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#3929 From: AwakeningInChrist-owner@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sat Apr 28, 2012 11:23 am
Subject: Weekend Retreat with Messengers of Peace 18th-20th May
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Dear Friends,

We welcome you to join us for a weekend retreat at HeartSpace, in Australia. Please see the flyer below for details or click here   if you can not view the image.

See you there!
Love and Blessings xo



#3932 From: "JasonW" <jasonjwarwick@...>
Date: Thu May 3, 2012 12:09 am
Subject: Links that work For Quantum
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Hello Everyone,
         We have a Quantum Awakening Module in our Mystical Mind Training Program that I really enjoyed. It is our most intellectual module but really highlights how Quantum Physics is pointing to the fact that the observer and observed are one. It can really be used to lead to the experience. If you ever want to learn the basics of this Quantum stuff so you can use the ideas to strengthen the ideas of non duality in your mind, then you will enjoy this. It is a 3 part series but today I will post part 1. Let me know if you enjoy it and I will continue posting. You can click the arrows at the bottom of the page to move to the next page.

           Love Jason ( and JP)

P.S. For the full effect you may want to rent "What the bleep down the rabbit hole" but it is not necessary.

http://www.mysticalmindtraining.org/quantum/whatisquantum.html

http://www.mysticalmindtraining.org/quantum/everythingreversed.html

http://www.mysticalmindtraining.org/quantum/superpositioning.html

http://www.mysticalmindtraining.org/quantum/quantumawakening.html

#3933 From: "David" <mysticspiritone@...>
Date: Fri May 4, 2012 1:16 am
Subject: This week: California here we come!
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Beloved One,

Blessings of Love!

Below is an invitation video clip our friend Justin posted on Youtube earlier today.  We are thrilled to be coming back out to California on a spontaneous visit.

First we booked our airline tickets for California.  Then I put out some posts on Facebook and sent some messages.  And in the last few days the gatherings and visits and holy encounters began to unfold over the phone and via email as we watched our 10 day California trip take shape.

Lisa and I will visit friends and stay wherever we are hosted, and share at least 4 gatherings (3 in the LA, California area and 1 or more in Northern California in Fairfield and possibly in the greater Bay area).  We love this!

http://youtu.be/EDKc9N9dq0E   (Youtube video)

Within the week Lisa Fair and I will be in Studio City May 5, Burbank May 6, Irvine May 8, and later in Northern California in Fairfield May 12.  For more info visit our Coming Events page at: http://www.livingmiraclescenter.org/en/events.html 

We will visit our friends Jo-Ellen, Patrice, Jean, George, Robin, Jennifer, Stu, Loraine, V, Ann, Russ, Dan, Erik, and many more that we meet along the way!

Hope to see you along the way!!!

Love you, ~David & Lisa


#3936 From: "David" <mysticspiritone@...>
Date: Tue May 8, 2012 4:02 pm
Subject: Flyer links with correct start time for tonights's Irvine event
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#3938 From: "Living Miracle Monastery" <sslovetoyou@...>
Date: Thu May 10, 2012 8:56 pm
Subject: Free Tele-Class with David on June 14th
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Dear Friends,

On June 14th,  6pm Pacific  7pm Mountain  9pm Eastern,  there is another opportunity to listen in to a free tele-class with David Hoffmeister.  The tele-class offers profound support in living a life of peace and joy at no cost to you. It's the Living A Course in Miracles series hosted by our friend Jennifer Hadley.

You can check her out by watching this video.  Jennifer expresses her deep commitment to living A Course in Miracles from moment to moment in her busy life as an active minister, Science of Mind practitioner and spiritual counselor from the Agape community.  

Click to register and accept the gift!  

This series offer clear, practical support you can use to dig into the places in life where you're not aligned with love, where you've been confused and challenged.  Jennifer has gathered some of the warmest and wisest teachers for this tele-seminar series, so you can learn how they actually live the teachings of A Course in Miracles.

On June 14th, David will be talking about successful spiritual practice - 1% principle & 99% practice. As the series unfolds, you will also hear about:
  • Choosing Love
  • Life, Death & the Illusion
  • Money and Forgiveness
  • Hearing the Holy Spirit
  • Walking the Talk in your family
  • Forgiveness and Relationship
Join us to receive the support you've always wanted.... as our guest! 


Blessings of Love,

We hope you can participate! :x

#3939 From: "Living Miracle Monastery" <sslovetoyou@...>
Date: Fri May 11, 2012 7:04 pm
Subject: Strawberry Fields Forever - Music Festival and Retreat, July 27 - August 2 2012
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Hello EveryOne

Enjoy our new invitation video to our fun festival this summer: http://youtu.be/bckeZYRFIEk 

Come celebrate summer fun in the beautiful canyons of Duchesne, Utah, where we are holding a week-long music festival and retreat at Living Miracles Monastery. Over 20 of our artist friends will be sharing their profound music with us! In addition to the live music, there will be skits, expression sessions, movie gatherings, a trust walk, bonfires, the Miracles Cafe, inspirational gatherings with David, meditations, and jam sessions! We would love to have you join us for seven days of festivities. Bring your tent, rent a cabin, or stay in the bunk house! Schedule updates will be posted on http://livingmiraclesmonastery.org . Contact: Leila Dawn leila@...



Blessings of Love

#3940 From: "JasonW" <jasonjwarwick@...>
Date: Sat May 12, 2012 6:00 am
Subject: Quantum Post 2
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#3941 From: "JasonW" <jasonjwarwick@...>
Date: Mon May 14, 2012 11:04 am
Subject: Quantum 3
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#3942 From: "Lisa Fair" <nowiamfree111@...>
Date: Mon May 14, 2012 8:37 pm
Subject: Live Streaming with Lisa Fair Tuesday 10 am MST time
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Greetings Everyone!

  Wow! What a trip. I just got back from sunny  California and it was a glorious God ride. I am in a state of such gratitude for the living experience of observing and watching and it is miraculous ride indeed. I was going to write a huge long post like the China post, but instead have been inspired to share a live streaming show tomorrow morning live from Kamas UT. YAY!!

 The expression vibe is bubbling and I just feel I need a space to share all the miracles and healing that occur daily here in our lives. And lets not forget Oh my Love for God needs to be expressed :).  All glory to God that we have a TV set right here in Kamas ready to shoot some great material, straight from the Holy Spirit. I will give updates on the happenings here and around the world and talk about the healing and also do my own healing as I continue to teach what I need to learn. What a Blessing!!

 So tomorrow morning I will start the show at 10 am and see what happens, I also feel to spontaneously announce when I am guided to share a live stream on an ongoing basis. I will give a 24 hour notice for you to tune into. And if you miss it we will have it available on our living miracles TV channel and our website at www.livingmiraclestv.org  it will be listed under the shows section. If you are tuning in live, go to our website and check out the live stream area and enjoy the show.

Lots of Love!!

Lisa Fair

#3943 From: "Jenny" <jenny@...>
Date: Wed May 16, 2012 5:44 pm
Subject: Dealing with the desire for relationship
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Hi Jenny,

I am in the midst of a painful, hopefully, worrisome, fantasy filled, school girl crush.  It's really quite awful sprinkled with moments of bliss.  I can't think this is the Holy Spirit's work, what with the pain factor but I can't seem to give it up either.  I am just on the section about Trust and I see that I do not - like not at all - trust the Holy Spirit to bring me blissful earth love.  I am afraid the Holy Spirit's version of a correct mate will be like letting your dad choose a guy for you; someone with whom there is no spark, no attraction.  Essentially a man like most I have dared to date over the years! 

On top of the pain of crushing on someone who appears largely disinterested in me I have the guilt of wanting earth love.  I want to want just and only a relationship with God but the truth is I WANT MAN LOVE !!!!  And I cannot imagine a time that I won't.

At this moment I would like to relax and stop obsessing over this man, stop firing emails off at him, stop TRYING to create a relationship.  But I'm afraid to turn it over to the Holy Spirit.  I'm afraid He'll have different priorities than mine and that He'll drop the ball.  I know the Course says that God is aware of my preferences and my perceived needs but I don't trust Him to deliver the goods.  Again I am viewing God as the parent who won't give me a treat because to do without it, to sacrifice, is for my own good.  Blick!  Down with for my own good!

So dear Jenny I just needed to vent.  I know you will tell me to turn my worries and my crush over to the Holy Spirit and to trust that I will receive my heart's desire. I'm just unhappy to think that my "true" heart's desire may be something dull and dry and boring.  Another effing Jeff who wants to sit around watching televised sports, overeating and telling old over-told stories and using old over-said cliches.  Aaarrggghhhhhh !!!! 

Love,
Brenda

~♥~

Answer 1 (short as I just woke up):

Thanks for sharing Brenda! You're funny:
"I am afraid the Holy Spirit's version of a correct mate will be like letting your dad choose a guy for you."

Maybe you need to approach him and see if he really isn't interested like you thought. You can practice just watching your mind and have your One relationship with Holy Spirit present as you do this..

Let me know how it goes..

Love you!!!!!

Answer 2, (later, after my morning prayers):

I think a way to let go of this crush is to know that God has something better for you. It will probably become VERY obvious when and with whom you are going to enter into a relationship with. If you had a beautiful, heart opening experience that seemed to involve this man, great and beautiful, but the practice then is to let go of the form, and the fantasies of trying to hold on to it. YOU HAVE ALL LOVE ALREADY AND YOU ARE IT!!! I have had to go through this too, and the faster you are able to let go of the wishing the easier it gets. You just accept your own worthiness and let the Holy Spirit extend through you EVERYWHERE...

This is an alternative to what I wrote in my earlier e-mail. ; )
I Love You!
Jenny

~♥~

I like both bits of advice!  I will approach and see what happens and try very hard to let go if he is not interested.

~♥~

Then Brenda and I had some communication via sms and Skype chat. She had expressed her longing for sex, cuddling, physical intimacy, "giggling under the covers," and feeling deprived of these things. I also had told her to invite the Prince of Peace (Holy Spirit) instead of waiting for a man of flesh and bones.. She didn't think the Prince would be able to be as satisfactory as a physical form.

~♥~

Hi Jenny,

Wow, what a trip a crush is!  Really it rather sucked all round from the unfulfilled longing up front to the disappointment once I realized the real man was not the man I'd dreamed up. 

I want to know how the Prince of Peace can replace and even exceed the joys of earth love.  I know those joys are temporary but they are so intense at some moments.  I can't imagine it getting more relaxing than an earth nap with someone who loves me and who I love.  Someday soon you will tell me about the thing I have to look forward to.  Or maybe someday soon I will see for myself.

Love,
Brenda

~♥~

I shared the link to this helpful relationship talk with David and Ann West:

http://www.spreaker.com/user/truthfromthesource/david_hoffmeister_soul_relationships .

~♥~

Hi Jenny,

First, thanks for sending that relationships talk it was really great.  Second, I am... I don't know what... not effervescent?  I am pissed off at being out of a relationship and at not hearing the Holy Spirit!  I know it'll pass but I keep wanting to reach out to you though I have nothing really to say and I know there's not much you can say beyond 'hang in there'.  Anyway... grrr.

Love you,
Brenda

~♥~

So now, Brenda and I joined on Skype chat tonight.. emotions were expressed, quite strong and direct. It doesn't always look or feel pretty, but it is so helpful to not protect the feelings, but truly see them by allowing them up in awareness
exposing them. I gave the advice to go within, to give over the wanting to the Holy Spirit by going deeper with it.. go underneath. In a quiet restful space to sink in and let go.

There is a promise that even our unreal needs will be met when allowing the Spirit to lead us. That is why there can't even be a perceived sacrifice. I think the belief in sacrifice was reflected in Brenda's idea that the Holy Spirit would be like her "dad," the common fear that surely what the Holy Spirit wants for you is not what you would want..
Of course the Holy Spirit isn't truly apart from us as the mind thinks in its deceived state.

