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#1709 From: Timecops <groups@...>
Date: Mon Oct 17, 2011 12:05 pm
Subject: Re: WHITE HOUSE PETITION RE SCIENTOLOGY
timecops2000
Send Email Send Email
 
my signature number 3.149
http://tinyurl.com/62eqyyl

we have only 1 week.....  3,149
Sincerely yours, Maxim Lebedev, Moscow
http://galac-patra.org
http://timecops.org
http://webauditing.org
http://0-48.ru
phone: +7 916 299-05-59 skype: timecops
icq: 31476292
---------------------------

10/12/2011 10:20 PM, basic basic ïèøåò:
 
  You don't get out much on the net. I do.
 
 
  Karen de La Carrierre had the rare honour of being poersonally invited to join the SO by
LRH and is only one of 7 class XIIs ever made, and was Heber's Wife and assistent while he was president of COS. She can't get in touch with him. 
 
    Above Mike Rinders comments on his whereabouts. The "Hole" is a double trailor at the Int base where virtually all execs are kept locked behind barred windows and doors.
 
   bb
 


--- On Wed, 12/10/11, Serge Kuptsoff <serge_btm@...> wrote:

From: Serge Kuptsoff <serge_btm@...>
Subject: RE: [Galac_Patra] WHITE HOUSE PETITION RE SCIENTOLOGY
To: galac_patra@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, 12 October, 2011, 17:37

 
>BB
 > Its clear you don't get out much

no comments here.

However, while reading what you added, i could not but notice one thing...
She only says about her son's disconnect. Where does she say about anyone kept under a lock??
Her text doesn't specifically say that. Who wrote that paragraph about the "locked person" above her quoted letter?

She wanted out - she is out (and in the pissing contest with COS) :) 
Who is holding who?

If people hold themselves with their illusions - this is same with all groups that tend to capitalize on this. 

If there was a real deal with holding someone locked - there would be as much 
investigation and outrage as with that girl who died back in the 90-ies in Clearwater.
In US all it takes to get a police with a search warrant on site - just a phone call to 911 for help.

Serge


To: Galac_Patra@yahoogroups.com
From: basic2basic@...
Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2011 14:56:30 +0100
Subject: RE: [Galac_Patra] WHITE HOUSE PETITION RE SCIENTOLOGY

 


--- On Wed, 12/10/11, Serge Kuptsoff <serge_btm@...> wrote:

From: Serge Kuptsoff <serge_btm@...>
Subject: RE: [Galac_Patra] WHITE HOUSE PETITION RE SCIENTOLOGY
To: galac_patra@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, 12 October, 2011, 4:16

 

This is not a true data that anyone is kept against their will, or exploited and have no way out.

BB
   Its clear you don't get out much:-


  
WHITE HOUSE PETITION RE SCIENTOLOGY MORE REASONS TO SIGN

http://tinyurl.com/62eqyyl

  Corporate Scientology is even more bizarre than  anything Orwell imagined.

  Karen De La Carrierre  is trained to the highest levels with regard to Scientology
One of only 7 people. She was Married to the former President of the Church of Scientology. He is kept under lock and key and armed guards at the International headquarters. Her son has been told to "Disconnect" from her and thus she can't communicate with him.

  She has posted this below on the Ex Scientology Message Board.


   From Karen De La Carrierre

Even though this is written with satire, there is much truth to this. More than you know.

Sometimes I ponder as to how much of a sucker I have been, what was it that made me so dense ? In my last 3-4 years I paid them $250,000 !!!

I saw the out points. I witnessed the insanities, but I was tunnel visioned within the cult and could not think straight.

And what did the "Church" do as soon as I started whistleblowing on the atrocities and Miscavige ?

They built a tabloid hate web site on me within days !
That's right. $250,000 supported their OSA and PIs and the dirty Fair Game "Anonmymous" phone call to Law enforcement that I was peddling underage children for SEX !

I truly threw the gauntlet down at that point.
Nothing will stop me and my revelations.

They have my son as in disconnection, but I have a voice and I intend to speak....
Reply
With Quote

http://www.forum.exscn.net/showthread.php?25081-IAS-Criminal-Rip-off-FRAUD-entity-sucks-it-in-no-REFUND&p=621384#post621384

#1710 From: pat krenik <p_krenik@...>
Date: Mon Oct 17, 2011 4:50 pm
Subject: RE: WHITE HOUSE PETITION RE SCIENTOLOGY
p_krenik
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Thank you for letting me know.
 
Love, Pat


 

To: Galac_Patra@yahoogroups.com
From: groups@...
Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2011 16:05:22 +0400
Subject: Re: [Galac_Patra] WHITE HOUSE PETITION RE SCIENTOLOGY



my signature number 3.149
http://tinyurl.com/62eqyyl

we have only 1 week.....  3,149
Sincerely yours, Maxim Lebedev, Moscow
http://galac-patra.org
http://timecops.org
http://webauditing.org
http://0-48.ru
phone: +7 916 299-05-59 skype: timecops
icq: 31476292
---------------------------

10/12/2011 10:20 PM, basic basic ÐÉÛÅÔ:
 
  You don't get out much on the net. I do.
 
 
  Karen de La Carrierre had the rare honour of being poersonally invited to join the SO by
LRH and is only one of 7 class XIIs ever made, and was Heber's Wife and assistent while he was president of COS. She can't get in touch with him. 
 
    Above Mike Rinders comments on his whereabouts. The "Hole" is a double trailor at the Int base where virtually all execs are kept locked behind barred windows and doors.
 
   bb
 


--- On Wed, 12/10/11, Serge Kuptsoff <serge_btm@...> wrote:

From: Serge Kuptsoff <serge_btm@...>
Subject: RE: [Galac_Patra] WHITE HOUSE PETITION RE SCIENTOLOGY
To: galac_patra@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, 12 October, 2011, 17:37

 
>BB
 > Its clear you don't get out much

no comments here.

