PARADIGMS Me: "...a tiny minority of Christians (they call themselves 'theistic evolutionists') fervently argue for Darwinism..." gluadys: "Not a tiny...
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Clare Wilson Parr
turandot1125
Mar 2, 2009 12:23 am
... As I have very plainly explained more than a few times, I don't care what the "best _inference_ to a NATURALISTIC explanation" is, and I care even less...
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Randy Crum
carumba17
Mar 2, 2009 12:23 am
It seems that all of the discussion threads on this forum discuss evolution. I'm curious. What possible alternative is there that explains the diversity of...
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Pasha
deflowerer
Mar 2, 2009 12:24 am
Here are a couple of good books everyone ought to add to their reading list. EVOLUTION:The Overwhelming Evidence Massimo Pigliucci Why Evolution Is True by...
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Randy Crum
carumba17
Mar 2, 2009 12:25 am
... Correct. But in order to do that, you first have to actually MAKE a prediction. ID and other forms of creationism make no predictions that can be tested....
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Randy Crum
carumba17
Mar 2, 2009 12:25 am
... It's true enough that you didn't talk about Neptune. Pasha raised that subject. I apologize. ... Do you really think that life would not exist on Earth...
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James Goff
jimmygoff2001
Mar 2, 2009 12:25 am
A CHALLENGE-COMBINED RESPONSE.... Randy: "...complexity has absolutely NOTHING to do with recognizing design." Design theorists say the same thing. Complexity,...
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gluadys
Mar 2, 2009 4:31 am
... Hmmm… Examples of empirical observations leading to the theory of evolution: The diversification of finches and turtles in the Galapagos islands The...
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Randy Crum
carumba17
Mar 2, 2009 4:32 am
... Instead, you like other creationists, prefer to believe in a deceptive God - one who makes it look like things have evolved when they claim that they...
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temlakos
Mar 2, 2009 4:32 am
... That alternative is Biblical creation. That alternative is that God created life, and furthermore created it in multiple different kinds. Temlakos...
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James Goff
jimmygoff2001
Mar 3, 2009 1:50 am
PARADIGMS Randy: "Do you really think that life would not exist on Earth without Jupiter and Saturn in their position?" I think it's unlikely that life would...
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Clare Wilson Parr
turandot1125
Mar 3, 2009 1:50 am
... The obvious: <<quote>> Random variation offers the mountaineer an allowance of small changes. Chance is at work. Natural selection freezes the successful...
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Laurie Appleton
lkappleus
Mar 3, 2009 1:51 am
... From: Randy Crum To: OriginsTalk@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, March 01, 2009 7:53 AM Subject: [OriginsTalk] Re: Paradigms, accusations, and integrity ... ...
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Laurie Appleton
lkappleus
Mar 3, 2009 1:51 am
... From: Randy Crum To: OriginsTalk@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, March 02, 2009 10:19 AM Subject: [OriginsTalk] Alternative to Evolution RC: It seems that...
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Pasha
deflowerer
Mar 3, 2009 1:51 am
SYSTEMS BIOLOGY: Footprints in the Oceans Barbara R. Jasny Laboratory research works well in identifying the responses of individual organisms to a series of...
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Randy Crum
carumba17
Mar 3, 2009 1:51 am
... You misunderstand. When I say that complexity has NOTHING to do with recognizing ID, I mean that it is JUST as likely that ID removes complexity as it does...
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Victor
ptolemy1022
Mar 3, 2009 1:51 am
... The God of the Bible never decieves in word or action. He does not predispose anyone or tempt anyone to evil. Yet according to the Bible - He hides...
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Clare Wilson Parr
turandot1125
Mar 3, 2009 1:51 am
... To which I can only reply, so what? As for "empirical observation[s]," an observation isn't "empirical" but the first step to empiricism, the next step ...
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gluadys
Mar 4, 2009 2:46 pm
... True. In America, somewhat over half are non/anti-evolution creationists/IDists. The rest are the theistic evolutionists. In other countries, the...
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Pasha
deflowerer
Mar 4, 2009 2:47 pm
Jim writes: A Christian should be concerned if even one person is won over to atheism by Darwinism. The Christian who is unconcerned by that makes it clear...
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Clare Wilson Parr
turandot1125
Mar 4, 2009 2:47 pm
... You, like every Darwinist I've encountered, presume to "know" what an opponent prefers by gazing wishfully at your crystal ball. Your silly assertion that...
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Randy Crum
carumba17
Mar 4, 2009 2:47 pm
... That is incorrect, actually. The Big Bang says that we can't know what existed prior to its occurence. There is no reason to hypothesize that it was not...
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Victor
ptolemy1022
Mar 4, 2009 2:47 pm
Scientists are preparing the Herschel space telescope for launch. Technicians cleaned the 3.5-meter primary and secondary mirrors with high pressure liquid...
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gluadys
Mar 4, 2009 2:47 pm
... The theory does indeed inform the interpretation. What if someone had discovered that during an eclipse Star A appears at position X without having a...
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Pasha
deflowerer
Mar 4, 2009 2:47 pm
Jim writes: (Quoting Mayr) "Why does the fossil record fail to reflect the gradual change one would expect from evolution?" Mayr responds (in answer to his...
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Pasha
deflowerer
Mar 4, 2009 2:47 pm
Jim writes: Carving a tombstone or building a house actualizes specifications that exist independently of the carving and the building. Pasha responds: The...
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James Goff
jimmygoff2001
Mar 4, 2009 2:47 pm
PARADIGMS Me: "The spontaneous appearance of particles at the quantum level doesn't entail that nothing causes them to 'wink into existence.' The cause may not...
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Randy Crum
carumba17
Mar 4, 2009 2:47 pm
... But a belief in a literal Bible requires a belief in a God who is cruel, deceptive and not very competent. Therefore it is fundamenatally an anti-God...
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James Goff
jimmygoff2001
Mar 4, 2009 2:47 pm
A CHALLENGE-COMBINED RESPONSE.... Randy: "When I say that complexity has NOTHING to do with recognizing ID, I mean that it is JUST as likely that ID removes...
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Randy Crum
carumba17
Mar 5, 2009 1:04 am
... You, like every creationist I've encountered, fails to understand the logical implications of their stated beliefs and actions. Have you heard that actions...
