This group is not that active anymore... I got in on the tail end apparently. When do you finish school and sir for the bar? How old are you? What are you going to do, what do you need, etc? I wish to hell I had a trust fund to work with...
On Dec 11, 2010 10:36 PM, "Anne" <rfs1215@...
> Absolutely. WHich is why I want to know about how other people deal with it and how thier cases are handled, and know that their kids are ok.
> --- On Sat, 12/11/10, Liora Farkovitz <justice4liora@...
> From: Liora Farkovitz <justice4liora@...
> Subject: Re: [FAMILYCOURTREFORM] Re: Advocates this parent needs help, please!!!
> To: "AllaboutR" <rfs1215@...
> Cc: FAMILYCOURTREFORM@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Saturday, December 11, 2010, 10:12 PM
> You know it is not just CA or FL it is all over the country
> On Dec 11, 2010 9:57 PM, "AllaboutR" <rfs1215@...
>> UPDATE PLEASE.
>> As you know, these people cannot be exposed for hurting families unless we keep their names relevant and accountable. I WANT TO KNOW WHAT HAPPENED NEXT.
>> --- In FAMILYCOURTREFORM@yahoogroups.com
, JUSTICEforADJANI@... wrote:
>>> Dear Advocate groups,
>>> My post are being "bounced back to me" I hope you get this, long but VIP
>>> Plea of help from
>>> another grieving Parent "not from FL but also, caught up in FL abusive
>>> process and FL lies.
>>> I appreciate any help or support you can give, this mother. Denied visits,
>>> monitored calls, Threatened, You might as well get use to this,because is not
>>> about to change. Same threat
>>> as me, my introduction, to brutal FL system. Thank you! Sila,
>>> Dear Elizabeth,
>>> Thank you for contacting me. I relate well to your pain. I'm very sorry you
>>> had to go thru the
>>> E-N-D-L-E-S-S "fl" Abusive process injustice. Our cases mirrors the violence
>>> and tragedy. I am Fwd your story to Advocate for support; given my humble
>>> means. I'd refer you to groups
>>> in your area but, I question their effectiveness due to silence. Feel free
>>> to write any time,
>>> you do not walk alone! STRENGTH COMES IN UNION...blessings, "Sila"
>>> Forwarded Message:
>>> Subj: Fw: please help Date: 10/27/2005 9:35:56 P.M. Eastern Standard Time
>>> From: _edobson1@..._ (mailto:edobson1@
>>> _ibuy.1@..._ (mailto:ibuy.1@
...) , _cj7scrambler@..._
...) , _nativeamerican252003@..._
...) , _jacqueline614@..._ (mailto:jacqueline614@
>>> _adjanisila@..._ (mailto:adjanisila@
...) , _ONEDAV1FL@..._
...) Sent from the Internet _(Details)_
>>> Is there a way you can help me with what is going on in my life .I seem to
>>> have no rights. please read the letter below and see if you can help I have
>>> tried everything including writing to the white house with no luck. tell me
>>> because he has money and I don't this is fair. Is there anybody out there that
>>> can help me. Any advise or agency recommendation would be appreciated
>>> Elizabeth Dobson
>>> 1250 Woodcrest Drive
>>> Daytona Beach,Fl 32114
>>> _edobson1@..._ (mailto:edobson1@
>>> I am enclosing some details of what I am going through. I can find no help
>>> with Lawyers or anywhere I turn I have even wrote to the white house.
>>> Presently I am one step away from losing anything I might have. I seem to have no
>>> rights what so ever and the court is listening to someone who has abused me,
>>> drugs and kept me away from having any bond with my children.you are my last
>>> Elizabeth Dobson
>>> P.S. I Have tried everything
>>> I am not sure what to write here but I can only give you the truth.
>>> I left pennsylvania in feb 2001 to visit my daughter in Va to get away from
>>> a terrible situtation at home where my ex was harassing me and threatening to
>>> kill me because I found his drugs and took pictures of it and showed his
>>> family. this started in august because I found out about his affair with the
>>> women he is with now.
>>> my youngest daughter had described a pill box that he had some white powder
>>> in and a straw.she also described small white pills. his family didn't
>>> beleive me but went right to him he came home from work and was over me by the
>>> sink he had the look of a crazed person in his eyes. he told me he was going to
>>> kill me for what I had done.he went to hit me and I pushed and slapped him.
>>> he called the police and said he was abused by me. when they got there they
>>> had me in the living room with my children while he was in the kitchen with
>>> the other officer which he had known.I told the officer what had happened and
>>> he could arrest me if he wanted to but I was defending myself. I told him how
>>> my daughter had seen the drugs and he looked me right in the eye and said"
>>> maam we are not here for that" they never asked him to empty his pockets or to
>>> even leave. they told me I should take the children and leave the premises.I
>>> told the officer "no this is my home and I have no where to take the children
>>> " he told me he could not make him leave the home. when they left I put the
>>> kids to bed and stayed away from him . he threatened me again and I locked
>>> myself in the bedroom and called domestic violence hotline where I was on the
>>> phone with them half the night.I did not sleep that night in fear he would
>>> break the door down and kill me. there was violence in the past and I knew he
>>> had guns in the basement.