However, while reading what you added, i could not but notice one thing...
She only says about her son's disconnect. Where does she say about anyone kept under a lock??
Her text doesn't specifically say that. Who wrote that paragraph about the "locked person" above her quoted letter?

She wanted out - she is out (and in the pissing contest with COS) :) 
Who is holding who?

If people hold themselves with their illusions - this is same with all groups that tend to capitalize on this. 

If there was a real deal with holding someone locked - there would be as much 
investigation and outrage as with that girl who died back in the 90-ies in Clearwater.
In US all it takes to get a police with a search warrant on site - just a phone call to 911 for help.

Serge


To: Galac_Patra@yahoogroups.com
From: basic2basic@...
Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2011 14:56:30 +0100
Subject: RE: [Galac_Patra] WHITE HOUSE PETITION RE SCIENTOLOGY

 


--- On Wed, 12/10/11, Serge Kuptsoff <serge_btm@...> wrote:

From: Serge Kuptsoff <serge_btm@...>
Subject: RE: [Galac_Patra] WHITE HOUSE PETITION RE SCIENTOLOGY
To: galac_patra@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, 12 October, 2011, 4:16

 

This is not a true data that anyone is kept against their will, or exploited and have no way out.

BB
   Its clear you don't get out much:-


  
WHITE HOUSE PETITION RE SCIENTOLOGY MORE REASONS TO SIGN

http://tinyurl.com/62eqyyl

  Corporate Scientology is even more bizarre than  anything Orwell imagined.

  Karen De La Carrierre  is trained to the highest levels with regard to Scientology
One of only 7 people. She was Married to the former President of the Church of Scientology. He is kept under lock and key and armed guards at the International headquarters. Her son has been told to "Disconnect" from her and thus she can't communicate with him.

  She has posted this below on the Ex Scientology Message Board.


   From Karen De La Carrierre

Even though this is written with satire, there is much truth to this. More than you know.

Sometimes I ponder as to how much of a sucker I have been, what was it that made me so dense ? In my last 3-4 years I paid them $250,000 !!!

I saw the out points. I witnessed the insanities, but I was tunnel visioned within the cult and could not think straight.

And what did the "Church" do as soon as I started whistleblowing on the atrocities and Miscavige ?

They built a tabloid hate web site on me within days !
That's right. $250,000 supported their OSA and PIs and the dirty Fair Game "Anonmymous" phone call to Law enforcement that I was peddling underage children for SEX !

I truly threw the gauntlet down at that point.
Nothing will stop me and my revelations.

They have my son as in disconnection, but I have a voice and I intend to speak....
Reply
 With Quote

http://www.forum.exscn.net/showthread.php?25081-IAS-Criminal-Rip-off-FRAUD-entity-sucks-it-in-no-REFUND&p=621384#post621384



#1711 From: Timecops <groups@...>
Date: Tue Oct 18, 2011 12:42 pm
Subject: global revolution channel
timecops2000
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http://www.livestream.com/globalrevolution

--


Sincerely yours, Maxim Lebedev, Moscow

http://galac-patra.org
http://timecops.org
http://webauditing.org
http://0-48.ru

phone: +7 916 299-05-59

skype: timecops
icq: 31476292

---------------------------

#1713 From: Timecops <groups@...>
Date: Mon Dec 5, 2011 7:35 am
Subject: last posts of David/Julia Mayo
timecops2000
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http://timecops.org/forum/david_mayo/index.html

--


Sincerely yours, Maxim Lebedev, Moscow

http://galac-patra.org
http://timecops.org
http://webauditing.org
http://0-48.ru

phone: +7 916 299-05-59

skype: timecops
icq: 31476292

---------------------------

#1714 From: Allen O'Brien <allen80a@...>
Date: Sat Dec 17, 2011 7:37 pm
Subject: Re: Rear LRH family picture and news
allen80a@...
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Hello there,

Yes, of course me too... as is I've been in contact with aliens years ago. I don't speak english, but you can write me in english or russian languages.

Auditor SO
Spain


From: Timecops <groups@...>
To: Galac_Patra@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2011 11:31 AM
Subject: Re: [Galac_Patra] Rear LRH family picture and news

 
well Ole, I dont know english anough, sorry.
But if you really interesting - call me by skype - timecops
Sincerely yours, Maxim Lebedev, Moscow
http://galac-patra.org
http://timecops.org
http://webauditing.org
http://timecops.narod.ru
http://0-48.ru
phones: +7 916 299-05-59
skype: timecops
icq: 31476292
---------------------------------------


Ole Gerstrom пишет:
Great to hear Maxim,

Tell us more about the contact with aliens!

Ole


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Timecops" <groups@...>
To: <freezone-alliance@yahoogroups.com>; <Galac_Patra@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, July 25, 2011 6:21 PM
Subject: [Galac_Patra] Rear LRH family picture and news


  
Hi everyone,
Enjoy this pic
http://galac-patra.org/Rons_family_from_galac-patra.pdf

and succesifull NEWS:
During last month I start to audit people who lost there bodies,
yesterday people who was under Norway island terract incident.
I start feel they and immediatly after got news from TV and  did auditing.
7 of july we got TV reporters at our home, they did film about contacts
with aliens,
that was central Russia TV channel, people start to call me ask how they
can create abilities.
This is record from my handycam only  in russian
http://timecops.dhost.ru/Elena_Lebedeva-ort-interview-aliens.avi

-- 


Sincerely yours, Maxim Lebedev, Moscow

http://galac-patra.org
http://timecops.org
http://webauditing.org
http://0-48.ru

phone: +7 916 299-05-59

skype: timecops
icq: 31476292

---------------------------





------------------------------------

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for discussions). Language - English. http://www.galac-patra.org
FREE ZONE - an area not controlled by evil organizations or implanters, 
but free to expand spiritually.

