Hi is for your real interest  to know about peace us u now the war,  is contrary of peace

We must consider war ,under which head there are three  point of view

1.    whether some kind of war is lawful ?

2.    whether it is lawful for clerics to fight ?

3.    whether it is lawful for belligerents to lay ambushes ?

There, fore , now a human is in order to deceived the enemy by another’s word or deed in two ways ,first through the being told same thing false or through the breaking of a promise and this is always unlawful .No one ought to deceive the enemy in the way ,for there are certain right of war and covenants which ought to be observed even among enemy as Ambrose states. Not only is all but several reason  can I mention same time we do not declare our aim ,my be our agenda is covered by Democracy or human right 

Your:-

kiss

BONSOIR.
Je suis fiert de recevoir ton message.Je vous dis que
la paix dans le monde c'est le gouvernement du monde
seulement qui peut realiser Ca.je vous dit qu'aussi
chaque personne doit avoir sa dignite.cette dignite ne
peut existe si tu ne vis sur les droits.ces droits ne
peut pas ne peut pas s'obtenir que sur world
gouvernement.toutes les regions du monde doivent venir
dans le world gouvernement et donnees aussi leurs
paroles signees aussi.si ca existe le monde sera mieux
et sera libre.
je reve que la liberte du monde c'est le gouvrenement
du monde qui peut amener ca.
merci dana7172@....
de la part de bamba wade.MERCI

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JOHN GRAZER.
JE TRES CONTENT DE RECEVOIR TON MESSAGE .
je voudrais te dire une peitete chose concernant ce
monde.tu sais que y a beaucoup de religion dans cette
terre que des humains croient differemment.je vous
confirme aussi que la religion est le probleme mais
les humains croient a leur religion d'une croyance
fatale etaussi c'est impossible de les decroire.mais
si tout le monde croit à ce qu'il croit respecte les
humains comme lui respecte aussi les droits de son
pays et leur justice y'aura pas de probleme.









Avous JOHN FRAZERtu sais si le chretien prenait le
misulman le juif toutes les religieux comme frere
c'est un exemple y'aura pas de probleme.prenons
exemple sur un president senegalais au nom de LEOPOL S
SENGHOR IL venait à chaque des religiopns sans ex
ption.et puis vous le citopyen du monde je vous
demande il ne faut plus parler en disant ta RELIGION
parceque SI tu parle de ca on peut dire que tu n'est
citoyen du monde or nous habitte nul part.





concernant le 11 septembre cette evetement terrible
partout dans le monde et celui qui a fait ca n'importe
quel religion qu'il est l a ue ses freres et d'autres
personnes innocentes.donc on doit essayer d' eviter
ces problemes comme ca.que la justice et la paix regne
partout dans le monde .merci de la part de BAMBA WADE
.merci a toi JOHN FRAZER.A BIETOT.

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I would like to have some feedback by the group abour the  World
Service Authority Passport, their experiences with it and what could
I do if this was the only passport available to me, assuming that I
did't have a nationality.
Are there other options to people without nationalities?

I would really appreciate an answer by anyone who has had the
experience of traveling with this passport.

Thanks

Hi! I am new to this group. I am CO from the Gulf War and non-
violence advocate. The situation in the USA has deteriorated to the
point that I have been seeking a group such as this. Actually, i was
thinking of starting one myself if it didn't exist! I reviewed the
web site - but am having difficulty finding information on the how to
become an official of WorldCitizen and how decisions are made
regarding the initiatives the group takes. As I said, I am interested
in promoting nonviolence through individual conscience and the
concept of world citizenship. Please e-mail me with information on
how I can help. Please don't just say - "send  money" - I want to
take part. FWIW, I'm a practicing Emergency MD, an honors grad of
West Point who has seen the light, a former Amnesty Int. prisoner of
conscience, helped produce the current 'veteran's call to conscience'
and a couple recent articles on counterpunch and alternet. peace.
Dave Wiggins dwiggmd@...

Hi!  I'm new to this group.  I see some interesting comments and will
try to enter the discussion by offering my views.

--- In WorldCitizen@yahoogroups.com, akshay khanna
<akshay_khanna11@y...> wrote:

>     THE ONLY RELIGION IN WORLD IS HUMANITY
>               this has to be accepted by world and we
> all have to work for it.

Since i'm new here i'm not familiar with the background of your
comments.  But just in case i'm not too far off the mark, may i offer
the followiing:

I agree with the spirit of what you appear to be saying about
religion.  If a medicine designed to heal humankind and promote unity
and collective health gradually becomes rotten and even poisonous,
then it's better to get rid of it.  Why retain a supposed medicine
that only makes us sicker?  Most religions in their old age do seem
to become not only senile but actively destructive and end up doing
precisely what they were originally intended to prevent.

But if we discover that certain foods have become poisonous, it
doesn't follow that we must therefore stop eating food.  We can't
survive without it.  The real issue is over good food or bad food,
not whether to eat or not.  Of course anyone looking at the current
display of almost all modern religions will hardly see anything that
is encouraging and much that is very discouraging.  But if we take a
larger perspective that looks at much more than our current modern
history, and take that large panoramic view of history that historian
of civilization Arnold Toynbee did, then we see that it is some kind
of religious "fervor" (as he delicately put it) that is behind the
rise of just about every one of the civilizational processes that we
know.  It's not difficult at all to trace most civilizations back to
a religion in in vibrant and youthful stages, when it brings out good
qualities in humans, lifting themselves up out of a more selfish
nature.  And this collective improvement in the quality of a humans
eventually produces the effects in the civilizations that we have
seen during their rise.

We are now evidently in the last stages of decline of the current
world-encompassing civilization that was spread globally during the
age of European colonization of much of the world, so we see the
depressing results of all those characteristic traits that Toynbee
mentioned such as social and spiritual decay accompanied by material
development prior to the inevitable sudden collapse of the entire
system.

I would like to suggest that it would be a good thing to get rid of
religion of any kind in its stages of decay when they become so
destructive.  But at the same time i'd like to say that just because
the Torch of Religion has been used to set fire to the structures of
our civilization doesn't mean that it wasn't originally intended to
light the way through the darkness of a humanity that is otherwise
stumbling about in confusion, selfishness, greed, belligerence and
ultimate self-defeat.  I'm in agreement with Toynbee that humans
cannot live without religion of some kind -- otherwise we have no
guidelines and original impetus by which to make humans cooperative,
honest, fair and kind and will see a gradual collapse into humans
behaving ever more viciously and wildly, with ever more warring and
violence.  The matter is simply one of having a religion that is
fresh, new, vibrant and constructive.  Perhaps this is why religions
appear to be periodically renewed, and when the fresh new ones
arrive, the old ones get rotten and harmful.

This in no way summarizes my complete view on the matter but is an
intro to this discussion.

Thanks!

david

In some discussions I've been  advocating that anti-war rallies ought
to be peoples manifestations against both militaristic sides...
actually the rallies should go both to the american AND the iraqi
embassies .... to be for freedom and democracy, is not just opposing
the elite's plans in our part of the world, there's a need for
expanding the protests into an action from civil society to take the
responsibility for building true peace, freedom and democracy .. in
only questioning our own powerelites statements, we may promote peace
for the iraqi people in the sense, absence of war... but miss
solidarity in working for aims like true peoples selfdetermination -
not as people = nation, nation = government.

For a non-violent people to people solidarity fighting ALL political,
military and financial powerelites that try to involve us in their
conflicts of interest, quest for honour and glory, dominance and
control .... Against both Bush and Saddam..
  As a father I have more interest in raising my kid(s) in a world of
peace in common with an iraqi father, than we have to stand behind our
political leaders waving their oblong things.

       Sören Groth

http://www.freewebs.com/tcfactory/

Hello again!  Some more ideas come to mind.

I used to teach at a university in China and am also familiar with
some of the problems that exist in the former Soviet Union.  I have
no problem with the communistic program to bring justice so that
large groups are no longer oppressed by certain wealthy and powerful
minorities.  But we humans have a capacity to abandon our original
aims and goals.  The new communist party in China is the old
aristocracy, and this defeats the whole purpose of what that 1917
revolution was all about.  It's the old monster in new clothes.  And
the very same thing happens in religion too.  They end up betraying
their original values.  It doesn't take a genius to see that.

What really frightened me in China was the dull, grey, lifeless, dead
spirit that was infused into the society through this religious
irreligion.  Materialist ideologies like communism and capitalism can
become opiates of the people too!  And the gradual disappearance of
the beautiful qualities of genuine kindness, love, fairness, justice,
honesty, truthfulness, reciprocity, unselfishness, service, and so on
is scary.  You really see that in nations that worked so hard to
remove religion.  Look at all the corruption that existed in the old
USSR's world.  And it still exists.  When you go to a country where
there's a fairly strong religious sense in the culture, even if its
priesthood is abysmally corrupt and rotten, there's a nice spirit in
the air, and there's a general feeling of aliveness, vibrance and
natural affection among the people.

I see the day when, after we have nearly destroyed our world and left
only a part of the world's population that the world's leaders will
discuss what the cause of all the trouble was.  And they will decide
that it is prejudice between humans, especially religious prejudice
(which is not religion at all but a horrible perversion of it).  So
they will take steps to remove it from our world.  And then, when
we've seen the horrid consequences of that - something i've already
seen and lived in - they will finally realize that we humans cannot
live without religion and will possibly investigate them all and find
one that is most suitable to the times.

