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#90 From: "Jeffrey Everett" <jeverett@...>
Date: Fri Sep 28, 2007 10:09 pm
Subject: Re: [!! SPAM] Software ?
jbe3d
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VisualMill and Protowizard can both write toolpaths for 3rd and 4th axis for the MDX-40.
To actually run the machine a program included with the mill called DROPOUT.EXE must be used. It is actually a printer driver that writes programs to the MDX-40 buffer. One outputs the toolpaths using the MDX-40 POST from either program (prn extension) and that is then manually loaded into DROPOUT.EXE via the DROPOUT.EXE  dialogue box. Right, the MDX-40 behaves as a printer working in 3 dimensions... hey, it works... :)
 
Jeffrey Everett
 
 
----- Original Message -----
From: Dave Mucha
Sent: Friday, September 28, 2007 4:51 PM
Subject: Re: [!! SPAM] [CAMM-3] Software ?

Maybe I'm missing something ??

you lay out the parts in a CAD, but what do you use to run the machine ?

I take it VisualMill and ProtoWizard can run the mill as a 3 axis CNC
machine ?

Dave

--- In CAMM-3@yahoogroups.com, "Jeffrey Everett" <jeverett@...> wrote:
>
> The poll does not include enough softwares!
> I use Rhino for CAD, and both VisualMill and Protowizard for CAM.
Some day I'll try the software included witht he MDX-40...
> Jeffrey Everett
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Dave Mucha
> To: CAMM-3@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2007 4:24 PM
> Subject: [!! SPAM] [CAMM-3] Software ?
>
>
> Hi all,
>
> What software are you using ?
>
> I was thinking of creating a poll, but alas, did not know where to
start.
>
> Dave
>


#91 From: "Dave Mucha" <dave_mucha@...>
Date: Sat Sep 29, 2007 2:32 pm
Subject: collets and spindles
dave_mucha
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Hi all,

fall is comming and I'm lining up projects for the indoors.

one is to replace the collet with something different.

I can put an ER collet on the end of the existing shaft and gain
access to the wide variety of collet sizes.   Looks like this mod
would cost about $250.00 with a set of collets.

I can put on a router collet and be limited to 1/4" tooling (actually
1/2" and 1/4")   Looks like this could be under $100.00  I think that
a 3/8 might be available as well in that range.

I find I use 1/8" tooling so I am tossed between what would be best,
so the router collet approach may not be as appealing.

What size shank tooling do you use ?
is 1/4" shank cost effective as compared to 1/8" stuff ?

Dave

#92 From: "Jeffrey Everett" <jeverett@...>
Date: Sat Sep 29, 2007 5:48 pm
Subject: Re: [?? Probable Spam] collets and spindles
jbe3d
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Personally, I like the ER collets, makes me think I'm working on a bigger mill... lol
Seriously, the base could bolt right to the CAMM-3? That would be so nice. It would be low profile and you could put any size collet in it up to I don't know how big.
 
I'm thinking aobut starting to fix my old CAMM-3 up this winter, but with a servo system, IF I can afford it. I would like it to be 4 axis too...l
 
Jeffrey
----- Original Message -----
From: Dave Mucha
Sent: Saturday, September 29, 2007 9:32 AM
Subject: [?? Probable Spam] [CAMM-3] collets and spindles

Hi all,

fall is comming and I'm lining up projects for the indoors.

one is to replace the collet with something different.

I can put an ER collet on the end of the existing shaft and gain
access to the wide variety of collet sizes. Looks like this mod
would cost about $250.00 with a set of collets.

I can put on a router collet and be limited to 1/4" tooling (actually
1/2" and 1/4") Looks like this could be under $100.00 I think that
a 3/8 might be available as well in that range.

I find I use 1/8" tooling so I am tossed between what would be best,
so the router collet approach may not be as appealing.

What size shank tooling do you use ?
is 1/4" shank cost effective as compared to 1/8" stuff ?

Dave


#93 From: "Dave Mucha" <dave_mucha@...>
Date: Mon Oct 1, 2007 2:25 pm
Subject: Re: [?? Probable Spam] collets and spindles
dave_mucha
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--- In CAMM-3@yahoogroups.com, "Jeffrey Everett" <jeverett@...> wrote:
>
> Personally, I like the ER collets, makes me think I'm working on a
bigger mill... lol
> Seriously, the base could bolt right to the CAMM-3? That would be so
nice. It would be low profile and you could put any size collet in it
up to I don't know how big.