And here.. the Course's answer to the longing, the wanting, and the boosted "gift" of special love. Thank you for reading!:x

Love,
Jenny


First a quote about how pleasure is actually pain, since it equates you with being a body, and how you, when listening to the ego, think pleasure is happiness. Feel free to continue the reading in the Course; The Second Obstacle to Peace, The Belief the Body is Valuable for What It Offers:

It is impossible to seek for pleasure through the body and not find pain. It is essential that this relationship be understood, for it is one the ego sees as proof of sin. It is not really punitive at all. It is but the inevitable result of equating yourself with the body, which is the invitation to pain. For it invites fear to enter and become your purpose. The attraction of guilt must enter with it, and whatever fear directs the body to do is therefore painful. It will share the pain of all illusions, and the illusion of pleasure will be the same as pain.
 Is not this inevitable? Under fear's orders the body will pursue guilt, serving its master whose attraction to guilt maintains the whole illusion of its existence. This, then, is the attraction of pain. Ruled by this perception the body becomes the servant of pain, seeking it dutifully and obeying the idea that pain is pleasure. It is this idea that underlies all of the ego's heavy investment in the body. And it is this insane relationship that it keeps hidden, and yet feeds upon. To you it teaches that the body's pleasure is happiness. Yet to itself it whispers, "It is death."
(T-19.IV.B.13)


And here is one about your Worthiness of Being Peace, Having It Within, and how anything less than accepting this would be sacrifice:

It is not sacrifice to wake to glory. But it is sacrifice to accept anything less than glory. Learn that you must be worthy of the Prince of Peace, born in you in honor of Him Whose host you are. You know not what love means because you have sought to purchase it with little gifts, thus valuing it too little to understand its magnitude. Love is not little and love dwells in you, for you are host to Him. Before the greatness that lives in you, your poor appreciation of yourself and all the little offerings you give slip into nothingness. Holy child of God, when will you learn that only holiness can content you and give you peace? (T-15.III.8)


And a quote about Love is not form (=Love can't come from a man or a woman, since they are just an image, a projection of belief):

Whenever any form of special relationship tempts you to seek for love in ritual, remember love is content, and not form of any kind. The special relationship is a ritual of form, aimed at raising the form to take the place of God at the expense of content. There is no meaning in the form, and there will never be. The special relationship must be recognized for what it is; a senseless ritual in which strength is extracted from the death of God, and invested in His killer as the sign that form has triumphed over content, and love has lost its meaning. Would you want this to be possible, even apart from its evident impossibility? If it were possible, you would have made yourself helpless. God is not angry. He merely could not let this happen. You cannot change His Mind. (T-16.V.12)


Read this if you ever look to "some body," or what you used in the past, to fulfill unreal needs:

The past is the ego's chief learning device, for it is in the past that you learned to define your own needs and acquired methods for meeting them on your own terms. We have said that to limit love to part of the Sonship is to bring guilt into your relationships, and thus make them unreal. If you seek to separate out certain aspects of the totality and look to them to meet your imagined needs, you are attempting to use separation to save you. How, then, could guilt not enter? For separation is the source of guilt, and to appeal to it for salvation is to believe you are alone. (T-15.V.2)

If you seek for satisfaction in gratifying your needs as you perceive them, you must believe that strength comes from another, and what you gain he loses. Someone must always lose if you perceive yourself as weak. Yet there is another interpretation of relationships that transcends the concept of loss of power completely. (T-15.VI.3)

No needs will long be left unmet if you leave them all to Him Whose function is to meet them. That is His function, and not yours. He will not meet them secretly, for He would share everything you give through Him. That is why He gives it. What you give through Him is for the whole Sonship, not for part of it. Leave Him His function, for He will fulfill it if you but ask Him to enter your relationships, and bless them for you. (T-16.I.7)


And in Fact, you have only one need:

Needs arise only when you deprive yourself. You act according to the particular order of needs you establish. This, in turn, depends on your perception of what you are. A sense of separation from God is the only lack you really need correct. (T-1.VI.1-2)


And.. the promise your foolish needs will be met if you let Him teach you how:

Foolish requests are foolish merely because they conflict, since they always contain some element of specialness. Only the Holy Spirit recognizes foolish needs as well as real ones. And He will teach you how to meet both without losing either.


When the goal is to "get":

You must have noticed an outstanding characteristic of every end that the ego has accepted as its own. When you have achieved it, it has not satisfied you. (T-8.VII.2)


And I always found this line interesting to ponder:

Your part is only to remember this; you do not want anything you value to come of a relationship. (T-16.I.3)


And maybe you didn't really know THIS about your searching:

It is not form you seek. What form can be a substitute for God the Father's Love? What form can take the place of all the love in the Divinity of God the Son? What idol can make two of what is one? And can the limitless be limited? You do not want an idol. It is not your will to have one. It will not bestow on you the gift you seek. When you decide upon the form of what you want, you lose the understanding of its purpose. (T-30.III.2)


Something that can seem to have a (very) temporary value, has in fact, NO value:

Another kindly and related law is that there is no compromise in what your choice must bring. It cannot give you just a little, for there is no in between. Each choice you make brings everything to you or nothing. Therefore, if you learn the tests by which you can distinguish everything from nothing, you will make the better choice.
First, if you choose a thing that will not last forever, what you chose is valueless. A temporary value is without all value. Time can never take away a value that is real. What fades and dies was never there, and makes no offering to him who chooses it. He is deceived by nothing in a form he thinks he likes.
(W-133.5-6)


And here is a section from The Song of Prayer which talks about what happens when joining with someone in asking for illusion (specifics). This feels like very important Information to me, and makes it easy to let go of specialness:

Even the joining, then, is not enough, if those who pray together do not ask, before all else, what is the Will of God. From this Cause only can the answer come in which are all specifics satisfied; all separate wishes unified in one. Prayer for specifics always asks to have the past repeated in some way. What was enjoyed before, or seemed to be; what was another's and he seemed to love,–all these are but illusions from the past. The aim of prayer is to release the present from its chains of past illusions; to let it be a freely chosen remedy from every choice that stood for a mistake. What prayer can offer now so far exceeds all that you asked before that it is pitiful to be content with less.


More wisdom from The Song of Prayer on how it's always guilt underneath a prayer of need:

It is possible at this level to continue to ask for things of this world in various forms, and it is also possible to ask for gifts such as honesty or goodness, and particularly for forgiveness for the many sources of guilt that inevitably underlie any prayer of need. Without guilt there is no scarcity. The sinless have no needs.


Now I feel to end this e-mail with this beautiful lesson and prayer..

LESSON 251.

I am in need of nothing but the truth.

I sought for many things, and found despair. Now do I seek but one, for in that one is all I need, and only what I need. All that I sought before I needed not, and did not even want. My only need I did not recognize. But now I see that I need only truth. In that all needs are satisfied, all cravings end, all hopes are finally fulfilled and dreams are gone. Now have I everything that I could need. Now have I everything that I could want. And now at last I find myself at peace.

 And for that peace, our Father, we give thanks. What we denied ourselves You have restored, and only that is what we really want.


I Love You!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!




#3945 From: "Jenny" <jenny@...>
Date: Fri May 18, 2012 7:56 pm
Subject: Re: Dealing with the desire for relationship
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Hi Jenny,
I just read your post on relationships and it was fantastic.. ...I printed it out so I can read it over and over again.  Can this same desire be equated
with a particular job as well?  Does one just wait for a job to come to them or is it appropriate to go and find one?  I ask this because I am going on
an interview tomorrow for a new job and I have had many.  Partly because the routine of them gets boring and I go look for something else....
I am in training to be a life coach which feels like a much better fit for me now other than accounting which I have done since high school.    But is this wanting the right career or a job that is enjoyable still apart of this world?  And is wanting that just another ego trip that ends in feeling like this isnt what I want either..........?  How does one find any meaning in this world?  I have started today to just bless everyone and everything and I am really feeling my heart is happy with that.  I have started the course lessons for the first time in January and focusing on one a day and I have to say ACIM is the real deal for me....LOVE IT!  Thank you for your post as I continue to learn and let go and be guided!
 
Peace,

Dear Friend,
 It is so wonderful to read your e-mail! I'm happy that you have found the course! I think that we who are on the path of awakening have many many changes as our minds seem to change so fast and expand. This is reflected in changing jobs and changing life situation frequently, as a reflection of our greater understanding/experience of what we Are! The course talks about it in the Self Concept versus Self section (far back), how we will use many self-concepts on this seeming journey. So rather than seeing you changing jobs frequently as specialness I think it is a reflection of your deepening, healing and expansion. It is ok to go look for jobs, if that seems to be called for in the moment. It is still part of this world but it is part of expanding self-concepts that will ultimately be laid by completely. Until then--used in the ultimate sense by the Spirit to the extent the mind is ready!

You ask how one finds meaning in this world, and actually, the only meaning that can be discovered is the Abstract Meaning. There is NO meaning in this world whatsoever. The Spiritual journey is about discovering the One Meaning Within... by the release from searching for meaning in the external world. Then the world will be a place where joy and lightness only is experienced, and finally the world will vanish completely.

It would be wonderful to meet you at one of our retreats! In the meantime I wish you all my love and blessings and Happy practicing of the lessons!

Jenny

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Thank you Jenny & Brenda for
your sweet openess, honesty and
bright clarification!
 
Much love,
Petra  Rood hart

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Thank you Jenny,
I really loved reading this! Inspirational pieces woven together to deliver an experience. I will be reading it again as there is quite a lot to to be washed through!
 
......actually, I just want to express my gratitude!
Love always,
Sue

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The ACIM quotes were brilliant...  Love you (H)

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I guess from a Buddhist/mindulness viewpoint
 
 
1) It is the "desire" that is the problem, not the relationship itself
 
2) Ina relationship the practice is to "be here now" in the relationship. If not in a relationship you are here now "not being in a relationship"
 
thanks

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Thank you so much Jenny!!
I am currently listening to the talk on Soul Relationships. It is perfect for me right now. 
Love you
Sonia x

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Hi Jenny,

Thanks for the talk last night.  It's been a world of conflict here for the past couple of weeks but I feel like maybe yelling at God a bit and venting at you a bit both helped.  I'm ready to turn the page and to put effort back into choosing love.

have a good day.

