No problem Perry, I just thought that I would give a shot anyway.  Thanks for
your help and have a very merry Christmas.

Daryle



----- Original Message -----
From: Perry Smith
To: Loring_AFB@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, December 22, 2009 2:23 PM
Subject: Re: [Loring_AFB] Merry Christmas




Born and raised here, in South Philadelphia. I'm 48, and the area has changed
very much since I was younger. South Philly was mostly an Italian section of
Philly. South Philly is nestled between two rivers - the Delaware (other side
Jersey) and the Schuylkill (skoo-kill). The two river wards were mostly Irish
(that is were I am from), and the rest mostly Italian. People have been leaving
the area in the past several years. Some neighborhoods have become better with a
small influx of young professionals from outside of the city. Other areas have
huge populations of Southeast Asians and Central Americans - these areas are
often poor and run down.
Anyway to answer your question there were tons of Italian Delis throughout the
area at one time, but only a hand full remain now. Supermarkets and the influx
of new immigrants pushed the delis out. I looked up the name Capitano, in the
phone directory here (and I'm confident there were numerous Capitanos in the
area at one time), but only one exists now and it is a private residence and not
a deli. Sorry I couldn't help.
  Perry 42SPS 80-81


--- On Tue, 12/22/09, Daryle Allen <dwallen49@...> wrote:

From: Daryle Allen <dwallen49@...>
Subject: Re: [Loring_AFB] Merry Christmas
To: Loring_AFB@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday, December 22, 2009, 6:49 PM



Hi Perry

I used to have a friend that I called Cappy when I was stationed at Loring. He
was a Sicilian descent. His last name was really Capitano that is why we called
him Cappy. Anyway, his family used are owned their own butcher shop and Philly
but I don't remember what side of town that was on. I know that Philly is a big
place but I was just wondering if you are familiar with a butcher shop that had
the last name Capitano?

Daryle

----- Original Message -----
From: Perry Smith
To: Loring_AFB@yahoogro ups.com
Sent: Tuesday, December 22, 2009 1:14 PM
Subject: Re: [Loring_AFB] Merry Christmas

Ditto here from Philly!!!!! We just got pummeled with about 24 inches over the
weekend - so a White Christmas here. I haven't seen a White Christmas since
Loring.
Perry 42SPS 80-81

--- On Tue, 12/22/09, Daryle Allen <dwallen49@comcast. net> wrote:

From: Daryle Allen <dwallen49@comcast. net>
Subject: Re: [Loring_AFB] Merry Christmas
To: Loring_AFB@yahoogro ups.com
Date: Tuesday, December 22, 2009, 4:18 PM

Back atcha Don and to all the former Loring and still present Maineacs
(affectionately) who still reside in the area.

God bless,
Daryle

----- Original Message -----
From: don_nelson_42nd_ bw
To: Loring_AFB@yahoogro ups.com
Sent: Monday, December 21, 2009 11:20 PM
Subject: [Loring_AFB] Merry Christmas

Wishing all my former Loringites and friends on here, a very Merry Christmas..I
wish for you and yours the very best that this season can bring, namely good
health and family love..Don Nelson, Telephone Maintenance, 1961 to 1965........
....

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Born and raised here, in South Philadelphia. I'm 48, and the area has changed
very much since I was younger. South Philly was mostly an Italian section of
Philly. South Philly is nestled between two rivers - the Delaware (other side
Jersey) and the Schuylkill (skoo-kill). The two river wards were mostly Irish
(that is were I am from), and the rest mostly Italian. People have been
leaving the area in the past several years. Some neighborhoods have become
better with a small influx of young professionals from outside of the city.
Other areas have huge populations of Southeast Asians and Central Americans -
these areas are often poor and run down.
Anyway to answer your question there were tons of Italian Delis throughout the
area at one time, but only a hand full remain now. Supermarkets and the influx
of new immigrants pushed the delis out. I looked up the name Capitano, in the
phone directory here (and I'm confident there were numerous Capitanos in the
area at one time), but only one exists now and it is a private residence and not
a deli. Sorry I couldn't help.
 Perry 42SPS 80-81
 


--- On Tue, 12/22/09, Daryle Allen <dwallen49@...> wrote:


From: Daryle Allen <dwallen49@...>
Subject: Re: [Loring_AFB] Merry Christmas
To: Loring_AFB@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday, December 22, 2009, 6:49 PM


 



Hi Perry

I used to have a friend that I called Cappy when I was stationed at Loring. He
was a Sicilian descent. His last name was really Capitano that is why we called
him Cappy. Anyway, his family used are owned their own butcher shop and Philly
but I don't remember what side of town that was on. I know that Philly is a big
place but I was just wondering if you are familiar with a butcher shop that had
the last name Capitano?

Daryle

----- Original Message -----
From: Perry Smith
To: Loring_AFB@yahoogro ups.com
Sent: Tuesday, December 22, 2009 1:14 PM
Subject: Re: [Loring_AFB] Merry Christmas

Ditto here from Philly!!!!! We just got pummeled with about 24 inches over the
weekend - so a White Christmas here. I haven't seen a White Christmas since
Loring.
Perry 42SPS 80-81

--- On Tue, 12/22/09, Daryle Allen <dwallen49@comcast. net> wrote:

From: Daryle Allen <dwallen49@comcast. net>
Subject: Re: [Loring_AFB] Merry Christmas
To: Loring_AFB@yahoogro ups.com
Date: Tuesday, December 22, 2009, 4:18 PM

Back atcha Don and to all the former Loring and still present Maineacs
(affectionately) who still reside in the area.

God bless,
Daryle

----- Original Message -----
From: don_nelson_42nd_ bw
To: Loring_AFB@yahoogro ups.com
Sent: Monday, December 21, 2009 11:20 PM
Subject: [Loring_AFB] Merry Christmas

Wishing all my former Loringites and friends on here, a very Merry Christmas..I
wish for you and yours the very best that this season can bring, namely good
health and family love..Don Nelson, Telephone Maintenance, 1961 to 1965........
....

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Hi Perry

I used to have a friend that I called Cappy when I was stationed at Loring.  He
was a Sicilian descent.  His last name was really Capitano that is why we called
him Cappy.  Anyway, his family used are owned their own butcher shop and Philly
but I don't remember what side of town that was on.  I know that Philly is a big
place but I was just wondering if you are familiar with a butcher shop that had
the last name Capitano?