Get Skype and call for free http://www.skype.com/
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#1715 From: Timecops <groups@...>
Date: Sun Dec 18, 2011 6:21 am
Subject: Re: Rear LRH family picture and news
timecops2000
Send Email Send Email
 
hi, hope I will get your name, contact me by skype, we can use special translator for Skype
http://clownfish-translator.com/
directly translate spanish-russian, russian-spanish or any others.
_______________________________________________
hola, me contacto por el skype, podemos utilizar el traductor especial para Skype
http://clownfish-translator.com/
se traducen directamente en español-ruso, ruso-español
________________________________________________

 hallo, kontaktieren Sie mich per skype, können wir spezielle Übersetzer für Skype
http://clownfish-translator.com/
direkt übersetzen Spanisch-Russisch, Russisch-Spanisch )
Sincerely yours, Maxim Lebedev, Moscow
http://galac-patra.org
http://timecops.org
http://webauditing.org
http://0-48.ru
phone: +7 916 299-05-59 skype: timecops
icq: 31476292
---------------------------

12/17/2011 11:37 PM, Allen O'Brien ïèøåò:
Hello there,

Yes, of course me too... as is I've been in contact with aliens years ago. I don't speak english, but you can write me in english or russian languages.

Auditor SO
Spain


From: Timecops <groups@...>
To: Galac_Patra@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2011 11:31 AM
Subject: Re: [Galac_Patra] Rear LRH family picture and news

 
well Ole, I dont know english anough, sorry.
But if you really interesting - call me by skype - timecops
Sincerely yours, Maxim Lebedev, Moscow
http://galac-patra.org
http://timecops.org
http://webauditing.org
http://timecops.narod.ru
http://0-48.ru
phones: +7 916 299-05-59
skype: timecops
icq: 31476292
---------------------------------------


Ole Gerstrom ïèøåò:
Great to hear Maxim,

Tell us more about the contact with aliens!

Ole


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Timecops" <groups@...>
To: <freezone-alliance@yahoogroups.com>; <Galac_Patra@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, July 25, 2011 6:21 PM
Subject: [Galac_Patra] Rear LRH family picture and news


  
Hi everyone,
Enjoy this pic
http://galac-patra.org/Rons_family_from_galac-patra.pdf

and succesifull NEWS:
During last month I start to audit people who lost there bodies,
yesterday people who was under Norway island terract incident.
I start feel they and immediatly after got news from TV and  did auditing.
7 of july we got TV reporters at our home, they did film about contacts
with aliens,
that was central Russia TV channel, people start to call me ask how they
can create abilities.
This is record from my handycam only  in russian
http://timecops.dhost.ru/Elena_Lebedeva-ort-interview-aliens.avi

-- 


Sincerely yours, Maxim Lebedev, Moscow

http://galac-patra.org
http://timecops.org
http://webauditing.org
http://0-48.ru

phone: +7 916 299-05-59

skype: timecops
icq: 31476292

---------------------------





------------------------------------

Galac Patra international group, all information about Scientology. Sites, 
materials, news. Members - only close friends Free Zone. (Conference not 
for discussions). Language - English. http://www.galac-patra.org
FREE ZONE - an area not controlled by evil organizations or implanters, 
but free to expand spiritually.

Get Skype and call for free http://www.skype.com/
Global access to any information http://www.emule-project.net
---Yahoo! Groups Links



    
------------------------------------

Galac Patra international group, all information about Scientology. Sites, materials, news. Members - only close friends Free Zone. (Conference not for discussions). Language - English. http://www.galac-patra.org
FREE ZONE - an area not controlled by evil organizations or implanters, but free to expand spiritually.

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#1722 From: Timecops <groups@...>
Date: Thu Dec 22, 2011 4:44 am
Subject: Re: (unknown)
timecops2000
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Pat, this is of top, we cant discuss here subject iniciated by any PTS.
Sincerely yours, Maxim Lebedev, Moscow
http://galac-patra.org
http://timecops.org
http://webauditing.org
http://0-48.ru
phone: +7 916 299-05-59 skype: timecops
icq: 31476292
---------------------------

12/22/2011 3:36 AM, pat krenik ïèøåò:
Thanks for showing this to me Tim, and of course it is not true.
We apparently have an armaitaangeloftruth@... who is here to destroy.
 
Love, Pat



Wonderful Queen Sized soft cuddly blankets --make great Holiday Gifts.  Shipping to US only.  See at http://www.snugglyminkblankets.com
 

To: galac_patra@yahoogroups.com
From: timdaigle24@...
Date: Wed, 21 Dec 2011 11:27:08 -0800
Subject: RE: [Galac_Patra] (unknown)



Now there is something which I for one do NOT believe to be true!!
 
ARC
Tim Daigle
 

To: Galac_Patra@yahoogroups.com
From: armaitaangeloftruth@...
Date: Wed, 21 Dec 2011 18:54:31 +0000
Subject: [Galac_Patra] (unknown)

 
Ray Krenik and Pat Krenik belive that it is Lisa McPherson's fault that she was murdered by the cult of Scientology.
http://www.lisamcpherson.org/





#1723 From: Timecops <groups@...>
Date: Thu Dec 22, 2011 5:26 pm
Subject: skype videoconferences
timecops2000
Send Email Send Email
 
Dear members,
I use Video Service on Skype for conferences (20-24 persons) in russian
every week .
Does anybody interesting in international video conferences by skype?
I could organize it, for example on sunday near 16-00 GMT.
What do you think?