In support of this, i'd like to quote from Richard Dawkins and
Bertrand Russell, to give you an idea of where an anti-religious
materialist stance leads:

· "Nature is not cruel, only pitilessly indifferent.  This
lesson is one of the hardest for humans to learn.  We cannot accept
that things might be neither good nor evil, neither cruel nor kind,
but simply callous: indifferent to all suffering, lacking all
purpose.... In a universe of electrons and selfish genes, blind
physical forces and genetic replications, some people are going to
get lucky, and you won't find any rhyme or reason in it, nor any
justice.  The universe that we observe has precisely the properties
we should expect if there is, at the bottom, no design, no purpose,
no evil and no good, nothing but pitiless indifference."  (River Out
of Eden)

Or how about this gem from Bertrand Russell?

· " ... the world which science presents for our belief is even
more purposeless, more void of meaning, [than a world in which God is
malevolent].  Amid such a world, if anywhere, our ideals henceforward
must find a home.  That man is the product of causes which had no
prevision of the end they were achieving; that his origin, his
growth, his hopes and fears, his loves and his beliefs, are but the
outcome of accidental collocations of atoms; that no fire, no
heroism, no intensity of thought and feeling, can preserve an
individual life beyond the grave; that all the labours of the ages,
all the devotion, all the inspiration, all the noonday brightness of
human genius, are destined to extinction in the vast death of the
solar system, and the whole temple of Man's achievement must
inevitably be buried beneath the debris of a universe in ruins—all
these things, if not quite beyond dispute, are yet so nearly certain
that no philosophy which rejects them can hope to stand.  Only within
the scaffolding of these truths, only on the firm foundation of
unyielding despair, can the soul's habitation henceforth be safely
built."  (Why I am not a Christian)

Well, this is a recipe for despair and a great deal of trouble in
society.  If humans feel that there is no reason for living, that
it's all for nothing, then why be honest?  Why be fair and just?  Why
be kind?  In fact the history of civilization shows us graphically
the consequences of living in this condition.  That's when
civilizations decline and finally collapse.

We need religion in its pure original forms -- the part in which all
the world's major religion are in solid agreement -- and we need to
cut off the diseased parts that run in direct opposition to these
foundations of excellent human behavior that are essentially the
building blocks of a stable social order.

Our modern politicians are see the structure of civilized society in
its various modern forms.  They see the cracks appearing in the walls
of this structure.  So, unless they are utterly corrupt, they try to
patch them up.  But it's for nothing.  Soon new cracks appear.  The
social structure continues to show ever more weakness.  The reason
for this is because these cracks are only symptoms of a deeper-lying
problem.  And that problem is in the foundations of human psychology,
in the foundations of how this psychology works socially when we
operate in groups.  But these foundations are hidden from us.  So
politicians and others keep dealing with the secondary symptoms of a
world falling apart at the seams and never get down to the root
causes.  They even deny the reality of these root causes.

But i believe that the roots of human behavior run even deeper than
the psychology we currently barely grasp, and that these run down
into deeply subconscious areas of ourselves that we can only call our
spiritual foundations.  When we are at war with ourselves deep down,
we war outwardly too.  This is where the repair, the healing must
first take place.  And it is precisely this deep, hidden area in us
that religion, when it is fresh, vibrant, young and full of immense
power, can can work on, changing dishonest, corrupt beings into good
people filled with ideals of service, kindness, justice, fairness and
integrity.  I'm quite convinced that these attributes appear in
humans only through channels that trace back ultimately to some
religious outpouring during the earliest days of that religion.

That we humans have so often been unable to rise up to the high
standards of the virtues promoted by all the major religions is not
the fault of these religions or their Founders but rather to be
ascribed to our weakness.  The patient who refuses to follow the
prescription of a wise doctor and gets sick cannot blame the doctor
for his problems.

The structure of society has three levels, hidden spiritual
foundations, intellectual social structural walls, and the roof of
final material and technological development.  Everything rests on
those foundations.

Viewed from another perspective, the stability and solidity of a
social structure depends on three things:  1) the qualities of
materials used, 2) the binding materials used to put these together,
and 3) a good sensible design for the whole structure.  We humans
might be compared to the building blocks of the structure of
civilization.  If we are individually crumbling, like mud bricks, and
cannot have integrity and strength as individual components of
society, then the most perfect structural design for a society must
fail.  The first storm of tests will topple a beautifully-designed
structure that is built of crumbling building blocks.  Or, in the
words of another, "you cannot make a good omelette out of bad eggs".
Secondly, unless there is some means of binding humans together into
a cooperative system of social organization, we will be at odds with
each other and fight over everything.  Watch a group of children
without parental control.  Or watch our world leaders without the
control of the "parent" of a global governing agency!

Religion in its first stages has traditionally provided the first two
principles here.  It has inculcated good qualities and virtues into
individuals, making them able to function as parts in a cooperative
enterprise of civilization.  And it has provided a means of bonding
hearts together so that there is some measure of love, kindness and
reciprocity between them.  Of course these powers die out during the
old age of religions, meaning that it has to be renewed.  So the old
religions become instruments of harm to the world while the new
spirit of upbuilding that works on the spiritual foundations of the
structure of civilization appears in a new religion.  Again, this is
Toynbee's idea.  I will refrain right now from mentioning the
particular religion that Toynbee suggested would be the foundation of
a world civilization destined to rise on the ruins of the current
corrupt and decaying one lest it appear that i'm proselytizing or
preaching.

Right now, the point is that the presence of bad government doesn't
mean that we should abandon all government and live in anarchy.  That
won't work.  We need a means of ordering human social affairs at
every level (especially global right now!)  And the same principle
applies to religion.  Just because we immature humans have betrayed
the original aims and ideals of religion and perverted them into
instruments of harm to our world doesn't mean that the solution is to
abandon all religion.  It's a matter of good government or bad
government, not government or no government.  It's a matter of good
religion or bad religion, not religion or no religion.  We cannot
survive for long without both.

Thank you for bearing with this rather long statement,

your fellow world citizen,

David Garcia

DEMOCRATIE PARTOUT.
Je suis tres fiert de recevoir votre message.je vous
dit quelquechose ,nous les cityons du monde on fait de
tel sorte que la democratie regne partout dans le
monde .on ne doit pas dire que tel ou tel pays a la
democratie on doit faire de tel sorte que la
democratie regne partout dans le monde .ce que vous
dites que L EST VIT DANS LA DEMOCRATIE ;ET L OUEST ET
LE NORD ET LE SUD eux aussi ils doivent vivre dans la
democratie.dans un pays on ne doit pas faire la
difference de ceux vivent dans la democratie et ceux
qui ne vivent pas dans la democratie,on doit faire de
tel sorte que tout le pays vit dans la democratie.
ce qui peut amener ca est que tout le monde soit
membre du world citizen si ça existe aura plus de
difference dans les regions du monde.
        jaouadcristin23@...
               de la part de bamba wade.

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I am Michael Zargarov d'Buchert, Szekely Zigani-Vajda.
   I live in Houston, Texas but have considered and called myself a
"World Citizen" since 1974. I am 40 years young. I have lived in 8
countries other than my own (US) and have travelled to and through 61
others.
   I feel, at this critical juncture when all the forces of capital
and greed are aiming my country to war-unending, to make broader
connection with like-minded individuals.
   I am currently active in the Anti-Bush-War-on-Iraq movement.
   I am gravitating towards a Green-Socialist political mindset.
   I am fleeing religion...drawing closer to a Humanist aspect.

   I hope to contact others...and to help in unifying what may be left
of a thinking and aspiring world community.

(Note: this letter is only for people who oppose the War on Iraq.)

Re: URGENT,  Please Write To Colin Powell Today.

Dear Caring friends,

   The report said the US military is going to drop 3,000 guided
missiles at the begining of the war to kill Iraqis to "stun" enemy.

   Please let's write an urgent letter to Secretary of State
Colin Powell to ask him promote the Peace and Stop the War.
Enclosed a  SAMPLE LETTER  and important CONTACT
information.  Please, you are urged to write your own letter.
Thanks so much for your efforts for the world peace.

Also, we forward the following activity in US to you :
please attend the March 15, 2003 National ANTI-WAR
PROTEST if you can  to give Peace a chance.
The information is as follows :

              March 15, 2003 (Saturday)
   EMERGENCY CONVERGENCE ON THE WHITE HOUSE
to STOP THE WAR ON IRAQ  with parallel actions in
       SAN FRANCISCO & LOS ANGELES .
             http://www.internationalanswer.org/
  http://www.internationalanswer.org/campaigns/m15/index.html

  Buses, vans and car caravans are traveling from over 100
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To be a volunteer for anti-war movement or donation info. , click :
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  Thanks so much for your urgent help for the world peace .
==========================================

(Note:  You are welcome to write your own letters and express
your own opinions.  thanks .  )

SAMPLE LETTER : (Please place your Name, City, State and
  Country at the BEGINNING and END of your letter:  :
------------------------------------------------------


FROM:  Your Name,
               Your City, Your State,
               Your Zip Code,
               Your Country,

(**Please hand this important letter to Secretary of State Powell
       in person.   Thank you.)

Subject:  Please Stop the Bloody War on Iraq.   Thanks.

Dear Secretary of State Colin Powell,

   We thought you were a great American soldier who
would help to promote the peace and stop the cruel war .