Daryle




----- Original Message -----
From: Perry Smith
To: Loring_AFB@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, December 22, 2009 1:14 PM
Subject: Re: [Loring_AFB] Merry Christmas



Ditto here from Philly!!!!! We just got pummeled with about 24 inches over the
weekend - so a White Christmas here. I haven't seen a White Christmas since
Loring.
Perry 42SPS 80-81

--- On Tue, 12/22/09, Daryle Allen <dwallen49@...> wrote:

From: Daryle Allen <dwallen49@...>
Subject: Re: [Loring_AFB] Merry Christmas
To: Loring_AFB@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday, December 22, 2009, 4:18 PM



Back atcha Don and to all the former Loring and still present Maineacs
(affectionately) who still reside in the area.

God bless,
Daryle

----- Original Message -----
From: don_nelson_42nd_ bw
To: Loring_AFB@yahoogro ups.com
Sent: Monday, December 21, 2009 11:20 PM
Subject: [Loring_AFB] Merry Christmas

Wishing all my former Loringites and friends on here, a very Merry Christmas..I
wish for you and yours the very best that this season can bring, namely good
health and family love..Don Nelson, Telephone Maintenance, 1961 to 1965........
....

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Ditto here from Philly!!!!! We just got pummeled with about 24 inches over the
weekend - so a White Christmas here. I haven't seen a White Christmas since
Loring.
Perry 42SPS 80-81

--- On Tue, 12/22/09, Daryle Allen <dwallen49@...> wrote:


From: Daryle Allen <dwallen49@...>
Subject: Re: [Loring_AFB] Merry Christmas
To: Loring_AFB@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday, December 22, 2009, 4:18 PM


 



Back atcha Don and to all the former Loring and still present Maineacs
(affectionately) who still reside in the area.

God bless,
Daryle

----- Original Message -----
From: don_nelson_42nd_ bw
To: Loring_AFB@yahoogro ups.com
Sent: Monday, December 21, 2009 11:20 PM
Subject: [Loring_AFB] Merry Christmas

Wishing all my former Loringites and friends on here, a very Merry Christmas..I
wish for you and yours the very best that this season can bring, namely good
health and family love..Don Nelson, Telephone Maintenance, 1961 to 1965........
....

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Back atcha Don and to all the former Loring and still present Maineacs
(affectionately) who still reside in the area.

God bless,
Daryle


----- Original Message -----
From: don_nelson_42nd_bw
To: Loring_AFB@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, December 21, 2009 11:20 PM
Subject: [Loring_AFB] Merry Christmas



Wishing all my former Loringites and friends on here, a very Merry Christmas..I
wish for you and yours the very best that this season can bring, namely good
health and family love..Don Nelson, Telephone Maintenance, 1961 to
1965............





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Wishing all my former Loringites and friends on here, a very Merry Christmas..I
wish for you and yours the very best that this season can bring, namely good
health and family love..Don Nelson, Telephone Maintenance, 1961 to
1965............

--- In Loring_AFB@yahoogroups.com, Steve Aiello <ramsteinramprat@...> wrote:
>
> NH Air Guard is out of Pease.  My understanding is it's mostly supply. Flying
gas stations.
>  
> Otis is a Coast Guard Air station.  Don't know if they have any ANG there.
> The base housing was used for some of the Katrina victims.
>
> Steve
> --- On Sun, 12/20/09, Gary Smith <grsmith556@...> wrote:
>
They also have a VA clinic there as well.  I go there for labs and then they are
sent to the Manchester, NH VA Hospital prior to my going there.  In the same
bldg the Guard has some offices.......never saw so many SMSGTS, young looking
women in those ranks too.  Funny, in the 60's I don't ever recall seeing an
enlisted woman with more than two stripes.  Good for them I say, good for the
Air Force.

russ webber
>
> From: Gary Smith <grsmith556@...>
> Subject: Re: [Loring_AFB] Where has the military gone?
> To: Loring_AFB@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Sunday, December 20, 2009, 11:09 PM
>
>
>  
>
>
>
> Lynda, I agree about the embassy's. This was and always should be a Marine
function. I've seen Blackwater and KBR and Dynacorp in action throughout SWA and
I'm appalled and angered at the role they play in the AOR. At Balad, SecDef came
in and he was surrounded, not by his own Army or Marine troops, but by
Blackwater goons. Being crew chiefs, we couldn't help ourselves and commented
loudly as he toured our area. Got to the point our CO came over and told us to
shut up. So we did, and just discreetly flipped off the goons whenever they
looked our way. It was a moral victory at least!
>
> Burlington in VT. and Barnes in MA. are still up and running Guard bases as is
DC, Atlantic City, and Syracuse (for now at least) for that matter. I feel
confident that we can repel any un-warranted Canadian invasion.
>
> Talk to you soon,
>
> Gary
>
>
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

Regarless there is no active duty base except for Hanscom.  Fort Devens is down
to just a few reserve buildings and my understanding those are going away and
the reserve unit moved to another location near Devens.  I got this info from
my son who's with the reserve unit there.  A developer wants that land where
they are at...



Lynda
----- Original Message -----
From: "Steve Aiello" <ramsteinramprat@...>
To: "Loring AFB" <Loring_AFB@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, December 21, 2009 8:00:07 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
Subject: Re: [Loring_AFB] Where has the military gone?

 




NH Air Guard is out of Pease.  My understanding is it's mostly supply. Flying
gas stations.
 
Otis is a Coast Guard Air station.  Don't know if they have any ANG there.
The base housing was used for some of the Katrina victims.

Steve
--- On Sun, 12/20/09, Gary Smith < grsmith556@... > wrote:

From: Gary Smith < grsmith556@... >
Subject: Re: [Loring_AFB] Where has the military gone?
To: Loring_AFB@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sunday, December 20, 2009, 11:09 PM

 

Lynda, I agree about the embassy's. This was and always should be a Marine
function. I've seen Blackwater and KBR and Dynacorp in action throughout SWA and
I'm appalled and angered at the role they play in the AOR. At Balad, SecDef came
in and he was surrounded, not by his own Army or Marine troops, but by
Blackwater goons. Being crew chiefs, we couldn't help ourselves and commented
loudly as he toured our area. Got to the point our CO came over and told us to
shut up. So we did, and just discreetly flipped off the goons whenever they
looked our way. It was a moral victory at least!

