Does anybody have any clue why it's called the Neutral Point when it's
on a plane but it's called a Center of Pressure when it's on a rocket?

BTW, loosening up up a little tonight and kickin' it old school by
sketching out BG wings and their NPs on tracing paper with a ruler.

DGH

This is obviously a fake address. Bill Eichelberger? Never heard of him. :-P

--- In OldRockets@yahoogroups.com, <billeichelberger@...> wrote:
>
> ---- "Scott D. Hansen" <scotth@...> wrote:
> > Dan is a legit person everyone.  Cool down with the mass hysteria.
> >
> > Scott Hansen
> > OldRockets Co-Moderator
>
>
> Oh, REALLY!  And how do we know who YOU are?  I can see it now.  Call that
number and all your cell phone minutes are belong to them.
>

--- In OldRockets@yahoogroups.com, "StevenR" <steven424@...> wrote:
>
> While it is wise to be suspicious of these kinds of phishing emails, this one
is apparently legitimate.  A quick Google search on "dk54321" shows that Daniel
has posted a number of times in the OldRockets group, as far back as 2002.
>
> Sorry, Dan -- the discussion piqued my curiosity.  Did you ever get your phone
back?

No, but the last time I called, it went directly to voice mail without ringing,
which usually means it's turned off. And the voicemail was full.

---- "Scott D. Hansen" <scotth@...> wrote:
> Dan is a legit person everyone.  Cool down with the mass hysteria.
>
> Scott Hansen
> OldRockets Co-Moderator


Oh, REALLY!  And how do we know who YOU are?  I can see it now.  Call that
number and all your cell phone minutes are belong to them.

While it is wise to be suspicious of these kinds of phishing emails, this one is
apparently legitimate.  A quick Google search on "dk54321" shows that Daniel has
posted a number of times in the OldRockets group, as far back as 2002.

Sorry, Dan -- the discussion piqued my curiosity.  Did you ever get your phone
back?

--- In OldRockets@yahoogroups.com, Ez2cDave@... wrote:
>
> Disposable cell phones don't have GPS or at least they didn't used to have
> that feature.
>
> Dave
>
>
> In a message dated 12/4/2009 8:44:20 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
> SECTION515@... writes:
>
> If you  have GPS activated the phone can be  tracked
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

Doug,

I would use the BNC-60AB.  However, if you are concerned with using a resin
instead of balsa NC, you should look at this one:

http://www.semroc.com/Store/Scripts/prodView.asp?idproduct=2005

Cheers,

Jeff Walsh

-----Original Message-----

>If I was cloning Estes Design of the Month #73, the Orbital Transport
>Laboratory
>http://www.spacemodeling.org/JimZ/eirp_73.htm
>which nose cone would look cooler?
>The BMS clone of the BNC-60AB:
>http://www.balsamachining.com/dwgs/cones_2.gif
>or the Sirius Rocketry clone of the PNC-1978
>http://tinyurl.com/yku4ukp ?
>
>DGH

Another common phishing technique is to get people to call a number that
redirects to an offshore number in the Caribbean where they bill your account
insane amounts per minute. Getting those charges dropped or reversed can be a
nightmare. It shows up on your account from your carrier as a legit call and
getting your carrier to anull it can be difficult. I don't know if this is a
scam still in operation, but it was a problem a couple of years ago. Presumably
since the phone companies and authorities have wised up to it, it may be a dead
ruse.

Scott McCrate

--- In OldRockets@yahoogroups.com, "dk54321" <dk54321@...> wrote:
>
> --- In OldRockets@yahoogroups.com, "Jack Hagerty" <jhagerty@> wrote:
> > Don't take it too personally, Dan. With spammers, hackers and general
> > malfeasance on the web getting ever more sophisticated, it's good that folks
> > are this vigilant.  And, unintentionally, you did create an absolutely
> > perfect phishing post!
>
> That's the part I don't get. I thought phishing was trying to get people to
reveal data that would allow access to their financial accounts--account
numbers, passwords, social security numbers, mother's maiden name, etc.
>
> I understand "please forward this to everyone you know" can be used by
spammers to collect email addresses; that's why I don't send virus alerts (which
are always fake anyway) or "please forward this if you love Jesus" messages. I
didn't think about that before I sent the message. And I guess it would be one
way to collect a lot of phone numbers. But aren't there easier ways to collect
email addresses and phone numbers?
>

