http://www.nar.org/SandT/NARenglist.shtml The end is near for MicroMaxx I-1 motors. No end in sight for MicroMaxx II-1 motors. -Fred Shecter NAR 20117...
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tim callender
graylensmanl2
Aug 1, 2007 3:36 pm
All those motors that Quest made, and Jim Flis has on hand - MMX I or II? Anybody know? -- In MicroMaxRockets@yahoogroups.com, "Fred Shecter"...
Tim, As Fred showed with the link, FlisKits has the MMX II-1 motors and they'll be around for a while :) jim On Wed, 01 Aug 2007 15:32:30 -0000, tim callender...
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Ron Zeppin
azron_38
Aug 2, 2007 1:27 am
I've been under the distinct impression that all of the motors Jim has been selling are MMX-II's.... R...
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Fred Shecter
fredeshecter
Aug 2, 2007 12:23 pm
No, they are not motors with a roman 2-second delay time (the number after the dash in ALL motors is the delay time). They are MicroMaxx II-1 motors also known...
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Donald Laskey
kc8yud
Aug 2, 2007 3:54 pm
How do you cluster two micro maxx motors. I tried doing it the other day and I was only able to get one to light. Donald A. Laskey...
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Fred Shecter
fredeshecter
Aug 2, 2007 4:12 pm
1) You must use a powerful launch control system that can deliver a huge amount of current x voltage to the igniters. I suggest a 12 volt system using a car...
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Clive Davis
cliveroonie
Aug 2, 2007 4:52 pm
Donald: You need two things: 1) a reliable ignition system (I use a 12volt car charger system hooked up to my launcher) 2) reliable igniters. I use the Quest...
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John McCoy Sr.
mrcluster
Aug 2, 2007 5:59 pm
Don: The surest way is to use pyrogen tipped igniters, either find a couple Estes Solar igniters that will fit into the MMX-II motor nozzle or use Quest Q-2's....
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John McCoy Sr.
mrcluster
Aug 2, 2007 6:11 pm
Better describes as Cat. #5663 motors. that how to tell for sure which Micro Maxx Motor your buying #5662 are the older brown plastic casing MMX-1, .20nS...
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rocket877@...
artapplewhite
Aug 3, 2007 3:30 am
Donald, All the methods mentioned so far are good but there is another method that is sometimes used to start big clusters called Flashpan Ignition. The...
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rocket877@...
artapplewhite
Aug 3, 2007 4:12 am
Fred, I might take comfort in you "No end in sight" comment but from what I have witnessed from the current NAR leadership, it is neither farSIGHTed or...
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Swampworks
cajunman06
Aug 3, 2007 1:25 pm
You can make/modify your own igniters to use. The type of pyrogen needed for ignition of BP motors is not the same as that needed for the HPR stuff. As...
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Fred Shecter
fredeshecter
Aug 3, 2007 1:38 pm
You cannot use black powder in this method without an LEUP from the BATFE. Please do not encourage people to violate federal explosives laws and regulations...
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Bill Spadafora
billspad01906
Aug 3, 2007 8:21 pm
... Yes, it has the effect of annoying everyone who has to listen to it. The old motor program is in place to confirm what we all know, old motors don't fail...
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Fred Shecter
fredeshecter
Aug 3, 2007 8:34 pm
I know 2 people with a load of old motors and I'll check into the possibility of them helping. but first I have to go look up the Old Motor Program info for...
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Bill Spadafora
billspad01906
Aug 3, 2007 11:22 pm
... Here's a link: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NAR_Sections/message/8557 -- Bill Spadafora http://home.att.net/~billspad or http://www.billsplumbing.com or ...
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John McCoy Sr.
mrcluster
Aug 4, 2007 5:17 am
Bill: Teds can't be giving you the total story then Narhams as flown over 150 old motors in 3 scheduled launches. I'm not sure how may other "clubs" have...
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Mark Kulka
mkgroupprofile
Aug 4, 2007 11:00 am
... Just as an aside, I think that you may have cornered the market on those motors, John (the so-called MicroMaxx I-1, i.e., the brown ones). I haven't heard...
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Bill Spadafora
billspad01906
Aug 4, 2007 1:20 pm
... I got a few packages stashed away. At my current rate of flying I expect to have them for a while. -- Bill Spadafora http://home.att.net/~billspad or ...
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Bill Spadafora
billspad01906
Aug 4, 2007 1:20 pm
... He was probably exaggerating but I know he hasn't gotten as many as he hoped. I believe the OOP program is one of the topics for the Board meeting this...
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John McCoy Sr.
mrcluster
Aug 4, 2007 5:06 pm
Quest still has quite a few according to Bill the last time I ask for them they had just "re-discovered" more of the old motors in one of the storage sheds....
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Mark Kulka
mkgroupprofile
Aug 5, 2007 4:25 pm
... Thanks, John - that's good news. I'll be getting ready to place an order soon...8^) I have been interested in getting some of these motors ever since you ...
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Mark Kulka
mkgroupprofile
Aug 5, 2007 4:46 pm
... Not only do the older MMX I's have a longer delay (1.07 secs. vs. 0.89 secs. for the MMX II's), but they also have about double the burn time (1.23 secs....
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rocket877@...
artapplewhite
Aug 5, 2007 5:01 pm
This message is rated "PG-13". I still have a couple of dozen MM-I motors in my range box. As John has said, MM-1's are better than MM-II's for certain types...
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bobkaplow
Aug 5, 2007 5:08 pm
... I guess this sort of blindsighted me. My concern as an RSO is that the average person not familiar with these motors will not know the difference between...
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John McCoy Sr.
mrcluster
Aug 5, 2007 5:17 pm
Bob: My last purchase DIRECT for quest was 02-11-2006. I purchased a CASE 12-8packs of #5662 motors. What difference does it make when they were last sold? ...
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rocket877@...
artapplewhite
Aug 5, 2007 6:15 pm
Fred, That may be your interpretation of the laws but Flash Pan ignition has been a common practice for cluster ignition since before electrical igniter were ...
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John McCoy Sr.
mrcluster
Aug 5, 2007 9:56 pm
Art: Not to beat a dead horse, or be accused of piling on, but its comments like those you just spouted the keep many from voting you on the NAR board. We...
