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#37235 From: "n3kvl" <n3kvl@...>
Date: Wed Aug 8, 2012 2:12 pm
Subject: ENCODER & MASTER RESET?
n3kvl
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Hello All,

My FT main dial is not functioning correctly.

My question is:  What kind of software corruption can result in the encoder not
registering between the dial 9-12 o clock position?

Is it reason to think that this can't be a fixable condition under the master
rest?  Seems mechanical to me, but maybe I could be thinking incorrectly.

I received the master reset suggestion from Yaesu AFTER I had the darn think
boxed up ready to go.

Just lloking for a little suggestion here.

My unit is within warranty, so I'm only really staring at the shipping cost and
risk of sending the FT to Cali.

Archie
(N3KVL)

#37236 From: "Steve Yates, AA5TB" <steve@...>
Date: Wed Aug 8, 2012 11:40 pm
Subject: Re: ENCODER & MASTER RESET?
aa5tb
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It sounds like a hardware problem with the optical shaft encoder but like
anything with a microprocessor in it, do a reboot before bringing out the
soldering iron or the packing material.

73,
Steve Yates - AA5TB
LotW


>________________________________
> From: n3kvl <n3kvl@...>
>To: FT897@yahoogroups.com
>Sent: Wednesday, August 8, 2012 9:12 AM
>Subject: [FT897] ENCODER & MASTER RESET?
>
>
> 
>Hello All,
>
>My FT main dial is not functioning correctly.
>
>My question is:  What kind of software corruption can result in the encoder not
registering between the dial 9-12 o clock position?
>
>Is it reason to think that this can't be a fixable condition under the master
rest?  Seems mechanical to me, but maybe I could be thinking incorrectly.
>
>I received the master reset suggestion from Yaesu AFTER I had the darn think
boxed up ready to go.
>
>Just lloking for a little suggestion here.
>
>My unit is within warranty, so I'm only really staring at the shipping cost and
risk of sending the FT to Cali.
>
>Archie
>(N3KVL) 

#37237 From: "w0kie" <w0kie@...>
Date: Thu Aug 9, 2012 11:33 pm
Subject: Need recommendation for open wire tuner for 6 meters
w0kie
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My MFJ-945C Versa Tuner II refuses to properly tune a 100 foot dipole with 450
ohm open wire.  In doing so my FT-897 freaks out.  Do any of you have a
recommendation for a good open wire tuner for 6 meters?

#37238 From: "D.J.J. Ring, Jr." <n1ea@...>
Date: Fri Aug 10, 2012 12:52 am
Subject: Re: Need recommendation for open wire tuner for 6 meters
djringjr
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Are you trying to make a directive array towards the ends of the dipole?
You know that a 100 foot dipole on 50 MHz will be very directive, don't
you?  I'd guess about 5 to 10 degrees in a cloverleaf pattern from the line
of the dipole - is this where you need the signal to go?

MFJ had a 2 meter balanced line tuner that I used for a rhombic that I had
centered on New York City area.  It worked very nicely.

73

DR

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On Thu, Aug 9, 2012 at 7:33 PM, w0kie <w0kie@...> wrote:

> My MFJ-945C Versa Tuner II refuses to properly tune a 100 foot dipole with
> 450 ohm open wire.  In doing so my FT-897 freaks out.  Do any of you have a
> recommendation for a good open wire tuner for 6 meters?
>
>
>
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#37239 From: "GaryH" <garyhess999@...>
Date: Wed Aug 8, 2012 11:38 am
Subject: Signal clipping on CW
humboldt_opi...
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I have had an FT-897D since February. Now I am having a problem and am wondering
whether it is the radio or something else. My call here is "ES1WST".

Problem: On 20m CW only, stations are frequently copying my call as "S1WST", so
somehow the first dit is being clipped.

Antennas:
- hexbeam = 20m, 17m, 15m, 12m, 10m, 6m
- trap vertical = 40m, 80m, 160m

The weird thing is that the problem ONLY occurs on 20m, but there it is
commonplace.

I have tried keying the radio remotely from upstairs and listening to my 20m CW
signal on another radio (FT-817), but I don't hear any clipping.

I have also tried CQing on 20m and looking at the reverse beacon network (RBN).
I find that all of the monitor stations are copying "ES1WST" (and not "S1WST").