Love, Brenda

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--- In AwakeningInChrist@yahoogroups.com, "Jenny" <jenny@...> wrote:
>
> Hi Jenny,
>
> I am in the midst of a painful, hopefully, worrisome, fantasy filled,
> school girl crush. It's really quite awful sprinkled with moments of
> bliss. I can't think this is the Holy Spirit's work, what with the pain
> factor but I can't seem to give it up either. I am just on the section
> about Trust and I see that I do not - like not at all - trust the Holy
> Spirit to bring me blissful earth love. I am afraid the Holy Spirit's
> version of a correct mate will be like letting your dad choose a guy for
> you; someone with whom there is no spark, no attraction. Essentially a
> man like most I have dared to date over the years!
>
> On top of the pain of crushing on someone who appears largely
> disinterested in me I have the guilt of wanting earth love. I want to
> want just and only a relationship with God but the truth is I WANT MAN
> LOVE !!!! And I cannot imagine a time that I won't.
>
> At this moment I would like to relax and stop obsessing over this man,
> stop firing emails off at him, stop TRYING to create a relationship.
> But I'm afraid to turn it over to the Holy Spirit. I'm afraid He'll
> have different priorities than mine and that He'll drop the ball. I
> know the Course says that God is aware of my preferences and my
> perceived needs but I don't trust Him to deliver the goods. Again I am
> viewing God as the parent who won't give me a treat because to do
> without it, to sacrifice, is for my own good. Blick! Down with for my
> own good!
>
> So dear Jenny I just needed to vent. I know you will tell me to turn my
> worries and my crush over to the Holy Spirit and to trust that I will
> receive my heart's desire. I'm just unhappy to think that my "true"
> heart's desire may be something dull and dry and boring. Another effing
> Jeff who wants to sit around watching televised sports, overeating and
> telling old over-told stories and using old over-said cliches.
> Aaarrggghhhhhh !!!!
>
> Love,
> Brenda
>
> ~♥~
>
> Answer 1 (short as I just woke up):
>
> Thanks for sharing Brenda! You're funny: "I am afraid the Holy Spirit's
> version of a correct mate will be like letting your dad choose a guy for
> you."
>
> Maybe you need to approach him and see if he really isn't interested
> like you thought. You can practice just watching your mind and have your
> One relationship with Holy Spirit present as you do this..
> Let me know how it goes..
> Love you!!!!!
>
> Answer 2, (later, after my morning prayers):
>
> I think a way to let go of this crush is to know that God has something
> better for you. It will probably become VERY obvious when and with whom
> you are going to enter into a relationship with. If you had a beautiful,
> heart opening experience that seemed to involve this man, great and
> beautiful, but the practice then is to let go of the form, and the
> fantasies of trying to hold on to it. YOU HAVE ALL LOVE ALREADY AND YOU
> ARE IT!!! I have had to go through this too, and the faster you
> are able to let go of the wishing the easier it gets. You just accept
> your own worthiness and let the Holy Spirit extend through you
> EVERYWHERE...
>
> This is an alternative to what I wrote in my earlier e-mail. ; )
> I Love You!
> Jenny
>
> ~♥~
>
> I like both bits of advice! I will approach and see what happens and
> try very hard to let go if he is not interested.
>
> ~♥~
>
> Then Brenda and I had some communication via sms and Skype chat. She had
> expressed her longing for sex, cuddling, physical intimacy, "giggling
> under the covers," and feeling deprived of these things. I also had told
> her to invite the Prince of Peace (Holy Spirit) instead of waiting for a
> man of flesh and bones.. She didn't think the Prince would be able to be
> as satisfactory as a physical form.
>
> ~♥~
>
> Hi Jenny,
>
> Wow, what a trip a crush is! Really it rather sucked all round from the
> unfulfilled longing up front to the disappointment once I realized the
> real man was not the man I'd dreamed up.
>
> I want to know how the Prince of Peace can replace and even exceed the
> joys of earth love. I know those joys are temporary but they are so
> intense at some moments. I can't imagine it getting more relaxing than
> an earth nap with someone who loves me and who I love. Someday soon you
> will tell me about the thing I have to look forward to. Or maybe
> someday soon I will see for myself.
>
> Love,
> Brenda
>
> ~♥~
>
> I shared the link to this helpful relationship talk with David and Ann
> West:
>
> http://www.spreaker.com/user/truthfromthesource/david_hoffmeister_soul_r\
> elationships .
>
> ~♥~
>
> Hi Jenny,
>
> First, thanks for sending that relationships talk it was really great.
> Second, I am... I don't know what... not effervescent? I am pissed off
> at being out of a relationship and at not hearing the Holy Spirit! I
> know it'll pass but I keep wanting to reach out to you though I have
> nothing really to say and I know there's not much you can say beyond
> 'hang in there'. Anyway... grrr.
>
> Love you,
> Brenda
>
> ~♥~
>
> So now, Brenda and I joined on Skype chat tonight.. emotions were
> expressed, quite strong and direct. It doesn't always look or feel
> pretty, but it is so helpful to not protect the feelings, but truly see
> them by allowing them up in awareness—exposing them. I gave the
> advice to go within, to give over the wanting to the Holy Spirit by
> going deeper with it.. go underneath. In a quiet restful space to sink
> in and let go.
>
> There is a promise that even our unreal needs will be met when allowing
> the Spirit to lead us. That is why there can't even be a perceived
> sacrifice. I think the belief in sacrifice was reflected in Brenda's
> idea that the Holy Spirit would be like her "dad," the common fear that
> surely what the Holy Spirit wants for you is not what you would want..
> Of course the Holy Spirit isn't truly apart from us as the mind thinks
> in its deceived state.
>
> And here.. the Course's answer to the longing, the wanting, and the
> boosted "gift" of special love. Thank you for reading! [:x]
>
> Love,
> Jenny
>
>
> First a quote about how pleasure is actually pain, since it equates you
> with being a body, and how you, when listening to the ego, think
> pleasure is happiness. Feel free to continue the reading in the Course;
> The Second Obstacle to Peace, The Belief the Body is Valuable for What
> It Offers:
>
> It is impossible to seek for pleasure through the body and not find
> pain. It is essential that this relationship be understood, for it is
> one the ego sees as proof of sin. It is not really punitive at all. It
> is but the inevitable result of equating yourself with the body, which
> is the invitation to pain. For it invites fear to enter and become your
> purpose. The attraction of guilt must enter with it, and whatever fear
> directs the body to do is therefore painful. It will share the pain of
> all illusions, and the illusion of pleasure will be the same as pain.
> Is not this inevitable? Under fear's orders the body will pursue guilt,
> serving its master whose attraction to guilt maintains the whole
> illusion of its existence. This, then, is the attraction of pain. Ruled
> by this perception the body becomes the servant of pain, seeking it
> dutifully and obeying the idea that pain is pleasure. It is this idea
> that underlies all of the ego's heavy investment in the body. And it is
> this insane relationship that it keeps hidden, and yet feeds upon. To
> you it teaches that the body's pleasure is happiness. Yet to itself it
> whispers, "It is death." (T-19.IV.B.13)
>
>
>
>
> And here is one about your Worthiness of Being Peace, Having It Within,
> and how anything less than accepting this would be sacrifice:
>
>
> It is not sacrifice to wake to glory. But it is sacrifice to accept
> anything less than glory. Learn that you must be worthy of the Prince of
> Peace, born in you in honor of Him Whose host you are. You know not what
> love means because you have sought to purchase it with little gifts,
> thus valuing it too little to understand its magnitude. Love is not
> little and love dwells in you, for you are host to Him. Before the
> greatness that lives in you, your poor appreciation of yourself and all
> the little offerings you give slip into nothingness. Holy child of God,
> when will you learn that only holiness can content you and give you
> peace? (T-15.III.8)
>
>
>
>
> And a quote about Love is not form (=Love can't come from a man or a
> woman, since they are just an image, a projection of belief):
>
>
> Whenever any form of special relationship tempts you to seek for love in
> ritual, remember love is content, and not form of any kind. The special
> relationship is a ritual of form, aimed at raising the form to take the
> place of God at the expense of content. There is no meaning in the form,
> and there will never be. The special relationship must be recognized for
> what it is; a senseless ritual in which strength is extracted from the
> death of God, and invested in His killer as the sign that form has
> triumphed over content, and love has lost its meaning. Would you want
> this to be possible, even apart from its evident impossibility? If it
> were possible, you would have made yourself helpless. God is not angry.
> He merely could not let this happen. You cannot change His Mind.
> (T-16.V.12)
>
>
>
>
> Read this if you ever look to "some body," or what you used in the past,
> to fulfill unreal needs:
>
>
> The past is the ego's chief learning device, for it is in the past that
> you learned to define your own needs and acquired methods for meeting
> them on your own terms. We have said that to limit love to part of the
> Sonship is to bring guilt into your relationships, and thus make them
> unreal. If you seek to separate out certain aspects of the totality and
> look to them to meet your imagined needs, you are attempting to use
> separation to save you. How, then, could guilt not enter? For separation
> is the source of guilt, and to appeal to it for salvation is to believe
> you are alone. (T-15.V.2)
>
> If you seek for satisfaction in gratifying your needs as you perceive
> them, you must believe that strength comes from another, and what you
> gain he loses. Someone must always lose if you perceive yourself as
> weak. Yet there is another interpretation of relationships that
> transcends the concept of loss of power completely. (T-15.VI.3)
>
> No needs will long be left unmet if you leave them all to Him Whose
> function is to meet them. That is His function, and not yours. He will
> not meet them secretly, for He would share everything you give through
> Him. That is why He gives it. What you give through Him is for the whole
> Sonship, not for part of it. Leave Him His function, for He will fulfill
> it if you but ask Him to enter your relationships, and bless them for
> you. (T-16.I.7)
>
>
>
>
> And in Fact, you have only one need:
>
>
> Needs arise only when you deprive yourself. You act according to the
> particular order of needs you establish. This, in turn, depends on your
> perception of what you are. A sense of separation from God is the only
> lack you really need correct. (T-1.VI.1-2)
>
>
>
>
> And.. the promise your foolish needs will be met if you let Him teach
> you how:
>
> Foolish requests are foolish merely because they conflict, since they
> always contain some element of specialness. Only the Holy Spirit
> recognizes foolish needs as well as real ones. And He will teach you how
> to meet both without losing either.
>
>
>
>
> When the goal is to "get":
>
> You must have noticed an outstanding characteristic of every end that
> the ego has accepted as its own. When you have achieved it, it has not
> satisfied you. (T-8.VII.2)
>
>
>
>
>
> And I always found this line interesting to ponder:
>
>
> Your part is only to remember this; you do not want anything you value
> to come of a relationship. (T-16.I.3)
>
>
>
>
> And maybe you didn't really know THIS about your searching:
>
>
> It is not form you seek. What form can be a substitute for God the
> Father's Love? What form can take the place of all the love in the
> Divinity of God the Son? What idol can make two of what is one? And can
> the limitless be limited? You do not want an idol. It is not your will
> to have one. It will not bestow on you the gift you seek. When you
> decide upon the form of what you want, you lose the understanding of its
> purpose. (T-30.III.2)
>
>
>
>
> Something that can seem to have a (very) temporary value, has in fact,
> NO value:
>
> Another kindly and related law is that there is no compromise in what
> your choice must bring. It cannot give you just a little, for there is
> no in between. Each choice you make brings everything to you or nothing.
> Therefore, if you learn the tests by which you can distinguish
> everything from nothing, you will make the better choice.
> First, if you choose a thing that will not last forever, what you chose
> is valueless. A temporary value is without all value. Time can never
> take away a value that is real. What fades and dies was never there, and
> makes no offering to him who chooses it. He is deceived by nothing in a
> form he thinks he likes. (W-133.5-6)
>
>
> And here is a section from The Song of Prayer which talks about what
> happens when joining with someone in asking for illusion (specifics).
> This feels like very important Information to me, and makes it easy to
> let go of specialness:
>
> Even the joining, then, is not enough, if those who pray together do not
> ask, before all else, what is the Will of God. From this Cause only can
> the answer come in which are all specifics satisfied; all separate
> wishes unified in one. Prayer for specifics always asks to have the past
> repeated in some way. What was enjoyed before, or seemed to be; what was
> another's and he seemed to love,–all these are but illusions from
> the past. The aim of prayer is to release the present from its chains of
> past illusions; to let it be a freely chosen remedy from every choice
> that stood for a mistake. What prayer can offer now so far exceeds all
> that you asked before that it is pitiful to be content with less.
>
>
> More wisdom from The Song of Prayer on how it's always guilt underneath
> a prayer of need:
>
> It is possible at this level to continue to ask for things of this world
> in various forms, and it is also possible to ask for gifts such as
> honesty or goodness, and particularly for forgiveness for the many
> sources of guilt that inevitably underlie any prayer of need. Without
> guilt there is no scarcity. The sinless have no needs.
>
>
> Now I feel to end this e-mail with this beautiful lesson and prayer..
>
> LESSON 251.
>
> I am in need of nothing but the truth.
>
> I sought for many things, and found despair. Now do I seek but one, for
> in that one is all I need, and only what I need. All that I sought
> before I needed not, and did not even want. My only need I did not
> recognize. But now I see that I need only truth. In that all needs are
> satisfied, all cravings end, all hopes are finally fulfilled and dreams
> are gone. Now have I everything that I could need. Now have I everything
> that I could want. And now at last I find myself at peace.
>
> And for that peace, our Father, we give thanks. What we denied
> ourselves You have restored, and only that is what we really want.
>
>
> I Love You!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>

#3946 From: "Living Miracle Monastery" <sslovetoyou@...>
Date: Sat May 19, 2012 4:08 pm
Subject: Livin’ in the Given with Lisa Every Day Next week at 10am MDT
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Dear Friends

You can join Lisa Fair live from Kamas, Utah Monday through Friday morning next week at 10am MDT for her Livin' in the Given show where Lisa spontaneously shares the daily miracles of love and healing from around the Living Miracles Community.


Starting on Monday, May 21st you can tune in live on Living Miracles TV. And don't worry if you miss it, it will be available for viewing later on our Living Miracles TV site (LM TV Archive).

Check out Lisa's first show in this series on Livin' in the Given, May 15th 2012 .

So mark your calendars:
Days: Monday May 21st through Friday May 25th
Time: 10am MDT / Utah (for time zone help see Time Zone Converter)

Enjoy the show!

Blessings of Love from Kamas


#3947 From: "Living Miracle Monastery" <sslovetoyou@...>
Date: Sat May 19, 2012 5:57 pm
Subject: June Gatherings in Belgium and Denmark with Armelle
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Dear Friends

Our friend Armelle Archbold will be in Europe in early June for gatherings in Belgium and Denmark. See Below for details of these events.

Blessings of love



Gathering in Belgium/Rencontre en Belgique


Awakening to our True Nature and living in Community
Saturday the 2nd of June 10am-12pm and 2-4pm, bring a dish to share for lunch. In "La Source" in Plancenoit, 20 min from Brussels and near the Lion of Waterloo. 40 euros for the day.
Contact Jean-François De Greift 0484/247.874

S'Eveiller à notre Vraie Nature et vivre en Communauté
Samedi 2 juin de 10 à 12h et de 14 à 16h, apportez un plat à partager pour le midi. A lieu à "La Source" à Plancenoit, 20 min de Bruxelles et près du Lion de Waterloo. 40 euros pour la journée.
Contact Jean-François De Greift au 0484/247.874

It will be a great Joy to meet You
Ce sera une grande Joie de Vous rencontrer
With Love/Avec Amour
Armelle


Gathering in Denmark/Gilleleje

"Who We really Are" and living in Community
Wednesday the 6th June, from 6 to 9pm, buen 2 in Gilleleje. Donation 250Kr.
Contact Christian Christensen for more information and to register at +45 4168 7531 or by email at ekimdk@...