>>> the next morning I told him he had to leave I could not live like this . he
>>> packed and left.I didn't know he had called the ultilities and was having
>>> them shut off the end of the month.I found out when the electric company had
>>> called the house and asked if I wanted the electric to continue in my name.they
>>> had explained that he called them to terminate service so I called all the
>>> other ultilities and found out he had done the same.I had copied the books in
>>> the store showing all his income and had them hidden between the mattresses
>>> of my bed along with the pictures. he got into the house while I was at the
>>> store and took them.he told me he would use the pictures against me now.he
>>> would have everything and I would be homeless he wanted the house sold and me out
>>> of it and that he would have the children and I am going to wind up with
>>> nothing.he then took the checkbook for the business and had it at his mothers
>>> house it was at this point I no longer went into the store. he came over to the
>>> house yelling that I had to run the store and I told him I didn't .I was not
>>> going to sit there and not be able to have any money to live I had to go get
>>> a job. I went and applied in over 30 places with no answer until I had a
>>> friend call the store and say I was applying for a job and they wanted a
>>> reference for me. he had his mother sitting in there selling carpet and she told
>>> them I was a totally untrustworthy that I had stole money from the business and
>>> I should not be hired.
>>> I told him I wanted child and spousal support he said he wanted it legal and
>>> I better do it quick so I went to the courthouse and filled out the papers.
>>> the hearing was in jan of 2001. he was served with the papers and came to the
>>> house in a rage . I told him I did what you asked me to do. he reversed
>>> everything and said he never told me to do this.he said I will never get spousal
>>> support and I will never be able to fight him with no money.I told him the
>>> only one he is hurting is the children. he told me he will have the children and
>>> she will be there mother.I asked him to leave he again threatened to harm me
>>> and I told him I would call the police. he told to go ahead they think your
>>> crazy anyway remember I grew up in this town and I can do what I want to you
>>> and you have no one to turn to.he started breaking into the house when I
>>> wasn't there and the police said because his name is on the deed there is nothing
>>> I can do he has every right to enter the home even though he doesn't live
>>> I went to several lawyers and they told me that this was an involved case and
>>> a few turned it down because they didn't have the time to give it.I found
>>> one that took it and wanted 800.00 up front I gave it to him and he did nothing
>>> .when it came time for the hearing he told me I didn't need him there it was
>>> just support and I will get what I was asking for which I didn't.when my
>>> husband filed for divorce Ihad told my lawyer I to sue on grounds of adultry he
>>> told me not to do that to let him pay for the divorce because I wouldn't have
>>> the money to pay for it myself I looked at this lawyer and asked what I had
>>> paid for which he told me the his time. meanwhile my husband refused to pay
>>> any of the bills which amounted to 2,000 a month.he said I would have to find
>>> a way they are all in my name and he don't have to pay for a thing anymore.my
>>> children told me to use there savings accounts because they hasd seen me
>>> crying and talking to my older daughter about not knowing what Iw as gonna do
>>> and christmas was here and I had nothing for the kids.I did the best I could at
>>> that point.
>>> in jan my son in law came to send a few days with me and he had seen what he
>>> was doing. he had broken in again and took most of the things in the
>>> basement and the lawn mower and some rugs that where stored in there.I called the
>>> police and they still wouldn't do anything ebven though he has been out of the
>>> house since august they refuseed to do anything.all I could do at this time
>>> was cry.I finally had to use the childrens savings to pay what I could of the
>>> bills and the car so it wouldn't get taken for not paying it off. I had come
>>> to the end of my rope. I had told my son in law if things go bad with the
>>> hearing I would have no choice but to let him have the kids so they have a roof
>>> over there head.I wa told to write a statement that it would be temporary
>>> until I found a place to live. I wrote it up and gave it to my daughter to bring
>>> to the lawyer because everything went wrong at the hearing. first he claimed
>>> all he made was 12,000 for the year.I tried to tell them it was a lie but
>>> the hearings officer didn't want to hear it.I had asked for spousal support and
>>> his lawyer said that I may be a bigamist and I couldn't beleive it.the
>>> hearing officer just threw it aside.he determined that I was to get 34.00 a week
>>> per child I told him that was crazy and that I would let my children live with
>>> my ex until I got on my feet. again I was told to write it out and send it
>>> to my lawyer to have a copy sent to my ex. which the lawyer received that
>>> afternoon.which they claim they never got.
>>> He took the children (which I thought maybe he would see what he was doing
>>> and stop but he didn't) I had my older daughter there because I couldn't be
>>> there when he took them I would have probably been put in jail so I made sure I
>>> was not there .after they were gone I came home I felt like my heart was
>>> ripped out.the next day I left and went to Virginia.I told my older daughter to
>>> take my furniture and things bring them to her house and store them in her
>>> basement and attic until I find a place to live.I figured I had better get
>>> out of the house because I felt Iw as in real danger now without the children
>>> there with me.
>>> I arrived at my daughters in virginia late that evening, spent some time
>>> with my grandchildren the next day and was feeling a little better.the following
>>> day my daughter back in pa called and said that he broke the door in on the
>>> house and changed all the locks.so now I was really homeless.I left my
>>> daughters the next day and didn't know where I was gonna go but couldn't stay with
>>> her becaause Iw as not got be a burden on my child like that.so I came to
>>> florida to spend some time with friends that use to live near us in pa.
>>> When I Came to Florida i stayed with friends from back home that had moved
>>> down here. they found me a room to rent for 35.00 aweek and I found a job
>>> waitressing. I I was or thought I was talking with my children with e mail but
>>> it just didn't seem like the way they would answer They thought I was in texas
>>> and it had to be that way so he wouldn't find me.they where always asking
>>> where I was and that I was taking there father to court.I didn't know what they
>>> meant until I recieved papers in the last week of april of 2001 saying he
>>> wanted to sell the house and get custody of the children.the hearing was on the
>>> 14th of may there was no way I could do anything in such little time.I wrote
>>> the court telling them I objected to the selling of the house by the realtor
>>> he was choosing because she was a close family friend and would not be
>>> honest about the sale it went though anyway I also protested the custody but got
>>> nowhere with that either he wa allowed to sell the house without me and the
>>> court gave him full custody of the children and Iw as to recieve supervised
>>> visitation but a person of his choice.. This was crazy I did nothing wrong but
>>> yet evrything was being taken away.
