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#89 From: The Community of YAHWEH <yahwehcommunity@...>
Date: Sun Mar 4, 2007 1:58 am
Subject: Re: Gap theory is false - (The creation of the Eath) - part 1 of 2 - REALLY???
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Shalom (Peace) to Everyone!
 
What Jahzrah is calling "Gap theory", actually it's what The Scriptures teach on The Creation of the Earth, as we see it now!
 
IF Genesis 1:2 would be how the Earth was Created in the Beginning (Genesis 1:1), WHY is it NOT written, "And YAHWEH said, Let there be waters covering the Earth", and/or "And YAHWEH said, Let there be darkness upon the deep"???
 
When were such waters, and darkness of Genesis 1:2 created, and put on the Earth???
 
Would it be not VERY STRANGE that YAHWEH gave any details of the Creation of the Earth, even grass, and herbs, and He forgot to say when He created waters, and darkness on the Earth???
 
The Scriptural fact is that YAHWEH did NOT Create The Earth in that way, as we find it in Genesis 1:2!
 
That was how the Earth BECAME, after something very dramatic occurred on the Earth that was Created in the Beginning (Genesis 1:1)!
 
WHY are there not many details of that previous time? Simply because it's something that is NOT our human business, just as there not many details of the Angelic life, for the same reason.
 
However, there are some indications that show something about that previous time, in Isayah Chapter 14, and in Yechetzqyah (Ezekiel) Chapter 28.
 
Let me correct the WRONG indications of Jahzrah on this doctrine.
 
There were NOT billions of years of animals suffering and dying before Genesis 1:2.
 
Actually, I believe that the vast majority of years between Genesis 1:1 and Genesis 1:2 were BEAUTIFUL TIMES in which Lucifer / Hillel was the "Keeper of Light", Perfect in all his/her way, following YAHWEH's Torah, and so all the other Malakim.
 
But there was a time before Genesis 1:2, when Lucifer / Hillel SINNED, rebelling against YAHWEH, and HIS Righteous Way, arriving to pretend to be LIKE THE MOST HIGH!
 
And step-by-step he/she became "Satan" (adversary) and "devil" (accuser), convincing one third of the Malakim to follow his evil, wrong way (but "right" from his/her point of view), so becoming demons.
 
When did all that occur? Surely it occurred BEFORE the Creation of Man, because just after man and woman were created, Satan went to deceive and tempt the woman to follow his way of disobbedience and rebellion, clearly showing to be ALREADY a rebellious child of YAHWEH. 
 
Genesis 1:31, saying that the whole creation made on the Six Days was "very beneficial", is clearly referring to what YAHWEH made from Genesis 1:3 ahead, otherwise when did Lucifer / Hillel become Satan the devil, and convinced one third of the Malakim, that became demons?
 
By reading Isayah Chapter 14, and Yechetzqyah (Ezekiel) Chapter 28, there are some details showing that occurred BEFORE the cretion of man.
 
And YAHSHUA MESSIYAH clearly said that the devil was A MURDERER FROM THE BEGINNING!
 
Yahchanan (John) 8:44, "You are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father you will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it".
 
Who did the devil murder from the beginning??? When was "from the beginning" that his/her murder occurred??? 
 
I don't know of any human being murdered from Satan from the beginning, unless we want to consider the deception of Eve as a "spiritual murder"...  
 
So that was something that occurred BEFORE the Creation of man, and it was the consequence, and the reason WHY the Earth was in such chaotic conditions, without form and void, and fully covered with waters, and in deep darkness (Genesis 1:2)!
 
Listen very carefully, there was no death in THIS world until sin was in THIS world (Romans 5:12; I Corinthians 15:21; etc.). In fact, death itself is "the wages of sin" (Romans 6:23).
 
Our future deliverance from sin and death has been purchased by the Death of YAHSHUA the MessiYah, Who is "the propitiation for our sins and ... also for the sins of THIS whole world" (Yahchanan / John 2:2).
 
But what about a PREVIOUS world, that existed before this human world was created, and then it was destroyed, through a Judgment of YAHWEH?
 
What if only mortal animals, like Dinosaurs and Mammoths, were killed during that time?
 
Remember the Words of YAHSHUA MESSIYAH in Yahchanan (John) 8:44 that Satan the devil was a murderer from the beginning!
 
The Verse 2 of Genesis 1 does NOT merely describes the initial aspect of the Creation as "without form and void"梩hat is, with neither structure nor inhabitants, like clay waiting to be formed, since the Scripture says also that darkness and waters were present on such "without form and voId" Earth, but there is NO indication that they were created, and put there to cover the Earth!
 
WHY NOT??? Because the Work of YAHWEH to MAKE or re-MAKE the surface of the Earth (that He CREATED in the Beginning in Genesis 1:1) begins from Genesis 1:3, with Genesis 1:2 surely NOT indicating the conditions of the Earth CREATED in the Beginning in Genesis 1:1!
 
The Hebrew word used for "CREATE" (to DO SOMETHING FROM NOTHING) in Genesis 1:1 is "Barah", that means to shape, to fashion, and it connotes a FINISHED WORK, and NOT something "without form and void", as we read in Genesis 1:2!
 
In Genesis 1:1 YAHWEH said that HE CREATED THE HEAVENS AND THE EARTH, and NOT "dark and void skies" and "clay waiting to be formed"!
 
UP next Part 2
 
In YAHSHUA's Name,
 
Carlo Tognoni
 
The Community of YAHWEH For The Disciples of YAHSHUA
 
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----- Original Message ----
From: Jahzrah Jahzrah <jahzrah@...>
To: Thetruecalendar@yahoogroups.com; thetruecommunity@yahoogroups.com; thetruesabbathsandnewmoons@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, February 27, 2007 9:31:28 PM
Subject: [TheTrueCommunity] Gap theory is false - (The creation of the Eath) - part 1 of 2

Peace,
 
Here is one angle of why the idea of a Re-created or remade Earth as a result of Satan and his angels destroying the first earth or bringing Jah's judgement upon it...It is also called the Gap theory.
 
Basically it proclaims that Between Genesis 1:1 and 1:2 there is a gap of a million years or more...
 
From a Believers point of view, If indeed the Scripture actually teaches the gap theory' however, then there might be some reason to try to accommodate it in our doctrine.
 
But the Scripture does not teach it!
 
If there really had been billions of years of animals suffering and dying before Genesis 1:2, why would Jah say nothing about it? The best they can offer in support of such a notion are some out-of-context quotes from Isaiah and Jeremiah, along with an private translation of Genesis 1:1, 2.
 
And why would Jah send such a devastating cataclysm at all? Satan's fall did not occur until after the creation week of Genesis 1, for at that time Jah had pronounced the whole creation "very good" (Genesis 1: 31).
 
At present, however, "the whole creation groaneth and travaileth in pain together" (Romans 8:22) because of the great curse pronounced by Jah on man's dominion (Genesis 3:17-19), as a result of sin.
 
 
This groaning creation has indeed experienced one global cataclysm namely, the worldwide Flood in the days of Noah. Most of the vast fossil graveyards in the earth's crust can best be explained as one of the results of the Flood.
 
 
This awesome spectacle of destruction and death was not part of Jah's "very good" creation.
 
 
Listen very carefully, there was no death in the world until sin was in the world (Romans 5:12; I Corinthians 15:21; etc.). In fact, death itself is "the wages of sin" (Romans 6:23).
 
 
Our future deliverance from sin and death has been purchased by the death of Jahshuwah the Messijah, who is "the propitiation for our sins and ... also for the sins of the whole world" (John 2:2).
 
 
But if "death reigned" not "from Adam to Moses," as the Scripture says (Romans 5:14), but had already reigned for billions of years before Adam between Genesis 1:1 and 1:2, then death is not the wages of sin but instead was part of Jah's creative purpose.
 
 
How then could the death of the Messijah put away sin? The gap theory thus undermines the very gospel of our salvation, as well as the holy character of Jah.
 
 
The fact is that no such gap exists between the first two verses of Genesis at all. The second verse merely describes the initial aspect of the creation as "without form and void"梩hat is, with neither structure nor inhabitants. It was like clay waiting to be formed.
 
 
The rest of the chapter tells how Jah produced a marvelous structure for His created universe, with multitudes of plant and animal inhabitants for the earth, all to be under the dominion of its human inhabitants created in the image of Jah. It was only then that Jah pronounced the creation "finished" (Genesis 2:1).
 
 
It is time for those who believe the Scriptures and what they say as opposed to what it doesn抰 say and in the goodness and wisdom of Jah abandon the gap theory once and for all (as well as the day-age theory, which is even worse) and simply believe what JAH has said.
 
The gap theory doesn抰 have Scriptural merit, and leads to a JAH-dishonoring doctrine. It does not work, either Scripturally or scientifically.
 
UP next part 2


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#90 From: The Community of YAHWEH <yahwehcommunity@...>
Date: Sun Mar 4, 2007 2:00 am
Subject: Re: Gap theory is false - (The creation of the EArth) - part 2 of 2 - REALLY???
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Shalom (Peace) to Everyone!
 
Yes, there a time period between Genesis 1:1 and 1:2!
 
How many years? YAHWEH knows it.
 
That is NOT trying to read between the lines of the Scriptures, but simply toany, but simply to read the lines or verses of the Scriptures!
 
In fact, in Genesis 1:1 it is written, "IN THE BEGINNING Elohim Created the Heavens and the Earth".
 
When was such "IN THE BEGINNING"??? Just about 6000 years ago, when man was created??? Or BEFORE that time???
 
The Scriptures indicate that the Malakim - the Morning Stars and the Sons of Elohim - were CREATED BEFORE that time, since they sang together and shouted for joy when YAHWEH CREATED the Earth (Iyyob / Job 38:4-7)!
 
By the way, VERY STRANGE to sing together and shout for joy if the Earth was only a rock "without form and void" and fully covered of water, and darkness!?!
 
Then, "IN THE BEGINNING" of Genesis 1:1 includes also the CREATION of the Malakim (IN THE HEAVENS), that surely occurred MORE THAN 6000 years ago!
 
So, surely we have a TIME PERIOD between Genesis 1:1, occurred MORE THAN 6000 years ago, and Genesis 1:2, occurred about 6000 years ago.
 
It doesn't matter how many years between the two.
 
GENESIS 1:1 - "IN THE BEGINNING" (MORE THAN 6000 years ago) YAHWEH Created the HEAVENS (that SURELY included the Malakim - the Morning Stars and the Sons of Elohim, but also the Galaxies, Stars, and Planets, because it would be VERY STRANGE that the Malakim would have been living and dwelling in DARK AND VOID HEAVENS) and the EARTH (that surely was A VERY BEAUTIFUL ALSO FOR THEM TO LIVE AND DWELL, otherwise the Morning Stars would NOT sing together for that, and the Sons of Elohim would NOT shout for joy for that!).
 
GENESIS 1:2 - Then, SOMETHING VERY DRAMATIC OCCURRED, that was NOT a human business, and it is NOT recorded, being a Malakim business - but the Scriptures seems to indicate that was Satan's rebellion, together with one third of the Malakim, that became demons, that caused such Chaotic conditions - the Earth BECAME without form and void, fully covered with water, and darkness - just as after a Universal Flood, similar to what occurred at the time of Noah.
 
GENESIS 1:3 AHEAD - About 6000 years ago YAHWEH Planned to MAKE or re-MAKE the surface of the Earth, and its enviroment, to fit It for vegetal, animal, and human life to Create on It!
 
Now Read Exodus 20:11.
 
 
         Exodus 20:11 - [11] For in six days YAHWEH made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is, and rested the seventh day: wherefore YAHWEH blessed the sabbath day, and hallowed it.
 
The Verb "to Make" here is the Hebrew "asah", meaning to Make (SOMETHING WITH AND/OR FROM SOMETHING ELSE), to accomplish, that is DIFFERENT from the Verb "to Create" used in Genesis 1:1, that is the Hebrew "barah", meaning to Create (SOMETHING FROM NOTHING), to shape, to fashion.
 
Then, the Six Days of the MAKING of the Heavens and the Earth clearly did NOT include Genesis 1:1 in which YAHWEH CREATED the Heavens and the Earth! 
 
Jahzrah asked such question: "If all of Jah抯 creation from Genesis 1:1-1:31 took only 6 days, then how can there be a GAP of millions of years between Gen. 1:1 and Gen. 1:2?"
 
The answer is quite simple: Genesis 1:1 is dealing with the entire Universe, when it was CREATED In The Beginning, while Genesis 1:2 is dealing only with the Earth, when YAHWEH Planned to Fit It to Create vegetal, animal, and human life on It.
 
Exodus 20:11 does not say "For in six days YAHWEH CREATED the heavens and earth!"
 
 
About the word "replenish", it can mean "fill again" or "refill", or just "fill". But, as a matter of Fact, the Scriptures show that Lucifer (Hillel) was in Eden, the Garden of YAHWEH, so that some of the Malakim lived, and dwelt on the Earth, BEFORE the Creation of Man. So that "refill" seems the appropriate meaning for "replenish".
 
About of the Hebrew verb "hayah", it can mean "to be", or "to become", or "to come to pass". Since the Hebrew verb "barah", in Genesis 1:1, means "to create, to shape, to fashion", connoting A FINISHED WORK, it is clear that the Earth, in Genesis 1:2, "became" or "came to pass" WITHOUT FORM AND VOID, and NOT "was" that chaotic way, fully covered with waters, and darkness!  
 
Yes, the Hebrew construction of Verse 2 is disjunctive, and is describing the result of something occurred previously, that surely was not the creation described in verse one, that was a finished creation (HEBREW "barah")!
 
YAHWEH was finished in Genesis 1:1 with the Creation of the ORIGINAL Earth!
 
Yes, YAHWEH Created Lights in the Heavens IN THE BEGINNING.
 
And when He said 慙et there be Light', in Genesis 1:3, it occurred ON THE EARTH, and NOT in the Heavens, and He saw It to be "beneficial".

 

Do you read of any word said, and work made in Genesis 1:2??? NO! Just a description of a CHAOTIC state of the Earth "without form and void", full of darkness, and covered with waters!

  

PERFECT state??? The Spirit of YAHWEH moved upon that formless and empty dark rock immersed under waters, but NOT a word of such work from YAHWEH at that time!
 
YAHWEH didn't make such formless and empty dark rock immersed under waters! That was the CHAOTIC condition that the Earth BECAME!
 
YAHWEH Created a VERY BEAUTIFUL EARTH, In The Beginning, at which time the Morning Stars (Malakim Gadol / Archangels) sang together, and the Sons of Elohim (Malakim / Angels) shouted for joy (Iyyob / Job 38:4-7)!
 
Please Read Carefully 2 Kepha (Peter) 3:3-7 -
3 Knowing this first, that there shall come in the last days scoffers, walking after their own lusts,
4 And saying, Where is the promise of his coming? for since the fathers fell asleep, all things continue as they were from the beginning of the creation.
5 For this they willingly are ignorant of, that by the word of God the Heavens were of old, and the Earth standing out of the water and in the water.
6 Whereby the world that then was, being overflowed with water, perished:
7 But the heavens and the earth, which are now, by the same word are kept in store, reserved unto fire against the day of judgment and perdition of ungodly men.
 
"The Heavens were of old, and the Earth standing out of the water and in the water" were those CREATED IN THE BEGINNING (Genesis 1:1).
 
"The world that then was, being overflowed with water, perished" was that living on the Earth BEFORE Genesis 1:2, and NOT that at the time of the Flood of Noah, when eight people were saved from the waters, in the Ark, and didn't perish!
 
"The Heavens and the Earth, which are now" are those MADE or re-MADE from Genesis 1:3 ahead, in Six Days, about 6000 years ago, where we are living now!
 
In YAHSHUA's Name,
 
Carlo Tognoni
 
The Community of YAHWEH For The Disciples of YAHSHUA
 
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----- Original Message ----
From: Jahzrah Jahzrah <jahzrah@...>
To: Thetruecalendar@yahoogroups.com; thetruecommunity@yahoogroups.com; thetruesabbathsandnewmoons@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, February 27, 2007 9:37:22 PM
Subject: [TheTrueCommunity] Gap theory is false - (The creation of the EArth) - part 2 of 2

Peace,
 
 
Is there a time period between Genesis 1:1 and 1:2? Many people believe there is卼hey even believe it抯 millions of years between these 2 verse匰ound confusing? To some it is very clear卻o let us examine the Scriptures to see what JAH is saying about His Creation.
 
 
How many millions of years are involved in the 慻ap theory, 2, 3 million? Hundreds of thousands of years maybe?
 
 
First of all, as Student of the Messijah, aren抰 we supposed to read the lines or verses of Scripture? Why are people trying to read between the lines?
 
 
Please dear student; do not look for a GAP or for anything else between two verses. In reading the Scriptures, Jah wants us to read the verses, not between the verses.
 
 
We need to read the lines, not between the lines!
 
 
Your heart will never be blessed by reading the gap between any Scriptures, like for example, Hebrews 13:5 and Hebrews 13:6. But if you read Hebrews 13:5 and then continue on to read Hebrews 13:6 and then if you believe those verses (wonderful promises!), your heart will be greatly encouraged!
 

We must read Genesis 1:1 and then read Genesis 1:2. Do not fall into the deception of attempting to read between these verses, because there is nothing there!
 
 
Bear this fact in mind dear reader:
 
 
         The person who reads between the verses can make the Scriptures say anything he wants. However, the person who reads only the verses is better able to see what Jah has said. Read Jah抯 Word, not the GAPS!
 
 
So back to the million year, I mean dollar question, Is there really a GAP of millions of years between Genesis 1:1 and Genesis 1:2?
 
Read Exodus 20:11.
 
 
         Exodus 20:11 - [11] For in six days JAH made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is, and rested the seventh day: wherefore JAH blessed the sabbath day, and hallowed it.
 
 
How long did that verse say it took JAH to make the heavens and the earth and the sea and everything that is in the heavens, the earth and the sea?
 
 
         "For in six days JAH made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is,
 
 
Was the beginning of the creation of the heavens and the earth in Genesis 1:1 included in this six-day period? I would say yes, others may say no. Jah said He made the heavens and the Earth in the Sabbath command and in Genesis 1:1 it states the beginning of the creation being the heaven and the earth.
 
 
         "In the beginning Jah created the heaven and the earth."
 
 
If all of Jah抯 creation from Genesis 1:1-1:31 took only 6 days, then how can there be a GAP of millions of years between Gen. 1:1 and Gen. 1:2?
 
 
Also, Exodus 20:11 does not say "For in six days JAH RE-MADE the heavens and earth!"
 
 
About the word "replenish"
 
 
         Genesis 1:28 says, "Be fruitful, and multiply and replenish the earth."
 
 
The word "replenish" does not mean "to fill again" or "to refill," but it simply means, "to fill." This is an old English word to mean 'fill'...however just like the word 'replete' (to fill) the word 'replenish' doesn't mean fill again. Could the translators have used the word 'plenish'?
 
 
In 1611 when the King James Bible was published, the word "replenish" meant "to fill." So JAH was telling Adam and Eve to fill the earth! It had never before been filled with people, and it was Jah抯 will that the earth should be filled up with people.
 
 
But as well let抯 take a look at the Hebrew word for 揜eplenish in Genesis 1:28
 
 
The word for 搑eplenish in the Hebrew is male' {maw-lay'} or mala and it simply means 搕o fill攨or 憈o be full拝not to Refill.
 
 
Many who support the Gap Theory say that in Genesis 1:28, Jah told Adam to "reFILL" the earth. They claim that this meant that Adam was to refill the world that had become empty and void of life due to some form of prior judgment from Jah.
 
 
But this argument is in error. For the Hebrew word "male" which was translated "replenish" in 1611 does not mean "to fill again". In 1611 the word replenish simply meant "to fill" (as in the First time). Many of the words we use today once had other meanings.
 
 
Jah wanted the earth to be FILLED with life, and this would include plants, animals and people!
 
 
Was the earth really unfilled in Genesis 1:2? Was it filled with plant life yet? Was it filled with rays of light at this point? Was it filled with plants and trees? Was it filled with birds and fish and land animals? Were the heavens filled with planets and stars? Was the earth filled with men?
 
 
The earth was quite unfilled! But as you read Genesis 1 you see that JAH did a wonderful job of filling His earth with life! See Psalm 24:1.


Jah抯 purpose was to prepare the earth for man! Read Isaiah 45:18. For what purpose did JAH create the earth? " To Be Inhabited."
 
 
Jah wanted to fill the earth with men (see Gen. 1:28). Jah wanted to fill the earth with living things! If Jah wanted to have an unfilled and uninhabited earth, then He would have stopped after Genesis 1:1. But Jah formed the earth and made it and established it and created it TO BE INHABITED! Jah spent the 6 days of creation getting the earth ready for men!
 
 
Another point of consideration is this
 
 
The Problem of the Word "BECAME":
 
 
Those who believe in the GAP want to re-translate Genesis 1:2 so that it will read this way:
 
 
"And the earth BECAME without form and void."
 
 
But the Scripture says, "And the earth was without form and void."
 
(Note: Most translations of Genesis 1:2 have "was" and not "became."
 
 
Genesis 1:2 says that the earth WAS this way, it did not become this way. What was the earth like when Jah first created it? It was without form and void! It had no form or shape卛t was matter without design.
 
 
The word "was" is translated from the Hebrew word "haythah".
 
 
Some claim that "haythah" means "became", as in the "earth became without form and void", but this is not correct. In order for "haythah" to be translated as "became" it must be preceded by a preposition meaning "to".
 
 
The Hebrew construction of verse two is disjunctive and is describing the result of the creation described in verse one. It is not describing the result of any judgment.
 
 
Why was it without form and void? Because that is how Jah made it! He made this earth material to continue His mighty creation and formation of this place we call the Earth
 
 
Jah was not finished in Genesis 1:1 with the earth yet! It only just began, which is what we clearly see if we don抰 read between the lines匢t was still early on in DAY one of creation! Jah made His place of Habitation called Heaven which is a Spiritual Realm for Spiritual Beings.
 
 
If the earth was originally WITHOUT FORM and VOID, then what does this mean? Why would Jah create the earth this way? What do these words mean?


"Without form" simply means UNFORMED or WITHOUT SHAPE! The earth was UNFORMED, it had NO SHAPE OR STRUCTURE OR ORDER. It was just MATTER厖.LIKE CLAY.
 
 
It needed to be formed and shaped and prepared for man! It was also "void" which means devoid of life, empty or UNFILLED. The earth at this point was very empty (no plants, no animals, no people, etc.). The original earth was not ruined and spoiled but it was UNFORMED and UNFILLED!!
 
 
Until this point THERE WAS DARKNESS covering the EARTH MATERIAL that was IMMERSED in WATER. In other words DARKNESS was everywhere匛ven in Heaven. Why? Jah never made light yet? Some people want to say he made lights in the heavens, but it doesn抰 say that, and then why say 憀et there be light?
 
 
After making His Spiritual Heaven, He then made the Physical material called 揈ARTH which people call matter but everything physical upon this dry land and including the waters is called 揈arth.
 
 
This Earth material is a combination of Water and Material. This why there was no form, shape or actual body when Jah first made the earth, He first made the material called 揈arth to later form a sphere when He brought the waters together and brought forth the Earth Material from the Waters. And Jah divided the Waters from the Dry Land. Yet they Unite as the Earth.
 
 
Soil, Jewels, Wood, plants, metals, humans, animals, stone and water are all Earth.
 
 
Genesis 1:2 simply describes an earth at the early stages of creation before any formation or order was originated for it, but it was earth that had never been yet been cursed. It was UN-CURSED, but it was also UNFINISHED. In order for it to be cursed it had to be first be blessed.and that wasn抰 until the end of the Sixth day when Jah said everything is VERY GOOD.
 
 
Genesis 1:2 is Jah抯 perfect description of the early earth on the first day of creation! What was the earth like at that time? It was LIKE HE SAID, 憌ithout form and void! 


 In other words, it was UNFINISHED!
 

There were two things that Jah needed to do to finish his work of creation--He needed to FORM the earth and FILL the earth!
 

The expression "unformed and unfilled" does not mean that the earth was imperfect at all, it simply means without shape or form. Even in Genesis 1:2 the earth was PERFECT in this unformed state in the sense that it was everything that Jah intended it to be at that point in time! Jah does everything perfectly! He makes no mistakes! The earth was perfectly created, but it was not yet finished. It was not yet complete.
 

But when you come to the end of the creation week, Jah looks at the earth, which He had formed and filled and completed, and He says "Very Good" (GENESIS 1:31).
 
 
        Isaiah 45:18 tells us that Jah "formed the earth."
 
 
Genesis 2:7 tells us that Jah "formed man of the dust of the ground."
 
 
Think of a master potter. He starts with an unformed and unfinished lump of clay! It doesn抰 look very good! But there is nothing evil about an unfinished lump of clay! Just give the potter time to do his work! He will begin to form it and shape it and prepare it in just the right way!
 

Jah is the Master Artist! He formed the earth and perfectly prepared it for life. He has given our earth the touch of the Master抯 Hand! If you ever doubt this, just take a look outside at the world He has made! Jah抯 artistry and wisdom and masterful design are seen everywhere.
 
 
The Spirit of Jah, or the Breath of Life, is what is given to man to live....we are Earthlings with the Spirit of Jah...the soul is not another you, your soul is basically your body, and I say this because before man had the breath of life he was a dead soul, a soul without the breath of life, and when JAH breathed into man, and connected him to his environment, then man became a LIVING SOUL....
 
 
        Genesis 2:7 - [7] And JAH Almighty formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul.
 
 
At any rate, this newly made earth matter (material) was submerged in the DARK WATERS OF THE DEEP. We know this because it is from the dark waters that this earth material emerged forth from.
 
 
Now one thing to notice is that water is  partially earth material, in other words, we see that dark waters are present at the beginning.  Water is partially made up of earthly material and a Spiritual substance as well...H-2-O or water, is 2 parts spiritual (2 parts oxygen) and 1 part earthly (hydrogen).. ...this is why water is symbolically associated with the Spirit of Jah...
 
 
Bear in mind that the earth was without form for two days because Jah did not start to shape it, dress it and put life on it until the third day of creation and afterwards. And on this third day Jah separated the Earth material from the water and brought forth the land out of the water of which is also in the water.
 
 
        Genesis 1:9, 13 - [9] And Jah said, Let the waters under the heaven be gathered together unto one place, and let the dry land appear: and it was so厖厖 [13] And the evening and the morning were the third day.
 
 
        2 Peter 3:5 - [5] For this they willingly are ignorant of, that by the word of JAH the heavens were of old, and the earth standing out of the water and in the water:
 
 
What is vital to note is that darkness was upon the face of the deep first!! Before the first day of creation darkness was everywhere because Jah never began to create LIGHT as of yet厖.
 
 
        Genesis 1:2 -卆nd darkness was upon the face of the deep.
 
 
Then Jah COMMANDED THE LIGHT TO SHINE FROM THE DARKNESS AND said "LET THERE BE LIGHT"....
 
 
When Jah said let there be light, He was commanding the Light to shine forth from the Darkness.... just like the Scriptures say.
 
 
        Genesis 1:3-4 - [2] And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of Jah moved upon the face of the waters. [3] And Jah said, Let there be light: and there was light. [4] And Jah saw the light, that it was good: and Jah divided the light from the darkness.
 
 
        2 Corinthians 4:6 - [6] For Jah, who commanded the light to shine out of darkness, hath shined in our hearts, to give the light of the knowledge of the glory of Jah in the face of Jahoshuwah the Messijah.
 
 
I find the above Scriptures to be in harmony and I believe JAH. If there was darkness there was darkness, when He said let there be light there was light...
 
 
 
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#91 From: Jahzrah Jahzrah <jahzrah@...>
Date: Sun Mar 4, 2007 4:17 pm
Subject: Re: [TheTrueSabbathsAndNewMoons] Gap theory is false - (The creation of the EArth) - part 2 of 2 - REALLY???
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Grace and Peace to all,
 
 
Thanks for responding to the 慻ap theory post Carlo. I have read your response thoroughly and can only say what I said in my initial post, which was, if anyone reads between Genesis 1:1 and 1:2 then they can make it say whatever they wish
 
 
Have you noticed that everything that is clearly written about this in the Scriptures you palm off as 憊ery strange拝or have questions of doubt? Even though you and I are finding out how we disagree on many more things that we would have imagined, I find your explanation of this theory in particular to be highly unscriptural and unfruitful.
 
 
I feel bad to have to say this but, It抯 time to let that false doctrine go Carlo. It has planted a bad seed in your mind and has forced you to distort, twist and be dishonest with JAH扴 WORDS. I抦 a bit disappointed that many sincere people have adopted this erroneous doctrine but this is the world that we live in
 
 
As I already said, I find your rebuttal to be very unscriptural and contrary to the Most High抯 testimony and have witnessed you forwarding your own idea into the Scriptures to say things it's clearly not saying, but I will not comment any more on your response in your forums and choose to let peace reign
 
 
For anyone who wishes to catch up with what we were saying about this doctrine please read the messages at the following links
 
 
Part 1 False Gap theory
 
 
Part 2 False Gap theory
 
 
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Shalom (Peace) to Everyone!
 
Yes, there a time period between Genesis 1:1 and 1:2!
 
How many years? YAHWEH knows it.
 
That is NOT trying to read between the lines of the Scriptures, but simply toany, but simply to read the lines or verses of the Scriptures!
 
In fact, in Genesis 1:1 it is written, "IN THE BEGINNING Elohim Created the Heavens and the Earth".
 
When was such "IN THE BEGINNING"??? Just about 6000 years ago, when man was created??? Or BEFORE that time???
 
The Scriptures indicate that the Malakim - the Morning Stars and the Sons of Elohim - were CREATED BEFORE that time, since they sang together and shouted for joy when YAHWEH CREATED the Earth (Iyyob / Job 38:4-7)!
 
By the way, VERY STRANGE to sing together and shout for joy if the Earth was only a rock "without form and void" and fully covered of water, and darkness!?!
 
Then, "IN THE BEGINNING" of Genesis 1:1 includes also the CREATION of the Malakim (IN THE HEAVENS), that surely occurred MORE THAN 6000 years ago!
 
So, surely we have a TIME PERIOD between Genesis 1:1, occurred MORE THAN 6000 years ago, and Genesis 1:2, occurred about 6000 years ago.
 
It doesn't matter how many years between the two.
 
GENESIS 1:1 - "IN THE BEGINNING" (MORE THAN 6000 years ago) YAHWEH Created the HEAVENS (that SURELY included the Malakim - the Morning Stars and the Sons of Elohim, but also the Galaxies, Stars, and Planets, because it would be VERY STRANGE that the Malakim would have been living and dwelling in DARK AND VOID HEAVENS) and the EARTH (that surely was A VERY BEAUTIFUL ALSO FOR THEM TO LIVE AND DWELL, otherwise the Morning Stars would NOT sing together for that, and the Sons of Elohim would NOT shout for joy for that!).
 
GENESIS 1:2 - Then, SOMETHING VERY DRAMATIC OCCURRED, that was NOT a human business, and it is NOT recorded, being a Malakim business - but the Scriptures seems to indicate that was Satan's rebellion, together with one third of the Malakim, that became demons, that caused such Chaotic conditions - the Earth BECAME without form and void, fully covered with water, and darkness - just as after a Universal Flood, similar to what occurred at the time of Noah.
 
GENESIS 1:3 AHEAD - About 6000 years ago YAHWEH Planned to MAKE or re-MAKE the surface of the Earth, and its enviroment, to fit It for vegetal, animal, and human life to Create on It!
 
Now Read Exodus 20:11.
 
 
         Exodus 20:11 - [11] For in six days YAHWEH made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is, and rested the seventh day: wherefore YAHWEH blessed the sabbath day, and hallowed it.
 
The Verb "to Make" here is the Hebrew "asah", meaning to Make (SOMETHING WITH AND/OR FROM SOMETHING ELSE), to accomplish, that is DIFFERENT from the Verb "to Create" used in Genesis 1:1, that is the Hebrew "barah", meaning to Create (SOMETHING FROM NOTHING), to shape, to fashion.
 
Then, the Six Days of the MAKING of the Heavens and the Earth clearly did NOT include Genesis 1:1 in which YAHWEH CREATED the Heavens and the Earth! 
 
Jahzrah asked such question: "If all of Jah抯 creation from Genesis 1:1-1:31 took only 6 days, then how can there be a GAP of millions of years between Gen. 1:1 and Gen. 1:2?"
 
The answer is quite simple: Genesis 1:1 is dealing with the entire Universe, when it was CREATED In The Beginning, while Genesis 1:2 is dealing only with the Earth, when YAHWEH Planned to Fit It to Create vegetal, animal, and human life on It.
 
Exodus 20:11 does not say "For in six days YAHWEH CREATED the heavens and earth!"
 
 
About the word "replenish", it can mean "fill again" or "refill", or just "fill". But, as a matter of Fact, the Scriptures show that Lucifer (Hillel) was in Eden, the Garden of YAHWEH, so that some of the Malakim lived, and dwelt on the Earth, BEFORE the Creation of Man. So that "refill" seems the appropriate meaning for "replenish".
 
About of the Hebrew verb "hayah", it can mean "to be", or "to become", or "to come to pass". Since the Hebrew verb "barah", in Genesis 1:1, means "to create, to shape, to fashion", connoting A FINISHED WORK, it is clear that the Earth, in Genesis 1:2, "became" or "came to pass" WITHOUT FORM AND VOID, and NOT "was" that chaotic way, fully covered with waters, and darkness!  
 
Yes, the Hebrew construction of Verse 2 is disjunctive, and is describing the result of something occurred previously, that surely was not the creation described in verse one, that was a finished creation (HEBREW "barah")!
 
YAHWEH was finished in Genesis 1:1 with the Creation of the ORIGINAL Earth!
 
Yes, YAHWEH Created Lights in the Heavens IN THE BEGINNING.
 
And when He said 慙et there be Light', in Genesis 1:3, it occurred ON THE EARTH, and NOT in the Heavens, and He saw It to be "beneficial".
 
Do you read of any word said, and work made in Genesis 1:2??? NO! Just a description of a CHAOTIC state of the Earth "without form and void", full of darkness, and covered with waters!
  
PERFECT state??? The Spirit of YAHWEH moved upon that formless and empty dark rock immersed under waters, but NOT a word of such work from YAHWEH at that time!
 
YAHWEH didn't make such formless and empty dark rock immersed under waters! That was the CHAOTIC condition that the Earth BECAME!
 
YAHWEH Created a VERY BEAUTIFUL EARTH, In The Beginning, at which time the Morning Stars (Malakim Gadol / Archangels) sang together, and the Sons of Elohim (Malakim / Angels) shouted for joy (Iyyob / Job 38:4-7)!
 
Please Read Carefully 2 Kepha (Peter) 3:3-7 -
3 Knowing this first, that there shall come in the last days scoffers, walking after their own lusts,
4 And saying, Where is the promise of his coming? for since the fathers fell asleep, all things continue as they were from the beginning of the creation.
5 For this they willingly are ignorant of, that by the word of God the Heavens were of old, and the Earth standing out of the water and in the water.
6 Whereby the world that then was, being overflowed with water, perished:
7 But the heavens and the earth, which are now, by the same word are kept in store, reserved unto fire against the day of judgment and perdition of ungodly men.
 
"The Heavens were of old, and the Earth standing out of the water and in the water" were those CREATED IN THE BEGINNING (Genesis 1:1).
 
"The world that then was, being overflowed with water, perished" was that living on the Earth BEFORE Genesis 1:2, and NOT that at the time of the Flood of Noah, when eight people were saved from the waters, in the Ark, and didn't perish!
 
"The Heavens and the Earth, which are now" are those MADE or re-MADE from Genesis 1:3 ahead, in Six Days, about 6000 years ago, where we are living now!
 
In YAHSHUA's Name,
 
Carlo Tognoni
 
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Subject: [TheTrueSabbathsAndNewMoons] Gap theory is false - (The creation of the EArth) - part 2 of 2

Peace,
 
 
Is there a time period between Genesis 1:1 and 1:2? Many people believe there is卼hey even believe it抯 millions of years between these 2 verse匰ound confusing? To some it is very clear卻o let us examine the Scriptures to see what JAH is saying about His Creation.
 
 
How many millions of years are involved in the 慻ap theory, 2, 3 million? Hundreds of thousands of years maybe?
 
 
First of all, as Student of the Messijah, aren抰 we supposed to read the lines or verses of Scripture? Why are people trying to read between the lines?
 
 
Please dear student; do not look for a GAP or for anything else between two verses. In reading the Scriptures, Jah wants us to read the verses, not between the verses.
 
 
We need to read the lines, not between the lines!
 
 
Your heart will never be blessed by reading the gap between any Scriptures, like for example, Hebrews 13:5 and Hebrews 13:6. But if you read Hebrews 13:5 and then continue on to read Hebrews 13:6 and then if you believe those verses (wonderful promises!), your heart will be greatly encouraged!
 

We must read Genesis 1:1 and then read Genesis 1:2. Do not fall into the deception of attempting to read between these verses, because there is nothing there!
 
 
Bear this fact in mind dear reader:
 
 
         The person who reads between the verses can make the Scriptures say anything he wants. However, the person who reads only the verses is better able to see what Jah has said. Read Jah抯 Word, not the GAPS!
 
 
So back to the million year, I mean dollar question, Is there really a GAP of millions of years between Genesis 1:1 and Genesis 1:2?
 
Read Exodus 20:11.
 
 
         Exodus 20:11 - [11] For in six days JAH made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is, and rested the seventh day: wherefore JAH blessed the sabbath day, and hallowed it.
 
 
How long did that verse say it took JAH to make the heavens and the earth and the sea and everything that is in the heavens, the earth and the sea?
 
 
         "For in six days JAH made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is,
 
 
Was the beginning of the creation of the heavens and the earth in Genesis 1:1 included in this six-day period? I would say yes, others may say no. Jah said He made the heavens and the Earth in the Sabbath command and in Genesis 1:1 it states the beginning of the creation being the heaven and the earth.
 
 
         "In the beginning Jah created the heaven and the earth."
 
 
If all of Jah抯 creation from Genesis 1:1-1:31 took only 6 days, then how can there be a GAP of millions of years between Gen. 1:1 and Gen. 1:2?
 
 
Also, Exodus 20:11 does not say "For in six days JAH RE-MADE the heavens and earth!"
 
 
About the word "replenish"
 
 
         Genesis 1:28 says, "Be fruitful, and multiply and replenish the earth."
 
 
The word "replenish" does not mean "to fill again" or "to refill," but it simply means, "to fill." This is an old English word to mean 'fill'...however just like the word 'replete' (to fill) the word 'replenish' doesn't mean fill again. Could the translators have used the word 'plenish'?
 
 
In 1611 when the King James Bible was published, the word "replenish" meant "to fill." So JAH was telling Adam and Eve to fill the earth! It had never before been filled with people, and it was Jah抯 will that the earth should be filled up with people.
 
 
But as well let抯 take a look at the Hebrew word for 揜eplenish in Genesis 1:28
 
 
The word for 搑eplenish in the Hebrew is male' {maw-lay'} or mala and it simply means 搕o fill攨or 憈o be full拝not to Refill.
 
 
Many who support the Gap Theory say that in Genesis 1:28, Jah told Adam to "reFILL" the earth. They claim that this meant that Adam was to refill the world that had become empty and void of life due to some form of prior judgment from Jah.
 
 
But this argument is in error. For the Hebrew word "male" which was translated "replenish" in 1611 does not mean "to fill again". In 1611 the word replenish simply meant "to fill" (as in the First time). Many of the words we use today once had other meanings.
 
 
Jah wanted the earth to be FILLED with life, and this would include plants, animals and people!
 
 
Was the earth really unfilled in Genesis 1:2? Was it filled with plant life yet? Was it filled with rays of light at this point? Was it filled with plants and trees? Was it filled with birds and fish and land animals? Were the heavens filled with planets and stars? Was the earth filled with men?
 
 
The earth was quite unfilled! But as you read Genesis 1 you see that JAH did a wonderful job of filling His earth with life! See Psalm 24:1.


Jah抯 purpose was to prepare the earth for man! Read Isaiah 45:18. For what purpose did JAH create the earth? " To Be Inhabited."
 
 
Jah wanted to fill the earth with men (see Gen. 1:28). Jah wanted to fill the earth with living things! If Jah wanted to have an unfilled and uninhabited earth, then He would have stopped after Genesis 1:1. But Jah formed the earth and made it and established it and created it TO BE INHABITED! Jah spent the 6 days of creation getting the earth ready for men!
 
 
Another point of consideration is this
 
 
The Problem of the Word "BECAME":
 
 
Those who believe in the GAP want to re-translate Genesis 1:2 so that it will read this way:
 
 
"And the earth BECAME without form and void."
 
 
But the Scripture says, "And the earth was without form and void."
 
(Note: Most translations of Genesis 1:2 have "was" and not "became."
 
 
Genesis 1:2 says that the earth WAS this way, it did not become this way. What was the earth like when Jah first created it? It was without form and void! It had no form or shape卛t was matter without design.
 
 
The word "was" is translated from the Hebrew word "haythah".
 
 
Some claim that "haythah" means "became", as in the "earth became without form and void", but this is not correct. In order for "haythah" to be translated as "became" it must be preceded by a preposition meaning "to".
 
 
The Hebrew construction of verse two is disjunctive and is describing the result of the creation described in verse one. It is not describing the result of any judgment.
 
 
Why was it without form and void? Because that is how Jah made it! He made this earth material to continue His mighty creation and formation of this place we call the Earth
 
 
Jah was not finished in Genesis 1:1 with the earth yet! It only just began, which is what we clearly see if we don抰 read between the lines匢t was still early on in DAY one of creation! Jah made His place of Habitation called Heaven which is a Spiritual Realm for Spiritual Beings.
 
 
If the earth was originally WITHOUT FORM and VOID, then what does this mean? Why would Jah create the earth this way? What do these words mean?


"Without form" simply means UNFORMED or WITHOUT SHAPE! The earth was UNFORMED, it had NO SHAPE OR STRUCTURE OR ORDER. It was just MATTER厖.LIKE CLAY.
 
 
It needed to be formed and shaped and prepared for man! It was also "void" which means devoid of life, empty or UNFILLED. The earth at this point was very empty (no plants, no animals, no people, etc.). The original earth was not ruined and spoiled but it was UNFORMED and UNFILLED!!
 
 
Until this point THERE WAS DARKNESS covering the EARTH MATERIAL that was IMMERSED in WATER. In other words DARKNESS was everywhere匛ven in Heaven. Why? Jah never made light yet? Some people want to say he made lights in the heavens, but it doesn抰 say that, and then why say 憀et there be light?
 
 
After making His Spiritual Heaven, He then made the Physical material called 揈ARTH which people call matter but everything physical upon this dry land and including the waters is called 揈arth.
 
 
This Earth material is a combination of Water and Material. This why there was no form, shape or actual body when Jah first made the earth, He first made the material called 揈arth to later form a sphere when He brought the waters together and brought forth the Earth Material from the Waters. And Jah divided the Waters from the Dry Land. Yet they Unite as the Earth.
 
 
Soil, Jewels, Wood, plants, metals, humans, animals, stone and water are all Earth.
 
 
Genesis 1:2 simply describes an earth at the early stages of creation before any formation or order was originated for it, but it was earth that had never been yet been cursed. It was UN-CURSED, but it was also UNFINISHED. In order for it to be cursed it had to be first be blessed.and that wasn抰 until the end of the Sixth day when Jah said everything is VERY GOOD.
 
 
Genesis 1:2 is Jah抯 perfect description of the early earth on the first day of creation! What was the earth like at that time? It was LIKE HE SAID, 憌ithout form and void! 


 In other words, it was UNFINISHED!
 

There were two things that Jah needed to do to finish his work of creation--He needed to FORM the earth and FILL the earth!
 

The expression "unformed and unfilled" does not mean that the earth was imperfect at all, it simply means without shape or form. Even in Genesis 1:2 the earth was PERFECT in this unformed state in the sense that it was everything that Jah intended it to be at that point in time! Jah does everything perfectly! He makes no mistakes! The earth was perfectly created, but it was not yet finished. It was not yet complete.
 

But when you come to the end of the creation week, Jah looks at the earth, which He had formed and filled and completed, and He says "Very Good" (GENESIS 1:31).
 
 
        Isaiah 45:18 tells us that Jah "formed the earth."
 
 
Genesis 2:7 tells us that Jah "formed man of the dust of the ground."
 
 
Think of a master potter. He starts with an unformed and unfinished lump of clay! It doesn抰 look very good! But there is nothing evil about an unfinished lump of clay! Just give the potter time to do his work! He will begin to form it and shape it and prepare it in just the right way!
 

