I have a sleeveless readymade dress....I want to make a sleeve for it;
however; I want the sleeve cut as one with the dress. Sort of like a
dolman..but more slender up under the arm, perhaps using a gusset..I
hope this makes sense...thanks so much for any advice
deborah

Hello Kathleen,

I'd love to know about that boo-boo too.
I'm eagerly awaiting your reply!

Laura



--- In PatternDesign@yahoogroups.com, Kathleen Fasanella
<kathleen_fasanella@...> wrote:
>
> > Borders...anyways I was wondering if you might share with us that
> > particular boo-boo.
>
> It's going to have to wait until next week; I'm swamped (and behind
on
> email). I'm frankly surprised there's so much interest. Pattern
books
> have plenty of errors in them. I find them all the time. Even write
> about it on my blog.
>
> > The title of the Manual I have is
> > grading techniques for fashion design
> > second edition
> > Jeanne Price Bernard Zamkoff
>
> > The boo-boo may or may not be in the manual I have but I would
like
> > to research and make sure it isn't there and if it is, then I'll
be
> > able to address it when necessary
>
> Do you have a name?
>
> I don't like that grading book (very convoluted explanations), but
no,
> the one I mention isn't in there.
> Kathleen F.
>
> ~~~Nurture people, not products~~~
> http://www.fashion-incubator.com
>

well..i mean i am going to use the RTW dress as a pattern, but want to
make a sleeve in one piece with the dress.

--- In PatternDesign@yahoogroups.com, "ohmeme50" <badpas2@...> wrote:
>
> I have a sleeveless readymade dress....I want to make a sleeve for it;
> however; I want the sleeve cut as one with the dress. Sort of like a
> dolman..but more slender up under the arm, perhaps using a gusset..I
> hope this makes sense...thanks so much for any advice
> deborah
>

join this group. But I guess it isnt for me....BTW, I found the
solution to my previous questions.
have a pleasant wkend

hello everyone

i have been a member of the group for some time now but have never
posted before.

i made a dress out of a remnant of rayon crepe and because i didn't
have enought fabric to cut out one piece sleeves used armstrong's
pattern drafting book to draft a petal sleeve.

now it is alright, but not quite right.   the two pieces of the petal
sleeve drape don't look neat and hug the arm like in the diagram.   is
this because i used rayon crepe and not a crisper fabric such as
cotton ie do i need to reduce the leaf edge of the petal sleeves when
using soft drapey fabrics like rayon?

i have checked all my other pattern making books but there are no
instuctions in any of them for petal sleeves.

i would be grateful if anyone here had any suggestions for the future
- i like the petal sleeves, as i am tired of plain sleeves, or
suggestions for books that have drafts for these sleeves.

if the answer is simply to keep plugging on until i develop my own
sleeve pattern please say so.

thank you

ruth

hi,can you tell me what is the difrence of a pattren maker who use the
pattren making softwares which is all raddy having all kinds of
pattren just give the size and make littel adjustment and pattren is
rady , but one person hwo creat his own on autocad any kind of men
wear . what is good between them .

actualy i am a cutting master basicly all kind of man dresses i cutt
recently i complet the autocad course and know i draft perfectly all
pattrens on autocad but i don't now the way to improve my cad
expireance ,please if some body understand share with me the
expireance .  thank you .

I have tried a few of the patternmaking software programs. None
of them allow you to choose a design, input the measurements
and print out a nearly perfect pattern. They take time to learn.
They are programmed for the home sewer.

If you can design menswear with AutoCad, I'd just stick with it.
The way to improve your AutoCad experience is to practice,
practice, practice.

Are you a professional tailor? How do you use the patterns you
design? Do you make a living with them? Where do you live?

> hi,can you tell me what is the difrence of a pattren maker who use the
> pattren making softwares which is all raddy having all kinds of
> pattren just give the size and make littel adjustment and pattren is
> rady , but one person hwo creat his own on autocad any kind of men
> wear . what is good between them .
>
> actualy i am a cutting master basicly all kind of man dresses i cutt
> recently i complet the autocad course and know i draft perfectly all
> pattrens on autocad but i don't now the way to improve my cad
> expireance ,please if some body understand share with me the
> expireance .  thank you .
>
>
>
> Moderator mailto:kathleen.sews@...
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>


---
Kathleen Chevalier
northern Virginia, USA

I have tried a few of the patternmaking software programs. None
of them allow you to choose a design, input the measurements
and print out a nearly perfect pattern. They take time to learn.
They are programmed for the home sewer.

If you can design menswear with AutoCad, I'd just stick with it.
The way to improve your AutoCad experience is to practice,
practice, practice.

Are you a professional tailor? How do you use the patterns you
design? Do you make a living with them? Where do you live?