Burlington in VT. and Barnes in MA. are still up and running Guard bases as is
DC, Atlantic City, and Syracuse (for now at least) for that matter. I feel
confident that we can repel any un-warranted Canadian invasion.

Talk to you soon,

Gary

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NH Air Guard is out of Pease.  My understanding is it's mostly supply. Flying
gas stations.
 
Otis is a Coast Guard Air station.  Don't know if they have any ANG there.
The base housing was used for some of the Katrina victims.

Steve
--- On Sun, 12/20/09, Gary Smith <grsmith556@...> wrote:


From: Gary Smith <grsmith556@...>
Subject: Re: [Loring_AFB] Where has the military gone?
To: Loring_AFB@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sunday, December 20, 2009, 11:09 PM


 



Lynda, I agree about the embassy's. This was and always should be a Marine
function. I've seen Blackwater and KBR and Dynacorp in action throughout SWA and
I'm appalled and angered at the role they play in the AOR. At Balad, SecDef came
in and he was surrounded, not by his own Army or Marine troops, but by
Blackwater goons. Being crew chiefs, we couldn't help ourselves and commented
loudly as he toured our area. Got to the point our CO came over and told us to
shut up. So we did, and just discreetly flipped off the goons whenever they
looked our way. It was a moral victory at least!

Burlington in VT. and Barnes in MA. are still up and running Guard bases as is
DC, Atlantic City, and Syracuse (for now at least) for that matter. I feel
confident that we can repel any un-warranted Canadian invasion.

Talk to you soon,

Gary






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I believe that this all started back right after WWI.  If you think about how
the Socialist movement started and what they said about our country it is in
lock step (no pun intended).  The soviets said that they would take our country
without firing a shot and it is happening.  The Democratic party has been
hijacked, perhaps by a core of socialists, perhaps not.  But if you look at the
policies that they have been pushing (really think that the Republicans have a
hand in it as well), letting big industry move off shores (do not think that we
could fight a sustained war now if we had to with a major enemy) and setting up
more and more of a nanny state, socialism is exactly the way we are moving.  The
only problem is that just as the Russian empire fell when certain groups got
greedy and wanted all the wealth as well as the power, we seem to be starting
off with those two greeds (?) in the beginning.

Being stationed at Loring and then at Pease we thought that we would eventually
return to the NE but after watching the way the politics have gone we have
decided to stay in TN.  Right or wrong the thought process that we have found
here is like what we experienced in NE back in the 70's.  People actually care
about each other and will look out for each other.  Unfortunately one only finds
this in small locations.  Do not mean to say that there are not good people in
NE THERE ARE!!  But if one looks at where their politicians are taking them and
do nothing about it we get what we do or do not vote for.

Sorry for the rant, still have great affection for NE.

Tom in TN

Lynda, I agree about the embassy's. This was and always should be a Marine
function. I've seen Blackwater and KBR and Dynacorp in action throughout SWA and
I'm appalled and angered at the role they play in the AOR. At Balad, SecDef came
in and he was surrounded, not by his own Army or Marine troops, but by
Blackwater goons. Being crew chiefs, we couldn't help ourselves and commented
loudly as he toured our area. Got to the point our CO came over and told us to
shut up. So we did, and just discreetly flipped off the goons whenever they
looked our way. It was a moral victory at least!

Burlington in VT. and Barnes in MA. are still up and running Guard bases as is
DC, Atlantic City, and Syracuse (for now at least) for that matter. I feel
confident that we can repel any un-warranted Canadian invasion.

Talk to you soon,

Gary




________________________________
From: Lynda <nhgypsy@...>
To: Loring_AFB@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sun, December 20, 2009 5:17:41 PM
Subject: Re: [Loring_AFB] Where has the military gone?

 
The only active duty base in New England that I know of now is Hanscom in Mass.
They are all electronic division. The runways are leased to massport.

They just closed down Brunswick Naval Air Station in Maine. Pease is long
gone... just a few tankers for the guard unit there. Weymouth is long gone...
not sure of the status of Groton Naval.

So basically the whole north east is open to Canadian Attack.... :) But
seriously there is no protection for the north east and we are the closest to
Europe should something happen. They have cut the military back to barebones to
where they hire mercenaries to guard our embassy's. What's up with that? That
was always the Army and Marine duty. Now we rely on companies like Black water
which is nothing more than mercenaies and taking us for big bucks. I say regrow
the military and get rid of these idiots.

Ok off my soap box..

Lynda
----- Original Message -----
From: rwcwone
To: Loring_AFB@yahoogro ups.com
Sent: Sunday, December 20, 2009 5:06 PM
Subject: [Loring_AFB] Where has the military gone?

Back in the 60's Maine had TWO SAC bases and next door in Portsmouth, NH there
was Pease. Now Maine has also lost BNAS. New England has been stripped of active
bases......their location which was once a major factor in building these bases
is no longer strategic??

What say you? russ webber

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You can try to blame Obama but this has been in the making since Ronny Ray Gun's
time.  They keep cutting back and eventually we will be defenseless.


   ----- Original Message -----
   From: don grabski / aka/ daylightdon
   To: Loring_AFB@yahoogroups.com
   Sent: Sunday, December 20, 2009 5:29 PM
   Subject: Re: [Loring_AFB] Where has the military gone?



   If Mr Obama had his way Offitt, AFB would be closed also. It was used as
blackmail to get the vote he wanted for the healthcare bill. The military and
the security of this country be damned!!!
   That's where the military has gone. Look at Ft Hood Texas. Being PC caused the
lives of soldiers to be snuffed out even before they left American soil!

   Don Grabski

   ________________________________
   From: rwcwone <rwebber3@...>
   To: Loring_AFB@yahoogroups.com
   Sent: Sun, December 20, 2009 2:06:15 PM
   Subject: [Loring_AFB] Where has the military gone?


   Back in the 60's Maine had TWO SAC bases and next door in Portsmouth, NH there
was Pease. Now Maine has also lost BNAS. New England has been stripped of active
bases......their location which was once a major factor in building these bases
is no longer strategic??

   What say you? russ webber

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If Mr Obama had his way Offitt, AFB would be closed also. It was used as
blackmail to get the vote he wanted for the healthcare bill. The military and
the security of this country be damned!!!
That's where the military has gone. Look at Ft Hood Texas. Being PC caused the
lives of soldiers to be snuffed out even before they left American soil!
 