It looks like an ER20 would fit nicely.  the nut would be much larger
than the spindle.  that might be a problem.

an ER16 would hold 1/2" shank tooling and the nut would be just a
little larger than the existing spindle.  it would max out at 3/8
shank tooling.

An ER11 would be smaller and max out at 1/4" tooling. Not much
improvement except that it would be easy to get any size collet and
the conversion will only be slightly more than buying only one os the
existing collets.


At this point, the ER16 looks like it would be the way to go, but I
don't have enough experience making parts to know if one really needs
to get deep and get the spindle close to the work....


Any comments or suggestions ?

Dave

#94 From: "mihnikowiec" <mihnikowiec@...>
Date: Tue Oct 2, 2007 12:48 pm
Subject: can anybody tell me where can i find dr.engrave software ??
mihnikowiec
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hi all!

i would like to run roland camm-3 pnc-300 but i dont have any software
or even manual, can anybody give me a hand ?

regards

#95 From: "Dave Mucha" <dave_mucha@...>
Date: Tue Oct 2, 2007 1:35 pm
Subject: Re: can anybody tell me where can i find dr.engrave software ??
dave_mucha
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Roland gave free basic software out with the machine.

copies are available in the files section of this group.

there are many other programs with more capabilities.

Dave



--- In CAMM-3@yahoogroups.com, "mihnikowiec" <mihnikowiec@...> wrote:
>
> hi all!
>
> i would like to run roland camm-3 pnc-300 but i dont have any software
> or even manual, can anybody give me a hand ?
>
> regards
>

#96 From: "Dave Mucha" <dave_mucha@...>
Date: Tue Oct 9, 2007 3:32 am
Subject: Re: [?? Probable Spam] collets and spindles
dave_mucha
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sorry for the looong response.

the spindle shaft is 0.9 inches in diameter.

an ER-16 can hold a tool shank up to 3/8" diameter
and has a nut diameter of 1.1" diameter.  that means the collet nut
would be slightly larger in diamter than the existing spindle.

The next size smaller has a nut that is 3/4" in diamter, but the ER-11
collet only holds up to 1/4" tool shanks.

that is the question.  a nut that is smaller, so one can cut deeper in
a channel, or a nut that is larger and can use larger shank tools ?

Dave





--- In CAMM-3@yahoogroups.com, "Jeffrey Everett" <jeverett@...> wrote:
>
> Personally, I like the ER collets, makes me think I'm working on a
bigger mill... lol
> Seriously, the base could bolt right to the CAMM-3? That would be so
nice. It would be low profile and you could put any size collet in it
up to I don't know how big.
>
> I'm thinking aobut starting to fix my old CAMM-3 up this winter, but
with a servo system, IF I can afford it. I would like it to be 4 axis
too...l
>
> Jeffrey
>   ----- Original Message -----
>   From: Dave Mucha
>   To: CAMM-3@yahoogroups.com
>   Sent: Saturday, September 29, 2007 9:32 AM
>   Subject: [?? Probable Spam] [CAMM-3] collets and spindles
>
>
>   Hi all,
>
>   fall is comming and I'm lining up projects for the indoors.
>
>   one is to replace the collet with something different.
>
>   I can put an ER collet on the end of the existing shaft and gain
>   access to the wide variety of collet sizes. Looks like this mod
>   would cost about $250.00 with a set of collets.
>
>   I can put on a router collet and be limited to 1/4" tooling (actually
>   1/2" and 1/4") Looks like this could be under $100.00 I think that
>   a 3/8 might be available as well in that range.
>
>   I find I use 1/8" tooling so I am tossed between what would be best,
>   so the router collet approach may not be as appealing.
>
>   What size shank tooling do you use ?
>   is 1/4" shank cost effective as compared to 1/8" stuff ?
>
>   Dave
>

#97 From: "Kim Galibert" <kim@...>
Date: Fri Oct 12, 2007 3:56 am
Subject: problem at beginning of job, 'surge', then grrrr.....
kimgalibert
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i've had a pretty consistent error with my pnc-3100.

a job will start, machine will spin up, then the head begins to move
down it is as if there is a surge in the bit speed, the machine (i
assume) detects an error condition, then flashes lights until power is
cycled.

this happens with jobs which have previously run properly, although it
seems that some jobs are more prone to issues.  i've been creating
.rol files using modela or deskproto, i have problems with both.

it's driving me nuts, any tips?

thanks!

kim

ps: although my machine is marked pnc-3100, the controller is marked
pnc-2500.