--


Sincerely yours, Maxim Lebedev, Moscow

http://galac-patra.org
http://timecops.org
http://webauditing.org
http://0-48.ru

phone: +7 916 299-05-59

skype: timecops
icq: 31476292

---------------------------

#1724 From: Tim Daigle <timdaigle24@...>
Date: Thu Dec 22, 2011 5:50 pm
Subject: RE: (unknown)
timdaigle24
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Very Well Done, Maxim, Thank you!
 
ARC
Tim Daigle
 
> To: Galac_Patra@yahoogroups.com
> From: groups@...
> Date: Wed, 21 Dec 2011 23:00:32 +0400
> Subject: Re: [Galac_Patra] (unknown)
>
> this anti-social member was deleted,
> we know who is who, keep theta.
>
> Sincerely yours, Maxim Lebedev, Moscow
>
> http://galac-patra.org
> http://timecops.org
> http://webauditing.org
> http://0-48.ru
>
> phone: +7 916 299-05-59
>
> skype: timecops
> icq: 31476292
>
> ---------------------------
>
>
>
>
> 12/21/2011 10:54 PM, armaitaangeloftruth ÐÉÛÅÔ:
> > Ray Krenik and Pat Krenik.....
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------------
> >
> > Galac Patra international group, all information about Scientology. Sites, materials, news. Members - only close friends Free Zone. (Conference not for discussions). Language - English. http://www.galac-patra.org
> > FREE ZONE - an area not controlled by evil organizations or implanters, but free to expand spiritually.
> >
> > Get Skype and call for free http://www.skype.com/
> > Global access to any information http://www.emule-project.net
> > ---Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Galac Patra international group, all information about Scientology. Sites, materials, news. Members - only close friends Free Zone. (Conference not for discussions). Language - English. http://www.galac-patra.org
> FREE ZONE - an area not controlled by evil organizations or implanters, but free to expand spiritually.
>
> Get Skype and call for free http://www.skype.com/
> Global access to any information http://www.emule-project.net
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>
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#1725 From: pat krenik <p_krenik@...>
Date: Thu Dec 22, 2011 10:31 pm
Subject: RE: (unknown)
p_krenik
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thank you.  It has turned out that she is just a student trying to write about Scn. is reading statements by others who are misduplicating.
 
Still, we don't need her on the list, because she is passing untruths around.
 
Pat 
 
 



Wonderful Queen Sized soft cuddly blankets --make great Holiday Gifts.  Shipping to US only.  See at http://www.snugglyminkblankets.com
 
> To: Galac_Patra@yahoogroups.com
> From: groups@...
> Date: Wed, 21 Dec 2011 23:00:32 +0400
> Subject: Re: [Galac_Patra] (unknown)
>
> this anti-social member was deleted,
> we know who is who, keep theta.
>
> Sincerely yours, Maxim Lebedev, Moscow
>
> http://galac-patra.org
> http://timecops.org
> http://webauditing.org
> http://0-48.ru
>
> phone: +7 916 299-05-59
>
> skype: timecops
> icq: 31476292
>
> ---------------------------
>
>
>
>
> 12/21/2011 10:54 PM, armaitaangeloftruth ÐÉÛÅÔ:
> > Ray Krenik and Pat Krenik.....
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------------
> >
> > Galac Patra international group, all information about Scientology. Sites, materials, news. Members - only close friends Free Zone. (Conference not for discussions). Language - English. http://www.galac-patra.org
> > FREE ZONE - an area not controlled by evil organizations or implanters, but free to expand spiritually.
> >
> > Get Skype and call for free http://www.skype.com/
> > Global access to any information http://www.emule-project.net
> > ---Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Galac Patra international group, all information about Scientology. Sites, materials, news. Members - only close friends Free Zone. (Conference not for discussions). Language - English. http://www.galac-patra.org
> FREE ZONE - an area not controlled by evil organizations or implanters, but free to expand spiritually.
>
> Get Skype and call for free http://www.skype.com/
> Global access to any information http://www.emule-project.net
> ---Yahoo! Groups Links
>
> <*> To visit your group on the web, go to:
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>
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#1726 From: Timecops <groups@...>
Date: Sat Dec 31, 2011 9:31 am
Subject: Happy New Year
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Happy New Year!
Wish you prosprity and Spiritual Freedom
I sing the song
http://galac-patra.org/timecops-take_that-reaching_out.mp3

Reaching out

If our arms were reaching out
if our words could only bridge the doubt
will we lose this chance again?
Strange roads with different signs
Don’t even know where we divide
Are you my enemy or my friend?

‘Cause I don’t know you
and you don’t know me
it’s the same sun rising
we all just look to the sky
if we try
we can work it out somehow
if you don’t know me
and I don’t know you
how can we be fighting
we’re all connected it’s true
reaching out
it’s only love that pulls us through.

We all grieve in different ways
If one tears could wash away the pain
We’re all free to have the faith we believe, yeah
The world sleeps at different times
With one turn your day is now my night
We all live sharing the air that we breathe.

Reaching out, reaching high
Reaching out
Touching me.

If our arms were reaching out
Il our words could only bridge the doubt.

-- Sincerely yours, Maxim Lebedev, Moscow
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http://timecops.org
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phone: +7 916 299-05-59 skype: timecops
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#1727 From: Josef Sharon <nmontenero8@...>
Date: Sat Dec 31, 2011 1:52 pm
Subject: Re: Happy New Year
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THANKS AND HAPPY NEW YEAR TO YOU TOO!!!!