Don Grabski







________________________________
From: rwcwone <rwebber3@...>
To: Loring_AFB@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sun, December 20, 2009 2:06:15 PM
Subject: [Loring_AFB] Where has the military gone?

 
Back in the 60's Maine had TWO SAC bases and next door in Portsmouth, NH there
was Pease. Now Maine has also lost BNAS. New England has been stripped of active
bases......their location which was once a major factor in building these bases
is no longer strategic??

What say you? russ webber




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The only active duty base in New England that I know of now is Hanscom in Mass. 
They are all electronic division.  The runways are leased to massport.

They just closed down Brunswick Naval Air Station in Maine.   Pease is long
gone...  just a few tankers for the guard unit there.  Weymouth is long gone...
not sure of the status of Groton Naval.

So basically the whole north east is open to Canadian Attack....   :)    But
seriously there is no protection for the north east and we are the closest to
Europe should something happen.  They have cut the military back to barebones to
where they hire mercenaries to guard our embassy's.  What's up with that?  That
was always the Army and Marine duty.  Now we rely on companies like Black water
which is nothing more than mercenaies and taking us for big bucks.  I say regrow
the military and get rid of these idiots.

Ok off my soap box..

Lynda
   ----- Original Message -----
   From: rwcwone
   To: Loring_AFB@yahoogroups.com
   Sent: Sunday, December 20, 2009 5:06 PM
   Subject: [Loring_AFB] Where has the military gone?



   Back in the 60's Maine had TWO SAC bases and next door in Portsmouth, NH there
was Pease. Now Maine has also lost BNAS. New England has been stripped of active
bases......their location which was once a major factor in building these bases
is no longer strategic??

   What say you? russ webber





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Back in the 60's Maine had TWO SAC bases and next door in Portsmouth, NH there
was Pease. Now Maine has also lost BNAS.  New England has been stripped of
active bases......their location which was once a major factor in building these
bases is no longer strategic??

What say you?  russ webber

Back in like 82/83 the LE's raided our Dorms at night.  It was a sunday night
and they trashed the place.  We had a general coming in the next morning.  Our
Commander called the back line and asked for everyone who was getting off shift
to report to the dorm by 730am to try to clean up the dorm before he brought the
general.  It was never going to happen.  So we changed into shorts and tees
with mukluks, and it was 10 degrees out.  Started playing ultimate frisbee on
the front lawn, or should say front snow field.  General took one look said he
wasnt getting out of the car and declared us all crazy. 



Then at some point.. cant remember exactly when it was the early 80's an LE went
through an intersection by the Arch Hanger.  He wasnt going to a call and he
blew through the stop sign.  Broadsided an FMS tech.  Had to medivac the tech
out of Loring on a 135.  I think he was out like 9 months.  Came back to work,
was at work long and he was diagnosed with cancer and died shortly later. 
Everyone attributed his cancer to the extensive surgeries he had from the
accident.



Always like the SPs better.  Dealt with them with the alert cage all the
time.  We use to pull up to the red line, tanker truck to bomber truck in the
cage and see how long it took for the SP's to figure out us KC135 Crew chiefs
were now in the bomber area and the bomber chiefs were in the tanker area.  
The SP's were so use to seeing us it use to take them some time to figure out we
had climbed over the drivers seats and changed trucks.



Of course then there's the days of heating water on the tankers on alert.  Cant
say I miss that! :)



Lynda

81-84

42nd OMS 63-8043 Crew Chief
----- Original Message -----
From: "Perry Smith" <perrysmith196147@...>
To: "Loring AFB" <Loring_AFB@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Friday, December 11, 2009 6:39:45 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
Subject: Re: [Loring_AFB] 42 SPS

 




The drug bust? I think in late 1980. This is how I remember it. Someone was
busted for drugs (an SP), coke or meth, That person was threatened with a
lengthy jail term unless he gave up some names. A domino effect started after
that. I remember showing up for guardmount and someone daily being called out
and taken away. Got so bad, we lost an entire flight. A flight serviced the day
shifts With B, C,and D serviced the swings and mids. Lost so many men C flight
was dissolved.
Perry

--- On Fri, 12/11/09, WILLIAM J HICKS < williamjhicks@... > wrote:

From: WILLIAM J HICKS < williamjhicks@... >
Subject: Re: [Loring_AFB] 42 SPS
To: Loring_AFB@yahoogroups.com
Date: Friday, December 11, 2009, 9:31 PM

 

  Really can't say that I blamae ya........What year did all this take
place?...Bill

____________ _________ _________ __
From: Perry Smith <perrysmith196147@ yahoo.com>
To: Loring_AFB@yahoogro ups.com
Sent: Fri, December 11, 2009 3:04:06 PM
Subject: Re: [Loring_AFB] 42 SPS

 
I wouldn't want to be part of anything that included those two shitheads (excuse
my language).
Perry

--- On Fri, 12/11/09, WILLIAM J HICKS <williamjhicks@ bellsouth. net> wrote:

From: WILLIAM J HICKS <williamjhicks@ bellsouth. net>
Subject: Re: [Loring_AFB] 42 SPS
To: Loring_AFB@yahoogro ups.com
Date: Friday, December 11, 2009, 8:57 PM

 

  Perry, That Sucks!!!.... .......Bill

____________ _________ _________ __
From: Perry Smith <perrysmith196147@ yahoo.com>
To: Loring_AFB@yahoogro ups.com
Sent: Fri, December 11, 2009 2:55:20 PM
Subject: Re: [Loring_AFB] 42 SPS

 
I went to corrective custody for a couple of weeks because 2 LEs said that I
threatened them. Our C,O. believed them, He said he knew how I handled myself. I
never threatened them.  Our C.O. was new - how could he have known me. We went
through several commanders in a couple months because of a major drug bust in
our squadron. A lot of innocent guys went down with the drug bust. I was
awakened one morning with my commander and several LEs in my room one morning
(let themselves in while I was sleeping). I was told to get dressed and informed
of the charges against me. I got an article 15 from my C.O. for communicating
threats. 

