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#9 From: "quicksilverdime" <quicksilverdime@...>
Date: Wed Dec 3, 2003 9:36 am
Subject: Constitutional Rights Enforcement & Support Team (C.R.E.S.T.)
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Dear Patriots,

     Had enough of your constitutional rights being violated?  Had
enough of police brutality? It's time to unite and take a stand
against tyranny.  We don't have to take it any more.  Legislation
isn't going to change things until the people are in power.  Gen.
Tommy Franks just said that our constitution would be put aside in
favor of a military government (dictatorship) in the event the US is
attacked by any kind of weapon of mass destruction. Just like 9/11
was a pretext to the war in Iraq so also will a WMD strike in the US
be a pretext to complete government control over the people.  Zero
rights, folks.  Your guns will be confiscated. No freedom of the
press or speech. No freedom to assemble. Nothing.  Martial Law will
be imposed.  Stay inside after curfew or get shot.  Have to bring in
the Blue Helmets (UN) though because all our forces, including our
National Guard will be fighting overseas. Yes, foreign troops will be
in control and there won't be a thing you can do about it because you
wouldn't have had any guns and you weren't organized and prepared for
that day. If we don't stand up now we won't be able to stand up then.
I have come up with a plan that will ensure that our constitutional
rights are respected and to stand up against all forms of tyranny and
governmental abuse. It's called the Constitutional Rights Enforcement
& Support Team (C.R.E.S.T.)  It will work and it will be a force to
be reckoned with but it is up to you to make it happen. Join today
and get in on the ground level. This isn't my group.  It is your
group. All decisions in the group are ultimately up to the members.
The members will nominate and elect 12 council members after the
first 500 members have joined and after one month so we will have
time to become aquainted with each other. The C.R.E.S.T. is still in
the developement stage your imput and our collective brainstorming
will evolve it into the most democratic force for good that this
country has ever seen. We will keep our constitutional rights and we
will get those back that have been stripped from us. You can join the
group by simply joining thecrest Yahoo group at
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/thecrest.  Let's unite and protect our
rights and one another.

Below is a description (more of a sketch) of the group.  If you agee
with the principle of it and want to be a part of it's developement,
join today.  Don't join if you are not serious about confronting the
thug enforcers of illegal laws with force of arms (weapons).

      The purpose of The Constitutional Rights Enforcement & Support
Team (CREST) is to unite American patriots and to force the usurpers
of our constitution to uphold and honor our constitutional rights.
You become an official member of the Constitutional Rights
Enforcement & Support Team 24 hours after joining the CREST Yahoo
group. This will give people time to look around and make a decision
of whether or not to join without obligating themselves.  If you do
not or at any time no longer wish to be be a member of the
Constitutional Rights Enforcement & Support Team you simply leave the
CREST Yahoo group and you are free from all obligations and the
C.R.E.S.T. is free from our obligation to defend you.   As long as
you are in the C.R.E.S.T. you are assumed to be pledged to support
other members with force of arms if their constitutional rights are
being violated after the C.R.E.S.T. reaches 50,000 members (not CREST
Yahoo group membership).   Spies and traitors will be treated as such
after our constitutional rights and liberties have been restored.
The council will have the right to boot out those they think are
troublemakers or just spectators. This is a team effort.  "All for
one and one for all" applies for members of this group. If your
constitutional rights are being violated the whole team will come to
your defense. Hopefully this team will become the largest team in the
United States and will be a key factor in eliminating tyranny and
restoring our constitution and liberty as our founding fathers
intended them to be. The C.R.E.S.T. will be to the usurpers of our
constitutional rights what the Neighboorhood Watch Program is to the
other more obvious criminals.  Hopefully every neighborhood will be
recruited into the C.R.E.S.T. and we will all come to each others aid
when our rights are being violated under the color of law. When the
usurpers see a whole neighboorhod with C.R.E.S.T. warning signs on
their property they will think twice about trying to take it away or
trying to force you to do or not do something that is against your
constitutional rights. The jails and prisons are full of people who
are there for just exercising their constitutional rights. We're
going to change that. In fact, we're going to reverse that. Judges,
politicians and law makers that are ignoring and taking away our
constitutional rights are hereby given notice that they are going to
jail for their treason.
The C.R.E.S.T. will rise up against police brutality and give the
police or the national guard a taste of their own medicine if they
tread on the civilian population and they will be given the same
measure that they dish out.  The team will be on stand by at every
protest and will defend protestors against police brutality whether
or not they are C.R.E.S.T. members.
      Many people who join this group will die, be wounded or jailed.
Some of you may be forced to shoot some constitutional rights
usurpers who were "just doing their job" and some of them will have
families. War has been declared on our constitution and we will
defend our rights. If you don't have the courage or stomach for it
please do not join the group. All we are doing now is recruiting. We
are the patriots.  We are not the terrorists.   Please don't conspire
and make threats in this group. We are not anti-government.  We are
anti-corruption in government and anti-tyrannists. We are only on the
defensive and will not go on the offensive unless attacked. We will
defend our constitution, which includes our rights, against all
enemies both foreign and domestic.  We have the right to keep and
bear arms and that doesn't mean wear sleeveless t-shirts.  We, the
people, can have any weapon that it takes to throw off tyranny.  Get
all the weapons you can and hide them. (Not on your property)  If
another country takes over America we may be able to get it back
again. If America turns into a military dictatorship we may be able
to take it back agaim.  Prepare to fight or prepare to have no
rights. We need to act now.  "The blue helmets are coming!  The blue
helmets are coming!"

If you haven't seen the documentary "Road to Tyranny" please do so
now and then you will know why we need the Constitutional Rights
Enforcement and Support Team.   http://911.mazesoftware.com