>>> he harassed mty daughter until she gave him my furniture and I recieved a
>>> envelope with pictures of our wedding and some old pictures from an album my
>>> daughter was keeping for me. I guess this was to let me know he had my
>>> stuff.what she had told me was he wouldn't leave her alone and had the cops at her
>>> door and showed receipts for the items that I hold the bills for now. I had
>>> wrote his lawyer and told him I wanted fifty percent of everything in the
>>> marriage including the business. I had also wanted it stated that I could resume
>>> the use of my maiden name.I made a list of the things he had taken from my
>>> Daughter and my personal belongings that he had taken I also told the lawyer
>>> that mr.Dobson knew exactly where I was and lied about not knowing my where
>>> abouts because I know these friends I stayed with called him and he had sent me
>>> that envelope with his return address on it..I never heard from his attorney
>>> again. I wrote him again and wanted to know what was going on with the divorce
>>> and again stating what I wanted from the divorce settlement and that I
>>> wanted alimony. I still got no response he had also had my daughter brandy call
>>> collect which I couldn't accept because this was not my phone or home.he also
>>> gave someone the number because I got a call threatening me about the bills
>>> that where owed and how I was going to jail for them.there were two men on the
>>> phone and they told me the police were on the way and I would be arrested.the
>>> people I wa staying with were not happy that he was doing this with there
>>> number and had to have it changed and unpublished so it would stop.I didn't
>>> call there because I felt it would only cause trouble for the children.I tried
>>> on christmas but he would not let me speak to them.then in I believe it was
>>> july of 2003. the sheriff was at the home trying to serve me with papers. I
>>> called the sheriff to pick up the papers and it was for support of the
be held in flagler county court. I moved in with a girlfriend because I
>>> felt I was causing these people trouble.I went and got an attorney to represent
>>> me and they awarded him no support. My daughter Brandy was writing me and
>>> telling me she missed and loved me. I was afraid to answer her letters because
>>> nothing I sent was getting to them I was writing and sending them to my older
>>> Daughters home until he found out and whatever he said to her.she would not
>>> accept the letters anymore and I haven't heard from here since.I had sent
>>> these girls cards for christmas and there birthdays and they never recived them
>>> and he claims I never sent them so I stopped sending them.
>>> Feeling like a drifter and nowhere to go I rented a trailer in bunnell
>>> where I lived by myself. I never changed my post office box so I could get the
>>> letters from my Daughter.in one letter she had said they where in florida on
>>> vacation .they knew where bunnell was but not where I lived. I thought he
>>> could have wrote and told me he would be here and where I could meet to see the
>>> children but I was told after the fact of them being here. I wrote the lawyer
>>> again asking again about the divorce and the settlement but he never answered
>>> again. I moved to Daytona in june of 2004. I gave the children my address
>>> and hoped for the best within a few months the sheriff was at my door again
>>> serving me with papers for support. this time I called and tried to talk to him
>>> and explained I have no money and its more important for the children to have
>>> a relationship with me. I am there mother and want to be a part of there
>>> life .he told me I have no right to my children that the court took my rights
>>> away.that lori is there mother and she will make all the decisions concerning
>>> my children.I told him I am there mother and he has kept me away too long.he
>>> told me that I owed him for tools that where in the basement I told him he
>>> broke into the home two days after I left and I had no idea what happen to his
>>> tools they where in the basement.he wasn't concerned about talking about the
>>> children just his things and I told him after about thirty minutes of his none
>>> stop ranting that I called to talk to him about the girls not his
>>> belongings.I was told he will keep me away from them and I will never saee them again
>>> they hate me and he has told them how crazy I am and how I don't want anything
>>> to do with them.I asked him how he can hurt these children like this .his
>>> response was he nots hurting them he's in charge and it will be his way and
>>> there is no talking I have no legal right to the children. I told him I didn't
>>> want to fight with him I just want a relationship with my children. that we
>>> don't have to be enemies for I did nothing wrong and he must stop this for the
>>> sake of the children. he finally said he didn't care if I gave him twenty
>>> dollars a week.I told him I wanted to talk to the girls on the phone.he told me
>>> to call on saturday.
>>> PHONE CALLS TO GIRLS
>>> Sept 17 2004 -
>>> Spoke with Albert regarding support Hearing He told me that he did not care
>>> if it was 20 dollars a week as long as I paid something. I explained my
>>> financial hardships and his unwillingness to work with me with the girls. I told
>>> him I wanted to speak with my children, that I would call Saturday morning. He
>>> told me they are not available.
>>> Sept 20 2004 -
>>> Spoke with Albert again to confirm agreement for 20 wkly. He told me he was
>>> waiting to hear from his caseworker about this. I tried to explain to him how
>>> its not healthy for the children not to have a relationship with me and how
>>> this was only suppose to be a temporary arrangement and I will be apart of
>>> their lives. He told me I could speak with them on sat 9/25/2005, that I should
>>> call the store. Told him I will call at 10:00 am.