However, lately we are shocked to find that you are relentlessly
promoting the war to please the Washington war hawks .

We wonder are those war hawks using your "popularity"
to push for their bloody agenda ??
The war on Iraq is unfair, unjust and very cruel .

  We urge you please use your wisdom to advise President
Bush to promote the Peace and Stop the War now.
Thank you for your efforts for world peace and humanity.

Sincerely,

Your Name,
Your City, State,
Your Zipcode
Your Country.
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PLEASE BE ABSOLUTELY POLITE , PLEASE !!!

Address:

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Secretary of State Colin Powell,
U.S. Department of State
Washington, D.C. 20520    U.S.A.

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Thanks so much for your urgent help for the world peace.

oui c'est ca car la plupart des pays utiliseent ce therme de democratie pour couvrir des defauts qui se trouvent au sein de ces pays et qui peux pas affronter en realité 

 la democratie c'est un voile   de la realité  alors  nous on sais ca  mais les autres est ce qu'ils savent ca est ce qu'ils sont au courant .

 je pense que oui  ,mais ils ne peuvent pas s'exprimer  car ils ont peur des grands lions  alors  c'est ca ce qu'on appelle la democratie   pour vous. avoir peur de parler correctement,  pour moi c'est rien du tout des salades du cacao

qui se preparent tres bien avant de la jeter  au citoyens du monde pour la consommer stupidement

Salut Bamaba,
tres ravi de te lire et constater que tu es interesse
par ce qui se passe dans le monde
en effet mon point de vue quant à l'accusation porte
contre la religion est que à voir ce qu'on fait les
musulmans,ce qu'ils font et ce qu'ils pourraient faire
encore on a de bonne raison de penser que la religion
en est la cause
peut_etre est-tu musulman mais si tu comprenais et
voiyaient un peu la reaction de certains quand ils
entendent "americain" tu verrais que c'est comme ci on
les inculquais cela on les enseignait dans leur lieu
de rassemblem
excuse-moi pour ce point vue s'il est flou c'est que
je compte m'exprimer plus clairem tres prochainem
   porte toi bien
      à bientot
         raoul,

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yes it is  because the majority of the countries this theme of democratie to
cover defects which are within these countries and which cannot face in reality
the democratie it is a veil of the reality then us one know that but the others
is what they know that is what they are well-informed. I think that yes, but
they cannot be expressed because they are afraid of the large lions then it is
that what is called the democratie to be afraid to you to speak correctly, for
me it is nothing the whole of salads of the cocoa who preparent themselves very
well before throwing it to the citizens of the world to consume it stupidly


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Hi
I agree. We must have a vision of that fundamental physical unity that is
the human race (and even the entire world both human and non-human).  The
power elites know about the importance of the principle of "divide and
conquer".  By keeping the ordinary people divided and at odds, they can
work their own will without any restrictions.  In a world republic, built
upon democratic principles, the ordinary people would have a chance to curb
the excesses of these groups, as well as put an end to destructive
conflicts that do not serve their interests, but merely burn up resources
that are desperately needed elsewhere.  The often misunderstood fact about
a united world republic is that it would not merely make war illegal, but
that it would reduce (if not eliminate) the underlying causes of war, and
violence in general, by providing a framework for the free competition of
ideas in a nonviolent way.

We need a free, united world republic in which every human being is a
citizen with fundamental human rights.

Peace and Unity,
Gary

At 12:52 AM 2/14/2003 +0000, S. Groth <sgroth@...> wrote:
>In some discussions I've been  advocating that anti-war rallies ought
>to be peoples manifestations against both militaristic sides...
>actually the rallies should go both to the american AND the iraqi
>embassies .... to be for freedom and democracy, is not just opposing
>the elite's plans in our part of the world, there's a need for
>expanding the protests into an action from civil society to take the
>responsibility for building true peace, freedom and democracy .. in
>only questioning our own powerelites statements, we may promote peace
>for the iraqi people in the sense, absence of war... but miss
>solidarity in working for aims like true peoples selfdetermination -
>not as people = nation, nation = government.
>
>For a non-violent people to people solidarity fighting ALL political,
>military and financial powerelites that try to involve us in their
>conflicts of interest, quest for honour and glory, dominance and
>control .... Against both Bush and Saddam..
>  As a father I have more interest in raising my kid(s) in a world of
>peace in common with an iraqi father, than we have to stand behind our
>political leaders waving their oblong things.
>
>       Sören Groth
>
>http://www.freewebs.com/tcfactory/
>
>
>
>"I have believed that the only way peace can be achieved is through world
>government" (Jawaharal Nehru)
>
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Good day all,
   I am Dr. Solomon Judah El.
I currently am not a world citizen in the REGISTERED
sence.

I just can not afford to do so at this time (Become A
registered World Citizen), but I am planing to do so
in the future when my money allows me too.

In any case I did not write today to go over my money
problemes with the world but to respond to another
problem that I have been getting in my email from
WorldCitizen@yahoogroups.com.

There are people out there blaiming things on
religion. They are putting out that religion is the
problem with the world and its governments today. I am
so sick of people pointing the finger to every littele
thing that they can focus there eye-site on as the
root of there problems.

My friends religion was made up by man and then
instituted by man..

Government was made up by man also.. As well as law,
code, statue, and a host of other things we may or may
not like in this world today..
So you see it is not the objects that man creates that
are the problem, it is the MAN...

It is time that we take a look at the real problem
that being ourselves. Then will will be able to
resolve our worldly problems...

This is easy said than done for most men are slaves to
there ego. Being an inividual has rendered the masses
BLIND and FOOLISH. It is very hard to tell a fool to
check himself...

So NO RELIGION is not THE PROBLEM....IT IS MAN...

DR EL

 DEAR MR Michael Zargarov d'Buchert

THANKS FOR UR EMAIL.DEAR I M ALSO PLANNING TO BECOME A WORLD CITIZEN LIKE U.I M AGREE WITH U ON UR POINTES.WHERE R U LIVING IN USA ??.

THANKS DN REGARD

SHAKEEL AHMAD MALIK

OLBIA SS ITALY

 "Mzargarov <mzargarov@...>" <mzargarov@...> wrote:

I am Michael Zargarov d'Buchert, Szekely Zigani-Vajda.
  I live in Houston, Texas but have considered and called myself a
"World Citizen" since 1974. I am 40 years young. I have lived in 8
countries other than my own (US) and have travelled to and through 61
others.
  I feel, at this critical juncture when all the forces of capital
and greed are aiming my country to war-unending, to make broader
connection with like-minded individuals.
  I am currently active in the Anti-Bush-War-on-Iraq movement.
  I am gravitating towards a Green-Socialist political mindset.
  I am fleeing religion...drawing closer to a Humanist aspect.

  I hope to contact others...and to help in unifying what may be left
of a thinking and aspiring world community.




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DEAR BROTHER IS ISLAM ahmed khochen

SALAM

I M SORRY FOR UR CURRANT POSITION.I M SHAKEEL AHMAD FROM PAKISTAN AND NOW A DAYS IN ITALY AND REALLY IN BAD DAYS EVEN MORE THEN U.AT LEAT U HAVE 1 CAR WASH BUT I DONT HAVE EVEN MONEY FOR MY DAILY FOOD BE CUZ I M WAITING FOR  MY ITALIAN STAY PERMIT UNTIL MY PERMIT I CAN NOT GET ANY JOB DUA FOR ME.DO U HAVE SOME FAMILY OR ALONE ?'.I HAVE LOT OF RESPONSIBILITIES AT HOME EVEN I M SINGLE 28 YEARS OLD.ANY WAY U DONT WORRY JUST TRY HARD AND HARD IN UR COUNTRY REALLY NO GOOD TO LEAVE THAT UR GR8 COUNTRY BE CUZ NOW CONDATION ISNOT LIKE PAST IN EUROPE FOR ALL.

WITH LOVE

SHAKEEL AHMAD MALIK

 "khiram33 <khiram33@...>" <khiram33@...> wrote:

dears brothers,
first I am sorry of any importunity in sending this message to you
but I will send it in the name of the humanity.
and I hope that my message not gona be abandoned from your side...
my name is ahmed khochen 33.y.o. lebanese  resident in lebanon
currently
from -9-1997  and I want to tell you a short story about me
in 1988 I ve leaveing the secondary school because a financial
problems of my father hho wast no afford to pay out
the school installment to me or my brothers even the food expenses
was a problem then...
from my side and from my sensation of responsiblity Ive finding
a job just to help my brothers to stay in the school .and it is done.
till the expenses becoming a big onus on me I went to
africa(senegal) in 1999 to work to. this time it was a good job
and I,ve opening my own shop in senegal after 2 year
and after a few years of sending the biger sum of my stipend
my brothers has been graduated from there universitys
and thank god they are in a good positions now.
the first one is my biger brother he is a bank director here in
lebanon.
the second one (my big brother to) engineer(civil) in nigera
and my little brother is a signor cook .
I am so proud of them...
about me...
I am broken.I lost all my money once in helping my family and
poors peoples in senegal
twice by a commercial attack by the side of my own uncle
(big brother of my father)
I return from africa to lebanon in -9/1997
return to the point of zero owner of a little car wash with out
any career...
no body help...
I am not asking money from any one .I am not asking any
substantial thing from any one
all what I want to say is since Iam coming to lebanon I feel that
I lost all my humans rights and I canot travel to any where
to restart my career and life no country want to give me
a visa spit of I,ve presenting all documents they need
so as france I havent 2 visa to france first 6 months second 1 year
the one year was in -9/1997 .
with thes they refuse to give me a visa in -2002 with out any
reason so Iam pinfolded in side a country of 10000 kilometer...
I am a human and and I,ve all the right to be free free free
so please help me to restert my life
and please send me a message soon
I am waiting your respondon
khiram33@... or akhochen@...
thank you so much
best regards
                        ahmed khochen






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Congratulations Dave, on your enlightenment. I have no personal
experience with any of the world citizen travel documents, but I do
have the paperback book written by the founder, Gerry Davis (spelling?)
and recommend it as well written and entertaining.