     Many are familiar with Rick Stanley's 2nd American Revolution
Militia Mutal Defense Pact. www.stanley2002.org. The CREST will be
pretty much the same in principle as his group but the organizational
and leadership structure will be different.   At the time I am
starting this group Rick is in Jail for exercising his 2nd ammendment
right to keep and bear arms. I believe his pact idea is a great one.
The C.R.E.S.T. will not be stopped unless everyone in it has been
jailed or taken out because if one council member is jailed or taken
out a new one will immediately be temporarily elected until the other
is free to assume his/her position again and there hopefully will be
some freeing going on.  Recruiting and plans will continue as usual.
The C.R.E.S.T is totally democratic but will have a council of 12
members to begin with who will investigate thoroughly and make the
decision of whether or not a team member's constitutional rights are
being violated and to call the rest of the team to his/her defense.
The council will be selected by nomination by group members and then
voting by the poll after team membership reaches 500.  The 12 shall
remain in office indefinitely unless they resign or have been proven
to be incompetent or otherwise unfit to to make correct decisions.
When the group reaches 1,000 members there will be another 12 council
members added for a total of 24 and another 12 for each additional
1,000 members until the team has a total of 72 council members.
There will be no defensive actions taken until we have 50,000
members, which is one thousand per state.  When a state reaches 2,000
members it will become active and have it's own council of 24 who
will make the decisions for that state.  Eventually each state will
have their own C.R.E.S.T. team with 72 council members yet each state
C.R.E.S.T. team wil be united with the others and will come to their
aid if extra enforcement is needed.   No one may be banned from the
group except by a poll 2/3 majority vote by the council. This council
decision may be overruled by way of a poll by the team members if the
poll vote is at least 2 to 1 in opposition to the decision of the
council.  The rights to freedom of the press and freedom of speech
and freedom to assemble are in force in this group. Posts will not be
filtered by a moderator before posting but please refrain from
flaming, slandering people or spam.  Please also do not post any
information regarding bomb making materials etc. on this site.  I
accept no responsibilities for any posts because I will not be
monitoring them at all times.
I will be the temporary monitor of the group but will abide by
council decisions.   As the group grows we will obviously need our
own website and regional (state) sites much like Indymedia.org.
   Please open another yahoo account and get another yahoo user ID for
this group so no one will know who you are except if you volunteer to
tell them through another message service.  We need to protect our
anonymity as our forefathers did. If you would like to use your own
identity please feel free to do so at your own risk.  Only the
council members will be given your real names and addresses and then
only after you have requested defensive support from the team. The
council members will need to know your email addresses in order to
contact you when a call to action is pending.
Each and every member is also an advisor and your imput and
suggestions are always welcome. Each member should also try to
organize in his community and as secretly as posssible so our Yahoo
group will just be the tip of the iceberg. You will be responsible
for finding leaders who will provide knowledge and training and plan
for the defensive action in your community. They must all abide by
council decisions and not act alone.  The main forces of the
C.R.E.S.T. will join your position as soon as possible if you or a
member in your neighborhood C.R.E.S.T. is being attacked or having
their rights violated. Your leaders, in coordination with other
neighborhood C.R.E.S.T. leaders, should be ready and able to lead and
direct as many members that arrive for your defence, which could be
thousands.

The C.R.E.S.T. is open to all true american patriots regardless of
sex, race, color, creed, religion or politcal party. There are no
dues and all offices are voluntary. The Forum is mainly for
communication between team members so please do not post more than
two separate news articles each per day. If you have more news put
links to them inside your message so as not to crowd the board.
      Nominate and elect your council wisely. This is your group and
the majority rules. I have faith in the American people to make the
right decisions. Let this group be a model of what America can be.
The C.R.E.S.T. is in the birth and experimental stage now and after a
council has been elected the council and team members have the right
to modify it in anyway that they determine would make it better
effective.
Long live America!  Long Live our Constitution!  Long live liberty!


Quicksilverdime


Give us Liberty or Die!

#10 From: David Nelson <stonewallshootingsportsutah@...>
Date: Mon Dec 29, 2003 4:01 am
Subject: WITCHVOX: Gun-Totin' Pagans
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Dec. 28, 2003

The Witches' Voice

Gun-Totin' Pagans

by David Nelson

The Witches' Voice published in 2002 a series of
"Pagan Protection Tips from Professionals." One such
commentary was written by the Rev. Tim "Nightbird"
Cranford, H.P., and titled "Better Safe Than
Sorry...."

[More] http://www.witchvox.com/protection/gtp_nelson.html

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Salt Lake City

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#11 From: David Nelson <stonewallshootingsportsutah@...>
Date: Tue Dec 30, 2003 10:37 am
Subject: DESERET: Gun-rights group touts new 'word'
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Dec. 29, 2003

Deseret Morning News

Gun-rights group touts new 'word'

By Dennis Romboy

A Utah gun-rights group has an eye out for
hoplophobes....

[More] http://deseretnews.com/dn/view/0,1249,575039935,00.html

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Salt Lake City

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#12 From: David Nelson <stonewallshootingsportsutah@...>
Date: Mon Jan 12, 2004 5:41 am
Subject: (qUT + 2A) x 45 = SSSU
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The 2004 Utah Legislature starts on Jan. 19 and there
are already plans to change the way we protect the
rights of gender- and sexual-minority Utahns and of
those of us who are firearms advocates and owners.

But we have our own plan to watch this 45-day process
unfold.

We'll keep our attention focused on those legislative
ideas that would disproportionately affect us ... and
share ways to help these ideas get adopted or
defeated.

This is gonna get fun!

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Salt Lake City

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#13 From: "goofybread" <goofybread@...>
Date: Sat Apr 24, 2004 5:14 pm
Subject: abortion
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I find it very disterbing that even though the militia movement is
there to fight oppression it does not do anything about the murder of
4000 unborn babies a day.

#14 From: "Brad" <b4d_80i@...>
Date: Mon May 17, 2004 3:44 am
Subject: Re: abortion
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The abortion subject is tricky. The Abortion subject forces us to re-
examen our principles as a society. When is someone "alive"? If it
is when the cells first start forming, some may argue that if you
extend rights to living cells then you must apply them to all living
cells (animal rights groups and the naturalists).

I belive that anyone "born" and then is killed must recieve justice.
The murderer must be prosicuted by law. However, I'm not entirly
sure of my personal opinion just yet on the subject... as I've yet
to determine for myself if eggs and sperm qualify as life as soon as
they are combined. At what stage of development does nature bring
forth what we can consider a child?

I understand your point and opinion, but as you can see... this
subject has much debate left in it.

I don't belive any baby should be killed at any stage, but I belive
life requires "thought"... I just don't know at what stage of
development thought occures.

I don't belive that it is disterbing that the milita movement is
focused on a wide range of topics and issues facing America today
opposed to devoting all its energy and resources (what there is of
it) to polar issue that may not be totaly resolved for another
decade. I do find it disterbing that people won't take time to think
about when life actualy starts, and when there is only a "chance" of
natural life.

Just my thoughts, anyway.

--- In American_Resistance@yahoogroups.com, "goofybread"
<goofybread@y...> wrote:
> I find it very disterbing that even though the militia movement is
> there to fight oppression it does not do anything about the murder
of
> 4000 unborn babies a day.

#15 From: David Nelson <stonewallshootingsportsutah@...>
Date: Wed Jun 16, 2004 4:01 am
Subject: More than 3,014 years of our history and words
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What do Aristotle, Susan B. Anthony and Kurt Cobain
have in common?