From: Timecops <groups@...>
To: Galac_Patra@yahoogroups.com; freezone-alliance@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, 31 December 2011, 9:31
Subject: [Galac_Patra] Happy New Year

 
Happy New Year!
Wish you prosprity and Spiritual Freedom
I sing the song
http://galac-patra.org/timecops-take_that-reaching_out.mp3
Reaching out
If our arms were reaching out
if our words could only bridge the doubt
will we lose this chance again?
Strange roads with different signs
Don’t even know where we divide
Are you my enemy or my friend?
‘Cause I don’t know you
and you don’t know me
it’s the same sun rising
we all just look to the sky
if we try
we can work it out somehow
if you don’t know me
and I don’t know you
how can we be fighting
we’re all connected it’s true
reaching out
it’s only love that pulls us through.
We all grieve in different ways
If one tears could wash away the pain
We’re all free to have the faith we believe, yeah
The world sleeps at different times
With one turn your day is now my night
We all live sharing the air that we breathe.
Reaching out, reaching high
Reaching out
Touching me.
If our arms were reaching out
Il our words could only bridge the doubt.
-- Sincerely yours, Maxim Lebedev, Moscow
http://galac-patra.org
http://timecops.org
http://webauditing.org
http://0-48.ru
phone: +7 916 299-05-59 skype: timecops
icq: 31476292
---------------------------



#1728 From: "Gnosis" <cygnifique@...>
Date: Sat Dec 31, 2011 9:45 pm
Subject: Re: Happy New Year
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Thank you, Maxim.  I got the message that "To Know and To Be Known" is the
highest harmonic of "To love -- To be loved".  These enlightened estates to be
regained only with much labor, willingness to do the work

To more loving choices in 2012,

colleen

--- In Galac_Patra@yahoogroups.com, Timecops <groups@...> wrote:
>
> Happy New Year!
> Wish you prosprity and Spiritual Freedom
> I sing the song
> http://galac-patra.org/timecops-take_that-reaching_out.mp3
>
> Reaching out
>
> If our arms were reaching out
> if our words could only bridge the doubt
> will we lose this chance again?
> Strange roads with different signs
> Don�t even know where we divide
> Are you my enemy or my friend?
>
> �Cause I don�t know you
> and you don�t know me
> it�s the same sun rising
> we all just look to the sky
> if we try
> we can work it out somehow
> if you don�t know me
> and I don�t know you
> how can we be fighting
> we�re all connected it�s true
> reaching out
> it�s only love that pulls us through.
>
> We all grieve in different ways
> If one tears could wash away the pain
> We�re all free to have the faith we believe, yeah
> The world sleeps at different times
> With one turn your day is now my night
> We all live sharing the air that we breathe.
>
> Reaching out, reaching high
> Reaching out
> Touching me.
>
> If our arms were reaching out
> Il our words could only bridge the doubt.
>
> --
>
>
> Sincerely yours, Maxim Lebedev, Moscow
>
> http://galac-patra.org
> http://timecops.org
> http://webauditing.org
> http://0-48.ru
>
> phone: +7 916 299-05-59
>
> skype: timecops
> icq: 31476292
>
> ---------------------------
>

#1729 From: Marina <freet43@...>
Date: Sat Dec 31, 2011 11:34 pm
Subject: Re: Happy New Year
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Happy New Year to you Maxim!

And to everyone here, best wishes for a wonderful New Year!

Marina


From: Timecops <groups@...>
To: Galac_Patra@yahoogroups.com; freezone-alliance@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, December 31, 2011 1:31 AM
Subject: [Galac_Patra] Happy New Year

 
Happy New Year!
Wish you prosprity and Spiritual Freedom
I sing the song
http://galac-patra.org/timecops-take_that-reaching_out.mp3
Reaching out
If our arms were reaching out
if our words could only bridge the doubt
will we lose this chance again?
Strange roads with different signs
Don’t even know where we divide
Are you my enemy or my friend?
‘Cause I don’t know you
and you don’t know me
it’s the same sun rising
we all just look to the sky
if we try
we can work it out somehow
if you don’t know me
and I don’t know you
how can we be fighting
we’re all connected it’s true
reaching out
it’s only love that pulls us through.
We all grieve in different ways
If one tears could wash away the pain
We’re all free to have the faith we believe, yeah
The world sleeps at different times
With one turn your day is now my night
We all live sharing the air that we breathe.
Reaching out, reaching high
Reaching out
Touching me.
If our arms were reaching out
Il our words could only bridge the doubt.
-- Sincerely yours, Maxim Lebedev, Moscow
http://galac-patra.org
http://timecops.org
http://webauditing.org
http://0-48.ru
phone: +7 916 299-05-59 skype: timecops
icq: 31476292
---------------------------



#1731 From: Tom Smith <atomsmitty@...>
Date: Mon Jan 23, 2012 8:11 pm
Subject: Russian scientist claims signs of life spotted on Venus
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#1732 From: Timecops <groups@...>
Date: Wed Feb 1, 2012 12:36 pm
Subject: question from scientologist
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hello
I finish my training levels from 0 to IV and NED in agost, and i am auditing newcomers mostly as part of my intership but my ideal scneario would be to have a twin to coaudit form 0 or NEd to level IV as part of the intership.
I have done only the pUrif and objectives and very succesful auditing of book one so i would start from 0.
 
i live in Spain but i guess we could move and go to a center for cramming onece in a while
 
if you know someone in my same condition, please let me know.
 
thank you
best regards
covadonga
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#1736 From: Timecops <groups@...>
Date: Mon Feb 20, 2012 5:06 pm
Subject: Complete Your Bridge
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"Complete Your Bridge" is a website for Scientologists who keep working at their case, independent from the pressures and regulations in their former church. Specifically it deals with Actual GPMs, the part of the case that Ron Hubbard saw as its core. We use DEEP Character Clearing (DCC), a new type of processing, for the handling of GPMs. We are also organizing the auditor training necessary to run this new technology. We are using Scientology terms throughout this site. If you are not familiar with them, you can find a glossary here.

