He is stuck stating that God is NOT beyond human understanding but that only HE understands God better than the next person.? So now he is back to the ALL or...
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paulmatthew
oedworm
Jun 29, 2009 1:54 am
I asked a question that wasn't rhetorical and it didn't get any play. I'll repost it at the end of this post. You are posting an enormous misrepresentation of...
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paulmatthew
oedworm
Jun 29, 2009 2:14 am
You are certainly no lesser being than I, my friend. They're not secrets brother. I'm shouting them from the rooftops and clues are everywhere. I have been...
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Cinearte@...
cineartee
Jun 29, 2009 2:31 am
I'll simply refute it by stating that unbelievers also grow and improve when they suffer and they don't have to attribute this to any fantastical creature in...
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Cinearte@...
cineartee
Jun 29, 2009 2:37 am
Actually, they are contradictory but you sweep the logical contradictions with the absurd notion that humans can't get a grasp of a conceptual being that is...
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Ed Tyler
leeedgartyler
Jun 29, 2009 3:43 am
Sorry, Paul, I'd assumed that the answer was clear but I didn't make it explicit. When I said that you had confused pragmatism with relativism, and that I...
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paulmatthew
oedworm
Jun 29, 2009 12:03 pm
If an unbeliever sees the wisdom of a deeper understanding of suffering, and then goes on to judge believers and God harshly because they affirm His...
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paulmatthew
oedworm
Jun 29, 2009 12:05 pm
Let's see the syllogisms. I'll take an honest look at those contradictions. Include chapter and verse please. pm ... From: Cinearte@... To:...
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paulmatthew
oedworm
Jun 29, 2009 12:42 pm
I understand and respect your judgment of the harsh laws in Leviticus. From your perspective I would make the same pronouncement against them. The matter of...
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Ed Tyler
leeedgartyler
Jun 29, 2009 1:25 pm
Paul, I need a clarification before I answer: Precisely what do mean by "Is each person the final arbiter of his own absolute moral judgment"? Do you mean...
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Cinearte@...
cineartee
Jun 29, 2009 8:16 pm
Your dog metaphor is bunk. We're back to square one where humans can't understand God. You are one wishy-washy guy. When you show me a dog that can...
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Cinearte@...
cineartee
Jun 29, 2009 8:22 pm
Sorry, we are both dogs so we can't say anything about the nature of God that is more or less authoritative than the other. I say the concept of God has so...
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Cinearte@...
cineartee
Jun 29, 2009 8:50 pm
Boy if you need me to quote the Bible at you then you have not been reading it very closely. But here are a few- When did Jesus "begin" to exist? How does a...
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paulmatthew
oedworm
Jun 30, 2009 12:56 am
I'm not saying you and I have all the same abilities. Faith is an ability. Lot's of Christians will describe ephiphanies about discovering the truth of God...
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paulmatthew
oedworm
Jun 30, 2009 1:18 am
The Trinity is eternal - exists outside time. His physical birth affects mankind at the point of redemption, but it doesn't diminish God. Incarnate Jesus...
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Cinearte@...
cineartee
Jun 30, 2009 1:39 am
So- on top of saying that we are all dogs who have to whimper at "God the Dogcatcher's" feet for a whimper of his canine graciousness, you are now asserting...
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Cinearte@...
cineartee
Jun 30, 2009 1:52 am
You just could not read through my questions. And now you feel confident at ad hominens in my direction because of your elevated "dog status." You have...
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paulmatthew
oedworm
Jun 30, 2009 2:37 am
I prefer scones. pm ... From: Cinearte@... To: Literature@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, June 29, 2009 9:39 PM Subject: Re: [Literature] God Talk snippet. ...
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paulmatthew
oedworm
Jun 30, 2009 2:42 am
There were no ad hominems. You seriously don't know how uninformed your criticisms are. pm pm ... From: Cinearte@... To: Literature@yahoogroups.com Sent:...
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Cinearte@...
cineartee
Jun 30, 2009 5:04 am
You can't answer the questions even to your own satisfaction, so you chose to ignore them or simply reiterate them. You are now stuck with a silly "clever...
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Doug Smith
cornboy_99
Jun 30, 2009 11:45 am
Hi Paul, "You seriously don't know how uninformed your criticisms are." They seem more like questions (which thus far you have left unanswered) than...
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paulmatthew
oedworm
Jun 30, 2009 12:10 pm
The answers I have made have been patient and literal. I think anyone reading this thread can see that you are agitating for a tit for tat flame war and I'm...
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paulmatthew
oedworm
Jun 30, 2009 12:31 pm
Nice to hear from you Doug. Actually, you are literally (no spite, no taunt) wrong. He asked questions, I posted DIRECT ANSWERS. I don't get why you would...
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Cinearte@...
cineartee
Jun 30, 2009 12:54 pm
Still barking up the wrong tree little puppy. I don't have to play your game with your rules. Simply put. And it is awfully presumptive to think that I have...
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paulmatthew
oedworm
Jun 30, 2009 1:07 pm
They're not my rules. They're THE rules. If we can't agree that you have to make your own arguments instead of insisting that I make them for you, I say...
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Cinearte@...
cineartee
Jun 30, 2009 1:24 pm
Paul needs it spelled out for him. I'll give him a few hints- 1st there was Herod killing all the babies yet Jesus was protected by his own "father-self"-...
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Cinearte@...
cineartee
Jun 30, 2009 1:26 pm
Little puppy jumping around without answering any questions. I will not quote scripture. I don't have to. lalalalala.... In a message dated 6/30/2009...
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paulmatthew
oedworm
Jun 30, 2009 1:32 pm
I see your point about the need for clarification. The question is very constricting. It may be that I've gone too far toward the false dichotomy problem....
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Doug Smith
cornboy_99
Jun 30, 2009 1:50 pm
Paul, "The Dunning-Kruger effect is an example of cognitive bias in which "...people reach erroneous conclusions and make unfortunate choices but their...
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Cinearte@...
cineartee
Jun 30, 2009 2:13 pm
I've read the Bible and I find the characters logically contradictory and inconsistent. Doubting Thomas for one. That apostle had to be an idiot of the...