I sometimes use a Bengali key for CW and sometimes let the computer key the
radio.

My MFJ meter displays a good SWR for the hexbeam on 20m (< 1.5).

Does this ring a bell to anyone?

73,
Gary, ES1WST (WS4T)

#37240 From: "alanmm6" <mm6elv@...>
Date: Thu Aug 9, 2012 8:05 am
Subject: FT-897 Dummy load question
alanmm6
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Hi. I am transmitting into a dummy load using 5 watts and AM. On all bands
except 6 metres I am getting 1:1 swr. But on 6 metres I get 1.75:1

Any ideas?

Many thanks

Alan

#37241 From: "Robert Tuck" <robertktuck@...>
Date: Fri Aug 10, 2012 4:13 am
Subject: RE: FT-897 Dummy load question
robert_ab4rt
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What kind of dummy load?  Some have specific frequency ratings.  My oil
cooled Cantenna is listed to only 30Mhz.  I have other dummy loads rated to
1000Mhz.

I would imagine that you would get higher SWR on 2 meters.

Robert

AB4RT



From: FT897@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FT897@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
alanmm6
Sent: Thursday, August 09, 2012 04:05
To: FT897@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [FT897] FT-897 Dummy load question





Hi. I am transmitting into a dummy load using 5 watts and AM. On all bands
except 6 metres I am getting 1:1 swr. But on 6 metres I get 1.75:1

Any ideas?

Many thanks

Alan





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#37242 From: "alanmm6" <mm6elv@...>
Date: Fri Aug 10, 2012 1:18 pm
Subject: Re: FT-897 Dummy load question
alanmm6
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Hi Robert. Thank you for your quick reply. It is a Zetagi Model DL.50,
apparently rated to 500 Mhz. On all other HF bands it gives a stable 1:1 reading
only on 50-52Mhz it doesn't. Feeding it with 2 foot of coax cable.

As you have probably guessed I am a new Amateur :-) and still finding my way
about my new radio and putting theory into practice.....


Alan
-2M0SHI-

--- In FT897@yahoogroups.com, "Robert Tuck" <robertktuck@...> wrote:
>
> What kind of dummy load?  Some have specific frequency ratings.  My oil
> cooled Cantenna is listed to only 30Mhz.  I have other dummy loads rated to
> 1000Mhz.
>
> I would imagine that you would get higher SWR on 2 meters.
>
> Robert
>
> AB4RT
>
>
>
> From: FT897@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FT897@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
> alanmm6
> Sent: Thursday, August 09, 2012 04:05
> To: FT897@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [FT897] FT-897 Dummy load question
>
>
>
>
>
> Hi. I am transmitting into a dummy load using 5 watts and AM. On all bands
> except 6 metres I am getting 1:1 swr. But on 6 metres I get 1.75:1
>
> Any ideas?
>
> Many thanks
>
> Alan
>
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

#37243 From: "hwardlaw@..." <hwardlaw@...>
Date: Fri Aug 10, 2012 1:32 pm
Subject: No More FT-897D in my shack
hwardlaw...
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Since I have had so much fun shipping this unit in for repair and getting a few
months use each time I will take the unit to the Huntsville Hamfest and dump it
on the jokers from Yaesu for them to dispose of it. I have more respect for my
local garbage dump than to send it there. I have about $1600 tied up in it and
it is still only good for a book-end or a doorstop.  I hope that the rest of you
do not have the same experience that I did.  Reliability and dependability are
not there from my experience.  It is a pity that Yaesu does not have someone to
monitor this group.  I will not consider Yaesu as a possibility for the rig that
replaces this.