--- On Fri, 12/11/09, WILLIAM J HICKS <williamjhicks@ bellsouth. net> wrote:

From: WILLIAM J HICKS <williamjhicks@ bellsouth. net>
Subject: Re: [Loring_AFB] 42 SPS
To: Loring_AFB@yahoogro ups.com
Date: Friday, December 11, 2009, 6:35 PM

 

 Perry, why did you hate the LE's?....Bill Hicks

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From: Perry Smith <perrysmith196147@ yahoo.com>
To: Loring_AFB@yahoogro ups.com
Sent: Fri, December 11, 2009 11:55:58 AM
Subject: Re: [Loring_AFB] 42 SPS

 
Not for me - I hated the LEs.
Perry
--- On Fri, 12/11/09, Ralph Reiff <RREIFF@WEBTV. NET> wrote:

From: Ralph Reiff <RREIFF@WEBTV. NET>
Subject: Re: [Loring_AFB] 42 SPS
To: Loring_AFB@yahoogro ups.com
Date: Friday, December 11, 2009, 4:48 AM

 

The Ramp Rats site is open to former Law Enforcement, Security of Loring AFB
only. Has many members from about all years that Loring was open. Even when it
was called Limestone AFB. Great bunch of people on the site.

Ralph

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The drug bust? I think in late 1980. This is how I remember it. Someone was
busted for drugs (an SP), coke or meth, That person was threatened with a
lengthy jail term unless he gave up some names. A domino effect started after
that. I remember showing up for guardmount and someone daily being called out
and taken away. Got so bad, we lost an entire flight. A flight serviced the day
shifts With B, C,and D serviced the swings and mids. Lost so many men C flight
was dissolved.
Perry

--- On Fri, 12/11/09, WILLIAM J HICKS <williamjhicks@...> wrote:


From: WILLIAM J HICKS <williamjhicks@...>
Subject: Re: [Loring_AFB] 42 SPS
To: Loring_AFB@yahoogroups.com
Date: Friday, December 11, 2009, 9:31 PM


 



  Really can't say that I blamae ya........What year did all this take
place?...Bill

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From: Perry Smith <perrysmith196147@ yahoo.com>
To: Loring_AFB@yahoogro ups.com
Sent: Fri, December 11, 2009 3:04:06 PM
Subject: Re: [Loring_AFB] 42 SPS

 
I wouldn't want to be part of anything that included those two shitheads (excuse
my language).
Perry

--- On Fri, 12/11/09, WILLIAM J HICKS <williamjhicks@ bellsouth. net> wrote:

From: WILLIAM J HICKS <williamjhicks@ bellsouth. net>
Subject: Re: [Loring_AFB] 42 SPS
To: Loring_AFB@yahoogro ups.com
Date: Friday, December 11, 2009, 8:57 PM

 

  Perry, That Sucks!!!.... .......Bill

____________ _________ _________ __
From: Perry Smith <perrysmith196147@ yahoo.com>
To: Loring_AFB@yahoogro ups.com
Sent: Fri, December 11, 2009 2:55:20 PM
Subject: Re: [Loring_AFB] 42 SPS

 
I went to corrective custody for a couple of weeks because 2 LEs said that I
threatened them. Our C,O. believed them, He said he knew how I handled myself. I
never threatened them.  Our C.O. was new - how could he have known me. We went
through several commanders in a couple months because of a major drug bust in
our squadron. A lot of innocent guys went down with the drug bust. I was
awakened one morning with my commander and several LEs in my room one morning
(let themselves in while I was sleeping). I was told to get dressed and informed
of the charges against me. I got an article 15 from my C.O. for communicating
threats. 

--- On Fri, 12/11/09, WILLIAM J HICKS <williamjhicks@ bellsouth. net> wrote:

From: WILLIAM J HICKS <williamjhicks@ bellsouth. net>
Subject: Re: [Loring_AFB] 42 SPS
To: Loring_AFB@yahoogro ups.com
Date: Friday, December 11, 2009, 6:35 PM

 

 Perry, why did you hate the LE's?....Bill Hicks

____________ _________ _________ __
From: Perry Smith <perrysmith196147@ yahoo.com>
To: Loring_AFB@yahoogro ups.com
Sent: Fri, December 11, 2009 11:55:58 AM
Subject: Re: [Loring_AFB] 42 SPS

 
Not for me - I hated the LEs.
Perry
--- On Fri, 12/11/09, Ralph Reiff <RREIFF@WEBTV. NET> wrote:

From: Ralph Reiff <RREIFF@WEBTV. NET>
Subject: Re: [Loring_AFB] 42 SPS
To: Loring_AFB@yahoogro ups.com
Date: Friday, December 11, 2009, 4:48 AM

 

The Ramp Rats site is open to former Law Enforcement, Security of Loring AFB
only. Has many members from about all years that Loring was open. Even when it
was called Limestone AFB. Great bunch of people on the site.

Ralph

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What year was that Perry?
On Dec 11, 2009, at 4:04 PM, Perry Smith wrote:

> I wouldn't want to be part of anything that included those two
> shitheads (excuse my language).
> Perry
>
> --- On Fri, 12/11/09, WILLIAM J HICKS <williamjhicks@...>
> wrote:
>
> From: WILLIAM J HICKS <williamjhicks@...>
> Subject: Re: [Loring_AFB] 42 SPS
> To: Loring_AFB@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Friday, December 11, 2009, 8:57 PM
>
>
>
>   Perry, That Sucks!!!.... .......Bill
>
> ____________ _________ _________ __
> From: Perry Smith <perrysmith196147@ yahoo.com>
> To: Loring_AFB@yahoogro ups.com
> Sent: Fri, December 11, 2009 2:55:20 PM
> Subject: Re: [Loring_AFB] 42 SPS
>
>
> I went to corrective custody for a couple of weeks because 2 LEs
> said that I threatened them. Our C,O. believed them, He said he knew
> how I handled myself. I never threatened them.  Our C.O. was new -
> how could he have known me. We went through several commanders in a
> couple months because of a major drug bust in our squadron. A lot of
> innocent guys went down with the drug bust. I was awakened one
> morning with my commander and several LEs in my room one morning
> (let themselves in while I was sleeping). I was told to get dressed
> and informed of the charges against me. I got an article 15 from my
> C.O. for communicating threats.
>
> --- On Fri, 12/11/09, WILLIAM J HICKS <williamjhicks@ bellsouth.
> net> wrote:
>
> From: WILLIAM J HICKS <williamjhicks@ bellsouth. net>
> Subject: Re: [Loring_AFB] 42 SPS
> To: Loring_AFB@yahoogro ups.com
> Date: Friday, December 11, 2009, 6:35 PM
>
>
>
>  Perry, why did you hate the LE's?....Bill Hicks
>
> ____________ _________ _________ __
> From: Perry Smith <perrysmith196147@ yahoo.com>
> To: Loring_AFB@yahoogro ups.com
> Sent: Fri, December 11, 2009 11:55:58 AM
> Subject: Re: [Loring_AFB] 42 SPS
>
>
> Not for me - I hated the LEs.
> Perry
> --- On Fri, 12/11/09, Ralph Reiff <RREIFF@WEBTV. NET> wrote:
>
> From: Ralph Reiff <RREIFF@WEBTV. NET>
> Subject: Re: [Loring_AFB] 42 SPS
> To: Loring_AFB@yahoogro ups.com
> Date: Friday, December 11, 2009, 4:48 AM
>
>
>
> The Ramp Rats site is open to former Law Enforcement, Security of
> Loring AFB only. Has many members from about all years that Loring
> was open. Even when it was called Limestone AFB. Great bunch of
> people on the site.
>
> Ralph
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  Really can't say that I blamae ya........What year did all this take
place?...Bill




