The sun at high elevation will make even dark-painted decks look brighter.



On Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 10:34 PM, haffdaddy <haffdaddy@...> wrote:
> Help needed
>
> I'm working on a Dragon model of the U.S.S. Cole. The color guild is not much
help. With pictures of the real ship and some help I have it mostly painted. The
problem now is what color is the deck? Finished models on the web seem the have
the deck painted a darker gray with a hint of blue. In photos and a GE piece the
deck seems a medium gray with oil smeared. I have also heard that the scale of
the model can also add to the color choice.
>
> Years ago I use to paint with surplus battle ship gray and it was a semi
gloss. I have even tried contacting the Navy for help on how to paint this ship
and well I'm still waiting
>
> Thanks for you help
>
> Greg Haff
>
>
>

Help needed

I'm working on a Dragon model of the U.S.S. Cole. The color guild is not much
help. With pictures of the real ship and some help I have it mostly painted. The
problem now is what color is the deck? Finished models on the web seem the have
the deck painted a darker gray with a hint of blue. In photos and a GE piece the
deck seems a medium gray with oil smeared. I have also heard that the scale of
the model can also add to the color choice.

Years ago I use to paint with surplus battle ship gray and it was a semi gloss.
I have even tried contacting the Navy for help on how to paint this ship and
well I'm still waiting

Thanks for you help

Greg Haff

----- Original Message -----

From: Mick

To: Modelships@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Wednesday, August 05, 2009 5:30 PM

Subject: Model ships ------- Question about clubs

 

Does anyone know of a scale model boat clubs in Russia? A link or contact? Looking to contact a club in Russia to get info on Russian Warships.
Mick

Does anyone know of a scale model boat clubs in Russia? A link or contact?
Looking to contact a club in Russia to get info on Russian Warships.
Mick

----- Original Message -----

From: Joe Boyd

To: Modelships@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Thursday, June 11, 2009 2:00 PM

Subject: RE: Model ships ------- Need Navy rating info -

Hey, I had some good times with the Marines back in the day. . .of course they were pretty nice to me because I was the one who processed their overnight requests. 

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From: Modelships@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Modelships@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of chieftoolmaker
Sent: Tuesday, June 09, 2009 10:31 PM
To: Modelships@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: Model ships ------- Need Navy rating info -

Yeo   Man, Joe! 

( not a typo! )

You are welcome....

Never thought I would be 'hobnobbing" with a swabbie.... :)

Jerry G (Glickstein)

----- Original Message -----

From: Joe Boyd

To: Modelships@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Tuesday, June 09, 2009 11:24 PM

Subject: RE: Model ships ------- Need Navy rating info -

That’s it!  I bet I handled at least 2000 pieces of traffic with that abbreviation on it, and I couldn’t remember it for the life of me!  Thanks for jogging this old yeoman’s memory.  I can finally get some sleep tonight.  JB

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From: Modelships@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Modelships@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of chieftoolmaker
Sent: Monday, June 08, 2009 2:16 PM
To: Modelships@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: Model ships ------- Need Navy rating info -

"fmf" to me, suggests Fleet Marine Force.

The Marines used the navy corpsmen for their medical needs

Jerry G (Glickstein)

aka Sgt Glick ( Ret.)

1951-1953 (Korea)

USMC

----- Original Message -----

From: max zepeda

To: Modelships@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Monday, June 08, 2009 3:36 PM

Subject: Re: Model ships ------- Need Navy rating info -

how is it used?   it could be Hospital corpsman 3rd class. --- On Sun, 6/7/09, Ron Hunt <arion_racing@att.net> wrote: From: Ron Hunt <arion_racing@att.net> Subject: Model ships ------- Need Navy rating info - To: "Model Ships" <Modelships@yahoogroups.com> Date: Sunday, June 7, 2009, 9:56 PM Can anyone please tell me exactly what - Hm3 "fmf" - stands for? Ron (FoMo)

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From: Joe Boyd

To: Modelships@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Tuesday, June 09, 2009 11:24 PM

Subject: RE: Model ships ------- Need Navy rating info -

That’s it!  I bet I handled at least 2000 pieces of traffic with that abbreviation on it, and I couldn’t remember it for the life of me!  Thanks for jogging this old yeoman’s memory.  I can finally get some sleep tonight.  JB

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From: Modelships@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Modelships@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of chieftoolmaker
Sent: Monday, June 08, 2009 2:16 PM
To: Modelships@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: Model ships ------- Need Navy rating info -

"fmf" to me, suggests Fleet Marine Force.

The Marines used the navy corpsmen for their medical needs

Jerry G (Glickstein)

aka Sgt Glick ( Ret.)