Disclaimer

Presented by Clearbird

 

 

  DEEP Character Clearing (DCC)       Frequently Asked Questions (FAQ)       Contact 

  Technical Background        References        GPM Articles        GPM Glossary       DCC Success Reports        DCC Videos   

 

 

The Biggest New Step towards OT and Spiritual Freedom:

Gain a New Level of Ability to Be, Do and Have

Through DEEP Character Clearing

Life is a game. Sometimes we are good at playing and having fun; sometimes we are not, and things get really tough! In DEEP Character Clearing we see life as a multitude of games we engage in. Our existence as Thetans, as free Beings, through the ages is a long series of interwoven games. Some we won, some we lost and some are still ongoing. We have played our favourite games for millions of years. We learned, as well as we could, to become good players. We worked out  the hat, the role or identity the game required. Some of these games with their roles and identities are forgotten but still ongoing in our reactive minds. We are still playing out roles of the past without knowing it.

      Life is a multitude of games. We tend to get stuck in those roles that once were successful and those of past unresolved conflicts.   

The games and battles we hold onto reactively are those that once seemed very successful and those that never resolved. Unknowingly we hold on to our own fixated roles as players of these games. Such an identity may now exist only as an attitude or as a state of mind. We get stuck in our outdated successes. We blame our failures on opponents we couldn't understand or handle, and we keep a vivid record of the person's mean character.  Unknowingly we now end up in the same situations, conditions and relationships over and over. Our lives have gone stuck in boring or unpleasant routines. In some areas we almost got wiped out.

There is a Way Out

Through  DEEP Character Clearing, a new ground-breaking type of processing, we can move past that. We can isolate these states of mind,
roles and shadow identities and get them fully inspected. We process our own reactive role and that of the opponent in past and present major disagreements and conflicts.  As a result, the person moves out of fixed conditions with their irrational fears, aggressions, repeated failures, and self abasement.  The person moves out of own repeated wrong-doings and unnecessary aggressions, own shortcomings, embarrassments and lack of courage when it really matters. We, once again, can play games that are fun! We can enjoy life from a new level of ability.  We can be what we are capable of being; we can playfully do what the chosen game calls for; and we can successfully obtain the desired result of the chosen game or pursuit!

What's New in DEEP Character Clearing?

Ron Hubbard's tech as it exists today does not fully address identities. There is power and destiny locked up in identities and much of it is counter-productive or reactive. In DEEP Character Clearing we address these reactive identities directly, and that opens the gate to the upper Bridge.

We researched the 1960'ies tech, the material that Ron Hubbard called GPM tech, and also a type of processing called Effort processing that was begun in 1951. By redeveloping and refining Effort processing, that had become a truly lost tech, and applying it to identities, as we found them in the abandoned GPM tech, we have brought about a fantastic technical breakthrough that opens the door to new levels of OT. Ron said that the GPM case was at the core of the bank and that the handling of one central identity and its opponent in a GPM (meaning one polarity in a bigger pattern) would equal the handling of thousands of engrams.

DEEP Character Clearing is the tech that handles dozens of such identities fully and straightens out and cleans up the reactive games played by these dramatizing or beaten down players. You can indeed have your own case and core problems addressed after Clear. And you can fully release the charge and trapped life energy from the goals and identities found. The DEEP techniques are unique here. They are a new development based on studies, tests and refinements of Ron Hubbard's Effort processing.

 

The author of the Clearbird materials has completed his work on another milestone of processing technology - the missing level of "Actual GPMs"

Who Are We?

Heidrun Beer, assistant to Clearbird and webmaster of this site

DEEP Character Clearing (DCC) has been developed by the same Class VIII auditor who wrote the famous Clearbird Materials, assisted by his partner Heidrun Beer, who is also the author of this website. Both have been active in the independent field for many years. Their cooperation started in 2009; since 2010 they are delivering processing and training as a team, currently with bases in Denmark and Austria.

As of this date (early 2012), we are the only two people who can deliver this important processing.  Until we have trained more auditors, our capacity is limited - so please make sure that you book your sessions ahead of time.

Trained auditors interested in the training will be given priority for receiving sessions. We want to prevent any delivery bottleneck. To receive more information, please use our Contact Form, or send us an e-mail to info@....

 

 

Disclaimer: This website is in no way affiliated with, or endorsed by the Church of Scientology. The processing technology presented here is an independent new development that has no parallel in any services offered by the Church of Scientology.

SOURCE: http://completeyourbridge.org/index.html

-- Sincerely yours, Maxim Lebedev, Moscow
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#1737 From: Timecops <groups@...>
Date: Fri Mar 2, 2012 10:34 am
Subject: new design www.0-48.ru
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hi, check new design website of alliance http://0-48.ru

--


Sincerely yours, Maxim Lebedev, Moscow

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http://0-48.ru

phones: +7 916 299-05-59
          +7 926 219-02-53

skype: timecops
icq: 31476292

---------------------------

#1738 From: pat krenik <p_krenik@...>
Date: Fri Mar 2, 2012 6:00 pm
Subject: RE: new design www.0-48.ru
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Very beautiful!  Wow.  Great picture of LRH.
 