Jah is the Master Artist! He formed the earth and perfectly prepared it for life. He has given our earth the touch of the Master抯 Hand! If you ever doubt this, just take a look outside at the world He has made! Jah抯 artistry and wisdom and masterful design are seen everywhere.
 
 
The Spirit of Jah, or the Breath of Life, is what is given to man to live....we are Earthlings with the Spirit of Jah...the soul is not another you, your soul is basically your body, and I say this because before man had the breath of life he was a dead soul, a soul without the breath of life, and when JAH breathed into man, and connected him to his environment, then man became a LIVING SOUL....
 
 
        Genesis 2:7 - [7] And JAH Almighty formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul.
 
 
At any rate, this newly made earth matter (material) was submerged in the DARK WATERS OF THE DEEP. We know this because it is from the dark waters that this earth material emerged forth from.
 
 
Now one thing to notice is that water is  partially earth material, in other words, we see that dark waters are present at the beginning.  Water is partially made up of earthly material and a Spiritual substance as well...H-2-O or water, is 2 parts spiritual (2 parts oxygen) and 1 part earthly (hydrogen).. ...this is why water is symbolically associated with the Spirit of Jah...
 
 
Bear in mind that the earth was without form for two days because Jah did not start to shape it, dress it and put life on it until the third day of creation and afterwards. And on this third day Jah separated the Earth material from the water and brought forth the land out of the water of which is also in the water.
 
 
        Genesis 1:9, 13 - [9] And Jah said, Let the waters under the heaven be gathered together unto one place, and let the dry land appear: and it was so厖厖 [13] And the evening and the morning were the third day.
 
 
        2 Peter 3:5 - [5] For this they willingly are ignorant of, that by the word of JAH the heavens were of old, and the earth standing out of the water and in the water:
 
 
What is vital to note is that darkness was upon the face of the deep first!! Before the first day of creation darkness was everywhere because Jah never began to create LIGHT as of yet厖.
 
 
        Genesis 1:2 -卆nd darkness was upon the face of the deep.
 
 
Then Jah COMMANDED THE LIGHT TO SHINE FROM THE DARKNESS AND said "LET THERE BE LIGHT"....
 
 
When Jah said let there be light, He was commanding the Light to shine forth from the Darkness.... just like the Scriptures say.
 
 
        Genesis 1:3-4 - [2] And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of Jah moved upon the face of the waters. [3] And Jah said, Let there be light: and there was light. [4] And Jah saw the light, that it was good: and Jah divided the light from the darkness.
 
 
        2 Corinthians 4:6 - [6] For Jah, who commanded the light to shine out of darkness, hath shined in our hearts, to give the light of the knowledge of the glory of Jah in the face of Jahoshuwah the Messijah.
 
 
I find the above Scriptures to be in harmony and I believe JAH. If there was darkness there was darkness, when He said let there be light there was light...
 
 
 
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#92 From: The Community of YAHWEH <yahwehcommunity@...>
Date: Sun Mar 4, 2007 8:35 pm
Subject: Re: Re: [TheTrueSabbathsAndNewMoons] Gap theory is false - (The creation of the EArth) - part 2 of 2 - REALLY???
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Jahzrah,
 
Yes, it's useless continuing to PROVE you that what occurred BEFORE The Creation of Man was NOT Human business, but it was Malakim business, and that is the reason why there are NOT all the details in The Scriptures about that, but enough indications to PROVE that there was a time period between Genesis 1:1 and Genesis 1:2.
 
In fact, it's very clear that the Spiritual Beings (Malakim, Angels, Morning Stars, Sons of Elohim) were Created In the Beginning, "IN THE HEAVENS" of Genesis 1:1, LONG BEFORE the Creation of Man, since they sang together, and shouted for joy at the Creation of the Earth (Iyyob / Job 38:4-7). And that PROVES a time period between Genesis 1:1 and Genesis 1:2.
 
And, INSTEAD, you claimed that the Malakim (Angels) were created, together with Dark Heavens and Formelss, Void, and Dark Earth, in the "12 hours" of Darkness BEFORE the First Day, that you believe were included "IN THE BEGINNING", when, in reality, "DAY" and "NIGHT" were made from Genesis 1:3 ahead!
 
It's very clear that Lucifer, the Anointed Cherub (Malak Gadol), was ALREADY become Satan the devil at the time the Man was Created, since he/she was ALREADY contrary to YAHWEH's Way, in lying to Eve, trying to deceive her to break YAHWEH's Law (Torah). And that PROVES a time period between Genesis 1:1, when Lucifer, the Anointed Cherub (Malak Gadol), one of the Morning Stars (one of the first Spiritual Beings to be Created) was Created "IN THE HEAVENS", and the time when Man was Created, when Lucifer was ALREADY become Satan the devil, trying to deceive Eve to break YAHWEH's Law (Torah). 
 
And, INSTEAD, you said that Lucifer became Satan the devil just when he/she deceived Eve in the Garden of Eden, looking like a sudden rebellion against YAHWEH's Way, contrary to what The Scriptures teach (Isayah Chapter 14; Yechetzqyah / Ezekiel Chapter 28).
 
It's very clear that,  at the time YAHWEH Created the Man, Satan the devil had ALREADY convinced one third of the Malakim to follow his/her rebellion against YAHWEH's Way, becoming demons. And that PROVES that there was a time period when one third of the Malakim became demons, following Satan's rebellion, between Genesis 1:1, when the Malakim were created "IN THE HEAVENS", and the time when the Man was Created.
 
And, INSTEAD, you believe that the rebellious Malakim became demons later on, contrary to what The Scriptures teach to be occued BEFORE (2 Kepha / Peter 2:4; Yahdah / Jude 6).  
 
May YAHWEH Open your mind and heart, eyes and ears to Understand it!
 
In YAHSHUA's Name,
 
Carlo Tognoni
 
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Subject: [TheTrueCommunity] Re: [TheTrueSabbathsAndNewMoons] Gap theory is false - (The creation of the EArth) - part 2 of 2 - REALLY???

Grace and Peace to all,
 
 
Thanks for responding to the 慻ap theory post Carlo. I have read your response thoroughly and can only say what I said in my initial post, which was, if anyone reads between Genesis 1:1 and 1:2 then they can make it say whatever they wish
 
 
Have you noticed that everything that is clearly written about this in the Scriptures you palm off as 憊ery strange拝or have questions of doubt? Even though you and I are finding out how we disagree on many more things that we would have imagined, I find your explanation of this theory in particular to be highly unscriptural and unfruitful.
 
 
I feel bad to have to say this but, It抯 time to let that false doctrine go Carlo. It has planted a bad seed in your mind and has forced you to distort, twist and be dishonest with JAH扴 WORDS. I抦 a bit disappointed that many sincere people have adopted this erroneous doctrine but this is the world that we live in
 
 
As I already said, I find your rebuttal to be very unscriptural and contrary to the Most High抯 testimony and have witnessed you forwarding your own idea into the Scriptures to say things it's clearly not saying, but I will not comment any more on your response in your forums and choose to let peace reign
 
 
For anyone who wishes to catch up with what we were saying about this doctrine please read the messages at the following links
 
 
Part 1 False Gap theory
 
 
Part 2 False Gap theory
 
 
Peace

The Community of YAHWEH <yahwehcommunity@ yahoo.com> wrote:
Shalom (Peace) to Everyone!
 
Yes, there a time period between Genesis 1:1 and 1:2!
 
How many years? YAHWEH knows it.
 
That is NOT trying to read between the lines of the Scriptures, but simply toany, but simply to read the lines or verses of the Scriptures!
 
In fact, in Genesis 1:1 it is written, "IN THE BEGINNING Elohim Created the Heavens and the Earth".
 
When was such "IN THE BEGINNING"?? ? Just about 6000 years ago, when man was created??? Or BEFORE that time???
 
The Scriptures indicate that the Malakim - the Morning Stars and the Sons of Elohim - were CREATED BEFORE that time, since they sang together and shouted for joy when YAHWEH CREATED the Earth (Iyyob / Job 38:4-7)!
 
By the way, VERY STRANGE to sing together and shout for joy if the Earth was only a rock "without form and void" and fully covered of water, and darkness!?!
 
Then, "IN THE BEGINNING" of Genesis 1:1 includes also the CREATION of the Malakim (IN THE HEAVENS), that surely occurred MORE THAN 6000 years ago!
 
So, surely we have a TIME PERIOD between Genesis 1:1, occurred MORE THAN 6000 years ago, and Genesis 1:2, occurred about 6000 years ago.
 
It doesn't matter how many years between the two.
 
GENESIS 1:1 - "IN THE BEGINNING" (MORE THAN 6000 years ago) YAHWEH Created the HEAVENS (that SURELY included the Malakim - the Morning Stars and the Sons of Elohim, but also the Galaxies, Stars, and Planets, because it would be VERY STRANGE that the Malakim would have been living and dwelling in DARK AND VOID HEAVENS) and the EARTH (that surely was A VERY BEAUTIFUL ALSO FOR THEM TO LIVE AND DWELL, otherwise the Morning Stars would NOT sing together for that, and the Sons of Elohim would NOT shout for joy for that!).
 
GENESIS 1:2 - Then, SOMETHING VERY DRAMATIC OCCURRED, that was NOT a human business, and it is NOT recorded, being a Malakim business - but the Scriptures seems to indicate that was Satan's rebellion, together with one third of the Malakim, that became demons, that caused such Chaotic conditions - the Earth BECAME without form and void, fully covered with water, and darkness - just as after a Universal Flood, similar to what occurred at the time of Noah.
 
GENESIS 1:3 AHEAD - About 6000 years ago YAHWEH Planned to MAKE or re-MAKE the surface of the Earth, and its enviroment, to fit It for vegetal, animal, and human life to Create on It!
 
Now Read Exodus 20:11.
 
 
         Exodus 20:11 - [11] For in six days YAHWEH made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is, and rested the seventh day: wherefore YAHWEH blessed the sabbath day, and hallowed it.
 
The Verb "to Make" here is the Hebrew "asah", meaning to Make (SOMETHING WITH AND/OR FROM SOMETHING ELSE), to accomplish, that is DIFFERENT from the Verb "to Create" used in Genesis 1:1, that is the Hebrew "barah", meaning to Create (SOMETHING FROM NOTHING), to shape, to fashion.
 
Then, the Six Days of the MAKING of the Heavens and the Earth clearly did NOT include Genesis 1:1 in which YAHWEH CREATED the Heavens and the Earth! 
 
Jahzrah asked such question: "If all of Jah抯 creation from Genesis 1:1-1:31 took only 6 days, then how can there be a GAP of millions of years between Gen. 1:1 and Gen. 1:2?"
 
The answer is quite simple: Genesis 1:1 is dealing with the entire Universe, when it was CREATED In The Beginning, while Genesis 1:2 is dealing only with the Earth, when YAHWEH Planned to Fit It to Create vegetal, animal, and human life on It.
 
Exodus 20:11 does not say "For in six days YAHWEH CREATED the heavens and earth!"
 
 
About the word "replenish", it can mean "fill again" or "refill", or just "fill". But, as a matter of Fact, the Scriptures show that Lucifer (Hillel) was in Eden, the Garden of YAHWEH, so that some of the Malakim lived, and dwelt on the Earth, BEFORE the Creation of Man. So that "refill" seems the appropriate meaning for "replenish".
 
About of the Hebrew verb "hayah", it can mean "to be", or "to become", or "to come to pass". Since the Hebrew verb "barah", in Genesis 1:1, means "to create, to shape, to fashion", connoting A FINISHED WORK, it is clear that the Earth, in Genesis 1:2, "became" or "came to pass" WITHOUT FORM AND VOID, and NOT "was" that chaotic way, fully covered with waters, and darkness!  
 
Yes, the Hebrew construction of Verse 2 is disjunctive, and is describing the result of something occurred previously, that surely was not the creation described in verse one, that was a finished creation (HEBREW "barah")!
 
YAHWEH was finished in Genesis 1:1 with the Creation of the ORIGINAL Earth!
 
Yes, YAHWEH Created Lights in the Heavens IN THE BEGINNING.
 
And when He said 慙et there be Light', in Genesis 1:3, it occurred ON THE EARTH, and NOT in the Heavens, and He saw It to be "beneficial" .
 
Do you read of any word said, and work made in Genesis 1:2??? NO! Just a description of a CHAOTIC state of the Earth "without form and void", full of darkness, and covered with waters!
  
PERFECT state??? The Spirit of YAHWEH moved upon that formless and empty dark rock immersed under waters, but NOT a word of such work from YAHWEH at that time!
 
YAHWEH didn't make such formless and empty dark rock immersed under waters! That was the CHAOTIC condition that the Earth BECAME!
 
YAHWEH Created a VERY BEAUTIFUL EARTH, In The Beginning, at which time the Morning Stars (Malakim Gadol / Archangels) sang together, and the Sons of Elohim (Malakim / Angels) shouted for joy (Iyyob / Job 38:4-7)!
 
Please Read Carefully 2 Kepha (Peter) 3:3-7 -
3 Knowing this first, that there shall come in the last days scoffers, walking after their own lusts,
4 And saying, Where is the promise of his coming? for since the fathers fell asleep, all things continue as they were from the beginning of the creation.
5 For this they willingly are ignorant of, that by the word of God the Heavens were of old, and the Earth standing out of the water and in the water.
6 Whereby the world that then was, being overflowed with water, perished:
7 But the heavens and the earth, which are now, by the same word are kept in store, reserved unto fire against the day of judgment and perdition of ungodly men.
 
"The Heavens were of old, and the Earth standing out of the water and in the water" were those CREATED IN THE BEGINNING (Genesis 1:1).
 
"The world that then was, being overflowed with water, perished" was that living on the Earth BEFORE Genesis 1:2, and NOT that at the time of the Flood of Noah, when eight people were saved from the waters, in the Ark, and didn't perish!
 
"The Heavens and the Earth, which are now" are those MADE or re-MADE from Genesis 1:3 ahead, in Six Days, about 6000 years ago, where we are living now!
 
In YAHSHUA's Name,
 
Carlo Tognoni
 
The Community of YAHWEH For The Disciples of YAHSHUA
 
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Subject: [TheTrueSabbathsAnd NewMoons] Gap theory is false - (The creation of the EArth) - part 2 of 2

Peace,
 
 
Is there a time period between Genesis 1:1 and 1:2? Many people believe there is卼hey even believe it抯 millions of years between these 2 verse匰ound confusing? To some it is very clear卻o let us examine the Scriptures to see what JAH is saying about His Creation.
 
 
How many millions of years are involved in the 慻ap theory, 2, 3 million? Hundreds of thousands of years maybe?
 
 
First of all, as Student of the Messijah, aren抰 we supposed to read the lines or verses of Scripture? Why are people trying to read between the lines?
 
 
Please dear student; do not look for a GAP or for anything else between two verses. In reading the Scriptures, Jah wants us to read the verses, not between the verses.
 
 
We need to read the lines, not between the lines!
 
 
Your heart will never be blessed by reading the gap between any Scriptures, like for example, Hebrews 13:5 and Hebrews 13:6. But if you read Hebrews 13:5 and then continue on to read Hebrews 13:6 and then if you believe those verses (wonderful promises!), your heart will be greatly encouraged!
 

We must read Genesis 1:1 and then read Genesis 1:2. Do not fall into the deception of attempting to read between these verses, because there is nothing there!
 
 
Bear this fact in mind dear reader:
 
 
         The person who reads between the verses can make the Scriptures say anything he wants. However, the person who reads only the verses is better able to see what Jah has said. Read Jah抯 Word, not the GAPS!
 
 
So back to the million year, I mean dollar question, Is there really a GAP of millions of years between Genesis 1:1 and Genesis 1:2?
 
Read Exodus 20:11.
 
 
         Exodus 20:11 - [11] For in six days JAH made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is, and rested the seventh day: wherefore JAH blessed the sabbath day, and hallowed it.
 
 
How long did that verse say it took JAH to make the heavens and the earth and the sea and everything that is in the heavens, the earth and the sea?
 
 
         "For in six days JAH made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is,
 
 
Was the beginning of the creation of the heavens and the earth in Genesis 1:1 included in this six-day period? I would say yes, others may say no. Jah said He made the heavens and the Earth in the Sabbath command and in Genesis 1:1 it states the beginning of the creation being the heaven and the earth.
 
 
         "In the beginning Jah created the heaven and the earth."
 
 
If all of Jah抯 creation from Genesis 1:1-1:31 took only 6 days, then how can there be a GAP of millions of years between Gen. 1:1 and Gen. 1:2?
 
 
Also, Exodus 20:11 does not say "For in six days JAH RE-MADE the heavens and earth!"
 
 
About the word "replenish"
 
 
         Genesis 1:28 says, "Be fruitful, and multiply and replenish the earth."
 
 
The word "replenish" does not mean "to fill again" or "to refill," but it simply means, "to fill." This is an old English word to mean 'fill'...however just like the word 'replete' (to fill) the word 'replenish' doesn't mean fill again. Could the translators have used the word 'plenish'?
 
 
In 1611 when the King James Bible was published, the word "replenish" meant "to fill." So JAH was telling Adam and Eve to fill the earth! It had never before been filled with people, and it was Jah抯 will that the earth should be filled up with people.
 
 
But as well let抯 take a look at the Hebrew word for 揜eplenish in Genesis 1:28
 
 
The word for 搑eplenish in the Hebrew is male' {maw-lay'} or mala and it simply means 搕o fill攨or 憈o be full拝not to Refill.
 
 
Many who support the Gap Theory say that in Genesis 1:28, Jah told Adam to "reFILL" the earth. They claim that this meant that Adam was to refill the world that had become empty and void of life due to some form of prior judgment from Jah.
 
 
But this argument is in error. For the Hebrew word "male" which was translated "replenish" in 1611 does not mean "to fill again". In 1611 the word replenish simply meant "to fill" (as in the First time). Many of the words we use today once had other meanings.
 
 
Jah wanted the earth to be FILLED with life, and this would include plants, animals and people!
 
 
Was the earth really unfilled in Genesis 1:2? Was it filled with plant life yet? Was it filled with rays of light at this point? Was it filled with plants and trees? Was it filled with birds and fish and land animals? Were the heavens filled with planets and stars? Was the earth filled with men?
 
 
The earth was quite unfilled! But as you read Genesis 1 you see that JAH did a wonderful job of filling His earth with life! See Psalm 24:1.


Jah抯 purpose was to prepare the earth for man! Read Isaiah 45:18. For what purpose did JAH create the earth? " To Be Inhabited."
 
 
Jah wanted to fill the earth with men (see Gen. 1:28). Jah wanted to fill the earth with living things! If Jah wanted to have an unfilled and uninhabited earth, then He would have stopped after Genesis 1:1. But Jah formed the earth and made it and established it and created it TO BE INHABITED! Jah spent the 6 days of creation getting the earth ready for men!
 
 
Another point of consideration is this
 
 
The Problem of the Word "BECAME":
 
 
Those who believe in the GAP want to re-translate Genesis 1:2 so that it will read this way:
 
 
"And the earth BECAME without form and void."
 
 
But the Scripture says, "And the earth was without form and void."
 
(Note: Most translations of Genesis 1:2 have "was" and not "became."
 
 
Genesis 1:2 says that the earth WAS this way, it did not become this way. What was the earth like when Jah first created it? It was without form and void! It had no form or shape卛t was matter without design.
 
 
The word "was" is translated from the Hebrew word "haythah".
 
 
Some claim that "haythah" means "became", as in the "earth became without form and void", but this is not correct. In order for "haythah" to be translated as "became" it must be preceded by a preposition meaning "to".
 
 
The Hebrew construction of verse two is disjunctive and is describing the result of the creation described in verse one. It is not describing the result of any judgment.
 
 
Why was it without form and void? Because that is how Jah made it! He made this earth material to continue His mighty creation and formation of this place we call the Earth
 
 
Jah was not finished in Genesis 1:1 with the earth yet! It only just began, which is what we clearly see if we don抰 read between the lines匢t was still early on in DAY one of creation! Jah made His place of Habitation called Heaven which is a Spiritual Realm for Spiritual Beings.
 
 
If the earth was originally WITHOUT FORM and VOID, then what does this mean? Why would Jah create the earth this way? What do these words mean?


"Without form" simply means UNFORMED or WITHOUT SHAPE! The earth was UNFORMED, it had NO SHAPE OR STRUCTURE OR ORDER. It was just MATTER厖.LIKE CLAY.
 
 
It needed to be formed and shaped and prepared for man! It was also "void" which means devoid of life, empty or UNFILLED. The earth at this point was very empty (no plants, no animals, no people, etc.). The original earth was not ruined and spoiled but it was UNFORMED and UNFILLED!!
 
 
Until this point THERE WAS DARKNESS covering the EARTH MATERIAL that was IMMERSED in WATER. In other words DARKNESS was everywhere匛ven in Heaven. Why? Jah never made light yet? Some people want to say he made lights in the heavens, but it doesn抰 say that, and then why say 憀et there be light?
 
 
After making His Spiritual Heaven, He then made the Physical material called 揈ARTH which people call matter but everything physical upon this dry land and including the waters is called 揈arth.
 
 
This Earth material is a combination of Water and Material. This why there was no form, shape or actual body when Jah first made the earth, He first made the material called 揈arth to later form a sphere when He brought the waters together and brought forth the Earth Material from the Waters. And Jah divided the Waters from the Dry Land. Yet they Unite as the Earth.
 
 
Soil, Jewels, Wood, plants, metals, humans, animals, stone and water are all Earth.
 
 
Genesis 1:2 simply describes an earth at the early stages of creation before any formation or order was originated for it, but it was earth that had never been yet been cursed. It was UN-CURSED, but it was also UNFINISHED. In order for it to be cursed it had to be first be blessed.and that wasn抰 until the end of the Sixth day when Jah said everything is VERY GOOD.
 
 
Genesis 1:2 is Jah抯 perfect description of the early earth on the first day of creation! What was the earth like at that time? It was LIKE HE SAID, 憌ithout form and void! 


 In other words, it was UNFINISHED!
 

There were two things that Jah needed to do to finish his work of creation--He needed to FORM the earth and FILL the earth!
 

The expression "unformed and unfilled" does not mean that the earth was imperfect at all, it simply means without shape or form. Even in Genesis 1:2 the earth was PERFECT in this unformed state in the sense that it was everything that Jah intended it to be at that point in time! Jah does everything perfectly! He makes no mistakes! The earth was perfectly created, but it was not yet finished. It was not yet complete.
 

But when you come to the end of the creation week, Jah looks at the earth, which He had formed and filled and completed, and He says "Very Good" (GENESIS 1:31).
 
 
        Isaiah 45:18 tells us that Jah "formed the earth."
 
 
Genesis 2:7 tells us that Jah "formed man of the dust of the ground."
 
 
Think of a master potter. He starts with an unformed and unfinished lump of clay! It doesn抰 look very good! But there is nothing evil about an unfinished lump of clay! Just give the potter time to do his work! He will begin to form it and shape it and prepare it in just the right way!
 

Jah is the Master Artist! He formed the earth and perfectly prepared it for life. He has given our earth the touch of the Master抯 Hand! If you ever doubt this, just take a look outside at the world He has made! Jah抯 artistry and wisdom and masterful design are seen everywhere.
 
 
The Spirit of Jah, or the Breath of Life, is what is given to man to live....we are Earthlings with the Spirit of Jah...the soul is not another you, your soul is basically your body, and I say this because before man had the breath of life he was a dead soul, a soul without the breath of life, and when JAH breathed into man, and connected him to his environment, then man became a LIVING SOUL....
 
 
        Genesis 2:7 - [7] And JAH Almighty formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul.
 
 
At any rate, this newly made earth matter (material) was submerged in the DARK WATERS OF THE DEEP. We know this because it is from the dark waters that this earth material emerged forth from.
 
 
Now one thing to notice is that water is  partially earth material, in other words, we see that dark waters are present at the beginning.  Water is partially made up of earthly material and a Spiritual substance as well...H-2-O or water, is 2 parts spiritual (2 parts oxygen) and 1 part earthly (hydrogen).. ...this is why water is symbolically associated with the Spirit of Jah...
 
 
Bear in mind that the earth was without form for two days because Jah did not start to shape it, dress it and put life on it until the third day of creation and afterwards. And on this third day Jah separated the Earth material from the water and brought forth the land out of the water of which is also in the water.
 
 
        Genesis 1:9, 13 - [9] And Jah said, Let the waters under the heaven be gathered together unto one place, and let the dry land appear: and it was so厖厖 [13] And the evening and the morning were the third day.
 
 
        2 Peter 3:5 - [5] For this they willingly are ignorant of, that by the word of JAH the heavens were of old, and the earth standing out of the water and in the water:
 
 
What is vital to note is that darkness was upon the face of the deep first!! Before the first day of creation darkness was everywhere because Jah never began to create LIGHT as of yet厖.
 
 
        Genesis 1:2 -卆nd darkness was upon the face of the deep.
 
 
Then Jah COMMANDED THE LIGHT TO SHINE FROM THE DARKNESS AND said "LET THERE BE LIGHT"....
 
 
When Jah said let there be light, He was commanding the Light to shine forth from the Darkness.... just like the Scriptures say.
 
 
        Genesis 1:3-4 - [2] And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of Jah moved upon the face of the waters. [3] And Jah said, Let there be light: and there was light. [4] And Jah saw the light, that it was good: and Jah divided the light from the darkness.
 
 
        2 Corinthians 4:6 - [6] For Jah, who commanded the light to shine out of darkness, hath shined in our hearts, to give the light of the knowledge of the glory of Jah in the face of Jahoshuwah the Messijah.
 
 
I find the above Scriptures to be in harmony and I believe JAH. If there was darkness there was darkness, when He said let there be light there was light...
 
 
 
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#93 From: "Yehochanan Ben-Yisrael" <yehochanan@...>
Date: Sat Mar 10, 2007 5:33 am
Subject: Re: [TheTrueSabbathsAndNewMoons] Gap theory is false - (The creation of the EArt
yehochanan
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shalom YHWHPeople,

you present a problem that arises when people try to make Hebrew fit
Western thinking.  i appreciate your post.

the focus of your post is the word "hayah".  the confusion is that the
"perfect" tense in hebrew is usually translated as "past" tense in
English.  however, in Hebrew, there is not future, past or present.
verbs signify completed (past) or incomplete (future) actions.

the word, hayah, is in the perfect (complete) voice.  so, when you read
your post again and you associated references, read and interpret them
with the completed and incomplete actions in mind.

shalom,
yehochanan
--- In TheTrueCommunity@yahoogroups.com, YHWHPeople@... wrote:
>
>
> Shalom All,
>
>
> I decided to investigate what is known as the Gap theory and although
not finished, below is my findings thus far.
>
>
> There鈥檚 a doctrine that is referred to as The Gap Theory which
teaches that there was another Earth age before the one we lived in now.
They believe there is a gap between Genesis 1:1 and Genesis 1:2 where it
says,
>
>
> 1In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth. 2And the earth
was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep.
>
>
>
> The reason they say this is because of the word 鈥渨as鈥
which they say should be 鈥渂ecame鈥 without form and void.
i.e. the earth originally had form and was not void and something must
have happened to make it become without form and void.  On the surface
this sounds reasonable so let's examine the Scriptures and the Hebrew
word and see why the translators thought this should be the way we
should understand the word ha虃ya虃h that is translated it
鈥渨as鈥.
>
>
>
> The Hebrew definition of the word is Strong's 1961
>
>
>  H1961
> "指讬指"
> ha虃ya虃h
> haw-yaw'
> A primitive root (compare H1933); to exist, that is, be or become,
come to pass (always emphatic, and not a mere copula or
auxiliary):鈥"beacon, X altogether, be (-come, accomplished,
committed, like), break, cause, come (to pass), continue, do, faint,
fall, + follow, happen, X have, last, pertain, quit (one-) self,
require, X use.
>
> We see from the above that the word means be or become instead of
became i.e. the earth become void.  The question is did it become void
when it was created or did it become void after something happened and
it had to be re-created?
>
>
> In Isaiah 45:18 it teaches He created the earth not to become void but
to be inhabited, so why do people try to say it became void, contrary to
scripture?
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>
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> Isaiah 45:18 says,
>
> 18For thus saith the LORD that created the heavens; God himself that
formed the earth and made it; he hath established it, he created it not
鈥渋n鈥 鈥渧ain鈥, he formed it to be inhabited:
>
>
> The above Hebrew word for 鈥渧ain鈥 is the same as void and
the above Hebrew word 鈥渋n鈥 is the same word for
鈥渂ecome鈥 ha虃ya虃h Strong's 1961
>
>
>
> The verse teaches that he created the earth not to become void but to
be inhabited but people who teach the gap theory overlook this Hebrew
word 鈥渋n鈥 ha虃ya虃h that comes before the word
vain.
>
>
> When YHWH created Adam and Eve, they become naked, same as the earth
become dark and void,  In Genesis 2:25 it says,
>
>  25And they were both naked, the man and his wife, and were not
ashamed.
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>
>
> The word 鈥渨ere鈥 in the above is the same Hebrew word as
become  in Gen 1, Strong's 1961 ha虃ya虃h it is the same word in
Genesis one where it says the earth was without form and void.  I
believe the earth did become dark and void when it was created when YHWH
said BE and it Was.
>
>
>
> Now did Adam and Eve become naked when they were created or did they
have close on and then become naked? The question is did the earth
become without form and void when it was created the same as Adam and
Eve become naked when they were created? The prophet Isaiah seems to
think so because he teaches YHWH did not create the earth to become void
but to be inhabited not created to become void.
>
>
>
>
> There are many places this word is used and it does not imply
something was the opposite but I will give one more.  In Genesis 1:21 it
says,
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> 21And GodH430 createdH1254 greatH1419 whalesH8577, and everyH3605
livingH2416 creatureH5315 that movethH7430, whichH834 the watersH4325
broughtH8317 forthH8317 abundantlyH8317, after their kindH4327, and
everyH3605 wingedH3671 fowlH5775 after his kindH4327: and GodH430
sawH7200 that it was goodH2896.
>
>
>
> Here is the same word again, 鈥渨as鈥 good, now I ask did
YHWH see that it become good when he created it or was it bad or
something opposite from good and then became good?
>
>
>
>
>
> Another foundational Scripture used by the gap theory Proponents is
the word 鈥渞eplenish鈥 as if it was plenished in the
beginning and something happened in a first Earth age and earth had to
be replenished so let's look up this word.  Strong's 4390 it says.
>
> H4390
> 诪指诇指讗 诪指诇值讗
> ma虃le虃鈥 ma虃la虃鈥
> maw-lay', maw-law'
> A primitive root, to 鈥渇ill鈥 or (intransitively) be full
of, in a wide application (literally and
figuratively):鈥"accomplish, confirm, + consecrate, be at an end,
be expired, be fenced, fill, fulfil, (be, become, X draw, give in, go)
fully (-ly, -ly set, tale), [over-] flow, fulness, furnish, gather
(selves, together), presume, replenish, satisfy, set, space, take a
[hand-] full, + have wholly.
>
> The primary meaning of the word was to fill the earth compare the
following.
>
> Gen-1:21-22
>
> 21And GodH430H430 createdH1254H1254 greatH1419H1419 whalesH8577H8577,
and everyH3605H3605 livingH2416H2416 creatureH5315H5315 that
movethH7430H7430, whichH834H834 the watersH4325H4325 broughtH8317H8317
forthH8317H8317 abundantlyH8317H8317, after their kindH4327H4327, and
everyH3605H3605 wingedH3671H3671 fowlH5775H5775 after his
kindH4327H4327: and GodH430H430 sawH7200H7200 that it was
goodH2896H2896.
> 22And GodH430H430 blessedH1288H1288 them, sayingH559H559, Be
fruitfulH6509H6509, and multiplyH7235H7235, and
鈥渇ill鈥滺4390H4390 the watersH4325H4325 in the
seasH3220H3220, and let fowlH5775H5775 multiplyH7235H7235 in the
earthH776H776.
>
>
> NOTICE the word fill here is the same Hebrew word for replenish in
Gen-1:27-28, did have to be replenished also or should the word be
understood as fill the waters?
>
> 27So GodH430H430 createdH1254H1254 manH120H120 in his own
imageH6754H6754, in the imageH6754H6754 of GodH430H430 createdH1254H1254
he him; maleH2145H2145 and femaleH5347H5347 createdH1254H1254 he them.
> 28And GodH430H430 blessedH1288H1288 them, and GodH430H430 saidH559H559
unto them, Be fruitfulH6509H6509, and multiplyH7235H7235, and
鈥渞eplenish鈥滺4390H4390 the earthH776H776, and
subdueH3533H3533 it:
>
>
> Man was commanded to multiply fill the earth same as the fishes were
to fill or replenish the waters.
>
> Fill in 1:22 is 4390 same Hebrew word as replenish in1:28 and it is
not talking about redoing something as some suggest.
>
>
> I am running out of time because service is in a few minutes but
please examine the evidence so far and if we do away with their mane
foundational Scriptures and show the true meaning and understanding we
might not have to go any further to show there is no evidence to teach
this doctrine.
>
>
>
> Brother Arnold
>
>  Brother Arnold
>
> http://www.lunarsabbath.org/
>
>
> ---- Original Message ----
> From: jahzrah@...
> To: Thetruecalendar@yahoogroups.com; thetruecommunity@yahoogroups.com;
thetruesabbathsandnewmoons@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Tue, 27 Feb 2007 10:37 PM
> Subject: [TheTrueSabbathsAndNewMoons] Gap theory is false - (The
creation of the EArth) - part 2 of 2
>
>
> Peace,
>
>
> Is there a time period between Genesis 1:1 and 1:2? Many people
believe there is鈥hey even believe it鈥檚 millions of years
between these 2 verse鈥ound confusing? To some it is very
clear鈥o let us examine the Scriptures to see what JAH is saying
about His Creation.
>
>
> How many millions of years are involved in the 鈥榞ap鈥
theory, 2, 3 million? Hundreds of thousands of years maybe?
>
>
> First of all, as Student of the Messijah, aren鈥檛 we supposed to
read the lines or verses of Scripture? Why are people trying to read
between the lines?
>
>
> Please dear student; do not look for a GAP or for anything else
between two verses. In reading the Scriptures, Jah wants us to read the
verses, not between the verses.
>
>
> We need to read the lines, not between the lines!
>
>
> Your heart will never be blessed by reading the gap between any
Scriptures, like for example, Hebrews 13:5 and Hebrews 13:6. But if you
read Hebrews 13:5 and then continue on to read Hebrews 13:6 and then if
you believe those verses (wonderful promises!), your heart will be
greatly encouraged!
>
>
> We must read Genesis 1:1 and then read Genesis 1:2. Do not fall into
the deception of attempting to read between these verses, because there
is nothing there!
>
>
> Bear this fact in mind dear reader:
>
>
> 路         The person who reads between the verses can make the
Scriptures say anything he wants. However, the person who reads only the
verses is better able to see what Jah has said. Read Jah鈥檚 Word,
not the GAPS!
>
>
> So back to the million year, I mean dollar question, Is there really a
GAP of millions of years between Genesis 1:1 and Genesis 1:2?
>
> Read Exodus 20:11.
>
>
> 路         Exodus 20:11 - [11] For in six days JAH made heaven and
earth, the sea, and all that in them is, and rested the seventh day:
wherefore JAH blessed the sabbath day, and hallowed it.
>
>
> How long did that verse say it took JAH to make the heavens and the
earth and the sea and everything that is in the heavens, the earth and
the sea?
>
>
> 路         "For in six days JAH made heaven and earth, the sea, and
all that in them is,
>
>
> Was the beginning of the creation of the heavens and the earth in
Genesis 1:1 included in this six-day period? I would say yes, others may
say no. Jah said He made the heavens and the Earth in the Sabbath
command and in Genesis 1:1 it states the beginning of the creation being
the heaven and the earth.
>
>
> 路         "In the beginning Jah created the heaven and the earth."
>
>
> If all of Jah鈥檚 creation from Genesis 1:1-1:31 took only 6
days, then how can there be a GAP of millions of years between Gen. 1:1
and Gen. 1:2?
>
>
> Also, Exodus 20:11 does not say "For in six days JAH RE-MADE the
heavens and earth!"
>
>
> About the word "replenish"
>
>
> 路         Genesis 1:28 says, "Be fruitful, and multiply and
replenish the earth."
>
>
> The word "replenish" does not mean "to fill again" or "to refill," but
it simply means, "to fill." This is an old English word to mean
'fill'...however just like the word 'replete' (to fill) the word
'replenish' doesn't mean fill again. Could the translators have used the
word 'plenish'?
>
>
> In 1611 when the King James Bible was published, the word "replenish"
meant "to fill." So JAH was telling Adam and Eve to fill the earth! It
had never before been filled with people, and it was Jah鈥檚 will
that the earth should be filled up with people.
>
>
> But as well let鈥檚 take a look at the Hebrew word for
鈥淩eplenish鈥 in Genesis 1:28鈥
>
>
> The word for 鈥渞eplenish鈥 in the Hebrew is male'
{maw-lay'} or mala鈥 and it simply means 鈥" 鈥渢o
fill鈥濃r 鈥榯o be full鈥欌ot to Refill鈥.
>
>
> Many who support the Gap Theory say that in Genesis 1:28, Jah told
Adam to "reFILL" the earth. They claim that this meant that Adam was to
refill the world that had become empty and void of life due to some form
of prior judgment from Jah.
>
>
> But this argument is in error. For the Hebrew word "male" which was
translated "replenish" in 1611 does not mean "to fill again". In 1611
the word replenish simply meant "to fill" (as in the First time). Many
of the words we use today once had other meanings.
>
>
> Jah wanted the earth to be FILLED with life, and this would include
plants, animals and people!
>
>
> Was the earth really unfilled in Genesis 1:2? Was it filled with plant
life yet? Was it filled with rays of light at this point? Was it filled
with plants and trees? Was it filled with birds and fish and land
animals? Were the heavens filled with planets and stars? Was the earth
filled with men?
>
>
> The earth was quite unfilled! But as you read Genesis 1 you see that
JAH did a wonderful job of filling His earth with life! See Psalm 24:1.
>
>
> Jah鈥檚 purpose was to prepare the earth for man! Read Isaiah
45:18. For what purpose did JAH create the earth? " To Be Inhabited."
>
>
> Jah wanted to fill the earth with men (see Gen. 1:28). Jah wanted to
fill the earth with living things! If Jah wanted to have an unfilled and
uninhabited earth, then He would have stopped after Genesis 1:1. But Jah
formed the earth and made it and established it and created it TO BE
INHABITED! Jah spent the 6 days of creation getting the earth ready for
men!
>
>
> Another point of consideration is this鈥
>
>
> The Problem of the Word "BECAME":
>
>
> Those who believe in the GAP want to re-translate Genesis 1:2 so that
it will read this way:
>
>
> "And the earth BECAME without form and void."
>
>
> But the Scripture says, "And the earth was without form and void."
>
> (Note: Most translations of Genesis 1:2 have "was" and not "became."
>
>
> Genesis 1:2 says that the earth WAS this way, it did not become this
way. What was the earth like when Jah first created it? It was without
form and void! It had no form or shape鈥t was matter without
design.
>
>
> The word "was" is translated from the Hebrew word "haythah".
>
>
> Some claim that "haythah" means "became", as in the "earth became
without form and void", but this is not correct. In order for "haythah"
to be translated as "became" it must be preceded by a preposition
meaning "to".
>
>
> The Hebrew construction of verse two is disjunctive and is describing
the result of the creation described in verse one. It is not describing
the result of any judgment.
>
>
> Why was it without form and void? Because that is how Jah made it! He
made this earth material to continue His mighty creation and formation
of this place we call the Earth鈥
>
>
> Jah was not finished in Genesis 1:1 with the earth yet! It only just
began, which is what we clearly see if we don鈥檛 read between the
lines鈥t was still early on in DAY one of creation! Jah made His
place of Habitation called Heaven which is a Spiritual Realm for
Spiritual Beings.
>
>
> If the earth was originally WITHOUT FORM and VOID, then what does this
mean? Why would Jah create the earth this way? What do these words mean?
>
>
> "Without form" simply means UNFORMED or WITHOUT SHAPE! The earth was
UNFORMED, it had NO SHAPE OR STRUCTURE OR ORDER. It was just
MATTER鈥︹.LIKE CLAY.
>
>
> It needed to be formed and shaped and prepared for man! It was also
"void" which means devoid of life, empty or UNFILLED. The earth at this
point was very empty (no plants, no animals, no people, etc.). The
original earth was not ruined and spoiled but it was UNFORMED and
UNFILLED!!
>
>
> Until this point THERE WAS DARKNESS covering the EARTH MATERIAL that
was IMMERSED in WATER. In other words DARKNESS was everywhere鈥ven
in Heaven. Why? Jah never made light yet? Some people want to say he
made lights in the heavens, but it doesn鈥檛 say that, and then why
say 鈥榣et there be light鈥?
>
>
> After making His Spiritual Heaven, He then made the Physical material
called 鈥淓ARTH鈥 which people call matter but everything
physical upon this dry land and including the waters is called
鈥淓arth.鈥
>
>
> This Earth material is a combination of Water and Material. This why
there was no form, shape or actual body when Jah first made the earth,
He first made the material called 鈥淓arth鈥 to later form a
sphere when He brought the waters together and brought forth the Earth
Material from the Waters. And Jah divided the Waters from the Dry Land.
Yet they Unite as the Earth.
>
>
> Soil, Jewels, Wood, plants, metals, humans, animals, stone and water
are all Earth.
>
>
> Genesis 1:2 simply describes an earth at the early stages of creation
before any formation or order was originated for it, but it was earth
that had never been yet been cursed. It was UN-CURSED, but it was also
UNFINISHED. In order for it to be cursed it had to be first be
blessed鈥.and that wasn鈥檛 until the end of the Sixth day
when Jah said everything is VERY GOOD.
>
>
> Genesis 1:2 is Jah鈥檚 perfect description of the early earth on
the first day of creation! What was the earth like at that time? It was
LIKE HE SAID, 鈥榳ithout form and void!鈥
>
>
>  In other words, it was UNFINISHED!
>
>
> There were two things that Jah needed to do to finish his work of
creation--He needed to FORM the earth and FILL the earth!
>
>
>
> The expression "unformed and unfilled" does not mean that the earth
was imperfect at all, it simply means without shape or form. Even in
Genesis 1:2 the earth was PERFECT in this unformed state in the sense
that it was everything that Jah intended it to be at that point in time!
Jah does everything perfectly! He makes no mistakes! The earth was
perfectly created, but it was not yet finished. It was not yet complete.
>
>
> But when you come to the end of the creation week, Jah looks at the
earth, which He had formed and filled and completed, and He says "Very
Good" (GENESIS 1:31).
>
>
> 路        Isaiah 45:18 tells us that Jah "formed the earth."
>
>
> Genesis 2:7 tells us that Jah "formed man of the dust of the ground."
>
>
> Think of a master potter. He starts with an unformed and unfinished
lump of clay! It doesn鈥檛 look very good! But there is nothing
evil about an unfinished lump of clay! Just give the potter time to do
his work! He will begin to form it and shape it and prepare it in just
the right way!
>
>
> Jah is the Master Artist! He formed the earth and perfectly prepared
it for life. He has given our earth the touch of the Master鈥檚
Hand! If you ever doubt this, just take a look outside at the world He
has made! Jah鈥檚 artistry and wisdom and masterful design are seen
everywhere.
>
>
> The Spirit of Jah, or the Breath of Life, is what is given to man to
live....we are Earthlings with the Spirit of Jah...the soul is not
another you, your soul is basically your body, and I say this because
before man had the breath of life he was a dead soul, a soul without the
breath of life, and when JAH breathed into man, and connected him to his
environment, then man became a LIVING SOUL....
>
>
> 路        Genesis 2:7 - [7] And JAH Almighty formed man of the dust
of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and
man became a living soul.
>
>
> At any rate, this newly made earth matter (material) was submerged in
the DARK WATERS OF THE DEEP. We know this because it is from the dark
waters that this earth material emerged forth from.
>
>
> Now one thing to notice is that water is  partially earth material, in
other words, we see that dark waters are present at the beginning.
Water is partially made up of earthly material and a Spiritual substance
as well...H-2-O or water, is 2 parts spiritual (2 parts oxygen) and 1
part earthly (hydrogen).....this is why water is symbolically associated
with the Spirit of Jah...
>
>
> Bear in mind that the earth was without form for two days because Jah
did not start to shape it, dress it and put life on it until the third
day of creation and afterwards. And on this third day Jah separated the
Earth material from the water and brought forth the land out of the
water of which is also in the water.
>
>
> 路        Genesis 1:9, 13 - [9] And Jah said, Let the waters under
the heaven be gathered together unto one place, and let the dry land
appear: and it was so鈥︹︹︹ [13] And the evening and the
morning were the third day.
>
>
> 路        2 Peter 3:5 - [5] For this they willingly are ignorant
of, that by the word of JAH the heavens were of old, and the earth
standing out of the water and in the water:
>
>
> What is vital to note is that darkness was upon the face of the deep
first!! Before the first day of creation darkness was everywhere because
Jah never began to create LIGHT as of yet鈥︹.
>
>
> 路        Genesis 1:2 -鈥nd darkness was upon the face of the
deep鈥.
>
>
> Then Jah COMMANDED THE LIGHT TO SHINE FROM THE DARKNESS AND said "LET
THERE BE LIGHT"....
>
>
> When Jah said let there be light, He was commanding the Light to shine
forth from the Darkness....just like the Scriptures say.
>
>
> 路        Genesis 1:3-4 - [2] And the earth was without form, and
void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of Jah
moved upon the face of the waters. [3] And Jah said, Let there be light:
and there was light. [4] And Jah saw the light, that it was good: and
Jah divided the light from the darkness.
>
>
> 路        2 Corinthians 4:6 - [6] For Jah, who commanded the light
to shine out of darkness, hath shined in our hearts, to give the light
of the knowledge of the glory of Jah in the face of Jahoshuwah the
Messijah.
>
>
> I find the above Scriptures to be in harmony and I believe JAH. If
there was darkness there was darkness, when He said let there be light
there was light...
>
>
>
> peace.
>
>
>
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articles to study at http://www.members.tripod.com/zionofjah/
>
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>
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>
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#97 From: The Community of YAHWEH <yahwehcommunity@...>
Date: Mon Apr 9, 2007 3:50 am
Subject: Is the so-called "Gap Theory" a false doctrine?
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Shalom Everyone!
 