#37244 From: Dexter McIntyre W4DEX <dexter.mc@...>
Date: Fri Aug 10, 2012 3:16 pm
Subject: Re: No More FT-897D in my shack
dmcintyre
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hwardlaw@... wrote:
>
>
> Since I have had so much fun shipping this unit in for repair and
> getting a few months use each time I will take the unit to the
> Huntsville Hamfest and dump it on the jokers from Yaesu for them to
> dispose of it. I have more respect for my local garbage dump than to
> send it there. I have about $1600 tied up in it and it is still only
> good for a book-end or a doorstop. I hope that the rest of you do not
> have the same experience that I did. Reliability and dependability are
> not there from my experience. It is a pity that Yaesu does not have
> someone to monitor this group. I will not consider Yaesu as a
> possibility for the rig that replaces this.
>
>
That sounds somewhat like my experience with Icom.  I have and use on a
regular basis a Yaesu FT-897D, FT-736, FT-726, FT-101ZD, (2) FT-221, one
for 2 meters, the other as a microwave IF.  Of course all but the 897
are considered antiques by most hams.  One of the 221 units and the
101ZD I bought new about 35 years ago.  Never a problem with at all with
those.  The 726 and 736 I bought used with minor problems that was
easily fixed.  I also have but seldom use a FT-301 and FT-620 which
still works perfect.  And add a FT-817 I bought used I use as a
microwave IF for portable operating.

Dex

#37245 From: Joel <hiqual@...>
Date: Fri Aug 10, 2012 3:19 pm
Subject: Re: Need recommendation for open wire tuner for 6 meters
grayhorse89
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Why are you trying to make a HF antenna work on VHF?   As was said, this
will not be a
very effective antenna.  In January,   I  made a 6 Meter dipole from
some wire and a SO239 connector
it has a 1:5 -1 SWR and I am approaching 600 contacts with 39 states so
far with my 897.

Interesting point though my new LDG AT600Pro tuner claims to be a 6M
tuner and finds a
match but the 'match' it finds does not seem beneficial to signal
reception or transmission so
I just run the antenna with the tuner bypassed.  The balun I use on my
fan dipole prevents me
from even trying to use that on 6.

Have you thought about adding a set of elements that are resonant on 6M
to your dipole?  You
might not even need a tuner then and I doubt that their short length
would mess with your HF usage.

Cheers

KQ0J



On 8/9/2012 7:52 PM, D.J.J. Ring, Jr. wrote:
>
> Are you trying to make a directive array towards the ends of the dipole?
> You know that a 100 foot dipole on 50 MHz will be very directive, don't
> you? I'd guess about 5 to 10 degrees in a cloverleaf pattern from the line
> of the dipole - is this where you need the signal to go?
>
> MFJ had a 2 meter balanced line tuner that I used for a rhombic that I had
> centered on New York City area. It worked very nicely.
>
> 73
>
> DR
>
> David J. Ring, Jr., N1EA <http://www.qsl.net/n1ea/> Radio-Officers
> Group<http://groups.google.com/group/radio-officers?hl=en>-- Join
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>
> On Thu, Aug 9, 2012 at 7:33 PM, w0kie <w0kie@...
> <mailto:w0kie%40w0kie.com>> wrote:
>
> > My MFJ-945C Versa Tuner II refuses to properly tune a 100 foot
> dipole with
> > 450 ohm open wire. In doing so my FT-897 freaks out. Do any of you
> have a
> > recommendation for a good open wire tuner for 6 meters?
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------------
> >
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
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#37246 From: "dmaley88" <dgmaley@...>
Date: Fri Aug 10, 2012 3:28 pm
Subject: Re: No More FT-897D in my shack
dmaley88
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I had a Ford Escort, in the 1980's, where the dealer had to replace a part in
the air conditionng system under warranty. After the repair, the system would
leak out all the freon in about a month.  I would take it back again and be told
there's no leak and get it recharged under warranty.  Didn't take too many
return trips for me to realize that the problem is not the problem here.
I borrowed a good electronic leak detector and showed the shop manager where the
leak was. He fixed it himself.  Never had a problem again.
I'm wondering if you might need to  get a shop manager's attention so that he
can find the real problem here.  The real problem here is having to send it back
so often.  All Yaesu service will do is fix the radio.  That's not the real
problem.
Dave  WA0ZZG

--- In FT897@yahoogroups.com, "hwardlaw@..." <hwardlaw@...> wrote:
>
> Since I have had so much fun shipping this unit in for repair and getting a
few months use each time I will take the unit to the Huntsville Hamfest and dump
it on the jokers from Yaesu for them to dispose of it. I have more respect for
my local garbage dump than to send it there. I have about $1600 tied up in it
and it is still only good for a book-end or a doorstop.  I hope that the rest of
you do not have the same experience that I did.  Reliability and dependability
are not there from my experience.  It is a pity that Yaesu does not have someone
to monitor this group.  I will not consider Yaesu as a possibility for the rig
that replaces this.
>

#37247 From: fred wimberly <freeloader666@...>
Date: Fri Aug 10, 2012 5:45 pm
Subject: Re: No More FT-897D in my shack
freeloader666
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I have owned MANY 857d and 897d units.  All were great units.  I currently have
a  FT-950.  ALC quit after 2 mos.  Repaired under warranty.  No problems for 2
yrs.   Just lucky, I guess.