--- In OldRockets@yahoogroups.com, "Jack Hagerty" <jhagerty@...> wrote:
> Don't take it too personally, Dan. With spammers, hackers and general
> malfeasance on the web getting ever more sophisticated, it's good that folks
> are this vigilant.  And, unintentionally, you did create an absolutely
> perfect phishing post!

That's the part I don't get. I thought phishing was trying to get people to
reveal data that would allow access to their financial accounts--account
numbers, passwords, social security numbers, mother's maiden name, etc.

I understand "please forward this to everyone you know" can be used by spammers
to collect email addresses; that's why I don't send virus alerts (which are
always fake anyway) or "please forward this if you love Jesus" messages. I
didn't think about that before I sent the message. And I guess it would be one
way to collect a lot of phone numbers. But aren't there easier ways to collect
email addresses and phone numbers?

--- In OldRockets@yahoogroups.com, "Scott D. Hansen" <scotth@...> wrote:
> Dan is a legit person everyone.  Cool down with the mass hysteria.
>
> Scott Hansen
> OldRockets Co-Moderator

Thanks, and as Han Solo said, sorry about the mess.

--- In OldRockets@yahoogroups.com, "dk54321" <dk54321@...> wrote:
> The police and the cell phone company aren't interested.

Not surprised about the prepaid cell company (they already got their money), but
the police attitude is quite improper. Go back to the cops and get a police
report, and don't take no for an answer. I'd contact whatever elected officials
are in control of this police department, and report them as unresponsive. With
GPS enabled phones, it should be pretty easy to track the thief!

And whoever said otherwise, ALL phones are now GPS enabled, even the prepaid
units. Unless you've still got a carrier that supports the old analog phones
there's nothing else out there. Tracfone (my prepaid carrier) dropped the analog
phone support several years ago.

I think I would also have a little talk with the manager of the store where your
phone was turned in to lost & found, then handed out to the wrong person. I've
lost a couple things like that recently, and stores checked my ID before
returning the items. They should have at least asked for a phone description or
the phone number before just handing it over to whoever asked for it.

My apologies again. Of course Dan could have a new career in writing phishing
e-mails, that one was pretty good!

Scott McCrate

--- In OldRockets@yahoogroups.com, "Scott D. Hansen" <scotth@...> wrote:
>
> Dan is a legit person everyone.  Cool down with the mass hysteria.
>
> Scott Hansen
> OldRockets Co-Moderator

Sorry for casting suspicions on you Dan! I could have done the detective work to
look up posts by you. I'm pretty gunshy about anything fishy (or phishy) on the
net.

Scott McCrate

--- In OldRockets@yahoogroups.com, "dk54321" <dk54321@...> wrote:
>
> Search my user name / address, and you'll find I've been a frequent poster on
this list for years--at least since rmr started going downhill. It's Racine,
Wisconsin, not Racing. I fly with WOOSH (NAR Section #558) at Bong State
Recreation Area. The phone itself cost $20, so it's disposable. The police and
the cell phone company aren't interested. It's prepaid, as I mentioned, so I
won't be stuck with a bill. I was just trying to think of a creative way to
deprive the thief of the benefit of my few remaining minutes. I guess I can see
how someone might think that was suspicious, once someone got the thread going
that way, and I'm willing to apologize to the powers that be if they'll call off
the vigilantes. I'm signing my name and NAR number. I forgot to type it the
first time because I was in a hurry, and mad about losing my phone.
>
> Daniel Kirk NAR #75066 L1
> dk54321@...
>
> P.S. Did I ever tell you about my Grandpa and Teri Garr? Allis-Chalmers
Persian Orange is a highly-visible, period-authentic Old Rocket color, so that
makes this on-topic.  dk = my initials. I don't think I need to explain 54321.
Are people with gmail not welcome here?
>

If I was cloning Estes Design of the Month #73, the Orbital Transport
Laboratory
http://www.spacemodeling.org/JimZ/eirp_73.htm
which nose cone would look cooler?
The BMS clone of the BNC-60AB:
http://www.balsamachining.com/dwgs/cones_2.gif
or the Sirius Rocketry clone of the PNC-1978
http://tinyurl.com/yku4ukp ?