> hi,can you tell me what is the difrence of a pattren maker who use the
> pattren making softwares which is all raddy having all kinds of
> pattren just give the size and make littel adjustment and pattren is
> rady , but one person hwo creat his own on autocad any kind of men
> wear . what is good between them .
>
> actualy i am a cutting master basicly all kind of man dresses i cutt
> recently i complet the autocad course and know i draft perfectly all
> pattrens on autocad but i don't now the way to improve my cad
> expireance ,please if some body understand share with me the
> expireance . thank you .
>
>
>
> Moderator mailto:kathleen.sews@verizon.net
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>

---
Kathleen Chevalier
northern Virginia, USA

Hi!
I have the patternmaking software program , which  if you  input
measurements you can take nearly perfect pattern , men or female
garments using AutCad .
See :http://www.freewebs .com/jargor/ krawiec.html


This is old version , but if you interesting it  I get  English
version end new demo.

Jarek

I would be very interested in that software.'

Mary

I would be interested in the English version.

Lisa

--- In PatternDesign@yahoogroups.com, Jargor gorik <jargor222@...>
wrote:
>
> Hi!
> I have the patternmaking software program , which  if you  input
measurements you can take nearly perfect pattern , men or female
garments using AutCad .
> See :http://www.freewebs.com/jargor/krawiec.html
>
>
> This is old version , but if you interesting it  I get  English
version end new demo.
>
> Jarek
>

I would be interested in the English version.

Lisa

--- In PatternDesign@yahoogroups.com, Jargor gorik <jargor222@...>
wrote:
>
> Hi!
> I have the patternmaking software program , which if you input
measurements you can take nearly perfect pattern , men or female
garments using AutCad .
> See :http://www.freewebs.com/jargor/krawiec.html
>
>
> This is old version , but if you interesting it I get English
version end new demo.
>
> Jarek
>

just wondering if anyone has a pattern for a dry suit ?
David

--- In PatternDesign@yahoogroups.com, "rani ness" <adorehymn@...> wrote:
>
> so is a dry suit like a wet suit?
>
> Lorraine
> who hasn't introduced herself yet.......  but is certainly curious!  =]
>

sort of :-) more like diving in a plastic bag. its meant to keep you dry
a wet suit keeps you wet.

the reason i joined this group was to try to work out how to make
patterns for making a dry suit. still just doing a lot of reading

David

Mmm..  patternmaking is one thing, but how are you at sewing in general?
None of those technical fabrics are the least bit easy, and besides your
machine may not handle them at all.  Moreover, a dry suit implies
extremely well sealed seams, and it's a rare amateur that manages that,
even companies with serious industrial equipment don't always get it
right...

That said, for scuba diving the main sensible fabric is probably crushed
neoprene, which is somewhat stretchy.  I believe the other obvious water
choice, Malden Mills' AquaShell, isn't suitable for total immersion like
scuba diving.  Anything else 'dry' is based on sealed layers of cordura
and such, whether laminated together or not.  It seems that something
stretchy would be very preferable, so you wouldn't have wads of fabric
floating around you, that couldn't be right.

And in that case you'd do best to start with something simple like the
KwikSew http://kwiksew.com/Catalog/cat_detail.cfm?pid=2335
Make it in a lycra with stretch similar to what you're really planning,
test it out, and adjust as necessary before you cut the expensive stuff.

But unless you're a really unusual size it's probably better to save your
money and buy something already made.  You won't have much savings in the
end from the heinously expensive fabrics necessary (and the matching
notions), your chances of screwing it up are significant, and you'll need
to do some extensive research not only on patternmaking but all aspects of
sewing and design.  Did you plan on going diving this year :-)?  That said
-I- am an unusual size (way too big in all dimensions for women's clothes,
can't squeeze my shape into men's) so I do end up doing most of my
technical clothes myself.  But it's a bitch, to put it plainly.  And I
think that what I can manage for climbing or skiing is a lot less
difficult than what you need for scuba diving.  Although I think a
garden-variety wetsuit wouldn't be difficult, but you're talking about a
whole different realm.

Marie-Christine

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> Mmm..  patternmaking is one thing, but how are you at sewing in
general?

well I think I could manage to sew in General. I have a walking foot
patcher for leather and another industrial singer for the easyer stuf
and a Jones for light domestic work.


> None of those technical fabrics are the least bit easy, and besides
your machine may not handle them at all.

yes the fabric I plan to use is trilaminate  Cordura/Rubber/Cordura
its a firm fabric that has no stretch normaly and  quite alot if cut
on the bias (i was supprised by how much )

as it is only 1 mm thick you cant stich it like neopren and kleep it
water proof. Each stitch makes hole these are fixed later with glue
and rubber tape.

The fabric costs about £50 pounds a meter it will take about 7 meters
to make a dry suit, I am not trying to save money :-)

but it would be nice to have some clues on what softwear other people
are using to make patterns with. :-)

I have two other suits that I will be using this year thanks.

David



  but you're talking about a
> whole different realm.
>
> Marie-Christine
>

yes I am  and I have no clue where to start :-) any help is good Thanks

I use Pattern Master Boutique from www.wildginger.com - but don't use it
extensively yet. Hope to get into it soon. There is an
add-on, or it may be stand alone, called Curves for tight lingerie and
activewear.