1951-1953 (Korea)

USMC

----- Original Message -----

From: max zepeda

To: Modelships@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Monday, June 08, 2009 3:36 PM

Subject: Re: Model ships ------- Need Navy rating info -

how is it used?   it could be Hospital corpsman 3rd class. --- On Sun, 6/7/09, Ron Hunt <arion_racing@att.net> wrote: From: Ron Hunt <arion_racing@att.net> Subject: Model ships ------- Need Navy rating info - To: "Model Ships" <Modelships@yahoogroups.com> Date: Sunday, June 7, 2009, 9:56 PM Can anyone please tell me exactly what - Hm3 "fmf" - stands for? Ron (FoMo)

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To: Modelships@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Monday, June 08, 2009 3:36 PM

Subject: Re: Model ships ------- Need Navy rating info -

how is it used?   it could be Hospital corpsman 3rd class. --- On Sun, 6/7/09, Ron Hunt <arion_racing@att.net> wrote: From: Ron Hunt <arion_racing@att.net> Subject: Model ships ------- Need Navy rating info - To: "Model Ships" <Modelships@yahoogroups.com> Date: Sunday, June 7, 2009, 9:56 PM Can anyone please tell me exactly what - Hm3 "fmf" - stands for?   Ron (FoMo)

Does anybody have the instructions for the ENTEX 1/350 Lusitania?

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I live in Mill Creek, north of Seattle, Washington State- grew up in San Pedro
California-
Actually, the RCN corvettes are interesting to me because they developed them
furthur than the Royal Navy- several retained the short forecastle until the end
of the war-and there were several differences that set most of thier ships apart
from the RN ones that make them interesting to me.
They also had a key role in the Battle of the Atlantic-
Having some Canadian friends also building corvettes is a plus too

--- In Modelships@yahoogroups.com, "Ronald Wild" <wild1is@...> wrote:
>
> Out of curiosity, Jim, where do you live? Sounds like you are canadian
too....Ron
>   ----- Original Message -----
>   From: Jim Hathaway
>   To: Modelships@yahoogroups.com
>   Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2009 6:56 PM
>   Subject: Re: Model ships ------- Corvette
>
>
>
>
>
>
>   The Revell Flower would be an interesting subject for some conversions- Bob
Pearson's great site shows his conversion of his into HMCS Wetaskwin, a short
forecastle Canadian corvette-
>   It looks like a fun project, and pretty straightforward except for bulding a
new bridge and (on most RCN corvettes) widening the stern if you decided to go
that far.
>   http://www.cbrnp.com/RNP/Flower/
>   If I do another Flower, I was thinking of HMCS Battleford or
Chicoutimi-(both as short forecastle corvettes) what keeps me from it is all
those photo-etched 4"shell holders around the 4" gun bandstand which I get a
headache just remembering.
>   Chicoutimi was a short forecastle corvette for her entire life, I believe
Battleford was refitted into a long forecastle corvette but in the HMCS Agassiz
AOTS there are some great shots of her in heavy seas.
>   There were also a few that had a postwar career in Civilian hands such as
Sudbury which became a salvage tug.
>   I saw a ready to run corvette model at my local hobbyshop which was done as
HMCS Agassiz. A strange mix of an entirely Revell superstructure (Not correct
for Agassiz) but a new hull with the Canadian wide stern-
>
>   --- In Modelships@yahoogroups.com, Ron Hunt <arion_racing@> wrote:
>   >
>   > Another great looking Corvette! Sure makes me wished I'd have kept at
least one of mine.
>   >
>   > Ron (FoMo)
>   >
>   > --- On Thu, 4/23/09, Ron Wild <wild1is@> wrote:
>   >
>   > From: Ron Wild <wild1is@>
>   > Subject: Model ships ------- Corvette
>   > To: Modelships@yahoogroups.com
>   > Date: Thursday, April 23, 2009, 4:54 PM
>   >
>   >
>   >
>   >
>   >
>   >
>   >
>   >
>   > I have uploaded a new file in the photo section under the name 'Ron's
Corvette'(a Matchbox 1/72 model kit)
>   >
>
>
>
>
>
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----- Original Message -----