DGH

>  Did I ever tell you about my Grandpa and Teri Garr?



No, please elaborate!



> dk = my initials. I don't think I need to explain 54321. Are people with
gmail not welcome here?



Don't take it too personally, Dan. With spammers, hackers and general
malfeasance on the web getting ever more sophisticated, it's good that folks
are this vigilant.  And, unintentionally, you did create an absolutely
perfect phishing post!



- Jack



Jack Hagerty, ARA Press

http://www.arapress.com

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At 02:08 PM 12/6/2009, you wrote:
>Search my user name / address, and you'll find I've been a frequent
>poster on this list for years--at least since rmr started going
>downhill. It's Racine, Wisconsin, not Racing. I fly with WOOSH (NAR
>Section #558) at Bong State Recreation Area. The phone itself cost
>$20, so it's disposable. The police and the cell phone company
>aren't interested. It's prepaid, as I mentioned, so I won't be stuck
>with a bill. I was just trying to think of a creative way to deprive
>the thief of the benefit of my few remaining minutes. I guess I can
>see how someone might think that was suspicious, once someone got
>the thread going that way, and I'm willing to apologize to the
>powers that be if they'll call off the vigilantes. I'm signing my
>name and NAR number. I forgot to type it the first time because I
>was in a hurry, and mad about losing my phone.
>
>Daniel Kirk NAR #75066 L1
>dk54321@...
>
>P.S. Did I ever tell you about my Grandpa and Teri Garr?
>Allis-Chalmers Persian Orange is a highly-visible, period-authentic
>Old Rocket color, so that makes this on-topic.  dk = my initials. I
>don't think I need to explain 54321. Are people with gmail not welcome here?

Dan is a legit person everyone.  Cool down with the mass hysteria.

Scott Hansen
OldRockets Co-Moderator

Search my user name / address, and you'll find I've been a frequent poster on
this list for years--at least since rmr started going downhill. It's Racine,
Wisconsin, not Racing. I fly with WOOSH (NAR Section #558) at Bong State
Recreation Area. The phone itself cost $20, so it's disposable. The police and
the cell phone company aren't interested. It's prepaid, as I mentioned, so I
won't be stuck with a bill. I was just trying to think of a creative way to
deprive the thief of the benefit of my few remaining minutes. I guess I can see
how someone might think that was suspicious, once someone got the thread going
that way, and I'm willing to apologize to the powers that be if they'll call off
the vigilantes. I'm signing my name and NAR number. I forgot to type it the
first time because I was in a hurry, and mad about losing my phone.

Daniel Kirk NAR #75066 L1
dk54321@...

P.S. Did I ever tell you about my Grandpa and Teri Garr? Allis-Chalmers Persian
Orange is a highly-visible, period-authentic Old Rocket color, so that makes
this on-topic.  dk = my initials. I don't think I need to explain 54321. Are
people with gmail not welcome here?

On Sun, Dec 6, 2009 at 3:05 AM,  <lowdogrent@...> wrote:

> Just sounds like either a phone number telemarking expedention, or a way to
>  annoy (stalking by proxy?) someones  'ex' somebody with a barrage  of
> 'mystery' calls
>
>

My first thought was 'barrage of calls to an ex'....

Eldred
--
Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, prepare to die. (Klingon proverb)

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Moderator needs to ban them.