>>> Sept 25 2004 -
>>> I called the store at 10:00 am. He then proceeded to tell me about things he
>>> was missing. I explained to him that I had no idea where his stuff was
>>> because Mary was taking care of storing my belongings and was told to leave his
>>> tools alone. If he was missing anything, he should speak with her. He also made
>>> me aware that he got most of the stuff from Mary. I also told him that he
>>> broke the door in on Feb 3rd and changed all the locks so I could not re enter
>>> and took the cable box and anything else that was still in the home. I also
>>> told him that he must return the box to the cable company. He said I would
>>> have to prove that he has it He also told me âI told you that you would be
>>> homeless and penniless as you can see I meant itâ . He went on for approx 30
>>> minutes about how he will not pay any bills because they are in my name and he owes
>>> me nothing. He also told me that he would take what he can from me and I
>>> cannot stop him, because I cannot afford to stop it and as long as he keeps me
>>> in this position, he wins. I told him that once he gets over his guilt of
>>> adultery maybe then he would stop projecting his anger at me. He went on and on
>>> about how everything is his and I am not getting anything from him. I told him
>>> I did not call to talk about his issues but to speak with my children. We
>>> can be friends for the sake of the girls. I do not want to argue. Then he
>>> finally told me the girls where not there but at home and I should call there. I
>>> said I hope we can be friends because I do not want to call and argue just
>>> speak with my girls.
>>> Sept 25 2004 -
>>> I called the girls at his girlfriendâs home. She answered and put me on
>>> speakerphone before putting the girls on. I spoke with both of them. I told them
>>> I loved them and missed them. They told me the same. I promised the both of
>>> them I would call every Saturday morning at 10:00 am. The girls said yes they
>>> would like that and they would be there for my call.
>>> Oct 2 2004-
>>> I called Ardella and Brandy at 10:00 am at the girlfriendâs house. I got the
>>> answering machine so I left a message telling the girls I called as I
>>> promised and would call next week at the same time.
>>> Oct 2 2004-
>>> I called the store Albert answered and I asked why the girls where not there
>>> for my call, I had told them I would be calling today. He told me Ardella
>>> was in New York and Lori (his girlfriend) took Brandy to her sisterâs house. I
>>> informed him that the girls want to speak with me. He told me I have no legal
>>> right to the children. I told him I would call back next week.
>>> Oct 9 2004 -
>>> I called at 10:00 am to speak with the girls .I got answering machine again
>>> so I left a message addressed to the girls telling them I called and will call
>>> next week at the same time.
>>> Oct 9 2004-
>>> I called the store to find out where the girls were. I got answering machine
>>> there also, so I left a message âI said I will be calling the girls again
>>> next week at 10:00 am like agreed with childrenâ .
>>> Oct 16 2004 -
>>> I called at 10:00 am. Lori (his girlfriend) answered. I finally spoke with
>>> Brandy. I wished her a happy birthday and told her I love and miss her. I
>>> asked where she was the last two weeks. She told me that on 10/2 she had to go
>>> with Lori and missed talking with me. On 10/9 her father took her them camping.
>>> We talked for a while she told me she wishes I was there with her. She said
>>> this very low because she is on the speakerphone. Brandy also spoke about her
>>> friends and school. I asked to speak with Ardella but Brandy said she was
>>> not there. I told Brandy that I loved her and to tell Ardella I love her and
>>> miss them both and I will call next week.
>>> Oct 23 2004-
>>> I called at 10:00 am. Lori told me Brandy was not there. I spoke with
>>> Ardella . She spoke about school and being in the band. She told me Brandy was over
>>> a girlfriendâs house and she was going to dadâs store. I told her I love
>>> her and to tell Brandy I called and tell her I love them and miss them both
>>> very much. Told Ardella I will call next week.
>>> Oct 30 2004-
>>> I called Ardella and Brandy At 10:00 am .I was put on speakerphone by Lori.
>>> I spoke with Brandy. She told me how her costume for Halloween was a
>>> hillbilly and that she would be going trick or treating. She told me she did not want
>>> to go to school there next year because she will be going to a new school
>>> (annex I assumed). I told her she has nothing to worry about all her old
>>> friends will be there with her. Brandy told me she wants to see me. I told her I
>>> want to see her and maybe soon we can see each other. Ardella was not there so
>>> I told Brandy I loved them both and to tell ardella I called. Brandy told me
>>> she loved and missed me. I told her I love and miss her too. I told her I
>>> would talk to her next week.
>>> Nov 6 2004 -
>>> I called the girls at 10:00 am. I spoke with Brandy; she told me that she is
>>> sick. We talked about school for a little bit. I told her I love and miss
>>> her. I spoke with Ardella she told me about school and playing her instrument
>>> in the band at school. I told her I love her and miss her and will talk with
>>> them again next week.
>>> Nov 13 2004-
>>> I called the girls at 10:00 am I was told by Lori that the girls were
>>> Nov 20 2004-
>>> I called the girls at 10:00 am. I spoke with Brandy. She spoke about school
>>> and things she was doing. She told me about her trip to Maryland. She seemed
>>> very quiet and careful about what she was saying. I asked for Ardella but
>>> Brandy said she was sleeping. I told Brandy to tell her I love her and miss her.
>>> I asked Brandy to send pictures. She said she would. I told her I loved her
>>> and missed her and I will talk to her next week.
>>> Nov 27 2004 -
>>> I called the girls at 10:00 am. Lori answered and told me they were not
>>> there. Asked where they were but got no response.
>>> Dec 3 2004 -
>>> I called the girls at 10:00 am. I spoke with Brandy, she told me it was cold
>>> there and we talked about a little general stuff. She told me she loved and
>>> missed me. I told her I love and miss her too. She told me her father said
>>> she could take piano lessons after the New Year. I told her that was good and I
>>> hope she will enjoy that. She sounded happy about it. I asked for Ardella
>>> but she would not come to the phone said she was tired and laying down. I told
>>> Brandy to tell her I love her and miss them both and I will talk to them next
>>> Dec 11 2004 -
>>> I called the girls at 10:00 am. Lori told me that they were not there.