#98 From: "Randall" <rlogan@...>
Date: Fri Oct 12, 2007 4:33 pm
Subject: Re: problem at beginning of job, 'surge', then grrrr.....
drlogan2002
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--- In CAMM-3@yahoogroups.com, "Kim Galibert" <kim@...> wrote:
>
> i've had a pretty consistent error with my pnc-3100.
>
> a job will start, machine will spin up, then the head begins to move
> down it is as if there is a surge in the bit speed, the machine (i
> assume) detects an error condition, then flashes lights until power is
> cycled.
>
> this happens with jobs which have previously run properly, although it
> seems that some jobs are more prone to issues.  i've been creating
> .rol files using modela or deskproto, i have problems with both.
>
> it's driving me nuts, any tips?
>
> thanks!
>
> kim
>
> ps: although my machine is marked pnc-3100, the controller is marked
> pnc-2500.

Hello Kim,

Great to have you join the group!

I'm just trying to understand the exact nature of your problem.  As I
understand the sequence of events are:

1) Start a job
2) The spindle starts to spin
3) The head jsut starts to move down (Z axis)
4) and error condition exists and the machine halts


Can you remember the exact LED(S) that were flashing?  This provides
an indication of the error condition that the machine detected.  It
may provide a clue to the nature of the problem.

Commonly the rails/linear bearings can become dry and the increased
friction becomes too much for the motors to handle (especially at
higher speeds).  This may be why the Z-axis starts to ramp up to
almost full speed and then stalls.

Sounds like you may need to lube the Z-axis mechanical components and
check for dust/sludge build up etc.  Very dusty machine work can
create a build up of particles that are great at absorbing grease and
oil from the critical bearing surfaces of the machine.

But see if you can find the LED(S) that are flashing - maybe the
problem is related to a bad command.

Good luck!

Randall

#99 From: "Kim Galibert" <kim@...>
Date: Fri Oct 12, 2007 5:51 pm
Subject: Re: problem at beginning of job, 'surge', then grrrr.....
kimgalibert
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> Great to have you join the group!
glad to be here, and thanks for the quick response.


> I'm just trying to understand the exact nature of your problem.
> As I understand the sequence of events are:
> 1) Start a job
> 2) The spindle starts to spin
> 3) The head jsut starts to move down (Z axis)
> 4) and error condition exists and the machine halts
that's just about exactly it.  i use copy /b to send the plot file to
the camm3.  the spindle starts, the rpm's settle down, often there is
a 10-30 second wait, then, just at the head starts to move down, the
spindle speed seems to surge up, the machine spins down, the head
returns to the upmost position.  there are only 2 led's - one on the
base unit, which is flashing rapidly, and one on the control surface,
which flashes steadily.

i opened it up, although it isn't pristine, it wasn't too nasty
inside.  i used some ptfe lube on the worm gear, which was gunky in
places, although it didn't seem to impede the movement in any way.

i have many theories, none of which really seem to cut it.  in no
particular order:

the head may be 'topping' out?  it kinda seems like the head may be
moving too far up the z axis.

the software is setting a feed or spindle rate which is making the
machine unhappy. (there are jobs which seem to work most of the time,
and others which seem to bomb almost all of the time)

returning to the home position before starting the job somehow affects
it.  (i have had occasional luck having the head start off to the side
and below the z-0 point.  in this case the head moves immediately to
the work area without issue.  unfortunately, this is unrepeatable.)

thanks again for the help,

kim

ps: do you have any good sources for bits?  i'm mainly machining
acrylic and wood.








>
>
> Can you remember the exact LED(S) that were flashing?  This provides
> an indication of the error condition that the machine detected.  It
> may provide a clue to the nature of the problem.