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#37248 From: "fred" <geminifred@...>
Date: Fri Aug 10, 2012 7:05 pm
Subject: Re: Need recommendation for open wire tuner for 6 meters
blackbelair
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--- In FT897@yahoogroups.com, "w0kie" <w0kie@...> wrote:
>
> My MFJ-945C Versa Tuner II refuses to properly tune a 100 foot dipole with 450
ohm open wire.  In doing so my FT-897 freaks out.  Do any of you have a
recommendation for a good open wire tuner for 6 meters?

Hmm, a 30.48m long dipole for the 6m band. Me thinks there will be issues. How
about making it into a 6m collinear dipole?
Fred k6kub
>

#37249 From: "D.J.J. Ring, Jr." <n1ea@...>
Date: Fri Aug 10, 2012 7:39 pm
Subject: Re: Re: FT-897 Dummy load question
djringjr
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Hello Allan,

You know that the output for 2 metres and 70 centimetres is different than
the HF/6 metre output port, I'm guessing.

Have you measured the SWR on 2 metres and 70 centimetres?  If it is about
the same or worse then just accept the results, and consider for £19.95
you're getting "good accuracy" on HF and "fair" accuracy on V/UHF.

Move the dummy load to the V/UHF port and test for swr there.  It is a
question of which do you trust more?  The SWR indicator in the Yaesu isn't
high grade but it is mostly correct.  I'd trust a Bird wattmeter /
artificial antenna with 50 ohm at 2 GHz as being correct and the Yaesu as
wrong but for inexpensive dummy load, I'd trust the dummy load as wrong and
the Yaesu as being right.

For the same price in USA we have the OPEK DL-60 - 50-Ohm VHF / UHF Dummy
Load 60-Watt - DC to 500 MHz PL-259 which is about 1.25:1 at 900 MHz and
less elsewhere.

What I would have done was search eBay for a 20 watt Termaline artificial
antenna - they're made by Bird of USA and are high quality units used
commercially.  I'm sure they had similar lab equipment in UK.

DR
N1EA


On Fri, Aug 10, 2012 at 9:18 AM, alanmm6 <mm6elv@...> wrote:

>
>
>
> Hi Robert. Thank you for your quick reply. It is a Zetagi Model DL.50,
> apparently rated to 500 Mhz. On all other HF bands it gives a stable 1:1
> reading only on 50-52Mhz it doesn't. Feeding it with 2 foot of coax cable.
>
> As you have probably guessed I am a new Amateur :-) and still finding my
> way about my new radio and putting theory into practice.....
>
>
> Alan
> -2M0SHI-
>
> --- In FT897@yahoogroups.com, "Robert Tuck" <robertktuck@...> wrote:
> >
> > What kind of dummy load?  Some have specific frequency ratings.  My oil
> > cooled Cantenna is listed to only 30Mhz.  I have other dummy loads rated
> to
> > 1000Mhz.
> >
> > I would imagine that you would get higher SWR on 2 meters.
> >
> > Robert
> >
> > AB4RT
> >
> >
> >
> > From: FT897@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FT897@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
> > alanmm6
> > Sent: Thursday, August 09, 2012 04:05
> > To: FT897@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: [FT897] FT-897 Dummy load question
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Hi. I am transmitting into a dummy load using 5 watts and AM. On all
> bands
> > except 6 metres I am getting 1:1 swr. But on 6 metres I get 1.75:1
> >
> > Any ideas?
> >
> > Many thanks
> >
> > Alan
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>


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#37250 From: "Hank Lambert" <hank@...>
Date: Fri Aug 10, 2012 3:46 pm
Subject: RE: No More FT-897D in my shack
kb4mto
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I'm sorry to hear you have had such bad luck with that unit. I have an
FT-897D that has been running non-stop for over 4 years, has been on two
field day events, and has run multiple contests, and I have never had a
single issue with it. I also have and use regularly an FT-857D in my truck,
an FT-8800R that has been relocated from my truck to the shack, and a
VX-170. Have you contacted Yaesu's customer service (not tech support)?