I also recommend reading some free online articles to further your
personal education.

Clear Your Mind Reports:
and: <http://www.buildfreedom.com/dir_clear.htm>
Discourse on Voluntary Servitude (next):
<http://www.buildfreedom.com/tl/tl06.shtml>
<http://www.buildfreedom.com/tl/tl07b.shtml> (Nature of Government)
Bastiat, "The Government" <http://www.mind-trek.com/treatise/fb-g.htm>
Lysander Spooner writing at this Mind Trek site also.

Good Luck to you.

I realise that speaking up against organized religion may be seen by some as
personal attacks on themselves. I can't help if readers identify strongly
with the worldviews included in religious sects and get offended, though I
still insist that I write only in the spirit of internet-beased discussions-
"attack ideas, not people" and if anything, only to inspire thoughtful
discussion on this worthy list.
(Again, I ask the list owners if there's any way to avoid the delay in
posting to the list. Is the delay due to the need for moderation, and if so,
is it really necessary?)


I for one refuse to accept that religion is necessary as the only way to
give humans a hopeful outlook for the future, or that it's necessary for
morality & ethics either among societies or for individuals.
I humbly say that I try to be a good person. I don't do this in the least
because old texts or human institutions which grew up out of them tell me
to.
I try to be good to others not because I fear harsh judgement by a deity.
I'm nice to people because all there is that matters is people! If you shout
obscenities at the person who cut you off in traffic, you've done a hostile
act as your response to a unique moment in history, to another thinking
feeling being. Is that what you want to leave behind?

Quite contrary to the view that a godless universe is pointless and
meaningless and there's no reason to be nice to each other, it's all the
more important to be good.
The most precious thing in space/time is human experience. I submit that a
poor life means a poor experience in space/time. It's not enough to say that
the departed are with the maker now, so it doesn't matter as much if they
suffered needlessly in life. They are gone, and the only testament to them
is the memory they left with the living. A person who leaves nothing because
they died young or uneducated so they couldn't leave written wisdom behind
is lost to history. All the people in our history who have died young after
a brutish life in doubt, pain and fear, are the worst kind of wasted effort
concievable, and a loud and obvious call for change. If they leave nothing
but a memory of a miserable brief existance, in the living after they are
gone, we all are poorer.
A nasty person isn't being punished or educated in the errors of their ways
in the afterlife. All they leave and the only backlash of their evil is the
memory of the pain they inflicted while they walked the Earth.
I choose to not leave such memories in the people I've touched.
I try to be good to people because they matter, not to convince the big guy
upstairs to not torture me for all eternity. (a brazen hipocrisy as bad as
Pascal's wager -in which belief in god is proclaimed because it's the safer
course since we don't know whether or not he exists to throw us in hell if
we don't believe in him.
Doing good deeds or believing in a religion because it's the safe way to
avoid an eternity of torment in gods own private torture chamber isn't much
of a basis for a good life.)

Claiming belief because of fear of death is not much better. "no intensity
of thought and feeling can preserve an individual life beyond the grave"
just means that we had better do the best we can while we're here. No second
coming or celestial kingdom on its way to save us from ourselves. We are the
ones who have to do something to make this a better universe for minds and
memories -which are the most important thing.

I'll dig through the writings of Dawkins and Russell to see where they were
going with those ideas you quoted about the meaninglessness of existence
without a god. I'll bet that they salvaged a bright prospect for a human
existence -not one where we are the playthings and slaves of a deity.
If you don't read those passages with the preconception that a godless
universe is hostile and meaningless, then a humanist stance comes out: We
must be good to each other and do our best to make the world a better place,
because we are all we've got.

>We need religion in its pure original forms -- the part in which all
>the world's major religion are in solid agreement -- and we need to
>cut off the diseased parts that run in direct opposition to these
>foundations of excellent human behavior that are essentially the
>building blocks of a stable social order.

Sounds nice, but it's definitely a recipe for a multi-directional Jihad. One
scary thing about religion is that they all claim to have the exclusive
right to possession of Truth, and that they are all soverign and possessed
of the ability to force their views over all others -indeed, they must try
to get all others to accept their views, since it is the One True Word Of
God, and it must be spread and all other belief systems are wrong -not just
incorrect, but actively evil. There is no single "part in which all the
world's major religions are in solid agreement" except that they eacg are
right and everybody else is wrong (an indication or symptom of insanity, by
the way).
You cannot possibly get all major old religions to alter their views and
accept that any new view is in fact correct -the Protestants tried that, and
centuries of war resulted (and are ongoing today).

I also take exception to categorizing Red China or the Soviet union or
Hitler's Nazis as examples of a non-theist society.
They don't have a deist religion, true, but they have another kind of
delusional worldview almost as scary. They forsake free inquiry -much like
religions do- but they replaced it with leader worship and belief in a
social structure which was fundamentally flawed and as doomed to collapse as
a tower built on sand. Their forced belief in these delusional social
structures bore many resemblances to religion: faith is belief in something
with no evidence, and adhering to views propounded by leaders in power-bloc
structures for the sole benefit of perpetuating that power structure and
that leadership clique.
Sounds more like a religion than a rational and free inquiry, democratic,
modern societal view.


From David Garcia
>What really frightened me in China was the dull, grey, lifeless, dead
>spirit that was infused into the society through this religious
>irreligion.  Materialist ideologies like communism and capitalism can
>become opiates of the people too!  And the gradual disappearance of
>the beautiful qualities of genuine kindness, love, fairness, justice,
>honesty, truthfulness, reciprocity, unselfishness, service, and so on
>is scary.  You really see that in nations that worked so hard to
>remove religion.  Look at all the corruption that existed in the old
>USSR's world.  And it still exists.  When you go to a country where
>there's a fairly strong religious sense in the culture, even if its
>priesthood is abysmally corrupt and rotten, there's a nice spirit in
>the air, and there's a general feeling of aliveness, vibrance and
>natural affection among the people.
>
>I see the day when, after we have nearly destroyed our world and left
>only a part of the world's population that the world's leaders will
>discuss what the cause of all the trouble was.  And they will decide
>that it is prejudice between humans, especially religious prejudice
>(which is not religion at all but a horrible perversion of it).  So
>they will take steps to remove it from our world.  And then, when
>we've seen the horrid consequences of that - something i've already
>seen and lived in - they will finally realize that we humans cannot
>live without religion and will possibly investigate them all and find
>one that is most suitable to the times.
>
>In support of this, i'd like to quote from Richard Dawkins and
>Bertrand Russell, to give you an idea of where an anti-religious
>materialist stance leads:
>
>· "Nature is not cruel, only pitilessly indifferent.  This
>lesson is one of the hardest for humans to learn.  We cannot accept
>that things might be neither good nor evil, neither cruel nor kind,
>but simply callous: indifferent to all suffering, lacking all
>purpose.... In a universe of electrons and selfish genes, blind
>physical forces and genetic replications, some people are going to
>get lucky, and you won't find any rhyme or reason in it, nor any
>justice.  The universe that we observe has precisely the properties
>we should expect if there is, at the bottom, no design, no purpose,
>no evil and no good, nothing but pitiless indifference."  (River Out
>of Eden)
>
>Or how about this gem from Bertrand Russell?
>
>· " ... the world which science presents for our belief is even
>more purposeless, more void of meaning, [than a world in which God is
>malevolent].  Amid such a world, if anywhere, our ideals henceforward
>must find a home.  That man is the product of causes which had no
>prevision of the end they were achieving; that his origin, his
>growth, his hopes and fears, his loves and his beliefs, are but the
>outcome of accidental collocations of atoms; that no fire, no
>heroism, no intensity of thought and feeling, can preserve an
>individual life beyond the grave; that all the labours of the ages,
>all the devotion, all the inspiration, all the noonday brightness of
>human genius, are destined to extinction in the vast death of the
>solar system, and the whole temple of Man's achievement must
>inevitably be buried beneath the debris of a universe in ruins—all
>these things, if not quite beyond dispute, are yet so nearly certain
>that no philosophy which rejects them can hope to stand.  Only within
>the scaffolding of these truths, only on the firm foundation of
>unyielding despair, can the soul's habitation henceforth be safely
>built."  (Why I am not a Christian)
>
>Well, this is a recipe for despair and a great deal of trouble in
>society.  If humans feel that there is no reason for living, that
>it's all for nothing, then why be honest?  Why be fair and just?  Why
>be kind?  In fact the history of civilization shows us graphically
>the consequences of living in this condition.  That's when
>civilizations decline and finally collapse.