--- In CAMM-3@yahoogroups.com, "Randall" <rlogan@...> wrote:
>
> --- In CAMM-3@yahoogroups.com, "Kim Galibert" <kim@> wrote:
> >
> > i've had a pretty consistent error with my pnc-3100.
> >
> > a job will start, machine will spin up, then the head begins to move
> > down it is as if there is a surge in the bit speed, the machine (i
> > assume) detects an error condition, then flashes lights until power is
> > cycled.
> >
> > this happens with jobs which have previously run properly, although it
> > seems that some jobs are more prone to issues.  i've been creating
> > .rol files using modela or deskproto, i have problems with both.
> >
> > it's driving me nuts, any tips?
> >
> > thanks!
> >
> > kim
> >
> > ps: although my machine is marked pnc-3100, the controller is marked
> > pnc-2500.
>
> Hello Kim,
>
> Great to have you join the group!
>
> I'm just trying to understand the exact nature of your problem.  As I
> understand the sequence of events are:
>
> 1) Start a job
> 2) The spindle starts to spin
> 3) The head jsut starts to move down (Z axis)
> 4) and error condition exists and the machine halts
>
>
> Can you remember the exact LED(S) that were flashing?  This provides
> an indication of the error condition that the machine detected.  It
> may provide a clue to the nature of the problem.
>
> Commonly the rails/linear bearings can become dry and the increased
> friction becomes too much for the motors to handle (especially at
> higher speeds).  This may be why the Z-axis starts to ramp up to
> almost full speed and then stalls.
>
> Sounds like you may need to lube the Z-axis mechanical components and
> check for dust/sludge build up etc.  Very dusty machine work can
> create a build up of particles that are great at absorbing grease and
> oil from the critical bearing surfaces of the machine.
>
> But see if you can find the LED(S) that are flashing - maybe the
> problem is related to a bad command.
>
> Good luck!
>
> Randall
>

#100 From: "Randall" <rlogan@...>
Date: Sat Oct 13, 2007 12:14 am
Subject: Re: problem at beginning of job, 'surge', then grrrr.....
drlogan2002
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--- In CAMM-3@yahoogroups.com, "Kim Galibert" <kim@...> wrote:

> that's just about exactly it.  i use copy /b to send the plot file to
> the camm3.  the spindle starts, the rpm's settle down, often there is
> a 10-30 second wait, then, just at the head starts to move down, the
> spindle speed seems to surge up, the machine spins down, the head
> returns to the upmost position.  there are only 2 led's - one on the
> base unit, which is flashing rapidly, and one on the control surface,
> which flashes steadily.
>
> i opened it up, although it isn't pristine, it wasn't too nasty
> inside.  i used some ptfe lube on the worm gear, which was gunky in
> places, although it didn't seem to impede the movement in any way.
>
> i have many theories, none of which really seem to cut it.  in no
> particular order:
>
> the head may be 'topping' out?  it kinda seems like the head may be
> moving too far up the z axis.
>
> the software is setting a feed or spindle rate which is making the
> machine unhappy. (there are jobs which seem to work most of the time,
> and others which seem to bomb almost all of the time)
>
> returning to the home position before starting the job somehow affects
> it.  (i have had occasional luck having the head start off to the side
> and below the z-0 point.  in this case the head moves immediately to
> the work area without issue.  unfortunately, this is unrepeatable.)
>
> thanks again for the help,
>
> kim
>
> ps: do you have any good sources for bits?  i'm mainly machining
> acrylic and wood.
>

Oops, I thought I posted a response to this earlier but I must have
forgotten to hit the send button..... here it goes again....

Well, from your latest description of the problem it doesn't seem like
the lubrication was the issue.

The problem seems more to do with a range, setup, or invalid command.
If you check the files section of this group you will find the user
manual.  Download section 4 and check page 4-7 for the flashing LED
error messages - this may provide a clue as to what is happening with
your setup.  I think these error messages apply to the PNC-2500 as
well, but I'm not 100% certain.

Let us know what you find out.

Randall

#101 From: "Kim Galibert" <kim@...>
Date: Tue Oct 16, 2007 3:29 am
Subject: Re: problem at beginning of job, 'surge', then grrrr.....
kimgalibert
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so, i'm finally getting to this tonight.  unfortunately, the pnc3100
doesn't have the led indicators referred to in the manual in the files
section.

there's just 2 leds, one on the control surface, the other on the
controller, both flash, the control surface one more slowly.

would any of the group members be interested in testing one of my
output files for a fee?  (they are 3d scans of nude women, if that
makes a difference one way or the other).

that way i can tell for sure if this is a machine problem or a code issue.

thanks!