They're among more than 78 gender- and sexual-minority
celebrities who spoke out during the last 3,014 years
about arms including firearms and swords ... and now,
their words have been published by Stonewall Shooting
Sports of Utah owner David Nelson at the group's web
site http://www.StonewallShootingSportsUtah.org/. It's
the first time such an extensive collection of these
statements has been published.

SSSU is a group of gender- and sexual-minority firearm
advocates and owners in Utah, and supporters of the
Pink Pistols idea that was described nationally in
2000 by writer Jonathan Rauch for the legal, safe and
responsible use of firearms for self defense and
shooting-sport competition and recreation, including
those who are gay and lesbian, and that of their
families and friends. With more than 500 members, it's
also the largest such group worldwide.

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#16 From: "Brad" <b4d_80i@...>
Date: Thu Jun 17, 2004 3:34 am
Subject: Re: More than 3,014 years of our history and words
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Great post, goes to show you there are patriots in ALL communities,
groups, 'classes' or what have you.

I'm sorry this group hasn't seen much action for a long while (or
even at all) but this past year has been so straining. I'm not saying
that I'm not ready to act in manners prescribed by our founding
fathers in our nations time of need - freedom is all our
responsiblity and we must keep in mind no matter what our current
status or chore is - we must be able to drop what we are doing for
freedom (incase we are invaded by china or from internal sources...)

Cheers
--- In American_Resistance@yahoogroups.com, David Nelson
<stonewallshootingsportsutah@y...> wrote:
> What do Aristotle, Susan B. Anthony and Kurt Cobain
> have in common?
>
> They're among more than 78 gender- and sexual-minority
> celebrities who spoke out during the last 3,014 years
> about arms including firearms and swords ... and now,
> their words have been published by Stonewall Shooting
> Sports of Utah owner David Nelson at the group's web
> site http://www.StonewallShootingSportsUtah.org/. It's
> the first time such an extensive collection of these
> statements has been published.
>
> SSSU is a group of gender- and sexual-minority firearm
> advocates and owners in Utah, and supporters of the
> Pink Pistols idea that was described nationally in
> 2000 by writer Jonathan Rauch for the legal, safe and
> responsible use of firearms for self defense and
> shooting-sport competition and recreation, including
> those who are gay and lesbian, and that of their
> families and friends. With more than 500 members, it's
> also the largest such group worldwide.
>
> =====
> David Nelson
> http://www.StonewallShootingSportsUtah.org/
> Salt Lake City
>
>
>
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#17 From: Dennis Rhoads <goofybread@...>
Date: Tue Jun 22, 2004 11:24 pm
Subject: Re: Re: abortion
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Brad <b4d_80i@...> wrote:
The abortion subject is tricky. The Abortion subject forces us to re-
examen our principles as a society. When is someone "alive"? If it
is when the cells first start forming, some may argue that if you
extend rights to living cells then you must apply them to all living
cells (animal rights groups and the naturalists).

I belive that anyone "born" and then is killed must recieve justice.
The murderer must be prosicuted by law. However, I'm not entirly
sure of my personal opinion just yet on the subject... as I've yet
to determine for myself if eggs and sperm qualify as life as soon as
they are combined. At what stage of development does nature bring
forth what we can consider a child?

I understand your point and opinion, but as you can see... this
subject has much debate left in it.

I don't belive any baby should be killed at any stage, but I belive
life requires "thought"... I just don't know at what stage of
development thought occures.

I don't belive that it is disterbing that the milita movement is
focused on a wide range of topics and issues facing America today
opposed to devoting all its energy and resources (what there is of
it) to polar issue that may not be totaly resolved for another
decade. I do find it disterbing that people won't take time to think
about when life actualy starts, and when there is only a "chance" of
natural life.

Just my thoughts, anyway.

--- In American_Resistance@yahoogroups.com, "goofybread"
<goofybread@y...> wrote:
> I find it very disterbing that even though the militia movement is
> there to fight oppression it does not do anything about the murder
of
> 4000 unborn babies a day.


have looked up the devolopment of the unborn babies and I have found that in or near the first month they already have brain waves, muscle movement and a heartbeat. Being they are already people, I feel it is just as immoral not to protect them as anyone else. I have also learned that they have no pain reisters so they are suffering so much worse than we would realize.


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#18 From: "Brad" <b4d_80i@...>
Date: Mon Jul 19, 2004 4:03 pm
Subject: Re: abortion
b4d_80i
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I did not know that. Perhaps we as a socitity should work on birth
control or just disallow any form of abortion after the first say two
weeks or so? My problom is that its a moral and social issue... I
can't go and tell people to kill their child (because it IS THERE
child soon as there is concesness or movement.. its life) but I also
cannot say to a "might be mother" that "YOU MUST have this baby and
then put it up for adoption" .. you know what I mean? Of course life
takes precedence over the options that the mother may have... my
concern is when do we call it "life". Life is such a tricky subject..
because even plants have "life" to a degree (though I don't think
they have concouseness (at lest as we understand it)).

Going by what you wrote, I'd have to be anti-abortion (unless the
abortion took place perhaps within a week after). Its hard for me to
say when.. because I truly do not know. I do know that people should
start finding morality and stop having sexual relations without
marrage and what not... folks shouldn't be birthing anyone if they
can't take care of themselves.. ect ect ect ect.

GRRRR This subject irratates me because I try so hard not to think of
the life but I can't help but to. I try to ignore it but it leaves a
kind of heavyness on my chest when I try avoiding thinking of it. So
there must be a reason for that.. and I'll have to say that I would
need more study on the subject before I could possibly truly make up
my mind. It is better to have the right decission than to have one
that appears rigbht on the surfice. My above statment about abortion
after a week or (maybe even two) or so is only valid if the unborn
isn't really 'alive' yet... you know what I mean? And when I say
alive I don't mean living tisue, I mean spirit and pain...

Thats all for now.