Some people are claiming that the so-called "Gap Theory" is a false doctrine, that is, the Making of the Earth's surface and enviroment in Six Days, from Genesis 1:3 to 1:31, as a far later time from the Original Creation of the Heavens and the Earth in the Beginning, in Genesis 1:1.
 
IS REALLY SO, OR NOT???
 
Such people claim that the Heavens and Earth in the Beginning (Genesis 1:1) were Created in DARKNESS, without any STARS, LIGHT and HEAT, because they read, in Genesis 1:2, that DARKNESS covered the Earth, and in Genesis 1:14-19 that the Sun, and the Moon, and the Stars were "Made" on the Fourth Day.
 
But they miss to read, in Genesis 1:2, that WATERS covered the Earth too!  
 
Now, how could WATERS exist in DARKNESS, without any LIGHT and HEAT???
 
It's simply IMPOSSIBLE, naturally speaking, since WATERS would fastly become ICE!
 
So that is very clear and evident that LIGHT and HEAT existed BEFORE the Earth was in DARKNESS, so making possibile for WATERS to exist there, Proving that the Earth BECAME in DARKNESS, and it was NOT Created in that DARK way in the Beginning!
 
That also Proves that the Heavens in the Beginning (Genesis 1:1) were NOT Created DARK, but they were FULL of STARS, giving LIGHT and HEAT to the Planets, including the Earth, where WATERS existed (Genesis 1:2), so that Genesis 1:14-19 was NOT the Creation of the Sun, Moon, and Stars, but the Making of Them, to be in the right positions in the Sky, to Give Light and Heat to the Earth, and to Rule over, and to Divide / Separates Day (Light) from Night (Darkness), and as Signs for Days, and Seasons, and Years!
 
Unless such people that state the so-called "Gap Theory" to be a false doctrine, and that Heavens and Earth were Created in Darkness, wanted to claim that YAHWEH did NOT Use HIS Natural Laws, in Creating and Making the Heavens and the Earth, but HE was using a series of Miracles, absolutely contrary to HIS Natural Laws, as Waters existing in Darkness, without any Light and Heat (Genesis 1:2), and as morning (dawn to sunrise), and evening (sundown to dark) without any Sun, and grass, herb, and fruit trees existing on the Earth, without any Sun's Light and Heat, for Three Days (Genesis 1:3-13)!
 
May our Creator, and Father, and Supreme Savio(u)r YAHWEH Bless your Insight of HIS Will and Word, The Truth!
 
True Love in HIS Beloved Son and our High Priest and Personal Savio(u)r YAHSHUA MESSIYAH,
 
Carlo Tognoni
 
The Community of YAHWEH For The Disciples of YAHSHUA
 
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#99 From: Jahzrah Jahzrah <jahzrah@...>
Date: Sat Apr 14, 2007 5:52 pm
Subject: The Wise Men of Matthew 2 - Are they "Magi"?
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Greetings to all,
 
We of the Zion Assembly of Jahshuwah have come to the Seventh Sabbath of the Count to the Feast of Weeks, also called the Feast of Firstfruits and the Feast of Pentecost. Indeed this will be different from those who use the luni-solar calendar of which the Astronomical Passover has just passed....but this is not about Calendars.
 
 
We also know that this Feast of Firstfruits is also the time of the Birth of the Messijah. I know many say the Messijah was born around Tabernacles but that is not true and that will be spoken of at another time and not in this post.
 
 
This post is regarding TRUE 慦isdom and the Wise men of JAH. As with everything holy, the Adversary has a counterfeit. There is True Wisdom and False wisdom.
 
 
True Wisdom is Scriptural and is defined by obedience to the Commandments. False wisdom is based off of carnal observation and carnal or worldly reasoning.
 
 
  • Job 28:28 - And unto man he said, Behold, the fear of Jah, that is wisdom; and to depart from evil is understanding.
 
  • Psalm 111:10 - The FEAR OF JAH is the BEGINNING OF WISDOM: a GOOD UNDERSTANDING have all they that do his commandments: His praise endureth for ever.
 
  • Proverbs 9:10 - The FEAR OF JAH  is the beginning of wisdom: and the knowledge of the Holy is Understanding.
 
The scriptures declare that the FEAR OF JAH is wisdom! To fear the MOST HIGH means:
 
 
  • To believe that He exists.To stand in holy awe before Him匱o believe in Him and have faith IN Him.To honor and respect Him, His Son and His Law.and to be afraid of Him and to tremble at His Word.
 
Solomon states it quite clear
 
  • Ecclesiastes 12:13- Let us hear the conclusion of the WHOLE MATTER: FEAR JAH, and KEEP HIS COMMANDMENTS: FOR THIS IS THE WHOLE DUTY OF MAN. 14 For JAH shall bring every work into judgment, with every secret thing, whether it be good, or whether it be evil.
 
Wisdom often manifests itself in `high-class' work; especially in the work for the MOST HIGH JAH.  Men, women and even children can have wisdom. Here are a few Scriptural examples.
 
 
Joseph
        Genesis 41:39 - 39: And Pharaoh said unto Joseph, Forasmuch as Jah hath shewed thee all this, there is none so discreet and wise as thou art
 
 
Bezaleel / Aholiab
        Exodus 35:30 - 30: And Moses said unto the children of Israel, See, JAH hath called by name Bezaleel the son of Uri, the son of Hur, of the tribe of Judah;31: And he hath filled him with the spirit of Jah, in wisdom, in understanding, and in knowledge, and in all manner of workmanship.34: And he hath put in his heart that he may teach, both he, and Aholiab, the son of Ahisamach, of the tribe of Dan.
35: Them hath he filled with wisdom of heart.
 
 
Women
        Exodus 35:25 -  25: And all the women that were wise hearted did spin with their hands, and brought that which they had spun, both of blue, and of purple, and of scarlet, and of fine linen. 26: And all the women whose heart stirred them up in wisdom spun goats' hair
 
 
Solomon
  • 2 Chron: 1:
11: And Jah said to Solomon, Because this was in thine heart, and thou hast not asked riches, wealth, or honour, nor the life of thine enemies, neither yet hast asked long life; but hast asked wisdom and knowledge for thyself, that thou mayest judge my people, over whom I have made thee king:
 
 
Jahoshuwah  the Messijah at 12 Years
        Luke 2:40 - 40: And the child grew, and waxed strong in spirit, filled with wisdom: and the grace of Jah was upon him...52: And Jahoshuwah increased in wisdom and stature, and in favour with Jah and man
 
 
So we can see from the previous Scriptures that Wisdom is manifested in Holy High Class Work for JAH.
 
 
Even Moses, when speaking to the children of Jahzrael, said these words about the Almighty's commandments:
 
  • Deuteronomy 4:6 - 6: Keep therefore and do them; for this is your wisdom and your understanding in the sight of the nations, which shall hear all these statutes, and say, Surely this great nation is a wise and understanding people.
 
 
  • Ezra 7:25 - 25: And thou, Ezra, after the wisdom of thy JAH, that is in thine hand, set magistrates and judges, which may judge all the people that are beyond the river, all such as know the laws of thy JAH; and teach ye them that know them not.
 
This brings me to the main focus of this post which is 揥ho were the Wise Men of Matthew chapter 2?
 
 
First of all, most Scriptural groups and individuals have been teaching that the Wise men of Matthew 2 who came to see the young child Jahshuwah the Son of JAH were 搈agi or 慳strologers or individuals who were wise because of their observations of the sky or heavens. THIS IS NOT TRUE!
 
 
Here are the main points I will address to expose the falsehood of this notion that the Wise men were 慚agi or 揂strologers.
 
 
As already shown:
 
  • Wisdom is obedience to the Commandments. Therefore the Wise men were followers of JAH.
 
  • There is a difference between the Wise men of Babylon or the World and the Scriptural Wise men of JAH.
 
  • The Wise men of Matthew 2 were Scriptural Believers in Jah and not Astrologers.
 
  • The Wise men of Matthew 2 never followed a Star in the Sky, meteor or celestial event of any kind.
 
  • The Wise men of Matthew 2 were led by JAH扴 ANGEL to the Messijah.
 
  • The Wise men of Matthew 2 were not present at the Messijah抯 Birth.
 
  • Translation of the words 搘ise men to mean 搈agi are false.
 
THE WISE MEN
 
Now that we know something about TRUE wisdom, let抯 get back to the initial question:
 
 
Who were the Wise Men who visited the Messijah ?
 
 
Well it is scripturally erroneous to call JAH扴 揥ISE MEN OF THE EAST 揗AGI, SORCERERS OR ASTROLOGERS!
 
 
Jah抯 righteous men were nothing of the sort. They were Faithful Saints of the Most High, True Believers, LawKeepers, Stewards, Witnesses, they were Worshippers of the Living Jah! JAH扴 WISE MEN WOULD NEVER ASSOCIATE WITH SORCERY OR ASTROLOGY
 
 
        Jeremiah 10:1 Hear ye the word which JAH speaketh unto you, O house of Israel: 2 Thus saith JAH, Learn not the way of the heathen, and be not dismayed at the signs of heaven; for the heathen are dismayed at them.
 
 
The Wise of the Most High stand separate from the 搒targazer, sorcerers, wizards, carnally wise men and magi or magicians of opposing Babylon.
 
 
Just like Daniel, Joseph and Solomon, the Wise Men of the East use the Scriptures to be Wise, just as All of Jah抯 Servants will do.
 
 
To be sure, the scriptures clearly identify the 搘icked wise men of the world. They are specifically addressed 搕he wise men of Babylon in Daniel 2:48. We also read of the wise men and the magicians of Egypt
 
 
  • Daniel 2:48 - [48] Then the king made Daniel a great man, and gave him many great gifts, and made him ruler over the whole province of Babylon, and chief of the governors over all the wise men of Babylon.
 
  • Gen 41:8 揳nd he (Pharoah) sent and called for all the magicians of Egypt, and all the wise men thereof:厰
 
There is a difference in regards to 搈an抯 wisdom or worldly wisdom as compared to Jah抯 Wisdom, take note
 
 
        Jeremiah 9:23 - 23: 揟hus saith JAH, Let not the wise man glory in his wisdom, neither let the mighty man glory in his might, let not the rich man glory in his riches:
24: But let him that glorieth glory in this, that he understandeth and knoweth me, that I am jah which exercise lovingkindness, judgment, and righteousness, in the earth: for in these things I delight, saith the MOST HIGH.
 
 
JAH扴 WISE AND RIGHTEOUS MEN OF THE EAST WERE MEN WHO FOLLOWED AND UNDERSTOOD THE SCRIPTURES OF THE MOST HIGH! THEY HUMBLY PUT LINE UPON LINE AND COMPARED SPIRITUAL THINGS TO KNOW THE TIMES AND SIGNS OF THE COMING KING!
 
 

THE STAR THAT APPEARED IN THE EAST

 
 
The 搒tar that the deceiving worldly scholars claim was a meteor, comet, asteroid or eclipse, that the 搈agi followed is all a lie. As earlier said the Wise Men are righteous Spiritual-Israelites (I do not know their nationality only that they are from the East, they could have been Israelites that were scattered, or just righteous men of an unknown nationality who worshipped the Originator of the Universe) and they are not 搈agi.
 
 
Secondly the 搒tar that led the wise men was an ANGEL OF JAH! Not a celestial display from the lights in the firmament. It抯 good to note that symbolically a 搒tar in the Scriptures can refer to humans or 揂NGELS.
 
 
  • Job 38:7 - [7] When the morning stars sang together, and all the sons of Jah shouted for joy?
 
  • Revelation 1:20 - [20] The mystery of the seven stars which thou sawest in my right hand, and the seven golden candlesticks. The seven stars are the angels of the seven congregations: and the seven candlesticks which thou sawest are the seven congregations.
 
  • Revelation 9:1 - [1] And the fifth angel sounded, and I saw a star fall from heaven unto the earth: and to him was given the key of the bottomless pit.
 
So we can see that a 搒tar in the Scriptures can be symbolic of an 慉NGEL of JAH. With this knowledge and understanding we can begin to see the truth of this event. Let us go thru those Scriptures to clearly see this wonderful truth: 
 
 
  • Matthew 2:1 - Now when Jahoshuwah was born in Bethlehem of Judaea in the days of Herod the king, behold, there came wise men from the east to JAHruSalem, Saying, "Where is He that is born King of the Jews? for we have seen his star (Angel) in the east, and are come to worship him.
 
At first glance it may seem like these 憌ise men were in the East observing the sky when they saw a star appear in the sky, but this is not so for the simple reason that 慼ow would they know this so-called 憇tar was a sign to go to Jerusalem to look for the KING OF THE JEWS and worship Him. Did the star in the sky spell out a message that the King of the Jews was born? I know it sounds silly, but that is exactly what this false doctrine about the wise men following a star is, it抯 full of foolishness.
 
 
If we read carefully in the above, we can see that when this 慳ngel appeared to the men when they were in the East, that the Angel must have told them to that the King of the Jews was born and that they were to go to Jerusalem to worship HIM.
 
 
It makes much more sense because we know that Angelic messengers were sent to many people to announce the birth of the Messiah. But before we go there, let抯 stay with the scene found in Matthew 2
 
 
  • Matthew 2:3 - [3] When Herod the king had heard these things, he was troubled, and all Jahrusalem with him.
 
We read that 揌erod was troubled and ALL Jahrusalem with him. What could be so troubling to Hebrew Israelites about some 憁agi seeing a star in the sky? The Jahzraelites use the Scriptures and I can抰 see how a 慶omet, star or meteor can trouble ALL Jahrusalem. I mean the Priests, Pharisees and Sadducees were groups that followed Scripture, so they must have knowledge to use the Scripture to identify prophecy.
 
 
Do you think if some visiting astrologers said they say a literal star that Herod would be troubled.maybe due to the fact that he is a heathen,  but if the Wise Men had seen an Angel, then that would greatly disturb the King and all the Hebrew. A message from an Angel of JAH is very serious!
 
 
And also from observing the pattern of Jah when He sends Angels to give His Messages, the Angel usually tells the one whom is being visited to go somewhere or to a certain place or informs them of a Holy event that is about to take place. I see this with Zachariah, Mary, the Shepherds Peter, John, etc卆nd I抦 sure there are many more examples of Angel visitations.
 
 
Take note to these visitation of angels and bear in mind that these visitation all surround the Birth of the Messijah. We know that Jahn the Immerser was the forerunner to the Messijah and with his birth also we can see this pattern or angelic messengers. And notice that these visitations were TROUBLING to those who had seen or heard the angel, just like the Israelites and Herod when they heard the Wise men抯 words.
 
 

Witness # 1 - An Angel visited Zechariah

 
  • Luke 1:8 - [8] And it came to pass, that while he (Zechariah) executed the priest's office before Jah in the order of his course, [9] According to the custom of the priest's office, his lot was to burn incense when he went into the temple of JAH.[10] And the whole multitude of the people were praying without at the time of incense. [11] And there appeared unto him an angel of jah standing on the right side of the altar of incense.[12] And when Zachariah saw him, he was troubled, and fear fell upon him.
 
 
Witness # 2 An Angel visited Mariam (Mary)
 
  • Luke 1:26 - [26] And in the sixth month the angel Gabriel was sent from Jah unto a city of Galilee, named Nazareth, [27] To a virgin espoused to a man whose name was Joseph, of the house of David; and the virgin's name was Mary. [28] And the angel came in unto her, and said, Hail, thou that art highly favoured, JAH is with thee: blessed art thou among women. [29] And when she saw him, she was troubled at his saying, and cast in her mind what manner of salutation this should be. [30] And the angel said unto her, Fear not, Mary: for thou hast found favour with Jah. [31] And, behold, thou shalt conceive in thy womb, and bring forth a son, and shalt call his name JAHSHUWAH. [32] He shall be great, and shall be called the Son of the Highest: and JAH Almighty shall give unto him the throne of his father David: [33] And he shall reign over the house of Jahcob for ever; and of his kingdom there shall be no end.
 
 Witness # 3 An Angel visited Jahseph (Joseph)
 
  • Matthew 1:19 - [19] Then Joseph her husband, being a just man, and not willing to make her a publick example, was minded to put her away privily. [20] But while he thought on these things, behold, the angel of JAH appeared unto him in a dream, saying, Jahseph, thou son of David, fear not to take unto thee Mary thy wife: for that which is conceived in her is of the Holy Spirit. [21] And she shall bring forth a son, and thou shalt call his name JAHSHUWAH: for he shall save his people from their sins. [22] Now all this was done, that it might be fulfilled which was spoken of JAH by the prophet, saying, [23] Behold, a virgin shall be with child, and shall bring forth a son, and they shall call his name Emmanuel, which being interpreted is, Jah with us. [24] Then Joseph being raised from sleep did as the angel of JAH had bidden him, and took unto him his wife: [25] And knew her not till she had brought forth her firstborn son: and he called his name JAHSHUWAH.
 
Witness # 4 An angel visited the Shepherds.
 
  • Luke 2:8 - [8] And there were in the same country shepherds abiding in the field, keeping watch over their flock by night. [9] And, lo, the angel of JAH came upon them, and the glory of JAH shone round about them: and they were sore afraid (tROUBLED). [10] And the angel said unto them, Fear not: for, behold, I bring you good tidings of great joy, which shall be to all people. [11] For unto you is born this day in the city of David a Saviour, which is the Messijah the Master. [12] And this shall be a sign unto you; Ye shall find the babe wrapped in swaddling clothes, lying in a manger. [13] And suddenly there was with the angel a multitude of the heavenly host praising JAH, and saying, [14] Glory to JAH in the highest, and on earth peace, good will toward men. [15] And it came to pass, as the angels were gone away from them into heaven, the shepherds said one to another, Let us now go even unto Bethlehem, and see this thing which is come to pass, which JAH hath made known unto us. [16] And they came with haste, and found Mariam, and Jahseph, and the babe lying in a manger. [17] And when they had seen it, they made known abroad the saying which was told them concerning this child. [18] And all they that heard it wondered at those things which were told them by the shepherds.
 
As we have seen from these four scriptural witnesses, Angelic visitations completely surround the whole Birth of the Messiah and Jahn the Immerser (John the Baptist). As well, the same troubling and fear came upon those who heard and seen the angel, just like Herod and the Jahzraelites in Matthew 2:3.
 
 
So it should now be clicking in the reader抯 mind how the Wise men of the East had truly seen an angel and not a literal 憇tar in the sky. However, let us move further to get the whole understanding.
 
 
In saying this, we can further understand how the Angel that the Wise men of the East saw, who had visited them in the East, told them to go to Jahrusalem to look for the Young King of Jahzrael.This is why the wise men inquired, "Where is He that is born King of the Jews? for we have seen his star (Angel) in the east, and are come to worship him.
 
 
Let抯 get back to Matthew 2 to further see this wonderful revelation...
 
 
  • Matthew 2:4 - [4] And when he (Herod) had gathered all the chief priests and scribes of the people together, he demanded of them where the Messijah should be born. [5] And they said unto him, In Bethlehem of Judaea: for thus it is written by the prophet, [6] And thou Bethlehem, in the land of Juda, art not the least among the princes of Juda: for out of thee shall come a Governor, that shall rule my people Jahsrael.
 
I want you to notice two things from the above verses:
 
 
  1. Herod gathered all the chief priests and scribes. This is showing us that Herod knew that the Jahzraelites would know about the prophecy because it is a Scriptural prophecy.
 
  1. The scribes said 揊OR THUS IT IS WRITTEN BY THE PROPHET.The wise men, as all of Jah抯 wise men do, also used the writings of the Prophets and the Torah to read and understand Prophecy not celestial observations.
 
Let抯 continue. Pay attention to where I put the word 揂ngel in brackets to show the truth of the matter.
 
 
  • Matthew 2:7 - Then Herod, when he had privily called the wise men, enquired of them diligently what time the star (Angel) appeared. And he sent them to Bethlehem, and said, Go and search diligently for the young child; and when ye have found him, bring me word again, that I may come and worship him also. When they had heard the king, they departed; and, lo, the star (Angel), which they saw in the east, went before them, till it came and stood over where the young child was. When they saw the star (Angel), they rejoiced with exceeding great joy
 
So we can see that the Angel reappeared to the Wise men. And we can see that the Messijah was already born by the time the wise men were in Jahrusalem because we see the words 揧OUNG CHILD  as opposed to 慴abe.
 
 
I want to also emphasize that the nativity scene that is seen in the Christian world with the 3 wise men at the Messijah抯 birth is false. The Wise men weren抰 at His birth, they came way after His birth. Also we don抰 read of 3 wise men, we read of 3 different gifts giving to the Messijah.
 
 
As well take not that the Angel walked or went before them and came and stood over the young CHILD. A star in the sky can抰 hover over one particular house unless it came down and was floating over homes until it arrived at the Messijah抯 home. It is easier to see that the Angel led the Wise men to the home and stood over where the Holy Child was.
 
 
As we know, the rest of the episode continues with Jah warning His Faithful Wise to go another way, and Herod slaughtered many Israelite children in his wrath to slay the man child that was born unto the women (Israel) that will rule with a rod of Iron.
 
 
The Wise men weren抰 Astrologers, they were obedient followers of the Creator who used Scripture to learn true Wisdom and Understanding.
 
 
The Wise men saw Jah抯 Angel in the East and then the Angel reappeared to them in Jahrusalem and led them to Jahshuwah.
 
 

MAGI

 
The word `magi' is the wrong interpretation of the English words Wise men! So where does this interpretation of Jah's Wise Men being Magi, hence magician, come from? It comes from the corrupted minds of the heathens who are dismayed at the signs of heaven.
 
 
The Scriptures, compared with scriptures, is the ultimate standard of Truth. Having said that, the errors in the Scriptures, especially in regards to translations, are suspect to say the least.
 
 
I have heard many people say that the word `wise' comes from the Greek word magus (magi) - but that is a twist to support an astro-event of some kind and it is an attempt to take away the credit that Jah's Wise Men from the East were men who followed Scriptural Prophecy and obeyed Jah's Commandments.they observed Jah's Words and not a celestial event in the sky.
 
 
The word which more appropriately suits the context and Scriptural understanding of the word wise is the Greek word sophos [Strong抯 Gk: 4680] which simply means 搘ise, in the general sense.
 
 
The word wisdom {spiritual or carnal) in Greek means sophia [Strong抯 4678] (very similar to sophos). This is a more correct translation that coincides with the Scriptural definition of 搘ise as applied to the Righteous (and not Pagan) 揥ise Men from the East.
 
 
IN CONCLUSION
 
One cannot attend a university or secular college and sign up for a course on Wisdom! So how do we get wisdom? The Scriptures provide the answer.
 
 
        1 Chronicles 22:12 - Only JAH give thee wisdom and understanding, and give thee charge concerning Jahzrael, that thou mayest keep the law of the Adonay thy JAH.
         
        Proverbs 2:6 - For JAH giveth wisdom: out of His mouth cometh knowledge and understanding.
         
        Daniel  2:23 - I thank thee, and praise thee, O thou JAH of my fathers, who hast given me wisdom and might..
 
 
If you want wisdom, you must ask the Almighty Jah for it. For He is the fountainhead of wisdom. He is more eager to give wisdom to the foolish than we are to ask for it. Ask and ye shall receive.
 
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#100 From: Jahzrah Jahzrah <jahzrah@...>
Date: Sun Apr 15, 2007 8:32 pm
Subject: The Feast of Firstfruits and the Messiah
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Grace and Peace to all,
 
As I said in my former post, today Sunday April 15th is the Feast of Weeks/  Firstfruits/ Pentecost.
 
 
JAH扴 Annual Holy days are regular days of the week, which no work, other than the preparation of food, should be undertaken.
 
 
        Exodus 12:16 And in the first day there shall be an holy convocation, and in the seventh day there shall be an holy convocation to you; no manner of work shall be done in them, save that which every man must eat, that only may be done of you.
 
 
A holy convocation, incidentally, is a commanded assembly, which means 慶ompulsory attendance. This means that unless you抮e working in some life-saving job, where failure to work could result in someone dying (i.e. doctors, nurses, ambulance or fire services etc.) attendance at these holy convocations is compulsory!
 
 
The Most High抯 Feasts are days of rejoicing in that they celebrate His mightiest acts in the Programme of Salvation.
 
 
        Ezra 6:22 - And kept the feast of unleavened bread seven days with joy: for JAH had made them joyful, and turned the heart of the king of Assyria unto them, to strengthen their hands in the work of the house of JAH, the JAH of Israel.
 
 
        Nehemiah 8:10 - Then he said unto them, Go your way, eat the fat, and drink the sweet, and send portions unto them for whom nothing is prepared: for this day is holy unto our JAH: neither be ye sorry; for the joy of JAH is your strength.
 
 
        Deuteronomy 14:24-26 - 24: And if the way be too long for thee, so that thou art not able to carry it; or if the place be too far from thee, which JAH thy Maker shall choose to set his name there, when JAH thy Maker hath blessed thee: 25: Then shalt thou turn it into money, and bind up the money in thine hand, and shalt go unto the place which JAH thy Maker shall choose: 26: And thou shalt bestow that money for whatsoever thy soul lusteth after, for oxen, or for sheep, or for wine, or for strong drink, or for whatsoever thy soul desireth and thou shalt eat there before JAH thy Maker, and thou shalt rejoice, thou, and thine household.
 
Even in the future Jah will have His wonderful feasts full of the choicest of things.
 
 
        Isaiah 25:6 - And in this mountain shall JAH of Hosts make unto all people a feast of fat things, a feast of wines on the lees, of fat things full of marrow, of wines on the lees well refined.
 
Festival Seasons
 
JAH扴 commands concerning His three festival seasons are as follows:
 
 
        Exodus 23:14-17 - 14 Three times thou shalt keep a feast unto me in the year. 15: Thou shalt keep the feast of unleavened bread: (thou shalt eat unleavened bread seven days, as I commanded thee, in the time appointed of the month Abib; for in it thou camest out from Egypt: and none shall appear before me empty:) 16: And the feast of harvest, the firstfruits of thy labours, which thou hast sown in the field: and the feast of ingathering, which is in the end of the year, when thou hast gathered in thy labours out of the field. 17: Three times in the year all thy males shall appear before the Almighty JAH.
 
 
The Feast of Pentecost was originally called the Feast of Firstfruits or the Feast of Weeks. This harvest festival occurs 50 days after the waving of the sheaf, which occurs on the first day of the week. The waving of the Sheaf is after the 7th day of the Passover week. The 7th day of the Passover week is always a Sabbath. 
 
 
The Feast of Weeks means, seven weeks to the 50th day (Pentecost).
 
 

        Leviticus 23:15-16 And ye shall count unto you from the morrow after the sabbath, from the day that ye brought the sheaf of the wave offering; seven sabbaths shall be complete: 16 Even unto the morrow after the seventh sabbath shall ye number fifty days; and ye shall offer a new meat offering unto JAH

 
 
  • Deuteronomy 16:9-10 - Seven weeks shalt thou number unto thee: begin to number the seven weeks from such time as thou beginnest to put the sickle to the corn. 10 And thou shalt keep the feast of weeks unto JAH thy Maker with a tribute of a freewill offering of thine hand, which thou shalt give unto the Adoni thy Jah, according as JAH thy Maker hat blessed thee:
 
The Feast of weeks is supposed to be a time of Rejoicing before Jah
 
        Deuteronomy 16:11 - And thou shalt rejoice, before JAH thy Maker, thou, and thy son, and thy daughter, and thy manservant, and thy maidservant, and the Levite that is within thy gates, and the stranger, and the fatherless, and the widow, that are among you, in the place which JAH thy Maker hath chosen to place his name there.
 
 
Two Wave Loaves
 
The 50th day counting from the Sheaf is the conclusion of the Spring Grain Harvest; on this 50th day (Pentecost) Jah is honoured with the firstfruits represented by the two Wave Loaves.
 
 
Besides the sacrifice of certain animals, two loaves of leavened bread were offered to JAH at the Feast of Firstfruits, which the priest waves before Jah. These represented the first fruits of the wheat harvest from the field.
 
 
On a higher level the loaves of bread represent purified believers. They are now holy people, dedicated solely for priestly use. Sacrificed animals, most Believers know, represent Jahoshuwah the Messijah; but finely ground flour, fruit and incense represent the holiness and prayers of the people of the Most High. This is typical of Jah抯 firstfruits/people that are to be harvested and offered to Jah at the Messijah抯 second coming (Rev. 14:14-16; Heb 9:28).
 
 
        Leviticus 23:17-20 - Ye shall bring out of your habitations two wave loaves of two tenth deals: they shall be of fine flour; they shall be baken with leaven; they are the firstfruits unto JAH.
18: And ye shall offer with the bread seven lambs without blemish of the first year, and one young bullock, and two rams: they shall be for a burnt offering unto JAH, with their meat offering, and their drink offerings, even an offering made by fire, of sweet savour unto JAH. 19: Then ye shall sacrifice one kid of the goats for a sin offering, and two lambs of the first year for a sacrifice of peace offerings. 20: And the priest shall wave them with the bread of the firstfruits for a wave offering before JAH, with the two lambs: they shall be holy to JAH for the priest
 
 
A Basket of Fruit
 
The Firstfruits (Pentecost) Festival is to remind the saints throughout all generations, that Jah killed the first born of the Egyptians (type of present wicked world) both of man and beast, and redeemed His first born (Jahzrael) by his mighty hand (Exo. 4:22-23; 12:29; 13:15-16).
 
 
In addition to the young bullock, the rams, the lambs and the loaves, during the harvest season individual Jahzraelites were required to bring a 慴asket of fruit to the Most High: and they were commanded to enact the following drama.
 
 
        Deuteronomy 26:1-11- And it shall be, when thou art come in unto the land which JAH thy Abbah giveth thee for an inheritance, and possessest it, and dwellest therein; 2: That thou shalt take of the first of all the fruit of the earth, which thou shalt bring of thy land that JAH thy Abbah giveth thee, and shalt put it in a basket, and shalt go unto the place which JAH thy Abbah shall choose to place his name there. 3: And thou shalt go unto the priest that shall be in those days, and say unto him, I profess this day unto JAH thy Abbah, that I am come unto the country which JAH sware unto our fathers for to give us. 4: And the priest shall take the basket out of thine hand, and set it down before the altar of JAH thy Abbah. 5: And thou shalt speak and say before JAH thy Abbah, A Syrian ready to perish was my father, and he went down into Egypt, and sojourned there with a few, and became there a nation, great, mighty, and populous: 6: And the Egyptians evil entreated us, and afflicted us, and laid upon us hard bondage: 7: And when we cried unto the Almighty JAH of our fathers, JAH heard our voice, and looked on our affliction, and our labour, and our oppression: 8: And JAH brought us forth out of Egypt with a mighty hand, and with an outstretched arm, and with great terribleness, and with signs, and with wonders: 9: And he hath brought us into this place, and hath given us this land, even a land that floweth with milk and honey. 10: And now, behold, I have brought the firstfruits of the land, which thou, O JAH, hast given me. And thou shalt set it before JAH thy Abbah, and worship before JAH thy Abbah: 11: And thou shalt rejoice in every good thing which JAH thy Abbah hath given unto thee, and unto thine house, thou, and the Levite, and the stranger that is among you.
 
 
Notice in Hosea 12:12, that 揓acob fled into the country of Syria (Assyria) and served for a wife, see also, Genesis 29:10-35; 30:1-26.
 
 
The basket of fruit was symbolic of the spiritual fruit Jahzrael抯 JAH would produce in the lives of His people after He had rescued them from the slavery of sin. More about this fact later.
 
 
Without delay
 
There are a few points concerning firstfruits that we should note. They are mentioned in the following commands:
 
        Exodus 22:29 - Thou shalt not delay to offer the first of thy ripe fruits, and of thy liquors: the firstborn of thy sons shalt thou give unto me.
 
The Best
        Numbers 18:12 - All the best of the oil, and all the best of the wine, and of the wheat, the firstfruits of them which they shall offer unto JAH, them have I given thee.
 
 
1.    Jahshuwah抯 Birth, the First of the Firstfruits
 
The Ben (Son) of Jah that was promised to us was given to us in the year 4202 (A.D 2) on the day of the Feast of Firstfruits.
 
 

        Isaiah 7:14 - Therefore JAH Himself shall give you a sign; Behold, a virgin shall conceive, and bear a son, and shall call His name Immanuel.

 

 

        Isaiah 9:6-7 - For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon His shoulder: and His name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The Mighty Jah, The Everlasting Abbah, The Prince of Peace. 7 Of the increase of His government and peace there shall be no end, upon the throne of David, and upon His kingdom, to order it, and to establish it with judgment and with justice from henceforth even for ever. The Zeal of the JAH of Hosts will perform this.

 
 
The virgin Mariam (Mary) gave birth to Jahshuwah on the day of Pentecost in a manger, because there was no room for her and her husband in the inn.
 
 
  • Luke 2:7 - And she brought forth her firstborn son, and wrapped him in swaddling clothes, and laid him in a manger; because there was no room for them in the inn.
 
This was as a result of the flood of Jews that came from several nations to be registered along with those who came to celebrate Pentecost in Jerusalem, which filled all the accommodations in nearby towns including Bethlehem of Judah (Acts. 2:5-11).
 
  • Luke 2:10-11 And unto you is born this day in the city of David a Saviour, which is the Messijah the Adoni. 11 And this shall be a sign unto you; Ye shall find the babe wrapped in swaddling clothes, lying in a manger.
 
The Master Jahshuwah is the first born of His family. He is the first- fruit of the firstfruits (Jahzrael), and He shall redeem His people. The Feast of Firstfruits is the Messiah抯 birthday. Therefore, when we (the firstfruit saints) are celebrating Pentecost in this present time, we are celebrating our 揝aviour抯 birth.
 
 
JAH扴 only begotten Son is the first fruit; the fruit of His own body.
  • Colossians 1:15 - Who is the image of the invisible JAH, the firstborn of every creature.
  • 1 Corinthians 15:20, 23 - But now is The Messijah risen from the dead and become the firstfruits of them that slept.23 But every man in his own order. The Messijah the First fruits, afterward they that are the Messijahs, at his coming.
 
Jahoshuwah is 搕he author and finisher of our faith, and He has led us to Mount Zion, and unto the city of the living Jah
 
 
  • Hebrews 12:2 - Looking unto Jahoshuwah the author and finisher of our faith; who for the joy that was set before him endured the crucifixion, despising the shame, and is set down at the right hand of the throne of Jah.
 
He has led us to the 揾eavenly Jerusalem, and to an 搃nnumerable company of Angels, so let us cleave to that great 揝hepherd that was given to us on the day of Pentecost (Heb. 12:22-29; 13:20)
 
 
2.    BLESSING / CURSING
 
 
At their highest level, and I抦 not meaning the symbolic level of animal sacrifices and the waving of loaves of bread, the laws of the Most High are living, active and eternal laws. Like the laws of thermodynamics or the law of gravity, they are in operation at this very moment and the better we understand and obey them the better it will be for us.
 
 
In short, if you do what the Almighty JAH says, you will be blessed. But break His commands and they will break you. This fact is detailed in Deuteronomy chapter 28. I will quote a few verses concerning the results of obedience and disobedience.
 
 
Obedience
        Deuteronomy 28:1 - And it shall come to pass, if thou shalt hearken diligently unto the voice of JAH thy Abbah, to observe and to do all his commandments which I command thee this day, that JAH thy Abbah will set thee on high above all nations of the earth: 2: And all these blessings shall come on thee, and overtake thee, if thou shalt hearken unto the voice of JAH thy Abbah. 3: Blessed shalt thou be in the city, and blessed shalt thou be in the field. 4: Blessed shall be the fruit of thy body, and the fruit of thy ground, and the fruit of thy cattle, the increase of thy kine, and the flocks of thy sheep. 5: Blessed shall be thy basket and thy store.
 
 
Disobedience
        Deuteronomy 28:15 - But it shall come to pass, if thou wilt not hearken unto the voice of JAH thy Abbah, to observe to do all his commandments and his statutes which I command thee this day; that all these curses shall come upon thee, and overtake thee: 16: Cursed shalt thou be in the city, and cursed shalt thou be in the field. 17: Cursed shall be thy basket and thy store. 18: Cursed shall be the fruit of thy body, and the fruit of thy land, the increase of thy kine, and the flocks of thy sheep
 
 
3.    SPIRITUAL PRIORITIES
 
 
The Holy Spirit descended on the day of Pentecost, and the New Testament Assembly was founded on the day of Pentecost (Feast of Firstfruits) (Acts. 2:1-4, 36-47).
 
 
How important is all this to us living in this century? Does it really make any difference to the quality of one抯 spiritual life, or the welfare of this small congregation, whether we keep these Feasts of JAH or not?
 
 
After all, most of us don抰 make our living at agriculture. We don抰 grow wheat or keep sheep. We don抰 keep cattle for milk: neither do any of us keep bees for honey.
 
 
How does this feast of firstfruits affect us? The answer is: these low-level laws all have high-level spiritual meaning.
 
  • We are the soil. We were made from the dust of the earth.
  • Holy spiritual truths (the Words of JAH), the seed of Jah have been sowed in our minds.
  • The Holy Spirit is tending each one of us - with our permission - like a gardener tends his plot or a shepherd his flock.
  • JAH expects us to be producing Holy fruit in thought, word and deed.
    This is the purpose of our salvation.
 
Those ancient commands may not concern us at their low agricultural level: but most certainly they do at their high spiritual level. We are expected to bring forth 慺ruits of the Holy Spirit. Failure to do so will be catastrophic. Consider this parable:
 
 
        Luke 13:6 - He spake also this parable; A certain man had a fig tree planted in his vineyard; and he came and sought fruit thereon, and found none. 7: Then said he unto the dresser of his vineyard, Behold, these three years I come seeking fruit on this fig tree, and find none: cut it down; why cumbereth it the ground? 8: And he answering said unto him, Master, let it alone this year also, till I shall dig about it, and dung it: 9: And if it bear fruit, well: and if not, then after that thou shalt cut it down.
 
 
The meaning of this story is obvious. It needs little or no explanation. A vital clue to the importance of offering the best to JAH is found in what, at first glance, appears to be a misplaced instruction.
 
 
        Exodus 23:19 - The first of the firstfruits of thy land thou shalt bring into the house of JAH thy Abbah. Thou shalt not seethe a kid in his mother抯 milk.
 
 
What has this last sentence about cooking a kid in its mother抯 milk to do with firstfruits? The answer, I suspect, is: offering the first of the firstfruits is as vital to spiritual growth as milk is to a new-born kid. Withholding the best from JAH is tantamount to seething a kid in its mother抯 milk.
 
 
In other words, consuming the very thing (the milk), which was intended to make the kid grow has now been used to cook it. Withholding the firstfruits from JAH, in other words, is fatal. It will kill you in the end. I would say with the wise man:
 
 
        Proverbs 3:9 - Honour JAH with thy substance, and with the firstfruits of all thine increase
 
 
4.    HIGH LEVEL FIRSTFRUITS
 
 
As I stated before, firstfruits come at several levels: farm produce, living beings (believers) and the holy thoughts, words and actions of those believers.
 
 
JAH扴 people are also firstfruits; Individual Believers have the firstfruits of the Holy Spirit to be saved from sin.
 
  • Jeremiah 2:3 - Jahzrael was holiness unto JAH, and the firstfruits of His increase: all that devour him shall offend; evil shall come upon them, saith JAH.
  • Romans 8:21-23 - .And not only they, but our selves also which have the first fruits of the Spirit, even we our selves groan within our selves, waiting for the adoption, to wit, the redemption of our body.
  • James 1:17-18 - Of His own will begat us with the word of truth, that we should be a kind of firstfruits of His creatures.
 
The 144,000 of JAH. The (best) in quality. They are absolutely faultless.
 
         Revelation 14:4 - These are they which follow the Lamb withersoever he goeth. These were redeemed from among men being the firstfruits unto JAH and to the Lamb
 
The disciple Epaenetus
         Romans 16:5 - ... Salute my welbeloved Epaenetus who is the firstfruits of Achaia unto The Messijah.
 
 
5.    SPIRITUAL FRUIT
 
 
To produce a crop one must sow seed. Pause a while and consider that basic agricultural fact. Without sowing there can be no harvest. It is exactly the same in the spiritual realm.
 
 
Sowing to the Spirit
         Proverbs 3:9 - Honour JAH with thy substance and with the firstfruits of all thine increase. So shall thy barns be filled with plenty and thy presses shall burst out with new wine.
 
 
         Galatians 6:7-8 - Be not deceived; JAH is not mocked; for whatsoever a man soweth that shall he also reap. For he that soweth to his flesh shall of the flesh reap corruption. But he that soweth to the Spirit shall of the Spirit reap life everlasting.
 
 
         Galatians 22-26 - But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith, 23: Meekness, temperance: against such there is no law. 24: And they that are The Messijah抯 have crucified the flesh with the affections and lusts. 25: If we live in the Spirit, let us also walk in the Spirit. 26: Let us not be desirous of vain glory, provoking one another, envying one another.
 
 
I would add to this list, qualities such as: mercy, tender-heartedness, kindness, generosity, hospitality, compassion, good judgement, self-sacrifice, a proper sense of humour and the desire for reconciliation etc. If you produce such fruit the Most high will be your friend.
 
 
Sowing to the Flesh
 
Sowing to the flesh is not just committing blatant sin. Sowing to the flesh means sowing in the spirit of error and self-interest. This includes:
 
  • Pride: Thinking better of ourselves like we are not sinners or that we are spiritually more righteous than others. This was the first and most dangerous sin.
  • Greed.
  • Jealousy, envy and secret hate for those around you.
  • Misjudgment. Judging and coming to erroneous conclusions.
  • An unforgiving heart. This can be the case in many people.
 
These seeds produce a harvest of nothing but anger, strive and heartache.
 
 
We as brethren must not have bad feelings about one another, for the Messijah commanded us to love each other.
 
 
         John 13:34-35 - A new commandment I give unto you, That ye love one another; as I have loved you, that ye also love one another. 35 By this shall all men know that ye are my disciples, if ye have love one to another.
 
 
         Galatians 5:14-16 - For all the law is fulfilled in one word, even in this; Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. 15 But if ye bite and devour one another, take heed that ye be not consumed one of another.
 
 
         1 John 2:8-11 - Again, a new commandment I write unto you, which thing is true in him and in you: because the darkness is past, and the true light now shineth. 9 He that saith he is in the light, and hateth his brother, is in darkness even until now. 10 He that loveth his brother, abideth in the light, and there is none occasion of stumbling in him. 11 But he that hateth his brother, is in darkness, and walketh in darkness and knoweth not whither he goeth, because that darkness hath blinded his eyes.
 
 
Today, the Feast of Weeks (Pentecost) reminds the saints that just as Jah sent Moses to deliver the people of Jah from Pharaoh (typical of the devil), likewise, He shall send Jahoshuwah to deliver the saints from this evil Gentile world ruled by the Devil (Exo. 3:7-10; Deut. 18:15; Acts. 3:20-26; Isa. 52:1-15; 54:1-17; 33:22; 14:1-32; Rev. 19:11-16; Ps. 68:4,19-20).
 
