It is absurd for evolutionists to ridicule creationists for believing God made everything out of nothing while evolutionists maintain that somehow nothing turned itself into something.
Instead of endless philosophical discussions to prove a point, experiment becomes the final arbitrator of truth - a successful approach. The issue becomes a bit sticky when discussing origins. How do we test the theory of evolution? We don't have the luxury of having a miniature universe with eons of time in the corner of a laboratory. So this leaves both evolutionists and creationists in same the boat. No absolute way to objectivity test their assertions. No eyewitnesses... Both are left to propose a model and then compare it with nature for consistency. Notice too, that good theories are falsifiable. Now consider the theory of evolution ... How can it be proved false? What fraction of the theory of evolution is open to invalidation, some small detail, or the entire principle? The approach seems to be, "look, you're here and there is no intelligent designer so evolution must be true!". Is this science or something else?
THE CREATION MODEL: http://www.trueorigins.org/creatheory.asp
Life arose...
1. By the acts of a Creator. Key prediction: Design implies a Designer.
2. Creation of basic plant and animal types with
characteristics complete in first representative Kinds.
3. Variation and speciation limited within each created kind.
4. Predictions concerning the fossil record:
a. Sudden appearance in great variety of highly complex forms.
b. Sudden appearance of each created type with characteristics complete.
c. Sharp boundaries separating major taxonomic groups.
d. No clear transitional forms between the Kinds.
Perhaps consider the EVOLUTION MODEL;)
Life arose by Chance in and of itself.
Key prediction: Abiogenesis, e.g. the generation of life from non-living matter.
Now more commonly known as "spontaneous generation."
tin Now--just how would our boy pi know that unless he was monitoring the posts on THIS LIST Pi As predicted, Newbie is monitoring the posts on this list.
tin Two errors in Piboy's statement- the word "extreme." ANY alteration in velocity or gravity alters time to some degree. The second is the "to any extent."
For the lurkers--you will run across "Robert Baty" in these creation/evolution groups. Robert has written a silly challenge to YEC (Young Earth creation) that