--- In American_Resistance@yahoogroups.com, Dennis Rhoads
<goofybread@y...> wrote:
>
>
> Brad <b4d_80i@y...> wrote:The abortion subject is tricky. The
Abortion subject forces us to re-
> examen our principles as a society. When is someone "alive"? If it
> is when the cells first start forming, some may argue that if you
> extend rights to living cells then you must apply them to all
living
> cells (animal rights groups and the naturalists).
>
> I belive that anyone "born" and then is killed must recieve
justice.
> The murderer must be prosicuted by law. However, I'm not entirly
> sure of my personal opinion just yet on the subject... as I've yet
> to determine for myself if eggs and sperm qualify as life as soon
as
> they are combined. At what stage of development does nature bring
> forth what we can consider a child?
>
> I understand your point and opinion, but as you can see... this
> subject has much debate left in it.
>
> I don't belive any baby should be killed at any stage, but I belive
> life requires "thought"... I just don't know at what stage of
> development thought occures.
>
> I don't belive that it is disterbing that the milita movement is
> focused on a wide range of topics and issues facing America today
> opposed to devoting all its energy and resources (what there is of
> it) to polar issue that may not be totaly resolved for another
> decade. I do find it disterbing that people won't take time to
think
> about when life actualy starts, and when there is only a "chance"
of
> natural life.
>
> Just my thoughts, anyway.
>
> --- In American_Resistance@yahoogroups.com, "goofybread"
> <goofybread@y...> wrote:
> > I find it very disterbing that even though the militia movement
is
> > there to fight oppression it does not do anything about the
murder
> of
> > 4000 unborn babies a day.
>
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> have looked up the devolopment of the unborn babies and I have
found that in or near the first month they already have brain waves,
muscle movement and a heartbeat. Being they are already people, I
feel it is just as immoral not to protect them as anyone else. I have
also learned that they have no pain reisters so they are suffering so
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#19 From: Dennis Rhoads <goofybread@...>
Date: Mon Jul 19, 2004 8:03 pm
Subject: Re: Re: abortion
goofybread
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Brad <b4d_80i@...> wrote:
I did not know that. Perhaps we as a socitity should work on birth
control or just disallow any form of abortion after the first say two
weeks or so? My problom is that its a moral and social issue... I
can't go and tell people to kill their child (because it IS THERE
child soon as there is concesness or movement.. its life) but I also
cannot say to a "might be mother" that "YOU MUST have this baby and
then put it up for adoption" .. you know what I mean? Of course life
takes precedence over the options that the mother may have... my
concern is when do we call it "life". Life is such a tricky subject..
because even plants have "life" to a degree (though I don't think
they have concouseness (at lest as we understand it)).

Going by what you wrote, I'd have to be anti-abortion (unless the
abortion took place perhaps within a week after). Its hard for me to
say when.. because I truly do not know. I do know that people should
start finding morality and stop having sexual relations without
marrage and what not... folks shouldn't be birthing anyone if they
can't take care of themselves.. ect ect ect ect.

GRRRR This subject irratates me because I try so hard not to think of
the life but I can't help but to. I try to ignore it but it leaves a
kind of heavyness on my chest when I try avoiding thinking of it. So
there must be a reason for that.. and I'll have to say that I would
need more study on the subject before I could possibly truly make up
my mind. It is better to have the right decission than to have one
that appears rigbht on the surfice. My above statment about abortion
after a week or (maybe even two) or so is only valid if the unborn
isn't really 'alive' yet... you know what I mean? And when I say
alive I don't mean living tisue, I mean spirit and pain...

Thats all for now.

--- In American_Resistance@yahoogroups.com, Dennis Rhoads
<goofybread@y...> wrote:
>
>
> Brad <b4d_80i@y...> wrote:The abortion subject is tricky. The
Abortion subject forces us to re-
> examen our principles as a society. When is someone "alive"? If it
> is when the cells first start forming, some may argue that if you
> extend rights to living cells then you must apply them to all
living
> cells (animal rights groups and the naturalists).
>
> I belive that anyone "born" and then is killed must recieve
justice.
> The murderer must be prosicuted by law. However, I'm not entirly
> sure of my personal opinion just yet on the subject... as I've yet
> to determine for myself if eggs and sperm qualify as life as soon
as
> they are combined. At what stage of development does nature bring
> forth what we can consider a child?
>
> I understand your point and opinion, but as you can see... this
> subject has much debate left in it.
>
> I don't belive any baby should be killed at any stage, but I belive
> life requires "thought"... I just don't know at what stage of
> development thought occures.
>
> I don't belive that it is disterbing that the milita movement is
> focused on a wide range of topics and issues facing America today
> opposed to devoting all its energy and resources (what there is of
> it) to polar issue that may not be totaly resolved for another
> decade. I do find it disterbing that people won't take time to
think
> about when life actualy starts, and when there is only a "chance"
of
> natural life.
>
> Just my thoughts, anyway.
>
> --- In American_Resistance@yahoogroups.com, "goofybread"
> <goofybread@y...> wrote:
> > I find it very disterbing that even though the militia movement
is
> > there to fight oppression it does not do anything about the
murder
> of
> > 4000 unborn babies a day.
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#20 From: "goofybread" <goofybread@...>
Date: Wed Sep 1, 2004 9:43 pm
Subject: Doris Smith being starved to death.
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In the State of Louisiana they are letting Doris Smith starve to
death in spite of the fact that she did not know that saying she did
not want medical treatment meant no food and water.

I think we should call on the militia movement to protect her.

The courts have ignored her dautghter's pleading to save her.

#21 From: "Brad" <b4d_80i@...>
Date: Sun Sep 12, 2004 10:22 pm
Subject: Re: Doris Smith being starved to death.
b4d_80i
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I havent been online for a while, have you any updates on this? Is
DOris Smith Hospitalized or Imprisioned?

Medical Treatment as far as I know only included medical treatment
not the natural needs to sastane life... Seems our nation is going
nutz these days.

--- In American_Resistance@yahoogroups.com, "goofybread"
<goofybread@y...> wrote:
> In the State of Louisiana they are letting Doris Smith starve to
> death in spite of the fact that she did not know that saying she
did
> not want medical treatment meant no food and water.
>
> I think we should call on the militia movement to protect her.
>
> The courts have ignored her dautghter's pleading to save her.

#22 From: Dennis Rhoads <goofybread@...>
Date: Wed Sep 15, 2004 10:05 pm
Subject: Re: Re: Doris Smith being starved to death.
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I found it on a Focus on the Family e-mail newsletter. It refered my to www.lifenews.com. I have to type in Doris Smith to check for updates. The site has news about pro-life issues.

Brad <b4d_80i@...> wrote:
I havent been online for a while, have you any updates on this? Is
DOris Smith Hospitalized or Imprisioned?

Medical Treatment as far as I know only included medical treatment
not the natural needs to sastane life... Seems our nation is going
nutz these days.

--- In American_Resistance@yahoogroups.com, "goofybread"
<goofybread@y...> wrote:
> In the State of Louisiana they are letting Doris Smith starve to
> death in spite of the fact that she did not know that saying she
did
> not want medical treatment meant no food and water.
>
> I think we should call on the militia movement to protect her.
>
> The courts have ignored her dautghter's pleading to save her.



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#23 From: Dennis Rhoads <goofybread@...>
Date: Wed Sep 15, 2004 10:07 pm
Subject: Re: Re: Doris Smith being starved to death.
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I am sorry, I forgot to add, I do not recall anything saying she is hospitalized, but I would guess that is the case. I think some people need to move her to a safe location.