End of thread


Jeff Graham
jgraham1971@...
www.graphicsjedi.com

   ----- Original Message -----
   From: lowdogrent@...
   To: OldRockets@yahoogroups.com
   Sent: Sunday, December 06, 2009 3:05 AM
   Subject: Re: [OldRockets] Re: OT My cell phone was stolen today



   Im not Not wise in the ways of lost cell phones, but...

   there is alot of this email that seems phishy, sort of a generic email
   e-dress, they didnt sign it with a real name, even a partial one.

   Ive got other issues with it, like is this an eficent or effective way to
   deal with a situation like this? Seems to me, the best way to deal with a
   stolen phone would be to file a police report, and let the service provider
   know.

   Just sounds like either a phone number telemarking expedention, or a way to
   annoy (stalking by proxy?) someones 'ex' somebody with a barrage of
   'mystery' calls




   ____________________________________
   From: jgraham1971@...
   Reply-to: OldRockets@yahoogroups.com
   To: OldRockets@yahoogroups.com
   Sent: 12/5/2009 6:05:07 P.M. Mountain Standard Time
   Subj: Re: [OldRockets] Re: OT My cell phone was stolen today

   Who do we know in Racing Wisconsin?

   Jeff Graham
   _jgraham1971@jgraham1971_ (mailto:jgraham1971@...)
   www.graphicsjedi.www

   ----- Original Message -----
   From: Scooter
   To: _OldRockets@yahoogroOldRock_ (mailto:OldRockets@yahoogroups.com)
   Sent: Saturday, December 05, 2009 7:50 PM
   Subject: [OldRockets] Re: OT My cell phone was stolen today

   Does anyone recognize this poster? The plea to have us call that number
   sounds like a phishing maneuver to trick unwary people into calling a number
   that will bill their account. I recommend anyone on this list not call that
   number and certainly don't "ask your friends" to call it.

   Scott McCrate

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   [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]





[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Im not Not wise in the ways of lost cell phones, but...

there is alot of this email that seems phishy, sort of a generic email
e-dress, they didnt sign it with a real name, even a partial one.

Ive got other issues with it, like is this an eficent or effective way to
deal with a situation like this? Seems to me, the best way to deal with a
stolen  phone would be to file a police report, and let the service provider
know.

Just sounds like either a phone number telemarking expedention, or a way to
  annoy (stalking by proxy?) someones  'ex' somebody with a barrage  of
'mystery' calls




____________________________________
  From: jgraham1971@...
Reply-to: OldRockets@yahoogroups.com
To:  OldRockets@yahoogroups.com
Sent: 12/5/2009 6:05:07 P.M. Mountain Standard  Time
Subj: Re: [OldRockets] Re: OT My cell phone was stolen today





Who do we know in Racing Wisconsin?

Jeff Graham
_jgraham1971@jgraham1971_ (mailto:jgraham1971@...)
www.graphicsjedi.www

-----  Original Message -----
From: Scooter
To: _OldRockets@yahoogroOldRock_ (mailto:OldRockets@yahoogroups.com)
Sent: Saturday, December 05, 2009 7:50 PM
Subject: [OldRockets] Re: OT  My cell phone was stolen today

Does anyone recognize this poster? The  plea to have us call that number
sounds like a phishing maneuver to trick  unwary people into calling a number
that will bill their account. I recommend  anyone on this list not call that
number and certainly don't "ask your  friends" to call it.

Scott McCrate

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[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Who do we know in Racing Wisconsin?


Jeff Graham
jgraham1971@...
www.graphicsjedi.com

   ----- Original Message -----
   From: Scooter
   To: OldRockets@yahoogroups.com
   Sent: Saturday, December 05, 2009 7:50 PM
   Subject: [OldRockets] Re: OT My cell phone was stolen today



   Does anyone recognize this poster? The plea to have us call that number sounds
like a phishing maneuver to trick unwary people into calling a number that will
bill their account. I recommend anyone on this list not call that number and
certainly don't "ask your friends" to call it.

   Scott McCrate





[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Does anyone recognize this poster? The plea to have us call that number sounds
like a phishing maneuver to trick unwary people into calling a number that will
bill their account. I recommend anyone on this list not call that number and
certainly don't "ask your friends" to call it.