________________________________
From: Perry Smith <perrysmith196147@...>
To: Loring_AFB@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Fri, December 11, 2009 3:04:06 PM
Subject: Re: [Loring_AFB] 42 SPS

 
I wouldn't want to be part of anything that included those two shitheads (excuse
my language).
Perry

--- On Fri, 12/11/09, WILLIAM J HICKS <williamjhicks@ bellsouth. net> wrote:

From: WILLIAM J HICKS <williamjhicks@ bellsouth. net>
Subject: Re: [Loring_AFB] 42 SPS
To: Loring_AFB@yahoogro ups.com
Date: Friday, December 11, 2009, 8:57 PM

 

  Perry, That Sucks!!!.... .......Bill

____________ _________ _________ __
From: Perry Smith <perrysmith196147@ yahoo.com>
To: Loring_AFB@yahoogro ups.com
Sent: Fri, December 11, 2009 2:55:20 PM
Subject: Re: [Loring_AFB] 42 SPS

 
I went to corrective custody for a couple of weeks because 2 LEs said that I
threatened them. Our C,O. believed them, He said he knew how I handled myself. I
never threatened them.  Our C.O. was new - how could he have known me. We went
through several commanders in a couple months because of a major drug bust in
our squadron. A lot of innocent guys went down with the drug bust. I was
awakened one morning with my commander and several LEs in my room one morning
(let themselves in while I was sleeping). I was told to get dressed and informed
of the charges against me. I got an article 15 from my C.O. for communicating
threats. 

--- On Fri, 12/11/09, WILLIAM J HICKS <williamjhicks@ bellsouth. net> wrote:

From: WILLIAM J HICKS <williamjhicks@ bellsouth. net>
Subject: Re: [Loring_AFB] 42 SPS
To: Loring_AFB@yahoogro ups.com
Date: Friday, December 11, 2009, 6:35 PM

 

 Perry, why did you hate the LE's?....Bill Hicks

____________ _________ _________ __
From: Perry Smith <perrysmith196147@ yahoo.com>
To: Loring_AFB@yahoogro ups.com
Sent: Fri, December 11, 2009 11:55:58 AM
Subject: Re: [Loring_AFB] 42 SPS

 
Not for me - I hated the LEs.
Perry
--- On Fri, 12/11/09, Ralph Reiff <RREIFF@WEBTV. NET> wrote:

From: Ralph Reiff <RREIFF@WEBTV. NET>
Subject: Re: [Loring_AFB] 42 SPS
To: Loring_AFB@yahoogro ups.com
Date: Friday, December 11, 2009, 4:48 AM

 

The Ramp Rats site is open to former Law Enforcement, Security of Loring AFB
only. Has many members from about all years that Loring was open. Even when it
was called Limestone AFB. Great bunch of people on the site.

Ralph

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I wouldn't want to be part of anything that included those two shitheads (excuse
my language).
Perry

--- On Fri, 12/11/09, WILLIAM J HICKS <williamjhicks@...> wrote:


From: WILLIAM J HICKS <williamjhicks@...>
Subject: Re: [Loring_AFB] 42 SPS
To: Loring_AFB@yahoogroups.com
Date: Friday, December 11, 2009, 8:57 PM


 



  Perry, That Sucks!!!.... .......Bill

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From: Perry Smith <perrysmith196147@ yahoo.com>
To: Loring_AFB@yahoogro ups.com
Sent: Fri, December 11, 2009 2:55:20 PM
Subject: Re: [Loring_AFB] 42 SPS

 
I went to corrective custody for a couple of weeks because 2 LEs said that I
threatened them. Our C,O. believed them, He said he knew how I handled myself. I
never threatened them.  Our C.O. was new - how could he have known me. We went
through several commanders in a couple months because of a major drug bust in
our squadron. A lot of innocent guys went down with the drug bust. I was
awakened one morning with my commander and several LEs in my room one morning
(let themselves in while I was sleeping). I was told to get dressed and informed
of the charges against me. I got an article 15 from my C.O. for communicating
threats. 

--- On Fri, 12/11/09, WILLIAM J HICKS <williamjhicks@ bellsouth. net> wrote:

From: WILLIAM J HICKS <williamjhicks@ bellsouth. net>
Subject: Re: [Loring_AFB] 42 SPS
To: Loring_AFB@yahoogro ups.com
Date: Friday, December 11, 2009, 6:35 PM

 

 Perry, why did you hate the LE's?....Bill Hicks

____________ _________ _________ __
From: Perry Smith <perrysmith196147@ yahoo.com>
To: Loring_AFB@yahoogro ups.com
Sent: Fri, December 11, 2009 11:55:58 AM
Subject: Re: [Loring_AFB] 42 SPS

 
Not for me - I hated the LEs.
Perry
--- On Fri, 12/11/09, Ralph Reiff <RREIFF@WEBTV. NET> wrote:

From: Ralph Reiff <RREIFF@WEBTV. NET>
Subject: Re: [Loring_AFB] 42 SPS
To: Loring_AFB@yahoogro ups.com
Date: Friday, December 11, 2009, 4:48 AM

 

The Ramp Rats site is open to former Law Enforcement, Security of Loring AFB
only. Has many members from about all years that Loring was open. Even when it
was called Limestone AFB. Great bunch of people on the site.