Brad <b4d_80i@...> wrote:
I havent been online for a while, have you any updates on this? Is
DOris Smith Hospitalized or Imprisioned?

Medical Treatment as far as I know only included medical treatment
not the natural needs to sastane life... Seems our nation is going
nutz these days.

--- In American_Resistance@yahoogroups.com, "goofybread"
<goofybread@y...> wrote:
> In the State of Louisiana they are letting Doris Smith starve to
> death in spite of the fact that she did not know that saying she
did
> not want medical treatment meant no food and water.
>
> I think we should call on the militia movement to protect her.
>
> The courts have ignored her dautghter's pleading to save her.



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#24 From: "Brad" <b4d_80i@...>
Date: Tue Sep 21, 2004 4:24 am
Subject: Re: Doris Smith being starved to death.
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I wish I could do somthing (other than pass the word around).

Currently I have no vehicle else I'd probably go on a road trip if I
had the means.

I fear however, that our Republic is falling rapidly to currupt
officers of the law and of course currupt government. I know many
police officers are good people (and many even patriots) but at the
same rate, it seems that they (whoever is teaching the officers(usaly
the state)) are pinning officers aginst the people.. in
effect 'brainwashing' the officers and such.

I've talked to so many people about our current state of affairs
(national state of affairs) and so many of them are fearfull of whats
happening to our nation, yet they fear acting because the result is
most likely imprisionment, death or at the very least... their name
they fear would become void of any honor (if honor is the right
word?).

I don't mean to sound so gloomy, I know some folks are standing up.

The Free State Project (FSP) I know appears to be heading in the
right direction, but I've even heard of talk that they are just a
collection of names for the feds to use in their lil-books (probably
unlikly, but then again september 11th 2001 was VERY unlikely .. yet
very sadly happened).

I guess I'll cut this post here. I'm starting to get depressed by my
own words... I know I cannot be the only individual feeling the
pressures of our modern world and politics.

Cheers,
Brad
--- In American_Resistance@yahoogroups.com, Dennis Rhoads
<goofybread@y...> wrote:
> I am sorry, I forgot to add, I do not recall anything saying she is
hospitalized, but I would guess that is the case. I think some people
need to move her to a safe location.
>
> Brad <b4d_80i@y...> wrote:I havent been online for a while, have
you any updates on this? Is
> DOris Smith Hospitalized or Imprisioned?
>
> Medical Treatment as far as I know only included medical treatment
> not the natural needs to sastane life... Seems our nation is going
> nutz these days.
>
> --- In American_Resistance@yahoogroups.com, "goofybread"
> <goofybread@y...> wrote:
> > In the State of Louisiana they are letting Doris Smith starve to
> > death in spite of the fact that she did not know that saying she
> did
> > not want medical treatment meant no food and water.
> >
> > I think we should call on the militia movement to protect her.
> >
> > The courts have ignored her dautghter's pleading to save her.
>
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#25 From: "Brad" <b4d_80i@...>
Date: Tue Sep 21, 2004 4:28 am
Subject: Re: Doris Smith being starved to death.
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AND I forgot to add, I can't seem to locate Doris Smith on the
website (which I bookmarked by the way). I'll try alternative
spellings .. maybe I'm not searching right (then again, I'm running
low on coffee LOL!).



--- In American_Resistance@yahoogroups.com, Dennis Rhoads
<goofybread@y...> wrote:
> I am sorry, I forgot to add, I do not recall anything saying she is
hospitalized, but I would guess that is the case. I think some people
need to move her to a safe location.
>
> Brad <b4d_80i@y...> wrote:I havent been online for a while, have
you any updates on this? Is
> DOris Smith Hospitalized or Imprisioned?
>
> Medical Treatment as far as I know only included medical treatment
> not the natural needs to sastane life... Seems our nation is going
> nutz these days.
>
> --- In American_Resistance@yahoogroups.com, "goofybread"
> <goofybread@y...> wrote:
> > In the State of Louisiana they are letting Doris Smith starve to
> > death in spite of the fact that she did not know that saying she
> did
> > not want medical treatment meant no food and water.
> >
> > I think we should call on the militia movement to protect her.
> >
> > The courts have ignored her dautghter's pleading to save her.
>
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#26 From: Dennis Rhoads <goofybread@...>
Date: Tue Sep 21, 2004 10:18 pm
Subject: Re: Re: Doris Smith being starved to death.
goofybread
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I see what you mean. If only the people wiht courage would get together.

Brad <b4d_80i@...> wrote:
I wish I could do somthing (other than pass the word around).

Currently I have no vehicle else I'd probably go on a road trip if I
had the means.

I fear however, that our Republic is falling rapidly to currupt
officers of the law and of course currupt government. I know many
police officers are good people (and many even patriots) but at the
same rate, it seems that they (whoever is teaching the officers(usaly
the state)) are pinning officers aginst the people.. in
effect 'brainwashing' the officers and such.

I've talked to so many people about our current state of affairs
(national state of affairs) and so many of them are fearfull of whats
happening to our nation, yet they fear acting because the result is
most likely imprisionment, death or at the very least... their name
they fear would become void of any honor (if honor is the right
word?).

I don't mean to sound so gloomy, I know some folks are standing up.

The Free State Project (FSP) I know appears to be heading in the
right direction, but I've even heard of talk that they are just a
collection of names for the feds to use in their lil-books (probably
unlikly, but then again september 11th 2001 was VERY unlikely .. yet
very sadly happened).

I guess I'll cut this post here. I'm starting to get depressed by my
own words... I know I cannot be the only individual feeling the
pressures of our modern world and politics.

Cheers,
Brad
--- In American_Resistance@yahoogroups.com, Dennis Rhoads
<goofybread@y...> wrote:
> I am sorry, I forgot to add, I do not recall anything saying she is
hospitalized, but I would guess that is the case. I think some people
need to move her to a safe location.
>
> Brad <b4d_80i@y...> wrote:I havent been online for a while, have
you any updates on this? Is
> DOris Smith Hospitalized or Imprisioned?
>
> Medical Treatment as far as I know only included medical treatment
> not the natural needs to sastane life... Seems our nation is going
> nutz these days.
>
> --- In American_Resistance@yahoogroups.com, "goofybread"
> <goofybread@y...> wrote:
> > In the State of Louisiana they are letting Doris Smith starve to
> > death in spite of the fact that she did not know that saying she
> did
> > not want medical treatment meant no food and water.
> >
> > I think we should call on the militia movement to protect her.
> >
> > The courts have ignored her dautghter's pleading to save her.
>
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#27 From: Dennis Rhoads <goofybread@...>
Date: Tue Sep 21, 2004 10:20 pm
Subject: Re: Re: Doris Smith being starved to death.
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Go to www.lifesitenews.com and look for a white box that will be towards the lower left. That is where you can type in Doris Smith.