Scott McCrate

Disposable cell phones don't have GPS or at least they didn't used to have
that feature.

Dave


In a message dated 12/4/2009 8:44:20 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
SECTION515@... writes:

If you  have GPS activated the phone can be  tracked


[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

If you still have the phone manual, call the phone company and explain that your
phone
was stolen and give them your phone number, when you buy a new phone they can
transfer
your minutes and phone number to your new phone, the thief will not beable to
make calls.
If you have GPS activated the phone can be tracked. Good luck.


Dr. Warren Layfield, Ph.D.
Section Advisor / Education Director
Colorado Springs Rocket Society  (COSROCS)#515
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I was just pulling out of Wal-Mart's parking lot when I realized I didn't have
it. I went back in and retraced my steps, but couldn't find it. I checked with
customer service, but they said it hadn't been turned in. I gave them the number
and they called it, but no one answered.

I found a pay phone, called home, and told my wife. She tried calling my cell.
Someone picked up, but wouldn't talk. She called Wal-Mart, and they said the
phone had been found and someone had claimed it already. Apparently someone saw
the phone being turned in, and decided they wanted it.

It was a prepaid phone, and I only had about 60 minutes on it at the time, so
I'm not out that much. Once those minutes are gone, the phone will be worthless.
I'd like to burn through the minutes. If this number is a free call for you,
please call it. If enough people call, the minutes will be used up before the
thief has a chance to use many of them. Please pass this message and this number
on to your friends:

(262) 902-0516

On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 10:21 PM, doug holverson <dholverson@...> wrote:
> Yesterday was my 49th birthday. The 36th anniversary of getting that
> first Model Rocket starter set.
>

Happy Belated Birthday, Doug!

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Yesterday was my 49th birthday. The 36th anniversary of getting that
first Model Rocket starter set.

Also ten years after getting entangled on what became Fun Rockets. I
still can't believe that played out so badly.

Also 20 years after the first incarnation of InterStellar OverDrive.
Another pet project that I'm still a sore about getting killed before
it really had a chance to live.

Tonight, I showed off my old MPC kits at the Omaha Rocket Club
meeting. Now I can go on and build them. I'm amused by the coloring of
the plastic parts and the undersized tenons shared with the early
Quest kits.

OTOH, I was thinking about Canaroc. You don't hear much about them
here despite being wholly on topic. It seemed like they had some
really creative fantasy kits back in the day.

Dang! They mentioned orange paint over on an Allis Chalmers group and
I forgot to mention its uses in Model Rocketry. Well, it is a high
visibility color that's also period authentic for those Old Rockets.

Was working on some art for my web comic. Here's a work-in-progress
page that's part of a dream sequence drawn up to look like '70s comic
book art. It features a spaceship based on the Estes DOM Orbital
Transport Laboratory. Also a Major Matt Mason based space suit. And
some Kirby and some...
http://showcase.netins.net/web/flexia/scans331.jpg

BTW, is it just me or does the Orbital Transport Laboratory have a
thick MOL groove to it?

OT, "there's an app for that":
http://showcase.netins.net/web/flexia/pp21experimental.jpg
Yes, another period pastiche. Sometimes I feel like an epigone....

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I have had some success with the high heat engine paint under some aluminum
tape. (the type used to wrap furnace ducting)  Also have used the tape to
protect exposed surfaces of B and C boost gliders.

JCW Boise
   ----- Original Message -----
   From: missilemanmark@...<mailto:missilemanmark@...>
   To: OldRockets@yahoogroups.com<mailto:OldRockets@yahoogroups.com>
   Sent: Saturday, November 14, 2009 6:11 PM
   Subject: Re: [OldRockets] Paint



   Those type's of paint are good but, Lows sell a paint that can withstand
   temps of 1200 degrees +.
   It's a paint that is used to refinish grills and other high temp fixtures.
   It also wont flake off under high heat like some other paints out there.
   Not sure what colors it comes in. I know they have black, red, silver and if
   I recall white.

   Mark C.