 
The Feast of Firstfruits (Pentecost) is primarily about spiritual fruit. I tell you our very lives depend upon the kind of fruit we are producing. Just as we do not expect young children to produce offspring, or young fruit trees to produce fruit, in exactly the same way JAH gives us time to produce spiritual fruit in our lives.
 
 
Remember:
  • We are a kind of firstfruits - all of us.
  •  
  • He is looking for the fruit of the Holy Spirit in our lives. If he finds no good, spiritual fruit, it could end in being hewn down and cast into the fire!
  • We are commanded to put Him first and to bring Him the best.
  • We are recognized by others, believers and unbelievers, by our words and actions. We are known by our fruits.
 
The basket on this table here represents our Assembly. It contains a variety of the best fruit we could find in the locality. Just as these fruits are all different, so too are we different from each other. But you are here, part of this symbolic basket of fruit. By the blood of the Saviour you were brought out of Egypt, out of sin. Why? The answer is - to produce the fruit of the Holy Spirit.
 
 
In the light of these facts let all of us in the Zion Assembly examine ourselves and ask ourselves the question: Am I producing good fruit or evil fruit? That is the question we must address today - on the Feast of Firstfruits.
 
 
Praise Jahshuwah.
 
 


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Date: Sun Apr 15, 2007 11:46 pm
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This year, THE TRUE PENTECOST, The Feast of Sabbaths (Weeks), that is The Feast of Summer Harvest (Grain / Wheat), at or near to Summer Solstice Time (Numbers 28:26), The 50th Day After Seven Sabbaths (Weeks) From The Wave Sheaf Offering, After The First Month, "Abib" / "Aviv", The Month of "Green Ears of Barley", counting Seven Sabbaths (Weeks), beginning from the time it begins to put the sickle to the standing grain (Deuteronomy 16:9), from the day it's brought the sheaf of the wave offering, when it's reap the harvest (Leviticus 23:9-16), will be "sunday June 24, 2007"!
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Grace and Peace to all,
 
As I said in my former post, today Sunday April 15th is the Feast of Weeks/  Firstfruits/ Pentecost.
 
 
JAH扴 Annual Holy days are regular days of the week, which no work, other than the preparation of food, should be undertaken.
 
 
        Exodus 12:16 And in the first day there shall be an holy convocation, and in the seventh day there shall be an holy convocation to you; no manner of work shall be done in them, save that which every man must eat, that only may be done of you.
 
 
A holy convocation, incidentally, is a commanded assembly, which means 慶ompulsory attendance. This means that unless you抮e working in some life-saving job, where failure to work could result in someone dying (i.e. doctors, nurses, ambulance or fire services etc.) attendance at these holy convocations is compulsory!
 
 
The Most High抯 Feasts are days of rejoicing in that they celebrate His mightiest acts in the Programme of Salvation.
 
 
        Ezra 6:22 - And kept the feast of unleavened bread seven days with joy: for JAH had made them joyful, and turned the heart of the king of Assyria unto them, to strengthen their hands in the work of the house of JAH, the JAH of Israel.
 
 
        Nehemiah 8:10 - Then he said unto them, Go your way, eat the fat, and drink the sweet, and send portions unto them for whom nothing is prepared: for this day is holy unto our JAH: neither be ye sorry; for the joy of JAH is your strength.
 
 
        Deuteronomy 14:24-26 - 24: And if the way be too long for thee, so that thou art not able to carry it; or if the place be too far from thee, which JAH thy Maker shall choose to set his name there, when JAH thy Maker hath blessed thee: 25: Then shalt thou turn it into money, and bind up the money in thine hand, and shalt go unto the place which JAH thy Maker shall choose: 26: And thou shalt bestow that money for whatsoever thy soul lusteth after, for oxen, or for sheep, or for wine, or for strong drink, or for whatsoever thy soul desireth and thou shalt eat there before JAH thy Maker, and thou shalt rejoice, thou, and thine household.
 
Even in the future Jah will have His wonderful feasts full of the choicest of things.
 
 
        Isaiah 25:6 - And in this mountain shall JAH of Hosts make unto all people a feast of fat things, a feast of wines on the lees, of fat things full of marrow, of wines on the lees well refined.
 
Festival Seasons
 
JAH扴 commands concerning His three festival seasons are as follows:
 
 
        Exodus 23:14-17 - 14 Three times thou shalt keep a feast unto me in the year. 15: Thou shalt keep the feast of unleavened bread: (thou shalt eat unleavened bread seven days, as I commanded thee, in the time appointed of the month Abib; for in it thou camest out from Egypt: and none shall appear before me empty:) 16: And the feast of harvest, the firstfruits of thy labours, which thou hast sown in the field: and the feast of ingathering, which is in the end of the year, when thou hast gathered in thy labours out of the field. 17: Three times in the year all thy males shall appear before the Almighty JAH.
 
 
The Feast of Pentecost was originally called the Feast of Firstfruits or the Feast of Weeks. This harvest festival occurs 50 days after the waving of the sheaf, which occurs on the first day of the week. The waving of the Sheaf is after the 7th day of the Passover week. The 7th day of the Passover week is always a Sabbath. 
 
 
The Feast of Weeks means, seven weeks to the 50th day (Pentecost).
 
 

        Leviticus 23:15-16 And ye shall count unto you from the morrow after the sabbath, from the day that ye brought the sheaf of the wave offering; seven sabbaths shall be complete: 16 Even unto the morrow after the seventh sabbath shall ye number fifty days; and ye shall offer a new meat offering unto JAH

 
 
  • Deuteronomy 16:9-10 - Seven weeks shalt thou number unto thee: begin to number the seven weeks from such time as thou beginnest to put the sickle to the corn. 10 And thou shalt keep the feast of weeks unto JAH thy Maker with a tribute of a freewill offering of thine hand, which thou shalt give unto the Adoni thy Jah, according as JAH thy Maker hat blessed thee:
 
The Feast of weeks is supposed to be a time of Rejoicing before Jah
 
        Deuteronomy 16:11 - And thou shalt rejoice, before JAH thy Maker, thou, and thy son, and thy daughter, and thy manservant, and thy maidservant, and the Levite that is within thy gates, and the stranger, and the fatherless, and the widow, that are among you, in the place which JAH thy Maker hath chosen to place his name there.
 
 
Two Wave Loaves
 
The 50th day counting from the Sheaf is the conclusion of the Spring Grain Harvest; on this 50th day (Pentecost) Jah is honoured with the firstfruits represented by the two Wave Loaves.
 
 
Besides the sacrifice of certain animals, two loaves of leavened bread were offered to JAH at the Feast of Firstfruits, which the priest waves before Jah. These represented the first fruits of the wheat harvest from the field.
 
 
On a higher level the loaves of bread represent purified believers. They are now holy people, dedicated solely for priestly use. Sacrificed animals, most Believers know, represent Jahoshuwah the Messijah; but finely ground flour, fruit and incense represent the holiness and prayers of the people of the Most High. This is typical of Jah抯 firstfruits/ people that are to be harvested and offered to Jah at the Messijah抯 second coming (Rev. 14:14-16; Heb 9:28).
 
 
        Leviticus 23:17-20 - Ye shall bring out of your habitations two wave loaves of two tenth deals: they shall be of fine flour; they shall be baken with leaven; they are the firstfruits unto JAH.
18: And ye shall offer with the bread seven lambs without blemish of the first year, and one young bullock, and two rams: they shall be for a burnt offering unto JAH, with their meat offering, and their drink offerings, even an offering made by fire, of sweet savour unto JAH. 19: Then ye shall sacrifice one kid of the goats for a sin offering, and two lambs of the first year for a sacrifice of peace offerings. 20: And the priest shall wave them with the bread of the firstfruits for a wave offering before JAH, with the two lambs: they shall be holy to JAH for the priest
 
 
A Basket of Fruit
 
The Firstfruits (Pentecost) Festival is to remind the saints throughout all generations, that Jah killed the first born of the Egyptians (type of present wicked world) both of man and beast, and redeemed His first born (Jahzrael) by his mighty hand (Exo. 4:22-23; 12:29; 13:15-16).
 
 
In addition to the young bullock, the rams, the lambs and the loaves, during the harvest season individual Jahzraelites were required to bring a 慴asket of fruit to the Most High: and they were commanded to enact the following drama.
 
 
        Deuteronomy 26:1-11- And it shall be, when thou art come in unto the land which JAH thy Abbah giveth thee for an inheritance, and possessest it, and dwellest therein; 2: That thou shalt take of the first of all the fruit of the earth, which thou shalt bring of thy land that JAH thy Abbah giveth thee, and shalt put it in a basket, and shalt go unto the place which JAH thy Abbah shall choose to place his name there. 3: And thou shalt go unto the priest that shall be in those days, and say unto him, I profess this day unto JAH thy Abbah, that I am come unto the country which JAH sware unto our fathers for to give us. 4: And the priest shall take the basket out of thine hand, and set it down before the altar of JAH thy Abbah. 5: And thou shalt speak and say before JAH thy Abbah, A Syrian ready to perish was my father, and he went down into Egypt, and sojourned there with a few, and became there a nation, great, mighty, and populous: 6: And the Egyptians evil entreated us, and afflicted us, and laid upon us hard bondage: 7: And when we cried unto the Almighty JAH of our fathers, JAH heard our voice, and looked on our affliction, and our labour, and our oppression: 8: And JAH brought us forth out of Egypt with a mighty hand, and with an outstretched arm, and with great terribleness, and with signs, and with wonders: 9: And he hath brought us into this place, and hath given us this land, even a land that floweth with milk and honey. 10: And now, behold, I have brought the firstfruits of the land, which thou, O JAH, hast given me. And thou shalt set it before JAH thy Abbah, and worship before JAH thy Abbah: 11: And thou shalt rejoice in every good thing which JAH thy Abbah hath given unto thee, and unto thine house, thou, and the Levite, and the stranger that is among you.
 
 
Notice in Hosea 12:12, that 揓acob fled into the country of Syria (Assyria) and served for a wife, see also, Genesis 29:10-35; 30:1-26.
 
 
The basket of fruit was symbolic of the spiritual fruit Jahzrael抯 JAH would produce in the lives of His people after He had rescued them from the slavery of sin. More about this fact later.
 
 
Without delay
 
There are a few points concerning firstfruits that we should note. They are mentioned in the following commands:
 
        Exodus 22:29 - Thou shalt not delay to offer the first of thy ripe fruits, and of thy liquors: the firstborn of thy sons shalt thou give unto me.
 
The Best
        Numbers 18:12 - All the best of the oil, and all the best of the wine, and of the wheat, the firstfruits of them which they shall offer unto JAH, them have I given thee.
 
 
1.    Jahshuwah抯 Birth, the First of the Firstfruits
 
The Ben (Son) of Jah that was promised to us was given to us in the year 4202 (A.D 2) on the day of the Feast of Firstfruits.
 
 

        Isaiah 7:14 - Therefore JAH Himself shall give you a sign; Behold, a virgin shall conceive, and bear a son, and shall call His name Immanuel.

 

 

        Isaiah 9:6-7 - For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon His shoulder: and His name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The Mighty Jah, The Everlasting Abbah, The Prince of Peace. 7 Of the increase of His government and peace there shall be no end, upon the throne of David, and upon His kingdom, to order it, and to establish it with judgment and with justice from henceforth even for ever. The Zeal of the JAH of Hosts will perform this.

 
 
The virgin Mariam (Mary) gave birth to Jahshuwah on the day of Pentecost in a manger, because there was no room for her and her husband in the inn.
 
 
  • Luke 2:7 - And she brought forth her firstborn son, and wrapped him in swaddling clothes, and laid him in a manger; because there was no room for them in the inn.
 
This was as a result of the flood of Jews that came from several nations to be registered along with those who came to celebrate Pentecost in Jerusalem, which filled all the accommodations in nearby towns including Bethlehem of Judah (Acts. 2:5-11).
 
  • Luke 2:10-11 And unto you is born this day in the city of David a Saviour, which is the Messijah the Adoni. 11 And this shall be a sign unto you; Ye shall find the babe wrapped in swaddling clothes, lying in a manger.
 
The Master Jahshuwah is the first born of His family. He is the first- fruit of the firstfruits (Jahzrael), and He shall redeem His people. The Feast of Firstfruits is the Messiah抯 birthday. Therefore, when we (the firstfruit saints) are celebrating Pentecost in this present time, we are celebrating our 揝aviour抯 birth.
 
 
JAH扴 only begotten Son is the first fruit; the fruit of His own body.
  • Colossians 1:15 - Who is the image of the invisible JAH, the firstborn of every creature.
  • 1 Corinthians 15:20, 23 - But now is The Messijah risen from the dead and become the firstfruits of them that slept.23 But every man in his own order. The Messijah the First fruits, afterward they that are the Messijahs, at his coming.
 
Jahoshuwah is 搕he author and finisher of our faith, and He has led us to Mount Zion, and unto the city of the living Jah
 
 
  • Hebrews 12:2 - Looking unto Jahoshuwah the author and finisher of our faith; who for the joy that was set before him endured the crucifixion, despising the shame, and is set down at the right hand of the throne of Jah.
 
He has led us to the 揾eavenly Jerusalem, and to an 搃nnumerable company of Angels, so let us cleave to that great 揝hepherd that was given to us on the day of Pentecost (Heb. 12:22-29; 13:20)
 
 
2.    BLESSING / CURSING
 
 
At their highest level, and I抦 not meaning the symbolic level of animal sacrifices and the waving of loaves of bread, the laws of the Most High are living, active and eternal laws. Like the laws of thermodynamics or the law of gravity, they are in operation at this very moment and the better we understand and obey them the better it will be for us.
 
 
In short, if you do what the Almighty JAH says, you will be blessed. But break His commands and they will break you. This fact is detailed in Deuteronomy chapter 28. I will quote a few verses concerning the results of obedience and disobedience.
 
 
Obedience
        Deuteronomy 28:1 - And it shall come to pass, if thou shalt hearken diligently unto the voice of JAH thy Abbah, to observe and to do all his commandments which I command thee this day, that JAH thy Abbah will set thee on high above all nations of the earth: 2: And all these blessings shall come on thee, and overtake thee, if thou shalt hearken unto the voice of JAH thy Abbah. 3: Blessed shalt thou be in the city, and blessed shalt thou be in the field. 4: Blessed shall be the fruit of thy body, and the fruit of thy ground, and the fruit of thy cattle, the increase of thy kine, and the flocks of thy sheep. 5: Blessed shall be thy basket and thy store.
 
 
Disobedience
        Deuteronomy 28:15 - But it shall come to pass, if thou wilt not hearken unto the voice of JAH thy Abbah, to observe to do all his commandments and his statutes which I command thee this day; that all these curses shall come upon thee, and overtake thee: 16: Cursed shalt thou be in the city, and cursed shalt thou be in the field. 17: Cursed shall be thy basket and thy store. 18: Cursed shall be the fruit of thy body, and the fruit of thy land, the increase of thy kine, and the flocks of thy sheep
 
 
3.    SPIRITUAL PRIORITIES
 
 
The Holy Spirit descended on the day of Pentecost, and the New Testament Assembly was founded on the day of Pentecost (Feast of Firstfruits) (Acts. 2:1-4, 36-47).
 
 
How important is all this to us living in this century? Does it really make any difference to the quality of one抯 spiritual life, or the welfare of this small congregation, whether we keep these Feasts of JAH or not?
 
 
After all, most of us don抰 make our living at agriculture. We don抰 grow wheat or keep sheep. We don抰 keep cattle for milk: neither do any of us keep bees for honey.
 
 
How does this feast of firstfruits affect us? The answer is: these low-level laws all have high-level spiritual meaning.
 
  • We are the soil. We were made from the dust of the earth.
  • Holy spiritual truths (the Words of JAH), the seed of Jah have been sowed in our minds.
  • The Holy Spirit is tending each one of us - with our permission - like a gardener tends his plot or a shepherd his flock.
  • JAH expects us to be producing Holy fruit in thought, word and deed.
    This is the purpose of our salvation.
 
Those ancient commands may not concern us at their low agricultural level: but most certainly they do at their high spiritual level. We are expected to bring forth 慺ruits of the Holy Spirit. Failure to do so will be catastrophic. Consider this parable:
 
 
        Luke 13:6 - He spake also this parable; A certain man had a fig tree planted in his vineyard; and he came and sought fruit thereon, and found none. 7: Then said he unto the dresser of his vineyard, Behold, these three years I come seeking fruit on this fig tree, and find none: cut it down; why cumbereth it the ground? 8: And he answering said unto him, Master, let it alone this year also, till I shall dig about it, and dung it: 9: And if it bear fruit, well: and if not, then after that thou shalt cut it down.
 
 
The meaning of this story is obvious. It needs little or no explanation. A vital clue to the importance of offering the best to JAH is found in what, at first glance, appears to be a misplaced instruction.
 
 
        Exodus 23:19 - The first of the firstfruits of thy land thou shalt bring into the house of JAH thy Abbah. Thou shalt not seethe a kid in his mother抯 milk.
 
 
What has this last sentence about cooking a kid in its mother抯 milk to do with firstfruits? The answer, I suspect, is: offering the first of the firstfruits is as vital to spiritual growth as milk is to a new-born kid. Withholding the best from JAH is tantamount to seething a kid in its mother抯 milk.
 
 
In other words, consuming the very thing (the milk), which was intended to make the kid grow has now been used to cook it. Withholding the firstfruits from JAH, in other words, is fatal. It will kill you in the end. I would say with the wise man:
 
 
        Proverbs 3:9 - Honour JAH with thy substance, and with the firstfruits of all thine increase
 
 
4.    HIGH LEVEL FIRSTFRUITS
 
 
As I stated before, firstfruits come at several levels: farm produce, living beings (believers) and the holy thoughts, words and actions of those believers.
 
 
JAH扴 people are also firstfruits; Individual Believers have the firstfruits of the Holy Spirit to be saved from sin.
 
  • Jeremiah 2:3 - Jahzrael was holiness unto JAH, and the firstfruits of His increase: all that devour him shall offend; evil shall come upon them, saith JAH.
  • Romans 8:21-23 - .And not only they, but our selves also which have the first fruits of the Spirit, even we our selves groan within our selves, waiting for the adoption, to wit, the redemption of our body.
  • James 1:17-18 - Of His own will begat us with the word of truth, that we should be a kind of firstfruits of His creatures.
 
The 144,000 of JAH. The (best) in quality. They are absolutely faultless.
 
         Revelation 14:4 - These are they which follow the Lamb withersoever he goeth. These were redeemed from among men being the firstfruits unto JAH and to the Lamb
 
The disciple Epaenetus
         Romans 16:5 - ... Salute my welbeloved Epaenetus who is the firstfruits of Achaia unto The Messijah.
 
 
5.    SPIRITUAL FRUIT
 
 
To produce a crop one must sow seed. Pause a while and consider that basic agricultural fact. Without sowing there can be no harvest. It is exactly the same in the spiritual realm.
 
 
Sowing to the Spirit
         Proverbs 3:9 - Honour JAH with thy substance and with the firstfruits of all thine increase. So shall thy barns be filled with plenty and thy presses shall burst out with new wine.
 
 
         Galatians 6:7-8 - Be not deceived; JAH is not mocked; for whatsoever a man soweth that shall he also reap. For he that soweth to his flesh shall of the flesh reap corruption. But he that soweth to the Spirit shall of the Spirit reap life everlasting.
 
 
         Galatians 22-26 - But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith, 23: Meekness, temperance: against such there is no law. 24: And they that are The Messijah抯 have crucified the flesh with the affections and lusts. 25: If we live in the Spirit, let us also walk in the Spirit. 26: Let us not be desirous of vain glory, provoking one another, envying one another.
 
 
I would add to this list, qualities such as: mercy, tender-heartedness, kindness, generosity, hospitality, compassion, good judgement, self-sacrifice, a proper sense of humour and the desire for reconciliation etc. If you produce such fruit the Most high will be your friend.
 
 
Sowing to the Flesh
 
Sowing to the flesh is not just committing blatant sin. Sowing to the flesh means sowing in the spirit of error and self-interest. This includes:
 
  • Pride: Thinking better of ourselves like we are not sinners or that we are spiritually more righteous than others. This was the first and most dangerous sin.
  • Greed.
  • Jealousy, envy and secret hate for those around you.
  • Misjudgment. Judging and coming to erroneous conclusions.
  • An unforgiving heart. This can be the case in many people.
 
These seeds produce a harvest of nothing but anger, strive and heartache.
 
 
We as brethren must not have bad feelings about one another, for the Messijah commanded us to love each other.
 
 
         John 13:34-35 - A new commandment I give unto you, That ye love one another; as I have loved you, that ye also love one another. 35 By this shall all men know that ye are my disciples, if ye have love one to another.
 
 
         Galatians 5:14-16 - For all the law is fulfilled in one word, even in this; Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. 15 But if ye bite and devour one another, take heed that ye be not consumed one of another.
 
 
         1 John 2:8-11 - Again, a new commandment I write unto you, which thing is true in him and in you: because the darkness is past, and the true light now shineth. 9 He that saith he is in the light, and hateth his brother, is in darkness even until now. 10 He that loveth his brother, abideth in the light, and there is none occasion of stumbling in him. 11 But he that hateth his brother, is in darkness, and walketh in darkness and knoweth not whither he goeth, because that darkness hath blinded his eyes.
 
 
Today, the Feast of Weeks (Pentecost) reminds the saints that just as Jah sent Moses to deliver the people of Jah from Pharaoh (typical of the devil), likewise, He shall send Jahoshuwah to deliver the saints from this evil Gentile world ruled by the Devil (Exo. 3:7-10; Deut. 18:15; Acts. 3:20-26; Isa. 52:1-15; 54:1-17; 33:22; 14:1-32; Rev. 19:11-16; Ps. 68:4,19-20).
 
 
The Feast of Firstfruits (Pentecost) is primarily about spiritual fruit. I tell you our very lives depend upon the kind of fruit we are producing. Just as we do not expect young children to produce offspring, or young fruit trees to produce fruit, in exactly the same way JAH gives us time to produce spiritual fruit in our lives.
 
 
Remember:
  • We are a kind of firstfruits - all of us.
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  • He is looking for the fruit of the Holy Spirit in our lives. If he finds no good, spiritual fruit, it could end in being hewn down and cast into the fire!
  • We are commanded to put Him first and to bring Him the best.
  • We are recognized by others, believers and unbelievers, by our words and actions. We are known by our fruits.
 
The basket on this table here represents our Assembly. It contains a variety of the best fruit we could find in the locality. Just as these fruits are all different, so too are we different from each other. But you are here, part of this symbolic basket of fruit. By the blood of the Saviour you were brought out of Egypt, out of sin. Why? The answer is - to produce the fruit of the Holy Spirit.
 
 
In the light of these facts let all of us in the Zion Assembly examine ourselves and ask ourselves the question: Am I producing good fruit or evil fruit? That is the question we must address today - on the Feast of Firstfruits.
 
 
Praise Jahshuwah.
 
 


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#102 From: The Community of YAHWEH <yahwehcommunity@...>
Date: Mon Apr 16, 2007 1:45 am
Subject: Re: The Feast of Firstfruits and the Messiah
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Shalom Everyone!
 
Besides the obvious and evident fact that YAHSHUA (YAHWSHUA) The MASHIACH (MESSIYAH) was NOT Born on December 25th ("Christmas"), the Scriptural Study, that I am forwarding here below, ALSO clearly Proves that HE was Born at the time of The Feast of Tabernacles!
 
May our Creator and Father and Supreme Savio(u)r YAHWEH (YHWH) Bless your Insight of HIS Will and Word, The Truth!
 
True Love in HIS Beloved Son and our High Priest and Personal Savio(u)r YAHSHUA (YAHWSHUA) MASHIACH (MESSIYAH),
 
Carlo Tognoni
 
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Following is an excerpt from The Sacred Name Broadcaster.

 
 

The Birth of the Messiah

On Which Day Was The Savior Born?

It is strange to see how many people are disillusioned each year while celebrating Christmas, with the materialism which seems to dampen the Christmas spirit. Concerned ministers and Sunday School teachers repeat frequently the exhortation to restore the scriptural story of the Savior抯 birth to the Christmas observance. This urging goes largely unheeded, however, as the story of our Savior抯 birth is relegated to second position behind the Santa Claus myth. It should be obvious to all who question the trend of the Christmas celebrations of recent years that nothing anyone can say will reverse the course of this observance. The people of our contemporary society seem to delight in celebrating these annual holidays and it is only a relative few who are diligent enough to investigate the facts which are pertinent to understanding the drift which has taken place, especially in recent years. If you have an open mind, let抯 examine these facts and learn if we really should observe the birthday of our Savior as do most people on December 25th each year.

In nominal Christianity we find that all of the doctrines and practices on which the average church member bases his worship are seemingly traced to the Bible. Something is wrong, however, since we find that there is little agreement among various denominations on how the Bible should be applied. In fact, there are some fundamentalist groups in existence today who do not celebrate Christmas, simply because they cannot find it to be commanded in the Scriptures. These groups are few and far between, however, and their witness is almost completely inundated by the determined resistance of the majority of people against departing from inherited tradition.

At the outset of our study it is important that we establish biblical authority to observe birthdays, if we can. The traditional observance of birthdays with the usual cake, candles, and gifts is associated closely with the Christmas observance. First we should ask ourselves if such an observance is commanded in the Word. The answer, upon checking a good concordance, is obvious. Birthdays are mentioned only twice in the Bible, with a possible third occurrence which has been veiled under an awkward translation. None of these instances are related to a biblical command to do so. Conversely, the evidence of what occurred on each of these occasions compels us to conclude that the birthday observance has a rather unpleasant reputation. On each of these recorded scriptural birthday occasions a death occurred, as we may see from reading the context of each of the following passages: Gen. 40:20, Matt. 14:6, and Job 1:4 ("his day" in the Hebrew alludes to the birthday). History reveals that ancient people celebrated birthdays with great pomp and ceremony, as is indicated in the Scriptures also. However, Almighty Yahweh has actually legislated against the observance of birthdays. He has declared in Isaiah 65:11-12, "But ye are they that forsake Yahweh, that forget My holy mountain (His governmental rule), that prepare a table for fortune, and that furnish the drink offering unto that number (Hebrew is "mene"). Therefore will I number (Hebrew is "manithi" from the name of the deity "meni") you to the sword, and ye shall all bow down to the slaughter: because when I called, ye did not answer; when I spake, ye did not hear: but did evil before Mine eyes, and did choose that wherein I delighted not." There was actually an ancient Assyrian deity who was called Manu (Mene). He was worshiped with drink offerings on the birthdays and other anniversaries. Undoubtedly the worship of Mene was the occasion for the account in Daniel chapter 5, and the hand which wrote on the wall used an allusion to this worship to predict the end of Belshazzar抯 kingdom when it wrote, "Mene, Mene, Tekel, Upharsin." To summarize, we must conclude that there is no scriptural commandment to observe birthdays, but in fact it is displeasing to Almighty Yahweh when someone observes them. Incidentally, the usual cake and candles are also derived from pagan worship. Cakes or cookies were offered in worship to the "queen of heaven," Jeremiah 7:17-19. Candles were symbols of phallic worship, and used on special occasions.

Was the birth date of our Savior really on December 25? Your own Bible, and also history, reveals that it was not. When Yahshua the Messiah was born, the shepherds were in the fields keeping watch over their flocks by night, Luke 2:8. During the winter in Palestine the weather often becomes very severe. When the rainy season arrives, several weeks after the Feast of Tabernacles (in September-October), the flocks and herds are brought in for the night, since it would not be pleasant for shepherds or animals to sleep on the cold, wet ground. Actually December 25th corresponds to the Feast of Dedication of John 10:22, which occurred in winter, a time when no shepherds would venture away from their homes and spend a night in the fields.

A second fact, which should convince even the most skeptical person, is the taxation which took Joseph and Miriam to Bethlehem, Luke 2:15. Yahshua the Messiah was born only about 170 years after the War of the Maccabees. This era was a time of great patriotism among the Jews. They had defeated the determined efforts of Antiochus Epiphanes to Hellenize them. Their obstinate patriotism about this same time forced the mighty Roman army to furl and lower its banners before entering Jerusalem. If Rome had ordered a tax census in the middle of winter, they would have been faced with a bitter insurrection and violent rebellion among their Jewish subjects. Simple logic will lead the thinking person to realize that such a tax census could best be conducted with the least amount of disturbance around one of their religious holidays when people are on the move anyway to attend the rites of worship. In addition, the fall of the year, when the crops have just been harvested and the surplus sold, is when money would certainly be more plentiful to pay taxes than it would be in the dead of winter.

Never realizing the importance of understanding the basics of Bible study which are to be found in the Old Testament, the average person reads across some of the most obvious clues which would indicate with certainty on which day our Savior was born. This day can be pinpointed with accuracy on the scriptural calendar and it occurs each year on this special day, although it will not be recognized on the Roman calendar which is in use today.

In order to find the actual birth date of the Messiah, we must begin to read the chronology which is offered by Luke in chapter 1. Our first and most important clue is to be found in verse 5. Zachariah, the father of John the Baptist, was a priest of the course of Abia (AbiYAH). This means that he was a member of the family of Abiyah. When King David made his thorough preparations for the building of the temple, in addition to acquiring the building materials, he also arranged for the orderly conduct of the sacrificial and worship services in the completed sanctuary. He arranged to divide the work among all of the designated people in the tribe of Levi. Among his assignments was the performance of the priestly duties which he divided among the 16 heads of the families of Eleazar, and the 8 heads of the families of Ithamar. This is recorded in 1 Chronicles, chapter 24. After the division of the priestly families had been finished, David selected, by lot, the one family who was to be in charge of the temple worship one week in the spring and one week in the fall of the year. Consequently, the remaining priests were relieved of duty at all other times, with the exception of their commanded attendance at each of the three major feasts of Yahweh, Passover and Unleavened Bread, Pentecost, and Tabernacles, when all males of Israel are obligated to appear, Exodus 23:15-17, etc. You may wish to read additional information which is offered by the historian, Josephus, in Antiquities of the Jews, Book 7, Chapter 14, Sec. 7, in which he describes how each division or course of priests began service each Sabbath, and continued to serve for eight days until the end of the following Sabbath.

Although I may be faced with the charge of working out this chronology on assumptions, the indicator which has been left by the Apostle John can hardly be called insignificant. It is found in John 1:14, where we read, "And the Word was made flesh, and tabernacled (the Greek word here is translated erroneously as dwelt) among us (and we beheld His glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father), full of grace and truth." John could have chosen other words to present his thought had he wished to indicate "dwelt," so it certainly seems of uppermost significance that the word "tabernacled" was chosen, especially since the way markers lead us to this Holy Day commanded observance of Yahweh. In Colossians 2:16 we learn that the holy days are shadows of things to come. Since a Hebrew baby was to be circumcised at the age of eight days (Gen. 17:9-14), this day of entering into the covenant would correspond exactly to the Last Great Day of the Feast, John 7:37 and Leviticus 23:36. This Last Great Day is an extra special day in the scriptural calendar. It is called a solemn assembly in Numbers 29:35, leading to the definition of the Hebrew root Awtzar as "restraint." It is the day when our Savior revealed that all men would have access to the Holy Spirit (John 7:37-39), when all men (who so desire) will be living in righteousness, the symbol of circumcision, Gal. 6:15 and Romans 2:25-29. The sacrifice law of the Feast of Tabernacles, as found in Numbers 29:12-34, reveals that diminishing sacrifices were offered each day of the Feast, until finally, on the last day, only minimal sacrifices were presented, showing, when someone had reached that last day, he should have reached the type of Spiritual perfection.

The question is often asked, "In which year was the Savior born?" History reveals that He must have been born earlier than 4 B.C.E., since this was the year that King Herod died. Various conclusions can be reached concerning which year His birth actually occurred, from 7 to 5 B.C.E. Again allow me to reiterate that it is not imperative that we know the exact year since we are not commanded to observe His birthday.

Each year at the Christmas season, the masses of contemporary society frantically observe a phantom holiday. The holiday which they are observing is not the birthday of the Savior, but the celebration of the Roman Saturnalia, and Brumalia, the day of natalis solis invicti (birthday of the unconquerable sun). Since we can prove that the Messiah was not born at the winter solstice, should we continue to live a lie and observe a day which has come down to us through paganism? Should we merge pagan customs, such as a tree, the Santa Claus, the yule log, with scriptural Truth? I trust that you will join me in a resounding cry of rejection of these pagan customs, as we witness this hidden Truth with power to a lost and deceived world.

 

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Grace and Peace to all,
 
As I said in my former post, today Sunday April 15th is the Feast of Weeks/  Firstfruits/ Pentecost.
 
 
JAH扴 Annual Holy days are regular days of the week, which no work, other than the preparation of food, should be undertaken.
 
 
        Exodus 12:16 And in the first day there shall be an holy convocation, and in the seventh day there shall be an holy convocation to you; no manner of work shall be done in them, save that which every man must eat, that only may be done of you.
 
 
A holy convocation, incidentally, is a commanded assembly, which means 慶ompulsory attendance. This means that unless you抮e working in some life-saving job, where failure to work could result in someone dying (i.e. doctors, nurses, ambulance or fire services etc.) attendance at these holy convocations is compulsory!
 
 
The Most High抯 Feasts are days of rejoicing in that they celebrate His mightiest acts in the Programme of Salvation.
 
 
        Ezra 6:22 - And kept the feast of unleavened bread seven days with joy: for JAH had made them joyful, and turned the heart of the king of Assyria unto them, to strengthen their hands in the work of the house of JAH, the JAH of Israel.
 
 
        Nehemiah 8:10 - Then he said unto them, Go your way, eat the fat, and drink the sweet, and send portions unto them for whom nothing is prepared: for this day is holy unto our JAH: neither be ye sorry; for the joy of JAH is your strength.
 
 
        Deuteronomy 14:24-26 - 24: And if the way be too long for thee, so that thou art not able to carry it; or if the place be too far from thee, which JAH thy Maker shall choose to set his name there, when JAH thy Maker hath blessed thee: 25: Then shalt thou turn it into money, and bind up the money in thine hand, and shalt go unto the place which JAH thy Maker shall choose: 26: And thou shalt bestow that money for whatsoever thy soul lusteth after, for oxen, or for sheep, or for wine, or for strong drink, or for whatsoever thy soul desireth and thou shalt eat there before JAH thy Maker, and thou shalt rejoice, thou, and thine household.
 
Even in the future Jah will have His wonderful feasts full of the choicest of things.
 
 
        Isaiah 25:6 - And in this mountain shall JAH of Hosts make unto all people a feast of fat things, a feast of wines on the lees, of fat things full of marrow, of wines on the lees well refined.
 
Festival Seasons
 
JAH扴 commands concerning His three festival seasons are as follows:
 
 
        Exodus 23:14-17 - 14 Three times thou shalt keep a feast unto me in the year. 15: Thou shalt keep the feast of unleavened bread: (thou shalt eat unleavened bread seven days, as I commanded thee, in the time appointed of the month Abib; for in it thou camest out from Egypt: and none shall appear before me empty:) 16: And the feast of harvest, the firstfruits of thy labours, which thou hast sown in the field: and the feast of ingathering, which is in the end of the year, when thou hast gathered in thy labours out of the field. 17: Three times in the year all thy males shall appear before the Almighty JAH.
 
 
The Feast of Pentecost was originally called the Feast of Firstfruits or the Feast of Weeks. This harvest festival occurs 50 days after the waving of the sheaf, which occurs on the first day of the week. The waving of the Sheaf is after the 7th day of the Passover week. The 7th day of the Passover week is always a Sabbath. 
 
 
The Feast of Weeks means, seven weeks to the 50th day (Pentecost).
 
 

        Leviticus 23:15-16 And ye shall count unto you from the morrow after the sabbath, from the day that ye brought the sheaf of the wave offering; seven sabbaths shall be complete: 16 Even unto the morrow after the seventh sabbath shall ye number fifty days; and ye shall offer a new meat offering unto JAH

 
 
  • Deuteronomy 16:9-10 - Seven weeks shalt thou number unto thee: begin to number the seven weeks from such time as thou beginnest to put the sickle to the corn. 10 And thou shalt keep the feast of weeks unto JAH thy Maker with a tribute of a freewill offering of thine hand, which thou shalt give unto the Adoni thy Jah, according as JAH thy Maker hat blessed thee:
 
The Feast of weeks is supposed to be a time of Rejoicing before Jah
 
        Deuteronomy 16:11 - And thou shalt rejoice, before JAH thy Maker, thou, and thy son, and thy daughter, and thy manservant, and thy maidservant, and the Levite that is within thy gates, and the stranger, and the fatherless, and the widow, that are among you, in the place which JAH thy Maker hath chosen to place his name there.
 
 
Two Wave Loaves
 
The 50th day counting from the Sheaf is the conclusion of the Spring Grain Harvest; on this 50th day (Pentecost) Jah is honoured with the firstfruits represented by the two Wave Loaves.
 
 
Besides the sacrifice of certain animals, two loaves of leavened bread were offered to JAH at the Feast of Firstfruits, which the priest waves before Jah. These represented the first fruits of the wheat harvest from the field.
 
 
On a higher level the loaves of bread represent purified believers. They are now holy people, dedicated solely for priestly use. Sacrificed animals, most Believers know, represent Jahoshuwah the Messijah; but finely ground flour, fruit and incense represent the holiness and prayers of the people of the Most High. This is typical of Jah抯 firstfruits/ people that are to be harvested and offered to Jah at the Messijah抯 second coming (Rev. 14:14-16; Heb 9:28).
 
 
        Leviticus 23:17-20 - Ye shall bring out of your habitations two wave loaves of two tenth deals: they shall be of fine flour; they shall be baken with leaven; they are the firstfruits unto JAH.
18: And ye shall offer with the bread seven lambs without blemish of the first year, and one young bullock, and two rams: they shall be for a burnt offering unto JAH, with their meat offering, and their drink offerings, even an offering made by fire, of sweet savour unto JAH. 19: Then ye shall sacrifice one kid of the goats for a sin offering, and two lambs of the first year for a sacrifice of peace offerings. 20: And the priest shall wave them with the bread of the firstfruits for a wave offering before JAH, with the two lambs: they shall be holy to JAH for the priest
 
 
A Basket of Fruit
 
The Firstfruits (Pentecost) Festival is to remind the saints throughout all generations, that Jah killed the first born of the Egyptians (type of present wicked world) both of man and beast, and redeemed His first born (Jahzrael) by his mighty hand (Exo. 4:22-23; 12:29; 13:15-16).
 
 
In addition to the young bullock, the rams, the lambs and the loaves, during the harvest season individual Jahzraelites were required to bring a 慴asket of fruit to the Most High: and they were commanded to enact the following drama.
 
 
        Deuteronomy 26:1-11- And it shall be, when thou art come in unto the land which JAH thy Abbah giveth thee for an inheritance, and possessest it, and dwellest therein; 2: That thou shalt take of the first of all the fruit of the earth, which thou shalt bring of thy land that JAH thy Abbah giveth thee, and shalt put it in a basket, and shalt go unto the place which JAH thy Abbah shall choose to place his name there. 3: And thou shalt go unto the priest that shall be in those days, and say unto him, I profess this day unto JAH thy Abbah, that I am come unto the country which JAH sware unto our fathers for to give us. 4: And the priest shall take the basket out of thine hand, and set it down before the altar of JAH thy Abbah. 5: And thou shalt speak and say before JAH thy Abbah, A Syrian ready to perish was my father, and he went down into Egypt, and sojourned there with a few, and became there a nation, great, mighty, and populous: 6: And the Egyptians evil entreated us, and afflicted us, and laid upon us hard bondage: 7: And when we cried unto the Almighty JAH of our fathers, JAH heard our voice, and looked on our affliction, and our labour, and our oppression: 8: And JAH brought us forth out of Egypt with a mighty hand, and with an outstretched arm, and with great terribleness, and with signs, and with wonders: 9: And he hath brought us into this place, and hath given us this land, even a land that floweth with milk and honey. 10: And now, behold, I have brought the firstfruits of the land, which thou, O JAH, hast given me. And thou shalt set it before JAH thy Abbah, and worship before JAH thy Abbah: 11: And thou shalt rejoice in every good thing which JAH thy Abbah hath given unto thee, and unto thine house, thou, and the Levite, and the stranger that is among you.
 
 
Notice in Hosea 12:12, that 揓acob fled into the country of Syria (Assyria) and served for a wife, see also, Genesis 29:10-35; 30:1-26.
 
 
The basket of fruit was symbolic of the spiritual fruit Jahzrael抯 JAH would produce in the lives of His people after He had rescued them from the slavery of sin. More about this fact later.
 
 
Without delay
 
There are a few points concerning firstfruits that we should note. They are mentioned in the following commands:
 
        Exodus 22:29 - Thou shalt not delay to offer the first of thy ripe fruits, and of thy liquors: the firstborn of thy sons shalt thou give unto me.
 
The Best
        Numbers 18:12 - All the best of the oil, and all the best of the wine, and of the wheat, the firstfruits of them which they shall offer unto JAH, them have I given thee.
 
 
1.    Jahshuwah抯 Birth, the First of the Firstfruits
 
The Ben (Son) of Jah that was promised to us was given to us in the year 4202 (A.D 2) on the day of the Feast of Firstfruits.
 
 

        Isaiah 7:14 - Therefore JAH Himself shall give you a sign; Behold, a virgin shall conceive, and bear a son, and shall call His name Immanuel.

 

 

        Isaiah 9:6-7 - For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon His shoulder: and His name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The Mighty Jah, The Everlasting Abbah, The Prince of Peace. 7 Of the increase of His government and peace there shall be no end, upon the throne of David, and upon His kingdom, to order it, and to establish it with judgment and with justice from henceforth even for ever. The Zeal of the JAH of Hosts will perform this.

 
 
The virgin Mariam (Mary) gave birth to Jahshuwah on the day of Pentecost in a manger, because there was no room for her and her husband in the inn.
 
 
  • Luke 2:7 - And she brought forth her firstborn son, and wrapped him in swaddling clothes, and laid him in a manger; because there was no room for them in the inn.
 
This was as a result of the flood of Jews that came from several nations to be registered along with those who came to celebrate Pentecost in Jerusalem, which filled all the accommodations in nearby towns including Bethlehem of Judah (Acts. 2:5-11).
 
  • Luke 2:10-11 And unto you is born this day in the city of David a Saviour, which is the Messijah the Adoni. 11 And this shall be a sign unto you; Ye shall find the babe wrapped in swaddling clothes, lying in a manger.
 
The Master Jahshuwah is the first born of His family. He is the first- fruit of the firstfruits (Jahzrael), and He shall redeem His people. The Feast of Firstfruits is the Messiah抯 birthday. Therefore, when we (the firstfruit saints) are celebrating Pentecost in this present time, we are celebrating our 揝aviour抯 birth.
 
 
JAH扴 only begotten Son is the first fruit; the fruit of His own body.
  • Colossians 1:15 - Who is the image of the invisible JAH, the firstborn of every creature.
  • 1 Corinthians 15:20, 23 - But now is The Messijah risen from the dead and become the firstfruits of them that slept.23 But every man in his own order. The Messijah the First fruits, afterward they that are the Messijahs, at his coming.
 
Jahoshuwah is 搕he author and finisher of our faith, and He has led us to Mount Zion, and unto the city of the living Jah
 
 
  • Hebrews 12:2 - Looking unto Jahoshuwah the author and finisher of our faith; who for the joy that was set before him endured the crucifixion, despising the shame, and is set down at the right hand of the throne of Jah.
 
He has led us to the 揾eavenly Jerusalem, and to an 搃nnumerable company of Angels, so let us cleave to that great 揝hepherd that was given to us on the day of Pentecost (Heb. 12:22-29; 13:20)
 
 
2.    BLESSING / CURSING
 
 
At their highest level, and I抦 not meaning the symbolic level of animal sacrifices and the waving of loaves of bread, the laws of the Most High are living, active and eternal laws. Like the laws of thermodynamics or the law of gravity, they are in operation at this very moment and the better we understand and obey them the better it will be for us.
 
 
In short, if you do what the Almighty JAH says, you will be blessed. But break His commands and they will break you. This fact is detailed in Deuteronomy chapter 28. I will quote a few verses concerning the results of obedience and disobedience.
 
 
Obedience
        Deuteronomy 28:1 - And it shall come to pass, if thou shalt hearken diligently unto the voice of JAH thy Abbah, to observe and to do all his commandments which I command thee this day, that JAH thy Abbah will set thee on high above all nations of the earth: 2: And all these blessings shall come on thee, and overtake thee, if thou shalt hearken unto the voice of JAH thy Abbah. 3: Blessed shalt thou be in the city, and blessed shalt thou be in the field. 4: Blessed shall be the fruit of thy body, and the fruit of thy ground, and the fruit of thy cattle, the increase of thy kine, and the flocks of thy sheep. 5: Blessed shall be thy basket and thy store.
 