Ralph

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  Perry, That Sucks!!!...........Bill




________________________________
From: Perry Smith <perrysmith196147@...>
To: Loring_AFB@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Fri, December 11, 2009 2:55:20 PM
Subject: Re: [Loring_AFB] 42 SPS

 
I went to corrective custody for a couple of weeks because 2 LEs said that I
threatened them. Our C,O. believed them, He said he knew how I handled myself. I
never threatened them.  Our C.O. was new - how could he have known me. We went
through several commanders in a couple months because of a major drug bust in
our squadron. A lot of innocent guys went down with the drug bust. I was
awakened one morning with my commander and several LEs in my room one morning
(let themselves in while I was sleeping). I was told to get dressed and informed
of the charges against me. I got an article 15 from my C.O. for communicating
threats. 

--- On Fri, 12/11/09, WILLIAM J HICKS <williamjhicks@ bellsouth. net> wrote:

From: WILLIAM J HICKS <williamjhicks@ bellsouth. net>
Subject: Re: [Loring_AFB] 42 SPS
To: Loring_AFB@yahoogro ups.com
Date: Friday, December 11, 2009, 6:35 PM

 

 Perry, why did you hate the LE's?....Bill Hicks

____________ _________ _________ __
From: Perry Smith <perrysmith196147@ yahoo.com>
To: Loring_AFB@yahoogro ups.com
Sent: Fri, December 11, 2009 11:55:58 AM
Subject: Re: [Loring_AFB] 42 SPS

 
Not for me - I hated the LEs.
Perry
--- On Fri, 12/11/09, Ralph Reiff <RREIFF@WEBTV. NET> wrote:

From: Ralph Reiff <RREIFF@WEBTV. NET>
Subject: Re: [Loring_AFB] 42 SPS
To: Loring_AFB@yahoogro ups.com
Date: Friday, December 11, 2009, 4:48 AM

 

The Ramp Rats site is open to former Law Enforcement, Security of Loring AFB
only. Has many members from about all years that Loring was open. Even when it
was called Limestone AFB. Great bunch of people on the site.

Ralph

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I went to corrective custody for a couple of weeks because 2 LEs said that I
threatened them. Our C,O. believed them, He said he knew how I handled myself. I
never threatened them. Our C.O. was new - how could he have known me. We went
through several commanders in a couple months because of a major drug bust in
our squadron. A lot of innocent guys went down with the drug bust. I was
awakened one morning with my commander and several LEs in my room one morning
(let themselves in while I was sleeping). I was told to get dressed and informed
of the charges against me. I got an article 15 from my C.O. for communicating
threats. 

--- On Fri, 12/11/09, WILLIAM J HICKS <williamjhicks@...> wrote:


From: WILLIAM J HICKS <williamjhicks@...>
Subject: Re: [Loring_AFB] 42 SPS
To: Loring_AFB@yahoogroups.com
Date: Friday, December 11, 2009, 6:35 PM


 



 Perry, why did you hate the LE's?....Bill Hicks

____________ _________ _________ __
From: Perry Smith <perrysmith196147@ yahoo.com>
To: Loring_AFB@yahoogro ups.com
Sent: Fri, December 11, 2009 11:55:58 AM
Subject: Re: [Loring_AFB] 42 SPS

 
Not for me - I hated the LEs.
Perry
--- On Fri, 12/11/09, Ralph Reiff <RREIFF@WEBTV. NET> wrote:

From: Ralph Reiff <RREIFF@WEBTV. NET>
Subject: Re: [Loring_AFB] 42 SPS
To: Loring_AFB@yahoogro ups.com
Date: Friday, December 11, 2009, 4:48 AM

 

The Ramp Rats site is open to former Law Enforcement, Security of Loring AFB
only. Has many members from about all years that Loring was open. Even when it
was called Limestone AFB. Great bunch of people on the site.

Ralph

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I was head cashier at the main bx and the ap's took me to the bank every night
to make the nightly deposit. They were great guys...............Judy Bird
('63-'65)

--- On Fri, 12/11/09, WILLIAM J HICKS <williamjhicks@...> wrote:


From: WILLIAM J HICKS <williamjhicks@...>
Subject: Re: [Loring_AFB] 42 SPS
To: Loring_AFB@yahoogroups.com
Date: Friday, December 11, 2009, 1:35 PM


 



 Perry, why did you hate the LE's?....Bill Hicks

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From: Perry Smith <perrysmith196147@ yahoo.com>
To: Loring_AFB@yahoogro ups.com
Sent: Fri, December 11, 2009 11:55:58 AM
Subject: Re: [Loring_AFB] 42 SPS

 
Not for me - I hated the LEs.
Perry
--- On Fri, 12/11/09, Ralph Reiff <RREIFF@WEBTV. NET> wrote:

From: Ralph Reiff <RREIFF@WEBTV. NET>
Subject: Re: [Loring_AFB] 42 SPS
To: Loring_AFB@yahoogro ups.com
Date: Friday, December 11, 2009, 4:48 AM

 

The Ramp Rats site is open to former Law Enforcement, Security of Loring AFB
only. Has many members from about all years that Loring was open. Even when it
was called Limestone AFB. Great bunch of people on the site.

Ralph

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From: Perry Smith <perrysmith196147@...>
To: Loring_AFB@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Fri, December 11, 2009 11:55:58 AM
Subject: Re: [Loring_AFB] 42 SPS

 
Not for me - I hated the LEs.
Perry
--- On Fri, 12/11/09, Ralph Reiff <RREIFF@WEBTV. NET> wrote:

From: Ralph Reiff <RREIFF@WEBTV. NET>
Subject: Re: [Loring_AFB] 42 SPS
To: Loring_AFB@yahoogro ups.com
Date: Friday, December 11, 2009, 4:48 AM

 

The Ramp Rats site is open to former Law Enforcement, Security of Loring AFB
only. Has many members from about all years that Loring was open. Even when it
was called Limestone AFB. Great bunch of people on the site.

