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does anyone know if airfares get cheaper in march to go home?  I have only travelled at christmas so I am hoping and a good place to get cheap airfare?

 

elise

 

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Thanks for the info Gene.  It seems that my AT&T phone even though it
has a simm card, is locked.  Could not get AT&T to unlock it.

I could use my phone with the AT&T simm but the cost was going to be
$2.40 per min.  Can't remember if it was NZD or USD.

On another semi related topic - I had trouble finding any free wi-fi in
NZ.  I just purchased a sniffer so finding open bandwidth should be
easier next trip.

Anyone familiar with Wi-Fi in NZ outside of Wellington?

Bob

Gene Wilkins wrote:

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> I just returned from a fabulous trip home for Xmas and New Year.  So
> hot in ChCh  Yes <http://www.smileycentral.com/?partner=ZSzeb001> --
> temps ranging from 25-40C (77-104F) -- more like Feb/Mar weather than
> December.  Even flew back on the "Frodo" Air NZ plane.
>
> A month or so ago, someone (was it Bob Brewer?) was inquiring about
> using cell phones in NZ, and possibly renting Sim cards.  The answer
> is yes, you can rent a NZ cellphone or take your US phone (if it uses
> a sim card) and rent a NZ simcard.   Apart from free incoming calls on
> this plan, the cost for outgoing calls seemed about the same as my
> t-mobile costs.  Anyway, check out  www.vodafone.co.nz
> <http://www.vodafone.co.nz>.
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> Happy New Year to everyone
> Gene
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Sean -

Did I miss something - The lowest fares I saw were almost double what we
paid in October / November - $499 RT Air New Zealand.

If fares are that low, I'm going again but with an even weaker Yankee
Dollar.

Bob Brewer

sean A wrote:

> Log on to Airnewzealand.com and look up their specials currently -
> there are some great fares for off peak in March
>
> Sean
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> Digest Number 775 >Date: Wed, 31 Dec 2003 22:36:48 EST > >does anyone
> know if airfares get cheaper in march to go home?  I have only
> >travelled at christmas so I am hoping and a good place to get cheap
> airfare? > >elise > >happy new year
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Thanks for the info Gene. It seems that my AT&T phone even though it
has a simm card, is locked. Could not get AT&T to unlock it.

I could use my phone with the AT&T simm but the cost was going to be
$2.40 per min. Can't remember if it was NZD or USD.

On another semi related topic - I had trouble finding any free wi-fi in
NZ. I just purchased a sniffer so finding open bandwidth should be
easier next trip.

Anyone familiar with Wi-Fi in NZ outside of Wellington?

Bob

Gene Wilkins wrote:

>
> I just returned from a fabulous trip home for Xmas and New Year. So
> hot in ChCh Yes --
> temps ranging from 25-40C (77-104F) -- more like Feb/Mar weather than
> December. Even flew back on the "Frodo" Air NZ plane.
>
> A month or so ago, someone (was it Bob Brewer?) was inquiring about
> using cell phones in NZ, and possibly renting Sim cards. The answer
> is yes, you can rent a NZ cellphone or take your US phone (if it uses
> a sim card) and rent a NZ simcard. Apart from free incoming calls on
> this plan, the cost for outgoing calls seemed about the same as my
> t-mobile costs. Anyway, check out www.vodafone.co.nz
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Thanks Donna -

What really ticks me off is ... I specifically asked when I purchased
the phone if I could use it in NZ.  The salesman told me yes.
  Unfortunately, he no longer works where I purchased the phone.

Bob

sassyangelkiwi wrote:

> I have found that most cell phone companies in USA the telephones are
> simlocked, but hopefully with the new law passed ( where you can keep
> your # when changing servers) this might abate somewhat. Its allwas
> good when buying a cellphone to ask if the phone is simlocked. I have
> been asking this for 3 years now after reading about the pratices of
> various companies.
> Donna
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> bob brewer <bobb@...> wrote:
>
>     Thanks for the info Gene. It seems that my AT&T phone even though it
>     has a simm card, is locked. Could not get AT&T to unlock it.
>
>     I could use my phone with the AT&T simm but the cost was going to be
>     $2.40 per min. Can't remember if it was NZD or USD.
>
>     On another semi related topic - I had trouble finding any free
>     wi-fi in
>     NZ. I just purchased a sniffer so finding open bandwidth should be
>     easier next trip.
>
>     Anyone familiar with Wi-Fi in NZ outside of Wellington?
>
>     Bob
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>     > temps ranging from 25-40C (77-104F) -- more like Feb/Mar weather
>     than
>     > December. Even flew back on the "Frodo" Air NZ plane.
>     >
>     > A month or so ago, someone (was it Bob Brewer?) was inquiring about
>     > using cell phones in NZ, and possibly renting Sim cards. The answer
>     > is yes, you can rent a NZ cellphone or take your US phone (if it
>     uses
>     > a sim card) and rent a NZ simcard. Apart from free incoming
>     calls on
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Good info Dave - I've been interested in T-mobile because of their
Starbucks / Boarders / Kinkos Wi-Fi.  Do you know if T-mobile provides
any Wi-Fi in NZ?

Bob B.

David wrote:

> I have had two T-mobile phones that I have not had an issue getting
> the simlock removed. For that reason I am a committed T-mobile customer.
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Q: "What is the difference between a car salesman and a computer
salesman?'

A: "The car salesman knows when he is lying".

(Applies to cellphone salesmen too).

Neil

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From: bob brewer

Thanks Donna -

What really ticks me off is ... I specifically asked when I purchased
the phone if I could use it in NZ.  The salesman told me yes.
Unfortunately, he no longer works where I purchased the phone.

Bob

I have T Mobile Hotspot on my account in the USA, When I was last over in
the UK last year I discovered that the USA account does not work overseas.
As far as I am aware T Mobile is not in NZ.
Most Hotspot providers allow you to buy a day or even hour pass.
I usually just buy a prey pay sim if I am overseas as that means that you
get a local number so people don't have to ring your USA # to get hold of
you. Also usually the local call rate is cheaper than the T Mobile roaming
rate e.g. Vodafone NZ rate was NZ$.99 last time I was there.

Dave

Just because a wireless network is 'open' doesn't give you the right to
use it if it is not intended for public use. Yes I know its very
careless of someone who hasn't taken even basic steps to secure their
network. Its similar to if you see a house or car unlocked. Its
careless on the part of the owner and they might not get much sympathy
from the police or whoever but it still doesn't give you the right to
move in.

Cheers
Ross


--- bob brewer <bobb@...> wrote:
> On another semi related topic - I had trouble finding any free wi-fi
> in
> NZ.  I just purchased a sniffer so finding open bandwidth should be
> easier next trip.


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Unlike Gene I think tMobile is the worst service provider and I have had more problems with my phone then you would believe. Dropped calls, dead batteries, sheesh. I cant wait to change to a new provider.

Gene, when tyou say it's regarded as a local call in NZ, what number do you get to call??  Is it your USA TMobile number?

Rod

Date: Tue, 6 Jan 2004 20:54:37 -0800 (Pacific Standard Time)
   From: "Gene Wilkins" <yankiwis@...>
Subject: Re: cell phones in NZ

Dave/Bob
I'm a T-mobile customer too, and love them.  I do not have a simlock on
my
phone.  As soon as I turned my phone on in NZ (or Europe) it
automatically
changed onto their band, and signed on to the local phone service --
Vodafone in both cases.  I did see a couple of internet cafes in ChCh
offering wi-fi link ups.  I actually thought my T-mobile charge of $US1
99/min. for calls (both NZ domestic and calls back to the US) was
comparable
to renting the NZ simcard.  And for family/friends in the US calling my
cellphone, while I was in NZ, it was considered a local call.

Gene

Ross wrote regarding unsecured access points "it still doesn't give you
the right to move in."

I'm not moving in, just visiting.

I have an office in Portland, Oregon which has more free Wi-Fi than any
city on the planet.  (check out nodedb.com to see [mostly] free APs all
over the world). I'm involved with Personaltelco.com that utilizes donated
bandwidth and installs antennas for free use by the public.  Guess my
perception of the rest of the world is similar.  In Personaltelco's
opinion, it should be.

Bob B.