 
Disobedience
        Deuteronomy 28:15 - But it shall come to pass, if thou wilt not hearken unto the voice of JAH thy Abbah, to observe to do all his commandments and his statutes which I command thee this day; that all these curses shall come upon thee, and overtake thee: 16: Cursed shalt thou be in the city, and cursed shalt thou be in the field. 17: Cursed shall be thy basket and thy store. 18: Cursed shall be the fruit of thy body, and the fruit of thy land, the increase of thy kine, and the flocks of thy sheep
 
 
3.    SPIRITUAL PRIORITIES
 
 
The Holy Spirit descended on the day of Pentecost, and the New Testament Assembly was founded on the day of Pentecost (Feast of Firstfruits) (Acts. 2:1-4, 36-47).
 
 
How important is all this to us living in this century? Does it really make any difference to the quality of one抯 spiritual life, or the welfare of this small congregation, whether we keep these Feasts of JAH or not?
 
 
After all, most of us don抰 make our living at agriculture. We don抰 grow wheat or keep sheep. We don抰 keep cattle for milk: neither do any of us keep bees for honey.
 
 
How does this feast of firstfruits affect us? The answer is: these low-level laws all have high-level spiritual meaning.
 
  • We are the soil. We were made from the dust of the earth.
  • Holy spiritual truths (the Words of JAH), the seed of Jah have been sowed in our minds.
  • The Holy Spirit is tending each one of us - with our permission - like a gardener tends his plot or a shepherd his flock.
  • JAH expects us to be producing Holy fruit in thought, word and deed.
    This is the purpose of our salvation.
 
Those ancient commands may not concern us at their low agricultural level: but most certainly they do at their high spiritual level. We are expected to bring forth 慺ruits of the Holy Spirit. Failure to do so will be catastrophic. Consider this parable:
 
 
        Luke 13:6 - He spake also this parable; A certain man had a fig tree planted in his vineyard; and he came and sought fruit thereon, and found none. 7: Then said he unto the dresser of his vineyard, Behold, these three years I come seeking fruit on this fig tree, and find none: cut it down; why cumbereth it the ground? 8: And he answering said unto him, Master, let it alone this year also, till I shall dig about it, and dung it: 9: And if it bear fruit, well: and if not, then after that thou shalt cut it down.
 
 
The meaning of this story is obvious. It needs little or no explanation. A vital clue to the importance of offering the best to JAH is found in what, at first glance, appears to be a misplaced instruction.
 
 
        Exodus 23:19 - The first of the firstfruits of thy land thou shalt bring into the house of JAH thy Abbah. Thou shalt not seethe a kid in his mother抯 milk.
 
 
What has this last sentence about cooking a kid in its mother抯 milk to do with firstfruits? The answer, I suspect, is: offering the first of the firstfruits is as vital to spiritual growth as milk is to a new-born kid. Withholding the best from JAH is tantamount to seething a kid in its mother抯 milk.
 
 
In other words, consuming the very thing (the milk), which was intended to make the kid grow has now been used to cook it. Withholding the firstfruits from JAH, in other words, is fatal. It will kill you in the end. I would say with the wise man:
 
 
        Proverbs 3:9 - Honour JAH with thy substance, and with the firstfruits of all thine increase
 
 
4.    HIGH LEVEL FIRSTFRUITS
 
 
As I stated before, firstfruits come at several levels: farm produce, living beings (believers) and the holy thoughts, words and actions of those believers.
 
 
JAH扴 people are also firstfruits; Individual Believers have the firstfruits of the Holy Spirit to be saved from sin.
 
  • Jeremiah 2:3 - Jahzrael was holiness unto JAH, and the firstfruits of His increase: all that devour him shall offend; evil shall come upon them, saith JAH.
  • Romans 8:21-23 - .And not only they, but our selves also which have the first fruits of the Spirit, even we our selves groan within our selves, waiting for the adoption, to wit, the redemption of our body.
  • James 1:17-18 - Of His own will begat us with the word of truth, that we should be a kind of firstfruits of His creatures.
 
The 144,000 of JAH. The (best) in quality. They are absolutely faultless.
 
         Revelation 14:4 - These are they which follow the Lamb withersoever he goeth. These were redeemed from among men being the firstfruits unto JAH and to the Lamb
 
The disciple Epaenetus
         Romans 16:5 - ... Salute my welbeloved Epaenetus who is the firstfruits of Achaia unto The Messijah.
 
 
5.    SPIRITUAL FRUIT
 
 
To produce a crop one must sow seed. Pause a while and consider that basic agricultural fact. Without sowing there can be no harvest. It is exactly the same in the spiritual realm.
 
 
Sowing to the Spirit
         Proverbs 3:9 - Honour JAH with thy substance and with the firstfruits of all thine increase. So shall thy barns be filled with plenty and thy presses shall burst out with new wine.
 
 
         Galatians 6:7-8 - Be not deceived; JAH is not mocked; for whatsoever a man soweth that shall he also reap. For he that soweth to his flesh shall of the flesh reap corruption. But he that soweth to the Spirit shall of the Spirit reap life everlasting.
 
 
         Galatians 22-26 - But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith, 23: Meekness, temperance: against such there is no law. 24: And they that are The Messijah抯 have crucified the flesh with the affections and lusts. 25: If we live in the Spirit, let us also walk in the Spirit. 26: Let us not be desirous of vain glory, provoking one another, envying one another.
 
 
I would add to this list, qualities such as: mercy, tender-heartedness, kindness, generosity, hospitality, compassion, good judgement, self-sacrifice, a proper sense of humour and the desire for reconciliation etc. If you produce such fruit the Most high will be your friend.
 
 
Sowing to the Flesh
 
Sowing to the flesh is not just committing blatant sin. Sowing to the flesh means sowing in the spirit of error and self-interest. This includes:
 
  • Pride: Thinking better of ourselves like we are not sinners or that we are spiritually more righteous than others. This was the first and most dangerous sin.
  • Greed.
  • Jealousy, envy and secret hate for those around you.
  • Misjudgment. Judging and coming to erroneous conclusions.
  • An unforgiving heart. This can be the case in many people.
 
These seeds produce a harvest of nothing but anger, strive and heartache.
 
 
We as brethren must not have bad feelings about one another, for the Messijah commanded us to love each other.
 
 
         John 13:34-35 - A new commandment I give unto you, That ye love one another; as I have loved you, that ye also love one another. 35 By this shall all men know that ye are my disciples, if ye have love one to another.
 
 
         Galatians 5:14-16 - For all the law is fulfilled in one word, even in this; Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. 15 But if ye bite and devour one another, take heed that ye be not consumed one of another.
 
 
         1 John 2:8-11 - Again, a new commandment I write unto you, which thing is true in him and in you: because the darkness is past, and the true light now shineth. 9 He that saith he is in the light, and hateth his brother, is in darkness even until now. 10 He that loveth his brother, abideth in the light, and there is none occasion of stumbling in him. 11 But he that hateth his brother, is in darkness, and walketh in darkness and knoweth not whither he goeth, because that darkness hath blinded his eyes.
 
 
Today, the Feast of Weeks (Pentecost) reminds the saints that just as Jah sent Moses to deliver the people of Jah from Pharaoh (typical of the devil), likewise, He shall send Jahoshuwah to deliver the saints from this evil Gentile world ruled by the Devil (Exo. 3:7-10; Deut. 18:15; Acts. 3:20-26; Isa. 52:1-15; 54:1-17; 33:22; 14:1-32; Rev. 19:11-16; Ps. 68:4,19-20).
 
 
The Feast of Firstfruits (Pentecost) is primarily about spiritual fruit. I tell you our very lives depend upon the kind of fruit we are producing. Just as we do not expect young children to produce offspring, or young fruit trees to produce fruit, in exactly the same way JAH gives us time to produce spiritual fruit in our lives.
 
 
Remember:
  • We are a kind of firstfruits - all of us.
  •  
  • He is looking for the fruit of the Holy Spirit in our lives. If he finds no good, spiritual fruit, it could end in being hewn down and cast into the fire!
  • We are commanded to put Him first and to bring Him the best.
  • We are recognized by others, believers and unbelievers, by our words and actions. We are known by our fruits.
 
The basket on this table here represents our Assembly. It contains a variety of the best fruit we could find in the locality. Just as these fruits are all different, so too are we different from each other. But you are here, part of this symbolic basket of fruit. By the blood of the Saviour you were brought out of Egypt, out of sin. Why? The answer is - to produce the fruit of the Holy Spirit.
 
 
In the light of these facts let all of us in the Zion Assembly examine ourselves and ask ourselves the question: Am I producing good fruit or evil fruit? That is the question we must address today - on the Feast of Firstfruits.
 
 
Praise Jahshuwah.
 
 


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#104 From: YHWHPeople@...
Date: Mon Apr 16, 2007 3:35 am
Subject: Re: The Feast of Firstfruits and the Messiah
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I challenge anyone to find a feast/Chag mentioned in the 3rd month for a 3rd month Pentecost. I challenge anyone to even find a wheat harvest in the 3rd month for a 3rd month Pentecost.
 
Here are some of my notes on what the Scripture teaches is the true count to Pentecost, which is 50 days 鈥渁fter鈥 the 7th Sabbath complete, not 50 days after the wave sheaf or 1st Sabbath (Lev-23:16) 16Even unto the morrow 鈥after鈥 the seventh sabbath shall ye number fifty days; and ye shall offer a new meat offering unto鈥   NOT before.
 
It makes no difference how we think a verse of Scripture should be understood and interpreted but how the Holy men of old understood and interpreted the verse, and this is true with Leviticus 23:16 where it says, 鈥渆ven unto the morrow 鈥渁fter鈥 the seventh Sabbath shall ye number 50 days and ye shall offer a new meat offering unto YHWH.鈥
 
 
When considering the correct understanding and interpretation of Leviticus 23:16, whether we should number 50 days from the wave sheaf or number 50 days AFTER the seventh Sabbath, we should consider the following questions.  One interpretation puts Pentecost in the beginning of the third month and the other interpretation puts Pentecost at the end of the fourth month.
 
 So not counting the Scripture in question, let's consider the following which will show that there's NOT even a feast in the third month for a third month Pentecost, also it will show that there is NOT even a harvest in the third month for a third month Pentecost feast and that the Law was NOT even giving to Moses in the third month to commemorate Pentecost,
 
 
Questions and Answers
 
Q: Is there a 鈥third month feast mentioned anywhere in Scripture?
 A: No.  I challenge anyone to find only one.
 
     Q: Is there a 鈥fourth鈥 month feast mentioned in Scripture?
 A: Yes -Exodus 32:5 YHWH鈥橲 High Priest proclaimed it. 
 
     Q: Was this feast one of the 3 Chag feast of the year?
 A: Yes-the Hebrew word feast is Chag in Exodus 32:5.
 
     Q: Was it at the end of the 4th month?
 A: Yes, and it was exactly 50 days after the seventh 鈥淟unar鈥 Sabbath complete.
 
     Q: Would this count work with the traditional Saturday Sabbath?
 A: No, you would have two extra days because of the new moon days which are not counted in counting out Lunar weeks.
 
     Q: If there is not a third month feasts in Scripture, does the Scripture say to prove all things?
 A: Yes - 1 Thessalonians 5:21.
 
     Q: If no 3rd month feast can be found in Scripture, where did the traditional Pentecost feast come from?
  A: Traditions of man.
 
 
I could stop here or even at the first question 鈥淚s there a 鈥third month feast mentioned anywhere in Scripture?鈥 and it should be more than enough to convince any honest hearted person who wants to know the truth, to take a second look at their doctrine, but I will continue on with more questions and answers for those who wants to know the truth.
 
     Q: If we cannot find a 3rd month feast in Scripture for a third month Pentecost, can we find a wheat harvest in the third month?
 A: No, the only conclusive wheat harvest found in Scripture is summer wheat harvest which is in the fourth month. Proverbs 10:5, Proverbs 26:1, Isaiah 18:4-6, Jeremiah 8: 20, Jeremiah 40: 10 -12, Jeremiah 48: 32, Daniel 2:35, Amos 8: 1-5, Micah 7:1
 
        Q: Does aNo鈥 3rd month feast and a No鈥 3rd month wheat harvest equal (=) aNo鈥 third month Pentecost?
 A: Yes, a no third month feast and a no third month wheat harvest equal's a no third month Pentecost unless you're following the traditions of men.
 
Q: Was the Old Testament Scripture written for our example?
 A: Yes - 1 Corinthians 10:6-11.
 
    
    Q: If there are no examples of a third month feast 鈥渙r鈥 a third month wheat harvest, why should we keep a third month Pentecost?
 A: We should not keep a third month Pentecost for the obvious reasons above.
 
 
I could probably stop here because I have shown where there was no feast in the third month, no wheat harvest in the third month, Etc. now I will show there was no Law giving in the third month and I believe Pentecost commemorates the giving of the Law so I will give a few more questions and answers.
 
    Q: Was the Law given in the third month?
A: No,
 
    Q: Was the Law given in the fourth month?
A: Yes, Ex-31:18, Deut-9:11
 
 
 
   Q: Can Ex-19:1 be understood that Moses came to the Mount on the same day they went forth out of Egypt?
A: Yes, and at the end of 40 days and 40 nights in the mount would be the end of the 4th month, and the day that the Law was given to Moses and the same day that Aaron said was a Chag/FEAST to YHWH/Pentecost it was also 50 days AFTER the 7th Lunar Sabbath complete.
 
 
    Q: Is there any History where anyone counted 50 days AFTER the seventh Sabbath Complete to keep Pentecost?
A: Yes, Philo shows that the 50th day count to Pentecost 鈥渂egins鈥 the morrow 鈥淎FTER鈥 the seventh Sabbath complete NOT from the wave sheaf, and therefore the 50th day after the WAVE SHEAF is NOT Pentecost BUT was observed by some zealous Jews as a Prelude or kind of forefeast to Pentecost.
Below are plain instructions from men that lived at that time, which show that the 50th day is counted from the day 鈥after鈥 the seventh Sabbath complete.
Quoting from Philo The Special Laws 11 page 584, chapter 30 (176)
鈥淭HE SEVENTH FESTIVAL
XXX. (176) The 鈥渟olemn assembly鈥 on the occasion of the 鈥渇estival鈥 of the sheaf having such great privileges, is the 鈥減relude鈥 to 鈥渁nother鈥 festival of still 鈥済reater importance鈥; for from 鈥渢his day鈥 the 鈥渇iftieth day鈥 is reckoned, making up the sacred number of seven sevens, with the addition of a 鈥渦nit鈥 as a seal to the whole; and this festival, being that of the first fruits of the corn, has derived its name of Pentecost from the number of 鈥渇ifty,鈥

From the above we see they kept the 16th of the 1st month as a feast and solemn assembly when they waved the sheaf and it was called a 鈥減relude鈥 (or introduction) to 鈥淎NOTHER鈥 feast that was 鈥渕ore important鈥 than the 鈥渇irst鈥 feast/16th that was held on the 16th (Why?) because it was from 鈥渢his feast鈥 that the 50th day is reckoned which consists of seven sevens plus one which equals 50 which means Pentecost. (How much plainer can it get?????)
 
This 2nd feast that is more important than the 1st feast, or 16th, is the morrow after the seventh Sabbath complete and is the day that people are keeping for the traditional Pentecost, but according to chapter 30 above it is the feast that is 鈥済reater鈥 than that of the 鈥渨ave sheaf鈥 feast because the 50th day is reckoned from it, (the greater feast) and Pentecost is the 鈥淕REATEST鈥 feast. This is in harmony with Lev-23 where it says 鈥渆ven unto the morrow AFTER the seventh Sabbath shall you number fifty days and then bring a new meat offering鈥.
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I could stop here but I will add one more proof found in nature of a 4th month Pentecost.  The true Pentecost ALWAYS had ripe grapes present
    
Even on the day of Pentecost when they were being accused of being drunk with "new" wine, which is not found in the third month for the traditional Pentecost because it is Agriculturally imposable  and in the book of Acts, Peter said this is that it was spoken by the prophet Joel and when you look at the prophet Joel you see where he said that the floors would be full of wheat and the fats full of wine.  Once again there is no new wine in the third month to fulfill this prophecy. Please Click the link above. There is too much proof for me to mention here but you can Click on the link below and you will see how Paul kept Pentecost beyond the traditional Pentecost count and how it must be at the Years turning, i.e. you have 1 feast in the spring, 1 in the summer, and 1 in the fall instead if 2 in the spring, NONE in the summer and 1 in the fall.
 
 
Brother Arnold
 
 
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Shalom Everyone!
 
This year, THE TRUE PENTECOST, The Feast of Sabbaths (Weeks), that is The Feast of Summer Harvest (Grain / Wheat), at or near to Summer Solstice Time (Numbers 28:26), The 50th Day After Seven Sabbaths (Weeks) From The Wave Sheaf Offering, After The First Month, "Abib" / "Aviv", The Month of "Green Ears of Barley", counting Seven Sabbaths (Weeks), beginning from the time it begins to put the sickle to the standing grain (Deuteronomy 16:9), from the day it's brought the sheaf of the wave offering, when it's reap the harvest (Leviticus 23:9-16), will be "sunday June 24, 2007"!
May our Creator and Father and Supreme Savio(u)r YAHWEH / YHWH Bless your Insight of HIS Will and Word, The Truth!
 
True Love in HIS Beloved Son and our High Priest and Personal Savio(u)r YAHSHUA / YAHWSHUA The MASHIACH / MESSIYAH!
 
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Subject: [TheTrueCommunity] The Feast of Firstfruits and the Messiah

Grace and Peace to all,
 
As I said in my former post, today Sunday April 15th is the Feast of Weeks/  Firstfruits/ Pentecost.
 
 
JAH鈥橲 Annual Holy days are regular days of the week, which no work, other than the preparation of food, should be undertaken.
 
 
        Exodus 12:16 鈥 And in the first day there shall be an holy convocation, and in the seventh day there shall be an holy convocation to you; no manner of work shall be done in them, save that which every man must eat, that only may be done of you.
 
 
A holy convocation, incidentally, is a commanded assembly, which means 鈥榗ompulsory attendance.鈥 This means that unless you鈥檙e working in some life-saving job, where failure to work could result in someone dying (i.e. doctors, nurses, ambulance or fire services etc.) attendance at these holy convocations is compulsory!
 
 
The Most High鈥檚 Feasts are days of rejoicing in that they celebrate His mightiest acts in the Programme of Salvation.
 
 
        Ezra 6:22 - And kept the feast of unleavened bread seven days with joy: for JAH had made them joyful, and turned the heart of the king of Assyria unto them, to strengthen their hands in the work of the house of JAH, the JAH of Israel.
 
 
        Nehemiah 8:10 - Then he said unto them, Go your way, eat the fat, and drink the sweet, and send portions unto them for whom nothing is prepared: for this day is holy unto our JAH: neither be ye sorry; for the joy of JAH is your strength.
 
 
        Deuteronomy 14:24-26 - 24: And if the way be too long for thee, so that thou art not able to carry it; or if the place be too far from thee, which JAH thy Maker shall choose to set his name there, when JAH thy Maker hath blessed thee: 25: Then shalt thou turn it into money, and bind up the money in thine hand, and shalt go unto the place which JAH thy Maker shall choose: 26: And thou shalt bestow that money for whatsoever thy soul lusteth after, for oxen, or for sheep, or for wine, or for strong drink, or for whatsoever thy soul desireth and thou shalt eat there before JAH thy Maker, and thou shalt rejoice, thou, and thine household.
 
Even in the future Jah will have His wonderful feasts full of the choicest of things.
 
 
        Isaiah 25:6 - And in this mountain shall JAH of Hosts make unto all people a feast of fat things, a feast of wines on the lees, of fat things full of marrow, of wines on the lees well refined.
 
Festival Seasons
 
JAH鈥橲 commands concerning His three festival seasons are as follows:
 
 
        Exodus 23:14-17 - 14 Three times thou shalt keep a feast unto me in the year. 15: Thou shalt keep the feast of unleavened bread: (thou shalt eat unleavened bread seven days, as I commanded thee, in the time appointed of the month Abib; for in it thou camest out from Egypt: and none shall appear before me empty:) 16: And the feast of harvest, the firstfruits of thy labours, which thou hast sown in the field: and the feast of ingathering, which is in the end of the year, when thou hast gathered in thy labours out of the field. 17: Three times in the year all thy males shall appear before the Almighty JAH.
 
 
The Feast of Pentecost was originally called the Feast of Firstfruits or the Feast of Weeks. This harvest festival occurs 50 days after the waving of the sheaf, which occurs on the first day of the week. The waving of the Sheaf is after the 7th day of the Passover week. The 7th day of the Passover week is always a Sabbath. 
 
 
The Feast of Weeks means, seven weeks to the 50th day (Pentecost).
 
 

        Leviticus 23:15-16 鈥 And ye shall count unto you from the morrow after the sabbath, from the day that ye brought the sheaf of the wave offering; seven sabbaths shall be complete: 16 Even unto the morrow after the seventh sabbath shall ye number fifty days; and ye shall offer a new meat offering unto JAH

 
 
  • Deuteronomy 16:9-10 - Seven weeks shalt thou number unto thee: begin to number the seven weeks from such time as thou beginnest to put the sickle to the corn. 10 And thou shalt keep the feast of weeks unto JAH thy Maker with a tribute of a freewill offering of thine hand, which thou shalt give unto the Adoni thy Jah, according as JAH thy Maker hat blessed thee:
 
The Feast of weeks is supposed to be a time of Rejoicing before Jah鈥
 
        Deuteronomy 16:11 - And thou shalt rejoice, before JAH thy Maker, thou, and thy son, and thy daughter, and thy manservant, and thy maidservant, and the Levite that is within thy gates, and the stranger, and the fatherless, and the widow, that are among you, in the place which JAH thy Maker hath chosen to place his name there.
 
 
Two Wave Loaves
 
The 50th day counting from the Sheaf is the conclusion of the Spring Grain Harvest; on this 50th day (Pentecost) Jah is honoured with the firstfruits represented by the two Wave Loaves.
 
 
Besides the sacrifice of certain animals, two loaves of leavened bread were offered to JAH at the Feast of Firstfruits, which the priest waves before Jah. These represented the first fruits of the wheat harvest from the field.
 
 
On a higher level the loaves of bread represent purified believers. They are now holy people, dedicated solely for priestly use. Sacrificed animals, most Believers know, represent Jahoshuwah the Messijah; but finely ground flour, fruit and incense represent the holiness and prayers of the people of the Most High. This is typical of Jah鈥檚 firstfruits/ people that are to be harvested and offered to Jah at the Messijah鈥檚 second coming (Rev. 14:14-16; Heb 9:28).
 
 
        Leviticus 23:17-20 - Ye shall bring out of your habitations two wave loaves of two tenth deals: they shall be of fine flour; they shall be baken with leaven; they are the firstfruits unto JAH.
18: And ye shall offer with the bread seven lambs without blemish of the first year, and one young bullock, and two rams: they shall be for a burnt offering unto JAH, with their meat offering, and their drink offerings, even an offering made by fire, of sweet savour unto JAH. 19: Then ye shall sacrifice one kid of the goats for a sin offering, and two lambs of the first year for a sacrifice of peace offerings. 20: And the priest shall wave them with the bread of the firstfruits for a wave offering before JAH, with the two lambs: they shall be holy to JAH for the priest
 
 
A Basket of Fruit
 
The Firstfruits (Pentecost) Festival is to remind the saints throughout all generations, that Jah killed the first born of the Egyptians (type of present wicked world) both of man and beast, and redeemed His first born (Jahzrael) by his mighty hand (Exo. 4:22-23; 12:29; 13:15-16).
 
 
In addition to the young bullock, the rams, the lambs and the loaves, during the harvest season individual Jahzraelites were required to bring a 鈥榖asket of fruit鈥 to the Most High: and they were commanded to enact the following drama.
 
 
        Deuteronomy 26:1-11- And it shall be, when thou art come in unto the land which JAH thy Abbah giveth thee for an inheritance, and possessest it, and dwellest therein; 2: That thou shalt take of the first of all the fruit of the earth, which thou shalt bring of thy land that JAH thy Abbah giveth thee, and shalt put it in a basket, and shalt go unto the place which JAH thy Abbah shall choose to place his name there. 3: And thou shalt go unto the priest that shall be in those days, and say unto him, I profess this day unto JAH thy Abbah, that I am come unto the country which JAH sware unto our fathers for to give us. 4: And the priest shall take the basket out of thine hand, and set it down before the altar of JAH thy Abbah. 5: And thou shalt speak and say before JAH thy Abbah, A Syrian ready to perish was my father, and he went down into Egypt, and sojourned there with a few, and became there a nation, great, mighty, and populous: 6: And the Egyptians evil entreated us, and afflicted us, and laid upon us hard bondage: 7: And when we cried unto the Almighty JAH of our fathers, JAH heard our voice, and looked on our affliction, and our labour, and our oppression: 8: And JAH brought us forth out of Egypt with a mighty hand, and with an outstretched arm, and with great terribleness, and with signs, and with wonders: 9: And he hath brought us into this place, and hath given us this land, even a land that floweth with milk and honey. 10: And now, behold, I have brought the firstfruits of the land, which thou, O JAH, hast given me.鈥 And thou shalt set it before JAH thy Abbah, and worship before JAH thy Abbah: 11: And thou shalt rejoice in every good thing which JAH thy Abbah hath given unto thee, and unto thine house, thou, and the Levite, and the stranger that is among you.
 
 
Notice in Hosea 12:12, that 鈥淛acob fled into the country of Syria (Assyria) and served for a wife,鈥 see also, Genesis 29:10-35; 30:1-26.
 
 
The basket of fruit was symbolic of the spiritual fruit Jahzrael鈥檚 JAH would produce in the lives of His people after He had rescued them from the slavery of sin. More about this fact later.
 
 
Without delay
 
There are a few points concerning firstfruits that we should note. They are mentioned in the following commands:
 
        Exodus 22:29 - Thou shalt not delay to offer the first of thy ripe fruits, and of thy liquors: the firstborn of thy sons shalt thou give unto me.
 
The Best
        Numbers 18:12 - All the best of the oil, and all the best of the wine, and of the wheat, the firstfruits of them which they shall offer unto JAH, them have I given thee.
 
 
1.    Jahshuwah鈥檚 Birth, the First of the Firstfruits
 
The Ben (Son) of Jah that was promised to us was given to us in the year 4202 (A.D 2) on the day of the Feast of Firstfruits.
 
 

        Isaiah 7:14 - Therefore JAH Himself shall give you a sign; Behold, a virgin shall conceive, and bear a son, and shall call His name Immanuel.

 

 

        Isaiah 9:6-7 - For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon His shoulder: and His name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The Mighty Jah, The Everlasting Abbah, The Prince of Peace. 7 Of the increase of His government and peace there shall be no end, upon the throne of David, and upon His kingdom, to order it, and to establish it with judgment and with justice from henceforth even for ever. The Zeal of the JAH of Hosts will perform this.

 
 
The virgin Mariam (Mary) gave birth to Jahshuwah on the day of Pentecost in a manger, because there was no room for her and her husband in the inn.
 
 
  • Luke 2:7 - And she brought forth her firstborn son, and wrapped him in swaddling clothes, and laid him in a manger; because there was no room for them in the inn.
 
This was as a result of the flood of Jews that came from several nations to be registered along with those who came to celebrate Pentecost in Jerusalem, which filled all the accommodations in nearby towns including Bethlehem of Judah (Acts. 2:5-11).
 
  • Luke 2:10-11And unto you is born this day in the city of David a Saviour, which is the Messijah the Adoni. 11 And this shall be a sign unto you; Ye shall find the babe wrapped in swaddling clothes, lying in a manger.
 
The Master Jahshuwah is the first born of His family. He is the first- fruit of the firstfruits (Jahzrael), and He shall redeem His people. The Feast of Firstfruits is the Messiah鈥檚 birthday. Therefore, when we (the firstfruit saints) are celebrating Pentecost in this present time, we are celebrating our 鈥淪aviour鈥檚 birth鈥.
 
 
JAH鈥橲 only begotten Son is the first fruit; the fruit of His own body.
  • Colossians 1:15 - Who is the image of the invisible JAH, the firstborn of every creature.
  • 1 Corinthians 15:20, 23 - But now is The Messijah risen from the dead and become the firstfruits of them that slept鈥.23 But every man in his own order. The Messijah the First fruits, afterward they that are the Messijahs, at his coming.
 
Jahoshuwah is 鈥渢he author and finisher of our faith鈥, and He has led us to Mount Zion, and unto the city of the living Jah
 
 
  • Hebrews 12:2 - Looking unto Jahoshuwah the author and finisher of our faith; who for the joy that was set before him endured the crucifixion, despising the shame, and is set down at the right hand of the throne of Jah.
 
He has led us to the 鈥渉eavenly Jerusalem鈥, and to an 鈥渋nnumerable company of Angels鈥, so let us cleave to that great 鈥淪hepherd鈥 that was given to us on the day of Pentecost (Heb. 12:22-29; 13:20)
 
 
2.    BLESSING / CURSING
 
 
At their highest level, and I鈥檓 not meaning the symbolic level of animal sacrifices and the waving of loaves of bread, the laws of the Most High are living, active and eternal laws. Like the laws of thermodynamics or the law of gravity, they are in operation at this very moment and the better we understand and obey them the better it will be for us.
 
 
In short, if you do what the Almighty JAH says, you will be blessed. But break His commands and they will break you. This fact is detailed in Deuteronomy chapter 28. I will quote a few verses concerning the results of obedience and disobedience.
 
 
Obedience
        Deuteronomy 28:1 - And it shall come to pass, if thou shalt hearken diligently unto the voice of JAH thy Abbah, to observe and to do all his commandments which I command thee this day, that JAH thy Abbah will set thee on high above all nations of the earth: 2: And all these blessings shall come on thee, and overtake thee, if thou shalt hearken unto the voice of JAH thy Abbah. 3: Blessed shalt thou be in the city, and blessed shalt thou be in the field. 4: Blessed shall be the fruit of thy body, and the fruit of thy ground, and the fruit of thy cattle, the increase of thy kine, and the flocks of thy sheep. 5: Blessed shall be thy basket and thy store.
 
 
Disobedience
        Deuteronomy 28:15 - But it shall come to pass, if thou wilt not hearken unto the voice of JAH thy Abbah, to observe to do all his commandments and his statutes which I command thee this day; that all these curses shall come upon thee, and overtake thee: 16: Cursed shalt thou be in the city, and cursed shalt thou be in the field. 17: Cursed shall be thy basket and thy store. 18: Cursed shall be the fruit of thy body, and the fruit of thy land, the increase of thy kine, and the flocks of thy sheep
 
 
3.    SPIRITUAL PRIORITIES
 
 
The Holy Spirit descended on the day of Pentecost, and the New Testament Assembly was founded on the day of Pentecost (Feast of Firstfruits) (Acts. 2:1-4, 36-47).
 
 
How important is all this to us living in this century? Does it really make any difference to the quality of one鈥檚 spiritual life, or the welfare of this small congregation, whether we keep these Feasts of JAH or not?
 
 
After all, most of us don鈥檛 make our living at agriculture. We don鈥檛 grow wheat or keep sheep. We don鈥檛 keep cattle for milk: neither do any of us keep bees for honey.
 
 
How does this feast of firstfruits affect us? The answer is: these low-level laws all have high-level spiritual meaning.
 
  • We are the soil. We were made from the dust of the earth.
  • Holy spiritual truths (the Words of JAH), the seed of Jah have been sowed in our minds.
  • The Holy Spirit is tending each one of us - with our permission - like a gardener tends his plot or a shepherd his flock.
  • JAH expects us to be producing Holy fruit in thought, word and deed.
    This is the purpose of our salvation.
 
Those ancient commands may not concern us at their low agricultural level: but most certainly they do at their high spiritual level. We are expected to bring forth 鈥榝ruits of the Holy Spirit.鈥 Failure to do so will be catastrophic. Consider this parable:
 
 
        Luke 13:6 - He spake also this parable; A certain man had a fig tree planted in his vineyard; and he came and sought fruit thereon, and found none. 7: Then said he unto the dresser of his vineyard, Behold, these three years I come seeking fruit on this fig tree, and find none: cut it down; why cumbereth it the ground? 8: And he answering said unto him, Master, let it alone this year also, till I shall dig about it, and dung it: 9: And if it bear fruit, well: and if not, then after that thou shalt cut it down.
 
 
The meaning of this story is obvious. It needs little or no explanation. A vital clue to the importance of offering the best to JAH is found in what, at first glance, appears to be a misplaced instruction.
 
 
        Exodus 23:19 - The first of the firstfruits of thy land thou shalt bring into the house of JAH thy Abbah. Thou shalt not seethe a kid in his mother鈥檚 milk.
 
 
What has this last sentence about cooking a kid in its mother鈥檚 milk to do with firstfruits? The answer, I suspect, is: offering the first of the firstfruits is as vital to spiritual growth as milk is to a new-born kid. Withholding the best from JAH is tantamount to seething a kid in its mother鈥檚 milk.
 
 
In other words, consuming the very thing (the milk), which was intended to make the kid grow has now been used to cook it. Withholding the firstfruits from JAH, in other words, is fatal. It will kill you in the end. I would say with the wise man:
 
 
        Proverbs 3:9 - Honour JAH with thy substance, and with the firstfruits of all thine increase
 
 
4.    HIGH LEVEL FIRSTFRUITS
 
 
As I stated before, firstfruits come at several levels: farm produce, living beings (believers) and the holy thoughts, words and actions of those believers.
 
 
JAH鈥橲 people are also firstfruits; Individual Believers have the firstfruits of the Holy Spirit to be saved from sin.
 
  • Jeremiah 2:3 - Jahzrael was holiness unto JAH, and the firstfruits of His increase: all that devour him shall offend; evil shall come upon them, saith JAH.
  • Romans 8:21-23 - 鈥.And not only they, but our selves also which have the first fruits of the Spirit, even we our selves groan within our selves, waiting for the adoption, to wit, the redemption of our body.
  • James 1:17-18 - Of His own will begat us with the word of truth, that we should be a kind of firstfruits of His creatures.
 
The 144,000 of JAH. The (best) in quality. They are absolutely faultless.
 
         Revelation 14:4 -These are they which follow the Lamb withersoever he goeth. These were redeemed from among men being the firstfruits unto JAH and to the Lamb
 
The disciple Epaenetus
         Romans 16:5 - ... Salute my welbeloved Epaenetus who is the firstfruits of Achaia unto The Messijah.
 
 
5.    SPIRITUAL FRUIT
 
 
To produce a crop one must sow seed. Pause a while and consider that basic agricultural fact. Without sowing there can be no harvest. It is exactly the same in the spiritual realm.
 
 
Sowing to the Spirit
         Proverbs 3:9 - Honour JAH with thy substance and with the firstfruits of all thine increase. So shall thy barns be filled with plenty and thy presses shall burst out with new wine.
 
 
         Galatians 6:7-8 - Be not deceived; JAH is not mocked; for whatsoever a man soweth that shall he also reap. For he that soweth to his flesh shall of the flesh reap corruption. But he that soweth to the Spirit shall of the Spirit reap life everlasting.
 
 
         Galatians 22-26 - But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith, 23: Meekness, temperance: against such there is no law. 24: And they that are The Messijah鈥檚 have crucified the flesh with the affections and lusts. 25: If we live in the Spirit, let us also walk in the Spirit. 26: Let us not be desirous of vain glory, provoking one another, envying one another.
 
 
I would add to this list, qualities such as: mercy, tender-heartedness, kindness, generosity, hospitality, compassion, good judgement, self-sacrifice, a proper sense of humour and the desire for reconciliation etc. If you produce such fruit the Most high will be your friend.
 
 
Sowing to the Flesh
 
Sowing to the flesh is not just committing blatant sin. Sowing to the flesh means sowing in the spirit of error and self-interest. This includes:
 
  • Pride: Thinking better of ourselves like we are not sinners or that we are spiritually more righteous than others. This was the first and most dangerous sin.
  • Greed.
  • Jealousy, envy and secret hate for those around you.
  • Misjudgment. Judging and coming to erroneous conclusions.
  • An unforgiving heart. This can be the case in many people.
 
These seeds produce a harvest of nothing but anger, strive and heartache.
 
 
We as brethren must not have bad feelings about one another, for the Messijah commanded us to love each other.
 
 
         John 13:34-35 - A new commandment I give unto you, That ye love one another; as I have loved you, that ye also love one another. 35 By this shall all men know that ye are my disciples, if ye have love one to another.
 
 
         Galatians 5:14-16 - For all the law is fulfilled in one word, even in this; Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. 15 But if ye bite and devour one another, take heed that ye be not consumed one of another.
 
 
         1 John 2:8-11 - Again, a new commandment I write unto you, which thing is true in him and in you: because the darkness is past, and the true light now shineth. 9 He that saith he is in the light, and hateth his brother, is in darkness even until now. 10 He that loveth his brother, abideth in the light, and there is none occasion of stumbling in him. 11 But he that hateth his brother, is in darkness, and walketh in darkness and knoweth not whither he goeth, because that darkness hath blinded his eyes.
 
 
Today, the Feast of Weeks (Pentecost) reminds the saints that just as Jah sent Moses to deliver the people of Jah from Pharaoh (typical of the devil), likewise, He shall send Jahoshuwah to deliver the saints from this evil Gentile world ruled by the Devil (Exo. 3:7-10; Deut. 18:15; Acts. 3:20-26; Isa. 52:1-15; 54:1-17; 33:22; 14:1-32; Rev. 19:11-16; Ps. 68:4,19-20).
 
 
The Feast of Firstfruits (Pentecost) is primarily about spiritual fruit. I tell you our very lives depend upon the kind of fruit we are producing. Just as we do not expect young children to produce offspring, or young fruit trees to produce fruit, in exactly the same way JAH gives us time to produce spiritual fruit in our lives.
 
 
Remember:
  • We are a kind of firstfruits - all of us.
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  • He is looking for the fruit of the Holy Spirit in our lives. If he finds no good, spiritual fruit, it could end in being hewn down and cast into the fire!
  • We are commanded to put Him first and to bring Him the best.
  • We are recognized by others, believers and unbelievers, by our words and actions. We are known by our fruits.
 
The basket on this table here represents our Assembly. It contains a variety of the best fruit we could find in the locality. Just as these fruits are all different, so too are we different from each other. But you are here, part of this symbolic basket of fruit. By the blood of the Saviour you were brought out of Egypt, out of sin. Why? The answer is - to produce the fruit of the Holy Spirit.
 
 
In the light of these facts let all of us in the Zion Assembly examine ourselves and ask ourselves the question: Am I producing good fruit or evil fruit? That is the question we must address today - on the Feast of Firstfruits.
 
 
Praise Jahshuwah.
 
 


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#105 From: The Community of YAHWEH <yahwehcommunity@...>
Date: Mon Apr 16, 2007 5:05 am
Subject: Re: The Feast of Firstfruits and the Messiah
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Shalom Brother Arnold!
 
Even if for different Scriptural reasons than yours, I came to your SAME conclusion that The Pentecost is NOT on the 3rd Scriptural month, but on the 4th Scriptural month, on the Day after the Sabbath closer to the Summer Solsitce (late in "June"), being the Feast of Firstfruit of the Summer Wheat Harvest.
 
May our Creator and Father and Supreme Savio(u)r YAHWEH (YHWH) Bless your Insight of HIS Will and Word, The Truth!
 
True Love in HIS Beloved Son and our High Priest and Personal Savio(u)r YAHSHUA (YAHWSHUA) MESSIYAH (MASHIACH),
 
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I challenge anyone to find a feast/Chag mentioned in the 3rd month for a 3rd month Pentecost. I challenge anyone to even find a wheat harvest in the 3rd month for a 3rd month Pentecost.
 
Here are some of my notes on what the Scripture teaches is the true count to Pentecost, which is 50 days 揳fter the 7th Sabbath complete, not 50 days after the wave sheaf or 1st Sabbath (Lev-23:16) 16Even unto the morrow after the seventh sabbath shall ye number fifty days; and ye shall offer a new meat offering unto   NOT before.
 
It makes no difference how we think a verse of Scripture should be understood and interpreted but how the Holy men of old understood and interpreted the verse, and this is true with Leviticus 23:16 where it says, 揺ven unto the morrow 揳fter the seventh Sabbath shall ye number 50 days and ye shall offer a new meat offering unto YHWH.
 
 
When considering the correct understanding and interpretation of Leviticus 23:16, whether we should number 50 days from the wave sheaf or number 50 days AFTER the seventh Sabbath, we should consider the following questions.  One interpretation puts Pentecost in the beginning of the third month and the other interpretation puts Pentecost at the end of the fourth month.
 
 So not counting the Scripture in question, let's consider the following which will show that there's NOT even a feast in the third month for a third month Pentecost, also it will show that there is NOT even a harvest in the third month for a third month Pentecost feast and that the Law was NOT even giving to Moses in the third month to commemorate Pentecost,
 
 
Questions and Answers
 
Q: Is there a third month feast mentioned anywhere in Scripture?
 A: No.  I challenge anyone to find only one.
 
     Q: Is there a fourth month feast mentioned in Scripture?
 A: Yes -Exodus 32:5 YHWH扴 High Priest proclaimed it. 
 
     Q: Was this feast one of the 3 Chag feast of the year?
 A: Yes-the Hebrew word feast is Chag in Exodus 32:5.
 
     Q: Was it at the end of the 4th month?
 A: Yes, and it was exactly 50 days after the seventh 揕unar Sabbath complete.
 
     Q: Would this count work with the traditional Saturday Sabbath?
 A: No, you would have two extra days because of the new moon days which are not counted in counting out Lunar weeks.
 
     Q: If there is not a third month feasts in Scripture, does the Scripture say to prove all things?
 A: Yes - 1 Thessalonians 5:21.
 
     Q: If no 3rd month feast can be found in Scripture, where did the traditional Pentecost feast come from?
  A: Traditions of man.
 
 
I could stop here or even at the first question 揑s there a third month feast mentioned anywhere in Scripture? and it should be more than enough to convince any honest hearted person who wants to know the truth, to take a second look at their doctrine, but I will continue on with more questions and answers for those who wants to know the truth.
 
     Q: If we cannot find a 3rd month feast in Scripture for a third month Pentecost, can we find a wheat harvest in the third month?
 A: No, the only conclusive wheat harvest found in Scripture is summer wheat harvest which is in the fourth month. Proverbs 10:5, Proverbs 26:1, Isaiah 18:4-6, Jeremiah 8: 20, Jeremiah 40: 10 -12, Jeremiah 48: 32, Daniel 2:35, Amos 8: 1-5, Micah 7:1
 
        Q: Does a No 3rd month feast and a No 3rd month wheat harvest equal (=) a No third month Pentecost?
 A: Yes, a no third month feast and a no third month wheat harvest equal's a no third month Pentecost unless you're following the traditions of men.
 
Q: Was the Old Testament Scripture written for our example?
 A: Yes - 1 Corinthians 10:6-11.
 
    
    Q: If there are no examples of a third month feast 搊r a third month wheat harvest, why should we keep a third month Pentecost?
 A: We should not keep a third month Pentecost for the obvious reasons above.
 
 
I could probably stop here because I have shown where there was no feast in the third month, no wheat harvest in the third month, Etc. now I will show there was no Law giving in the third month and I believe Pentecost commemorates the giving of the Law so I will give a few more questions and answers.
 
    Q: Was the Law given in the third month?
A: No,
 
    Q: Was the Law given in the fourth month?
A: Yes, Ex-31:18, Deut-9:11
 
 
 
   Q: Can Ex-19:1 be understood that Moses came to the Mount on the same day they went forth out of Egypt?
A: Yes, and at the end of 40 days and 40 nights in the mount would be the end of the 4th month, and the day that the Law was given to Moses and the same day that Aaron said was a Chag/FEAST to YHWH/Pentecost it was also 50 days AFTER the 7th Lunar Sabbath complete.
 
 
    Q: Is there any History where anyone counted 50 days AFTER the seventh Sabbath Complete to keep Pentecost?
A: Yes, Philo shows that the 50th day count to Pentecost 揵egins the morrow 揂FTER the seventh Sabbath complete NOT from the wave sheaf, and therefore the 50th day after the WAVE SHEAF is NOT Pentecost BUT was observed by some zealous Jews as a Prelude or kind of forefeast to Pentecost.
Below are plain instructions from men that lived at that time, which show that the 50th day is counted from the day after the seventh Sabbath complete.
Quoting from Philo The Special Laws 11 page 584, chapter 30 (176)
揟HE SEVENTH FESTIVAL
XXX. (176) The 搒olemn assembly on the occasion of the 揻estival of the sheaf having such great privileges, is the 損relude to 揳nother festival of still 揼reater importance; for from 搕his day the 揻iftieth day is reckoned, making up the sacred number of seven sevens, with the addition of a 搖nit as a seal to the whole; and this festival, being that of the first fruits of the corn, has derived its name of Pentecost from the number of 揻ifty,

From the above we see they kept the 16th of the 1st month as a feast and solemn assembly when they waved the sheaf and it was called a 損relude (or introduction) to 揂NOTHER feast that was 搈ore important than the 揻irst feast/16th that was held on the 16th (Why?) because it was from 搕his feast that the 50th day is reckoned which consists of seven sevens plus one which equals 50 which means Pentecost. (How much plainer can it get?????)
 