73,





Hank Lambert

KB4MTO/TA5ZC

hank@...

kb4mto@...

www.hanklambert.com

PGP Key: 0x9DFFC21E



Years ago, many hams used to work a lot of DX until they got their hands on
an SWR meter and found out they couldn't.











From: FT897@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FT897@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
hwardlaw@...
Sent: Friday, August 10, 2012 9:33 AM
To: FT897@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [FT897] No More FT-897D in my shack





Since I have had so much fun shipping this unit in for repair and getting a
few months use each time I will take the unit to the Huntsville Hamfest and
dump it on the jokers from Yaesu for them to dispose of it. I have more
respect for my local garbage dump than to send it there. I have about $1600
tied up in it and it is still only good for a book-end or a doorstop. I hope
that the rest of you do not have the same experience that I did. Reliability
and dependability are not there from my experience. It is a pity that Yaesu
does not have someone to monitor this group. I will not consider Yaesu as a
possibility for the rig that replaces this.





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#37251 From: "Stadler" <gernot.stadler@...>
Date: Fri Aug 10, 2012 4:37 am
Subject: USB Cable CT-62U causes trouble with PA FL-2100Z
gernot.stadler
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I use the FT-897D with the CAT Cable CT-62U and PA FL2100Z since a few day's.
When PA FL2100Z i switch the PA to operate, than the PA is sucking 80mA of
quiescent current same like i use the PTT in SSB without modulation.
This function is wrong. When i remove the USB Cable from the FT-897D than the PA
is running normal after switching to operate.
What is going wrong. The USB Cable from Yaesu is useless with the Yaesu PA if no
solution!
73
Gernot

#37252 From: "g2axq" <john@...>
Date: Fri Aug 10, 2012 12:10 pm
Subject: Reports of high pitched whistle on carrier on 2 metre fm
g2axq
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Hi all,not sure if this problem has appeared before on the forum as I am a
newbie.
Just purchased a seconhand 897 and I have reports of whistle on the carrier,I
wonder if any body else has experienced this problem.
Regards.
John G2AXQ

#37253 From: "Scott" <cupcake@...>
Date: Fri Aug 10, 2012 10:42 am
Subject: FT897D - Display and mic keys
uad782
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Hi,

I have just replaced my ft897d that was destroyed by fire with a second hand
one.

With menu 41 DISP COLOR it does not seem to do what the manual says.  It just
gives me the option of two colours - blue and orange.

I cannot get the up/down keys on the mic to work.  I tested my ft817 mic and had
the same problem.

Also the 5MHz channels seem to be missing.

I believe the previous owner adjusted some jumpers and the rig is now general
coverage TX.  So the missing 5 MHz channels do not matter but I am still
wondering.

Any comments appreciated.

I still love the FT897 better tham my IC7000 and IC7410!

Thanks

Scott
VK2AET

#37254 From: Richard Von Aschen <rlvonaschen@...>
Date: Sat Aug 11, 2012 7:27 am
Subject: (No subject)
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#37255 From: "w0kie" <w0kie@...>
Date: Sat Aug 11, 2012 11:58 pm
Subject: Re: Need recommendation for open wire tuner for 6 meters
w0kie
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Your answers suggest that it is crazy to use a 100 foot dipole that is fed by
open wire on the 6 meter band.  Hooking a 6 meter dipole to the existing open
wire feeder already hooked to the 100 foot dipole is an idea I didn't consider. 
I'm not sure it would work well but what do I know?  What I do know is that the
FT-897 goes bat **** crazy on my current 6 meter setup.  First an apparent good
6 meter match on AM at 25 watts then I immediately re-key and the transmitter
goes into like 150 watts AM final transistor melt down mode.

#37256 From: Joel <hiqual@...>
Date: Sun Aug 12, 2012 3:19 am
Subject: Re: Re: Need recommendation for open wire tuner for 6 meters
grayhorse89
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Well I suggested adding that element as I use a fan dipole on HF and I
have good results I don't know
why a 6 meter element would not work just as well as my 10M element,. I
talk to a lot of hams that try to
tune long HF antennas on 6M and none work well from 43 foot verticals to
80 meter loops.