I look forward to meeting You...
Overflowing Love
Armelle

#3948 From: AwakeningInChrist-owner@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wed May 23, 2012 2:05 pm
Subject: Exposing Private Thoughts for Healing Release
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hi david, I have a question about sex.

i've been studying the course for about two years. ive read the text and am
almost through the workbook for my first time.
My question is about sex. it doesnt talk about sex, it doesnt say what to do if
your sex drive is really high but you dont have a wife.

so my sex drive is pretty high and historically ive tried to direct that energy
towards prayer and study. the more ive talked with people about it, my elders,
they have told me that this is a very unwise choice. saying that if we supress
our sexuality and dillude ourselves that were channeling it to higher means,
while really, its just getting pushed down deeper and deeper in frustration and
seperation, then it can and does manifest itself in the most un anticipated
ways. And can, become expressed in very unhealthy ways or innapropriate ways if
its not acknowledged from the get go. so, these are the beliefs i have right
now. and i dont want to supress my urges, for fear of them coming out in the
wrong way at the wrong time, yet, im not sure what the best way to move the
energy is. and whats the most helpfull for my spiritual growth and also to set
up good habbits for the span of my life between now, and whenever i have a
girlfriend again(godwilling)

thanks for your consideration

_____________________________________________________________________

Beloved One,

Yes, it is wise to acknowledge the desire for sex and be open to Guidance about
a partner for mind training. It is important to be as gentle and patient as
possible with this, and trust the Holy Spirit with the long range undoing of
misdirected miracle impulses. Stay open for dating opportunities with someone
who shares your desire for spirituality and mind training. I have witnessed
many "arranged" marriages in my 25 years with the Course.

Love you,

David

_____________________________________________________________________

David,

Ive been thinking for some time about how in your retreats a shared session
(correct?) of exposing vulnerabilities and hidden horrors and "private thoughts"
to others is perhaps not in accordance with acim teachings, as it often brings
an onslaught of dread, fear, heaviness, etc. So... might this not pander to ego
mechanisms? as in:

-With this does not the ends (joy) and means (non joy) deviate, where fear,
guilt, attack, suffering, separation, hatred, past, and on and on are encouraged
and made "real," and where "peace now" is put on the shelf for future salvation?
(the ego god of sacrifice)
-What master are we following? Is this fixing a part of the dream that we may
stay asleep, and thus trying to bring truth to illusions?
-Does the H.S. want us in this place and is this Gods Will for us; is this our
"perfect happiness?" What does not bring peace NOW, and what "makes real" with
fear the past, how can that be part of His plan?"
-Is "only the truth is true" being learned? The course states that increasing
fear is not what its about, so... is walking into a coffin of gloom (ha, sorry!)
really healing? Is public pawing through the fear the best way? Is that the
course's way?

I realize, however, that the intent, as with many forms of therapy, is to bring
the shadows into awareness that they can be better dissipated and loose their
power, and also that the ego hides love and the fear of love behind the fear so
that we do not look for it. To expose private thoughts to be cleared, though,
that is in the mind within (content) with the H.S., not, in my understanding,
with other "dream figures" without (form).

I find when I go into my shadows, with or without others, healing does not
occur. Illusions reign supreme and are not let go of, but are rather reinforced
and made "real." And yes, a feeling of bonding and peaceful dreaming may result,
but within the context of an "ego melt." If I go within to the H.S., however, I
can simply decide: "this is true (peace, spirit), and that is false (pain,
illusions)." That I think is the sword that Jesus brings to earth, by merely
helping us decide correctly.

Perhaps I misunderstand your take on this, and I suppose I'm doing the ego thing
of ACIM "interpretation" and that one way is "better" than another. If this is a
veiled attack please forgive me. Nonetheless, would you please care to clarify
and comment?

Thanks so much for all your dedication and teachings.

_____________________________________________________________________

Hi David,

It was great to see you in person last weekend in Loomis after having viewed so
many of your Youtube videos online. I feel that making the trip was was a big
symbolic step for me towards following a new inner-guide, even though I
encountered a lot of resistance to going, including being "sick" and thinking of
a million other reasons not to go.

I have a question. At one point you mentioned that it is easy to waste time in
Course study groups by reading small bits of text and discussing its meaning,
because generally the meaning is clarified on its own later in the text. As a
member of a new course study group this struck me as true. The drive however
exists for many people to come together in the spirit of this teaching to
share. Do you have any recommendations for helpful ways people can come
together in the spirit of A Course in Miracles and actually use their time in an
effective way?

I was really inspired by the "expression session" we did. In all honesty I
thought it sounded kind of silly going in but then really enjoyed the experience
and truly felt uplifted by it. It seems like some kind of similar format could
be used in a weekly meet-up but I'm not sure. What do you think?

Thanks

_____________________________________________________________________

Beloved One,

Here is a page from our website that may help with the Answer:

The Clarity Process

http://www.livingmiraclescenter.org/livingmiracles/teachings/clarity.html

The healing benefits of exposing private thoughts becomes apparent with lots of
practice. What was hidden and protected by repression is voluntarily and
willingly allowed to the surface for exposure and release. This is done in an
attitude and atmosphere of nonjudgment, love, and respect -for looking upon
darkness with the Holy Spirit heals the sleeping mind.

We have used the Clarity Process and expression sessions for years with Great
Success! You can practice this wherever you feel a sense of safety and
security, and people come to our retreats for just this kind of opportunity.

Here are some upcoming retreats and events from our Coming Events page
(http://www.livingmiraclescenter.org/en/events.html) where you can practice:

June 2012

Jun 08 - Jun 10 Conference USA Cleveland, Ohio Airport Marriot
Jun 09 Gathering USA Las Vegas, Nevada A Place for Miracles
Jun 22 - Jun 28 Retreat USA Duchesne, Utah Living Miracles Monastery

July 2012

Jul 01 Gathering USA Big Island, Hawaii Kalani Retreat
Jul 02 - Jul 03 Retreat USA Big Island, Hawaii Kalani Retreat
Jul 07 Gathering USA Minneapolis, MN DC Group
Jul 27 - Aug 02 Retreat USA Strawberry Fields Festival, Utah Living Miracles
Monastery

August 2012

Aug 31 - Sep 02 Retreat Sweden Near Halleforsnas, south of Eskilstuna, Sweden
Granhedsgarden

September 2012

Sep 06 Gathering England Newton Abbot, Devon Chudleigh Knighton Village Hall
Sep 08 Gathering England Worcester, TBA TBA
Sep 09 Gathering England London, England TBA



We also accept retreatant applications at our Living Miracles Monastery at the
following page:

http://www.livingmiraclescenter.org/en/livingmiracles/retreatants/retreat-applic\
ation.html

Love you forever,

~David

#3950 From: "David" <mysticspiritone@...>
Date: Fri May 25, 2012 2:58 am
Subject: Gratitude and Gusto and Expressions of Love...
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Thanks for sharing all that is on your Heart!

Forever in Love,

~David

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Calling

I am at the cottage painting, letting my anger and rage come up, and i feel like
they are the ego's attempt to stop my inspiration, i have kept at it questioning
some of the things that are coming up, questioning the concepts of being a
victim and a victimizer, and i can see that both are false.
I am getting in touch with this deep calling that i have in me, i can see that
even back when i was into body building, and martial arts, and what ever, i have
a great passion for teaching,
and i can see now, that it is this passion that i want to deepen in, i get the
idea that "it is all for me, and people are reflections of my mind" and so i
don't know how to put this in other words than what i am doing,

but

I want to inspire, i want to teach, demonstrate, what you David, Messengers,
Jesus, Kerri, what all of you have demonstrated to me, that my Mind is VERY
powerful, i really want to get in touch with this Power, truly see what it is
that i am capable of, i want to shine the light into the world, i want to
inspire others to follow their heart, as i feel the inspiration to follow my own
heart, there is fear and doubt and ego resistance, but i can tell you  now, with
all of my heart, I WANT THIS, i want too integrate, to feel the power of the
divine, to inspire and be inspired, to share the good news ,
I want to be an instrument for peace
A messenger of God
I want to teach the only lesson worth Teaching, that love, and only Love is
real. I want the full blown experience that this entails, the full recognition
that none of this never happened, i want to live the greatest story ever told,
the most exciting adventure ever lived.
I want to give all to all. Raise the dead, inspire the dispirited. I want to
really get the lesson that i am here to learn, and demonstrate. I want to follow
in the footsteps of all of those that have gone before me into the Light.

In deep love and eternal Gratitude.
I love you all so so much.

Thank you

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David,

I feel I want to share what just came to me, through me. It is a profound
experience, as it doesn't feel like something I read in a book, but really as
I'm writing it, I can feel this so profound shame and guilt that I'm speaking
of, this profound desire for rest from doing or being anything, and this
experience that really there is no answer in words, it's like I'm living all
that is coming through as it comes. I talked to you last week about hearing so
often that I was in denial and that is shown to me what is the real denial. It's
so profound... I can feel since this morning that something was gonna come
today, that I needed to be quiet, to stay in my trailer and just being available
if someone was feeling joining with me (and there has been many joinings in my
trailer and by skype as if to tell me, to strengthen that I don't need to do
anything, go anywhere, it will all be given...), and it feels so good to trust
all that, to not do anything out of guilt or fear of consequences, or out of
listening to the voice of blame, and just trust those feelings, trust that there
is something bigger that is in charge of all of it and I don't have to figure
out, or understand anything. Just a step after the other... Just because that's
the way it is, for no other reason... Nothing is for any other reason than
because it is...

and now there seems to be an experience that no word can be put on, for there is
no word that makes sense, they seem to have no meaning, and still they are put
on this screen, but everything seems to be empty of any meaning, just empty, and
even that is already too much... It just Is.

I love you David (even that seems funny, but I'm sure you know ...)
and am forever Grateful...

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hi David,

oh my God!!!!!!! how to express that with words that cannot describe what going
on inside...
it is sooo amazing...
I'm sooo grateful for our call yesterday and all the support and the so thick
LOVE!!! Crying, laughing, crying, laughing... that is a washing away!!
Later I joined with Amanda, and we eye gazed into each other's eyes for a long
time, and all sense of separation disappeared, there were no two, only the One.
There was a beauty that has never been seen before, for it is not something that
we see with eyes.. it is through the One... the One 'looking' at itself and
Seeing as if for the first time! I had been so blind... I realized those eyes
have never seen anything...
Since then, I am in this profound blissful experience... feeling so much love
pouring through.
I slept only 3 hours last night, I was so awake, and feel so alive...
Today the Spirit has poured through in such a ferm way, and though so clear and
so gentle. There is a certainty that is so strong, and it is as if I am in love
with everyone... even the birds come singing at my windows... Andy was this
beautiful reflection thanking me for all that has been shared today through me!
Thank God... I am so Blessed...

I had a call with Sallyan from England, you met her in England last April, and
she will be helping with the transcription of the audio for the translation of
MMT too... it is sooooo amazing. As we were speaking, I mentioned that we have
the feeling that a community is gonna come together in Europe and she told me
she felt that last Saturday so clearly and just wrote you about that!!!!
I don't understand anything of what's going on... and really I don't need to...
it is so much better like that, it still doesn't mean anything! But wow, what a
JOY, what an amazing Life, day after day... Just as we were saying yesterday..."
what is the surprise for today?" and again today... it is so amazing!

I feel so much JOY, LOVE... want to extend...
I am sooo grateful....

Love You so much!!!!

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Hi David,

I have just come off the Australian Community call which was incredible. Minutes
before I went to the call I read Michael's email to you, which he had sent to me
as I had just sent him the below message. It really is one mind!! I had a
mindblowing experience with Kirsten yesterday where I saw my resistance to the
invitation from the Spirit to join and my attraction to unworthiness. Through
the whole afternoon I just kept feeling to write to you or to have a call with
you - I sat in tears as I watched you hold Paulie's hand in the unworthiness
video Jason made. Anyway, I have no idea what I am saying Yes to, but it feels
as if there is a prompt to join with you that Michael and I both felt
simultaneously in the Mind!! Ha, ha!! I LOVE it!! I know you're pretty busy with
travels and Michael is there another month...so I am free whenever you guys are.
I just love you all so much, I want to give my life fully to the Spirit and know
that I am love. There seems nothing else left to do.

Here is what I wrote to Michael about my experience yesterday:

We then had a great talk about community and what we wanted...I started to "lose
my legs" as I do when something is going on and I knew I had to talk to Kirsten
about the thoughts of becoming a Messenger. I was expressing how I need/want to
be clear if it is just that when I met them I felt "The Call" beyond the symbol
of Messenger that I felt and if that is just an indication of the direction of
my desire for God OR is it that the form of becoming a Messenger is really my
path. I saw that the constant tooing and frooing with this in my mind is
actually a block to having a relationship with Kirsten as I modify all of my
words and behaviour "just in case" I really am meant to join and then somehow I
could "get it wrong". Wow, it was soooo freeing! And then what came was that
Jackie and I just voiced that we just want to be around them whereever they are
(and whichever one really) either here or there (or anywhere in fact!) and for
us that was the only thing that mattered in terms of a community property!!!
Nothing else matters...Kirsten and I sat with tears in our eyes with the
recognition of that...Jackie and I had a big "high five"!