> Just because a wireless network is 'open' doesn't give you the right to
> use it if it is not intended for public use. Yes I know its very
> careless of someone who hasn't taken even basic steps to secure their
> network. Its similar to if you see a house or car unlocked. Its
> careless on the part of the owner and they might not get much sympathy
> from the police or whoever but it still doesn't give you the right to
> move in.
>
> Cheers
> Ross
>
>
> --- bob brewer <bobb@...> wrote:
>> On another semi related topic - I had trouble finding any free wi-fi
>> in
>> NZ.  I just purchased a sniffer so finding open bandwidth should be
>> easier next trip.
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This is about the funniest topic we've had for weeks!

But without cutting and pasting all the actual bits from the emails here's
my two pennies worth.

The salesman who said your phone would work in NZ was almost certainly
right, but his angle was probably that you could just connect to an
affiliated provider of his company and that people would have to dial your
US number to get you.  It would be expensive but of course it can be done.
But the original topic question was about using a local SIM instead, and you
can do this with Vodafone NZ, but not if your phone is locked.

And on that question, the same thing happens in the UK,  Alll the providers
lock their phones, and none of them will unlock them.  But, there are plenty
of other companies who WILL unlock other providers phones, usually for some
nominal fee like 10 or 15 pounds. So don't all complain that Vodafone /
T-Mobile or whoever won't unlock your phone - it'd be silly business for
them to do so.  Just go and find someone else who will.  And if it's any
help I got mine done in the UK over the phone.  Rang them up, gave them my
credit card number for the 10 pounds, told them the IMEI number or whatever
the phone registration code thing is called, they tapped it into some
computer, 1 minute later I had the 'unlock' code.  The next time I tried
another providers' SIM the screen displayed 'please enter your unlock code'.
   Simple.  Try searching the net for a place near you that will do this.

As to Wi-Fi in NZ, it's uncommon because internet and phone usage is e x p e
n s i v e!  I am astounded that NZer's are supposed to be amongst the
highest users of the internet worldwide when it costs so much to get a poor
service and barely any NZ companies have a website of any note.  Anyway,
that's a different topic.  The point is that if you want any Wi Fi in NZ
you're going to have to look hard.  If you want it for free you've got even
less chance.  If you want to sniff for it and you think this is "just
visiting" because your "perception is the world should be like the US", have
a great time here in NZ perpetuating the tales that Yanks are all ignorant
and self-important, because that's exactly what that attitude reflects.

Dave

P.S.  Happy New Year everyone! :-)


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>Reply-To: Kiwis-in-America@yahoogroups.com
>To: <Kiwis-in-America@yahoogroups.com>
>Subject: Re: [Kiwis-In-America] cellphones in NZ
>Date: Thu, 8 Jan 2004 06:23:46 -0800 (PST)
>
>Ross wrote regarding unsecured access points "it still doesn't give you
>the right to move in."
>
>I'm not moving in, just visiting.
>
>I have an office in Portland, Oregon which has more free Wi-Fi than any
>city on the planet.  (check out nodedb.com to see [mostly] free APs all
>over the world). I'm involved with Personaltelco.com that utilizes donated
>bandwidth and installs antennas for free use by the public.  Guess my
>perception of the rest of the world is similar.  In Personaltelco's
>opinion, it should be.
>
>Bob B.
>
> > Just because a wireless network is 'open' doesn't give you the right to
> > use it if it is not intended for public use. Yes I know its very
> > careless of someone who hasn't taken even basic steps to secure their
> > network. Its similar to if you see a house or car unlocked. Its
> > careless on the part of the owner and they might not get much sympathy
> > from the police or whoever but it still doesn't give you the right to
> > move in.
> >
> > Cheers
> > Ross
> >
> >
> > --- bob brewer <bobb@...> wrote:
> >> On another semi related topic - I had trouble finding any free wi-fi
> >> in
> >> NZ.  I just purchased a sniffer so finding open bandwidth should be
> >> easier next trip.
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Just thought i would ask, being the curiosity clogs I am

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Sent: Friday, January 09, 2004 2:12 PM

Subject: RE: [Kiwis-In-America] Cell mobility

Sean Totally agree with your 2c worth!!  Love T-Mobile and my Smartphone!!!  You and I should be getting a commission for promoting T-Mobile.     -------Original Message-------   From: Kiwis-in-America@yahoogroups.com Date: Friday, January 09, 2004 10:58:16 AM To: Kiwis-in-America@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [Kiwis-In-America] Cell mobility   Actually I switched from Verizon (after 5 yrs with them) to T-mobile using one of the new Smartphones powered by Microsoft's new smartphone software and have been nothing but impressed with T-Mobile both on the support side (yes imagine that a cell phone company with online technicians and support that actually know what they are talking about). Coverage can be an issue for any company - look closely into it before purchasing from a provider. And DEAD BATTERIES??? Have you heard of this thing they call a charger??? :) All kidding aside dead batteries are the issue of the phone manufacturer NOT the network provider. Just my 02c worth