>>> Dec 11 2004 -
>>> I called the store. Albert answered; I asked if the girls were there. He
>>> told me no. I asked where they were. His answer was; it is none of my business.
>>> I told him they are my children and I promised them I would call every week.
>>> He told me I have no legal right to the children and I will never get them
>>> back. I did not see where this call was doing any good so I asked him to come
>>> to an agreement on the support. He told me I have a legal responsibility to
>>> support them. I told him I have a legal responsibility to be there mother. He
>>> told me there mother is with them and I will never get them back. I hung up.
>>> Dec 18 2004 -
>>> I called girls at 10:00 am. I spoke with Brandy. She talked about school,
>>> her grades, and that she was doing really well. She went on to tell me that
>>> where she is living none of her friends are not around and she does not like the
>>> weekends because she has nothing to do there. She did not sound happy at
>>> all. Ardella was sleeping again so I told her to tell her I love her and miss
>>> her. Told brandy I love and miss her and will talk with her next week.
>>> Dec 25 2004 -
>>> I called the girls at 10:00 am. I wished them both a very merry Christmas
>>> and told them I will call again next week.
>>> Jan 1 2005 -
>>> I called at 10:00 am. Albert answered and said they were both in bed
>>> sleeping. I told him to tell them I called and will call next week.
>>> Jan 8 2005 -
>>> I called the girls at 10:00 am. I talked with Brandy. She told me about her
>>> Christmas vacation and Ardellaâs birthday party and New Years Eve party they
>>> had at the house. We talked about school and her grades. I told her as long
>>> as she does her best no one could ask for more. She told me that on Saturdays
>>> she cleans her room. I asked for Ardella but she said she was upstairs
>>> sleeping. I told Brandy to tell her I love and miss her andâ hopefully ânext week
>>> she will be up so I can talk with her. I told Brandy that I love and miss her
>>> and will talk to her next week.
>>> Jan 15 2005 -
>>> I called girls at 10:00 am. I spoke with Brandy. We talked about when she
>>> was younger and her about memories of things we did together then. She was
>>> happy talking about these things. She told me she was going to the youth group at
>>> the church we use to go to together but they not taken there any longer on
>>> Sundays. She told me she would be getting her report card on the 31st. I told
>>> her that she probably did great. I asked her about her friends and she told
>>> me she has not been able to be with them for a while she also said there is
>>> nothing to do there. I asked for Ardella but she said she was sleeping. I told
>>> her I love her and we started playing âI love you moreâ and she laughed. I
>>> told her that even though I am not there nothing has changed and I still love
>>> her with all my heart. She told me she still loved me with all her heart too.
>>> She told me about her scrapbook where she looks at the pictures she has of
>>> all of us. I told her that was good and they are good memories to have. I told
>>> her to tell Ardella I love and miss her and will call again next week.
>>> Jan 22 2005 -
>>> I called the girls at 10:00 am. I talked with Brandy about school. She told
>>> me it was snowing and that they could get about a foot before it stops. She
>>> talked about her best friend Kendra that she has known since she was 4 yrs
>>> old. I told her I was very glad she still has Kendra as her best friend. She
>>> talked about things the two of them did together when they were younger. I asked
>>> for Ardella but she was in bed sleeping. I told her to tell Ardella I love
>>> and miss her. I told Brandy I love and miss her and will talk to her next
>>> Jan 29 2005 -
>>> I called the girls at 10:00 am. Lori told me the girls were not there.
>>> Feb 5 2005 -
>>> I called the girls at 10:00 am. Lori said they were not available to take
>>> Feb 12 2005 -
>>> I called the girls at 10:00 am. I spoke with Brandy. She was not talkative
>>> like usual. It was very brief she said there was nothing new. She seemed very
>>> uneasy and cautious. I spoke with Ardella and the same very quiet and
>>> non-talkative. I told them I loved them and will call next week.
>>> Feb 19 2005 -
>>> I called the girls at 10:00 am. Lori told me the girls were unavailable.
>>> Feb 26 2005 -
>>> I called the girls at 10:00 am. Lori told me they were not available.
>>> March 5 2005 -
>>> I called the girls at 10:00 am. I spoke with Brandy she was upset and Lori
>>> was yelling in the background âask her why she Leftâ . Brandy then asked (I
>>> could tell she was crying) why did you leave. I told her when she is ready she
>>> can come here sit down with me and I will tell her everything she needs to
>>> know. By that time, Lori got on the phone yelling at me to tell her. I told
>>> Lori that I call to talk to my children not her. She called me a liar. I told
>>> her to leave me alone she has no idea what went on in my home. She said she
>>> knows everything. She called me a lousy bitch. Therefore, I told her she was a
>>> home wrecker and a slut. I should not have but I did. She made remarks about
>>> me being a lousy mother and I told her she could never be a mother to my
>>> children because I will always be there mother. She told me that she is there
>>> mother. I told her she will never be there mother and they are my children. I
>>> told her again I do not call to talk to her but to my children. Lori put Ardella
>>> on and she told me she does not want to talk to me when I call. I could tell
>>> she was upset. Brandy got on now I could hear her crying. She told me she
>>> loved me. I asked her if she wanted me to keep calling. She said yes that she
>>> loves me and wants to talk to me (she was crying while saying this to me). At
>>> this point, I thought it best to end the call. I told brandy that I love her
>>> and will talk to her next week. I do not know what that woman is trying to do
>>> but I refuse to be a part of her little games especially with my children. I
>>> felt Ardella and Brandy are being used and that is just not fair to them. I
>>> do not want them to be hurt like that.