You might want to add http://community.freezone-tech.info to your list of contacts.
 
Love, Pat



 
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#1739 From: "Aich Zed" <hz@...>
Date: Wed Mar 14, 2012 3:18 pm
Subject: Looking for information on a certain process.
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Recently in some of the CBR material I came across a reference to a process
called 3DXX or 3D criss cross. If someone could point me to a copy of the
original data on this process I would appreciate it very much.

Thank you,

Herb

#1740 From: Tim Daigle <timdaigle24@...>
Date: Wed Mar 14, 2012 5:09 pm
Subject: RE: Looking for information on a certain process.
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Hi Herb!
 
If you have a Tech Dictionary, under routine 3D on page 362 you will find the references
A couple of the references in there are: SHSBC Tape #139,82, and 137.
 
If you do not have a copy of the dictionary, email me back channel if you wish.
 
ARC
Tim Daigle
 
 
 

To: Galac_Patra@yahoogroups.com
From: hz@...
Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2012 15:18:26 +0000
Subject: [Galac_Patra] Looking for information on a certain process.

 
Recently in some of the CBR material I came across a reference to a process called 3DXX or 3D criss cross. If someone could point me to a copy of the original data on this process I would appreciate it very much.

Thank you,

Herb



#1741 From: "Gnosis" <cygnifique@...>
Date: Thu Mar 15, 2012 4:44 pm
Subject: Re: Looking for information on a certain process.
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It's a "wrong way" to find your "junior goals packages", my experience anyways. 
A rough road.  If you don't get the exact right opposer, and looking into your
own mind, which is full of lies, to find the correct opposer, PLUS not taking
into account complementary goal sets.  There were some casualties and PCs used
to blow, turn green, etc.  That's about the time Dennis H. Stephens left
(already clear), author of the TROM manual.  The correct junior goal sets can be
found in his write-up online.

If I'm wrong or got the wrong process, correction(s) welcome  :-)



--- In Galac_Patra@yahoogroups.com, Tim Daigle <timdaigle24@...> wrote:
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> Hi Herb! If you have a Tech Dictionary, under routine 3D on page 362 you will
find the referencesA couple of the references in there are: SHSBC Tape #139,82,
and 137. If you do not have a copy of the dictionary, email me back channel if
you wish. ARCTim Daigle
>  To: Galac_Patra@yahoogroups.com
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> Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2012 15:18:26 +0000
> Subject: [Galac_Patra] Looking for information on a certain process.
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#1742 From: pat krenik <p_krenik@...>
Date: Fri Mar 16, 2012 3:33 am
Subject: RE: Re: Looking for information on a certain process.
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Hi.  None of that material is cancelled, but it takes a deep understanding of all the materials to make it workable.  LRH shifted to Implant Goals because it was too hard to get the pc's own goal with the implant look-a-likes in the way.  Also the upper level materials hadn't been found.
 
So now with the knowledge we have we would have to insure that any of the materials in the 60s to do with GPMs were true reads for the pc's own case.
 
Pat
 
 



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> To: Galac_Patra@yahoogroups.com
> From: cygnifique@...
> Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2012 16:44:44 +0000
> Subject: [Galac_Patra] Re: Looking for information on a certain process.
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> It's a "wrong way" to find your "junior goals packages", my experience anyways. A rough road. If you don't get the exact right opposer, and looking into your own mind, which is full of lies, to find the correct opposer, PLUS not taking into account complementary goal sets. There were some casualties and PCs used to blow, turn green, etc. That's about the time Dennis H. Stephens left (already clear), author of the TROM manual. The correct junior goal sets can be found in his write-up online.
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> --- In Galac_Patra@yahoogroups.com, Tim Daigle <timdaigle24@...> wrote:
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> > To: Galac_Patra@yahoogroups.com
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#1743 From: "Gnosis" <cygnifique@...>
Date: Fri Mar 16, 2012 5:56 pm
Subject: Re: Looking for information on a certain process.
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My auditor and I were discussing this post and he sent this link to me to help
me have a brief overview of the history of Early Dianetics and Scientology.

http://www.dasdrittejahrtausend.de/Historie1961bis-e.html

#1744 From: pat krenik <p_krenik@...>
Date: Sun Mar 18, 2012 8:30 pm
Subject: RE: Re: Looking for information on a certain process.
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LOL, LRH only put light workable techniques that made gains on almost any pc in the HGC.  He wasn't going to scare of public with flubby GPM handling!
 
I think it was about that time when the Problems Intensive for HGC came out.
 
Pat



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> To: Galac_Patra@yahoogroups.com
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> Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2012 17:56:02 +0000
> Subject: [Galac_Patra] Re: Looking for information on a certain process.
>
> My auditor and I were discussing this post and he sent this link to me to help me have a brief overview of the history of Early Dianetics and Scientology.
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#1745 From: Timecops <timecops@...>
Date: Mon Mar 19, 2012 7:07 pm
Subject: Maxim Lebedev - web-auditing - present technology and the future
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hRkjD4YmhPo

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#1746 From: "Gnosis" <cygnifique@...>
Date: Thu Mar 22, 2012 1:19 am
Subject: Re: Maxim Lebedev - web-auditing - present technology and the future
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Hello Maxim, very happy to see you breaking down these two barriers to receiving
and delivering auditing services.  One hundred percent of the Skype auditing I
received and delivered has been without video or web cam with no complaints.