In another message David wrote
>... just because the Torch of Religion has been used to set
>fire to the structures of our civilization doesn't mean that it wasn't
>originally intended to light the way through the
>darkness of a humanity that is otherwise stumbling about in
>confusion, selfishness, greed, belligerence and ultimate self-defeat.
>I'm in agreement with Toynbee that humans cannot live without
>religion of some kind -- otherwise we have no guidelines and
>original impetus by which to make humans cooperative, honest,
>fair and kind and will see a gradual collapse into humans
>behaving ever more viciously and wildly, with ever more warring
>and violence.

>But i believe that the roots of human behavior run even deeper than
>the psychology we currently barely grasp, and that these run down
>into deeply subconscious areas of ourselves that we can only call our
>spiritual foundations.  When we are at war with ourselves deep down,
>we war outwardly too.  This is where the repair, the healing must
>first take place.  And it is precisely this deep, hidden area in us
>that religion, when it is fresh, vibrant, young and full of immense
>power, can can work on, changing dishonest, corrupt beings into good
>people filled with ideals of service, kindness, justice, fairness and
>integrity.  I'm quite convinced that these attributes appear in
>humans only through channels that trace back ultimately to some
>religious outpouring during the earliest days of that religion.
>
>That we humans have so often been unable to rise up to the high
>standards of the virtues promoted by all the major religions is not
>the fault of these religions or their Founders but rather to be
>ascribed to our weakness.  The patient who refuses to follow the
>prescription of a wise doctor and gets sick cannot blame the doctor
>for his problems.

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Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2003 1:46 AM

Subject: [WorldCitizen] Digest Number 200

Message: 5
   Date: Fri, 7 Mar 2003 11:50:52 -0800 (PST)
   From: lamarr rollins-el <lamarrrollinsel@...>
Subject: Re: Re: Religion is the Problem/response

Good day all,
  I am Dr. Solomon Judah El.

There are people out there blaiming things on
religion. They are putting out that religion is the
problem with the world and its governments today. I am
so sick of people pointing the finger to every littele
thing that they can focus there eye-site on as the
root of there problems.

My friends religion was made up by man and then
instituted by man..

Government was made up by man also.. As well as law,
code, statue, and a host of other things we may or may
not like in this world today..
So you see it is not the objects that man creates that
are the problem, it is the MAN...

It is time that we take a look at the real problem
that being ourselves. Then will will be able to
resolve our worldly problems...

--Precisely. There is no God, no Satan, no Heaven, no Hell and no Angels. It's all superstition and the quicker it will diappeare the better. Then man (where are the women in your article?) can solve their own problems, but as long as everything is related (and excused) by referring to religious fantasies nothing can be solved.

This is easy said than done for most men

 

--and what about the women?

 

are slaves to there ego. Being an inividual has rendered the masses
BLIND and FOOLISH.

 

--They are helped along the blind way by the preists and mullahs (or whatever).

 

It is very hard to tell a fool to check himself...

--As the priests and the mullahs tell them that they are right anyway. Why then take a look?

So NO RELIGION is not THE PROBLEM....IT IS MAN...

As there is no God, no Satan, no Heaven, no Hell and no Angels there is only man and woman, all the living animals and the rest of the nature it's up to man and woman to solve those problems, but as long as they think that it's all in the hand of a God and what ever happens is God's will nothing will get solved, and I have no big hope it ever will. Religions have existed as far back as we know and decided the way people live. We will never, all of us, be wise enough to get rid of the religious fence.

 

You are right DR EL. Man (and woman) and their stupidity to let their lives be led by religions and their priests and mullahs (or whatever) is the problem, but that's nothing new.

 

Claes Persson

SWEDEN

0( :8-)

 

                                        Bonne réception à ta lettre et je t'en remercie profondement. Sache désormais que nous avons les mêmes points de vu.

Les gens ne savent pas que nous sommes dans un même et unique VILLAGE malgré la race le pays ou même le continent.

             La GUERRE***************la GUERRE*******et la GUERRE ?????????????

 Nous en parlerons plus tard . Je t'aime bien......

                                      BONOU Nazaire

 raoul tele <raoultele2001@...> wrote:

Salut Bamaba,
tres ravi de te lire et constater que tu es interesse
par ce qui se passe dans le monde
en effet mon point de vue quant à l'accusation porte
contre la religion est que à voir ce qu'on fait les
musulmans,ce qu'ils font et ce qu'ils pourraient faire
encore on a de bonne raison de penser que la religion
en est la cause
peut_etre est-tu musulman mais si tu comprenais et
voiyaient un peu la reaction de certains quand ils
entendent "americain" tu verrais que c'est comme ci on
les inculquais cela on les enseignait dans leur lieu
de rassemblem
excuse-moi pour ce point vue s'il est flou c'est que
je compte m'exprimer plus clairem tres prochainem
  porte toi bien
     à bientot
        raoul,  

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Hi,

I'm new to the list (am an active member of the Greens and favour the
World Federalist Movement).

As I noticed that the debates in this list are in English, I'll give
some more information on the neutral language Esperanto, which has
around 2 million speakers.

Last summer, the World Federalist Movement passed a resolution in
favour of Esperanto. In December the Asian Social Forum also passed a
resolution in its favour.

http://www.wfm.org/congress/resolutions.doc

If any of you are interested in learning, I can find e-mail teachers
and courses (as well as translators).

All the best

Dafydd ap Fergus


"An Update on Esperanto"

In a world increasingly aware of minority rights and linguistic and
cultural diversity, the international language Esperanto is gaining
renewed attention from policy-makers. Non-governmental organizations
and coalitions are pressing to have the international language
question placed on the agendas of the United Nations and the European
Union. In July 1996, the Nitobe Symposium of International
Organizations brought together a group of independent experts in
Prague, Czech Republic, which examined the present state of Esperanto
and called for its inclusion in current debates on language rights
and language policy: the Prague Manifesto, a modern restatement of
the values and goals underlying the Esperanto movement, emphasizes
linguistic democracy and the preservation of linguistic diversity (
http://lingvo.org/xx/2/3 ). Esperanto speakers in the news recently
include 1994 Nobel laureate in economics Reinhard Selten, 1996 World
Chess Champion Zsuzsa Polgar, and Tivadar Soros, father of financier
George Soros ( http://esperanto.org/Ondo/H-100.htm ). Indigenous
Dialogues, a programme to strengthen dialogue among indigenous
peoples across the world, bypasses former colonial languages by using
Esperanto as a means of communication ( http://www.idnetwork.nl ).
Here are some additional facts about the present state of Esperanto.

Purpose and origins. The basis of what became the international
language Esperanto was published in Warsaw in 1887 by Dr. Lejzer
Ludwik Zamenhof ( http://akademio-de-esperanto.org/fundamento ). The
idea of a planned international language, intended not to replace
ethnic languages but to serve as an additional, second language for
all, was not new, but Zamenhof saw that such a language must develop
through collective use, so he limited his initial proposal to a
minimalist grammar and small vocabulary. Esperanto is now a full-
fledged language with a worldwide speech community and full
linguistic resources. Many of Zamenhof's ideas anticipated those of
the founder of modern linguistics, the structuralist Ferdinand de
Saussure, whose brother Rene spoke Esperanto. (See also: 'Frequently
Asked Questions about Esperanto' : http://esperanto.net/veb/faq.html )

Characteristics. Esperanto is both spoken and written. Its lexicon
derives primarily from Western European languages, while its syntax
and morphology show strong Slavic influences. Esperanto morphemes are
invariant and almost indefinitely recombinable into different words,
so the language also has much in common with isolating languages like
Chinese, while its internal word structure has affinity with
agglutinative languages like Turkish, Swahili and Japanese (
http://bertilow.com/pmeg/index.php ).

Development. At first, the language consisted of about 1000 roots,
from which 10,000 or 12,000 words could be formed. Today, Esperanto
dictionaries often contain 15,000 or 20,000 roots, from which
hundreds of thousands of words can be formed ( http://akademio-de-
esperanto.org/akademia_vortaro ). The language continues to evolve:
an Esperanto Academy monitors current trends ( http://akademio-de-
esperanto.org ). Over time, the language has been used for virtually
every conceivable purpose, some of them controversial or problematic:
the language was forbidden, and its users persecuted, by both Stalin,
as the language of "cosmopolitans," and Hitler, as the language of
Jews (Zamenhof, creator of the language, was Jewish). Through use of
the language in the home, there are now as many as a thousand native
speakers of Esperanto (See also: 'Gramatiko de Esperanto' de Miroslav
Malovec : http://mujweb.atlas.cz/kultura/malovec/gram.htm ).

Users. The Universal Esperanto Association (UEA), whose membership
forms the most active part of the Esperanto community, has national
affiliates in 62 countries and individual members in almost twice
that number ( http://uea.org/esperanto_p/landoj ). Numbers of
textbooks sold and membership of local societies put the number of
people with some knowledge of the language in the hundreds of
thousands and possibly millions. There are Esperanto speakers all
over the world, with notable concentrations in countries as diverse
as China, Japan, Brazil, Iran, Madagascar, Bulgaria and Cuba.

Teaching Esperanto. Communicative ability in Esperanto can be rapidly
acquired, so it provides an ideal introduction to foreign-language
study. Within weeks, students can begin to use Esperanto for
correspondence, and within months for school trips abroad. Positive
effects of the prior learning of Esperanto on the study of both first
and second languages are suggested by experimental and anecdotal
evidence. While it is taught in some schools, most people learn it
through self-study or correspondence (using regular or electronic
mail), or through local Esperanto clubs. There are textbooks and self-
instruction materials in more than 100 languages (
http://ikurso.net ; http://lernu.net ). A new website for teachers of
Esperanto http://edukado.net gives some idea of the current
educational activity.