>>> March 11 2005 -
>>> I called girls at 10:00 am. I spoke with Brandy; she also spoke about her
>>> project in school and how her partner for this was a bad boy in her class she
>>> was also telling about the bad kids in her class and how it bothers her. She
>>> asked me if I was mad at her because of last week. I explained to her that I
>>> was not mad and when she is ready she can come to Florida and we can sit and
>>> talk about everything and I can then show her all the legal papers So she can
>>> understand everything and make her own decision and judgment when she has all
>>> the facts. I also told her that I call to speak with her about what is going
>>> on in her life and how she is doing. I do not call to argue with anyone. I
>>> told her it is ok that Ardella do not want to talk to me and maybe in time
>>> that will change. I told her to tell Ardella that I love her and miss her. I
>>> told Brandy I love and miss her and will talk to her next week.
>>> March 19 2005 -
>>> I called girls at 10:00 am. I spoke with Brandy. She told me that she has a
>>> cold. We talked about school and a few other things. I told her to tell
>>> Ardella that I love her and miss her. She was not feeling well so I told her I
>>> love her and miss her and will talk to her next week.
>>> March 26 2005 -
>>> I called girls at 10:00 am. Lori told me Brandy was not there.
>>> April 2 2005 -
>>> I called girls at 10:00 am. I got the answering machine, so I left a message
>>> for Brandy telling he I loved her and that I will call next week.
>>> April 9 2005 -
>>> I called girls at 10:00 am. I spoke with Brandy. She told me she made high
>>> honors on her report card. I told her I knew she could do it because she is
>>> smart. I asked her where she was the last couple of weeks. She told me that two
>>> weeks ago, she was at Lauraâs house and Last week she had to go with Lori to
>>> her daycare center to help put in carpet. She also said this week she has to
>>> wash Loriâs car. I told her I loved her and missed her and to tell Ardella I
>>> love and miss her too. She told me she loves and misses me.
>>> April 16 2005 -
>>> I called the girls at 10:00 am. Lori told me that brandy was unavailable.
>>> April 23 2005-
>>> I called the girls at 10:00 am. Lori again told me that she was unavailable.
>>> April 30 2005 -
>>> I called the girls at 10:00 am. I spoke with Brandy I asked her where she
>>> was the last couple of weeks. She told me that they took her camping and she
>>> was at Lauraâs house. I told her that when she is not there I leave a message
>>> on the answering machine so she will know I called when she is not there. She
>>> spoke about being in the band, softball and her first practice, her friends,
>>> and upcoming events. I told her I love her and miss her and to tell Ardella I
>>> love and miss her too. I told her I would call next week.
>>> May 7 2005 -
>>> I called the girls at 10:00 am. I spoke with Brandy. She spoke about
>>> softball practice and her first game on Monday night. She told me she was doing well
>>> in school. She seemed happy today. I asked about Ardella . She told me that
>>> Ardella was going on a trip to kingâs dominion in VA She talked about Kendra
>>> and Laura. She told me all about her sunflowers that she was growing and that
>>> she would be going on a trip to Washington DC on June 1st. I told her to
>>> tell Ardella that I love and miss her very much. I told Brandy I love and miss
>>> her too. I told her I would call again next week. She said in a low voice â
>>> happy motherâs day I love youâ . I said thank you sweetheart.
>>> May 14 2005 -
>>> I called the girls at 10:00am. I got the answering machine and left a
>>> message telling brandy I loved her and will call again next week.
>>> May 21 2005 -
>>> I called the girls at 10:00 am. I got the answering machine again and left
>>> message for Brandy letting her know I called and will call again next week.
>>> May 28 2005 -
>>> I called the girls, the message on the answering machine was about a job in
>>> the paper, and then it said, âLiz, we donât have time for your five minute
>>> phone calls. I recorded this and left a message that I called and that I
>>> recorded this message.
>>> June 4 2005 -
>>> I called the girls at 10:00 am. Lori told me that Brandy was not allowed to
>>> talk to me because her phone privileges have been taken away. I was not going
>>> to argue so I hung up.
>>> June 11 2005 -
>>> I called girls at 10:00 am. Lori told me that Brandy was not there. She was
>>> laughing and had a high pitch sound like a fire alarm blarring into the
>>> phone. (I did not appreciate this and feel she did not like Brandy wishing me a
>>> happy motherâs day so this is the punishment). I do not want my children hurt
>>> for speaking there feelings to me.
>>> June 18 2005 -
>>> I called the girls at 10:00 am. I got the answering machine and left a
>>> message for brandy telling her I loved and missed and will call again next week.
>>> June 25 2005 -
>>> I called the girls at 10:00 am. Lori told me that I am not allowed to speak
>>> with brandy anymore. I hung up.
>>> This was the last time I called because I do not want my children being hurt
>>> emotionally by what this woman is doing to them.
>>> when the hearing for support was held in jan I didn't have legal
>>> representation beause I can't afford it.they asked all the usual questions and I spoke
>>> to the judge and told her about the drug use and how he sold the house and
>>> won't let me know what it amount it sold for was .I told her how he refuses to
>>> pay any of the marital bills because he said there all in my name. how I was a
>>> partneer in the business and did the day to day activity with the business,
>>> that he claimed I was a bigamist and the spousal support was thrown aside.
>>> that I felt Iw as supporting the children already by what I was not recieving
>>> from him. I also told him I love my children but am refused the right to have
>>> anything to do with them or a say in how they are brought up. I also stated
>>> that I do not want to support my children . I want my children with me. the
>>> case was dismissed and no support awarded to him. they also wanted a financial
>>> statement which he would not provide.
>>> I received a letter in the mail a few weeks later which I have
>>> enclosed below:
>>> I received this letter in the mail.Dated June 1, 2005 I have sent this to
>>> you word for word.