So...that's where I'm at. I feel blessed to be here, I feel blessed to not be
wasting any more of this precious time here with Kirsten in "trying to get it
right"...I just want God, and if that means my/our role is to support the
Messengers in whatever way we can, then what more could I want! We ended up in
much laughter all night! We also thought it would be great if you and I had a
call with David at some point before you leave there.


Big love, gratitude and appreciation to you David forever

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Hi David,

Thank you dear brother, I am soooo grateful for you holding the light out front,
your inspiration and being uncompromising with the Truth. I am being blessed
with miracles over and over. I can hardly believe life could be this good. The
last 2 years and particularly the last few weeks journeying over and being here
in the States has been glorious! And I'm not even at the starting blocks!

I have been joining with the Australian pod including Kirsten and JP about
community. A property like the Buddist centre really inspires me. I can see such
amazing opportunities for us to delve into the mind with projects and connecting
at a deep level in devotion to God. Retreats and collaborative backdrops like
art, dance, media projects, pulling weeds would be so joyous to be organising
and swimming in. I really feel "build it and they will come". It is interesting
that this property is close to Queensland so even our Northern friends are close
by - Rob, Tia, Serano and the like.

Great joining with the Aussie's the other day. Greg has had quite an attachment
to Yowrie and was wonderful to see him allowing the possibility of another
property. It would need to be inspiring he made clear, not a suburban home like
Morisset but something like the Buddist property. I must say my trips to the
Monestary are just so beautiful. I'm not sure what it is exactly, the isolation,
the expansiveness, the trip out there, the devotion, perhaps combination of the
whole, but it deeply resonates. Maybe we've been going there mainly on Sundays
when it is somewhat a day of rest, generally no projects and a time to allow a
deepening of the inward journey. Anyhow all I know is I have this deep resonance
and sense of peace and if I knew what love is, then I am deeply in love!

Having said all that, I feel completely open if it is a property to come in or
not or anything else. I was very wound into the world and it has taken over 2
years to wind out quite a ways to this point. During that time of undoing and
healing I have been open to the prompts and followed best I can. Tears are
rolling down my cheeks as I write, I feel the call for God and I just want it. I
am willing to look at next steps and follow.

I am feeling to ask if you would be open to a one on one with me. I sought of
feel I'm having one with you right now!  Anyhow, if you feel Jason or others are
helpful that would certainly be beautiful, it just feels good to connect with
you in this way before I head back to Australia. I checked with Helena if it
felt good to ask you and she agreed. I am leaving on the 6th June. I am just
finishing my stay at the Lighthouse this Saturday and from Sunday onwards I am
at the Monestary.

In loving gratitude always and forever

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Hi David,

I just had to say how blessed I feel to be transcribing the MMT material and as
I give, I receive. I spent all day working on the MMT audio yet it didn't feel
like work at all. It has been so joyful. I have received such great insights and
if I thought I knew anything about the Course then this material just shows me
that I know nothing. I realised that I cherish the concept of my daughter
because I believe she offers me salvation from the past and the guilt that was
unleashed for losing another daughter in 1995 was recognised. It was one
revelation after another and I went further down the rabbit hole.

Holy Spirit knows what's in my heart and he knows that I wanted to work with you
and be a Messenger of Peace. Last Saturday he showed me that I can have that
right here right now and that I didn't have to wait. Then Armelle said the same
thing to me. Today I realised that I have been working with you for the past two
years with your free materials and books. Today I actually felt like I was a
Messenger  of Peace as I worked on the transcribing. David Hoffmeisters
messengers are popping up all over the world.

I just wanted to share my joy and say thank you. Have a great day.

Lots of love

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Hi David

I have so much gratitude and a growing and deepening appreciation for all that
you do. This quote that I came across recently says exactly how I feel:

God be with those who explore in the cause of understanding; whose search takes
them far from what is familiar and comfortable and leads them into danger or
terrifying loneliness. Let us try to understand their sometimes strange or
difficult ways; their confronting or unusual language; the uncommon life of
their emotions, for they have been affected and shaped and changed by their
struggle at the frontiers of a wild darkness, just as we may be affected, shaped
and changed by the insights they bring back to us. Bless them with strength and
peace. (Leunig)

I both bless you and feel so blessed to have met you.

Lots of love

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Dear David,

I'm ready to go to your community. I want to wake up! I ate and played for many
days, but nothing can really satisfy me, as I had known this world is really
just a dream. I can't bear this anymore, you know what is false, but don't know
what is true. Everything just like a lie or a joke. Whatever I do, always feel
there is something else more important waiting for me to finish it. What should
I finish it? What should I do? I can't bear this feeling. I want to wake up! I
want to see true! I want to feel God! But I don't know how. I need your help!

What should I do? How should I do? Please give me some guidance, please!

I want to say "I love you", but I feel weak now. But I know I really love you,
and I need your love.

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David ! Thank You for being the Wayshower I need right now...you are a Good
Teacher, I am beginning to recognize I'm needing you less and less, I am a good
learner!! So so grateful for everything you are showing me Holy Spirit!!!!! Holy
Spirit says I still need you.... For now. Enveloped in Your Love :)

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Hi David and Lisa!

You have been in my awareness a lot since you left California....

First off I want to share the gratitude that is in my heart for your visit to
Los Angeles! What fun! What Joy! And what a great opportunity for mind watching!
I feel so incredibly grateful for you as Witnesses. Just what the Doctor
ordered: Glorious Witnesses! You have inspired and encouraged me to let go more
deeply and move deeper into the experience of Truth. Your visit felt like the
permission to "pass go" my mind was waiting for to step more fully into what has
lately felt like a free fall into Joy and Freedom.

I am watching my mind as I write and I am saying no to past tendencies to hide
out, to rationalize away my prompts, and to give into judgments, and I am
sharing my intention to stay connected.

I feel inspired to have you back to Los Angeles! Lisa the day you were leaving I
heard a heart call from you to come back to LA, and I also recall you both
mentioning a call to go to Agape. I'd love to take you to Agape! Or to any other
heart calls you might have in Southern California.

In staying with the practice of saying no to past tendencies I will also share
that I would be grateful to join in conversation with you. I have felt for some
time that I am walking in place a bit in my mind, hearing what I believe to be
the next steps for letting go in mind, but having some doubt thoughts about it.
Much like the conviction that your Witnessing gave me in your visit, I feel it
could be very helpful for me to have the strength of conviction that sharing in
conversation may bring. It also feels like the Guidance is to ask to share and
to share because it is a means of undoing guilt for me to do so.

Wow, from the moment I got the unmistakable prompt to email you when I saw you
were coming to Los Angeles, to the car rides and joining in my home, to the
gatherings, and straight through to this email, I have been watching my mind and
observing the "guilt" arising, and the temptation of defenses wanting to be
employed. It is fascinating and I am grateful not only for the indescribable
Love and Joy that I experienced joining with you, but for the healing
opportunities!

David, thank you for your gentle Joyfulness, and Lisa for your infectious
Enthusiasm.
Love and hug

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> HI David,
>
> I have been in this place of stepping way back in my mind. Almost like a
another level of laying everything down. This felt different, for the first time
in my life, i wondered if i even believed in GOD...wow that was new,,and there
was many tears and the word Done with all and everything ...I just kept hearing
Done.There was a bit of a spiritual hissy fit with it, and tons of self
judgement but there was  such a strong feeling of being done. I had a vision of
all these chords, kind of like an  old telephone operator board, and they were
all getting pulled out.
>
> There was a feeling of the spiritual path, and everything spiritual is DONE
too. At first i was very angry and then there was a feeling of deep sadness too
of how i haven't been present in my life for because of this seeking idea, and 
seeing how the ego gets in on the "spiritual" path, and has made it an addiction
of sorts at times...Like there is  somewhere, something , some place to get
too...to be...to be part of...and so on.  Another betterment program.
>
> There has been a deep sense of peace since this moment..as well  also periods
in between of deep tears, and anger. Yet there seems to be a feeling of just
wanting to sit and watch the hummingbirds. A  strange feeling of Empty but
Full...comfortable but uncomfortable....not knowing where i belong, but not
needing to belong anywhere. Not much in the way of thoughts or opinions, kind of
blank, not looking for anything, yet not running from anything.I guess just here
now, and there is a peace yet  a strange thirst and longing for something...but
i think the craving is just old desires wanting to be fulfilled....i see how the
spiritual path has been a fix in a way... I have made this more complicated that
it was ever meant to be...I just had a feeling come in as i write
this...stepping way back to i can truly just allow the being done through...
>
> I had a dream last night, that I was in a community where there were all these
showers and people were naked...I was trying to pull some curtains around me
feeling kind of shy and exposed, and then i just let go of worrying about being
seen naked, or what anyone would think,  and then you walked  up David.
>
> You took my  hand gently  and we started walking up this spiral staircase that
just kept climbing up higher and higher(maybe the stairway to heaven:),  and it
was very playful and joyful, and child like innocence, of not even noticing that
I didn't have clothes on. Just like when my children were young and would run
around naked laughing and free, and playing with complete Joy.The freedom to
be...(just heard the Nirvana song..(Come as you are)...to just come as you
are...perfect innocent..and free.
>
> I just now had a image of a child playing in a sandbox, in the moment with the
sand and shovel and just being with the sand until they feel to move on to what
ever is they feel guided to do. I guess im just in the sandbox right now..until
that beautiful moment when you see the child move to what ever is next with out
having to know. Something about writing that just now, has tears flowing, i can
feel it deeply i dont know what it means but i can feel the innocence of the
child in the sandbox content with only that moment....
>
> With Much Love...

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hello David...

I was talking to Erik and asked him how do you feel like in real life.. and he
said you are awesome.. he said you are cool and down to earth. this adds to what
I already feel about it. I just feel want to tell you that I feel so safe and
lovable with you. I really want to be close to you. I can admit that I felt so
much angry with you yesterday as I was watching a video for you. I was angry
because you are enlightened and you know much more than I do. you seem you damn
know everything!!!!!!! you answer all questions with certainty and I feel
jealous!!!!!! I can do it toooooo... right????? ... I have the same inner voice
that you haveeeee...... This is not fair... you can't be awakened while I am
still stuck in this illusion.. lol... I couldn't be laughing at this yesterday.
Yesterday I was really serious about my anger but now I forgive you.. lol.

we are all still asleep while you are awake.. how dare you!!?? lol.. please give
us your hand... hey David I want to wake up this lifetime. do you hear this?
help me ok? pleaseeeee

I just want to tell you that I love you and miss you and want to be with you....

#3951 From: "Living Miracle Monastery" <sslovetoyou@...>
Date: Sun May 27, 2012 7:40 pm
Subject: Livin in the Given with Lisa - Live again all next week.....
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Dear Friends

Lisa will be live again all next week with her Livin' in the Given show, spontaneously sharing the daily miracles of love and healing from around the Living Miracles Community.

Join her Monday through Friday morning at 10am MDT live on Living Miracles TV. And don't worry if you miss it, it will be available for viewing later on our Living Miracles TV site (LM TV Archive).

So mark your calendars:
Days: Monday May 28th through Friday June 1st
Time: 10am MDT / Utah (for time zone help see Time Zone Converter)

Enjoy the show!

Blessings of Love from Kamas


#3952 From: "Living Miracle Monastery" <sslovetoyou@...>
Date: Sun May 27, 2012 8:55 pm
Subject: L.M. Monastery June 22-28 Retreat
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Week-long Retreat at The Monastery

Duchesne, Utah

Description
Join with David and the Messengers for a full week of going deep into the experience of God's Love! There will be teaching sessions, movie sessions, music and opportunities to truly connect with other devoted friends from around the world. Call Suzanne for more information.

Time
Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2012 - Thu, 28 Jun 2012
Start time: 7:00 pm
End time: noon

Cost
Cost: 900.00 USD an extra fee of 50 USD for a round trip shuttle from the SLC airport
Cost includes: Retreat, lodging and all meals
Registration fee (non refundable): 300 USD
Venue address: 35840 W Strawberry Rd Duchesne, UT 84021
Venue website: www.livingmiraclescenter.org

Contact
Contact person: Suzanne Sullivan
Email: suzanne@livingmiraclescenter.org
Phone: 435-630-5447

#3953 From: "David" <mysticspiritone@...>
Date: Mon May 28, 2012 12:52 pm
Subject: Re: L.M. Monastery June 22-28 Retreat
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Beloved One,

Here is a video link of the group at Living Miracles Monastery that has been
preparing for the Upcoming Summer Retreats:

http://youtu.be/634oIhRAaCQ

Enjoy!!!