I have no problems with my separate 6M dipole .

I know that RF in the shack will cause some pretty weird results and
trying to force tune an unresonant antenna can give you some big time RF
in the shack.




On 8/11/2012 6:58 PM, w0kie wrote:
>
> Your answers suggest that it is crazy to use a 100 foot dipole that is
> fed by open wire on the 6 meter band. Hooking a 6 meter dipole to the
> existing open wire feeder already hooked to the 100 foot dipole is an
> idea I didn't consider. I'm not sure it would work well but what do I
> know? What I do know is that the FT-897 goes bat **** crazy on my
> current 6 meter setup. First an apparent good 6 meter match on AM at
> 25 watts then I immediately re-key and the transmitter goes into like
> 150 watts AM final transistor melt down mode.
>
>
>
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#37257 From: "D.J.J. Ring, Jr." <n1ea@...>
Date: Sun Aug 12, 2012 4:03 am
Subject: Re: Re: Need recommendation for open wire tuner for 6 meters
djringjr
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You can add FAN type elements to any antenna by using small size PVC pipe -
half inch or smaller is fine.

ASCII graphics follow!

-----------------------------+-----------*-----------------(insulator)----------\
----------------------------------------------
                                                            /
                                                         /

I only ASCII drew half of the added element and it's not very accurate.

From the center insulator come out with half of 468/50.1 length of wire.
This is 1/4 wave on six meters.  At the end of the wire, make a small loop,
attach a small diameter nylon rope or poly rope.  Put the nylon rope
through the small diameter PVC pipe.  The pipe should be about 12 inches
(one foot) long.  Attach to the 50 foot section of your present wire see
the * mark..  From the place where the end of your six meter antenna
attaches to the rope which goes inside the small PVC pipe attach another
piece of nylon rope.  Attach this further away from the center - where the
+ sign is.  The PVC pipe keeps the wire about a foot away from the wire so
that it doesn't couple and so that it resonates on 6 meters.

Do the same thing on the other side of the 100 foot flat top antenna.

All this PVC pipe does is allow you to easily keep a wire away from other
wires.  This idea was used for years by master antenna maker W9INN (now
Silent Key).

73
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On Sat, Aug 11, 2012 at 11:19 PM, Joel <hiqual@...> wrote:

> Well I suggested adding that element as I use a fan dipole on HF and I
> have good results I don't know
> why a 6 meter element would not work just as well as my 10M element,. I
> talk to a lot of hams that try to
> tune long HF antennas on 6M and none work well from 43 foot verticals to
> 80 meter loops.
>
> I have no problems with my separate 6M dipole .
>
> I know that RF in the shack will cause some pretty weird results and
> trying to force tune an unresonant antenna can give you some big time RF
> in the shack.
>
>
>
>
> On 8/11/2012 6:58 PM, w0kie wrote:
> >
> > Your answers suggest that it is crazy to use a 100 foot dipole that is
> > fed by open wire on the 6 meter band. Hooking a 6 meter dipole to the
> > existing open wire feeder already hooked to the 100 foot dipole is an
> > idea I didn't consider. I'm not sure it would work well but what do I
> > know? What I do know is that the FT-897 goes bat **** crazy on my
> > current 6 meter setup. First an apparent good 6 meter match on AM at
> > 25 watts then I immediately re-key and the transmitter goes into like
> > 150 watts AM final transistor melt down mode.
> >
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#37259 From: "alanmm6" <mm6elv@...>
Date: Sun Aug 12, 2012 10:52 am
Subject: Re: FT-897 Dummy load question
alanmm6
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Re: FT-897 Dummy load question


Hi DR. Thanks for your post and advice. I just checked it. On 2 Metres (145MHz)
I am getting 1.3:1 on 70CM I am getting 3:1(basically RED!!!!!) and 6 Metres
(51Mhz) is 1.75:1 The SWR meter I am using is an LDG FT-897 and AM ,5Watts