Brad <b4d_80i@...> wrote:
AND I forgot to add, I can't seem to locate Doris Smith on the
website (which I bookmarked by the way). I'll try alternative
spellings .. maybe I'm not searching right (then again, I'm running
low on coffee LOL!).



--- In American_Resistance@yahoogroups.com, Dennis Rhoads
<goofybread@y...> wrote:
> I am sorry, I forgot to add, I do not recall anything saying she is
hospitalized, but I would guess that is the case. I think some people
need to move her to a safe location.
>
> Brad <b4d_80i@y...> wrote:I havent been online for a while, have
you any updates on this? Is
> DOris Smith Hospitalized or Imprisioned?
>
> Medical Treatment as far as I know only included medical treatment
> not the natural needs to sastane life... Seems our nation is going
> nutz these days.
>
> --- In American_Resistance@yahoogroups.com, "goofybread"
> <goofybread@y...> wrote:
> > In the State of Louisiana they are letting Doris Smith starve to
> > death in spite of the fact that she did not know that saying she
> did
> > not want medical treatment meant no food and water.
> >
> > I think we should call on the militia movement to protect her.
> >
> > The courts have ignored her dautghter's pleading to save her.
>
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#28 From: "David Nelson" <owner@...>
Date: Fri Oct 1, 2004 5:34 am
Subject: UT: Gun control pros and cons charge up 'Freedom Forum'
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Sept. 30, 2004

The Salt Lake Tribune

Gun control pros and cons charge up 'Freedom Forum'

No common ground: While proponents share stories of losing
loved ones, critics say Rocky Anderson's proposed ways to curb
firearm violence take away their rights

By Heather May

A discussion of gun violence and gun control elicited tears, angry
words and extra security Wednesday night....

[More] http://www.sltrib.com/utah/ci_2418138

#29 From: David Nelson <owner@...>
Date: Tue Nov 16, 2004 4:16 am
Subject: Help us rebuild
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Last month, our Stonewall Shooting Sports of Utah web site and forum was
disabled while its Internet-service provider upgraded its equipment. We
were able to republish our web site quickly, but our forum database of
more than 537 members and their messages was lost.

If you were a SSSU member or just a subscriber to our forum, please help
us rebuild its database by resubscribing or, if you never joined us
online, subscribing at:

http://www.StonewallShootingSportsUtah.org/

We're gender- and sexual-minority firearm advocates and owners in Utah,
and supporters of the Pink Pistols idea that was described nationally
in 2000 by writer Jonathan Rauch for the legal, safe and responsible
use of firearms for our self defense and shooting-sport competition and
recreation, including those of us who are gay and lesbian, and that of
our families and friends. We're also the largest such group worldwide.

Thank you.

David Nelson
Salt Lake City

#30 From: "Brad" <b4d_80i@...>
Date: Mon Nov 22, 2004 4:04 am
Subject: Re: Help us rebuild
b4d_80i
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Thank you for the message, I'll make sure to pass this information along.

Though I do not live in Utah I belive in the 2nd ammendment and I
belive a group for minorities is needed for our nation to gaurd aginst
tyranny expecialy when it comes to the 2nd amendment.

Yours in Liberty,
Brad

--- In American_Resistance@yahoogroups.com, David Nelson <owner@s...>
wrote:
> Last month, our Stonewall Shooting Sports of Utah web site and forum was
> disabled while its Internet-service provider upgraded its equipment. We
> were able to republish our web site quickly, but our forum database of
> more than 537 members and their messages was lost.
>
> If you were a SSSU member or just a subscriber to our forum, please help
> us rebuild its database by resubscribing or, if you never joined us
> online, subscribing at:
>
> http://www.StonewallShootingSportsUtah.org/
>
> We're gender- and sexual-minority firearm advocates and owners in Utah,
> and supporters of the Pink Pistols idea that was described nationally
> in 2000 by writer Jonathan Rauch for the legal, safe and responsible
> use of firearms for our self defense and shooting-sport competition and
> recreation, including those of us who are gay and lesbian, and that of
> our families and friends. We're also the largest such group worldwide.
>
> Thank you.
>
> David Nelson
> Salt Lake City

#31 From: "Brad" <b4d_80i@...>
Date: Mon Nov 22, 2004 4:12 am
Subject: Just a little note
b4d_80i
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In this new age we live, our freedoms are under attack by many
directions (left, right, centralist, and beyond).

I know this groups hasn't been the most active and it was due to time
restraints I've had.

Heres the "deal".

1_ The ARM site failed due to a large amount of work lost by the web
host (it was a free host and a pretty good one at that!). I didn't
have the time then to rebuild.

2_ Now that I have time I've been working on an Alternative
Information/ News Portal which will feature syndicated news and some
editorials. The site is now on line and can be found at
http://www.cemeterian.net/ - Its still in a new state and I'm trying
to get things really going there. I hope to integrate an information
exchange (Indy News/other) and the American Resistance Movement so
that we can foster conversation and perhaps get more folks involved by
presenting them whats going on in our world today (chiefly that which
is going on within our states).

Well, with that said, I have created an ARM board within the forum
section of the site. Please if you have any ideas post them. If you
would like to help out you are more than welcome to do so.

Yours in liberty,
Brad

#32 From: David Nelson <owner@...>
Date: Wed Dec 1, 2004 7:12 am
Subject: Free "Gun Facts" v4.0 released today!
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Here's an easy way to win every debate about firearms!

The newest edition of the popular eBook "Gun Facts" by California writer
Guy Smith was published today as version 4.0 with new and updated
information about the ban-free firearms era after the U.S. Assault
Weapons Ban expired in September.

As one of its research volunteers, I'm excited to tell you that the
full-color expanded 87-page eBook boasts more than 387 references and
29 graphs. It's free of charge and may be read, downloaded or printed
by visitors at Smith's web site at GunFacts.info, or at its direct link
which we've published at our website at:

http://www.StonewallShootingSportsUtah.org/

David Nelson
Stonewall Shooting Sports of Utah
Salt Lake City

#33 From: "Brad" <b4d_80i@...>
Date: Tue Dec 14, 2004 8:46 pm
Subject: Re: Free "Gun Facts" v4.0 released today!
b4d_80i
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Its deffinitly worth downloading the PDF of the Gun Facts; I wish I
had these facts from as early as the first version lol.

