... more ... words I would ... that I am ... The better question is - what would lead you to stay where you are/were? :) That's really what it comes down to,...
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Horst Klaus
niag.sec.humanists@...
Nov 19, 2008 1:39 am
Hi Edith, I may not be living in Toronto, but I can give you a few ideas. As the president of the "Niagara Secular Humanists", I suggest you check out our...
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RVB
rvb_is
Nov 19, 2008 5:29 am
Hi there Edith, I think the most important thing you have shown here is a willingness to look beyond what you were taught to believe as truth. It is good to...
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Dan Roper
dicoll3000
Nov 19, 2008 2:25 pm
An interesting article in The Wall Street Journal: http://online.wsj.com/article_email/SB122696699813835335-lMyQjAxMDI4MjE2ODkxNjg2Wj.html Dan Roper...
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Brett McKenzie
mcshaggy
Nov 19, 2008 4:55 pm
You can't really collect the beliefs of self-professed atheists, because the only thing we have in common, really, is a non-belief. Forums like this are...
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ehdsmith@...
zxitian
Nov 19, 2008 7:11 pm
Hello Brett, Thanks for your most though provoking comments.? While I know that I can't really collect the beliefs of self-professed atheists, I am certain...
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ehdsmith@...
zxitian
Nov 19, 2008 7:16 pm
Thanks Dan ... From: Dan Roper <dicoll3000@...> To: CanadianAtheists <CanadianAtheist@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Wed, 19 Nov 2008 9:25 am Subject:...
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ehdsmith@...
zxitian
Nov 19, 2008 7:22 pm
Hi, Jeff, Thank for your comments and your suggestions.?I? question continually and will continue to and look beyond what I have been taught to believe is...
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ehdsmith@...
zxitian
Nov 19, 2008 7:24 pm
Thanks Horst, I will do that.....Edith ... From: Horst Klaus <niag.sec.humanists@...> To: CanadianAtheist@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tue, 18 Nov 2008 8:39 pm ...
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ehdsmith@...
zxitian
Nov 19, 2008 7:25 pm
Thanks for our welcome and insight......Edith ... From: Jack <jonyahoo@...> To: CanadianAtheist@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tue, 18 Nov 2008 7:32 pm Subject:...
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randalldek
Nov 19, 2008 7:44 pm
Hello Edith Welcome. I think many of us who call ourselves atheists have travelled a similar journey as you. I was raised in a fairly devout family - went to...
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ehdsmith@...
zxitian
Nov 19, 2008 8:56 pm
Hello Randall, It was really good to hear from you and to learn that someone from a similar background has come to the conclusions that I am slowly coming to.?...
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Brett McKenzie
mcshaggy
Nov 20, 2008 1:54 am
I just read recently that Anne Rice had returned to Catholicism after being an atheist for many years. However, she said, "It's too depressing, being an...
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Jack
jonovision_man
Nov 20, 2008 2:27 am
... I could no more decide to believe in God than I could decide to believe that water isn't wet. She sounds like a classic case of "belief in belief" as...
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Brett McKenzie
mcshaggy
Nov 20, 2008 3:08 am
Dude, I'm with you. I'm married to a Catholic. And was raised Baptist. I've seen the corrosion shame and guilt can have on a psyche. And choosing to...
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ehdsmith@...
zxitian
Nov 20, 2008 5:02 pm
Hi, Brett, I had read that Anne Rice had returned to Catholicism but I did not realize that she had been an atheist. I wonder if she really and truly was and...
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ehdsmith@...
zxitian
Nov 20, 2008 5:49 pm
Jono, I agree that Catholicism is much more depressing then atheism and why anyone would ever go back to it after leaving is beyond me. Edith ... [Non-text...
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Deb
readzalot
Nov 21, 2008 5:50 am
Anne Rice lost a child, and so likely she feels that Catholicism give her hope that she will see her child again in heaven. In that case, maybe atheism is more...
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Dan Roper
dicoll3000
Nov 21, 2008 2:07 pm
My friend Cop is an excellent debater and writer. Here he addresses the uneven distribution of religious messages across the planet. I personally prefer such...
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rvb_is
Nov 21, 2008 2:47 pm
Okay I found this website firstchurchofatheism.com and apparently you can sign up for free to become an atheist minister for life. They said on the website...
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ehdsmith@...
zxitian
Nov 21, 2008 4:55 pm
Interesting and very likely her reasoning.....Edith ... [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]...
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ehdsmith@...
zxitian
Nov 21, 2008 5:00 pm
I agree and if there is a god he/she would have a plan of salvation for all people's and not just a few of a small Semitic tribe, why would he/she promise them...
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* Pyrolistical
pyrogx1133@...
Nov 21, 2008 7:16 pm
I think this is the wrong battle. Atheism is not a religion. We should instead fight for non-minsters to allow marriage between people. Marriage and religion...
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Brett McKenzie
mcshaggy
Nov 21, 2008 7:31 pm
I looked at it and signed up. I didn't pay to get the certificate, though. Didn't seem worth it because I didn't really plan on doing any weddings. Except...
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Dan Roper
dicoll3000
Nov 21, 2008 7:50 pm
These non-ministers already exist. They are called Justice-Of-The-Peace. They have the power of the government vested and you can engage (hire) them for a...
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ehdsmith@...
zxitian
Nov 21, 2008 7:51 pm
I agree and while I am not yet ready to say that I am an atheist, I would agree that Marriage should not be related unless that is what the individuals...
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Dan Roper
dicoll3000
Nov 21, 2008 10:10 pm
Revelation--receiving direct communication from gods--has failed on a colossal scale over human history. First of all, it is the basis for a myriad of...
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RVB
rvb_is
Nov 22, 2008 1:24 am
Okay, Dan, I know about JP's performing weddings. I am looking at ... From: Brett McKenzie <mcshaggy@...> Subject: RE: [CanadianAtheist] Atheist...
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RVB
rvb_is
Nov 22, 2008 1:44 am
(sorry my cat stepped on my keyboard and sent that last message accidentally) Dan I know about JP's, I am just looking at what other options there might be...
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Brett McKenzie
mcshaggy
Nov 22, 2008 1:54 am
There's certainly a guilt factor, and I know I have nothing to feel bad about. However, an overdeveloped sense of shame is one of the holdovers from my youth...