kim






--- In CAMM-3@yahoogroups.com, "Randall" <rlogan@...> wrote:
>
> --- In CAMM-3@yahoogroups.com, "Kim Galibert" <kim@> wrote:
>
> > that's just about exactly it.  i use copy /b to send the plot file to
> > the camm3.  the spindle starts, the rpm's settle down, often there is
> > a 10-30 second wait, then, just at the head starts to move down, the
> > spindle speed seems to surge up, the machine spins down, the head
> > returns to the upmost position.  there are only 2 led's - one on the
> > base unit, which is flashing rapidly, and one on the control surface,
> > which flashes steadily.
> >
> > i opened it up, although it isn't pristine, it wasn't too nasty
> > inside.  i used some ptfe lube on the worm gear, which was gunky in
> > places, although it didn't seem to impede the movement in any way.
> >
> > i have many theories, none of which really seem to cut it.  in no
> > particular order:
> >
> > the head may be 'topping' out?  it kinda seems like the head may be
> > moving too far up the z axis.
> >
> > the software is setting a feed or spindle rate which is making the
> > machine unhappy. (there are jobs which seem to work most of the time,
> > and others which seem to bomb almost all of the time)
> >
> > returning to the home position before starting the job somehow affects
> > it.  (i have had occasional luck having the head start off to the side
> > and below the z-0 point.  in this case the head moves immediately to
> > the work area without issue.  unfortunately, this is unrepeatable.)
> >
> > thanks again for the help,
> >
> > kim
> >
> > ps: do you have any good sources for bits?  i'm mainly machining
> > acrylic and wood.
> >
>
> Oops, I thought I posted a response to this earlier but I must have
> forgotten to hit the send button..... here it goes again....
>
> Well, from your latest description of the problem it doesn't seem like
> the lubrication was the issue.
>
> The problem seems more to do with a range, setup, or invalid command.
> If you check the files section of this group you will find the user
> manual.  Download section 4 and check page 4-7 for the flashing LED
> error messages - this may provide a clue as to what is happening with
> your setup.  I think these error messages apply to the PNC-2500 as
> well, but I'm not 100% certain.
>
> Let us know what you find out.
>
> Randall
>

#102 From: "neilcarter38" <neilcarter38@...>
Date: Wed Oct 24, 2007 7:17 am
Subject: G code and Rolands.
neilcarter38
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Hi all,
Having discovered this site and read through all the posts. You guys
must be the collective knowledge on Camm 3's.
So I pose a question to you. I have a Camm 3 that due to a move from
the UK to Oz I have not used. My background was in writing
postprocessors at Unigraphics but now I am looking at machining some
very small parts. cutter Dia from 1 mm to 0.2 mm.

I really need g code to the Roland. Can this be done.
and does the stepper motors run on half step?

My thinking so far was. The roland camm 3 is a great well built small
mill.
so remove all the guts and steppers and convert it to run on a Mach 3
control, which runs g codes half steps and leads to a great robust mill.

or sell it and get something else but may be compremize a great solid
machine.

Whats anyones thoughts.

I am only able to say I need to drill holes in the right place and
create very small channels in to 3 mm thick plastic, and some of it is
3d in the channels so NO STL style machining or dr engrave etc.
The spindle needs to do 12k rpm so a small mod there too.
looking forward to your views and best advice.

#103 From: "Dave Mucha" <dave_mucha@...>
Date: Wed Oct 24, 2007 8:32 pm
Subject: Re: G code and Rolands.
dave_mucha
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>
> I really need g code to the Roland. Can this be done.
> and does the stepper motors run on half step?

I think the display on mine is good to 2 decimal places and that is
in mm.  so 0.01mm ?

if that is the standard resolution of the machine, do you need better
than that ?


Before going to the cost and work of swapping out things, I would
recomend you test the unit to see if it will do what you need just
the way it works.

I'm happy with mine, but have been toying with the idea of selling it
as I am getting close to the end of my Mini-Mill CNC project.


Dave

#104 From: Neil Carter <neilcarter38@...>
Date: Fri Oct 26, 2007 6:03 am
Subject: Re: Re: G code and Rolands.
neilcarter38
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HI Dave.
Thanks for your reply, I do not have my roland working or have any cam software currently linked up to it. What do you use for programming and what sort of post do you use? does it write out as Hpgl code.
Thanks.

----- Original Message ----
From: Dave Mucha <dave_mucha@...>
To: CAMM-3@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2007 6:32:45 AM
Subject: [CAMM-3] Re: G code and Rolands.