>>> As Albert's wife and current acting mother to the girls, I feel
>>> the need to express a few things to you. I am a full time mother to Della and
>>> Brandy, and frankly, my opinion concerning their upbringing and well being
>>> is more significant than yours. Albert and I share the decision making. I form
>>> judgments based on the information I collect from my life experiences,
>>> therefore I feel justified in saying the following.
>>> We are doing you a favor by allowing you a phone visit with the
>>> girls. you abandoned your children and have no legal visitation ( or custody)
>>> from Florida. you know all those court documents and papers you say you have?
>>> ... try reading them ! the court order states that Albert has full legal and
>>> physical custody of the girls. There are No visitations listed for because
>>> you are gone.Albert works on Saturdays so has obviously chosen me as the
>>> supervisor for your phone calls so I will monitor every conversation . I hear
>>> everything you say.Albert and I agree this necessary for the girls protection.(
>>> because we feel you are demented). You might as well get use to this,because
>>> at this point is not about to change. Record the phone calls if you chose; we
>>> have nothing to hide or be afraid of.
>>> Where's the proof you keep talking about to support your stories?
>>> Let's see it ! If you really want to prove your honesty, Why wait ? Show the
>>> proof now. Prove everything you're telling the kids. Prove that Albert stole
>>> the house from you! Prove that he "took" everything from you ! prove that I
>>> wanted your children ! Make some copies of your "papers" and send them here. You
>>> know there is no proof of your lies ! I have taken time to show and explain
>>> our entire file of court documents to the girls. We have all our proof :
>>> Proof that you abandoned your children and took their money; That you willingly
>>> walked away from your house and the responsibilities; That you illegally sold
>>> or gave away Albert's belongings; That you stole money from the business and
>>> hid invoices; that you fraudulently obtained numerous credit cards by
>>> forging Albert's signature, then secretly hid thousands of dollars in purchases on
>>> these cards from him.
>>> ( we have been legally advised that this warrants charges) Would you like
>>> to see our proof ? Maybe it would help you face reality.
>>> Of course I wasn't in your home when you and Albert were
>>> approaching your separation, but I have a pretty good idea of what went on-After all
>>> I had kept in contact with him during some of that time.I heard some of those
>>> stories first hand and current. Also, the girls have since told me there
>>> stories. I am aware of what Albert's feeling were for you. I'm also aware of
>>> his and your behaviors at this time. I know about things you have done in
>>> your past that you continue to lie about today.....Remeber when you punched
>>> Albert in the face? Remember when you never told your children where you were
>>> moving to? Remember when they asked you questions about their future you told
>>> them to shut up? Remember when you had Laura caring for their needs because you
>>> couldn't get off the computer and care for your children ? Remember when you
>>> brainwashed Brandy into telling her Dad she didn't like me. Remember when you
>>> told those two innocent young girls to give me "the finger" whenever
>>> they saw me? Remember when you made up the story that I was stalking Brandy
>>> at summer camp? Remember when you stole the deposits from the business and
>>> left Albert with $6000 of unknown outstanding invoices? (Like I said, you are
>>> demented.) you never admit your wrong doings - not even to yourself, the
>>> person it would matter most to.
>>> You think you can flee for 4 years, abandon your children and
>>> suddenly step back into their lives and nothing should have changed. You are
>>> such a fool ! This is 2005 ! you don't even know your children anymore. they
>>> are no longer 8 and 11. Della's 15 years old now and she knows when you're
>>> lying . Brandy is not an 8 yr old child anymore either. they are both far
>>> more intelligent than you believe they are.Brandy doesn't remember " how mean
>>> her dad was being" because it never happened; She knows this and so do you .
>>> Albert (or I ) never planned to take the kids from you, nor did he steal the
>>> house from you; The girls know this also and so do you. Nobody ever made you
>>> leave your children, and I certainly never set out to take them . Who do you
>>> think is going to believe that ? ! you live in your own little world where
>>> the only truth is " Liz's word" and unfortunately for you, "Liz" is the only
>>> believer. You need to wake up ! Albert and I talk to these girls regularly
>>> about the things that have happened in the past and present and we tell them all
>>> of the truth, all of the time . Your weekly five -minute artificial phone
>>> conversations have no bearing on what they believe. I personally talk with the
>>> girls about being honest about their feelings in an attempt to teach them that
>>> it is ok to express themselves honestly no matter whom it concerns- that
>>> includes you and me. Your past is catching up with you and your world is
>>> beginning to crash down around you, because you refuse to accept the truth.
>>> We do not trust anything you say or do. It's our job as parents
>>> to protect our children from potential harm , and we view you as
>>> potentially harmful. In case you don't know why we view you as such, here are a few (
>>> just a few) reasons; you've lied to the girls in the past about why you left,
>>> about things their father has done, about sending money for their birthday,
>>> you continue to lie everytime you are confronted with a question from them,
>>> you've stolen there money. you've made up totally fictitious stories about
>>> their safety, you falsely accuse Albert and I of all kinds of ridiculous notions,
>>> you sneak around the country hiding from your responsibilities, you don't
>>> tell your children where you are. for years you don't bother to contact them
>>> consistently, you don't think you should financially support them so you hide
>>> from and lie to authorities. I could go on and on. Simply put - you are
>>> untrustable in every way and I wouldn't allow these girls time alone with you any
>>> more than I would allow them time alone with a stranger. I am protecting them.
>>> Sorry if you have a problem with that, but I'm there parent and that is my
>>> job. I will do my job as a parent .