Official recognition. In 1954 the Unesco General Conference
recognized that the achievements of Esperanto match Unesco's aims and
ideals, and official relations were established between Unesco and
UEA ( http://e.euroscola.free.fr/unesko.htm ). Collaboration between
the two organizations continues. In 1977 Unesco's then Director
General, Mr. Amadou-Mahtar M'Bow, addressed the 62nd World Esperanto
Congress. In 1985 the General Conference called on member states and
international organizations to promote the teaching of Esperanto in
schools and its use in international affairs. UEA also has
consultative status with the United Nations, UNICEF, the Council of
Europe, the Organization of American States, and the International
Organization for Standardization (ISO).

Meetings and travel. More than a hundred international conferences
and meetings are held each year in Esperanto - without translators or
interpreters ( http://www.eventoj.hu/kalendar.htm ). The biggest is
the World Congress of Esperanto, held in Adelaide (1997), Montpellier
(1998), Berlin (1999), Tel-Aviv (2000), and Zagreb (2001). World
Congresses will take place in Fortaleza, Brazil (2002); Gothenburg,
Sweden (2003), Beijing (2004), and Vilnius, Lithuania (2005) (
http://uea.org/kongresoj ). The first symposium of Esperanto speakers
in Arab countries took place in Amman in 2000, the fifth All-Americas
Congress was held in Mexico City in 2001, and the next Asian Congress
will be held in Seoul in 2002. The 2002 list of the Pasporta Servo, a
service run by UEA's youth section, contains addresses of 1200 hosts
in 82 countries providing free overnight accommodation to Esperanto-
speaking travelers ( http://tejo.org/ps ).

Research and Libraries. Many universities include Esperanto in
courses on linguistics; a few offer it as a separate subject.
Particularly noteworthy are Eotvos Lorand University in Budapest,
with a degree option in Esperanto, and the University of Poznan,
Poland, with a degree program in interlinguistics. The Modern
Language Association of America's Annual Bibliography records more
than 300 scholarly publications on Esperanto every year. The library
of the Esperanto Association of Britain has more than 20,000 items.
Other large libraries include the International Esperanto Museum in
Vienna (part of the National Library of Austria,
http://www.onb.ac.at/sammlungen/plansprachen/eo/index.htm ), the
Hodler Library at the UEA's headquarters in Rotterdam (
http://esperantic.org/ced/hodler.htm ), and the Esperanto collection
in Aalen, Germany ( http://esperanto.de.nr ). The Vienna and Aalen
collections can be consulted through the Internet and the
international lending system.

Professional contacts and special interests. Organizations for
Esperanto speakers include those for doctors, writers, railway
workers, scientists, musicians, and numerous others. They often
publish their own journals, hold conferences and help to expand the
language for professional and specialized use. The International
Academy of Sciences of San Marino facilitates collaboration at the
university level ( http://ais-sanmarino.org ). Original and
translated publications appear regularly in such fields as astronomy,
computing, botany, entomology, chemistry, law and philosophy.
Organizations exist for special-interest groups such as Scouts and
Guides, the blind, chess and Go players; and UEA's youth section,
TEJO, holds frequent international meetings and publishes its own
periodicals ( http://tejo.org ). Buddhists, Shintoists, Catholics,
Quakers, Protestants, Mormons and Baha'is have their own
organizations, and many social-activist groups use the language (
http://uea.org/esperanto_p/fakoj ).

Literature. The flourishing literary tradition in Esperanto has been
recognized by PEN International, which accepted an Esperanto
affiliate at its 60th Congress in September 1993. Notable present-day
writers in Esperanto include the novelists Trevor Steele (Australia),
Istvan Nemere (Hungary) and Spomenka Stimec (Croatia); the poets
William Auld (Scotland), Mikhail Gishpling (Russia/Israel) and Abel
Montagut (Catalonia); and the essayists and translators Probal
Dasgupta (India), Fernando de Diego (Venezuela) and Kurisu Kei
(Japan). Auld was nominated for the Nobel Prize in Literature in both
1999 and 2000 for his contributions to poetry (
http://dreamwater.net/esperanto ).

Translations. Literary translations published recently include
Hemingway's The Old Man and the Sea, Tolkien's The Lord of the Rings,
Garcia Marquez's One Hundred Years of Solitude, Umar Khayyam's
Rubaiyat, Grass's The Tin Drum, Marco Polo's Book of Wonders, and Cao
Xueqin's great family saga Dream of the Red House (
http://retbutiko.esperanto.be ). For children, Asterix, Winnie-the-
Pooh and Tin-Tin have been joined by Strewelpeter and Pippi
Longstocking, and the complete Moomintroll books of world-renowned
Finnish author Tove Jansson, as well as the Oz books of L. Frank
Baum, have been made available on the World Wide Web. Translations
out of Esperanto include Maskerado, a book published in Esperanto in
1965 by Tivadar Soros, father of the financier George Soros,
detailing the survival of his family during the Nazi occupation of
Budapest. This work was recently published in English in Britain
(2000) and the United States (2001), and has now appeared also in
Russian, German, and Turkish ( http://dreamwater.net/esperanto/uea ).

Theatre and Cinema. Plays by dramatists as diverse as Goldoni,
Ionesco, Shakespeare and Alan Ayckbourn have been performed in recent
years in Esperanto. Many plays of Shakespeare exist in Esperanto
translation: the most recent performance in Esperanto was a
production of King Lear in Hanoi, Vietnam, in December 2001, with a
local cast. Although Chaplin's The Great Dictator used Esperanto-
language signs in its sets, feature-length films are less common. A
notable exception is William Shatner's cult film Incubus, whose
dialogue is entirely in Esperanto ( http://incubusthefilm.com ).

Music. Musical genres in Esperanto include popular and folk songs,
rock, cabaret, solo and choir pieces, and opera. Popular composers
and performers, including Britain's Elvis Costello and the USA's
Michael Jackson, have recorded in Esperanto, written scores inspired
by the language, or used it in their promotional materials. Several
tracks from the all-Esperanto Warner Music album Esperanto, launched
in Spain in November 1996, placed high on the Spanish pop charts.
Classical orchestra and chorus pieces with texts in Esperanto include
Lou Harrison's La Koro Sutro and David Gaines's first symphony, both
from the US. Music in Esperanto can be found on-line, including
several sites devoted to Esperanto karaoke ( http://radio-
esperanto.com http://dmoz.org/World/Esperanto/Muziko http://esperanto-
panorama.net/ikse/muziko.htm ).

Periodicals. Over 100 magazines and journals are published regularly
in Esperanto, including the monthly news magazine Monato, the
literary magazine Fonto, and UEA's own journal Esperanto. The
biweekly news digest Eventoj offers an electronic edition as well, as
does Monato and Gxangalo ( http://gxangalo.com ); a number of
magazines provide on-line archives. Other periodicals include
publications in medicine and science, religious magazines,
periodicals for young people, educational periodicals, literary
magazines, and special-interest publications (
http://lingvo.org/en/3/253 ).

Radio and television. Radio stations in Austria, Brazil, China, Cuba,
Estonia, Hungary, Italy and Poland broadcast regularly in Esperanto,
as does Vatican Radio ( http://wrn.org/ondemand/poland.html
http://osiek.org/aera ). Several programs are also available over the
Internet ( http://esperanto-panorama.net/ikse/radio.htm ). TV
stations in various countries broadcast Esperanto courses, including
a recent 16-part adaptation of the BBC's Muzzy in Gondoland on the
Polish Channel One network.

Internet. Electronic networks are the fastest-growing means of
communication among Esperanto speakers. There are several hundred
mailing lists in Esperanto, for discussion of topics ranging from the
family use of the language to the general theory of relativity (
http://purl.org/net/dissendo ). Esperanto is widely used in such
chatroom protocols as ICQ, IRC and PalTalk ( http://babilejo.org ).
Web pages in Esperanto number in the hundreds of thousands (
http://eo.wikipedia.org ). Some can be found through the Virtual
Esperanto Library at http://esperanto.net/veb/, others by
typing "Esperanto" in any search engine.

UEA services. UEA publishes books, magazines, and a yearbook listing
Esperanto organizations and local representatives around the world.
These publications, along with information on records, cassettes,
etc., are listed in UEA's book catalogue, also available on the World
Wide Web ( http://uea.org/katalogo ). The Association's Book Service
has more than 3500 titles in stock. An English-language series
published by UEA, Esperanto Documents (ISSN 0165-2575), includes
studies and reports on the current situation of Esperanto, which are
available from its Central Office in Rotterdam.

For further information on Esperanto, contact UEA at Nieuwe Binnenweg
176, NL-3015 BJ Rotterdam, The Netherlands (tel. +31-10-436-1044; fax
436-1751; e-mail uea@... ), at 777 United Nations Plaza, New
York, NY 10017, USA (tel. +1-212-687-7041; fax 949-4177), or via its
website at http://www.uea.org

BONSOIR MR LE DOCTEUR.
Je suis tres content de recevoir ton message.Ce que
vous dites que c'est l'homme le probleme je le crois
mais aussi à vrais dire c'est la religion qui est le
probleme.La cause est que chaque personne croit à sa
religion de tel sorte qu'il pense que y a pas d'autres
religions pour lui.donc chaque personne doit respecter
sa religion et celui d'autrui.