>
> I really need g code to the Roland. Can this be done.
> and does the stepper motors run on half step?

I think the display on mine is good to 2 decimal places and that is
in mm. so 0.01mm ?

if that is the standard resolution of the machine, do you need better
than that ?

Before going to the cost and work of swapping out things, I would
recomend you test the unit to see if it will do what you need just
the way it works.

I'm happy with mine, but have been toying with the idea of selling it
as I am getting close to the end of my Mini-Mill CNC project.

Dave



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#105 From: "jmoo14" <jay.meldrum@...>
Date: Thu Nov 1, 2007 6:16 pm
Subject: G code converted to Camm-3 Code?
jmoo14
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Has anyone heard of, or created a program that would convert G code to
the Camm-3 code?

#106 From: "david876474" <danielbriggs@...>
Date: Thu Nov 1, 2007 6:20 pm
Subject: Re: G code converted to Camm-3 Code?
david876474
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--- In CAMM-3@yahoogroups.com, "jmoo14" <jay.meldrum@...> wrote:
>
> Has anyone heard of, or created a program that would convert G code to
> the Camm-3 code?
>

I can't answer that, but I'm sure the CAMM3's use HPGL-2 or something....
I dont' know if thats any help.


Dan ;-)

#107 From: "Jeffrey Everett" <jeverett@...>
Date: Thu Nov 1, 2007 8:14 pm
Subject: Re: [!! SPAM] G code converted to Camm-3 Code?
jbe3d
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You could always, IF you have a CAM program with this capability, run the gcode as a reverse post then repost out to the camm3...  eh, probably a longshot...
 
Jeffrey Everett
 
----- Original Message -----
From: jmoo14
Sent: Thursday, November 01, 2007 1:16 PM
Subject: [!! SPAM] [CAMM-3] G code converted to Camm-3 Code?

Has anyone heard of, or created a program that would convert G code to
the Camm-3 code?


#108 From: "jmoo14" <jay.meldrum@...>
Date: Fri Nov 2, 2007 2:05 am
Subject: Vista Drivers for PNC-3000?
jmoo14
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I cannot find the Vista drivers for PNC-3000, anyone have them, or
have an alternative driver that would work.

#109 From: "bcdeg2004" <bcdeg2004@...>
Date: Thu Nov 22, 2007 11:06 pm
Subject: Re: can anybody tell me where can i find dr.engrave software ??
bcdeg2004
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I have posted Dr Engrave in the files section. I found it on one of
the Roland websites. Each country seems to have different software
available on its Roland website.


--- In CAMM-3@yahoogroups.com, "Dave Mucha" <dave_mucha@...> wrote:
>
> Roland gave free basic software out with the machine.
>
> copies are available in the files section of this group.
>
> there are many other programs with more capabilities.
>
> Dave
>
>
>
> --- In CAMM-3@yahoogroups.com, "mihnikowiec" <mihnikowiec@> wrote:
> >
> > hi all!
> >
> > i would like to run roland camm-3 pnc-300 but i dont have any
software
> > or even manual, can anybody give me a hand ?
> >
> > regards
> >
>

#110 From: d day <daykid2@...>
Date: Wed Dec 5, 2007 11:46 pm
Subject: software err
daykid2
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Software  Mastercam ver9
will not start mill err code missing or bad hasp
is this fatal or is there a work around?




      
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#111 From: "Bill Griffin" <bill@...>
Date: Fri Dec 7, 2007 3:07 am
Subject: camm 3 machine, new to lst
bilg63475
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Hi

My name is Bill Griffin and I have been playing with cnc machines and
retrofitting the for about 15 years. I have recently found myself in
possessions of a camm3 mill. I am not familiar with the Roland
language and im not sure I want to bother learning it as I am used to
using machines with standard g-code.

The machine appears to be healthy as I am able to home it, jog it
around etc. Ha anyone retrofitted these machines with any of the
hobbyist level controller available out there? What is the original
control and motors worth to someone as spare pars? What do these
machines sell for used?

Thanks
Bill Griffin

#112 From: "Dave Mucha" <dave_mucha@...>
Date: Fri Dec 7, 2007 4:25 am
Subject: Re: camm 3 machine, new to lst
dave_mucha
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Hi Bill,

I LOVE the pendant on the thing.  makes life easy for manual use.