> . . . but it would be nice to have some clues on what
> softwear other people are using to make patterns with. :-)

---
Kathleen Chevalier
northern Virginia, USA

Hi David,
I'm new here, so have been lurking.  I have used PatternMaker Software
since about 1999 and now work for the company.

PatternMaker is not as well known as other companies because we
operate differently. We are full CAD and allow independent designers
to use our software to produce and sell e-patterns. We have versions
for all levels of sewing from just entering your measurements all the
way up to Markers for factory clothing construction.

Contact me off list and I can give you more information.  You could
definitely handle your dry suit.

Kim
>
> The fabric costs about £50 pounds a meter it will take about 7 meters
> to make a dry suit, I am not trying to save money :-)
>
> but it would be nice to have some clues on what softwear other people
> are using to make patterns with. :-)
>
> I have two other suits that I will be using this year thanks.
>
> David
>

I use Pattern Master Boutique from www.wildginger.com - but don't use it extensively yet. Hope to get into it soon. There is an
add-on, or it may be stand alone, called Curves for tight lingerie and activewear.

> . . . but it would be nice to have some clues on what
> softwear other people are using to make patterns with. :-)

---
Kathleen Chevalier
northern Virginia, USA

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thanks for your kind offer
im in the uk though :-)
David


>From: JERRY BAER <gownmaker2001@...>
>Reply-To: PatternDesign@yahoogroups.com
>To: PatternDesign@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: Re: [PatternDesign] Re: dry suits for scuba diving
>Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2007 12:35:13 -0700 (PDT)
>
>I been using Wild Ginger Soft ware ever since they started offering them to
>the public.
>   I'm not into computers so i like easy programs and i find theirs the
>easy one . I is as easy as point click print. If you like to talk to me you
>can call me at 1-330-453-1055 and i can tel you about the system. I been
>sew for girls in pageants and regular females and males for  over 37 years
>now .
>   thank you
>   Jerry Baer
>
>KathleenSews <Kathleen.Sews@...> wrote:
>           I use Pattern Master Boutique from www.wildginger.com - but
>don't use it extensively yet. Hope to get into it soon. There is an
>add-on, or it may be stand alone, called Curves for tight lingerie and
>activewear.
>
> > . . . but it would be nice to have some clues on what
> > softwear other people are using to make patterns with. :-)
>
>---
>Kathleen Chevalier
>northern Virginia, USA
>
>
>
>
>
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Hi Lorraine
This is a fun non-professionals list to exchange ideas, definitely for
enthusiasts and hobbyists. Once you start leaning towards developing
and marketing concepts -a business- there's other resources that may
better suit your needs. The apparel industry has it's own software;
that doesn't mix and match (just like you can't use home patterns for
production). Besides, software won't "make" patterns for you anymore
than microsoft word will write a book for you :). Btw, I'm a pattern
maker in the apparel industry (27 years).

I recommend you start with Fashion-Incubator.com. It's all about how
to start a line. Yes it's my site but if there's another one better,
I've yet to see it. We also have a members-only forum to exchange
trade-privy information.

Good luck in your journey.

Kathleen
~Nurture people, not products~
http://www.fashion-incubator.com

--- In PatternDesign@yahoogroups.com, "rani ness" <adorehymn@...> wrote:
>
> So, it sounds like there is quite a bit of experience with pattern
software
> on this list.

Lutterloh is based on a system that has been around since sometime in the
1800's. Little patterns you enlarge to full size.

www.lutterloh.com

www.sewbeit.com supports it and sells updates and such.

I'm not impressed with it, but I know those who love it. If you want a set, try
eBay. They do have nice rulers.

> what is "Lutterloh"? i have never heard of it, and it was mentioned in
> one of my "welcome to the group" messages...
>
> Reni


---
Kathleen Chevalier
northern Virginia, USA

Reni,

I'm one of the renegades who know how to draft patterns by hand and
still use Lutterloh patterns anyway :)  I was looking for something to
save me time and energy, and with my quirky set of skills Lutterloh
patterns work. With three children, two teens and a preschooler, I
don't have time to draft patterns from 17 - 21 measurements and then
alter the draft to match the style I have in mind. I'm too slow, and I
don't use anything other than a tape measure, pencil, paper, and
design ruler to draft. By the time I have the thing drafted I'm too
tired to make it!

So I use Lutterloh patterns... I flip through my little books, draw up
a design I like, tweak it a little for style and fit, and I'm off. It
saves me about 3 days' drafting time. (Keep in mind the preschooler!)

For my vintage-loving teen, the Lutterloh patterns save me headache
and research time as well as drafting time. My 15 year old can browse
through the 1979 pattern book I have, go "ooooooh", and on a good day
I can have the item finished by the end of that evening. That's why I
like it.

I still have all my pattern drafting materials, and I still love the
process. Once I no longer have a preschooler running around I might
actually have the energy to do something "real". Until then, though,
I'll probably sew mostly with my Lutterloh sets. It's not real pattern
drafting, but it works pretty well for my unique situation.

Jenny

>
> what is "Lutterloh"? i have never heard of it, and it was mentioned
in one of my "welcome to the group" messages...
>
> Reni
>
>