James, if I can enquire, what do you mean here? What connotations do you give to 'self-absorbed' and 'full of it'? It may help to explain our absolute...
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jamesrovira
Aug 1, 2005 9:32 pm
We don't have an absolute disconnect that I can see, Will. We interpret one passage differently, but both believe the leap brings about an absolute change. I...
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oriondaughter
Sep 7, 2005 6:09 pm
Why are we here? What is the meaning of life? Does God exist? Get involved in the discussion. We are building a commercial-free global community here:...
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Dick Richardson
somerset_2
Sep 22, 2005 10:04 am
Hello, I am new on the list and not had the chance to read any back mails as yet, and hence come in vague of what is really on topic here. But as I understand...
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jamesrovira
Sep 22, 2005 2:00 pm
Dick -- welcome to the group. It's been very quiet. The people who defined philosophy as the love of wisdom also defined wisdom in terms of the very things...
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Dick Richardson
somerset_2
Sep 22, 2005 2:29 pm
Many thanks for the mail Jim, Well, if there is no action here then maybe I will push off. As for all the 'philosophers', and starting with Plato, Well :- )...
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jamesrovira
Sep 22, 2005 4:41 pm
Have you heard of Eric Voegelin? If you appreciate Plato you may find his recovery of Platonic reason, and application of it to political science, pretty...
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kathykundalini
Sep 23, 2005 12:56 am
"I have conscious experience of things, therefore I exist." Do you still subscribe to this viewpoint? I hope I am not being overly-critical...but it seems to...
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jamesrovira
Sep 23, 2005 9:42 am
I think Kant made this issue pretty clear: existence isn't a predicate. It's not an attribute that something has. Once you begin a sentence with the word I,...
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Bob M.
new_trail_bl...
Sep 24, 2005 12:54 am
"Most of us are no longer really human, we have been deprived of our humanity. We have been dehumanized by the processes of conditioning, upbringing and...
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Bob M.
new_trail_bl...
Sep 25, 2005 12:42 pm
"The greatest terror a child can have is that he is not loved, and rejection is the hell he fears. I think everyone in the world to a large or small extent has...
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Bob M.
new_trail_bl...
Sep 25, 2005 12:49 pm
"From the moment of birth, when the stone-age baby confronts the twentieth-century mother, the baby is subjected to these forces of violence, called love, as...
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jamesrovira
Sep 25, 2005 1:07 pm
heh...Laing was an interesting nutcase. Defining anything in purely negative terms is usually a mistake. Jim R....
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Bob M.
new_trail_bl...
Sep 25, 2005 1:41 pm
I find him to have been a rather deeply insightful, sensitive, warm, compassionate, and caring man. And surely one who didn't go through life wearing...
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jamesrovira
Sep 25, 2005 1:45 pm
Laing was different people at different times, and didn't have a very good reputation at the end of his career. That's not necessarily to his discredit, but...
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Bob M.
new_trail_bl...
Sep 25, 2005 2:24 pm
I think many men who marched to the beat of a different drummer down throughout history eventually came to a point of shipwreck of some sort. Yet those of us...
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jamesrovira
Sep 25, 2005 9:43 pm
And many were simply idiots, Bob, that taught us nothing. I think Laing managed to be both at different times. But I don't see your second paragraph as really...
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Logan Hillier
logofernando
Sep 25, 2005 10:11 pm
Hmmmm... cool. Well hello everyone. I am currently enjoying Fernando Pessoa, who I guess is a touch existentialist. I am not sure if I could describe myself...
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Bob M.
new_trail_bl...
Sep 26, 2005 1:05 am
I try not to be too quick to label anyone an idiot Jim, as it seems very often there's something of value that I can learn from nearly everyone. Although I do...
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jamesrovira
Sep 26, 2005 1:08 am
Cool websites...are you involved with the film site at the bottom, and is this a motion picture release in the UK? welcome to the list, Jim R...
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jamesrovira
Sep 26, 2005 1:14 am
Don't you think it's a bit contradictory to recoil at the idea of "labeling someone an idiot" yet describe the entire human race as "machine-like parents [who]...
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Bob M.
new_trail_bl...
Sep 26, 2005 3:19 am
Calling others idiots I find generally is disrespectful and likewise not within the bounds of love Jim. Certainly I've been guilty long and hard of this sort...
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Logan
logofernando
Sep 26, 2005 6:15 am
Its not a serious motion picture release, its just a little web fun. Seconds after those we cretaed this one as well: http://www.thelogos.co.uk/nukeflash.htm ...
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jamesrovira
Sep 26, 2005 2:55 pm
Personally, I'd rather be called a human idiot than an inhuman machine, Bob :). Idiocy usually isn't a permanent or global condition for most people. We're...
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Bob M.
new_trail_bl...
Sep 27, 2005 4:06 am
Are you saying here that you have not been reduced to machine-likeness Jim? And thereby you are in touch with your true human feelings, nature and full...
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jamesrovira
Sep 27, 2005 1:39 pm
Then you are a much harsher judge of humanity than I, Bob. I think most people exist somewhere between dust of the earth and/or the fog of self centeredness...
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Bob M.
new_trail_bl...
Sep 28, 2005 3:32 am
Hi Jim, Again I wouldn't say a harsher view, but rather a far more fearless and thorough one. Your view of humanity, while it may not be as insightful as mine,...
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Bob M.
new_trail_bl...
Sep 28, 2005 1:15 pm
http://uk.groups.yahoo.com/group/Soar_Like_An_Eagle/message/42 Bob M....
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jamesrovira
Sep 28, 2005 1:55 pm
Helen: thanks for the background. I think I'm glad I don't share it ... Bob: thanks for the response and for the link below. I've been reading quite a bit of...
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Bob M.
new_trail_bl...
Sep 28, 2005 4:26 pm
Surely knowledge of Kierkgaard can be of value, but the key I find is to live in his spirit Jim, as then alone one will grow in wisdom of the heart, which is a...