I HATE the collet set-up.  especially since the collets are so
expensive.  I am getting the bits needed to make mine an ER 16 collet
so it can hold up to 3/8" tools.    There is pleanty of room to modify
the spindle.  I just hope I don't destroy the bearings during the
process.   look for photos in the new year.

I know there was a guy on CCED who gutted the electronics and replaced
  them with hobby type drivers.  since the motors are not very big, you
can use the hobby-cnc or xylotex stuff.  or go for the Gecko is you
have a large wallet.

The spindle is not all that powerful, so don't expect to get metal
cutting and high speed cutting out of this machine.

As for used priced, I'd sell mine for $3,000 today.  I think there was
a guy on E-bay who sold one for $5,000 in the past year.  On the low
end, I think $2,000 might be it.  There are not that many and those of
us who have them don't seem to sell them.

If there were a lot more, that would be great.  Heck, if there was a
market, I'd offer either new or modified spindles with the ER collet
system.

Dave



--- In CAMM-3@yahoogroups.com, "Bill Griffin" <bill@...> wrote:
>
> Hi
>
> My name is Bill Griffin and I have been playing with cnc machines and
> retrofitting the for about 15 years. I have recently found myself in
> possessions of a camm3 mill. I am not familiar with the Roland
> language and im not sure I want to bother learning it as I am used to
> using machines with standard g-code.
>
> The machine appears to be healthy as I am able to home it, jog it
> around etc. Ha anyone retrofitted these machines with any of the
> hobbyist level controller available out there? What is the original
> control and motors worth to someone as spare pars? What do these
> machines sell for used?
>
> Thanks
> Bill Griffin
>

#113 From: "bcdeg2004" <bcdeg@...>
Date: Fri Dec 7, 2007 5:13 pm
Subject: Re: camm 3 machine, new to lst
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Hi Guys,

I bought my PNC-3000 very recently on eBay (UK) for £600, and I think
mine is a bargain.

As a beginner, I have made the effort to learn my way round a bit of
some of the Roland software (in the files section here and on their
websites), but I'm not that familiar with any other CAD progs so it
was not such a big deal as it is if you do already have and know your
favourite progs.
For what it's worth, I thought the Roland S/W engraving capabilities
were good / easy, but the general machining stuff was less fun. It
seemed to want to do a lot of things for me automatically, whereas I
would have preferred to actually see and study the g-codes and then
get fewer surprises when I run the thing.

So I want to keep it in OEM spec for engraving, and to be able to
inject it directly with g-codes for other stuff.
Tricky.
But I've looked at the circuit diagrams and I think with a single PCB
track cut, it should be possible to tri-state the big I/O IC's
drivers and then feed my step and direction signals into the PCB at
TTL levels so as to use the existing motor drivers. It looks to me
like the XYZ counters will also still work at the same time which
will be cool if it does work.

This wont do the 1/2 stepping etc that you can do with Geckos or the
like, but it might just keep me happy.

And no, I have NOT done this yet, so there could be some fatal flaw
in my thinking, but the main problem is escaping the wife and kids to
go and play.
Has anyone else done similar modifications to those I'm planning?


Steve

#114 From: CAMM-3@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tue Feb 5, 2008 7:17 pm
Subject: New file uploaded to CAMM-3
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Hello,

This email message is a notification to let you know that
a file has been uploaded to the Files area of the CAMM-3
group.

   File        : /PNC-3100.pdf
   Uploaded by : david876474 <danielbriggs@...>
   Description : PNC-3100 User Manual

You can access this file at the URL:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/CAMM-3/files/PNC-3100.pdf

To learn more about file sharing for your group, please visit:
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Regards,

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#115 From: "david876474" <danielbriggs@...>
Date: Tue Feb 5, 2008 7:26 pm
Subject: Does anyone have the missing chapters of the PNC-3000 manual?
david876474
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Hi all,

Does anyone have the missing chapters of the Roland PNC-3000 manual that they
could
post please? I could do with looking up a couple of bits.
i.e. the chapters 1,3,5,7,8,9

BTW: I came across a copy of the PNC-3100 manual which I posted, as it may be
useful to
someone somewhere.

Also, I've got some other bits and bobs I'll post which I dug up on a search
from along
time ago when I was collected everything I could get my hands on for the CAMM3
(software, updates, manuals etc. etc.). But I think we have nearly a complete
set on the
files section, so I don't think it'll help that much.