--- In American_Resistance@yahoogroups.com, David Nelson
<owner@s...> wrote:
> Here's an easy way to win every debate about firearms!
>
> The newest edition of the popular eBook "Gun Facts" by California
writer
> Guy Smith was published today as version 4.0 with new and updated
> information about the ban-free firearms era after the U.S. Assault
> Weapons Ban expired in September.
>
> As one of its research volunteers, I'm excited to tell you that the
> full-color expanded 87-page eBook boasts more than 387 references
and
> 29 graphs. It's free of charge and may be read, downloaded or
printed
> by visitors at Smith's web site at GunFacts.info, or at its direct
link
> which we've published at our website at:
>
> http://www.StonewallShootingSportsUtah.org/
>
> David Nelson
> Stonewall Shooting Sports of Utah
> Salt Lake City

#34 From: "dvd_morrell" <dvd_morrell@...>
Date: Mon Apr 11, 2005 10:41 pm
Subject: introducing myself
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Hello to all,my name is dave I'm over in central Idaho.

#35 From: David Nelson <owner@...>
Date: Fri May 20, 2005 7:30 am
Subject: UT: Despite ban, gays with guns to attend pride events
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DESPITE BAN, GAYS WITH GUNS TO ATTEND PRIDE EVENTS

SALT LAKE CITY -- With an expected attendance of almost 30,000 people,
the state's annual gay- and lesbian-pride events planned for June 8
through 12 will continue to be one of the largest outdoor events
organized in the capitol city. But, the leader of a group whose members
own and use legally concealed firearms, and attend the events said that
an events rule which would ban "weapons of any kind" is too broad,
unenforceable and shouldn't discourage the members from attending the
events with their firearms if they choose to do so.

Stonewall Shooting Sports of Utah founder and owner David Nelson said
that the rule, which was published in May is a departure from the 2003
and 2004 pride events when their organizers agreed that people with
legally concealed firearms could not be denied admission to the events
and adopted no such rules. Nelson said that his requests to the
organizers to revise the new rule remain unanswered.

"Previous organizers understood that people with Utah Concealed Firearm
Permits have met every federal and state legal requirement to choose
carrying legally concealed firearms, and welcomed us," Nelson said.
"There were no complaints at the 2003 and 2004 events. The previous
organizers didn't confuse the difference of legal and illegal
firearms."

"New organizers announced their plan to search all attendees and their
personal property, but I suspect their 30,000 searches would quickly
become impractical and a public-relations disaster," Nelson said. "The
organizers might discover some people with weapons -- weapons which
would be legal except when they're improperly concealed -- but the
organizers may do little more than invite law-enforcement officers to
intervene legally, which they're not obligated to do. The organizers
may not, however, deny admission to those people with legally concealed
firearms or confiscate the firearms."

Previous organizers invited Nelson in 2003 to debate transgender
University of Utah Professor Barbara Nash, who also serves as the
founder of Gun Violence Prevention Campaign-Center of Utah, about the
idea of firearms for self defense.

"Both Professor Nash and I have been issued state concealed-firearm
permits," Nelson said. "While I don't know if she carried her legally
concealed firearm when we debated, I suspect she'd agree with me that
no one who has met every legal requirement including daily FBI
criminal-history investigations should be arbitrarily denied the legal,
responsible and safe exercise of our human right to defend ourselves if
we choose and need to do so."

Seven of the eight announced pride events are planned for the Salt Lake
City Public Library, Library and Washington squares, and the
surrounding city streets and sidewalks -- all government properties.
Because only one of the events is planned for church property, Nelson
described most of the events as public accommodations on public
properties where legally concealed firearms are permitted.

"State laws are very clear about who, what, when, where, why and how
legally concealed firearms may be prohibited," Nelson said. "In almost
every instance, the organizers fail the legal requirements that would
let them ban our firearms. Law-enforcement officers are, in fact,
prohibited from enforcing those local laws and rules that are
inconsistent with state firearms laws. If our hard-earned state permits
don't protect our Second Amendment rights in the public square -- this
city public square, they do no good."

A similar weapons ban was attempted in 2003 by pride-events organizers
in Columbus, Ohio. Law-enforcement officers who responded to the call
for assistance from events organizers instead protected the right of 12
attendees with legally carried firearms and warned the organizers that
their attempts to confiscate the firearms could be considered a federal
felony theft of firearms.

"As we did in 2003 and 2004, our members wish simply to attend and enjoy
one of the state's big events without complaint and without leaving one
of our constitutional rights at the festival gates," Nelson said. "It's
ironic that the celebration of a day which is set aside to renew the
call for equal rights is threatened with one of them being denied.
Banning legally concealed firearms isn't yet the easiest thing to do,
but I wonder if those who wish to do so would also assume the legal and
financial guarantee to protect everyone."

SSSU is a group of gender- and sexual-minority firearms advocates and
owners in the state, and supporters of the Pink Pistols idea that was
described nationally in 2000 by writer Jonathan Rauch for the legal,
responsible and safe use of firearms for their self defense and
shooting-sport competition and recreation, including those who are gay
and lesbian, and that of their families and friends. With hundreds of
members, they're also the largest such group worldwide.

David Nelson
http://www.StonewallShootingSportsUtah.org/
Salt Lake City

#36 From: David Nelson <owner@...>
Date: Sat May 28, 2005 3:19 am
Subject: UT: Utah Pride drops ban, welcomes gays with guns
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DATE: May 27, 2005

RELEASE: Immediately

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UTAH PRIDE DROPS BAN, WELCOMES GAYS WITH GUNS

SALT LAKE CITY -- A week after the leader of a gay firearms group
challenged a controversial policy from organizers of the state's annual
gay- and lesbian-pride events which would have banned legally concealed
firearms from most of the events, GLBT Community Center of Utah Inc.
Executive Director Valerie Larabee, who is also a lifelong shooter,
said on May 27 that organizers will instead welcome people who choose
to take their legal firearms and instead prohibit only those who
violate laws.

Stonewall Shooting Sports of Utah founder and owner David Nelson said
that the change is an encouraging reiteration of the 2003 and 2004
pride-events rules when organizers agreed that people with legally
concealed firearms could not be denied admission to the events.
Nelson's challenge of the policy which led to the change won the
attention of state and national news media including 365Gay.com,
Alphecca.com, Connexion.org, DaveKopel.org, DeanEsmay.com,
Feeds4All.com, FortPride.org, Free-Press-Release.com, Funender.com,
GayGuideToronto.com, GayLinkContent.com, GayMonkey.com, GayWired.com,
HellInAHandbasket.net, JohnRLott.com, KCPW Radio, LatinoGLO.com,
LesbiaNation.com, LostTarget.com, PeskyApostrophe.com, RobThurman.com,
UtahConcealedCarry.com, UtahIndependent.com, WisconsinGayNews.com and
The Michelangelo Signorile Show on OutQ Sirius Satellite Radio among
others.