Ralph

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Not for me - I hated the LEs.
Perry
--- On Fri, 12/11/09, Ralph Reiff <RREIFF@...> wrote:


From: Ralph Reiff <RREIFF@...>
Subject: Re: [Loring_AFB] 42 SPS
To: Loring_AFB@yahoogroups.com
Date: Friday, December 11, 2009, 4:48 AM


 



The Ramp Rats site is open to former Law Enforcement, Security of Loring AFB
only. Has many members from about all years that Loring was open. Even when it
was called Limestone AFB. Great bunch of people on the site.

Ralph

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I was on AMS launch truck that night- spoke to the Nav just before takeoff-
think it was A/C 215.  Ed Crosby '69-'72


--- In Loring_AFB@yahoogroups.com, Mark & Ina Clanton <mark_ina@...> wrote:
>
> This is Mark Clanton.  I was at Loring from Dec 67 to Feb 69.  Married a
local Caribou girl, Ina Cox.  I was there when the plane went down during the
ORI...my commander was the mortuary officer so we (I was the training NCO for
the 42 Services Sq) had lots to do in those days that followed the crash.
> Many of you probably knew of my father-in-law, Jimmy Cox.  He grew his own
beard each year to play Santa...my mother-in-law, Lorraine Cox, was Mrs. Santa.
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: WILLIAM J HICKS <williamjhicks@...>
> To: Loring_AFB@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Thu, December 10, 2009 11:48:34 AM
> Subject: Re: [Loring_AFB] 42 SPS
>
>  
>   Ralph, I'm not a member of the Ramp Rats yet. I hope to be soon thouigh. I
love that about the coke can! I can't remember who the Wing CO was when I was
there but rumor has it that he was so dumb he caused tha crash of a 52 off the
end of the runway during an ORI. I remember hearing that they were having engine
problems and he told them to get the aircraft airborn regardless. I think that
was in early 69 just before I got there....... ......Bill
>
> ____________ _________ _________ __
> From: Ralph Reiff <RREIFF@WEBTV. NET>
> To: Loring_AFB@yahoogro ups.com
> Sent: Thu, December 10, 2009 8:49:02 AM
> Subject: Re: [Loring_AFB] 42 SPS
>
>  
> Bill
>
> Are you a member of the Loring Ramp Rats website?
> During my time in the cops at Loring someone nailed a soda can to the road in
front of the wing HQ's. It was known that the Base Commander would pickup stuff
on the road while having his Staffcar Door open and still moving down the road.
Some say he fell out of the vehicle and the car rolled down the hill into a snow
bank.
> The Wing Commander had the windows blown out in his Staff car being too Close
to a B-52 will it was running up its engines!
>
> Ralph Reiff 42ndAir Police 64-65
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Site Description:
The Loring Ramprats Website is dedicated to all those
who served as Security/Air Police at Loring/Limestone AFB, Maine and Caribou Air
Force Station.

We have pictures of old Loring and even some of what
Loring looks like today.   We have member contact
information and a place to post your memories of
Loring.   The site has been up since July of 2001 and we
have in excess of 700 members, with more signing in
every day.

Our intent is to foster communication between former
Security Policemen who served at Loring AFB.
Membership is extended by invitation only to former
Security Policemen who served at Loring and their
immediate family.   To request membership, you must
provide;   an assurance that you served at Loring AFB as
an AP, SP or one of today's Security Forces, your full
name, address and home phone number, an active e-
mail address, information on your years of service at
Loring and some elaboration of your tour of duty at
Loring.

Additional information may be requested by clicking on the 'Contact the
Administrator' link at: www.loringramprats.com

The Ramp Rats site is open to former Law Enforcement,Security of Loring AFB
only. Has many members from about all years that Loring was open. Even when it
was called Limestone AFB. Great bunch of people on the site.

Ralph




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John

Your right one is JR, Gordy,Lawrence,Danny,Stanley.
Jr and Gordy still live in Limestone.
You still working for the Post Office?
We were up last Mar and Apr and might be the last ones to stay at the Loring Inn
before it closed. We left not long after the big fire in Downtown Limestone.
42nd AP/SP  64-65

Ralph Reiff




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Hi Mark, say Hi to Ina for me and tell her I enjoy seeing her on
Facebook.........Ina's parents, in my eyes, were the best Mr and Mrs Santa Claus
ever......I graduated with Alan and fondly remember your in-laws!


In a message dated 12/10/2009 7:36:35 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
mark_ina@... writes:




This is Mark Clanton.  I was at Loring from Dec 67 to Feb 69.   Married a
local Caribou girl, Ina Cox.  I was there when the plane went  down during
the ORI...my commander was the mortuary officer so we (I was the  training NCO
for the 42 Services Sq) had lots to do in those days that  followed the
crash.
Many of you probably knew of my father-in-law, Jimmy  Cox.  He grew his own
beard each year to play Santa...my mother-in-law,  Lorraine Cox, was Mrs.
Santa.

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From: WILLIAM  J HICKS <_williamjhicks@williamjhiwil_
(mailto:williamjhicks@...) >
To:  _Loring_AFB@yahoogroLoring__ (mailto:Loring_AFB@yahoogroups.com)
Sent:  Thu, December 10, 2009 11:48:34 AM
Subject: Re: [Loring_AFB] 42  SPS


Ralph, I'm not a member of the Ramp Rats yet. I  hope to be soon thouigh. I
love that about the coke can! I can't remember who  the Wing CO was when I
was there but rumor has it that he was so dumb he  caused tha crash of a 52
off the end of the runway during an ORI. I remember  hearing that they were
having engine problems and he told them to get the  aircraft airborn
regardless. I think that was in early 69 just before I got  there.......
......Bill

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From:  Ralph Reiff <RREIFF@WEBTV. NET>
To: Loring_AFB@yahoogro  ups.com
Sent: Thu, December 10, 2009 8:49:02 AM
Subject: Re:  [Loring_AFB] 42 SPS


Bill

Are you a member of the  Loring Ramp Rats website?
During my time in the cops at Loring someone  nailed a soda can to the road
in front of the wing HQ's. It was known that the  Base Commander would
pickup stuff on the road while having his Staffcar Door  open and still moving
down the road. Some say he fell out of the vehicle and  the car rolled down
the hill into a snow bank.
The Wing Commander had the  windows blown out in his Staff car being too
Close to a B-52 will it was  running up its engines!

Ralph Reiff 42ndAir Police  64-65

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