Forever in Love,

~David

#3954 From: AwakeningInChrist-owner@yahoogroups.com
Date: Fri Jun 1, 2012 1:22 am
Subject: Gatherings in NZ, 9th and 12th June
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Dear Friends,

Jackie and I will be in New Zealand for a short visit next week. Lynne, Anne and John are hosting two gatherings, the details are below.

We look forward to seeing dear friends and new friends! :x


With much love and many miracles!

Kirsten and Jackie


Hi to all our fellow ACIM followers

We are very happy to announce two gatherings with Kirsten and Jackie

Kirsten and Jackie are miracle-workers and ministers with Living Miracles Australia. They are inspired to hold two gatherings in New Zealand this coming Saturday (9th June) and Tuesday (12th June.) Jackie and Kirsten are a mother-daughter team who have been through extensive letting go of roles and opening to the Holy Spirit's purpose for their lives and relationships. They are living proof that sacrifice is not the outcome of letting go of specialness - the richness of real relationship is the gift that awaits.

The main theme of the gatherings is the undoing of special relationship
and the joy and freedom that this leads to.


On Saturday 9th June there will be a pot luck dinner at 5.30 pm
followed by a movie and discussion
at Lynne's home 2/92 Tindalls Bay Road, Whangaparaoa
 (ph 09 4243110)
The movie is "When a Man Loves a Woman"
a wonderful movie addressing the issue of "Special Relationships"
 A donation of $15 is suggested 
(To support the work of Kirsten and Jackie)

On Tuesday 12 June there will be a gathering from 9.30 am to 12 noon,
at Anne and John's home, 4 Marine Parade, Orewa
(ph 09 4260224)
Morning tea will be served.
A donation of $20 is suggested
(To support the work of Kirsten and Jackie)

Please forward this e-mail to anyone you know who may be interested.

With love and blessings
Anne, John and Lynne

#3955 From: "David" <mysticspiritone@...>
Date: Sat Jun 2, 2012 2:00 am
Subject: Gratitude, Questions, and Expressions
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Dear David,

I just want to thank you SOOOOOOOOO much for the "role" you have played in my
Awakening.  I realize that this could be a very "dangerous" thing to say but at
this Moment, I feel that I am Done.  My "interest" in "Awakening" and
"Enlightenment" has disappeared and I rest in quiet Peace for What Is Now.

I've been invited by my "biological family" to go camping and with Great Joy I
leave tomorrow for Holy Encounter after Holy Encounter!... An Opportunity to
truly See each "shadow figure from the past" in a completely New Light!  I will
likely stay at the Lake for the entire month of June, just basking in the Moment
and letting the Spirit shine through me around the campfire with music, etc..

I look forward to seeing you in late July for the Music Festival.  It feels
really Excellent now to let my "parents" drive me out, drop me off at the
Festival while they do some sight-seeing around Utah's state parks (and perhaps
drop in to the Festival for a bit of music as Guided), and then drive me back to
Petaluma afterward.

Thank you SOOOOOOOO much, once again, for the Light You have Shown Me.  I Love
You so Dearly and Everlastingly!
:-)
Erik

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Hi Erik,

I love you too!  Sounds like a glorious Summer the Holy Spirit is orchestrating,
and I rejoice with you!!!

Love you forever and ever,

David

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Hi David,
I have just watched the 'Revolver' with Rochelle, via skype. She was there
supporting as I watched it and giving me HS interpretation from what she had
heard from Jason's clips and guidance coming through her. It was so helpful. But
now I am feeling this very strong pull, which I have spoken to Jason about. That
is, the idea of going into a male prison and doing some volunteer work. How
funny, that I have moved to a town that has a Male medium security prison 7 mins
from my home and a female correction centre about 15 mins away!!! I have seen
myself in prison.....hehe as a visitor......or is it the prison of my own
mind!!!

I heard the prisoner's asking me(in my mind) why I was there? I really had to
look at this. Do I want to 'save' others? No, I see that it is all about me and
wanting to forgive everything. But I also think, I don't really have to go to a
prison to do this, I can just go to the prison in my mind. But this doesn't feel
quite right. The prompt is to go to a Male prison. So my answer to the question
ends up being " I truly want to be of Service" that is what I feel in my heart.
When I am of service I am in the realm of the Creator, literally, I feel myself
enter the Mind of the Creator and it is so sweet there it is the same feeling I
get when I meditate or sit with a Holy companion. So in a way there is no hiding
from this....I think I need to give it a go. The problem is that I am not sure
how to label myself to get in. Do I say I want to do meditation classes but I
have no formal experience with this? Do I say that I will provide Reiki as I
have vast experience? This scares me as it is very intimate and one on one. Do I
offer it without touching the body, keeping hands above person a few inches?
Many therapists do this. Or what truly makes my heart sing is to hold a small
group to do "The Artist's Way". Facilitating this makes me sing. Again, I have
held and facilitated these groups many times over last two years but no formal
experience.

I suppose I just need to make the call.

If you have any insights or thoughts coming through, I would love to hear from
you.

Love Always
Sonia xx

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Hi Sonia,

If what truly makes your heart sing is to hold a small group to do "The Artist's
Way," then I would go ahead and contact the male prison and ask them first if
you could make this offering.  If they agree it can open up to other things like
meditation sessions later on.  Go for it!

Love you,

David

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My dear Brother,

Firstly i would like to thank you from the bottom of my heart for all that you
are giving to the world.Your words have touched me in my heart so much and i am
deeply grateful for you and your generous giving to us all. I only found ACIM a
short time ago, but it has changed my life beyond words.

I have been on the spiritual pathway for about 7 years now and have worked on
spiritual websites as a mentor and guide to many people, but then i realised
once i found the course, that i was neither qualified in experience or knowledge
to be such a guide.I came away from the jobs and pretty much became a recluse,
in order to do the inner work i so badly needed to do. I gave away all of my
worldly posessions apart from a few clothes, signed my apartment over to my son
and took the very frightening step of stopping my state benefits claim ( i've
been unemployed for some time) in order to be free of my own ideas about how to
survive and to place my trust in our father to provide for me. This was the
scariest step, as i had become very dependant upon these benefits to survive but
i wanted to trust my father to be my provider now.

I am now in a position where i have nothing Brother and although i have asked
for guidance i have not yet received an answer that i can perceive. I am living
on toast every day and my son is kindly allowing me to stay in his apartment
with him, but this is causing a real strain on him as he doesn't believe in God
let alone what i am trying to do and is struggling to help me as he is not
financially sound either and he needs money for rent from me. I have said to the
holy spirit, that if i need to get a job, i will, or if i need to wait for a law
suit i have pending which will eventually provide me with some money, then i can
do that too.I just need to know which way to go. Do i claim benefits, or do i
simply wait (which will put more strain on my son, which isn't fair to him).

I simply don't know what to do Brother, so if there is any advice you can give
me, it would really help.I have pledged to be part of the atonement for the rest
of my life and will gladly do this in honour of the love my father has for me. I
Am working through the course and have already come so very far in such a short
amount of time. I know that i can realise this but have kinda hit this stuck
point and can't seem to find my way through it.I just need some advice as to how
to change my perspective on this. Can you please help me? What am i missing
here?

With great love and deep respect,

Your brother.

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Beloved One,

I feel that you can see receiving benefits and a Helpful symbol of Divine
Providence, and there is no need to interpret this symbol as coming from the ego
and feeling dependent on the "system."  I am glad that the Spirit's Gift of Love
has touched your heart, and I know that whatever you truly need in serving the
Father will come into your awareness.

Showers of Blessings!

Love you,

David

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Blessed David, I am a follower and disciple of yours since I recognize the
Christ in you and your teachings in books which inspires me to keep going on the
path to awakening even though I am slow and distracted in doing the Course in
Miracles lessons etc. I am teaching what I wish to learn with a CIM group every
month however you can see from the following paragraph that I am at the bottom
rung of the awakening ladder.

My question relates to a relationship I was in for over 5 years and which I have
just ended because although 90% of me wanted the relationship the remaining 10%
would not cooperate meaning I could not be fully present in the relationship
which in the end took its toll. My girlfriend wrote to me and said she hoped
that I could find what I was looking for (if not her) and I know full well that
there is nothing to find outside of myself. I know that no other woman, partner
or situation will make me happy because happiness is inside when the ego mind is
still and when I can be guided by the spirit or in a holy relationship which
could be with anybody. The thing is that I don't understand why the holy spirit
couldn't have helped me with the relationship I had because clearly some part of
me must have perceived lack or preference somewhere to have left the
relationship. My ex girlfriend had everything I needed ie all the teaching I
required to make it into a holy relationship and now I am in the senseless
situation of maybe casting my net around hoping to find some kind of person who
I might be able to relate to in a better way (?). I also hope that my ex
girlfriend who was innocent as a lamb, was not in your answer on some level
contracting with me to be `crucified' by my rejection and that I had contracted
in some way to be Judas, betraying her trust in pursuit of some perceived gain.
I am devastated to be playing this role out. I like not myself for this behavior
which is altogether conditional and partial. I made a choice with consequences
that I don't understand, please help,

Love and peace

Martin

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Hi Martin,

Thanks for sharing your life's Purpose with me and opening up to share your
thoughts.  I feel that the 90% wanting the relationship, plus the willingness to
see the relationship for true giving, plus the willingness to expose and release
any expectations and demands placed on the relationship are the spark for
rekindling the relationship.  Think in terms of what you are willing to give in
a relationship, and this helps the Holy Spirit use and inspire what is given for
His use.  You have so much to offer and bring to any relationship truly given
over to the Holy Spirit.

Love you,

David

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David,

First, I wanted to say Thank you so much for all your videos and emails postings
thingy they all have been so incredibly helpful.
I have devoted every moment I can for the past whatever time it has been and I
have felt dizzy since starting to read the text.

I started out with just the workbook and waited a while until I thought I was
ready for the text. I basically dove in and have just not stopped spinning.

When I first started with the workbook, I started seeing people glowing
sometimes just like when they moved I could see their outline still there. It
happened with objects too.
I thought maybe it was a problem with my eyes ..displacing light or something
haha.

Now it is all the time. It's like I can see the atoms moving. I don't really
know how to explain it at all. It's kind of like the T.V. when its on static.
Everything is static-y.
Everything has become more static since really doing an overhaul of my beliefs
and going through all the rage + fear. It's even on people now. It's like I can
see their atoms buzzing around.
It's sort of blue-ish. And I can see it more at night.


Also, when I close my eyes and meditate I see this brilliant blue light. At
first it was a circle that wasn't wholly shining. Just like little dots
everywhere. But Now the blue like starts out like a sort-of flattened Saturn.
Then it swirls around and gets brighter then I get scared and it gets less then
it goes around like a siren.

I don't know. It scares me maybe because I think I'm losing control. It doesn't
really bring on a feeling of Deep Peace or anything. It just really grabs my
attention. And sometimes I think, Ok thats enough.
And sometimes it flashes like lightening in my head. like a flash of blue across
or sometimes it flickers. And now even when I open my eyes I see it for awhile.


Please, tell me this is normal lol. I just feel like if it were something holy
it would be sooo peaceful. But instead I just feel scared. Maybe, if I were
honest I feel like it might take me away.
Like all those alien movies.. the blue beam of light then zooom in a space ship
hahaha.

I would really love your insight. I feel like we are already great friends =)
I really hope to meet you someday.


Leah

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Hi Leah,

I am happy you wrote to me.  The things you describe feel like symbols of your
shift in perception and coming into true perception.  The most important thing
is to suspend judgment, as best you can, as the past perception gives way to
Vision.  I am with you all the way, and I hope to meet you someday.:x lovestruck

Love you,

David

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David,
I've met you once before, in California, I'm a young man named Max. It's good to
be writing you.

Lately, I've been quite well. The holy spirit is guiding me every day, and seems
to be here with me always, and I use the holy spirit when ever I have a
question. There has however, been a reoccurring question that comes back over
and over, and seems to be a core thought pattern or defense mechanism of some
kind and it troubles me dearly. When ever I ask the holy spirit how to answer
this question, it seems to have no preference and so I keep asking over and
over. The question is about my sexual identity, whether I am gay or straight or
bi or a-sexual. I feel attracted to both and women in different ways. And
currently I am in a relationship with a woman who I care about and love, someone
who I would like to expand into awareness with.

