... From: "Monk Augustine" <fatheraugustine@...> To: <Irenikon@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2008 6:04 PM Subject: [Irenikon] Re: Interesting ...
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Lou Pizzuti
loupizzuti
Jul 1, 2008 11:40 am
On what authority did St. Nicodemus assert that neither Christ nor Adam (before the fall) had imagination? Monk Augustine <fatheraugustine@...> wrote:...
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Mary Lanser
anarch16803
Jul 1, 2008 1:26 pm
Dear monk Augustine, This is quite a fine bit of analysis and advisement and admonishment. I think it would be quite possible to speculate as you say St. ...
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Monk Augustine
fatheraugustine
Jul 1, 2008 10:29 pm
... and what took place in Rome. The first of all Orthodox bishops has shown us what is posible and what he permits. ... The prohibitions were not put forward...
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Vatican Information S...
theavatar0
Jul 1, 2008 11:42 pm
07.01.2008 - Eighteenth Year - Num. 124 SUMMARY: - Pope to Travel to Castelgandolfo Tomorrow - Combating Poverty. Building Peace - Benedict XVI's Prayer...
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ocarmphil
Jul 1, 2008 11:53 pm
Hi Mary! If my recollection is correct, isn't Teresa of Avila advice the use of imagination in meditation? Ruel ... admonishment. ... often ... Joy in ... have...
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lexcaritas
Jul 1, 2008 11:56 pm
May I say that the tone and spirit of this thread greatly saddens. We pray in every Ektania for the union of all men. We are instructed by our Lord Himself to...
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Monk Augustine
fatheraugustine
Jul 2, 2008 12:31 am
For Adam's freedom from impressions of the imagination, St. Nikodemos quotes St. Maximus the Confessor's Second Century of Theology (75th chapter), where...
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Mary Lanser
anarch16803
Jul 2, 2008 12:46 am
She warns against fantasy. She suggests that one may use an iconic image to meditate upon in times of contemplative prayer but her cautions against using...
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Monk Augustine
fatheraugustine
Jul 2, 2008 12:58 am
Dear Mary, I'm glad we agree on a topic! Thanks for the kind words. ... Indeed - in fact, I think the Cloud of Unknowing and the writings of St. John of the...
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Monk Augustine
fatheraugustine
Jul 2, 2008 2:19 am
... instructed ... curse ... I am not advocating that we should not pray for Roman Catholics. I am saying that we cannot concelebrate liturgical services with...
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ann_garner
Jul 2, 2008 3:14 am
I have checked at the *official* ROCOR web site, at the OCA web site, and at the Moscow Patriarchate's web site. So far, we have received no official reaction...
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emrys@...
maincin
Jul 2, 2008 4:29 am
Dear Father Augustine, In light of the concrete reality of what took place on Sunday in Rome (actually it was the second time but it had more publicity) you...
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emrys@...
maincin
Jul 2, 2008 8:42 am
Pauline Year: The Ecumenical Dream of Pope Benedict http://chiesa.espresso.repubblica.it/articolo/205564?eng=y Together with the patriarch of Constantinople,...
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Mary Lanser
anarch16803
Jul 2, 2008 12:37 pm
Why is it that nobody ever presumes that it is possible that the schism itself and its continuance is a product of human error, pride, fear, or missed...
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Lou Pizzuti
loupizzuti
Jul 2, 2008 12:44 pm
Because, my dear, there was one side in the schism that was absolutely and completely pristine, without fault, and remains so to this day, never having had an...
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emrys@...
maincin
Jul 2, 2008 12:51 pm
... From: "Mary Lanser" <mel5@...> ... schism itself and its continuance is a product of human error, pride, fear, or missed understandings caused by...
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Lou Pizzuti
loupizzuti
Jul 2, 2008 1:05 pm
Father, This may come as a shock to you, but this was lifted 42-1/2 years ago Mutual Lifting of Excommunications between Pope Paul VI and Patriarch Athenagoras...
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Monk Augustine
fatheraugustine
Jul 2, 2008 1:09 pm
... make human mistakes, I ... breaking communion within ... I agree with you, Ann, it would be sad for schisms to develop within Orthodoxy - but, it is also...
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emrys@...
maincin
Jul 2, 2008 1:12 pm
I've never understood how they were lifted, from the Roman side. I've always heard Catholics say they were invalid from the get-go since the Pope who had...
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emrys@...
maincin
Jul 2, 2008 1:16 pm
Apropos! 24 hours ago Rome lifted the canonical censures on all the priests of the Transalpine Redemptorists. I mention this happy news because the head of...
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emrys@...
maincin
Jul 2, 2008 1:26 pm
Source: http://papastronsay.blogspot.com/index.html ... From: emrys@... To: Irenikon@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2008 1:15 AM Subject:...
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Mary Lanser
anarch16803
Jul 2, 2008 1:34 pm
Idiocy!! And its been back and forth like this ever since. This is worth the sin of schism? All morning I've been looking for the book that recounts the...
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Mary Lanser
anarch16803
Jul 2, 2008 1:37 pm
LOL....ease off Lou..<chuckle>; There's very little that comes as a shock to monk Ambrose NZ any more, except maybe his own propensity to yield to temptations...
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Monk Augustine
fatheraugustine
Jul 2, 2008 1:37 pm
... pride, ... I am quite sure that those of us who believe the schism is appropriate at this time believe that these are precisely the causes for the schism...
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Lou Pizzuti
loupizzuti
Jul 2, 2008 1:47 pm
Ecce quam bonum et quam jucundum, habitare fratres in unum! 2 Sicut unguentum in capite, quod descendit in barbam, barbam Aaron, quod descendit in oram...
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Mary Lanser
anarch16803
Jul 2, 2008 2:13 pm
Yes. There is no objective sin of premature reunion. Schism is inherently and objectively sinful in the order of revealed truth. There is no such parallel in...
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Mary Lanser
anarch16803
Jul 2, 2008 2:28 pm
Saint John (Maximovitch) The Wonderworker, Of Shanghai and San Francisco Troparion to St John Tone 6 Glorious apostle to an age of coldness and unbelief,/...
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ann_garner
Jul 2, 2008 2:28 pm
... Mary, My own personal sentiments agree with a huge percentage of your own on these subjects. However, I am taught to wait upon the teachings of the Church...
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ann_garner
Jul 2, 2008 2:40 pm
Dear Father Ambrose, I have been wanting to ask an Orthodox priest this question since this discussion started here on the list: How is the EP's recent action...