MR le docteur je vous demande d'etre un citoyen, du
monde, moi qui parle avec vous j'etais citoyen du
monde longtemps san m'inscrire.celui qui m'a donne
pour la premiere fois l'adresse du world citizen
lorsqu'il m'a montré la carte d'identité mondial
j'etais tellement content parceque je savais le
mouvement du WC va amener une democratie partout dans
le monde.la carte d'identité etait de couleur jaune.



SEULE LE GOUVERNEMNT DU MONDE  PEUT AMENER LA PAIX
DANS LE MONDE.
                         MERCI.
                 lamarrrollinsel@...

               de la part de BAMBA WADE.




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Ehecatl
El Viento de Aztlan
Primavera     Xihuitl Nahui Acatl     Spring
2003

Indigenous Peoples Peace Initiative
Year 4 Reed, Day Two Crocodile
Wednesday, March 12, 2003

Izkalotlan, Aztlan

Emerging from a three day traditional gathering of Indigenous Nations
and Pueblos, a legation of Indigenous Peoples initiated today a
global Indigenous Peoples Peace Initiative intended to restore the
principles of yectlamatcayetoliztli (PEACE) as a mandate of humanity
from the future generations.  The proclamation was made from the
NAHUACALLI, Embassy of the Indigenous Peoples located in Phoenix,
Arizona.

We must disarm the global regime of nationalism of the state. The
psychologies of hatred and competition under which the government
states of the world would have us sacrifice our humanity and our
children to senseless wars will no longer be tolerated.  As
Indigenous Peoples of the world, we further challenge the government
states of the United Nations system to criminalize the destructive
impact of warfare upon the ecosystems of the Earth itself, by
defining appropriate international legal protocols regarding the
conduct of warfare such as the Geneva Convention. Said Tupac Enrique
Acosta, member of the Xicano Nahuatl Nation.

To implement the Indigenous Peoples Peace Initiative, representatives
of the diverse and distinct Indigenous Nations attending the launch
of the global campaign, moved out from the Nahaucalli embassy in the
Four Directions, with assignments to convoke the traditional
spiritual leadership from around the world to engage in the
restoration process of Peace and Dignity. The first objective of the
Indigenous Peoples Peace Initiative (IPPI) is to make known to the
conscience of all humanity that the calls to war by the government
states will not apply to the Indigenous Peoples globally, and will
not be answered.  Instead, the Indigenous Nations of the continent
Itzachilatlan, (the Americas) propose that the indigenous nation
confederations from around the world rise to reclaim the destiny of
the future generations, by invoking spiritual and moral authority as
the protectors of the Mother Earth. The Indigenous Peoples of this
hemisphere have maintained such a spiritual, cultural, and political
confederacy since time immemorial.  This confederacy is known as the
Confederation of the Eagle and the Condor.

In terms of communications, the IPPI has implemented a hyperspace
linkup, and will be delivering a message to the United Nations
representatives of the Permanent Forum on Indigenous Issues under the
Economic and Social Council on May 15 in New York.  The NAHUACALLI in
Phoenix, Arizona will serve as clearing house for the first phase of
the Indigenous Peoples Peace Initiative.

Referring to the Xiuhpohualli, the count of years of Izkalotlan,
Aztlan which correlates to other counts of calendar systems among the
Maya and Nahua Nations, the delegation travels now to fulfill an
ancestral mandate called the prophecy of the Sixth Sun given on
August the 13, 1521 in Mexico.  It is the dawn of the Sun of
Justice.  The first rays of light from the East have been seen, they
have been felt, said one youth who has made a lifelong commitment to
the goals of the initiative.  Now is the time to go forward in a
sacred manner.  A new world is about to be born!

Ehecatl is the official publication of  NAHUACALLI - TONATIERRA

Contact: Tupac Enrique Acosta, chantlaca
Tel: (602) 254-5230 Fax: (602) 252-6094

chantlaca@...

TONATIERRA
http://www.tonatierra.org

Email: tonal@...
=====
Mandate of the Indigenous Peoples

"All peoples have the right to self determination."  These are the
words of United Nations General Assembly resolution 1514, passed on
December 14, 1960, in the wake of the cresting global movement to
declare colonization a crime against humanity, a violation of the
international law of nation states.

The declaration of colonization as a violation of international law
for the first time in the context of the United Nations system,
placed the government states who were in violation under the scrutiny
of the General Assembly. Procedures were put in place to identify
criteria that would specifically describe the Non-Self-Governing
Territories under colonization and also establish a reporting system
for the violating government states to move these colonized peoples
towards self determination. As example, the U.S. government reported
to the UN Decolonization Commision, established under section 73(e)
of the United Nations Charter until 1960, in the case of the
territories of Alaska and Hawaii.

From the same resolution, GA 1514:

"The General Assembly,
Solemnly proclaims the necessity of bringing to speedy and
unconditional end colonialism in all its forms and manifestations…"

For over 3,500 years our relatives have been contending with
colonization under the Aryan philosophy of racial and cultural
superiority in their traditional territories, ever since even before
they were invaded by Alexander the Great. They also, like we native
nations of this continent are mistakenly called Indians. They call
themselves the ADIVASI, one of the Indigenous Peoples of the Indian
subcontinent. Along with the Adivasi, the Maori of Aotearoa (AKA New
Zealand), the multiple and diverse Indigenous Nations from the former
Soviet Union territories, the Inuit Circumpolar Conference, the
Hawaiians, Pacific Islanders, Indigenous Peoples of the Southeast
Asian Peninsula as well as the Mainland, we joined as the Indigenous
Nations of Itzachilatlan (AKA the Americas), Africa, Europe and
Australia to witness and strengthen the global political position of
the Indigenous Peoples upon the inauguration of the UN Permanent
Forum on Indigenous Issues, May 13, 2002 in New York.

The Permanent Forum on Indigenous Issues is a 16 member body of
independent experts, eight of whom are nominated by the government
states, and eight nominated by the Indigenous Peoples themselves in a
process that reflects 7 geo-cultural regions of the world with one
rotating seat. Established as an advisory body to the Economic and
Social Council, the Permanent Forum creates for the first time within
the global system of governance that is the United Nations, a vehicle
by which the Indigenous Peoples and Nations can represent their
interests directly to the UN. The inaugural session of the Permanent
Forum was opened by the Tadodaho (traditional chief) from Onandaga,
guardians of the Grand Council Fire of the Haudenosaunee Six Nations
Iroquois Confederacy, upon whose traditional territories the UN
building itself stands.  Among the Xicanos of Aztlan, there exists an
especially strong tie of culture and kinship with the Haudenosaunee
that goes back to the Wounded Knee conflict of 1973, and further
still to Mad Bear Anderson's continental Unity Caravan under the
White Roots of Peace and the initiative he led to Cuba, attempting to
achieve international recognition for the Haudenosaunee passport and
nationality on a par with that of the US or any other government
state. More profoundly, among the archives of traditional memory of
the Tezcatlipoca Aztlan, there exists the teaching of relations
between the founder of the Six Nations Confederacy, called the
Peacemaker, and the disciples of the teachings of Quetzalcoatl Ce
Acatl in Mexico.

As the first week of the Permanent Forum drew to a close, a sense of
urgency and acknowledgment united the indigenous representatives at
the UN. The Indigenous Peoples - our nations, communities, and
families are on the front line of the assault being systematically
waged as the global multinational corporate structure voraciously
extracts natural resources and spews contamination in order to
maintain industrial dominance of the current consumer market model of
economic globalization. At the Permanent Forum, the Indigenous
Nations testified repeatedly that time is running out to rectify the
relationship of the human society globally in order to achieve
sustainability within the natural ecosystems of the Earth.  It will
soon be too late for words, too late to reverse the effects of the
petroleum based industrial model that has pushed the world into the
scenario of what will inevitably be the terrible effects of global
warming, environmental degradation, and deforestation.

Among the Indigenous Caucus convened at the UN in New York, it has
also become mutually acknowledged and reinforced at each
international conference where the Indigenous Peoples are in
attendance, that the Indigenous Peoples worldwide are the best hope
as a strategic political bloc with global context, history, and
coherence that is not controlled by the fractured allegiances or
ideologies of the nation state paradigm, nor captured by the values
of the multinational corporate regime of global resource
expropriation. At the core of this mutual acknowledgment is an
appreciation for the spirituality of the ancient and diverse
Indigenous Peoples as caretakers of the Earth. This enduring
foundation has provided the precept of a planetary constitution that
describes the Indigenous Nations and Peoples as a global
confederation of families, communities, tribes, organizations,
nations, and Nations of Nations in alliance. In this hemisphere, this
precept is known as the prophecy of the Eagle and the Condor.

When Pope Alexander the VI, himself a member of the infamous Borgia
family, issued the Papal Bull Inter Cetera on May 3-4, 1493 the
precursor estates that have led to the present colonial nation state
formation on this continent were given their empowerment in terms of
the international legal system of the so called "West."  It was under
the jurisprudence of this international decree, clothed in the
religious authority of the Vatican, that the colonization, terracide
and genocide of this hemisphere acquired its initial justification as
a civilized action, again in terms of the "West", and specifically
for the representative political powers of the time: the royal
families of Spain and Portugal. Under this edict, the geographical
fact of discovery was tied to the politico-religious act of dominion
implemented with exclusivity in favor of the European American
invaders.  This Papal Bull has never been abrogated or annulled and
remains in effect.