What seems to happen however, is the more "straight" I feel, the more "gay" the
thoughts say I am, and vice versa. I notice that I defend and protect fears,
deep fears about being perceived as "gay". And I see fears in knowing myself
without any problems, and without anything to worry about, as if I've always
believed that I could never actually love a woman as who I am. I don't
understand why I may not be able to fall in love with a woman now. I hope this
portrays my dreadful dilemma.

Ahh David, I've thought about this so much, for so many hours of so many days of
so many months and my mind is tired. I just want to be happy, and at peace, and
bring peace. I love this girl, but whenever I try to love her I feel like a
phony, and then sometimes the love moves through me and I feel amazing and so
does she. I don't want to defend anything that isn't real. Jesus says to love
everyone the same, like God does, and this I understand and it usually brings
peace to my mind, but I still feel lost and not sure about how to do this.

Is there any such thing as gay and straight, or is everyone equally all gay and
all straight? How am I to know what sexual path offers the better form of
healing for me? Is there even such thing as a better form of healing?

Thank you for your time David,
Max

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Hi Max,

It is OK to explore your beliefs and become more aware of your sexual
preferences.  If you offer your mind to the Holy Spirit to use these will be
loosened over time, so give yourself some allowance to open your heart and let
your life unfold without unnecessary worry or guilt or concern.

Love you,

David

_____________________________________________________________________

Hi David

I've been listening to you quite a bit these days and am enjoying your voice.

As I near the end of Practicing Holy Relationship - Part 6/7, on youtube

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3-izBZQ_SB8&feature=relmfu

a re-occuring question comes up. Everyone is sharing how in the letting go and
surrendering to the Holy Spirit everything works out so much better and yet
there is the story of Jesus and many other great saints who ended up suffering a
great deal on the human plane - at least physically if not otherwise.

The sharings seem to imply that only wonderful things will happen (spontaneous
wedding where everything is taken care of as if by magic, etc) and yet it seems
tha surrender gives no guarantees of outcome, that the wonderful dream could be
interupted in a multitude of ways etc. I was wondering if you could comment on
this.

thanks for your guidance

Claude

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Hi Claude,

Thanks for your question.  Jesus only appeared to suffer at the end of his life
through the ego's interpretation.  Actually when the mind is healed or
resurrected, all pain is impossible.

Love you,

David

______________________________________________________________________

David,

I lost the email from Suzanne about the retreat. I want to come, just have a lot
going on with my house, job, other.  I  Think Spirit is pushing me to make
change.  I will continue to meditate, listen and pray if it is meant to be.
Please send email again.

Peace
Rhoda

_____________________________________________________________________

Hi Rhoda,

I am enclosing the link to the upcoming week long retreat at the end of June:

http://www.livingmiraclescenter.org/events/event.php?eventid=108

Hope to see you there!  There is another week long retreat that begins on July
27th as well.:x lovestruck

Love you,

David

_____________________________________________________________________

Dearest David,

Indeed the way is opening-opening-OPENING !!!  I am in the process of moving
into a trailer on a friends farm with Mia.  I'm using the cleaning of the
trailer as a backdrop symbol of washing away the false veil of causeless
thoughts and withdrawing identification with them.  I'm thrilled and I can feel
in my heart that this is what the Holy Spirit has planned for us !  I'm so
excited to watch the backdrop change with such a contrast. I love this
reflection of what's happening in the Mind!  So glorious.  No internet or big
screen tv and going from a big two story house with two dogs and a cat to a
trailer and no animals or cable.  It will be a wonderful opportunity to allow
the healing to happen !!!  No more shame and difficulty of living with my
mother!  The pressure I was feeling to find a job is gone because the rent is
very low. Prayers have been answered and Miracles abound!  Although I'm working
through beliefs around self image concepts, such as feeling self conscious to be
living in a trailer and insecure about what others think of me.  I feel sooooo
excited and happy already ! Yay !:x lovestruck

  I love you !

Love, love, love
Jessica

_____________________________________________________________________

Precious Jessica,

I am so happy that the miracle has given you new hope, and that you can feel the
change!!!

Love you always,

David

_____________________________________________________________________

Thank you David for our call and your Presence...
It all feels good... the pain has disappeared and the sickness too, as if ...
and i feel quite peaceful and ready for the gathering tomorrow and happy to
extend the Gifts of the Kingdom and the healing of specialness! I even had a
counseling call now in the States, and I feel my mind so at rest!
I also shared a bit with my mother of where I am at and what I feel called to...
if feels good to be authentic. And as I pray I keep feeling I don't feel called
to sign any paper, I'd prefer someone else would be the god mother, and I can be
the heart one;-) more symbolic of a Presence...
I so appreciate again sharing everything that came to my mind those 24 last
hours and remembering also that I am not the thinker of those thoughts, no the
doer of it all... and it will and does unfold the way it supposed to, for the
best for everyone!

The excitement and intensity of those mystical or profound experiences is gone
and give place to a quiet peace and joy...
Love you
Armelle


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world upon strong invitation. He  has visited 28 countries and 49 states in the
USA. His writings exist in 6 languages.  As for Help with questions you may
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#3956 From: "David" <mysticspiritone@...>
Date: Sat Jun 2, 2012 1:42 am
Subject: New Book from FIP Board Member Bob Rosenthal
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Dear David,
I was kindly given your name and email by Deborah Roberts of the Foundation for
Inner Peace. I've served on their board for about 20 years now. I was an early
student of ACIM, knew Helen and Bill, and became a very close friend of Bill's.

I've just published my first book, a Hay House release titled From Plagues to
Miracles: The Transformational Journey of Exodus, From the Slavery of Ego to the
Promised Land of Spirit. It looks at the Exodus story through the lens of ACIM
and reinterprets the journey of the Hebrews as a metaphor for, or allegory of,
the spiritual journey back to God in all its stages. The conflict between
Pharaoh and Moses becomes a representation of our internal struggle to free
ourselves from ego (Pharaoh) and follow Spirit (Moses, or the Moses-mind, as I
like to call it -- merely another name for H.S.). It is not just a recitation of
Course principles however as I'm hoping to reach a broader audience that might
otherwise be turned off by the Course's abstract and heavily Christian language.
For more about the book, or to read excerpts, please see my website:
http://www.FromPlaguesToMiracles.com.

I'm hoping to get word of my book out to the ACIM community. Therefore, I'd love
to send you a copy and if you like it, as I hope you will, to let people know.
If interested, just let me know your mailing address.
With gratitude and blessings,
Bob Rosenthal

_____________________________________________________________________

Thanks Bob.  I would enjoy having a look at your new book.

Here is my postal address:

David Hoffmeister
PO Box 789
Kamas, Utah 84036

Love,

David

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Hi Bob,

I really enjoyed your book.  I especially liked Chapter 12: The Wilderness (God,
and Nothing But God).  Your book heralds the need to be uncompromising in
releasing images and self-concepts in order to know the Truth.  I enjoyed the
patient's stories sprinkled throughout the book, and Adyashanti's accounts of
releasing the athlete self-concept through the contrast experience of illness. 
I do think your book will reach a much different audience than the Course, and
introduce more people to the Course.  I intend to pass on my copy of "From
Plagues to Miracles" to my friend Steve at the upcoming Midwest ACIM Conference
in Cleveland, Ohio June 8-10.

I posted a link to your book on my Facebook page, to my 5000 friends.

Blessings of Love to you Bob,

David

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Greetings, David.

First, thank you so much for your willingness to give my book a read. I know how
busy most of us are and I do appreciate the time involved.
Second, I'm so glad you enjoyed it! I admit, The Wilderness is one of my
favorites too, I suspect that's because it's where most ACIM students situate
themselves on the Exodus journey. We're all honing our capacity for discernment
and trying to live off manna rather than fantasies of the past and future.
And third, but not least, much gratitude for posting the FB link, and for
passing along the book to your friend Steve. Like Bill and Helen, publicity does
not come naturally to me, and yet it's just expected of authors today. Given
that reality, this is how I choose to pursue it, one brother to another, and
your response gives me validation that I don't have to "sell out" to get my
message heard. So I thank you. (And I'll look you up on FB and "friend" you too!
:-))

You are correct when you say that the book is geared towards a different
audience than ACIM, although there is significant overlap. My chapter on
miracles, for example, obviously deviates in many respects from Course
teachings. But how else to begin to make miracles accessible to those who still
believe they are special and performed only by the most saintly.

And yes, I am indeed hoping that my book will bring many more people to drink
from the deepest well of all: the Course.

Wishing you blessings and peace,
Bob

#3957 From: "David" <mysticspiritone@...>
Date: Sat Jun 2, 2012 2:51 pm
Subject: Ready for some Passion in your mornings: Try Livin In The Given LIVE streamin TV
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Beloved One,

Blessings of Joy as we head into a loving Summer!

Come have a peek at Livin In The Given TV show, LIVE streaming weekdays at 10am
MST on http://LivingMiraclesTV.org

http://www.livingmiraclestv.org/?page_id=1718

There are a number of these archived shows hosted by Lisa Fair that I know you
will Enjoy!!!

Love you forever,

~David

#3958 From: "Living Miracle Monastery" <sslovetoyou@...>
Date: Mon Jun 11, 2012 5:29 pm
Subject: Reminder of the Tele-Cass with David this Thursday, June 14th
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Dear Friends,

On June 14th,  6pm Pacific  7pm Mountain  9pm Eastern,  there is another opportunity to listen in to a free tele-class with David Hoffmeister.  The tele-class offers profound support in living a life of peace and joy at no cost to you. It's the Living A Course in Miracles series hosted by our friend Jennifer Hadley.

Jennifer expresses her deep commitment to living A Course in Miracles from moment to moment in her busy life as an active minister, Science of Mind practitioner and spiritual counselor from the Agape community.  See our introduction video here:  http://youtu.be/z7oWQzQ7ftc 

Click to register and accept the gift!  

This series offers clear, practical support you can use to dig into the places in life where you're not aligned with love, where you've been confused and challenged.  Jennifer has gathered some of the warmest and wisest teachers for this tele-seminar series, so you can learn how they actually live the teachings of A Course in Miracles.

On June 14th, David will be talking about successful spiritual practice - 1% principle & 99% practice. Some of the topics for the series are:
  • Choosing Love
  • Life, Death & the Illusion
  • Money and Forgiveness
  • Hearing the Holy Spirit
  • Walking the Talk in your family
  • Forgiveness and Relationship
Join us to receive the support you've always wanted.... as our guest! 


Blessings of Love,

We hope you can participate!

#3959 From: "David" <mysticspiritone@...>
Date: Fri Jun 15, 2012 12:36 am
Subject: Helena's Concert Tour in Southwestern USA in early July
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Beloved One,

In early July Helena and friends are coming to Santa Fe and Albuquerque New
Mexico, Sedona, Arizona, and Las Vegas, Nevada sharing a concert and some
Enlightenment teachings.  If you would like to host her along the way, please
contact her at: helena@... and visit
http://livingmiraclescenter.org/concerts for more info and a music video preview
of the concert to be performed on the tour.

You will be so happy you attended/hosted!

Love you,

~David

#3961 From: "songofgratitude" <songofgratitude@...>
Date: Mon Jun 18, 2012 8:48 pm
Subject: Helena's Musical Tour in NV and CA in August
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Tour of the Heart

We are now planning to continue the Tour of the Heart with concerts in Nevada and California in August!!! Woooooohooooooooo!!! These are the places that we are feeling to visit between the 14th - 27th of August:


- Las Vegas
- Los Angeles
- Hollywood
- San Francisco

Contact us at concerts@... if you are interested in hosting us on this tour!

For more info, and to experience one of the songs that we will be sharing, go to
www.livingmiraclescenter.org/concerts

Join us at the Concert of the Heart!


Concert & Tour Description

Hear music that touches the heart and speaks of the desire to awaken to who we really are! Join with Helena and friends in their intimate sharing of music; concerts that take us into the journey of healing the mind, inspired by the teachings of A Course in Miracles.

Heaps of loving miracles!!!
Helena



----- Forwarded Message -----
From: David <mysticspiritone@...>
To: AwakeningInChrist@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, June 14, 2012 6:36 PM
Subject: [MOP] Helena's Concert Tour in Southwestern USA in early July

Beloved One,

In early July Helena and friends are coming to Santa Fe and Albuquerque New Mexico, Sedona, Arizona, and Las Vegas, Nevada sharing a concert and some Enlightenment teachings. If you would like to host her along the way, please contact her at:
helena@... and visit http://livingmiraclescenter.org/concerts for more info and a music video preview of the concert to be performed on the tour.

You will be so happy you attended/hosted!


Love you,


~David





#3962 From: "songofgratitude" <songofgratitude@...>
Date: Sun Jul 1, 2012 5:57 pm
Subject: Tour of the Heart - Now With David Parlato
songofgratitude
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Join David Parlato (on the bass to heaven!) and me on our first concert today! You'll find us in Santa Fe, and after that in Albuquerque on the 3rd of July. Wohooooooo!!!