This 2nd feast that is more important than the 1st feast, or 16th, is the morrow after the seventh Sabbath complete and is the day that people are keeping for the traditional Pentecost, but according to chapter 30 above it is the feast that is 揼reater than that of the 搘ave sheaf feast because the 50th day is reckoned from it, (the greater feast) and Pentecost is the 揋REATEST feast. This is in harmony with Lev-23 where it says 揺ven unto the morrow AFTER the seventh Sabbath shall you number fifty days and then bring a new meat offering.
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I could stop here but I will add one more proof found in nature of a 4th month Pentecost.  The true Pentecost ALWAYS had ripe grapes present
    
Even on the day of Pentecost when they were being accused of being drunk with "new" wine, which is not found in the third month for the traditional Pentecost because it is Agriculturally imposable  and in the book of Acts, Peter said this is that it was spoken by the prophet Joel and when you look at the prophet Joel you see where he said that the floors would be full of wheat and the fats full of wine.  Once again there is no new wine in the third month to fulfill this prophecy. Please Click the link above. There is too much proof for me to mention here but you can Click on the link below and you will see how Paul kept Pentecost beyond the traditional Pentecost count and how it must be at the Years turning, i.e. you have 1 feast in the spring, 1 in the summer, and 1 in the fall instead if 2 in the spring, NONE in the summer and 1 in the fall.
 
 
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Shalom Everyone!
 
This year, THE TRUE PENTECOST, The Feast of Sabbaths (Weeks), that is The Feast of Summer Harvest (Grain / Wheat), at or near to Summer Solstice Time (Numbers 28:26), The 50th Day After Seven Sabbaths (Weeks) From The Wave Sheaf Offering, After The First Month, "Abib" / "Aviv", The Month of "Green Ears of Barley", counting Seven Sabbaths (Weeks), beginning from the time it begins to put the sickle to the standing grain (Deuteronomy 16:9), from the day it's brought the sheaf of the wave offering, when it's reap the harvest (Leviticus 23:9-16), will be "sunday June 24, 2007"!
May our Creator and Father and Supreme Savio(u)r YAHWEH / YHWH Bless your Insight of HIS Will and Word, The Truth!
 
True Love in HIS Beloved Son and our High Priest and Personal Savio(u)r YAHSHUA / YAHWSHUA The MASHIACH / MESSIYAH!
 
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Grace and Peace to all,
 
As I said in my former post, today Sunday April 15th is the Feast of Weeks/  Firstfruits/ Pentecost.
 
 
JAH扴 Annual Holy days are regular days of the week, which no work, other than the preparation of food, should be undertaken.
 
 
        Exodus 12:16 And in the first day there shall be an holy convocation, and in the seventh day there shall be an holy convocation to you; no manner of work shall be done in them, save that which every man must eat, that only may be done of you.
 
 
A holy convocation, incidentally, is a commanded assembly, which means 慶ompulsory attendance. This means that unless you抮e working in some life-saving job, where failure to work could result in someone dying (i.e. doctors, nurses, ambulance or fire services etc.) attendance at these holy convocations is compulsory!
 
 
The Most High抯 Feasts are days of rejoicing in that they celebrate His mightiest acts in the Programme of Salvation.
 
 
        Ezra 6:22 - And kept the feast of unleavened bread seven days with joy: for JAH had made them joyful, and turned the heart of the king of Assyria unto them, to strengthen their hands in the work of the house of JAH, the JAH of Israel.
 
 
        Nehemiah 8:10 - Then he said unto them, Go your way, eat the fat, and drink the sweet, and send portions unto them for whom nothing is prepared: for this day is holy unto our JAH: neither be ye sorry; for the joy of JAH is your strength.
 
 
        Deuteronomy 14:24-26 - 24: And if the way be too long for thee, so that thou art not able to carry it; or if the place be too far from thee, which JAH thy Maker shall choose to set his name there, when JAH thy Maker hath blessed thee: 25: Then shalt thou turn it into money, and bind up the money in thine hand, and shalt go unto the place which JAH thy Maker shall choose: 26: And thou shalt bestow that money for whatsoever thy soul lusteth after, for oxen, or for sheep, or for wine, or for strong drink, or for whatsoever thy soul desireth and thou shalt eat there before JAH thy Maker, and thou shalt rejoice, thou, and thine household.
 
Even in the future Jah will have His wonderful feasts full of the choicest of things.
 
 
        Isaiah 25:6 - And in this mountain shall JAH of Hosts make unto all people a feast of fat things, a feast of wines on the lees, of fat things full of marrow, of wines on the lees well refined.
 
Festival Seasons
 
JAH扴 commands concerning His three festival seasons are as follows:
 
 
        Exodus 23:14-17 - 14 Three times thou shalt keep a feast unto me in the year. 15: Thou shalt keep the feast of unleavened bread: (thou shalt eat unleavened bread seven days, as I commanded thee, in the time appointed of the month Abib; for in it thou camest out from Egypt: and none shall appear before me empty:) 16: And the feast of harvest, the firstfruits of thy labours, which thou hast sown in the field: and the feast of ingathering, which is in the end of the year, when thou hast gathered in thy labours out of the field. 17: Three times in the year all thy males shall appear before the Almighty JAH.
 
 
The Feast of Pentecost was originally called the Feast of Firstfruits or the Feast of Weeks. This harvest festival occurs 50 days after the waving of the sheaf, which occurs on the first day of the week. The waving of the Sheaf is after the 7th day of the Passover week. The 7th day of the Passover week is always a Sabbath. 
 
 
The Feast of Weeks means, seven weeks to the 50th day (Pentecost).
 
 

        Leviticus 23:15-16 And ye shall count unto you from the morrow after the sabbath, from the day that ye brought the sheaf of the wave offering; seven sabbaths shall be complete: 16 Even unto the morrow after the seventh sabbath shall ye number fifty days; and ye shall offer a new meat offering unto JAH

 
 
  • Deuteronomy 16:9-10 - Seven weeks shalt thou number unto thee: begin to number the seven weeks from such time as thou beginnest to put the sickle to the corn. 10 And thou shalt keep the feast of weeks unto JAH thy Maker with a tribute of a freewill offering of thine hand, which thou shalt give unto the Adoni thy Jah, according as JAH thy Maker hat blessed thee:
 
The Feast of weeks is supposed to be a time of Rejoicing before Jah
 
        Deuteronomy 16:11 - And thou shalt rejoice, before JAH thy Maker, thou, and thy son, and thy daughter, and thy manservant, and thy maidservant, and the Levite that is within thy gates, and the stranger, and the fatherless, and the widow, that are among you, in the place which JAH thy Maker hath chosen to place his name there.
 
 
Two Wave Loaves
 
The 50th day counting from the Sheaf is the conclusion of the Spring Grain Harvest; on this 50th day (Pentecost) Jah is honoured with the firstfruits represented by the two Wave Loaves.
 
 
Besides the sacrifice of certain animals, two loaves of leavened bread were offered to JAH at the Feast of Firstfruits, which the priest waves before Jah. These represented the first fruits of the wheat harvest from the field.
 
 
On a higher level the loaves of bread represent purified believers. They are now holy people, dedicated solely for priestly use. Sacrificed animals, most Believers know, represent Jahoshuwah the Messijah; but finely ground flour, fruit and incense represent the holiness and prayers of the people of the Most High. This is typical of Jah抯 firstfruits/ people that are to be harvested and offered to Jah at the Messijah抯 second coming (Rev. 14:14-16; Heb 9:28).
 
 
        Leviticus 23:17-20 - Ye shall bring out of your habitations two wave loaves of two tenth deals: they shall be of fine flour; they shall be baken with leaven; they are the firstfruits unto JAH.
18: And ye shall offer with the bread seven lambs without blemish of the first year, and one young bullock, and two rams: they shall be for a burnt offering unto JAH, with their meat offering, and their drink offerings, even an offering made by fire, of sweet savour unto JAH. 19: Then ye shall sacrifice one kid of the goats for a sin offering, and two lambs of the first year for a sacrifice of peace offerings. 20: And the priest shall wave them with the bread of the firstfruits for a wave offering before JAH, with the two lambs: they shall be holy to JAH for the priest
 
 
A Basket of Fruit
 
The Firstfruits (Pentecost) Festival is to remind the saints throughout all generations, that Jah killed the first born of the Egyptians (type of present wicked world) both of man and beast, and redeemed His first born (Jahzrael) by his mighty hand (Exo. 4:22-23; 12:29; 13:15-16).
 
 
In addition to the young bullock, the rams, the lambs and the loaves, during the harvest season individual Jahzraelites were required to bring a 慴asket of fruit to the Most High: and they were commanded to enact the following drama.
 
 
        Deuteronomy 26:1-11- And it shall be, when thou art come in unto the land which JAH thy Abbah giveth thee for an inheritance, and possessest it, and dwellest therein; 2: That thou shalt take of the first of all the fruit of the earth, which thou shalt bring of thy land that JAH thy Abbah giveth thee, and shalt put it in a basket, and shalt go unto the place which JAH thy Abbah shall choose to place his name there. 3: And thou shalt go unto the priest that shall be in those days, and say unto him, I profess this day unto JAH thy Abbah, that I am come unto the country which JAH sware unto our fathers for to give us. 4: And the priest shall take the basket out of thine hand, and set it down before the altar of JAH thy Abbah. 5: And thou shalt speak and say before JAH thy Abbah, A Syrian ready to perish was my father, and he went down into Egypt, and sojourned there with a few, and became there a nation, great, mighty, and populous: 6: And the Egyptians evil entreated us, and afflicted us, and laid upon us hard bondage: 7: And when we cried unto the Almighty JAH of our fathers, JAH heard our voice, and looked on our affliction, and our labour, and our oppression: 8: And JAH brought us forth out of Egypt with a mighty hand, and with an outstretched arm, and with great terribleness, and with signs, and with wonders: 9: And he hath brought us into this place, and hath given us this land, even a land that floweth with milk and honey. 10: And now, behold, I have brought the firstfruits of the land, which thou, O JAH, hast given me. And thou shalt set it before JAH thy Abbah, and worship before JAH thy Abbah: 11: And thou shalt rejoice in every good thing which JAH thy Abbah hath given unto thee, and unto thine house, thou, and the Levite, and the stranger that is among you.
 
 
Notice in Hosea 12:12, that 揓acob fled into the country of Syria (Assyria) and served for a wife, see also, Genesis 29:10-35; 30:1-26.
 
 
The basket of fruit was symbolic of the spiritual fruit Jahzrael抯 JAH would produce in the lives of His people after He had rescued them from the slavery of sin. More about this fact later.
 
 
Without delay
 
There are a few points concerning firstfruits that we should note. They are mentioned in the following commands:
 
        Exodus 22:29 - Thou shalt not delay to offer the first of thy ripe fruits, and of thy liquors: the firstborn of thy sons shalt thou give unto me.
 
The Best
        Numbers 18:12 - All the best of the oil, and all the best of the wine, and of the wheat, the firstfruits of them which they shall offer unto JAH, them have I given thee.
 
 
1.    Jahshuwah抯 Birth, the First of the Firstfruits
 
The Ben (Son) of Jah that was promised to us was given to us in the year 4202 (A.D 2) on the day of the Feast of Firstfruits.
 
 

        Isaiah 7:14 - Therefore JAH Himself shall give you a sign; Behold, a virgin shall conceive, and bear a son, and shall call His name Immanuel.

 

 

        Isaiah 9:6-7 - For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon His shoulder: and His name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The Mighty Jah, The Everlasting Abbah, The Prince of Peace. 7 Of the increase of His government and peace there shall be no end, upon the throne of David, and upon His kingdom, to order it, and to establish it with judgment and with justice from henceforth even for ever. The Zeal of the JAH of Hosts will perform this.

 
 
The virgin Mariam (Mary) gave birth to Jahshuwah on the day of Pentecost in a manger, because there was no room for her and her husband in the inn.
 
 
  • Luke 2:7 - And she brought forth her firstborn son, and wrapped him in swaddling clothes, and laid him in a manger; because there was no room for them in the inn.
 
This was as a result of the flood of Jews that came from several nations to be registered along with those who came to celebrate Pentecost in Jerusalem, which filled all the accommodations in nearby towns including Bethlehem of Judah (Acts. 2:5-11).
 
  • Luke 2:10-11 And unto you is born this day in the city of David a Saviour, which is the Messijah the Adoni. 11 And this shall be a sign unto you; Ye shall find the babe wrapped in swaddling clothes, lying in a manger.
 
The Master Jahshuwah is the first born of His family. He is the first- fruit of the firstfruits (Jahzrael), and He shall redeem His people. The Feast of Firstfruits is the Messiah抯 birthday. Therefore, when we (the firstfruit saints) are celebrating Pentecost in this present time, we are celebrating our 揝aviour抯 birth.
 
 
JAH扴 only begotten Son is the first fruit; the fruit of His own body.
  • Colossians 1:15 - Who is the image of the invisible JAH, the firstborn of every creature.
  • 1 Corinthians 15:20, 23 - But now is The Messijah risen from the dead and become the firstfruits of them that slept.23 But every man in his own order. The Messijah the First fruits, afterward they that are the Messijahs, at his coming.
 
Jahoshuwah is 搕he author and finisher of our faith, and He has led us to Mount Zion, and unto the city of the living Jah
 
 
  • Hebrews 12:2 - Looking unto Jahoshuwah the author and finisher of our faith; who for the joy that was set before him endured the crucifixion, despising the shame, and is set down at the right hand of the throne of Jah.
 
He has led us to the 揾eavenly Jerusalem, and to an 搃nnumerable company of Angels, so let us cleave to that great 揝hepherd that was given to us on the day of Pentecost (Heb. 12:22-29; 13:20)
 
 
2.    BLESSING / CURSING
 
 
At their highest level, and I抦 not meaning the symbolic level of animal sacrifices and the waving of loaves of bread, the laws of the Most High are living, active and eternal laws. Like the laws of thermodynamics or the law of gravity, they are in operation at this very moment and the better we understand and obey them the better it will be for us.
 
 
In short, if you do what the Almighty JAH says, you will be blessed. But break His commands and they will break you. This fact is detailed in Deuteronomy chapter 28. I will quote a few verses concerning the results of obedience and disobedience.
 
 
Obedience
        Deuteronomy 28:1 - And it shall come to pass, if thou shalt hearken diligently unto the voice of JAH thy Abbah, to observe and to do all his commandments which I command thee this day, that JAH thy Abbah will set thee on high above all nations of the earth: 2: And all these blessings shall come on thee, and overtake thee, if thou shalt hearken unto the voice of JAH thy Abbah. 3: Blessed shalt thou be in the city, and blessed shalt thou be in the field. 4: Blessed shall be the fruit of thy body, and the fruit of thy ground, and the fruit of thy cattle, the increase of thy kine, and the flocks of thy sheep. 5: Blessed shall be thy basket and thy store.
 
 
Disobedience
        Deuteronomy 28:15 - But it shall come to pass, if thou wilt not hearken unto the voice of JAH thy Abbah, to observe to do all his commandments and his statutes which I command thee this day; that all these curses shall come upon thee, and overtake thee: 16: Cursed shalt thou be in the city, and cursed shalt thou be in the field. 17: Cursed shall be thy basket and thy store. 18: Cursed shall be the fruit of thy body, and the fruit of thy land, the increase of thy kine, and the flocks of thy sheep
 
 
3.    SPIRITUAL PRIORITIES
 
 
The Holy Spirit descended on the day of Pentecost, and the New Testament Assembly was founded on the day of Pentecost (Feast of Firstfruits) (Acts. 2:1-4, 36-47).
 
 
How important is all this to us living in this century? Does it really make any difference to the quality of one抯 spiritual life, or the welfare of this small congregation, whether we keep these Feasts of JAH or not?
 
 
After all, most of us don抰 make our living at agriculture. We don抰 grow wheat or keep sheep. We don抰 keep cattle for milk: neither do any of us keep bees for honey.
 
 
How does this feast of firstfruits affect us? The answer is: these low-level laws all have high-level spiritual meaning.
 
  • We are the soil. We were made from the dust of the earth.
  • Holy spiritual truths (the Words of JAH), the seed of Jah have been sowed in our minds.
  • The Holy Spirit is tending each one of us - with our permission - like a gardener tends his plot or a shepherd his flock.
  • JAH expects us to be producing Holy fruit in thought, word and deed.
    This is the purpose of our salvation.
 
Those ancient commands may not concern us at their low agricultural level: but most certainly they do at their high spiritual level. We are expected to bring forth 慺ruits of the Holy Spirit. Failure to do so will be catastrophic. Consider this parable:
 
 
        Luke 13:6 - He spake also this parable; A certain man had a fig tree planted in his vineyard; and he came and sought fruit thereon, and found none. 7: Then said he unto the dresser of his vineyard, Behold, these three years I come seeking fruit on this fig tree, and find none: cut it down; why cumbereth it the ground? 8: And he answering said unto him, Master, let it alone this year also, till I shall dig about it, and dung it: 9: And if it bear fruit, well: and if not, then after that thou shalt cut it down.
 
 
The meaning of this story is obvious. It needs little or no explanation. A vital clue to the importance of offering the best to JAH is found in what, at first glance, appears to be a misplaced instruction.
 
 
        Exodus 23:19 - The first of the firstfruits of thy land thou shalt bring into the house of JAH thy Abbah. Thou shalt not seethe a kid in his mother抯 milk.
 
 
What has this last sentence about cooking a kid in its mother抯 milk to do with firstfruits? The answer, I suspect, is: offering the first of the firstfruits is as vital to spiritual growth as milk is to a new-born kid. Withholding the best from JAH is tantamount to seething a kid in its mother抯 milk.
 
 
In other words, consuming the very thing (the milk), which was intended to make the kid grow has now been used to cook it. Withholding the firstfruits from JAH, in other words, is fatal. It will kill you in the end. I would say with the wise man:
 
 
        Proverbs 3:9 - Honour JAH with thy substance, and with the firstfruits of all thine increase
 
 
4.    HIGH LEVEL FIRSTFRUITS
 
 
As I stated before, firstfruits come at several levels: farm produce, living beings (believers) and the holy thoughts, words and actions of those believers.
 
 
JAH扴 people are also firstfruits; Individual Believers have the firstfruits of the Holy Spirit to be saved from sin.
 
  • Jeremiah 2:3 - Jahzrael was holiness unto JAH, and the firstfruits of His increase: all that devour him shall offend; evil shall come upon them, saith JAH.
  • Romans 8:21-23 - .And not only they, but our selves also which have the first fruits of the Spirit, even we our selves groan within our selves, waiting for the adoption, to wit, the redemption of our body.
  • James 1:17-18 - Of His own will begat us with the word of truth, that we should be a kind of firstfruits of His creatures.
 
The 144,000 of JAH. The (best) in quality. They are absolutely faultless.
 
         Revelation 14:4 - These are they which follow the Lamb withersoever he goeth. These were redeemed from among men being the firstfruits unto JAH and to the Lamb
 
The disciple Epaenetus
         Romans 16:5 - ... Salute my welbeloved Epaenetus who is the firstfruits of Achaia unto The Messijah.
 
 
5.    SPIRITUAL FRUIT
 
 
To produce a crop one must sow seed. Pause a while and consider that basic agricultural fact. Without sowing there can be no harvest. It is exactly the same in the spiritual realm.
 
 
Sowing to the Spirit
         Proverbs 3:9 - Honour JAH with thy substance and with the firstfruits of all thine increase. So shall thy barns be filled with plenty and thy presses shall burst out with new wine.
 
 
         Galatians 6:7-8 - Be not deceived; JAH is not mocked; for whatsoever a man soweth that shall he also reap. For he that soweth to his flesh shall of the flesh reap corruption. But he that soweth to the Spirit shall of the Spirit reap life everlasting.
 
 
         Galatians 22-26 - But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith, 23: Meekness, temperance: against such there is no law. 24: And they that are The Messijah抯 have crucified the flesh with the affections and lusts. 25: If we live in the Spirit, let us also walk in the Spirit. 26: Let us not be desirous of vain glory, provoking one another, envying one another.
 
 
I would add to this list, qualities such as: mercy, tender-heartedness, kindness, generosity, hospitality, compassion, good judgement, self-sacrifice, a proper sense of humour and the desire for reconciliation etc. If you produce such fruit the Most high will be your friend.
 
 
Sowing to the Flesh
 
Sowing to the flesh is not just committing blatant sin. Sowing to the flesh means sowing in the spirit of error and self-interest. This includes:
 
  • Pride: Thinking better of ourselves like we are not sinners or that we are spiritually more righteous than others. This was the first and most dangerous sin.
  • Greed.
  • Jealousy, envy and secret hate for those around you.
  • Misjudgment. Judging and coming to erroneous conclusions.
  • An unforgiving heart. This can be the case in many people.
 
These seeds produce a harvest of nothing but anger, strive and heartache.
 
 
We as brethren must not have bad feelings about one another, for the Messijah commanded us to love each other.
 
 
         John 13:34-35 - A new commandment I give unto you, That ye love one another; as I have loved you, that ye also love one another. 35 By this shall all men know that ye are my disciples, if ye have love one to another.
 
 
         Galatians 5:14-16 - For all the law is fulfilled in one word, even in this; Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. 15 But if ye bite and devour one another, take heed that ye be not consumed one of another.
 
 
         1 John 2:8-11 - Again, a new commandment I write unto you, which thing is true in him and in you: because the darkness is past, and the true light now shineth. 9 He that saith he is in the light, and hateth his brother, is in darkness even until now. 10 He that loveth his brother, abideth in the light, and there is none occasion of stumbling in him. 11 But he that hateth his brother, is in darkness, and walketh in darkness and knoweth not whither he goeth, because that darkness hath blinded his eyes.
 
 
Today, the Feast of Weeks (Pentecost) reminds the saints that just as Jah sent Moses to deliver the people of Jah from Pharaoh (typical of the devil), likewise, He shall send Jahoshuwah to deliver the saints from this evil Gentile world ruled by the Devil (Exo. 3:7-10; Deut. 18:15; Acts. 3:20-26; Isa. 52:1-15; 54:1-17; 33:22; 14:1-32; Rev. 19:11-16; Ps. 68:4,19-20).
 
 
The Feast of Firstfruits (Pentecost) is primarily about spiritual fruit. I tell you our very lives depend upon the kind of fruit we are producing. Just as we do not expect young children to produce offspring, or young fruit trees to produce fruit, in exactly the same way JAH gives us time to produce spiritual fruit in our lives.
 
 
Remember:
  • We are a kind of firstfruits - all of us.
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  • He is looking for the fruit of the Holy Spirit in our lives. If he finds no good, spiritual fruit, it could end in being hewn down and cast into the fire!
  • We are commanded to put Him first and to bring Him the best.
  • We are recognized by others, believers and unbelievers, by our words and actions. We are known by our fruits.
 
The basket on this table here represents our Assembly. It contains a variety of the best fruit we could find in the locality. Just as these fruits are all different, so too are we different from each other. But you are here, part of this symbolic basket of fruit. By the blood of the Saviour you were brought out of Egypt, out of sin. Why? The answer is - to produce the fruit of the Holy Spirit.
 
 
In the light of these facts let all of us in the Zion Assembly examine ourselves and ask ourselves the question: Am I producing good fruit or evil fruit? That is the question we must address today - on the Feast of Firstfruits.
 
 
Praise Jahshuwah.
 
 


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#106 From: PWC <pwc17@...>
Date: Mon Apr 16, 2007 9:49 am
Subject: Re: The Feast of Firstfruits and the Messiah
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Greetings Folks!
               It seems that THE Calendar has been disputed for a long time. The Early Messianic writings declare that Joseph of Arimithea (sp?) was an Essene. That would indicate that Yahusha was also Essene in practice; evidenced from the other groups claiming no association with Him, even in His death.
               Where this is leading is to the Dead Sea Scrolls. DSS 320 & 321 indicate that the Essenes kept the Feast of Unleavened Bread from Abib 15-21 (Month 1 day 15-21), and began the 50 day count to the Feast of Weeks the day after the next Sabbath of Abib 25; 50 days later they kept the Feast of Weeks on Sivan 15 (Month 3 Day 15); 50 days later they kept the Feast of New Wine on Ab 3 (Month 5 Day 3); 50 days later they kept the Feast of New Oil on Elul 22 (Month 6 Day 22); they kept the Feast of Wood on Elul 29 (Month 6 Day 29); two days later on Tishri 1 (Month 7 Day 1) they kept the Feast of Trumpets, followed by Day of Atonement on Tishri 10 (Month 7 Day 10), and the Feast of Tabernacles from Tishri 15-21 (Month 7 Days 15-21), with the Great Day on the 22nd.
              Being that the Essenes started the Calendar count at or near the Vernal equinox in Gregorian March, this means that they kept the Feast of Weeks toward the end of Gregorian June; the Feast of New Wine in the middle of Gregorian August; the Feast of New Oil in the beginning of Gregorian October; and finally the Feast of Wood toward the middle of Gregorian October, with Feast of Trumpets days later toward the middle-end of Gregorian October. Any deviation from this schedule would have thrown off the grape (wine) and olive (oil) harvests.
              This is a historical fact. Whether or not a person will accept the recorded observances of the Holy Days prior to the death of our Messiah is completely up to them, but is there wisdom in that decision?
 
YashaNa.
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YashaNa.
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#107 From: PWC <pwc17@...>
Date: Mon Apr 16, 2007 10:31 am
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Dear Brother Arnold my post follows a few of your comments.
 
Br. Paul

YHWHPeople@... wrote:
 
I challenge anyone to find a feast/Chag mentioned in the 3rd month for a 3rd month Pentecost. I challenge anyone to even find a wheat harvest in the 3rd month for a 3rd month Pentecost.
Q: Would this count work with the traditional Saturday Sabbath?
A: No, you would have two extra days because of the new moon days which are not counted in counting out Lunar weeks.
 
Q: If there is not a third month feasts in Scripture, does the Scripture say to prove all things?
A: Yes - 1 Thessalonians 5:21.
 
Q: If no 3rd month feast can be found in Scripture, where did the traditional Pentecost feast come from?
A: Traditions of man.
 
Q: If there are no examples of a third month feast or a third month wheat harvest, why should we keep a third month Pentecost?
A: We should not keep a third month Pentecost for the obvious reasons above.
 
Brother Arnold
 
Dear Brother Arnold,
          Would you agree with me if I said that Aaron and his sons took turns serving in the Tabernacle, and that those turns lasted from one Sabbath to the next? Please drop me a note whether you agree or not.
          Regarding not finding the 3rd Month Feast of Weeks in scripture, all you have to do is turn to the Book of Jubilees, and you will find all the evidence you could want. It is interesting that Jubilees states that Issac was born on the Feast of Weeks.
 
YashaNa.
Br. Paul
 
Jubilees 6:15-21
15] And He gave to Noah and his sons a sign that there should not again be a flood on the earth. 16] He set His bow in the cloud for a sign of the eternal covenant that there should not again be a flood on the earth to destroy it all the days of the earth. 17] For this reason it is ordained and written on the heavenly tablets, that they should celebrate the feast of weeks in this month once a year, to renew the covenant every year. 18] And this whole festival was celebrated in heaven from the day of creation till the days of Noah - twenty-six jubilees and five weeks of years [1309-1659 A.M.]: and Noah and his sons observed it for seven jubilees and one week of years, till the day of Noah's death, and from the day of Noah's death his sons did away with (it) until the days of Abraham, and they (did) eat blood. 19] But Abraham observed it, and Isaac and Jacob and his children observed it up to thy days, and in thy days the children of Israel forgot it until ye celebrated it anew on this mountain. 20] And do thou command the children of Israel to observe this festival in all their generations for a commandment unto them: one day in the year in this month they shall celebrate the festival. 21] For it is the feast of weeks and the feast of first fruits: this feast is twofold and of a double nature: according to what is written and engraven concerning it, celebrate it.
 
Jubilees 15:1
01] And in the fifth year of the fourth week of this jubilee, [1979 A.M.] in the third month, in the middle of the month, Abram celebrated the feast of the first-fruits of the grain harvest.
 
Jubilees 16:12,13
12] And in the middle of the sixth month Yahuah visited Sarah and did unto her as He had spoken and she conceived. 13] And she bare a son in the third month, and in the middle of the month, at the time of which Yahuah had spoken to Abraham, on the festival of the first fruits of the harvest, Isaac was born.
 
Jubilees 22:1,2
01] And it came to pass in the first week in the forty-fourth jubilee, in the second year, that is, the year in which Abraham died, that Isaac and Ishmael came from the Well of the Oath to celebrate the feast of weeks - that is, the feast of the first fruits of the harvest - to Abraham, their 02] father, and Abraham rejoiced because his two sons had come.
 
Jubilees 44:1-5,8,9
01] And Israel took his journey from Haran from his house on the first day of the third month, and he went on the way of the Well of the Oath, and he offered a sacrifice to the Elohim of his 02] father Isaac on the seventh of this month. And Jacov remembered the dream that he had seen 03] at Bethel, and he feared to go down into Egypt. And while he was thinking of sending word to Joseph to come to him, and that he would not go down, he remained there seven days, if 04] perchance he could see a vision as to whether he should remain or go down. And he celebrated the harvest festival of the first-fruits with old grain (Mo 3 Day 15), for in all the land of Canaan there was not a handful of seed, for the famine was over all the beasts and cattle and 05] birds, and also over man. And on the sixteenth Yahuah appeared to him, ..... 08] ..... And Israel rose up from the Well of the Oath on the sixteenth of this third month, and he 09] went to the land of Egypt.
  


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Date: Mon Apr 16, 2007 12:11 pm
Subject: Re: The Feast of Firstfruits and the Messiah
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Shalom Brother Paul,
 
I agree with you that Aaron and his sons took turns serving in the Tabernacle and those turns lasted from one Sabbath to the next.
 
I also agree with the book of jubilees chapter 1 which teaches that they came to the mount in the third month on the 16th day. This will be the middle of the third month that they came to be mount.
Jubilees 6:15-21 21] For it is the feast of weeks and the feast of first fruits: this feast is "twofold and of a double nature:" according to what is written and engraven concerning it, celebrate it.
 
Jubilees 15:1
01] And in the fifth year of the fourth week of this jubilee, [1979 A.M.] in the third month, in the middle of the month, Abram celebrated the feast of the first-fruits of the grain harvest.
 
I'll only agree with the book of jubilees, when it does not contradict Scripture.
 
Here are my notes on Pentecost in the 4th month.
 
Here are some of my notes on what the Scripture teaches is the true count to Pentecost, which is 50 days "after" the 7th Sabbath complete, not 50 days after the wave sheaf or 1st Sabbath (Lev-23:16)
16Even unto the morrow "after" the seventh sabbath shall ye number fifty days; and ye shall offer a new meat offering unto" NOT before.
 
I have not found ANY evidence from scripture to support the traditional 3rd month Pentecost but below is an abundance of evidence that conclusively proves a later Pentecost.
 
 
INTRODUCTION
 
 
If someone wanted to argue Pentecost in the third month, would it be asking too much for them to produce ONE scripture supporting a wheat harvest in the 3rd month "springtime"??? After all that is what Pentecost is, first fruits of the wheat harvest.
 
Leviticus 23:16 can be understood two ways, the traditional way is to count 50 days from the wave sheaf of the barley harvest, and another way it can be understood is to count 50 days from the morrow "after" the seventh Sabbath.
To prove which understanding is correct, we must turn to nature and other Scripture other than the one in question. We know that Pentecost has to do with the wheat harvest and I contended there is no conclusive Winter wheat harvest mentioned in the Scripture. If someone can find a Winter wheat harvest in scriptures then there is at least a 50-50 chance that the 50 days after the wave sheaf could possibly be right, otherwise it is not even an option.
The reason I say 50-50 chance is because we definitely have a conclusive pinpointed "summer" wheat harvest in the 4th month, which is found over and over throughout the Scriptures and therefore it could be understood either way is someone can find a Winter wheat harvest and then they could argue it was 50 days after the barley sheaf/Winter wheat harvest, and we could argue that it is 50 days after the seventh Sabbath complete, which would be a summer wheat harvest.
In other words if someone can produce scripture for harvesting wheat in the spring, instead of summer, then it could go either way but until someone finds a conclusive Winter wheat harvest it is not even an option. We must prove, from Scripture, what Leviticus 23:16 is speaking of.
Now if they were "no" summer wheat harvest found in Scripture and you had plenty of Winter wheat harvests found in Scripture, then the obvious understanding would be to count 50 days after the barley wave sheaf for the winter wheat harvest. Simple.
On the other hand if there is no Winter wheat harvest mentioned in Scripture, (and there's not) then the obvious conclusion is to begin the 50 day count from the morrow after the seventh Sabbath complete and then bring the new meat offering from the summer wheat, the only wheat spoken of in scriptures. Simple
Below you will read many Scripture which will harmonize with counting 50 days "after" the seventh Sabbath, not the wave sheaf, such as when Aaron made proclamation of a Pilgrim feast/CHAG which was 50 days after the seventh Sabbath complete, using Lunar Sabbaths, and the only Pilgrim Feast this could be is Pentecost because it is in the fourth month when Aaron proclaimed this. There is no CHAG found in the 3rd month for the traditional Pentecost.
 
Until someone can produce a Scripture showing that there is another Winter wheat harvest to choose from, found in Scripture of course, I see no room to debate it. I know that Winter wheat is now harvested in the springtime after spring barley harvest, but did ancient Israel plant Winter wheat??? If so, why can we not find it in Scripture unless it was not the Pentecost wheat?
 
All Scriptures that I have found is referring to "summer" wheat, it would be nice to have at least one "example" of Winter wheat in Scripture if I was going to count 50 days after the barley wave sheaf and then bring a first fruit from the winter wheat, but since there isn't any the conclusion is obvious.
We can prove many wheat harvests in the "summer", throughout the Scriptures, but is there one shred of evidence for a wheat harvest in the "spring" after Barley harvest? The answer is no, so there is no Scriptural wheat harvest in the spring, only Barely, so it must be understood that Pentecost is counted from the morrow "after" the seventh Sabbath/intermission, instead of from the wave sheaf it's self.
All the males were commanded to appear before YHWH three times in the year, these three feasts centered around the three major harvests. The first one is Unleavened Bread/barley harvest, which takes place in the "springtime", or Spring feast, then the second one takes place in the "summer", at the summer wheat harvest called Pentecost or summer harvest, the first fruits of the summer wheat harvest is offered, not Winter wheat which is harvested in the "spring", two weeks after the barley, and is still in the spring season.
Every where in Scripture and history from Josephus and Philo who lived at the time of these harvest, wheat was always a summer harvest. Study these EXAMPLES closely.
 
#1. In the book of Josephus it tells how that it was "Summer" time when the fruit of the land being almost ripe enough for reaping that Samson set fire to the fruit of the land i.e. "wheat" and grapes etc. and in the book of Judges it plainly tells that it was in the time of wheat harvest when Samson done this. Read the following from Josephus and the book of Judges.
 
CHAPTER 8 CONCERNING THE FORTITUDE OF SAMSON, AND WHAT MISCHIEFS HE BROUGHT UPON THE PHILISTINES
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7. (295) At this injurious treatment Samson was so provoked that he resolved to punish all the Philistines, as well as her; so it being then "summer" time, and the fruits of the land being almost ripe enough for reaping, he caught three hundred foxes, and joining lighted torches to their tails, he sent them into the fields of the Philistines, by which means the fruits of the fields perished.
 
In the book of Judges Chapter 15:5 it says:
"1But it came to pass within a while after, in the "time" of "wheat" harvest that Samson visited his wife with a kid; and he said, I will go in to my wife into the chamber. But her father would not suffer him to go in. 2And her father said, I verily thought that thou hadst utterly hated her; therefore I gave her to thy companion: is not her younger sister fairer than she? take her, I pray thee, instead of her. 3And Samson said concerning them, Now shall I be more blameless than the Philistines, though I do them a displeasure. 4And Samson went and caught three hundred foxes, and took firebrands, and turned tail to tail, and put a firebrand in the midst between two tails. 5And when he had set the brands on fire, he let them go into the standing "corn" of the Philistines, and burnt up both the shocks, and also the standing "corn", with the "vineyards and "olives".
In other words the time of wheat harvest is in the summer, NOT spring. This proves that this wheat harvest is speaking of "summer" wheat harvest and not spring harvest of winter wheat. Josephus knew enough about how many foxes etc. because he knew the Scriptures, wonder why he didn't know that the wheat harvest was in the spring instead of summer? Or maybe he knew that wheat harvest in his time was in the Summer and not Spring. You Judge and remember the people knew about farming in those days, and to say whether he was a Pharisee or Sadducee makes no difference concerning the harvest and nature.
 
The following quote from Josephus also proves the wheat was Summer wheat and not Winter wheat
 
1. (323) In the meantime Herod's affairs in Judea were in an ill state. He had left his brother Joseph with full power, but had charged him to make no attempts against Antigonus till his return;for that Macheras would not be such an assistant as he could depend on, as it appeared by what he had done already; but as soon as Joseph heard that his brother was at a very great distance, he neglected the charge he had received, and marched towards Jericho with five cohorts, which Macheras sent with him. This movement was intended for seizing on the corn, as it was now in the midst of "summer;"
Notice the last verse of this quote. This is found in Josephus under:
 
THE DEATH OF JOSEPH [HEROD'S BROTHER], WHICH HAD BEEN SIGNIFIED TO HEROD IN DREAMS. HOW HEROD WAS PRESERVED TWICE, AFTER A WONDERFUL MANNER. HE CUTS OFF THE HEAD OF PAPPUS WHO WAS THE MURDERER OF HIS BROTHER, AND SENDS THAT HEAD TO [HIS OTHER BROTHER] PHERORAS, AND IN NO LONG TIME HE BESIEGES JERUSALEM, AND MARRIES MARIAMNE
 
This next quote which lists the 4 seasons, proves they were known back then: Philo, On The Creation
"And in addition to the four elements the seasons of the year are also four, which are the "causes" of the "generation" of animals and "plants", the year being divided into the quadruple division of winter, and "spring", and "summer", and "autumn".
XVII. (53) The aforesaid number therefore being accounted worthy"
 
Notice he says these four seasons Winter, and Spring, and Summer, and Autumn, are cause of the generation of animals and "plants"
In other words you have three harvest feasts each year, barley in the spring, wheat in the summer, and the annual fruits of the trees etc. in the autumn.
I have heard the argument that all harvest was Summer time, but that is not acceptable because Josephus says, "And in addition to the four elements the seasons of the year are also four, which are the "causes" of the "generation" of animals and "plants", the year being divided into the quadruple division of winter, and "spring", and "summer", and "autumn".
 
 
 
Bottom line is someone should have a Scripture or some kind of proof that there is a spring wheat harvest instead of a summer wheat harvest to support their 50 day count after the wave sheaf instead of 50 days after the seventh Sabbath complete for Pentecost.
I can give many Scriptures and history from people that lived at this time that there is a summer wheat harvest which would have to be 50 days after the seventh Sabbath instead of 50 days after the first Sabbath.
50 days after the first Sabbath can only produce a spring wheat harvest and 50 days after the seventh Sabbath can only produce a summer wheat harvest. Which one does the Scripture teach? We know what tradition of men teaches.
 
It says in the book of Nehemiah Chapter 13:15:
In those days saw I in Judah some treading "wine presses" on the sabbath, and bringing in "sheaves", and lading asses; as also wine, grapes, and figs, and all manner of burdens, which they brought into Jerusalem on the sabbath day: and I testified against them in the day wherein they sold victuals.
Nehemiah saw men treading grapes in these wine presses and the grapes are not ripe until summer and the sheaves they were bringing in had to be summer sheaves. The Winter wheat is gone by this time and so was springtime.
 
Our Saviour says that after four months comes the harvest. This has to be speaking of the summer wheat harvest which matures in four months. It is sown in the first month Abib/spring and is reaped in the fourth month/summer which is seven Sabbaths plus 50 days and then you can bring a first fruit from it/summer fruit. This is why the hail did not destroy the wheat in Egypt because it had not come up yet because it was planted in the first month.
 
In John 4: 35 it says:
 
"say not ye ., there are yet four months then cometh the harvest"
 
Winter wheat is at least 6 or 7 months to harvest and not four months to harvest as our Saviour said it was, and as I have said, winter wheat can NOT be pinpointed in scripture and therefore is not even an option for Pentecost wheat. Furthermore there's no third month feast mentioned in Scripture.
 
John-12:24 says,
 
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27Now is my soul troubled; and what shall I say? Father, save me from this hour: but for this cause came I unto this hour. <QVB://0/anchor/28>鈥.. <QVB://0/anchor/32>32And I, if I be lifted up from the earth, will draw all men unto me. <QVB://0/anchor/33>33This he said, signifying what death he should die".
 
A corn of wheat can NOT bring forth fruit (a harvest) in 50 days and I can not picture our Saviour not using a true analogy. He was buried in the 1st month, same as summer wheat is and a harvest of soles was reaped 50 days AFTER
a week of weeks has passed over or 50 days AFTER 7 Sabbaths had passed over. It was the same time that the Law was given to Moses, written in tables of stone and on the day of Pentecost the fruit of the Spirit was poured out and the Law is written on the heart which was the fruit of His dying. I believe that after a wheat or grass seed dies, it will begin to germinate and bring forth life on the third day and approximately 100 days from there it will bring forth fruit.
 
The Saviour typed himself as a corn of wheat that would die in the first month, rise the third day and bring forth fruit on the day of Pentecost when the Law was written in their hearts, same day that the Law was written in stone and gave to Moses 50 days after the seventh Sabbath complete and it was at the end of his 40 days and 40 nights on the mount that the Law in tables of stone was given to Moses, not in the beginning of the third month.
 
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When Aaron used the word CHAG, which is only used for Pilgrim feast, it was in the Summer time and it was 50 days after the seventh Sabbath. It was also the same day that the Law was given on Mount Sinai. Ex-32:5 and Ex-31:18
 
Philo says that the harvest comes after the grapes are ripe and the grapes are not ripe until summer. He also tells of some men that was keeping a prelude or for feast of the greatest feast i.e. Pentecost, 50 days after the wave sheaf. That means that the morrow after the 7th Sabbath is NOT Pentecost, but the start of the 50 day count to Pentecost.
 
He also says that wheat was the last of all" the grains that are sowed in the field to ripen and come to harvest. This was Pentecost wheat that he was referring to, and it has to be summer wheat to ripen last, after winter wheat. Philo SPECIAL LAWS, 11 (186)
 
The wheat harvest and Tabernacles are to be observed at the years end/turning (Ex34:22) and that does not happened until June 21. ( after the traditional Pentecost} In other words you have a turning March 21 and then keep Passover, in the Spring and you have another turning June 21st and you keep Pentecost, in the Summer and then you have another turning September 21 in the days of Tabernacles, in the Fall. If you try to keep the traditional Pentecost in the third month/June 6, it is not at the years end or turning, which happens on June 21. and is not in harmony with Torah Law.
When they came into the land they were to reap the harvest thereof/barley, wave sheaf, count seven sabbaths/intermissions complete, number 50 days, then bring a new meat offering from "their" labors that "they" sowed in the field i.e. wheat.
In other words if they sowed the summer wheat in the first month when they came into the land they could reap a harvest for a first fruit 50 days after the seventh Sabbath from their labors which they sowed in the field, but NOT in 50 days from the time they sowed, for nature will not allow the wheat to mature in 50 days. Ex-23:16
There is so much proof supporting the count should began 50 days after the seventh Sabbath instead of 50 days after the first Sabbath.
Bottom line is, can anyone locate a "spring" wheat harvest for a 3rd month Pentecost? If not, maybe it is not there and is only a tradition of men.
 
Here are a few Scriptures to support the summer fruit/wheat harvest:
 
Proverbs 10:5
"5He that gathereth in SUMMER is a wise son: but he that sleepeth in "HARVEST" is a son that causeth shame."
Notice summer and harvest is synonymous.
Proverbs 26:1
"1As snow in "Summer", and as rain in "Harvest", so honour is not seemly for a fool."
Again summer and harvest is synonymous.
Isaiah 16:9
 
"9Therefore I will bewail with the weeping of Jazer the vine of Sibmah: I will water thee with my tears, O Heshbon, and Elealeh: for the shouting for thy "SUMMER" fruits and for thy HARVEST is fallen (some of harvest not spring harvest). 10And gladness is taken away, and joy out of the plentiful field;and in the VINEYARDS there shall be no singing, neither shall there be shouting: the treaders shall tread out no WINE in their presses; I have made their vintage shouting to cease."
 