   In a message dated 11/14/2009 12:22:16 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
   jgraham1971@...<mailto:jgraham1971%40comcast.net> writes:

   You may want to try some automotive header manifold paint. it contains
   ceramic that might be useful. Break caliper paint is good to 900 degrees and
   motor paint is good to 500 degrees.

   Never tried them on rockets.

   Jeff Graham
   _jgraham1971@jgraham1971_
(mailto:jgraham1971@...<mailto:jgraham1971%40comcast.net>)
   www.graphicsjedi.www

   ----- Original Message -----
   From: _mark@...<mailto:_mark%40aerobasic.mar>_
(mailto:mark@...<mailto:mark%40aerobasic.com>)
   To: _OldRockets@yahoogroOldRock_
(mailto:OldRockets@yahoogroups.com<mailto:OldRockets%40yahoogroups.com>)
   Sent: Saturday, November 14, 2009 10:01 AM
   Subject: [OldRockets] Paint

   Is there still any heat shielding paint out there?
   I remember buying a small bottle of it from Estes the first year I started
   rocketry.

   I want to shield two strap on boosters of a 1st stge cluster that extend
   (to hold recovery devices) beyond the 2nd stage.

   1st stage - 3 side by side engines - centered booster - 2 sides delayed
   2nd stage - 1 engine - centered - delayed

   Thank Ya
   Mark Barkasy Sr
   NAR 5038

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   Checked by AVG - www.avg.com
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[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Those type's of paint are good but, Lows sell a paint that can withstand
temps of 1200 degrees +.
It's a paint that is used to refinish grills and other high temp fixtures.
It also wont flake off under high heat like some other paints out there.
Not  sure what colors it comes in. I know they have black, red, silver and if
I  recall white.

Mark C.


In a message dated 11/14/2009 12:22:16 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
jgraham1971@... writes:




You may want to try some automotive header manifold paint. it contains
ceramic that might be useful. Break caliper paint is good to 900 degrees and
motor paint is good to 500 degrees.

Never tried them on  rockets.

Jeff Graham
_jgraham1971@jgraham1971_ (mailto:jgraham1971@...)
www.graphicsjedi.www

-----  Original Message -----
From: _mark@..._ (mailto:mark@...)
To: _OldRockets@yahoogroOldRock_ (mailto:OldRockets@yahoogroups.com)
Sent: Saturday, November 14, 2009 10:01 AM
Subject: [OldRockets]  Paint

Is there still any heat shielding paint out there?
I remember  buying a small bottle of it from Estes the first year I started
  rocketry.

I want to shield two strap on boosters of a 1st stge cluster  that extend
(to hold recovery devices) beyond the 2nd stage.

1st stage  - 3 side by side engines - centered booster - 2 sides delayed
2nd stage - 1  engine - centered - delayed

Thank Ya
Mark Barkasy Sr
NAR  5038

----------------------------------------------------------

Internal  Virus Database is out of date.
Checked by AVG - www.avg.com
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  07:43:00

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You may want to try some automotive header  manifold paint. it contains ceramic
that might be useful.  Break caliper paint is good to 900 degrees and motor
paint is good to 500 degrees.

Never tried them on rockets.

Jeff Graham
jgraham1971@...
www.graphicsjedi.com

   ----- Original Message -----
   From: mark@...
   To: OldRockets@yahoogroups.com
   Sent: Saturday, November 14, 2009 10:01 AM
   Subject: [OldRockets] Paint



   Is there still any heat shielding paint out there?
   I remember buying a small bottle of it from Estes the first year I started
rocketry.

   I want to shield two strap on boosters of a 1st stge cluster that extend (to
hold recovery devices) beyond the 2nd stage.

   1st stage - 3 side by side engines - centered booster - 2 sides delayed
   2nd stage - 1 engine - centered - delayed

   Thank Ya
   Mark Barkasy Sr
   NAR 5038





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   Internal Virus Database is out of date.
   Checked by AVG - www.avg.com
   Version: 8.5.425 / Virus Database: 270.14.65/2502 - Release Date: 11/14/09
07:43:00


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