David Parlato and Helena

The Tour of the Heart is being planned and is taking place in the following States:       
- New Mexico (Santa Fe: Sun 1 Jul and Albuquerque: Tue 3 Jul)
- Arizona (Sedona: Fri 6 Jul)
- Nevada (Las Vegas: Sat 7 Jul)
- California (Los Angeles, Hollywood, and San Francisco)

Read more at http://www.livingmiraclescenter.org/concerts  or contact us at concerts@... if you are interested in hosting us on the Tour of the Heart!

David Parlato will also play at our Strawberry Fields Forever Music Festival, at our Living Miracles Monastery this summer.

David Parlato's bio
David Parlato is a bassist and composer who began his musical life as a trumpet player. He went on to study classical double bass and jazz bass, and also began a gratifying teaching career, teaching private students.As a free-lance musician in Los Angeles, he was very active in all facets of the music business, including recording, live television, concerts, and club dates. He has performed and recorded with numerous popular artists, including Barbra Streisand, Frank Zappa, and Buddy Rich. Since moving to New Mexico in 1990, David has continued to teach privately and to perform in a wide variety of classical and improvisational musical settings. David says, "I think of myself as a vehicle for spirit to express and extend itself. This creates healing energy that is then free to travel throughout the Sonship. I am able to do this because I am willing to allow spirit to work through me."


#3963 From: "songofgratitude" <songofgratitude@...>
Date: Sun Jul 1, 2012 5:48 pm
Subject: Tour of the Heart - Now With David Parlato
songofgratitude
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Join David Parlato (on the bass to heaven!) and me on our first concert today! You'll find us in Santa Fe, and after that in Albuquerque on the 3rd of July. Wohooooooo!!!




The Tour of the Heart is being planned and is taking place in the following States:        

- New Mexico (Santa Fe: Sun 1 Jul, and Albuquerque: Tue 3 Jul)

- Arizona (Sedona: Fri 6 Jul)

- Nevada (Las Vegas: Sat 7 Jul)

- California (Los Angeles, Hollywood, and San Francisco)



Read more at http://www.livingmiraclescenter.org/concerts or contact us at concerts@... if you are interested in hosting us on the Tour of the Heart!

David Parlato will also play at our Strawberry Fields Forever Music Festival, at our Living Miracles Monastery this summer.



David Parlato's bio

David Parlato is a bassist and composer who began his musical life as a trumpet player. He went on to study classical double bass and jazz bass, and also began a gratifying teaching career, teaching private students.As a free-lance musician in Los Angeles, he was very active in all facets of the music business, including recording, live television, concerts, and club dates. He has performed and recorded with numerous popular artists, including Barbra Streisand, Frank Zappa, and Buddy Rich. Since moving to New Mexico in 1990, David has continued to teach privately and to perform in a wide variety of classical and improvisational musical settings. David says, "I think of myself as a vehicle for spirit to express and extend itself. This creates healing energy that is then free to travel throughout the Sonship. I am able to do this because I am willing to allow spirit to work through me."


#3964 From: AwakeningInChrist-owner@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thu Jul 5, 2012 11:48 pm
Subject: Retreats with David & Messengers 2012
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Retreats
with David & Messengers 2012


Beloved One,

We are stepping into a time of ever-deepening awareness of the Spirit
Within. We'd love to join with you in this rich experience, and invite
you to attend one or several of our upcoming retreats and gatherings.

Spirit is calling us into a greater telepathic experience, and there is
a feeling that gatherings and retreats may be dwindling down as the
Mystical Inner Experience is now calling us ever Inward.

Showers of Blessings,
David & the Messengers






USA

Concert of the Heart with Helena & Friends
Helena Tour

Sedona, AZ
July 6, 2012
Las Vegas, NV
July 7, 2012

Minneapolis, MN
July 7, 2012
David Hoffmeister and Frances - Day Gathering

.
Duchesne, UT
July 27- Aug 02, 2012
David Hoffmeister and The Messengers - One Week Retreat and Strawberry
Fields Forever Music Festival at the Living Miracles Monastery



Duchesne, UT
Aug 30-Sep 2, 2012
Jenny Fagerstedt & Armelle Archbold - Into the Mystic Weekend at Master
Peace Retreat



EUROPE

Eskilstuna, Sweden
Aug 31 - Sept 2, 2012
David Hoffmeister and Frances - Weekend Retreat


Devon, England
Sept 6, 2012
David Hoffmeister and Frances - One Day Gathering


Worcester, England
Sept 8, 2012
David Hoffmeister and Frances - One Day Gathering


London, England
Sept 9, 2012
David Hoffmeister and Frances - One Day Gathering


North America

Alberta, Canada
Sept 14-Sept 23
Devotional Retreat with Suzanne Sullivan and Friends
Suzanne


Duchesne, Utah 2013



http://www.livingmiraclestv.org


For more details on any of the events above visit:
http://www.livingmiraclescenter.org

#3965 From: "songofgratitude" <songofgratitude@...>
Date: Mon Jul 9, 2012 8:31 pm
Subject: Tour of the Heart GRATITUDE
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The Tour of the Heart has now finished it's "first leg", with concerts in Santa Fe, Albuquerque, Sedona, and Las Vegas!!! It has been an absolutely AMAZING trip, and I feel such a GRATITUDE to everyone that has been joining in this collaboration of the Heart. Thank you everyone for all of the support in joining in the music, tour planning, hosting, and pouring out your heart in all kinds of ways. The Holy Spirit has just been ripping through everyone in this collaboration, and I soooooooooooooo love You!!!

The Tour of the Heart!                                    
Helena, David Parlato, Ken Kelly, and Lisa Trevino at the Tour of the Heart


PS: Below are comments that we have received through out the Tour of the Heart.


Also, if you would like to host us on our next leg of this tour to California (Los Angeles, Hollywood, and San Francisco) from the middle till the end of August - please let us know, and we'll book you in!!!


Heaps and heaps of loving miracles!!!

Helena

LivingMiraclesCenter.org/concerts
 
YouTube.com/SongOfGratitude

    ♥      ♥      ♥


Helena & Ken JOYned us here in Las Vegas for a TASTE of what is to come at the Strawberry Field Music Festival!! And it is WORTH hearing and seeing. Such bright lights! Love em all!! Wooot Wooot!

Love and light ~
Lisa Trevino

    ♥      ♥      ♥

Thank you! It was wonderful joining with you all. Gratitude is what I feel for you all too.

Much Love!
Ken

    ♥      ♥      ♥

Thank you for blessing us all with your beautiful, creative expression of the yearning.  Your work is so precious - so sacred.
Our gratitude and love go with you as you spread the glorious news in you very intimate way. Truly you are "letting it shine" flat out!

Got to run.  I have my bride dress on and am diving in!
 
Much love,
Karen Waymire
and your Sedona family
 
Enjoy Vegas!

    ♥      ♥      ♥     
 
I wanted to thank you, Helena, for the wonderful CD's you gave me. I will treasure them. The last concert was particularly touching and beautiful, I thought. Again I thank you all for the beautiful gift of your visit and music sharing with all of us in Santa Fe and Albuquerque. It was a true connection and joining in Spirit's Love.

Many blessings of love, peace and joy on the rest of your concert tour.
 
Much love and peace,

Elisabeth

    ♥      ♥      ♥     

Helena - PLEASE give Elisabeth a hug from me :o)!! Wish I were there!! :o) ♥♥♥

Eilleen St. Clair

    ♥      ♥      ♥     

I am so happy with how the tour is unfolding for you!! I'd love to see some videos of you guys. I love the idea of a video for Hold my Hand! I have many files here on my computer for the speed painting of the Journey Inwards picture. They are large files, and will be sending them through WeTransfer as soon as I have free time away from my computer to send them to you.

Much love to you all!! I have you in my heart and mind always.

Showers of blessings and miracles,
Nathan

    ♥      ♥      ♥     

Beautiful radiant Light! ♥
Skye Raven


You go girl!!!
David Hoffmeister


So bright!!!! Thank you angel xoxo
Melanie Caruana


Shine on Sister ♥
Leila Stenberg


Fantastic!!!!!
Lorrie Tomlinson


LOVED JOYning WITH YOU SISTAH!!! WOOOHOOOOOOOO

Lisa J. Trevino


    ♥      ♥      ♥

Good Day, Monastery Person, I know no value can be given for His Divine Encounter of His Serene Moment, so enjoy that endless moment of Serene Divine Encounter for His playful gentleness will lead you in your way, to a joy unspeakable and full of His very Essence that you may become in Him known in His Serenity.
 
D. Dwayne

    ♥      ♥      ♥

Wishing you beautiful harmonious events in your travels. I well not be able to attend in physical...please know I support your joy and love meeting it with mine....Deb

    ♥      ♥      ♥



#3966 From: "David" <mysticspiritone@...>
Date: Fri Jul 13, 2012 12:45 am
Subject: Clarity around the Urantia Book and ACIM
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Hello David!

I listened to a podcast of yours that talked about the 4 books you felt were the
most important.
One of these is Urantia

I have been reading it, and have a couple questions that are stopping me as they
seem to say the opposite of the Course, and have disturbed me so much, I have
quit reading it until you can help. (I'm only on page 30, but concerned about
going ahead!)

1. God is personality. (page 28, paragraph 4) I thought personality is ego
(individuality/consciousness) and God is Oneness and the 2 cannot co-exist in
Truth and yet that statement makes God equal to an illusion? It is also talking
about the way to take your personality with you. But in God's realm, there is
only ONE, and a different mind, right mind and cannot exist together.  Are we
not then bringing the Truth to illusions that Course says is not even real and
is valueless and nothing? How does that compute?
That statement blew me away when I read it. And is very confusing!

2. Also it talks a lot about other universes, going into details about them.  I
thought this was ALL an illusion. So why would I need more information about
this as it seems to be just expanding the ego distraction, and saying all is NOT
unreal???

I wanted to ask before I continued, as I was really enjoying reading ACIM and it
was making a lot of sense to me. I have been searching for MANY years for an
"answer".  I really thought I'd had one when introduced to the Course.  Now that
I read the Urantia, it is conflicting with what I've learned from you and the
Course, yet you highly recommend it.  I now feel back to where I was 4 years ago
before the Course, and that is so confused, conflicted and depressed in regards
to finding the Truth.

Can you help me sort this out?

Thanks to you and all you are doing. I follow you daily in your podcasts and all
other audios and find you extremely helpful.
However, I can't continue reading the Urantia if it is just going to reverse all
my "mind training" that I've done already, and upset my apple cart all over
again, and wind up at the beginning.  At 64, I don't have time to go thru all
this all over again, and probably wont'.

Thank you for hearing me.--

_____________________________________________________________________

Beloved One,


As for the Urantia book, the last section was inspiring for me as it gave an
example and demonstration of what I was practicing with ACIM.  In many talks I
have told friends that the parable in the last section can be used by Holy
Spirit's Guidance in conjunction with ACIM, though the metaphysics of the 2
books are very different and no attempt should be made to reconcile them.  I was
told early on to bypass the first 3 sections of the Urantia Book, as my studies
with ACIM had already allowed my awareness to surpass the Helpfulness of these
sections.

Here is another questioner that had similar experiences to you and I with the
Urantia Book.  It is a common experience for ACIM students to become confused
with the first 3 sections.

Love you,

David


> I have been guided to listen to the Urantia audiobook.  At first I was just
going to listen to the final section (PART IV - The Life and Teachings of
Jesus), but then I was guided to listen to the book from start to finish.
>
>
>
> Oh my, did the forgiveness opportunities flow!
>
>
>
> I'm still on the first paper, but yesterday I was ready to cast this audio
aside, despite David writing in an earlier post that this book could prove
helpful.  My inner guidance also seems to be prompting me to continue.
>
>
>
> The first major issue?  The concept of personality survival.  My ego loves
that concept in many ways.  First of all, it seems like that if I pass the test
of this single lifetime (no reincarnation in Urantia) then I would become part
of a glorious spiritual organization and become a permanent fixture in an
evolving universe.


> Clearly personality survival is an ego construct and flies in the face of ACIM
teachings.  It provided me with a wonderful opportunity for discussion with my
wife and inner forgiveness regarding my apparently unresolved fear of God.
>
>
>
> My question is that if this is stepping stone material and is clearly
error-ridden, how can I listen to it with any confidence that I am gleaning any
truth from this book?  I suppose I could look at it the way I see Conversations
With God, which is the book that led me to ACIM.  Conversations seems to have a
lot of truth, but it is mixed with many dualistic concepts.  Is this how I
should listen to the Urantia?

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