Notice here the summer fruits of the harvest AND the wine are connected.
 
Isaiah 17: 5-6
"5And it shall be as when the HARVESTMAN gathereth the corn, and reapeth the ears with his arm; and it shall be as he that gathereth ears in the VALLEY of Rephaim.
6Yet "Gleaning Grapes" shall be left in IT (Valley), as the shaking of an olive tree, two or three berries in the top of the uppermost bough, four or five in the outmost fruitful branches thereof, saith YHWH the Mighty One of Israel".
 
Notice here, the harvest men gather the wheat in the Valley and what's left of the grapes they left in the Valley which proves the grapes were ripe before the harvest they just didn't go back and GLEAN them. Philo also says the grapes are ripe before the harvest. SEE Philo ON REWARDS AND PUNISHMENTS XV11 (101)
 
Isaiah 18:4-6
 
4For so the MASTER said unto me, I will take my "rest", and I will consider in my dwelling place like a clear heat upon herbs, and like a cloud of dew in the "heat of harvest." 5For "afore" the harvest, when the bud is perfect and the sour grape is" ripening" in the flower,
 
The Tanach reads, " for thus said YHWH to me: I will be at ease and I will look after my place of Foundation; like crisp warmth after the rain, like a mist in the "heat" of the harvest. For "before" "the" harvest, when the flower is finished and the bud turns to "grapes approaching ripeness,"
 
Notice here that this is speaking of a summer wheat harvest and says "before" the harvest the grapes are approaching ripeness". The Grapes Are Not Approaching Ripeness in the springtime.
The phrase "THE harvest" not a harvest of wheat seems to imply that there was only one major wheat harvest and that was in the summer which rules out any possibility of counting only one day after the seventh Sabbath complete.
 
"6They shall be left together unto the fowls of the mountains, and to the beasts of the earth: and the fowls shall" "Summer" upon them, and all the beasts of the earth shall winter upon them. 7In that time shall "the present" be brought unto YHWH of hosts of a people scattered and peeled, and from a people terrible from their beginning hitherto; a nation meted out and trodden under foot, whose land the rivers have spoiled, to the place of the name YHWH of hosts, the mount Zion".
 
I believe "the present" that is spoken of here is the first fruit of the summer wheat harvest because it shows that the present/first fruit is brought during the summer. The above and nature demands an understanding of Leviticus 23:16 to mean 50 days after the seventh Sabbath complete.
 
Jeremiah 8: 20
"20The harvest is past, the "summer" is ended, and we are not saved."
 
This verse I shows that the harvest was in the summer NOT "Spring" because it does not say the harvest is past and spring is ended. Proven once again it is a summer harvest not Spring harvest.
 
Jeremiah 40: 10 -12
"10As for me, behold, I will dwell at Mizpah to serve the Chaldeans, which will come unto us: but ye, gather ye "WINE", and SUMMER FRUIT, and oil, and put them in your vessels, and dwell in your cities that ye have taken. 11Likewise when all the Jews that were in Moab, and among the Ammonites, and in Edom, and that were in all the countries, heard that the king of Babylon had left a remnant of Judah, and that he had set over them Gedaliah the son of Ahikam the son of Shaphan; 12Even all the Jews returned out of all places whither they were driven, and came to the land of Judah, to Gedaliah, unto Mizpah, and gathered WINE AND SUMMER FRUITS VERY MUCH."
 
Notice the wine/grapes and the summer fruit/wheat is in the summer time and not the springtime. By the way in Jeremiah 39:2 it explains that this was in the fourth month when the people harvested these crops.
 
Jeremiah 48: 32
"32O vine of Sibmah, I will weep for thee with the weeping of Jazer: thy plants are gone over the sea, they reach even to the sea of Jazer: the spoiler is fallen upon thy "SUMMER" fruits and upon thy "Vintage". 33And joy and gladness is taken from the plentiful field, and from the land"
 
Once again s summer fruit and grapes together.
 
Daniel 2:35
"35Then was the iron, the clay, the brass, the silver, and the gold, broken to pieces together, and became like the chaff of the SUMMER THRESHINGFLOORS; and the wind carried them away, that no place was found for them:
 
Notice it does not say "SPRING THRESHINGFLOORS"
 
Amos 8: 1-5
"1Thus hath YHWH thy Mighty One showed unto me: and behold a basket of "SUMMER FRUIT". 2And he said, Amos, what seest thou? And I said, A basket of summer fruit. Then said YHWH unto me, The end is come upon my people of Israel; I will not again pass by them any more. 3And the songs of the temple shall be howlings in that day, saith YHWH thy Mighty One: there shall be many dead bodies in every place; they shall cast them forth with silence.
4Hear this, O ye that swallow up the needy, even to make the poor of the land to fail, 5Saying, When will the new moon be gone, that we may sell corn? and the sabbath, that we may set forth WHEAT, making the ephah small, and the shekel great, and falsifying the balances by deceit"?
 
Notice here the summer fruit is referring to the wheat. He will return and gather the wheat into the barn on Pentecost.
 
Micah 7:1
"1Woe is me! for I am as when they have gathered the SUMMER FRUITS, as the GRAPEGLEANINGS of the vintage: there is no cluster to eat: my soul desired the FIRSTRIPE FRUIT.
 
The first fruit here is referring to summer fruits or summer first fruits.
 
 
Nature proves Pentecost IN THE FOURTH MONTH.
 
On the day of Pentecost when they were being accused of being drunk with "new" wine, which is not found in the third month for the traditional Pentecost, Peter said "this is that, which was spoken by the prophet Joel" and when you look at what the prophet Joel said, you will see where he said that "the floors would be full of wheat and the fats full of "wine", Once again there is no new wine in the third month to fulfill this prophecy, therefore it had to have been a 4th month Pentecost because it is agriculturally "IMPOSIBLE" for the Fats to be full of wine in the 3rd month. This is an absolute, and this alone proves Pentecost in the fourth month, which is 50 days "after" the seventh Sabbath complete. Leviticus 23:16
 
Here is the Prophecy found in the 2nd ch. of Joel.
24And the floors shall be full of "wheat", and the "vats shall overflow with wine" and oil. 25And I will restore to you the years that the locust hath eaten, the cankerworm, and the caterpillar, and the palmerworm, my great army which I sent among you. 26And ye shall eat in plenty, and be satisfied, and praise the name YHWH your MIGHTY One, that hath dealt wondrously with you: and my people shall never be ashamed. 27And ye shall know that I am in the midst of Israel, and that I am YHWH your Mighty One, and none else: and my people shall never be ashamed.
28And it shall come to pass afterward, that I will pour out my spirit upon all flesh; and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, your old men shall dream dreams, your young men shall see visions: 29And also upon the servants and upon the handmaids in those days will I pour out my spirit. 30And I will show wonders in the heavens and in the earth, blood, and fire, and pillars of smoke. 31The sun shall be turned into darkness, and the moon into blood, before the great and the terrible day of YHWH come. 32And it shall come to pass, that whosoever shall call on the name YHWH shall be delivered: for in mount Zion and in Jerusalem shall be deliverance.
Notice the prophecy was for the outpouring of the Holy Spirit at a prosperous time when the floors would be full wheat and the wine presses full of wine and there's no wine in the fats in the third month, this also is an absolute. The wheat AND wine were part of this prophecy, after all it was Pentecost when this prophecy was fulfilled in the book of Acts, 2nd ch. Says,
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14But Peter , standing up with the eleven , lifted up his voice, and said unto them, Ye men of Judea, and all ye that dwell at Jerusalem , be this known unto you, and hearken to my words :
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15For these are not "drunken", as ye suppose, seeing it is but the third hour of the day.
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16But this is that which was spoken by the prophet Joel;
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17And it shall come to pass in the last days"
 
My main point is there is posivetily no new wine in the third month, so Joel's prophecy had to be referring to the fourth month and furthermore, there are NO scriptures that will support new wine as being last year's wine or any other than the definition found in Strong's,
 
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The only new wine found in Scripture whether fermented are not, is wine that is still in the cluster or in the fats/wine presses or as our Savior refers to as not been put in the new bottles yet, and if it is put in old bottles it will burst them. This is much like the winter wheat which cannot be found in Scripture, neither can new wine be found as wine that came out of the old store or last year's wine because by then it is not new wine and does not fit the definition found in Scripture.
There is no New wine (sweet wine) in the third moon (grapes were not ripe yet) but were at the end of the fourth moon
The prophet Joel could have said, the floors shall be full of wheat and left out about the winepresses being full of wine on this day, but He did not because it is true.
 
 
 
 
 
 
THE APOSTLE PAUL GOES BEYOND 50 DAYS TO KEEP PENTECOST IN JERUSALEM
 
I have shown were the apostle Paul kept Pentecost in Jerusalem and it was longer than 50 days from unleavened bread, to the time he arrived in Jerusalem which is a living example where someone kept Pentecost and it was beyond 50 days of the wave sheaf,
 
 
 
 
 
I have shown were the apostle Paul kept Pentecost in Jerusalem and it was longer than 50 days from unleavened bread, to the time he arrived in Jerusalem which is a living example where someone kept Pentecost and it was beyond 50 days of the wave sheaf,
I have also shown where the Law was given to Moses 50 days after the seventh Sabbath. I have showed many things which support beginning the count 50 days "after" the seventh Sabbath, but have not seen one thing to support counting the 50 days from the wave sheaf. Now we do believe we are to count seven intermissions/Sabbaths from the wave sheaf, but days are not even mentioned until after the seventh Sabbaths, and then they are 50 of them to be numbered.
 
Am I missing something?
 
Brother Arnold
 
 
 
 
 
Originally posted by Brother Arnold:
Brother Chuck, I listed six reasons from Scripture why I believe that the 50 days are numbered from the morrow "after" the seventh Sabbath complete. I am still waiting for "one" reason from Scripture why you believe Leviticus 23:16 should be interpreted to number 50 days from the week of unleavened bread, is that asking too much? I await your answer.
 
Response by Brother Chuck,
I have already answered at least 10 times or more. I don't believe it needs to be INTERPRETED; i'm going by what it plainly says. And you're not interpreting it either - you're flatout CHANGING what it says to the exact opposite.
RESPONSE by Brother Arnold,
 
Chuck, I don't think I am making myself clear, please forgive me, what I am trying to say is, not counting yours or my interpretation of Leviticus 23:16, I would like to see some evidence that would support as to why 50 days should be counted from the unleavened bread instead of the morrow after the seventh Sabbath complete. Let's not use the Scripture that is in question but find another Scripture that will support our interpretation of Lev-23:16.
 
Example, I believe the Scriptures I quoted prove that the wheat harvest was after the grapes were ripe and there is no denying it from the examples I gave from Scripture and Philo.
As of now I don't believe that there are any scripture where any wheat harvest took place "before" the grapes were ripe in the fourth month which would help supports your tradition of counting 50 days from the wave sheaf instead of 50 days after the 7th Sabbath. As I have stated in other forms, even Philo, who I believe knew something about farming in those days, said that the harvest came "AFTER" the grapes were ripe. Those are his exact words.
 
Now I have listed six references from Scriptures why Leviticus 22:16 should be understood to count 50 days "after" the seventh Sabbath. Now I would like for someone to list ONE Scripture to support the interpretation of Leviticus 23:16 as meaning 50 days "after" unleavened bread instead of 50 days "after" the seventh Sabbath. END
#2. The ONLY wheat harvest Recorded in Scripture, is in the "summer" after the grapes are ripe, which is impossible for grapes to be ripe in the spring or the third month. Therefore if there is no recorded wheat harvest before the grapes are ripe, then Leviticus 23:16 must be understood as to begin to number the 50 days "AFTER" the seventh Sabbath complete, there is no room left to debate it.
 
chunks response, The only archangels recorded in Scripture are Michael, Gabriel, & Heylel, but that doesn't mean that there aren't others, so your statement proves nothing. Scripture only refers to the seasons as "summer" and "winter", and all the harvests are in "summer", which includes what we would call "spring" and "early fall". The plain statement of Lev.23:15 proves that there was a harvest in the 3rd month, which is "spring" to us, but "summer" in Scripture.
RESPONSE; if these are the only archangels mentioned in Scripture, then who are we to say that there are more or who are we to say they are not more? The same is true with the wheat harvest, and besides, the grapes must be ripe during a Scriptural wheat harvest, no matter what you call the Season and this is IMPOSSIBLE in the third month.
We must not add to his words or take away from them.
If we only speak where the Scriptures speak and be silent when it is silent, we won't get into these embarrassing situations. END
Arnold's quote
#3. All Scriptural wheat was planted in the first month and harvested in the fourth month, which is in perfect harmony with what our Saviour said in the book of John "say not ye there are yet four months "then" cometh harvest"...
 
Chuck response, "I did a search on "first month" and "fourth month", and can find no mention of planting or harvesting. The fact that Scripture doesn't say it in those exact words doesn't mean it didn't happen, or that it did."
 
RESPONSE; that's right Chuck, but we have proven examples where there was a wheat harvest in the fourth month and none in the third month. We also have a CHAG proclaimed by Aaron in the fourth month END
 
Since we don't know what time of year Yahshua made His statement, we have no definite starting point for counting the "four months".
RESPONSE; correction Chuck, we do have a starting point in the second chapter of John verse 23, where it says that He was in Jerusalem at the feast of "Passover"/first month and you can read from their to the woman at the well and where he made the statement. END
"Here's what your count would look like, 1 - 3 - - - 7 and here's what YHWH's count looks like, 1 - - 4 - - 7 see how smooth it is with no bumps and skips, compared to man's tradition.
His feast is held three times in the year, spring, summer, and fall. Not "spring", "spring", and fall.
Chunks reply,
The above has 3 parts:
1. Simple answer: Aaron lied. (as i have previously posted)
2. The "1-3---7" makes more sense, since Pentecost is the Feast of "Firstfruits" (not "middle fruits"), and therefore would be expected to be closer to the beginning of the year."
 
RESPONSE; Aaron did not lie, but understood the count began from the morrow after the seventh Sabbath and it was 50 days after the seventh Sabbath that Aaron said what he said concerning the CHAG/Pilgrim feast.
Also Brother Chuck, firstfruits means the first ripe fruits of your harvest whether it is the spring barley, summer wheat, or the first fruit of the fruit trees in the fall. END
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#5. Nehemiah 13:15 said he saw men in Judah treading the "wine" press and bringing in sheaves on the Sabbath day...
 
But he doesn't say this was anywhere near Pentecost, so it proves nothing.
 
RESPONSE; it proves that the wheat harvest comes after grapes are ripe. Sister Wendy said Larry e-mailed her some evidence that their is Scriptural harvest of wheat in the third month, If you could get them to furnish this evidence it would put the third month Pentecost back in the running as an option. End
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#6. The wheat harvest must be at the year's end/turning which happens June 21...
 
According to Ex.34:22, it is the "Feast of Ingathering" (Tabernacles, NOT Pentecost), that is observed at the year's end/turning.
 
RESPONSE; it also mentions the feast of weeks alone with Tabernacles, they are both at the years turning/end. One turning is around June 21st, and another around Sept 21st. END
 
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#7.The Holy Spirit through the Prophet Joel said that the Floors would be full of wheat and the "fats" would be over flowing with "wine" on the day that the Holy Spirit was poured out, which we know to be Pentecost. It is "IMPOSIABLE" to have fats full of "wine" in the 3rd month, which disproves Pentecost 50 days after unleavened bread. Joel 2:24-28
 
Arnold, you have your sequence of Feasts in Joel 2 incorrect. Notice:
Verse 1-11 is Trumpets - the Day of YAHWEH.
Verse 12-17 is Atonment - the Day of Fasting & repentence.
Verse 18-27 is Tabernacles - the ingathering of the corn, wine, oil, figs, and perhaps even some wheat. I believe the harvest blessings mentioned in this passage apply to all the harvests of the year, from that time onward. To demand that the wheat, wine, & oil of v24 are all harvested at the same time of year is the same logic that would demand that the "former" and "latter" rains of v23 occur at the same time.
Verse 28-29 is Pentecost. (note "AFTERWARD", after all of the above)
 
RESPONSE; the Holy Spirit was poured out on the day of Pentecost and this was the time that the threshingfloors would be full of wheat and the fats overflowing with new wine. This is why they were accused of being drunk with new wine on the day of Pentecost. The grapes were ripe at that time and it had to be in the fourth month for grapes to be ripe. End
 
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I could go on and on with Scriptures showing why the count begins 50 days AFTER the seventh Sabbath and not 50 days after the first Sabbath, but I challenge anyone to show one reason that the verse in Leviticus 23:16 should be understood 50 days after the first Sabbath or unleavened bread instead of 50 days "after" the seventh Sabbath, as Scripture says.
 
Chuck response; I have answered all your statements above, and repeat my "one reason" as previously stated: because Lev.23:15 plainly says so.
 
RESPONSE; the debate is over Leviticus 23/16 and how it should be interpreted, therefore it cannot be used as proof either way. I want someone to show an example supporting their interpretation of Leviticus 23/16 as to mean 50 days after unleavened bread instead of 50 days after the seventh Sabbath complete, as I have done.
Brother Arnold
 
Response; Brother Chuck, compare what I said the Scripture "TEACHES", to what you said the Scripture "SAID"
 
The reason I believe that "ye shall number" 50 days "AFTER" the "seventh" Sabbath complete is because,
#1. The Scripture says to, in Leviticus 23:16.
#2. The ONLY wheat harvest Recorded in Scripture, is in the "summer" wheat harvest after the grapes are ripe, which is impossible for grapes to be ripe in the spring of the third month. Therefore if there is no recorded wheat harvest before the grapes are ripe, then Leviticus 23:16 must be understood to begin to number the 50 days "AFTER" the seventh Sabbath complete.
 
#3. All Scriptural wheat was planted in the first month and harvested in the fourth month, which is in perfect harmony with what our Saviour said in the book of John "say not ye there are yet four months "then" cometh harvest". Winter wheat is 8 months then cometh the harvest. Wheat planted in the first month can be proven in the book of Exodus, where it teaches that all the herbs/green grass of the field were destroyed along with the barley and flax, but the wheat was not destroyed because it had not "grown up" the revised standard says it was late coming up. In other words it had been planted in the first month and was still in the dark ground and therefore escaped the hail. The Septuagint says that the hail destroyed all the green grass. Wheat is a green grass.
Had it been Winter wheat, the kind that is planted in the fall and reaped in the spring, it would have been destroyed along with the barley and other herbs/green grass of the field because it was almost ready to harvest also even if it was Summer wheat that was planted in the 1st month and had already came up when the hail hit, it would have been destroyed also.
 
#4. We have shown where Aaron the high priest proclaimed a CHAG/Pilgrim feast in the fourth month and it was exactly 50 days after the "seventh" Sabbath complete. I challenge anyone to show where there is a CHAG mentioned in the "third" month.
 
We have one mentioned in the "first" month and in the "FOURTH" month and in the "seventh" month but never do we have one mentioned in the third month, therefore the count cannot begin 50 days after unleavened bread, but 50 days after the seventh Sabbath counting from unleavened bread. 1st - - 4th - - 7th are CHAGs with two months between each.
Here's what your count would look like, 1 - 3 - - - 7 and here's what YHWH's count looks like, 1 - - 4 - - 7 see how smooth it is with no bumps and skips, compared to man's tradition.
His feasts are held three times in the year, spring, summer, and fall. "NOT" "spring", "spring", and fall.
 
Philo says in THE SPECIAL LAWS, IV (235) page 639 of my Yonge's translation, says "for as the atmosphere is divided by an equal number of months into winter, and spring, and summer, and autumn, it complete the whole year by allotting three months to each season;"
 
And in
THE SPECIAL LAWS, I, THE SIXTH FESTIVAL XXIX. (175)
 
"And there are many meanings intended by this offering of the first fruits. In the first place they are a memorial of Creator; secondly, they are a most just requital to be offered to him who is the real cause of all fertility; (175) and the sheaf of the first fruits is barley, calculated for the innocent and blameless use of the inferior animals; for since it is not consistent with holiness to offer first fruits of everything, since most things are made rather for pleasure than for any actually indispensable use, it is also not consistent with holiness to enjoy and partake of any thing which is given for food, without first giving thanks to that being to whom it is becoming and pious to offer them.
That portion of the food which was honoured with the second place, namely, barley, was ordered by the Law to be offered as first fruits; for the first honours were assigned to wheat, of which it has deferred the offering of the first fruits, as being more honourable, to a more suitable season."
I believe a more suitable season is referring to summer, and the feasts are spaced out.
 
 
 
#5. Nehemiah 13:15 said he saw men in Judah treading the "wine" press and bringing in sheaves on the Sabbath day. This has to be wheat that was planted in the first month and reaped in the fourth month after the grapes were ripe (50 days after the seventh Sabbath). It would be impossible to be gathering grapes and bringing in sheaves of the Winter wheat, there is no Winter wheat mentioned any were in Scripture or any examples found in Scripture. What is it you don't understand about that? No Scriptural spring wheat harvest, no Scriptural Pentecost, only tradition of men. I know there is Winter and summer wheat planted now days, but we are dealing with Scriptural wheat of that day.
 
#6. The wheat harvest must be the at the years end/turning which happens June 21, and well after the traditional Pentecost has taken place. They are keeping Pentecost before the year's end of the turning of the year, on June 21. This is not Scriptural.
 
I could go on and on with Scriptures showing why the count begins 50 days AFTER the seventh Sabbath and not 50 days after the first Sabbath, but I challenge anyone to show one reason that the verse in Leviticus 23:16 should be understood 50 days after the first Sabbath or unleavened bread instead of 50 days "after" the seventh Sabbath. The Scripture says prove all things and nature will not lie.
 
Brother Arnold
We will be Judged by what the scripture teaches and NOT what the Jews or any origination teaches.
 
 
Philo and nature proves Pentecost in the fourth month which ends the Pentecost controversy.
 
The Pentecost controversy had been raging for years and now I will show positive proof from nature and Philo the correct timing for Pentecost.
Philo was a prominent Jew that lived at the same time our Saviour did and his writings of how things were done at that time, will solve many ministers concerning Pentecost.
There are two types of wheat which are grown in the world today, one is Winter wheat which is sown in the fall and reaped in the spring and the other is summer wheat which is sown in the spring and reaped in the summer. The summer wheat takes four months to harvest, from the time the seed is sown to harvest and Winter wheat is seven to eight months from the time the seed is sown to harvest. The question is which wheat is the Pentecost wheat??? Will the real Pentecost weeks stand up.
 
There is a scripture in Leviticus 23:16 that has the possibility of two interpretations, one is to number ONE day after the seventh Sabbath complete and the other is to number 50 days "after" the seventh Sabbath complete, before bringing the new meat offering to YHWH.
Numbering 50 days from the wave sheaf will still be in the springtime, a few weeks after the springtime barley harvest and demands a first fruit from Winter wheat.
Numbering 50 days "after" the seventh Sabbath complete will be in the summertime and demands a first fruit from summer wheat.
Philo speaks of a wheat harvest in the low lands of Egypt that was used for Pentecost and it took place in the middle of spring which would be around May 6th and the reason was BECAUSE the fruit had ripened in the low lands and was being brought in. The wheat ripened about a month or so earlier in the low lands of Egypt then it did in the high lands of Egypt therefore the summer wheat was harvested in the middle of spring and here is the quote from Colson's translation of Philo under THE SPECIAL LAWS, 1 - (183) and it reads,
"In the middle of the spring comes the corn harvest. At this season thank offerings are brought for the low lands BECAUSE they have borne fruit in full and the "SUMMER" crops are being gathered in"
Philo calls them summer crops even though in the low lands they are harvested in the middle of spring. It is equivalent to our saying, "in the low lands of South Georgia and Florida the summer crop is ripe/summer fruit/wheat, in the middle of spring". It would be about a month earlier than middle or North Georgia. Remember also what Josephus said concerning the wheat harvest being in the summertime when Sampson went in the time of wheat harvest to visit his wife.
 
 
 
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You might ask how is this important and how does it prove the Pentecost wheat is in the fourth month?
The middle of spring is May 6th when the Pentecost wheat is ripe in the lower lands of Egypt, this means that in the high lands of Egypt the wheat would be ripe a month or so later around June 6, which is the traditional spring Pentecost and not enough time to harvest, thrash and ground the wheat into flower in time to bring to wave loaves out of their houses. Lev:23:17.
 
Someone might say they would have enough time to do it. Even if they did have enough time in the high lands of Egypt, it would be impossible for Israel to have a first fruit wheat harvest before May 6th BECAUSE there wheat ripens a month or so "after" the wheat in Egypt, which would be around July 6th, well past the time of the traditional Pentecost in the third month, but just in time for Pentecost in the fourth month, 50 days after the seventh Sabbath complete.
 
Let me give you more evidence to support the understanding of Leviticus 23:16 to be understood as to number 50 days after the seventh Sabbath complete instead of numbering one day after the seventh Sabbath complete, which puts Pentecost at the end of the fourth month instead of the traditional beginning of the third month Pentecost.
 
It is found in THE SPECIAL LAWS, 11 Chapter 28, (158) and Philo is speaking about the barley harvest being the springtime feast and as a reminder of the creation of the world. Here is the quote:
" the springtime feast, as I have laid down, is a reminder of the creation of the world"
Now I will show you in the next Chapter, chapter 29, (176) where Philo is still speaking of the barley and he adds how the Law postpones the wheat harvest to a more suitable SEASON in the future. Here is the quote:
 
 
 
"And therefore the Law ordained that the first fruit offering should be made of barley, a species of grain regarded as holding the second place in value as food. For wheat holds the first place and as the first fruit of this has greater distinction, the LAW postponed it to a more suitable SEASON in the future. It does not anticipate matters, but puts it in storage for the time being, so that the various thank offerings may be adjusted to their appointed dates as they recur". (50 days after the seventh Sabbath would put it out of the spring season and into the summer season which is more suitable season.) (Leviticus 23)
 
Philo says in THE SPECIAL LAWS, IV (235) page 639 of my Yonge's translation, says "for as the atmosphere is divided by an equal number of months into winter, and spring, and summer, and autumn, it complete the whole year by allotting three months to each season;"
 
It would be more suitable for the seasonal feasts to look like this,
1 - - 4 - - 7 instead of like this, 1 - 3 - - - 7
 
See how smooth it is with no bumps and skips, compared to man's tradition.
 
He said also in chapter 28 "the springtime is a reminder of the creation of the world" and in chapter 29 says that the wheat is postponed to
"another" season (summer) by the Law.
His feasts are held three times in the year, spring, summer, and fall. Not "spring", "spring", and fall. Everyone of them, occur around the turning of the year, after March 21, spring barley harvest, after June 21, summer wheat harvest and around September 21, fall harvest. Remember the great lights of Genesis 1:14 were for the appointments of YHWH, and these three feasts are appointments and it takes both the sun and the moon to find them.
 
I found another scripture supporting the fourth month harvest and it tells how that Nebuchadrezzar conquered Jerusalem in the fourth month on the ninth day of the month in Jeremiah 39:2.
 
In verse 10, tells how he left the poor people which had nothing in the land of Judah and gave them vineyards and fields at the same time.
 
Jeremiah 40:7 tells how he made this man governor of the men and women and children and the poor the land of them that were not carried away to Babylon; and in verse 10 they were told to gather ye wine, and summer fruit, and oil, and put them in your vessels, and dwell in your cities that ye have taken". verse 12 says " even all the Jews returned out of all places whether they were driven and came to land of Judah, to Gedaliah, unto Mizpah, and gathered wine and summer fruit very much.
 
To show there were no breaks Chapter 41:1 says that "it came to pass in the seventh month"
When you read Chapter 39 you will see that the harvest was in the fourth month and not in the third month, same as in Nehemiah Chapter 13:15 where Nehemiah
Observed men treading the wine press and bringing in sheaves/wheat on the Sabbath day. In both cases they were gathering wine and summer fruit (wheat) the spring wheat is gone when the wine and summer fruit/wheat are gathered.
 
I am still waiting for one scripture for a harvest in third month.
 
Brother Arnold
 
For us to better understand how they counted Pentecost, let us go to the eyewitnesses that lived at the time of our Saviour, to see how it was done.
Philo shows that the 50th day count to Pentecost "begins" the morrow "AFTER" the seventh Sabbath complete or from the 50th day after the wave sheaf, and therefore the 50th day after the WAVE SHEAF is NOT Pentecost. Below are plain instructions from the men that lived at that time, which show that the 50th day is counted from the day "after" the seventh Sabbath complete.
Quoting from Philo The Special Laws 11 page 584, chapter 30 (176)
"THE SEVENTH FESTIVAL
XXX. (176) The "solemn assembly" on the occasion of the "festival" of the sheaf having such great privileges, is the "prelude" to "another" festival of still "greater importance"; for from "this day" the "fiftieth day" is reckoned, making up the sacred number of seven sevens, with the addition of a "unit" as a seal to the whole; and this festival, being that of the first fruits of the corn, has derived its name of Pentecost from the number of "fifty,"
 
From the above we see they kept the 16th of the 1st month as a feast and solemn assembly when they waved the sheaf and it was called a "prelude" or introduction to "ANOTHER" feast that was "more important" than the "first" feast/16th that was held on the 16th ( Why?) because it was from "this feast" that the 50th day is reckoned which consists of seven sevens plus one which equals 50 which means Pentecost. (How much plainer can it get?????)
This 2nd feast that is more important than the 1st feast, or 16th, is the morrow after the seventh Sabbath complete and is the day that people are keeping for the traditional Pentecost, but according to chapter 30 above it is the feast that is "greater" than that of the "wave sheaf" feast because the 50th day is reckoned from it, (the greater feast) and Pentecost is the "GREATEST" feast. This is in harmony with Lev-23 where it says "even unto the morrow AFTER the seventh Sabbath shall you number fifty days and then bring a new meat offering".
 
Now to show a living EXAMPLE where it was done as described above and where Pentecost was kept 50 days "after" the seventh Sabbath complete.
 
Quoting from Philo page 704, chapter eight (65) ON THE CONTEMPLATIVE LIFE V111 (65) we read about a group of Orthodox Jews called Therapeutae and Therapeutrides, Philo says, "they devoted their whole lives and themselves to the knowledge in contemplation of the affairs of nature in accordance with the most sacred admonitions and "precepts of the Prophet Moses." V111 (64) after saying this he continues by saying,
"(65) In the first place, these men "assemble" at the "end" of seven weeks, venerating not only the simple week of seven days, but also its multiplied power, for they know it to be pure and always virgin; and "it" is "a "prelude" and a kind of "forefeast" of the "greatest" feast, which is assigned to the number fifty,"
 
We have went from the wave sheaf feast that was on the 16th of Aviv to a "greater feast" that was on the morrow AFTER the 7th Sabbath complete to the "GREAST" feast/Pentecost.
Acording to Philo, there were 2 feasts before Pentecost and both were called preludes or introductions to another feast, the 1st one was the 16th (wave sheaf) which introduced the second feast which was the morrow after the seventh Sabbath complete and it was of greater importance than the 1st because from it the "GREATEST" feast Pentecost was reckoned, and according to Philo, the 2nd feast ( the one after the seventh Sabbath complete) was a kind of "fore feast" of the GREATEST feast/Pentecost that took place 50 days later.
 
This "prelude" and a kind of "fore feast" is speaking of the morrow "after" the seventh Sabbath complete, it is "not" Pentecost which takes place 50 days from "it". This forefeast was not Pentecost it is the feast that people are keeping for Pentecost today but in our Saviour's time these Orthodox Jews kept it as a prelude to the greatest feast/Pentecost which took place on the 50th day from their.
Remember the 16th, when the wave sheaf is offered, is a prelude to another festival that takes place on the morrow after the 7th Sabbath, and is of greater importance than the 16th itself because it is from this day that the 50th day is reckoned. He is not talking about the 50th day of Pentecost here, but the day the 50th day is recond from, ever one know that Pentecost is "greater" than the 16th, he is speaking of the morrow after the 7th Sabbath when the numbering to the 50 day begins and it is also a "prelude" to Pentecost, same as the 16th/feast was a prelude to the morrow after the seventh Sabbath, and we have record where Philo speaks of men keeping this second feast as a prelude and kind of forfeast to the "GREATEST" FEAST i.e. Pentecost, in other words this second feast was greater than the first feast/wave sheaf on the 16th but it was not the GREATEST feast/Pentecost which took place 50 days later.
Now to prove my interpretation of Philo is correct, I will let Philo interpret Philo, the same as I let Scripture interpret Scripture.
I will now quote from Colson's Translation of Philo to prove what I am saying is correct. Quoting from the special Laws,11 Chapter 30,
 
"The "festival" of the sheaf, which has all these grounds of precedence, indicated in the Law, is also in fact, anticipatory of another "greater feast" For it is "from it" that the 50th day is reckoned, by counting seven sevens, which are then "crowned" with the "sacred number" by the monad, which is spent in corporal image of YHWH,"
 
In speaking of the "greater feast", Philo says, "for it is "from it" that the 50th day is reckoned," (how is the reckoned???? by counting seven sevens, which are then crowned with the sacred number by the monad/one which is spent in the corporal image of YHWH. How much plainer could Philo have made it?
 
The morrow after the 7th Sabbath, is the feast of greater importance than the 16th or wave sheaf that Philo spoke of because it is a prelude or kind of forfeast to the GREATEST feast i.e. Pentecost. Same as the 16th or wave sheaf was a prelude to the 2nd feast or morrow after the seventh Sabbath.
Bottom line is that in Philo's day and in Aaron's day, the feast of Pentecost/50th day was numbered from the morrow "after" the seventh Sabbath complete as Leviticus 23 teaches.
 
Brother Arnold
 
 
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The autumn festivals came after the summer harvest, But the fall festivals were associated with greater rejoicing (Deuteronomy 16:13-15). Why the theme of rejoicing? The conclusion of a wine harvest is an appropriate time for festivities. But another reason may be that Tabernacles celebrated both the summer harvest of both wheat and grapes. Note the mention of both grain and grapes in verse 13: "Celebrate the Feast of Tabernacles for seven days after you have gathered the produce of your threshing floor and your winepress." Remember that the new wine offering was brought with the first fruits of the wheat, at Pentecost.
 
 
Doesn't this imply that the wheat and grapes were harvested in the summertime before Tabernacles?
 
 
 
 
Another fact that suggests a later Pentecost and that the "1st day of the week" is "after" the new moon, is found in Amous-8:5
 
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Amos 8:5 Saying, When will the new moon be gone, that we may sell corn? and the sabbath, that we may set forth wheat, making the ephah small, and the shekel great, and falsifying the balances by deceit?
(This proves that there are 2 back to back worship days and "then the 1st day of the week begins, and everyone knows that you can buy and sell on the 1st day of the week but with the Roman week the 1st day of the week will sometimes fall on the New moon, a day of no buying and selling.")
Verse 5. Saying, when will the new moon be gone, that we may sell corn?.... The first day of every month, on which it was forbid to sell any thing, or do any worldly business, being appointed and used for religious service; and which these carnal earthly minded men were weary of, and wanted to have over, that they might be selling their New Pentecost grain, and getting money, which they preferred to the worship of YHWH."
See
2 Kings 4:23; And he said, Wherefore wilt thou go to him to day? It is neither new moon, nor Sabbath. And she said, It shall be well.
 
We know that the true Pentecost will always fall on the last Sabbath of the 4th month or the day before the last Sabbath of the 4th month, which will always be followed by the new moon worship day and no one would be able to sell the new crop of wheat until the first fruit was waved AND the new moon and Sabbath was gone and these greedy crooks were anxious to get the new grain to market and get started as soon as the new moon was over, which ALWAYS followed the last Sabbath of the 4th month and that is why new moon and Sabbath is mentioned here together, it was the EARLIEST that anyone could possibly sell any of the new grain to city dwellers for eating. Now the Sabbath, or seventh day of the week, along with the new moon, as no buying or selling was to be done on it, so no trade or commerce was to be carried on on that day; which made it a long and wearisome one to worldly men, who wished it over, that they might be about their worldly business.
To me this proves that these people were anticipating the first day of the week which "always follows" the new moon, so they could begin cheating the people when selling this new Pentecost wheat harvest, which now could be legally eaten and everyone loves fresh bread and those that were not farmers would buy from them.
 
THE COUNT TO PENTECOST "PROVES" LUNAR SABBATHS
 
 
The only way the Hebrew speaking Jews and the Greek speaking Jews could have arrived at Pentecost on the same day is by Lunar Sabbaths. This is an absolute because if one group counted from the 16th and the other from the Roman weekly Sabbath that falls within the week of Unleavened Bread, they would not be there at the same time unless the Roman Sabbath happened to fall on the 15th. the word Sabbath in Leviticus 23:11 is the Hebrew word for the weekly Sabbath and thousands of people have this knowledge including the Hebrew speaking Jews.
 
 
On the other hand, thousands of people including the Greek speaking Jews have the knowledge that the morrow after the Sabbath is referring to the 16th of the first month every year because in the Greek Septuagint it says, "on the morrow of the first day the Priest shall of wave it" The first day is referring to the 15th or first day of unleavened bread, and the morrow after the 15th, (or 1st day), is the 16th.
 
 
We know from the book of Acts that they where Greek speaking Jews as well as Hebrew speaking Jews from every nation kindred and tongue, including Greek speaking Jews from Alexander Egypt, gathered for the day of Pentecost. Some read from the Septuagint and some read from the Hebrew text and both knew that the 15th was the weekly Sabbath because they were at Pentecost on the same day.
 
 
The point is this, when these Greek speaking Jews read the Septuagint and started their count for Pentecost on the morrow after the 15th every year and they arrived on the same day as the Hebrew speaking Jews that began the count on the morrow after the weekly Sabbath, which can only mean one thing and that is that the Hebrew speaking Jews understood the 15th to be the weekly Shabbat and they started their count on the same day as the Greek speaking Jews that read from the Septuagint.
 
In other words, these thousands of people on both sides are half right because the ones that believe the morrow after the 15th, which is the 16th, is right and the ones that believe the morrow after the weekly Sabbath, which is the 16th is right also because the 15th is the weekly Sabbath but neither one understands that their fathers had compromised the lunar week for the Roman week.
 
Josephus and Philo records that the count for Pentecost begins on the 16th which is the morrow after the Sabbath and the Septuagint was read and quoted from, same as the Hebrew text, and everyone was at Pentecost on the same day and there was no controversy among them concerning the weekly Sabbath or Pentecost until they adopted this false Roman week.
 
 
The Universally Jewish Encyclopedia and another 100-year-old Jewish Encyclopedia both records that ancient Israel originally kept lunar weeks and lunar Sabbaths.
 
Philo the Jew, which lived at the same time our Saviour did, records that the weeks were by the moon and also Clement of Alexander. Most people know that the month were originally by the moon but failed to realize that the 4 phases of the moon were used for the weeks. For more information see
www.lunarsabbath.org <http://www.lunarsabbath.org>
 
 
 
Brother Arnold
 
The following supports a later Pentecost.
 
 
In Philo,
it says there are "THREE" months per "season".
 
 
SPECIAL LAWS, IV (235)
(235) 鈥. "for as the atmosphere is divided by an equal number of months into winter, and spring, and summer, and autumn, it completes the whole year by allotting "three month" to each season;"
 
And in ALLEGORICAL INTERPRETATION IV (11) it says that at "three" "seasons" of the year the males are to appear before YHWH.
 
This would have to be one appearance in the "spring", one in the "summer", and one in the "fall", "NOT" two in the spring season as the traditional Pentecost is, none in the summer, and one in the fall.
 
IV. (11) "Be thou therefore O my soul in all your entirety always visible to Creator, for "three" separate times, that is to say for time divided according to a threefold division; not drawing after you the female passion arising from external sensation, but offering up to him manly thought, the encourager to and practiser of persevering courage. "For at "three seasons" of the year every male must "appear" before the Master the Creator of Israel" this is the injunction of the Holy Scriptures".
 
What could be plainer?
 
Three months per season will put Pentecost in the summer season, "not" the spring and the Jews understood that the "wheat" was a more honorable grain and that YHWH deferred the first fruits of it until the summer season. (see below)
 
 
Philo says that barley holds "second" place in honor and wheat the "first" place and the first fruits is deferred to a more suitable season. (summer, NOT spring)
 
SPECIAL LAWS 11 XXIX. (175)
 
"That portion of the food which was honoured with the second place, namely, barley, was ordered by the Law to be offered as first fruits; for the "first" honours were assigned to "wheat", of which it has deferred the offering of the "first fruits", as being more honorable, to a more suitable "season."
 
This teaches us that there is a first fruit offering of barley in the "spring", and then three months later there is a first fruit offering of wheat in the "summer", which is a more honorable grain for a more suitable season, then three months later there is a first fruit offering of the fruit of the trees in the "autumn", and three months later the cycle begins anew with the spring barley again and this completes the whole year. This does not harmonize with the tradition of today where there is "two" first fruits in the spring season, (Passover and Pentecost) none in the summer season, and one in the fall (Tabernacles). The scripture speaks a lot of the summer fruit and the summer harvest.
 
It is agriculturally impossible for wheat to be mature enough to harvest at 7 weeks after Pesach, if planted in the first month. If the Son of YHWH represented the corn of wheat that has to first die before it can germinate and spring forth out of the ground representing his resurrection on the 3rd day after Pesach and then the maturation of this wheat for APP 90 something days before there can be both a physical harvest and a spiritual harvest of souls receiving the Son as the Bread of Life which came down from above. And also receiving the Law of the Spirit of Mashiach which has made us free from the Law of Sin and death. Romans 8.
 
He was planted in the first month and He typed himself as being wheat in John-12:24 and a true allegory would be to bring forth fruit and a harvest in about 90 to 100 days. Why did He wait 50 days from his death according to tradition, for the harvest of souls on the day of Pentecost, when it takes wheat almost twice that long to harvest? He was also known as a more perfect and desired grain than barley. He will gather his wheat into the barn. The barley is less honorable than wheat and could be referring to Old Testament saints and the wheat referring to those that are in the last days that really did not see all the signs and wonders as the Old Testament saints had. I believe a person would be more honorable who believes and have not seen because He said "blessed" are they who believes and have not seen.
 
John 20-
28 "And Thomas answered and said unto him, My Master and my Creator. <QVB://0/anchor/29>29YHWH OUR RIGHTEOUSNESS saith unto him, Thomas, because thou hast seen me, thou hast believed: "blessed" are they that have not seen, and yet have believed.
 
I believe it is more blessed and honorable to believe without having seen, unlike the barley harvest the wheat harvest is truly walking in faith and in the Old Testament the men that were really honorable and blessed were the ones that were looking ahead to something they had not yet seen but by faith believed YHWH
 
 
 
John-12:24 says,
 
 
 
24鈥.."
Verily, verily, I say unto you, Except a corn of "wheat" fall into the ground and die, it abideth alone: but if it die, it bringeth forth much fruit. <QVB://0/anchor/25>25He that loveth his life shall lose it; and he that hateth his life in this world shall keep it unto life eternal. <QVB://0/anchor/26>鈥.
<QVB://0/anchor/27>
27Now is my soul troubled; and what shall I say? Father, save me from this hour: but for this cause came I unto this hour. <QVB://0/anchor/28>鈥.. <QVB://0/anchor/32>32And I, if I be lifted up from the earth, will draw all men unto me. <QVB://0/anchor/33>33This he said, signifying what death he should die".
 
Once again a corn of wheat can NOT bring forth a harvest in 50 days and I can not picture our Saviour not using a true analogy.
 
At Passover they ate "old bread" and old "wine" in the first month, before the 16th, and on the day of Pentecost then ate "new bread and new wine" in the 4th month.
 