From: Jim Hathaway

To: Modelships@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2009 6:56 PM

Subject: Re: Model ships ------- Corvette

The Revell Flower would be an interesting subject for some conversions- Bob Pearson's great site shows his conversion of his into HMCS Wetaskwin, a short forecastle Canadian corvette-
It looks like a fun project, and pretty straightforward except for bulding a new bridge and (on most RCN corvettes) widening the stern if you decided to go that far.
http://www.cbrnp.com/RNP/Flower/
If I do another Flower, I was thinking of HMCS Battleford or Chicoutimi-(both as short forecastle corvettes) what keeps me from it is all those photo-etched 4"shell holders around the 4" gun bandstand which I get a headache just remembering.
Chicoutimi was a short forecastle corvette for her entire life, I believe Battleford was refitted into a long forecastle corvette but in the HMCS Agassiz AOTS there are some great shots of her in heavy seas.
There were also a few that had a postwar career in Civilian hands such as Sudbury which became a salvage tug.
I saw a ready to run corvette model at my local hobbyshop which was done as HMCS Agassiz. A strange mix of an entirely Revell superstructure (Not correct for Agassiz) but a new hull with the Canadian wide stern-

--- In Modelships@yahoogroups.com, Ron Hunt <arion_racing@...> wrote:
>
> Another great looking Corvette! Sure makes me wished I'd have kept at least one of mine.
>  
> Ron (FoMo)
>
> --- On Thu, 4/23/09, Ron Wild <wild1is@...> wrote:
>
> From: Ron Wild <wild1is@...>
> Subject: Model ships ------- Corvette
> To: Modelships@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Thursday, April 23, 2009, 4:54 PM
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> I have uploaded a new file in the photo section under the name 'Ron's Corvette'(a Matchbox 1/72 model kit)
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The Revell Flower would be an interesting subject for some conversions- Bob
Pearson's great site shows his conversion of his into HMCS Wetaskwin, a  short
forecastle Canadian corvette-
It looks like a fun project, and pretty straightforward except for bulding a new
bridge and (on most RCN corvettes) widening the stern if you decided to go that
far.
http://www.cbrnp.com/RNP/Flower/
If I do another Flower, I was thinking of HMCS Battleford or Chicoutimi-(both as
short forecastle corvettes) what keeps me from it is all those photo-etched
4"shell holders around the 4" gun bandstand which I get a headache just
remembering.
Chicoutimi was a short forecastle corvette for her entire life, I believe
Battleford was refitted into a long forecastle corvette but in the HMCS Agassiz
AOTS there are some great shots of her in heavy seas.
There were also a few that had a postwar career in Civilian hands such as
Sudbury which became a salvage tug.
I saw a ready to run corvette model at my local hobbyshop which was done as HMCS
Agassiz. A strange mix of an entirely Revell superstructure (Not correct for
Agassiz) but a new hull with the Canadian wide stern-

--- In Modelships@yahoogroups.com, Ron Hunt <arion_racing@...> wrote:
>
> Another great looking Corvette! Sure makes me wished I'd have kept at least
one of mine.
>  
> Ron (FoMo)
>
> --- On Thu, 4/23/09, Ron Wild <wild1is@...> wrote:
>
> From: Ron Wild <wild1is@...>
> Subject: Model ships ------- Corvette
> To: Modelships@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Thursday, April 23, 2009, 4:54 PM
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> I have uploaded a new file in the photo section under the name 'Ron's
Corvette'(a Matchbox 1/72 model kit)
>

Finally got a chance to check out your pictures, good looking ship!

Ron (FoMo)


--- In Modelships@yahoogroups.com, "Jim Hathaway" <hathaway@...> wrote:

> Just posted progress photos of my corvette to the folder labeled "Campanula-
>

--- In Modelships@yahoogroups.com, WALTER A COOPER <walter_a_cooper@...> wrote:
>
> Hello Charle,really short notice here but,Just a quick reminder. The Northeast
Ship model conference will hold its annual show and competition on April 25th
2009. It is held in New London CT at the Port N Starboard banquet facility. The
joint clubs conference is a show for the members of nine east coast ship model
clubs. Last year we had about 160 or so participants and plenty of walk-ins as
it is open to the public for viewing. There were well over 75 models displayed.
There will also be 4 or 5 table top workshops that talk about different ship
model techniques and a guest speaker. Last year I presented one of the workshop
discussions which was about working with Sculpey. I am not sure what the
workshop discussions will be this year. 
> Walter Cooper Norwich Connecticut


Walter, thank you very much; this is exactly the type of information I was
seeking. I have already passed the information on.

Dear Moderator, no ad intended, merely seeking information such as Mr. Cooper so
kindly provided.

charles

Charles.

Please note, this is almost an Add
(Moderator)

A friend of mine makes and markets two different portable drum sanders
(marketted under the trade name, Sand-Flee) that I think would be perfect for
people who make miniature furniture, scale model boats, and diorama builders.
The reason I feel the tool to be perfect is because I use it on some very small,
fine scroll saw and laser cut items.

So, what I'm asking is if anyone knows of doll, miniature, game or other shows
or cons where he might be able to rent space, set up a demo and sell some
machines?

Please?