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#1748 From: Timecops <groups@...>
Date: Fri Apr 27, 2012 5:43 pm
Subject: Per Schioettz: From Freedom to Fear - and Back
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March 23, 2011

by Per Schioettz

"SP" - "PTS" Series 1

In 1968 I started in DK Org on the communications Course. There was a fantastic free atmosphere and a lot of joy and fun. There were many people in the organization every evening doing drills, talking, discussing, having sessions and doing courses and listening to old timers lecturing. It was the first time I was in such an uptone group with so much fun. The attitude to others in the group and to people outside the group was very friendly; people were looked at as friends and as people one could really give a hand with what one had learned. The term "Suppressive Person" was never heard of, was never voiced and lived a very non visible life maybe in some hidden policy letter or the background of one single persons mind.

This went on for a couple of years and then I went onto the Briefing Course. This was THE technical course to do those days. We were more than a hundred students every day. I studied from 9 to18 every day, seven days a week. We were all studying and auditing and also listening to "The Wall of Tapes" some 700 taped lectures by L Ron Hubbard. This was also a fantastic time. It was a very international course and I made friends from all over the world, and several of those are still my friends and we still keep in touch.

This was a technical course with a lot of stress on "red on white" (tech) and not very much interest in most of "green on white" (policy) meaning rules and regulations. In fact there was an attitude that "green on white" was for admin staff only. We, the tech people, didn't "lower" ourselves to such trivial pastime as reading policy. (If we could avoid it, we would rather work with the real thing "The Tech").

I leaned the effect of that attitude the hard way when I one year later found myself as HGC auditor in Cop Org. I had problems with one PC and got into some kind of fight with the C/S. Those days when C/Ses couldn't get a case to fly, it was, as a routine, assumed that the auditors TRs or metering were out. Mine were NOT. I did endless TRs and meter drills, the case still didn't budge.

Finally the C/S and I went to Athena, situated in Copenhagen Harbour. Athena was the training and cramming vessel for Europe. The C/S and I showed up with the PCs folder. Merle Goodman and Judy Thiery were the people running the course and cramming operation of the ship, and they were GOOD. They were also the first people to observe and report to Ron about the language barrier in Europe.

When they had interviewed the C/S and me and studied the auditing in the folder they said: "Gentlemen, you are going to confront some "green on white !!" " Bang! (What's this? What do they mean? We are tech guys - please). Slowly it dawned on both of us that somewhere remotely hidden away in the dark backside of our sculls were a very unfamiliar subject called "resistive cases" and between those, one called "PTS"... This was an eye opener for us looking at this phenomenon from a tech point of view. We studied the stuff, and had some great wins and relief now knowing that we could not necessarily handle every one case in the universe. This was our reality and a huge change for us.

Around the same time people started talking about "SP"s and how awful they were and how they totally messed up the games for others in general and us specifically because we were in the freeing game, "which they hate".

I was very puzzled about this. One of the main reasons I had "gone into" Scientology was the saying: "Man is basically good". But apparently here were some who were not basically good but basically evil. "SP"s are basically bad! There was no mistaking this, and there was no end to all the blame they were given, even for our own mistakes. Awful. I remember in 1982 when I had finally left the Sea Org, my X-wife was struggling on OT III, being in fear of any connection to anyone, who might be an "SP" and she would be sent to ethics and taken off her auditing. New confessionals, new eligibility checks etc. etc. costing endlessly. How can you go free when operating in a tone level of Fear? Or even attempt that?

This fear of the "SP"s even though they were only considered being about 2 1/2 percent of the population, caused endless speculations and conspiracy theories even within this "Church". The fear and suspicion became worse and worse. Ron pointed out that these cats and the psychiatrists were the enemies of Scientology and his operations. THEY were the reason Scn. didn't expand faster etc. etc. When the Data Series came out I could really see this as a "Why is God". And I always wondered that he didn't see this himself. He really had a blind spot there. But actually, that is what is to be expected when someone makes himself smaller because of others communications, opinions, behaviours, etc., etc.. You don't see clearly anymore. (And a wrong indication only makes things worse).

"Disconnect or handle" was the watch word, and neither of them worked very well if at all. Disconnection can only have temporarily effect in case you take the person out of a very restimulative area, but you still have to handle HIS situation sooner or later. (Or rather HE has to). The usual handling is mostly running rudiments with the PC at effect, poor sod, see what they did to you. Doesn't work.

With the New Era of Free Tech it has become possible to handle these situations with the client at CAUSE. Handling with the client at EFFECT only, in my opinion and experience, makes the negative aspects more solid and he will not get out of it until he takes responsibility as CAUSE.

Many of my clients have proven this point to great satisfaction. No more proof is needed. There should be no more looking back. There is no more need to fear any of these so-called SPs. There is a way back, or forward to freedom again.

Everybody are members of "fields". Spiritually connected by similar attitudes, ideas, experiences etc. If you handle a person's negative contribution to a field, the others, being connected to the same field, will lose the negativism too. The field will turn more positive. This is the reason that you will have the PTS clients "SP"s turn to him again, but this time in a positive way. This is one of the EPs I see daily and which was promoted in the "Church" but I never saw it there. Now it is available to anyone and everyone who wants to recreate the freedom, or rather to live the freedom again, because freedom is the NATURAL state, not being PTS. You are BIG. You are FREE. You are YOU...

All MATERIALS  http://www.ivymag.org/WebIVy/PerSchioettz.htm
-- Sincerely yours, Maxim Lebedev, Moscow
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#1749 From: "Gnosis" <cygnifique@...>
Date: Sat Apr 28, 2012 10:19 pm
Subject: Re: Per Schioettz: From Freedom to Fear - and Back
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Hello Per, I like how you explained it as a "field" in your last paragraph.

best,
colleen

#1750 From: Timecops <groups@...>
Date: Tue May 1, 2012 7:12 pm
Subject: our rest on the river Oka
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http://timecops.dhost.ru/na-oke.mpg

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