>>> If I were such a bad person how could you be so willing to leave
>>> your children behind knowing they would be with me? You are more of a "nasty
>>> women" than I could ever possibly be.When you choose to run away I took your
>>> children in, I gave them a home, and I agreed to be involved in their lives
>>> full time.I didn't have to do any of this. I did it for Albert and for the
>>> girls - not for me, and certainly not for you ! I spent the first few years
>>> after your departure giving you the benefit of the doubt and waiting for a
>>> chance to form a cooperative relationship with you. I kept trying to explain and
>>> excuse your leaving to the girls, Albert, and myself. I was open to the
>>> possibility of eventually getting along with you.I was willing to meet you on a
>>> collaborative level, but you were so belligerent it was hopeless. I continued to
>>> wait for some kind of change from you.(stoplyingand/or become cooperative),
>>> but I have since learned different and have given up the wait. You are an
>>> evil, vindictive, cold-hearted women. You've spent your life mastering those
>>> traits and you have them polished them to perfection so you can manipulate
>>> everyone around you - husbands, in laws, children, and friends,etc. But you've
>>> never dealt with Lori Dobson. I won't let you get away with it like your past
>>> associates have.
>>> You have no idea how your circumstances have changed in the last
>>> four years or exactly where you stand now. Your information is seriously
>>> outdated because you have spent the last four years running instead of facing the
>>> facts. Do you think things have remained the same as they were in 2001 when you
>>> left? - four years have gone by ! you cannot be that stupid ! Allow me to
>>> enlighten you : you have no assets left from your life with Albert, you alone
>>> are still tens of thousands of dollars in debt and creditors are looking for
>>> you- and only you, you are no longer married, Law enforcement officials are
>>> looking for you in a few states, and you are in arrears for child support
>>> since may 2002. These are the facts . Face Them !
>>> I am more of a mother to these girls than you are. I understand you
>>> gave birth to them and feel justified in calling yourself mother. I agree.
>>> but sincere mother is much more. That's where I come in. Like I have told you
>>> in a previous letter, I do everything a mother should do for these girls. So
>>> you need to understand that although I have not given birth to these girls. I
>>> am a sincere mother to them. I'm sorry if this statement hurts you, but you
>>> created its truth when you chose to desert your children leaving them behind
>>> with Albert and me. Discarding your children may be normal and/or excusable
>>> where you come from, but in my family it is wrong. and thanks to Albert and
>>> me the girls will be raised to know this is not normal motherly behavior. Now,
>>> I am here to help Albert by doing what's right. I'll make sure the girls
>>> always know that you are their" birth mother" and what you have done for them.
>>> I do not intend on trying to replace you- I couldn't , I don't have
>>> what it takes to do that! However, I have already taken your place. I am
>>> where you should have been.I have already I have already spent half as much time
>>> raising these girls as you have and I don't intend to stop now. I am here
>>> doing what needs to done for these children- being their caregiver and role
>>> model. That's a mothers job. That's my job.you have made your choice- a
>>> detrimental one- and however you choose to utilize your motherly instincts( if you
>>> have any) from this point on is your business.But I am here to finish the job I
>>> started.I made a commitment to be part of these children's lives and I plan
>>> to stick with it.I don't intend to desert stepchildren and run from my
>>> responsibilities.unlike you I am a devoted parent.
>>> I am truly sorry for the things I have done to you and the
>>> children. I have apologized for my part in the destruction of your family and mine.in
>>> fact, I made apologies to everyone in my life( my children,My
>>> ex-husband,parents,siblings,in-laws, and others.) including myself. I did this so I could
>>> move forward . I have spent the last five years progressing and improving my
>>> life for then. It has been a long journey , but I have moved far beyond that
>>> point of my life,and I am able to hold my head up.
>>> You need to stop blaming others and take responsibility for your
>>> actions.and the choices you made in your life. You spent years ruining these
>>> children( and Albert for that matter) long before I was ever in the picture.
>>> They were so scared , confused, needy and insecure when I met them- because of
>>> you! They may not realize it yet,but quite frankly, getting away from you is
>>> probably one of the most advantageous things that ever happen to them in
>>> terms of becoming the best they can be.Albert and I are working together to help
>>> the girls grow in a more positive direction- to become confident,
>>> responsible and independent.
>>> over the last four years I have tried to
>>> understand,explain,excuse,and tolerate your behavior, but now I am through. I will not allow you to make
>>> fools out of these children anymore, nor am I going to let you do any harm to
>>> them . Our goal is to raise healthy, responsible, and well adjusted children,
>>> and at this point you are not a big part of the equation. Presently you may
>>> continue to call here on Saturdays; honestly. We are currently willing to
>>> tolerate it for the girls sake.But as you know, If you start trouble for either
>>> of them ( mainly Brandy since Della chooses not to speak with you at this
>>> point.) we will terminate the phone calls as we see fit. And in the future if
>>> we feel your calls are becoming detrimental to their health( emotionally or
>>> physiologically) we will put a stop to them altogether. Again, for their
>>> protection !
>>> You can attempt to form your own " physco support group " by calling
>>> Denise ( or anyone else) and dragging her into the mix by crying about things
>>> I say and do to you. I don't trust either of you. nor am I intimidated by
>>> you. Trust me, I know your game and I don't play it. I am doing what's right
>>> and I don't care what others think.
>>> you couldn't find some integrity within yourself if you where offered money
>>> for it. You are a liar ! You are a thief ! And a deadbeat ! I expect an am
>>> prepared for more confrontations with you.
>>> Lori ( His Girlfriend or Wife)
>>> The next correspondence was the letter from the court in
>>> pennsylvania telling me there is a hearing on dec 21st @ 3:15pm and I ca do this by
>>> phone conference. I have no resources ands legal aid says at $8.95 an hr I make
>>> too much money. the lawyers scatter like flies. PLEASE, PLEASE help me
>>> Elizabeth Dobson