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Hello everyone,
I hope you all had a great Christmas. I just have a quick question.
My fiancee posted in her biography and that to start the process for
our K-1 visa about Dec 5th. now looking at the U.S.C.I.S processing
table for our area. they are only processing July 21st 2003 now. My
Fiancee is worried that it will be about 6 mths till we get the
paperwork starting to come thru. We have aimed at me being there
around late March early April. I know it is out of my hands to get it
any quicker and we are at the mercy of Immigration. When looking thru
all the infomation we were under the impression that it would take
120 days max. Im itching to book flights because they are so cheep
for April $1149 one way to L.A. and thats NZD!!!! Can anybody give me
any reassurance that it wont be 6 mths

Hey Shane,

Which of the INS offices is your fiancée dealing with? I think that may
make a difference as to how long it takes to process. My husband and I
live in Virginia and our K1 stuff was processed through the Vermont
office. We sent it in around May 25 and the approved petition was in the
mail waiting for us when we returned from our summer vacation on July
20. So I would estimate that part of the process will take you 2 months.


I cannot stress enough the importance of double and triple checking that
you have all the paperwork they need, and ensuring you have filled out
application forms correctly.

When your fiancée receives the approved petition you will receive stuff
in the mail from the Auckland consulate. Once you have all the paperwork
needed for the interview, you will be able to make an appointment to
have an interview at the Auckland consulate. I was given an interview
date two weeks after I phoned up. As long as you have all the paperwork
the Auckland consulate wants to see, and you have evidence of your
relationship you will be issued a K1 visa that very day. So I would say
that April is a very reasonable estimate of when you would be able to
go.

Just make sure you have all the paperwork you need. The paperwork is all
they go on. They don't really care about asking you many questions. They
want to SEE the evidence. Have more than you think you will need, and
you'll be fine. If  you need to get police clearances from other
countries you have lived in, do it now. I had to wait ages for a police
clearance from Great Britain and it slowed the whole thing down.

All the best!!! I hope you are not missing your fiancée too much! My now
husband and I were only ever apart for 2 1/2 months and that was bad
enough.
Melissa



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From: maita_man2000 [mailto:thorn_shane@...]
Sent: Saturday, January 10, 2004 6:29 PM
To: Kiwis-in-America@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Kiwis-In-America] Immigration form I-129F

Hello everyone,
I hope you all had a great Christmas. I just have a quick question.
My fiancee posted in her biography and that to start the process for
our K-1 visa about Dec 5th. now looking at the U.S.C.I.S processing
table for our area. they are only processing July 21st 2003 now. My
Fiancee is worried that it will be about 6 mths till we get the
paperwork starting to come thru. We have aimed at me being there
around late March early April. I know it is out of my hands to get it
any quicker and we are at the mercy of Immigration. When looking thru
all the infomation we were under the impression that it would take
120 days max. Im itching to book flights because they are so cheep
for April $1149 one way to L.A. and thats NZD!!!! Can anybody give me
any reassurance that it wont be 6 mths





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i know that the vermont office is the fastest as far as
processing...im the nebraska office...as of todays date their still
processing applications recieved on july 21st 2003...that would put
us at around 1st june....what crap that is that 1 office can do in 2
months that another office takes 6 months

Look on the bright side. One INS office solved it's backlog - by
shredding hundreds of applications, including original documents.

"...This week the manager was charged with illegally shredding as
many as 90,000 documents.

Among the destroyed papers, federal officials charged, were American
and foreign passports, applications for asylum, birth certificates
and other documents supporting applications for citizenship, visas
and work permits...."

http://www.bordc.org/I_N_S_%20Shredder%20Ended%20Work%20Backlog,%20U_S_%20Says.h\
tm

Neil

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From: Deb

i know that the vermont office is the fastest as far as
processing...im the nebraska office...as of todays date their still
processing applications recieved on july 21st 2003...that would put
us at around 1st june....what crap that is that 1 office can do in 2
months that another office takes 6 months