On the euro version of the 897(mine is not D) it is an N-Type connector.
Thanks

Alan

--- In FT897@yahoogroups.com, "D.J.J. Ring, Jr." <n1ea@...> wrote:
>
> Hello Allan,
>
> You know that the output for 2 metres and 70 centimetres is different than
> the HF/6 metre output port, I'm guessing.
>
> Have you measured the SWR on 2 metres and 70 centimetres?  If it is about
> the same or worse then just accept the results, and consider for £19.95
> you're getting "good accuracy" on HF and "fair" accuracy on V/UHF.
>
> Move the dummy load to the V/UHF port and test for swr there.  It is a
> question of which do you trust more?  The SWR indicator in the Yaesu isn't
> high grade but it is mostly correct.  I'd trust a Bird wattmeter /
> artificial antenna with 50 ohm at 2 GHz as being correct and the Yaesu as
> wrong but for inexpensive dummy load, I'd trust the dummy load as wrong and
> the Yaesu as being right.
>
> For the same price in USA we have the OPEK DL-60 - 50-Ohm VHF / UHF Dummy
> Load 60-Watt - DC to 500 MHz PL-259 which is about 1.25:1 at 900 MHz and
> less elsewhere.
>
> What I would have done was search eBay for a 20 watt Termaline artificial
> antenna - they're made by Bird of USA and are high quality units used
> commercially.  I'm sure they had similar lab equipment in UK.
>
> DR
> N1EA
>
>
> On Fri, Aug 10, 2012 at 9:18 AM, alanmm6 <mm6elv@...> wrote:
>
> >
> >
> >
> > Hi Robert. Thank you for your quick reply. It is a Zetagi Model DL.50,
> > apparently rated to 500 Mhz. On all other HF bands it gives a stable 1:1
> > reading only on 50-52Mhz it doesn't. Feeding it with 2 foot of coax cable.
> >
> > As you have probably guessed I am a new Amateur :-) and still finding my
> > way about my new radio and putting theory into practice.....
> >
> >
> > Alan
> > -2M0SHI-
> >
> > --- In FT897@yahoogroups.com, "Robert Tuck" <robertktuck@> wrote:
> > >
> > > What kind of dummy load?  Some have specific frequency ratings.  My oil
> > > cooled Cantenna is listed to only 30Mhz.  I have other dummy loads rated
> > to
> > > 1000Mhz.
> > >
> > > I would imagine that you would get higher SWR on 2 meters.
> > >
> > > Robert
> > >
> > > AB4RT
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > From: FT897@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FT897@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
> > > alanmm6
> > > Sent: Thursday, August 09, 2012 04:05
> > > To: FT897@yahoogroups.com
> > > Subject: [FT897] FT-897 Dummy load question
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Hi. I am transmitting into a dummy load using 5 watts and AM. On all
> > bands
> > > except 6 metres I am getting 1:1 swr. But on 6 metres I get 1.75:1
> > >
> > > Any ideas?
> > >
> > > Many thanks
> > >
> > > Alan
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
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#37260 From: "Radio_Randy" <randy.jones@...>
Date: Sun Aug 12, 2012 4:34 pm
Subject: Re: FT-897 Dummy load question
n7ckj
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Alan,

If you're using an antenna switch between the load and radio, try the test
without it.

I bought an MFJ antenna switch, only to find out it wasn't rated for 6 Meters.
The SWR was fine on all the lower bands. Replacing it with an AlphaDelta unit
fixed my problem.

73, Radio Randy N7CKJ

--- In FT897@yahoogroups.com, "alanmm6" <mm6elv@...> wrote:
>
> Hi. I am transmitting into a dummy load using 5 watts and AM. On all bands
except 6 metres I am getting 1:1 swr. But on 6 metres I get 1.75:1
>
> Any ideas?
>
> Many thanks
>
> Alan
>

#37261 From: "Radio_Randy" <randy.jones@...>
Date: Sun Aug 12, 2012 4:49 pm
Subject: Re: FT897D - Display and mic keys
n7ckj
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Scott,

My recommendation would be to get your money back for the used radio and buy a
new or un-modified unit. It sounds like the wideband mod may not be the only
thing the previous user did to that radio...especially if he botched the job.