Charles

----- Original Message -----

From: Jim Hathaway

To: Modelships@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Thursday, April 23, 2009 7:28 PM

Subject: Model ships ------- Re: Submarine rescue ship

Thanks, Ron, no Bird class plans, but lots of interesting things there- I had tried Floating Drydock, and Maryland Silver Company, no dice there either.
They did have a set of plans for an ASR, but it is the 1950s-60s type. The one I would like to do is the 1930s type.
Great work on your corvette, it looks really nice! I had initially thought about doing Snowberry, she was one of the first 6 built in Canadian yards, but to British specs.
Corvettes of the RCN has some interesting photos of her taken around the time of D-day, and she has minesweeping davits on her stern- it is interesting because she was not built with them, and never had them before that time.
She may have been pressed into service sweeping the invasion beaches.
I could not see in the photos whether the winch was fitted, but I assume it was there.
In the end, I opted for HMS Campanula, mainly because Nicholas Monsarrat, the author of "The Cruel Sea" served as an officer aboard her-
I only found 4 photos of her, but from Monsarrat's descriptions in "Three Corvettes" I think he was aboard earlier than that- perhaps after construction, as a short forecastle corvette, but I was lucky to get the photos I did! The film "The Cruel Sea is useful because she (HMS Coreopsis) and Campanula were only about 6 apart, but there are differences I noted.
Coreopsis served in the Med and so had a quartet of 20mm Oerlikons aft (a pretty good indication that a corvette was based in the Med)- they were removed for the filming, but I spotted some 20 mm ready storage lockers on deck in the film which made me wonder and look for wartime photos.
Today is my Friday, so tomorrow, I will be converting my Mk-II depth charge throwers into Mk-IV. I am building her in 1943, and I need the engine room casing to be removable to access radio gear, and I could not have the depth charge arbors secured to the casing.
The Mk-IVs were being fitted to corvettes about that time, and did not use an arbor fitted to the charge.
--- In Modelships@yahoogroups.com, "Ron Wild" <wild1is@...> wrote:
>
> Ron....I have not heard of plans for a rescue ship as described by you. The only possible sources I can think of would be Loyal Hannah Plan Service (also under the name http://www.taubmansonline.com/)and perhaps the US Navy Archives. Ron Wild
>

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Thanks, Ron, no Bird class plans, but lots of interesting things there- I had
tried Floating Drydock, and Maryland Silver Company, no dice there either.
They did have a set of plans for an ASR, but it is the 1950s-60s type. The one I
would like to do is the 1930s type.
Great work on your corvette, it looks really nice! I had initially thought about
doing Snowberry, she was one of the first 6 built in Canadian yards, but to
British specs.
Corvettes of the RCN has some interesting photos of her taken around the time of
D-day, and she has minesweeping davits on her stern- it is interesting because
she was not built with them, and never had them before that time.
She may have been pressed into service sweeping the invasion beaches.
I could not see in the photos whether the winch was fitted, but I assume it was
there.
In the end, I opted for HMS Campanula, mainly because Nicholas Monsarrat, the
author of "The Cruel Sea" served as an officer aboard her-
I only found 4 photos of her, but from Monsarrat's descriptions in "Three
Corvettes" I think he was aboard earlier than that- perhaps after construction,
as a short forecastle corvette, but I was lucky to get the photos I did! The
film "The Cruel Sea is useful because she (HMS Coreopsis) and Campanula were
only about 6 apart, but there are differences I noted.
Coreopsis served in the Med and so had a quartet of 20mm Oerlikons aft (a pretty
good indication that a corvette was based in the Med)- they were removed for the
filming, but I spotted some 20 mm ready storage lockers on deck in the film
which made me wonder and look for wartime photos.
Today is my Friday, so tomorrow, I will be converting my Mk-II depth charge
throwers into Mk-IV.  I am building her in 1943, and I need the engine room
casing to be removable to access radio gear, and I could not have the depth
charge arbors secured to the casing.
The Mk-IVs were being fitted to corvettes about that time, and did not use an
arbor fitted to the charge.
--- In Modelships@yahoogroups.com, "Ron Wild" <wild1is@...> wrote:
>
> Ron....I have not heard of plans for a rescue ship as described by you.  The
only possible sources I can think of would be Loyal Hannah Plan Service (also
under the name http://www.taubmansonline.com/)and perhaps the US Navy Archives. 
Ron Wild
>

I have uploaded a new file in the photo section under the name 'Ron's
Corvette'(a Matchbox 1/72 model kit)

Ron....I have not heard of plans for a rescue ship as described by you.  The
only possible sources I can think of would be Loyal Hannah Plan Service (also
under the name http://www.taubmansonline.com/)and perhaps the US Navy Archives. 
Ron Wild