Also, one thing that maybe of benefit to some, is Modela Player 4. I managed to
get hold
of a copy from a company, and tried it out on my machine. (PNC-3000) however
from
what I remember it kept halting on errors etc, but I'll give it another whirl
and post back
my findings ;-) But I'm quite busy at the mo, so that might not be for a few
days/weeks.
Again, when I find that blasted CD I'll zip it and upload it :-D


Dan :-)

#116 From: "Randall" <rlogan@...>
Date: Wed Feb 6, 2008 10:08 pm
Subject: Re: Does anyone have the missing chapters of the PNC-3000 manual?
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--- In CAMM-3@yahoogroups.com, "david876474" <danielbriggs@...> wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
> Does anyone have the missing chapters of the Roland PNC-3000 manual
that they could post please? I could do with looking up a couple of bits.
> i.e. the chapters 1,3,5,7,8,9
>

Hi Dan,

I can post the remaining chapters of the PNC-3000 manual but it will
have to wait until at least tomorrow (and maybe even Friday). before I
can get to it.

Hope you can hold tight 'till then,

Randall  :-)

#117 From: "david876474" <danielbriggs@...>
Date: Wed Feb 6, 2008 10:15 pm
Subject: Re: Does anyone have the missing chapters of the PNC-3000 manual?
david876474
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--- In CAMM-3@yahoogroups.com, "Randall" <rlogan@...> wrote:
>
> --- In CAMM-3@yahoogroups.com, "david876474" <danielbriggs@> wrote:
> >
> > Hi all,
> >
> > Does anyone have the missing chapters of the Roland PNC-3000 manual
> that they could post please? I could do with looking up a couple of bits.
> > i.e. the chapters 1,3,5,7,8,9
> >
>
> Hi Dan,
>
> I can post the remaining chapters of the PNC-3000 manual but it will
> have to wait until at least tomorrow (and maybe even Friday). before I
> can get to it.
>
> Hope you can hold tight 'till then,
>
> Randall  :-)
>


Yeah, no probs mate! There's no immediate rush.
A bad thing happened to my PNC-3000 yesterday, the drive belt snapped!!!
I can't find a spare part anywhere, I phoned a firm in Oldham trying to track
one down
that's suitable, and I'm waiting to hear back from Roland DG UK if they have any
spares :-(

But if anyone else on here has a spare belt for the drive, chime up, and I'll
pay good
money for it! I need to get some things CNC'd to post out the the USA as quick
as
possible.


Dan :-)

#118 From: "Jeffrey Everett" <jeverett@...>
Date: Thu Feb 7, 2008 10:02 am
Subject: Re: [!! SPAM] Re: Does anyone have the missing chapters of the PNC-3000 manual?
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I have a spare belt, but it's in storage and will take me some time to find...
not to mention the amount of snow and temperature right now...
 
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--- In CAMM-3@yahoogroups.com, "Randall" <rlogan@...> wrote:
>
> --- In CAMM-3@yahoogroups.com, "david876474" <danielbriggs@> wrote:
> >
> > Hi all,
> >
> > Does anyone have the missing chapters of the Roland PNC-3000 manual
> that they could post please? I could do with looking up a couple of bits.
> > i.e. the chapters 1,3,5,7,8,9
> >
>
> Hi Dan,
>
> I can post the remaining chapters of the PNC-3000 manual but it will
> have to wait until at least tomorrow (and maybe even Friday). before I
> can get to it.
>
> Hope you can hold tight 'till then,
>
> Randall :-)
>

Yeah, no probs mate! There's no immediate rush.
A bad thing happened to my PNC-3000 yesterday, the drive belt snapped!!!
I can't find a spare part anywhere, I phoned a firm in Oldham trying to track one down
that's suitable, and I'm waiting to hear back from Roland DG UK if they have any spares :-(

But if anyone else on here has a spare belt for the drive, chime up, and I'll pay good
money for it! I need to get some things CNC'd to post out the the USA as quick as
possible.

Dan :-)


#119 From: "Dave Mucha" <dave_mucha@...>
Date: Thu Feb 7, 2008 1:00 pm
Subject: Re: Does anyone have the missing chapters of the PNC-3000 manual?
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I'll check my belt size. it appears it should be a common size ?

I would go to McMaster Carr or

https://sdp-si.com/eStore/

Dave

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