"Despite an unnecessarily bad start to the upcoming events, the
organizers understand now that people with Utah Concealed Firearm
Permits aren't the disruptive or illegal parts of their events," Nelson
said. "No one who has met every legal requirement including daily FBI
criminal-history investigations should be arbitrarily denied the legal,
responsible and safe exercise of our human right to defend ourselves if
we choose and need to do so."

Seven of the eight announced pride events are planned for the Salt Lake
City Public Library, Library and Washington squares, and the
surrounding city streets and sidewalks -- all government properties.
Because only one of the events is planned for church property, Nelson
described most of the events as public accommodations on public
properties where legally concealed firearms are permitted.

"State laws are very clear about who, what, when, where, why and how
legally concealed firearms may be prohibited," Nelson said. "As we did
in 2003 and 2004, our members will simply attend and enjoy one of the
state's biggest outdoor events without complaint and without leaving
one of our constitutional rights at the festival gates."

SSSU is a group of gender- and sexual-minority firearms advocates and
owners in the state, and supporters of the Pink Pistols idea that was
described nationally in 2000 by writer Jonathan Rauch for the legal,
responsible and safe use of firearms for their self defense and
shooting-sport competition and recreation, including those who are gay
and lesbian, and that of their families and friends. With hundreds of
members, they're also the largest such group worldwide.

ALSO: http://michaelaaron.com/sssu/viewtopic.php?p=491#491

END

#41 From: "Brad" <b4d_80i@...>
Date: Tue Oct 18, 2005 12:18 am
Subject: New Anti-Gun Control Law Set for Alaska
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MATT VOLZ
Mon, Oct 17, 2005

JUNEAU, Alaska -- Starting Wednesday, handgun owners won't need
permits to carry concealed weapons in the seven Alaska cities where
they're still required. There also will be no more restrictions on
keeping a firearm in a vehicle.

A new state anti-gun control law that goes into effect will
essentially bar municipalities from passing gun laws that are more
restrictive than state law.

The National Rifle Association, which helped Republican state Rep.
Mike Chenault write the legislation, says except for the concealed
weapon permit requirements, most Alaska city and state gun laws are
the same.

What the NRA wants to do is prevent cities from passing more
restrictive laws in the future. It calls it state pre-emption, and
Alaska will be the 44th state to have such a law on its books.

"We are looking to make it uniform to all 50 states," said NRA
spokeswoman Kelly Hobbs. "Without it, it creates an unfair,
inconsistent and confusing patchwork of local firearm ordinances."

But Alaska police chiefs worry about no longer being able to enforce
laws banning guns from public buildings, such as city halls.

The new law would allow cities to keep guns out of places beyond a
restricted access point, such as a metal detector, but the chiefs say
their cities can't afford the staff or equipment.

"There are lots of people, myself included, we really value our
constitutional rights," said Anchorage Police Chief Walter Monegan.
"But if we had the same enthusiasm to also support our constitutional
responsibilities, then I would be less concerned over this issue."

Chenault argues that even though state law now does not specifically
prohibit weapons in municipal buildings, it does prohibit them in
state buildings, so a municipal law wouldn't be considered more
restrictive. He acknowledged, however, that it may take a court
challenge to see if he's right.

http://www.spheresector.com/page.php?id=21

#42 From: "Brad" <b4d_80i@...>
Date: Sun Oct 23, 2005 7:40 pm
Subject: Bilderberger Admits Influence On World Decisions
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Bilderberger Admits Influence On World Decisions
By: James P. Tucker Jr.
Sun, Oct 23, 2005

More and more European news outlets are bucking the ban on exposing
the shadowy globalist group known as Bilderberg and reporting in depth
on this secret gathering of kingmakers and power elites.

While Bilderberg's top man insists that it is just a good old boys
club, another Bilderberg participant readily admits it holds influence
in global decisionmaking, BBC News reports from London.

"Will Hutton, an economic analyst and former newspaper editor who
attended a Bilderberg meeting in 1997, says people take part in these
networks in order to influence the way the world works, to create what
he calls `the international common sense' about policy," BBC said.

"On every issue that might influence your business you will hear first
hand the people who are actually making those decisions and you will
play a part in helping them make those decisions and formulating the
common sense," BBC quotes Hutton.

"And that `common sense' is one which supports the interests of
Bilderberg's main participants—in particular free trade," BBC told
listeners, who number in the millions.

"Viscount Davignon says that at the annual meetings, `automatically
around the table you have internationalists'—people who support the
work of the World Trade Organization, transatlantic cooperation and
European integration."

Viscount Etienne Davignon, 73, is chairman of Bilderberg and a former
European commissioner. Today, Davignon is a wealthy banker and is
known as the public face behind the unification of Europe under one
currency, the euro.

BBC's Bill Hayton interviewed him at his office in Brussels. Hayton
correctly called it an "extremely rare interview."

"I don't think [we are] a global ruling class because I don't think a
global ruling class exists," Davignon told BBC listeners. "I simply
think it's people who have influence interested to speak to other
people who have influence."

Davignon said "business influences society and politics influences
society—that's purely common sense. It's not that business contests
the right of democratically elected leaders to lead."

"For Bilderberg critics the fact that there is almost no publicity
about the annual meetings is proof they are up to no good," BBC's
Hayton said on air. "Jim Tucker, [senior] editor of . . . American
Free Press, for example, alleges they organize wars and elect and
depose political leaders. He describes the group as simply `evil.' So
where does the truth lie?"

Bilderberg meetings "often feature future political leaders shortly
before they become household names," Hayton said. "Bill Clinton went
in 1991, while still governor of Arkansas. Tony Blair was there two
years later while still an
opposition member of Parliament. All the recent presidents of the
European Commission attended Bilderberg meetings before they were
appointed."

BBC did not mention that Blair also attended in 1998 as prime minister.

NO ACCIDENT

Davignon explained that Bilderberg's steering committee "does its best
assessment of who are the bright new boys or girls in the beginning
phase of their career who would like to get known. . . . It's not a
total accident."

"Professor Kees van der Piji of Sussex University in Britain says such
private networks of corporate and political leaders play an informal
but crucial role in the modern world," Hayton said. He quotes the
professor:

" `There need to be places where these people can think about the main
challenges ahead, coordinate where policies should be going, and find
out where there could be a consensus.' "

This benign image of Bilderberg, however, denies reality. A simple
glance at the secret roster of attendees shows it is composed of the
wealthy elites, who are all seeking similar goals—increasing their
power and profits, while turning the rest of us into serfs on the
global plantation.

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