73, Radio Randy N7CKJ

--- In FT897@yahoogroups.com, "Scott" <cupcake@...> wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> I have just replaced my ft897d that was destroyed by fire with a second hand
one.
>
> With menu 41 DISP COLOR it does not seem to do what the manual says.  It just
gives me the option of two colours - blue and orange.
>
> I cannot get the up/down keys on the mic to work.  I tested my ft817 mic and
had the same problem.
>
> Also the 5MHz channels seem to be missing.
>
> I believe the previous owner adjusted some jumpers and the rig is now general
coverage TX.  So the missing 5 MHz channels do not matter but I am still
wondering.
>
> Any comments appreciated.
>
> I still love the FT897 better tham my IC7000 and IC7410!
>
> Thanks
>
> Scott
> VK2AET
>

#37262 From: "lenhecker" <k3lrh@...>
Date: Sun Aug 12, 2012 5:04 pm
Subject: Re: Reports of high pitched whistle on carrier on 2 metre fm
lenhecker
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......mobile?......low supply voltage?

GL
73

#37263 From: "jdeitch2" <jdeitch2@...>
Date: Sun Aug 12, 2012 9:39 pm
Subject: Re: FT897D - Display and mic keys
jdeitch2
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Have you tried a master reset since you got the rig?

JG1KGS

--- In FT897@yahoogroups.com, "Scott" <cupcake@...> wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> I have just replaced my ft897d that was destroyed by fire with a second hand
one.
>
> With menu 41 DISP COLOR it does not seem to do what the manual says.  It just
gives me the option of two colours - blue and orange.
>
> I cannot get the up/down keys on the mic to work.  I tested my ft817 mic and
had the same problem.
>
> Also the 5MHz channels seem to be missing.
>
> I believe the previous owner adjusted some jumpers and the rig is now general
coverage TX.  So the missing 5 MHz channels do not matter but I am still
wondering.
>
> Any comments appreciated.
>
> I still love the FT897 better tham my IC7000 and IC7410!
>
> Thanks
>
> Scott
> VK2AET
>

#37264 From: "Jimmy \(WB8NBI\)" <wb8nbi@...>
Date: Sun Aug 12, 2012 11:04 pm
Subject: Re: Re: FT897D - Display and mic keys
wb8nbi
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Scott:
     I agree with Randy I think that radio would go back to the last owner very
quick.

DE Jimmy (WB8NBI)

From: Radio_Randy
Sent: Sunday, August 12, 2012 12:49 PM
To: FT897@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [FT897] Re: FT897D - Display and mic keys


Scott,

My recommendation would be to get your money back for the used radio and buy a
new or un-modified unit. It sounds like the wideband mod may not be the only
thing the previous user did to that radio...especially if he botched the job.

73, Radio Randy N7CKJ

--- In mailto:FT897%40yahoogroups.com, "Scott" <cupcake@...> wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> I have just replaced my ft897d that was destroyed by fire with a second hand
one.
>
> With menu 41 DISP COLOR it does not seem to do what the manual says. It just
gives me the option of two colours - blue and orange.
>
> I cannot get the up/down keys on the mic to work. I tested my ft817 mic and
had the same problem.
>
> Also the 5MHz channels seem to be missing.
>
> I believe the previous owner adjusted some jumpers and the rig is now general
coverage TX. So the missing 5 MHz channels do not matter but I am still
wondering.
>
> Any comments appreciated.
>
> I still love the FT897 better tham my IC7000 and IC7410!
>
> Thanks
>
> Scott
> VK2AET
>





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#37265 From: "D.J.J. Ring, Jr." <n1ea@...>
Date: Mon Aug 13, 2012 3:12 am
Subject: Re: Reports of high pitched whistle on carrier on 2 metre fm
djringjr
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John,

There are settings for audio tones as in EU and especially in UK there wa -
and still could be - a system in which a tone burst was needed before
accessing a repeater system 20 years ago, I think I remember seeing such a
setting and laughed when I saw it fondly remembering years past.

Also RF feedback in the audio circuits can cause this whistling -
especially if the symptoms are intermittent and the tone seems to vary
upwards or downwards or have other pitches.  If this is the problem, there
is a path between the transceiver and antenna that is causing radio
frequency voltage from entering the transceiver in a way it should not.
Most cases of this are cured by correct bonding of an earth connection
(grounding or earthing of the set and antenna).

73

DR
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On Fri, Aug 10, 2012 at 8:10 AM, g2axq <john@...> wrote:

> Hi all,not sure if this problem has appeared before on the forum as I am a
> newbie.
> Just purchased a seconhand 897 and I have reports of whistle on the
> carrier,I wonder if any body else has experienced this problem.
> Regards.
> John G2AXQ
>
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