 
 
Joel-3:12-
12
Let the heathen be wakened, and come up to the valley of Jehoshaphat: for there will I sit to judge all the heathen round about. <QVB://0/anchor/13>13Put ye in the sickle, for the "harvest is ripe": come, get you down; for the "press is full", the vats overflow; for their wickedness is great. <QVB://0/anchor/14>14Multitudes, multitudes in the valley of decision: for the day of YHWH is near in the valley of decision. <QVB://0/anchor/15>15The sun and the moon shall be darkened, and the stars shall withdraw their shining. <QVB://0/anchor/16>16The MASTER also shall roar out of Zion, and utter his voice from Jerusalem; and the heavens and the earth shall shake: but the MASTER will be the hope of his people, and the strength of the children of Israel. <QVB://0/anchor/17>17So shall ye know that I am the MASTER your Creator dwelling in Zion, my holy mountain: then shall Jerusalem be holy, and there shall no strangers pass through her any more.
<QVB://0/anchor/18>
18And it shall come to pass in that day, that the mountains shall drop down new wine, and the hills shall flow with milk, and all the rivers of Judah shall flow with waters, and a fountain shall come forth of the house of the MASTER, and shall water the valley of Shittim. <QVB://0/anchor/19>19Egypt shall be a desolation, and Edom shall be a desolate wilderness, for the violence against the children of Judah, because they have shed innocent blood in their land. <QVB://0/anchor/20>20But Judah shall dwell for ever, and Jerusalem from generation to generation. <QVB://0/anchor/21>21For I will cleanse their blood that I have not cleansed: for the MASTER dwelleth in Zion.
Notice: it say's that the harvest is "ripe" and the "fats" (wine presses) are full, which is agriculturally "impossible" with the traditional Pentecost, same as in
Nemiah-13:15 where they were treading the wine presses and bring in sheaves on the Sabbath day.
 
Mark2:22
22And no man putteth new wine into old bottles: else the new wine doth burst the bottles, and the wine is spilled, and the bottles will be marred: but new wine must be put into new bottles. <QVB://0/anchor/23>23And it came to pass, that he went through the corn fields on the sabbath day; and his disciples began, as they went, to pluck the ears of corn".
 
Same as
Nehemiah Chapter 13:15:
In those days saw I in Judah some treading "wine presses" on the sabbath, and bringing in "sheaves", and lading asses; as also wine, grapes, and figs, and all manner of burdens, which they brought into Jerusalem on the sabbath day: and I testified against them in the day wherein they sold victuals.
 
 
Acts-2:
13Others mocking said, These men are full of new wine.
<QVB://0/anchor/14>
14But Peter, standing up with the eleven, lifted up his voice, and said unto them, Ye men of Judaea, and all ye that dwell at Jerusalem, be this known unto you, and hearken to my words: <QVB://0/anchor/15>15For these are not drunken, as ye suppose, seeing it is but the third hour of the day.
 
He also said He was the vine and a vine that is planted in the first month/spring is not expected to produce fruit in 50 days, no more than a corn of wheat is.
 
 
What does Pentecost actually commemorate? We know that Passover and Tabernacles commemorates leaving Egypt's bondage (type of sin). Both the 1st and 7th months are duplets in many ways.
In the spring season of the first month, a natural lamb was killed which was a type of the DEATH of the true lamb of YHWH.
 
The only thing I see that Pentecost commemorates is the giving of the Law at Mt. Sinai, which was written on "two" tables of stone and was fulfilled in Acts on the day of Pentecost when the Holy Spirit was poured out and the Law was written in our hearts/minds which both are also made up of two sides, the right and the left.
 
I don't know of any major event to commemorate at this season other than the giving of the Law which was written on two tables of stone, 50 days after the seventh lunar Sabbath complete.
 
1.
Exodus 24:12 <http://biblegateway.com/passage/?book_id=2&chapter=24&verse=12&version=9&context=verse>
And YHWH said unto Moses, Come up to me into the mount, and be there: and I will "give" thee "tables of stone," and a "Law", and commandments which "I have written"; that thou mayest teach them.
Exodus 24:11-13 <http://biblegateway.com/passage/?book_id=2&chapter=24&verse=11&end_verse=13&version=9&context=context>
(in Context) Exodus 24 <http://biblegateway.com/passage/?book_id=2&chapter=24&version=9&context=chapter> (Whole Chapter)
 
Notice: it says He "will" give tables of stone, and a Law, and commandments which He "had written"; that Moses may teach them. It does not say in this verse "when" He would give him the tables of stone and a Law and commandments that "He had written" that Moses may teach them but in several other verses it is specific as two when He actually gave Moses the tablets and Law that He promised in this verse. Moses went up to receive the written Law, on tables of stone, and that happened at the end of forty days and forty nights, or 50 days after the seventh lunar Sabbath complete.
 
 
The evidence shows that this was done at the "end" of the 40 days and 40 nights, not at the beginning.
 
 
1.
Exodus 31:18 <http://biblegateway.com/passage/?book_id=2&chapter=31&verse=18&version=9&context=verse>
And he gave unto Moses, when he had made an "end" of communing with him upon mount Sinai, two tables of testimony, tables of stone, written with the finger of The Master.
Exodus 31:17-19 <http://biblegateway.com/passage/?book_id=2&chapter=31&verse=17&end_verse=19&version=9&context=context>
(in Context) Exodus 31 <http://biblegateway.com/passage/?book_id=2&chapter=31&version=9&context=chapter> (Whole Chapter)
 
Once again this was at the end of the 40 days and 40 nights which is 50 days after the seventh lunar Sabbath complete, if you understand that they came to the mount in the 3rd month, on the self same day that they went forth out of Egypt's bondage, which would be the 15th or 16th depending on how you counted. (Ex-19:3-4) either date can be made to work, but only one is right.
 
Deuteronomy 9:8-11 <http://biblegateway.com/passage/?book_id=5&chapter=9&verse=11&version=9&context=verse>
9
When I was gone up into the mount to "receive" the tables of stone, even the tables of the covenant which YHWH made with you, then I abode in the mount forty days and forty nights, I neither did eat bread nor drink water: <QVB://0/anchor/10>10And YHWH delivered unto me two tables of stone written with the finger of YHWH; and on them was written according to all the words, which YHWH spake with you in the mount out of the midst of the fire in the day of the assembly. <QVB://0/anchor/11>11And it came to pass at the "end" of forty days and forty nights, that YHWH gave me the two tables of stone, even the tables of the covenant.
Deuteronomy 9:10-12 <http://biblegateway.com/passage/?book_id=5&chapter=9&verse=10&end_verse=12&version=9&context=context> (in Context) Deuteronomy 9 <http://biblegateway.com/passage/?book_id=5&chapter=9&version=9&context=chapter> (Whole Chapter)
 
It is "conclusive" that the tables of stone were given at the end of the 40 days and 40 nights which is exactly 50 days after the seventh lunar Sabbath complete. There's nothing conclusive that the Law and tables of stone was given on any other date and there's nothing else that happened at this time to commemorate, except the giving of the Law, as far as I know of.
 
 
Moses said a prophet like unto me shall YHWH raise up, and in Luke it says,
 
Luke 4:2 <http://biblegateway.com/passage/?book_id=49&chapter=4&verse=2&version=9&context=verse>
Being forty days tempted of the devil. And in those days he did eat nothing: and when they were ended, he afterward hungered.
Luke 4:1-3 <http://biblegateway.com/passage/?book_id=49&chapter=4&verse=1&end_verse=3&version=9&context=context>
(in Context) Luke 4 <http://biblegateway.com/passage/?book_id=49&chapter=4&version=9&context=chapter> (Whole Chapter)
 
 
 
Deuteronomy 5:22 <http://biblegateway.com/passage/?book_id=5&chapter=5&verse=22&version=9&context=verse>
These words YHWH spake unto all your assembly in the mount out of the midst of the fire, of the cloud, and of the thick darkness, with a great voice: and he added no more. And he wrote them in two tables of stone, and delivered them unto me. (Delivered at the end of the 40 days and nights, i.e. 5o days after the seventh lunar Sabbath. There's no question as to when they were delivered to Moses. The question is, is this the day or event to commemorate? If not what other major event happened at this time that was so important as to make it one of the Chags?
 
 
EVERY one of the feasts of YHWH and Holy days commemorates something, including the weekly Sabbath, why not Pentecost?
 
 
2.
Exodus 32:15 <http://biblegateway.com/passage/?book_id=2&chapter=32&verse=15&version=9&context=verse>
And Moses turned, and went down from the mount, and the two tables of the testimony were in his hand: the tables were written on both their sides; on the one side and on the other were they written.
Exodus 32:14-16 <http://biblegateway.com/passage/?book_id=2&chapter=32&verse=14&end_verse=16&version=9&context=context>
(in Context) Exodus 32 <http://biblegateway.com/passage/?book_id=2&chapter=32&version=9&context=chapter> (Whole Chapter)
3.
Exodus 34:1 <http://biblegateway.com/passage/?book_id=2&chapter=34&verse=1&version=9&context=verse>
And YHWH said unto Moses, Hew thee two tables of stone like unto the first: and I will write upon these tables the words that were in the first tables, which thou brakest.
Exodus 34:1-3 <http://biblegateway.com/passage/?book_id=2&chapter=34&verse=1&end_verse=3&version=9&context=context>
(in Context) Exodus 34 <http://biblegateway.com/passage/?book_id=2&chapter=34&version=9&context=chapter> (Whole Chapter)
 
 
If these tables of stone were not important, why did YHWH command Moses to make more? i.e. if Moses had already been given the Law without the stones, why make more stones? The stones were what YHWH promised to give mosses in Ex-24:12 when He said come up into the Mt and I will give you tables of stone and a Law that you may teach them. This proves the Law was given at the end of the 4o days and nights.
 
 
 
4.
Exodus 34:4 <http://biblegateway.com/passage/?book_id=2&chapter=34&verse=4&version=9&context=verse>
And he hewed two tables of stone like unto the first; and Moses rose up early in the morning, and went up unto mount Sinai, as YHWH had commanded him, and took in his hand the two tables of stone.
Exodus 34:3-5 <http://biblegateway.com/passage/?book_id=2&chapter=34&verse=3&end_verse=5&version=9&context=context>
(in Context) Exodus 34 <http://biblegateway.com/passage/?book_id=2&chapter=34&version=9&context=chapter> (Whole Chapter)
5.
Exodus 34:29 <http://biblegateway.com/passage/?book_id=2&chapter=34&verse=29&version=9&context=verse>
And it came to pass, when Moses came down from mount Sinai with the two tables of testimony in Moses' hand, when he came down from the mount, that Moses wist not that the skin of his face shone while he talked with him.
Exodus 34:28-30 <http://biblegateway.com/passage/?book_id=2&chapter=34&verse=28&end_verse=30&version=9&context=context>
(in Context) Exodus 34 <http://biblegateway.com/passage/?book_id=2&chapter=34&version=9&context=chapter> (Whole Chapter)
 
The Prophet Moses had the Law (will of the Father) in his hands and The Prophet YHWH OUR RIGHTEOUSNESS had it in his heart. (The Law is the will of the Father and He said low I come to do thy will oh Father)
Deuteronomy 4:13 <http://biblegateway.com/passage/?book_id=5&chapter=4&verse=13&version=9&context=verse>
And he declared unto you his covenant, which he commanded you to perform, even ten commandments; and he wrote them upon two tables of stone.
 
 
Deuteronomy 4:12-14 <http://biblegateway.com/passage/?book_id=5&chapter=4&verse=12&end_verse=14&version=9&context=context>
(in Context) Deuteronomy 4 <http://biblegateway.com/passage/?book_id=5&chapter=4&version=9&context=chapter> (Whole Chapter)
Deuteronomy 5:21-23 <http://biblegateway.com/passage/?book_id=5&chapter=5&verse=21&end_verse=23&version=9&context=context>
(in Context) Deuteronomy 5 <http://biblegateway.com/passage/?book_id=5&chapter=5&version=9&context=chapter> (Whole Chapter)
 
Deuteronomy 9:10 <http://biblegateway.com/passage/?book_id=5&chapter=9&verse=10&version=9&context=verse>
And YHWH delivered unto me two tables of stone written with the finger of The Master; and on them was written according to all the words, which YHWH spake with you in the mount out of the midst of the fire in the day of the assembly.
Deuteronomy 9:9-11 <http://biblegateway.com/passage/?book_id=5&chapter=9&verse=9&end_verse=11&version=9&context=context>
(in Context) Deuteronomy 9 <http://biblegateway.com/passage/?book_id=5&chapter=9&version=9&context=chapter> (Whole Chapter)
 
 
 
 
The question is when were they signed, sealed, and delivered? The above shows they were actually given to Moses to be taught, at the end of the forty days. The tables of stone were very important because man can only remember so much at a time.
It seems the whole is referring to the tables of stone and Law and commandments etc. as synonymous and if so, the Law was given at the end of the 40 days and 40 nights. This makes the word Chag that was spoken of by Aaron ligament. (Ex-32;5)
 
 
6.
Deuteronomy 9:15 <http://biblegateway.com/passage/?book_id=5&chapter=9&verse=15&version=9&context=verse>
So I turned and came down from the mount, and the mount burned with fire: and the two tables of the covenant were in my "two" hands.
Deuteronomy 9:14-16 <http://biblegateway.com/passage/?book_id=5&chapter=9&verse=14&end_verse=16&version=9&context=context>
(in Context) Deuteronomy 9 <http://biblegateway.com/passage/?book_id=5&chapter=9&version=9&context=chapter> (Whole Chapter)
 
Moses may have been getting tired here because before he said hand, singular
 
 
 
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Luke 4:2 <http://biblegateway.com/passage/?book_id=49&chapter=4&verse=2&version=9&context=verse>
Being forty days tempted of the devil. And in those days he did eat nothing: and when they were ended, he afterward hungered.
Luke 4:1-3 <http://biblegateway.com/passage/?book_id=49&chapter=4&verse=1&end_verse=3&version=9&context=context>
(in Context) Luke 4 <http://biblegateway.com/passage/?book_id=49&chapter=4&version=9&context=chapter> (Whole Chapter)
 
 
I now have no problem accepting that Pentecost commemorates the event of the giving of the Law on Mt Sinai, which was 5o days after the seventh lunar Sabbath complete.
 
 
1.
Deuteronomy 33:2 <http://biblegateway.com/passage/?book_id=5&chapter=33&verse=2&version=9&context=verse>
And he said, YHWH came from Sinai, and rose up from Seir unto them; he shined forth from mount Paran, and he "came" with ten thousands of saints: from his right hand went a fiery Law for them.
Deuteronomy 33:1-3 <http://biblegateway.com/passage/?book_id=5&chapter=33&verse=1&end_verse=3&version=9&context=context>
(in Context) Deuteronomy 33 <http://biblegateway.com/passage/?book_id=5&chapter=33&version=9&context=chapter> (Whole Chapter)
2.
Jude 1:14 <http://biblegateway.com/passage/?book_id=72&chapter=1&verse=14&version=9&context=verse>
And Enoch also, the seventh from Adam, prophesied of these, saying, Behold, YHWH cometh with ten thousands of his saints,
Jude 1:13-15 <http://biblegateway.com/passage/?book_id=72&chapter=1&verse=13&end_verse=15&version=9&context=context>
(in Context) Jude 1 <http://biblegateway.com/passage/?book_id=72&chapter=1&version=9&context=chapter> (Whole Chapter)
 
 
The above is the fulfillment of Enoch's Prophesy about the coming of YHWH with 10 thousands of His saints, (At Pentecost) which could be a duel prophecy. We know YHWH came once at the Mt, according to Moses (ON Pentecost and gave the Law) and we know He came again in Acts on the day of Pentecost, when the Holy Spirit was poured out, and I believe the prophecies in Joel, Rev, and others show that the next coming for Judgment and to gather His "wheat" will be at Pentecost also. I have a lot on this but have not put it on paper yet.
 
 
All the feast of YHWH commemorates some great work of YHWH and He seemed displeased that men kept the enjoyable feasts but had forgotten why, or the true reason behind keeping the feast, therefore they can't be acknowledging what He had done at that time, and give Him Glory.
Isaiah 5:12 <http://biblegateway.com/passage/?book_id=29&chapter=5&verse=12&version=9&context=verse>
And the harp, and the viol, the tabret, and pipe, and wine, are in their feasts: but they regard not the "work" of YHWH, neither consider the operation of his hands.
Isaiah 5:11-13 <http://biblegateway.com/passage/?book_id=29&chapter=5&verse=11&end_verse=13&version=9&context=context>
(in Context) Isaiah 5 <http://biblegateway.com/passage/?book_id=29&chapter=5&version=9&context=chapter> (Whole Chapter)
 
 
 
It seems that all the feast of YHWH points to or is connected or represented in the leaving Egypt event. Unleavened Bread, Tabernacles, Day of Atonement, Pentecost, and the weekly Sabbath feast because they were given rest from Egypt's burdens on this day (Deut-5th chapter). I can't think of a commanded feast that can not in some way be linked to leaving Egypt.
 
Brother Arnold
 
Every one of the feast of YHWH is to commemorate a major event, without exception, even the weekly Sabbath feast, and there is no pinpointed major event 50 days from wave sheaf. They are three commanded major feasts called Chags and we know that two of them are connected with leaving Egypt's bondage on the 15th, where they had no Laws of freedom.
Could the feast of Pentecost be the major event connected with the giving of the Law at Mount Sinai which gave them liberty and not bondage? If so, all we have to do is pinpoint what day this event took place and then we will know if the verse in Leviticus 23, "even unto the morrow "after" the seventh Sabbath complete, shall you number 50 days" is referring to 50 days after the wave sheaf or 50 days after the seventh Sabbath complete. We do have a pinpointed given of the Law 50 days "after" the seventh lunar Sabbath complete, a day that Aaron called a Chag to YHWH.
 
 
Brother Arnold
The great lights are for appointments and at each app- there is something happening in the sky- march 21st- June 21st- sept 21st, there is nothing happening with the lights may 21st, for a 3rd month Pentecost and Gen- says the lights are for Appointments.
 
 
Leviticus 23: 15-18 and unless it is understood to number 50 days after the seventh Sabbath complete, it will not bring you to the years turning/end which Exodus 23:16 and Exodus 34:23 requires for this feast,
Exodus 23:16
16And the feast of harvest, the firstfruits of thy labours, which thou hast sown in the field: and the feast of ingathering, which is in the end of the year, when thou hast gathered in thy labours out of the field. 17Three times in the year all thy males shall appear"
Both these harvests are around the years end/turnings.
Exodus 34:23
21Six days thou shalt work, but on the seventh day thou shalt rest: in earing time and in harvest thou shalt rest. 22And thou shalt observe the feast of weeks, of the firstfruits of wheat harvest, and the feast of ingathering at the year's end. 23Thrice in the year"
The years end/turning of the sun is another way of useing the great LIGHTS for marking the appointments, remember Genesis 1:14, LET THEM be signs and SEASONS. The sun does something special around all three of these harvests seasons and even in the first month around March 21,/spring and again around June 21st/summer and again around September 21st/fall, these are around the three major harvest, spring, summer, fall and a special victim/chag is to be brought to honor YHWH three times in the year and none is to appear before Him empty.
I would like to make a side not here where it says to rest in earring time and in harvest which is a great embarrassment to the Roman Sabbaths keepers when their Sabbath falls on the day that you are put the cycle to the corn/16th, which will never happen with lunar Sabbaths, because with YHWH's calendar you will never have a commanded no work day, fall on a commanded work day which is confusion that YHWH is not the author of.
 
This victims are actually chags or special offerings besides all other offerings and you are to offer chags/victims on each one of the seven days of the feast of Tabernacles and of Unleavened Bread and on the Feast of Pentecost.
The Hebrew word Chag is used App 53 times in scripture and brother Mathew suggests that 3 or 4 of these times is not referring to the victim/Chag that can be conclusily proven around the other 50 times, which I will deal with next, this is a prelude to my response which will follow in my next post.
 
Brother Arnold
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
The Day of Atonement-from the evening to evening shall you keep my Sabbath-shall you number 50 days-the Sabbath is to be kept beginning at evening and the numbering for the 50th day is to began on the morrow AFTER the seventh Sabbath complete
 
 
 
The earliest they could have scripturally left their camp where they began receiving manna for six days would be on the 23rd of the second month because the 22nd is the weekly Sabbath and assuming they only took a week's supply of water, which probably would have been at least a 10 to 14 day supply, not knowing when they would find more, but if they only took a week's supply of water and after it was all gone and 2 more days had pasted, when they were panicking and saying they were dieing of thirst. Even with this understanding they would be on the 2nd day of the third month and they still had to fight with Amelek AFTER that they prayed and YHWH gave them water.
At least two days passed AFTER that because Moses said tomorrow go out and fight Amelek and the battle lasted all day. Now assuming they left without any rest and went straight to the mount, it would be on the fourth day of the third month. I believe there was wounded on both sides because the battle went back and forth as Moses hands were lifted and there had to be time for the wounded to heal as soon as the battle was over
 
They had camped for at least a week at the last camp before Refradim when they began getting manna and their next camp after Refridim would be a year. Why not two weeks at Refdim which is plural for rests and has the root of healing healings
 
 
didn't get to mt until 16th.
 
 
 
 
New
 
And ye shall count unto you from the morrow after the Sabbath, from the day that ye brought the sheaf of the wave offering; seven Sabbaths shall be complete:
 
Even unto the morrow after the seventh Sabbath shall ye number fifty days; and ye shall offer a new meat offering unto YHWH.
 
 
i.e. even the same way you count seven Sabbath from the morrow after the Sabbath from the day you brought the sheaf of the wave offering, you number 50 days from the morrow after the seventh Sabbath complete.
 
I believe the Word "even" can be referring to the same way that you counted from the morrow after the Sabbath, seven Sabbath complete, you are to number 50 days after the seventh Sabbath complete and then bring a new meat offering from the summer wheat. i.e. the same way you counted seven Sabbath which began after the Sabbath, you number 50 days which begins after the seventh Sabbath. And therefore if we understand the word "even" can mean the "same as," "same way" "even so" or "likewise" "moreover" 1571 "then" "with" "yea", "assemblage" "or"
 
Likewise unto the morrow after the seventh Sabbath shall you number 50 days. i.e. same as you began counting the weeks on the morrow after the Sabbath of the wave sheaf, you number 50 days after the 7th Sabbath
 
 
 
H1571
讙旨址诐
gam
gam
By contraction from an unused root meaning to gather; properly assemblage; used only adverbially also, even, yea, though; often repeated as correlation both... and:-again, alike, also, (so much) as (soon), both (so) . . . and, but, either . . . or, even, for all, (in) likewise (manner), moreover, nay . . . neither, one, then (-refore), though, what, with, yea.
 
 
 
 
H5704
注址讚
鈥沘d
ad
Properly the same as
H5703 <about:blanksteplinkto0%200000005765> (used as a preposition, adverb or conjugation; especially with a preposition); as far (or long, or much) as, whether of space (even unto) or time (during, while, until) or degree (equally with):-against, and, as, at, before, by (that), even (to), for (-asmuch as), [hither-] to, + how long, into, as long (much) as, (so) that, till, toward, until, when, while, (+ as) yet.
 
 
 
H5703
注址讚
鈥沘d
ad
From
H5710 <about:blanksteplinkto0%200000005772>; properly a (peremptory) terminus, that is, (by implication) duration, in the sense of perpetuity (substantially as a noun, either with or without a preposition):-eternity, ever (-lasting, -more), old, perpetually, + world without end.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
H6153
注侄专侄讘
鈥沞reb
eh'-reb
From
H6150 <about:blanksteplinkto0%200000006216>; dusk:- + day, even (-ing, tide), night.
 
H853
讗值转
'e虃th
ayth
Apparently contracted from
H226 <about:blanksteplinkto0%200000000233> in the demonstrative sense of entity; properly self (but generally used to point out more definitely the object of a verb or preposition, even or namely):-(As such unrepresented in English.)
 
 
 
 
 
H226
讗讜止转
'o虃th
oth
Probably from
H225 <about:blanksteplinkto0%200000000232> (in the sense of appearing); a signal (literally or figuratively), as a flag, beacon, monument, omen, prodigy, evidence, etc.:-mark, miracle, (en-) sign, token.
 
 
 
H225
讗讜旨转
'u虃th
ooth
A primitive root; properly to come, that is, (impliedly) to assent:-consent.
 
H389
讗址讱职
'ak
ak
Akin to
H403 <about:blanksteplinkto0%200000000412>; a particle of affirmation, surely; hence (by limitation) only:-also, in any wise, at least, but, certainly, even, howbeit, nevertheless, notwithstanding, only, save, surely of a surety, truly, verily, + wherefore, yet (but).
 
 
H403
讗指讻值谉
'a虃ke虃n
aw-kane'
From
H3559 <about:blanksteplinkto0%200000003599> (compare H3651 <about:blanksteplinkto0%200000003692>); firmly; figuratively surely; also (adversely) but:-but, certainly, nevertheless, surely, truly, verily.
 
 
 
 
 
 
H3559
讻旨讜旨谉
ku虃n
koon
A primitive root; properly to be erect (that is, stand perpendicular);. hence (causatively) to set up, in a great variety of applications, whether literal (establish, fix, prepare, apply), or figurative (appoint, render sure, proper or prosperous):-certain (-ty), confirm, direct, faithfulness, fashion, fasten, firm, be fitted, be fixed, frame, be meet, ordain, order, perfect, (make) preparation, prepare (self), provide, make provision, (be, make) ready, right, set (aright, fast, forth), be stable, (e-) stablish, stand, tarry, X very deed.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
H3651
讻旨值谉
ke虃n
kane
From
H3559 <about:blanksteplinkto0%200000003599>; properly set upright; hence (figuratively as adjective) just; but usually (as adverb or conjugation) rightly or so (in various applications to manner, time and relation; often with other particles):- + after that (this, -ward, -wards), as . . . as, + [for-] asmuch as yet, + be (for which) cause, + following, howbeit, in (the) like (manner, -wise), X the more, right, (even) so, state, straightway, such (thing), surely, + there (where) -fore, this, thus, true, well, X you.
 
 
 
 
 
H3588
讻旨执讬
k谋虃y
kee
A primitive particle (the full form of the prepositional prefix) indicating causal relations of all kinds, antecedent or consequent; (by implication) very widely used as a relative conjugation or adverb; often largely modified by other particles annexed:-and, + (forasmuch, inasmuch, where-) as, assured [-ly], + but, certainly, doubtless, + else, even, + except, for, how, (because, in, so, than) that, + nevertheless, now, rightly, seeing, since, surely, then, therefore, + (al-) though, + till, truly, + until, when, whether, while, who, yea, yet,
 
 
 
 
 
H637
讗址祝
'aph
af
A primitive particle; meaning accession (used as an adverb or conjugation); also or yea; adversatively though:-also, + although, and (furthermore, yet), but, even, + how much less (more, rather than), moreover, with, yea.
 
 
H227
讗指讝
'a虃z
awz
A demonstrative adverb; at that time or place; also as a conjugation, therefore:-beginning, for, from, hitherto, now, of old, once, since, then, at which time, yet.
 
 
 
 
 
H5704
注址讚
鈥沘d
ad
Properly the same as
H5703 <about:blanksteplinkto0%200000005765> (used as a preposition, adverb or conjugation; especially with a preposition); as far (or long, or much) as, whether of space (even unto) or time (during, while, until) or degree (equally with):-against, and, as, at, before, by (that), even (to), for (-asmuch as), [hither-] to, + how long, into, as long (much) as, (so) that, till, toward, until, when, while, (+ as) yet.
 
 
 
H3602
讻旨指讻指讛
ka虃ka虃h
kaw'-kaw
From
H3541 <about:blanksteplinkto0%200000003581>; just so, referring to the previous or following context:-after that (this) manner, this matter, (even) so, in such a case, thus.
 
 
 
H4334
诪执讬砖讈止专 诪执讬砖讈讜止专
m谋虃ysho虃r m谋虃
ysho虃r
mee-shore', mee-shore'
From H3474 <about:blanksteplinkto0%200000003513>; a level, that is, a plain (often used (with the article prefixed) as a proper name of certain districts); figuratively concord; also straightness, that is, (figuratively) justice (sometimes adverbially justly):-equity, even place, plain, right (-eously), (made) straight, uprightness.
 
 
H1887
讛值讗
he虃'
hay
A primitive particle; lo!:-behold, lo.
 
 
 
 
H5705
注址讚
鈥沘d
ad
(Chaldee); corresponding to
H5704 <about:blanksteplinkto0%200000005766>:-X and, at, for, [hither-] to, on, till, (un-) to, until, within.
 
 
 
 
 
H518
讗执诐
'im
eem
A primitive particle; used very widely as demonstrative, lo!; interrogitive, whether?; or conditional, if, although; also Oh that!, when; hence as a negative, not:-(and, can-, doubtless, if, that) (not), + but, either, + except, + more (-over if, than), neither, nevertheless, nor, oh that, or, + save (only, -ing), seeing, since, sith, + surely (no more, none, not), though, + of a truth, + unless, + verily, when, whereas, whether, while, + yet.
 
 
H3651
讻旨值谉
ke虃n
kane
From
H3559 <about:blanksteplinkto0%200000003599>; properly set upright; hence (figuratively as adjective) just; but usually (as adverb or conjugation) rightly or so (in various applications to manner, time and relation; often with other particles):- + after that (this, -ward, -wards), as . . . as, + [for-] asmuch as yet, + be (for which) cause, + following, howbeit, in (the) like (manner, -wise), X the more, right, (even) so, state, straightway, such (thing), surely, + there (where) -fore, this, thus, true, well, X you.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Another honest look at Leviticus 23 concerning the count to Pentecost
I will conclusively prove from Scripture and Scripture along that there are two counts to Pentecost; one count is of seven Sabbaths and another count of 50 days, two separate counts.
Before we look to see what the instructions in Leviticus 23 is saying, let's see what it is not saying.
 
It does not say that we are to count seven Sabbaths complete "and then" bring a new meat offering, as the traditional Pentecosters try to make it say. You have to count seven Sabbaths complete "first" and "then" count either one or 50 days and the following will tell which.
 
Once again it does not say "even unto the morrow "after" the seventh Sabbath "shall ye" bring a new meat offering," but He did say "even unto the morrow "after" the seventh Sabbath "shall ye number 50" days and bring a new meat offering. i.e. after the seventh Sabbath complete shall ye number 50 days, but not before and then bring the new meat offering but not unto you number the 50 days after the seventh Sabbath complete.
The morrow after the seventh Sabbath is not even a part of the first count because it says even "unto" the morrow after the seventh Sabbath complete.
The first count of the Sabbaths ends after the seventh Sabbath is complete, on the morrow after the seventh Sabbath and this alone should prove that they are two separate counts, one brings you to the end of the seventh Sabbath and the 2nd count which "begins" on the morrow after the seven Sabbaths and brings you to the end of 50 days.
The day following the seventh Sabbath is not a part of the first count, the first count of the seven Sabbaths ends there, and this cannot be argued against because of the Hebrew words.
The first count consists of seven Sabbaths complete which goes up to the end of the seventh Sabbath which is also the morrow after the seventh Sabbath and then the first count ends and another count begins whether it is a count of one day as some suppose or 50 days as it says, "count 50 days" and bring the new meat offering, not one day. This will give the Pentecost wheat time to be ripe, but not in 50 days after the wave sheaf.
There are three things mentioned in the instructions concerning Pentecost,
 
Number one, ye shall count seven Sabbaths,
 
Number two, ye shall count 50 days,
 
Number three and ye shall bring a new meat offering.
 
As I have said, you do not count seven Sabbaths complete and then bring a new meat offering, but instead you count seven Sabbaths complete up unto the end of the seventh Sabbath and then number 50 days and "then" bring a new meat offering. The end of seven Sabbaths brings you to the starting point of the second count which consists of 50 days, the first count consisted of seven Sabbaths and then ended, the second count consists of 50 days and then it ends and that is when you bring the new meat offering and it will be the same day that Aaron said was a chag in Exodus 32:6 and it will be the same day the law was given to Moses.
 
The first thing they were to do is count seven Sabbaths complete.
 
The second thing they were to do was to number 50 days.
 
The third thing they were to do was to bring a new meat offering.
 
 
They were not instructed to count seven Sabbaths complete and then bring a new meat offering. They were instructed to count seven Sabbaths complete up "unto" the day after the seventh Sabbath, and then they were instructed to number 50 days but not until after they counted seven Sabbaths first. They were instructed to bring a new meat offering but not until after they numbered 50 days which numbering began after the seventh Sabbath complete.
 
If the 50 day count were to begin from the wave sheaf, it would read, "even unto the morrow "after" the seventh Sabbath "shall ye" bring a new meat offering". But He does not say shall ye bring a new meat offering "after" the seventh Sabbath, it say's shall ye number 50 days.
Every count must have a beginning and ending point, and I think we all agree that the beginning point for the seven Sabbaths complete begins on the morrow after the Sabbath when the priest waves the wave sheaf. The question is, where does this count end and the next count begin? As I have shown above, there are two count mentioned in Leviticus 23 and they were not to offer the new meat offering until "both" counts were completed. If we count seven Sabbaths complete and "then" bring a new meat offering, we are partial in the Law, but if we count seven Sabbaths complete up unto the morrow after the seventh Sabbath and then number 50 days instead of one day and then bring the new meat offering, we have fulfilled the Law.
 
Speak unto the children of Israel, and say unto them, When ye be come into the land which I give unto you, and shall reap the harvest thereof, then ye shall bring a sheaf of the firstfruits of your harvest unto the priest:
<QVB://0/anchor/11>11And he shall wave the sheaf before the LORD, to be accepted for you: on the morrow after the sabbath the priest shall wave it. 鈥︹ <QVB://0/anchor/12>
<QVB://0/anchor/15>
15And ye shall count unto you from the morrow "after" the sabbath, from the day that ye brought the sheaf of the wave offering; seven sabbaths shall be complete: <QVB://0/anchor/16>16Even unto the morrow "after" the seventh sabbath shall ye number fifty days; and ye shall offer a new meat offering unto the LORD. <QVB://0/anchor/17>
 
 
The first count goes up "even" unto/until the morrow after the seventh Sabbath and "ends", the next count begins and goes for 50 days and the text is understood as saying, "the morrow after the seventh Sabbath shall ye number 50 days," one reason it is to the understood this way is because the morrow after the seventh Sabbath is "not" included in the first count of the seven Sabbaths, the seven Sabbaths goes up until the morrow after and no further and "then" ye number 50 days and then you bring the new meet offering and not before. i.e. the first count goes even up to the morrow after the seventh Sabbath then stops and then you count 50 days and bring a new meet offering.
 
 
 
Brother Arnold
 
 
 
The Ferrar Fenton Translation of Leviticus 23:15-16 Says,
 
"You shall also count for yourselves from the day after the Sabbath that you bring the wave sheaf, seven Sabbaths. They must be complete. Then after the seventh Sabbath, you shall count fifty days, when you shall present a new offering to the EVERY LIVING"
 
This translation is in Harmony with the chag that Aaron proclaimed in Exodus 32:5 which was 50 days after the seventh lunar Sabbath complete, when counting out the weeks the two new moon worship days are not counted.
 
This translation is also in harmony with the new wine that was present on the day of Pentecost in the second chapter of the book of acts and as the prophet Joel prophesied in the second chapter of Joel.
 
 
This translation is also in harmony with the Pentecost summer wheat harvest in the fourth month.
This translation is also in harmony with the many other things that I have mentioned in the discussion of Pentecost.
 
 
 
Brother Arnold

#109 From: PWC <pwc17@...>
Date: Mon Apr 16, 2007 7:20 pm
Subject: Priestly Tabernacle Service From One Sabbath To The Next
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Dear Br. Arnold,
        Being that you agree with me that Aaron and his sons each served in the tabernacle in turns from one Sabbath to the next, we need to examine how long that period of time actually was. Let's turn to Exodus 29 where it repeatedly stated that Aaron and his sons would take turns of Seven Days each in their tabernacle service.
 
Exodus 29:29,30,35-37 (1384 Wycliffe in Modern English)
29] Forsooth (for truth) the sons of Aaron should have after him the holy cloth, which Aaron shall use, that the be balmed (anointed) therein, and their hands be sacered (sacrid/consecrated/hallowed). 30] The ilk (the same), that of his sons shall be made bishop (high priest) for him, shall use that cloth seven days, and which son shall enter into the tabernacle (tent) of witnessing, that he minister in the sanctuary. 35] Thou shall do on Aaron, and his sons, all things which I command to thee. Seven days thou shall sacer (consecrate/hallow) the hands of them, 36] and thou shall offer a veal (calf) for sin by each day to cleanse; and thou shall cleanse the alter, when thou have offered the sacrifice of cleansing, and thou shall balm (anoint) the alter into hallowing. 37] Seven days thou shall cleanse and hallow the alter .....
 
Exodus 29:29,30,35-37 (1525 Tyndale)
29] And the holye garmentes of Aaron shalbe his sonnes after him, to anoynte them therin, and to fyll their handes therin. 30] And that sonne that is preast in his stede after him, shall put them on seuen dayes: that he go in to the tabernacle of witnesse, to ministre in the holye place.
35] And se thou do vnto Aaron and his sonnes: euen so in all thynges as I haue commaunded thee: that thou fyll their handes seuen dayes 36] and offre euery daye an oxe for a synneoffrynge for to recocyle with all. .... 37] Seue dayes thou shalt reconcyle the alter and sanctifie it, that it maye be an alter most holye:  ....
 
Exodus 29:29,30,35-37 (1917 JPS)
29] And the holy garments of Aaron shall be for his sons after him, to be anointed in them, and to be consecrated in them. 30] Seven days shall the son that is priest in his stead put them on, even he who cometh into the tent of meeting to minister in the holy place. 35]  And thus shalt thou do unto Aaron, and to his sons, according to all that I have commanded thee; seven days shalt thou consecrate them. 36] And every day shalt thou offer the bullock of sin-offering, beside the other offerings of atonement; and thou shalt do the purification upon the altar when thou makest atonement for it; and thou shalt anoint it, to sanctify it. 37] Seven days thou shalt make atonement for the altar, ....

Exodus 29:29,30,35-37 (1952 RSV)
29: "The holy garments of Aaron shall be for his sons after him, to be anointed in them and ordained in them. 30: The son who is priest in his place shall wear them seven days, when he comes into the tent of meeting to minister in the holy place. 35: "Thus you shall do to Aaron and to his sons, according to all that I have commanded you; through seven days shall you ordain them, 36: and every day you shall offer a bull as a sin offering for atonement. Also you shall offer a sin offering for the altar, when you make atonement for it, and shall anoint it, to consecrate it. 37: Seven days you shall make atonement for the altar ....
 
From the instructions above on how Aaron was to be succeded as officiating Priest in the Tabernacle, we see that from each successive Priest would serve from one Sabbath to the next - a count of seven days. And being that you agree with me that Aaron and his sons served in the Tabernacle from one Sabbth to the next, you will have to agree then that this disproves the notion of lunar sabbaths where it is thought that there are uncounted days.
 
YashaNa.
Br. Paul

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Shalom Brother Paul,
 
I agree with you that Aaron and his sons took turns serving in the Tabernacle and those turns lasted from one Sabbath to the next.
 
Brother Arnold


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#110 From: YHWHPeople@...
Date: Wed Apr 18, 2007 6:48 pm
Subject: Re: Priestly Tabernacle Service From One Sabbath To The Next
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Shalom Brother Paul,
 
I believe they ministered from Sabbath to Sabbath which is eight days according to Josephus in Antiquity of the Jews Chapter 14- 7. (365)
 
(365) He divided them also into courses: and when he had separated the priests from them, he found of these priests twenty-four courses, sixteen of the house of Eleazar, and eight of that of Ithamar; and he ordained that one course should minister to God eight days, from Sabbath to Sabbath. (366) And thus were the courses distributed by lot, in the presence of David, and Zadok and Abiathar, the high priest, and of all the rulers:
 
From new moon to Sabbath is also
8 days I believe the first set of priest did not leave until the other set arrived which would be two sets of priest for a short time. I believe the priest ministering from Sabbath to Sabbath does not disapproving Lunar Sabbaths. Of course in your mind it is an unbroken cycle but even in this day we lunar Sabbatarians minister from one new moon to the next and from one Sabbath to the next, and we do not keep the traditional Sabbath so the scripture you quoted does not disapprove Lunar Sabbaths. The lunar weeks and Lunar Sabbaths still stand and the new moon is not counted when counting out the weeks.
 
What would disapprove lunar sabbaths is if you could give only one conclusive scripture where anyone A weekly Sabbath that was not on one of the major phases of the moon, 8th, 15th, 22nd, or 29th each month. We still have a 10,000 reward waiting for anyone who can produce a conclusive scripture where the weekly Sabbath was on any other day.
 
Brother Arnold
 
 Brother Arnold

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---- Original Message ----
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Subject: [TheTrueCommunity] Priestly Tabernacle Service From One Sabbath To The Next

Dear Br. Arnold,
        Being that you agree with me that Aaron and his sons each served in the tabernacle in turns from one Sabbath to the next, we need to examine how long that period of time actually was. Let's turn to Exodus 29 where it repeatedly stated that Aaron and his sons would take turns of Seven Days each in their tabernacle service.
 
Exodus 29:29,30,35-37 (1384 Wycliffe in Modern English)
29] Forsooth (for truth) the sons of Aaron should have after him the holy cloth, which Aaron shall use, that the be balmed (anointed) therein, and their hands be sacered (sacrid/consecrated/hallowed). 30] The ilk (the same), that of his sons shall be made bishop (high priest) for him, shall use that cloth seven days, and which son shall enter into the tabernacle (tent) of witnessing, that he minister in the sanctuary. 35] Thou shall do on Aaron, and his sons, all things which I command to thee. Seven days thou shall sacer (consecrate/hallow) the hands of them, 36] and thou shall offer a veal (calf) for sin by each day to cleanse; and thou shall cleanse the alter, when thou have offered the sacrifice of cleansing, and thou shall balm (anoint) the alter into hallowing. 37] Seven days thou shall cleanse and hallow the alter .....
 
Exodus 29:29,30,35-37 (1525 Tyndale)
29] And the holye garmentes of Aaron shalbe his sonnes after him, to anoynte them therin, and to fyll their handes therin. 30] And that sonne that is preast in his stede after him, shall put them on seuen dayes: that he go in to the tabernacle of witnesse, to ministre in the holye place.
35] And se thou do vnto Aaron and his sonnes: euen so in all thynges as I haue commaunded thee: that thou fyll their handes seuen dayes 36] and offre euery daye an oxe for a synneoffrynge for to recocyle with all. .... 37] Seue dayes thou shalt reconcyle the alter and sanctifie it, that it maye be an alter most holye:  ....
 
Exodus 29:29,30,35-37 (1917 JPS)
29] And the holy garments of Aaron shall be for his sons after him, to be anointed in them, and to be consecrated in them. 30] Seven days shall the son that is priest in his stead put them on, even he who cometh into the tent of meeting to minister in the holy place. 35]  And thus shalt thou do unto Aaron, and to his sons, according to all that I have commanded thee; seven days shalt thou consecrate them. 36] And every day shalt thou offer the bullock of sin-offering, beside the other offerings of atonement; and thou shalt do the purification upon the altar when thou makest atonement for it; and thou shalt anoint it, to sanctify it. 37] Seven days thou shalt make atonement for the altar, ....

Exodus 29:29,30,35-37 (1952 RSV)
29: "The holy garments of Aaron shall be for his sons after him, to be anointed in them and ordained in them. 30: The son who is priest in his place shall wear them seven days, when he comes into the tent of meeting to minister in the holy place. 35: "Thus you shall do to Aaron and to his sons, according to all that I have commanded you; through seven days shall you ordain them, 36: and every day you shall offer a bull as a sin offering for atonement. Also you shall offer a sin offering for the altar, when you make atonement for it, and shall anoint it, to consecrate it. 37: Seven days you shall make atonement for the altar ....
 
From the instructions above on how Aaron was to be succeded as officiating Priest in the Tabernacle, we see that from each successive Priest would serve from one Sabbath to the next - a count of seven days. And being that you agree with me that Aaron and his sons served in the Tabernacle from one Sabbth to the next, you will have to agree then that this disproves the notion of lunar sabbaths where it is thought that there are uncounted days.
 
YashaNa.
Br. Paul

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Shalom Brother Paul,
 
I agree with you that Aaron and his sons took turns serving in the Tabernacle and those turns lasted from one Sabbath to the next.
 
Brother Arnold


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#111 From: PWC <pwc17@...>
Date: Fri Apr 20, 2007 3:33 am
Subject: Re: Priestly Tabernacle Service From One Sabbath To The Next
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Greetings Br. Arnold,
               You are absolutely, 100% correct about Josephus' statement of eight days. However, where you are misunderstanding, is that, Josephus is using Jewish inclusive reckoning when he counts eight days from one Sabbath to the next. Philo on the other hand makes many plain statements of Sabbaths being seperated by six day intervals.
 
Ignatius Theophorus wrote letters to the Ephesians, Magnesians, Trallians, Philadelphians, Smyrneans, and Romans, as well as a letter to Polycarp. He was Bishop of Smyrna, 3rd Bishop of Antioch, and according to tradition a disciple of John the Evangelist. In many instances in the writings of Ignatius, Philo is named as a deacon under him. Philo lived what he wrote about.
 
Philo the Alexandrian Jew On Creation (Bk 1) 30:89
(89) But after the whole world had been completed according to the perfect nature of the number six, the Father hallowed the day following, the seventh, praising it, and calling it holy. For that day is the festival, not of one city or one country, but of all the earth;