The New World was such for the West not just in the geographical
sense, it was new and revolutionary in the fact that the Indigenous
Peoples social contract that gave context to the political
infrastructure of the culture emanated through a spirituality of
reverence for the elemental forces of nature, in which there was no
concept of things outside of nature or "supernatural."  Nor was the
human identity given preference or exclusivity as the being the
dominant personality of society, which included all other life forms
of winged, crawling, swimming, and other creatures in the natural
world order.  It was these egalitarian political precepts that upon
arrival in the Europe of the 1500's, gave germination to the
revolutions of liberation which eventually toppled the rule by
royalty in this hemisphere, and gave birth to the modern republic-
states presently internationally recognized and in status as members
of the UN. In the transition, however, from colony to republic, not
one of the newly formed nation states of the hemisphere has revoked
the initial claim to jurisdiction established under the Papal Bull of
1493, known as the Doctrine of Discovery.

In fact, although the UN General Assembly resolution 1514 proclaims
colonization as a violation of international law, and the criteria
and protocols for decolonization clearly are relevant and should be
applied to the indigenous nation territories, a Doctrine of Denial
and complicity exists among the government states of the western
hemisphere to block implementation by the Indigenous Nations and
Peoples of the right to decolonization.  In other words, the
processes of decolonization applied after World War II to the African
continent and other colonial territories is not to be repeated or
made inclusive of the Indigenous Peoples. To accomplish this
duplicity, the government states of the United Nation systems have
refused to accede to identifying the Indigenous Peoples as Peoples,
referring to us "indigenous populations" only or in the singular
as "indigenous people" thus precluding the right to self
determination and collective rights within the global matrix which is
the established international legal system of the so
called "civilized world."  Specific to North, Central and South
America, the government states of the continent have colluded to
enforce the Doctrine of Denial under the international legal system
and the United Nations, within which these governments are recognized
as "indigenous to the hemisphere" thus shielding them collectively as
violators of UN General Assembly Resolution 1514.

The call for a permanent forum within the United Nations system for
Indigenous Peoples derives from the historical resistance movement of
the Indigenous Peoples and Nations worldwide to colonization.  In the
implementation, the UN has established within the Economic and Social
Council the Permanent Forum on Indigenous Issues. The concept of a
forum is a description of social space, wherein a dialogue is
possible.  Any true dialogue requires a minimum of two perspectives,
a dynamic of duality must be present at all phases of the process,
including design, implementation, and evaluation. Within the
diplomatic language of the international system, unless the Permanent
Forum on Indigenous Issues is to be simply a disempowering token
exercise for the Indigenous Peoples, there must be recognition from
the start that the Permanent Forum operates under a Dual Mandate.

We have arrived at the moment in history of the world where a
dialogue among civilizations and world views is necessary at the
global level.  Only so will the hope for Peace and Dignity with
justice for our human society survive, established through a
sustainable ecological relationship with the Mother Earth itself as
foundation.  This is the Mandate of the Indigenous Peoples; it
supersedes that of the United Nations system; it is an expression of
the jurisprudence of indigenous international law: it is the path of
Tradition and Liberation.


Tupac Enrique Acosta
TONATIERRA
P.O. Box  24009
Phoenix AZ   85076
Email: chantlaca@...

http://www.tonatierra.org

CONIC
Council of Indigenous Organizations and Nations of the Continent

CONIC is comprised of indigenous organizations with a 12 year track
record of intercontinental organizing and solidarity as Indigenous
Nations and Pueblos.  As a unique model of native empowerment, one
that is maturing into proactive positions on native issues across the
continent, the CONIC provides the continental platform of context for
TONATIERRA in the present era of globalization. TONATIERRA is a
leading force among the CONIC member organizations, collectively
pursuing the process of organizational development across the
continent, guided by the ancestral values and history of our Native
Nations on the path of self determination and sustainable community
development.

salut bamba
moi je suis beninois et je suis etudiant en science
politique .le concept citoyen du monde je l ai adopte
depuis fort lomgtemps et je penses que cette cause est
juste et noble .il me reste maintenant a me faire
enregister normalement et obtenir la carte d identite
mondiale et le passport car je ne vsaurais voyager
sans cela desormais mais j aimerai savoir si les
procedures sont draconnienne ?ok  porte vous bien et a
bientot











  --- bamba wade <bambawade@...> a écrit :
---------------------------------

                         BONSOIR MR LE DOCTEUR.
Je suis tres content de recevoir ton message.Ce que
vous dites que c'est l'homme le probleme je le crois
mais aussi à vrais dire c'est la religion qui est le
probleme.La cause est que chaque personne croit à sa
religion de tel sorte qu'il pense que y a pas d'autres
religions pour lui.donc chaque personne doit respecter
sa religion et celui d'autrui.




MR le docteur je vous demande d'etre un citoyen, du
monde, moi qui parle avec vous j'etais citoyen du
monde longtemps san m'inscrire.celui qui m'a donne
pour la premiere fois l'adresse du world citizen
lorsqu'il m'a montré la carte d'identité mondial
j'etais tellement content parceque je savais le
mouvement du WC va amener une democratie partout dans
le monde.la carte d'identité etait de couleur jaune.



SEULE LE GOUVERNEMNT DU MONDE  PEUT AMENER LA PAIX
DANS LE MONDE.
                         MERCI.
                 lamarrrollinsel@...

               de la part de BAMBA WADE.




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URGENT CAMPAIGNS FOR PEACE .

Dear Caring friends  ,

The Siege of Baghdad:  Are you, going to passively sit by as
US government lays siege to a city, killing and maiming its inhabitants,
starving and terrorizing men, women and children in order to
"Liberate" them? (Source: http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/  )

Please click here to look into Iraqi children's eyes to see what
they are telling us :  http://electroniciraq.net/news/394.shtml
Please read this Iraqi "Civilians"  Body Count :
        http://www.iraqbodycount.net/

Does President Bush even care about his own troops lives?
read this:  "Bush : U.S. Will Fight as Long as It Takes .  "
http://www.themoscowtimes.com/stories/2003/03/28/002.html

The Pentagon has no plans to allow media access to a U.S.
Air Force base receiving the bodies of US soldiers killed in Iraq :
http://www.reuters.com/newsArticle.jhtml?type=focusIraqNews&storyID=246937
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More references: http://truthout.org/docs_03/033003A.shtml
                            http://162.42.211.226/index.html

   The WAR IS HORROR, TERROR ON ALL SIDES.
Please Urgently join the following 5 activities and letter
writing campaigns as much as you can to show you care ! thanks.
===========================================

Campaign # 1:  NATIONAL MARCH .
                        SATURDAY, APRIL 12  :
                     MARCH ON WASHINGTON.

                   STOP THE WAR ON IRAQ!
                     Gather at 12 Noon
                 March on the White House
                     Joint Action in SF & LA
   http://www.internationalanswer.org/campaigns/a12/index.html
   http://www.internationalanswer.org/

   For Local and Regional Contact information :
   http://www.internationalanswer.org/contacts.html#TX
=======================================

Campaign # 2:   VOTE TO IMPEACH :   (in US )

1:  PLEASE CAST YOUR VOTES TO IMPEACH
      WAR CRIMES: (please fill out the form) :

         http://www.votetoimpeach.org/

2: If you have a website, you may consider to add this
    VoteToImpeach.org   button to your web site,
    click here to know how:
         http://www.votetoimpeach.org/add_link.htm

3: URGENT APPEAL :  please donate if you can :
     to help to get the words out  :
     http://www.votetoimpeach.org/donate.htm

4:  If you have any question on this campaign, please contact :
  International A.N.S.W.E.R.(Act Now to Stop War & End Racism)
  39 W. 14 St., #206, NY, NY 10011 · (212) 633-6646
=======================================

Campaign # 3:  LOCAL ANTI-WAR ACTIVITIES in US.

Click :    http://www.unitedforpeace.org/

Then click your "State",  you will find many activities
in your state.  Then click on each blue event line to get
all of the detail Contact information.

You may also click search the Calender by event type .

  ======================================

Campaign # 4:  PROTEST THE FOX NEWS TV :

  Please Protest Fox News Channel's War Coverage
Thursday, April 3rd ,  2003 12 Noon ,  Washington, DC

According to United For Peace ,   it said  :
    " Fox News Channel is the most Pro-War television station
in the United States. While claiming to be "fair and balanced",
Fox actually makes no attempt to be either one.   Rather than
reporting the news, Fox cheerleads for the Pentagon.
Rather than reporting the reality of the war in Iraq, Fox
glorifies the warriors and underplays the human cost of war. "

  WHAT YOU CAN DO  :

1:  Please join Global Exchange protest on April 3rd :
     Washington, DC Protest: Thursday, Noon, 400 North Capitol, NE
     San Francisco Protest:: Thursday, Noon, 901 Battery Street
                                        (at Vallejo)
      Please call   415-575-5555   (in U.S.)  or
      Emailing :    peace@...
      http://www.unitedforpeace.org/calendar.php?calid=4285

2:  Please also send your plea to FCC
  (Federal Communication Commission) : POLITELY tell them:

    Please demand FOX NEWS TV to have honest, fair and
    balanced reports instead of  complete biased Pro-war ,
    hawkish hard-line  news & reports.

(for more info on FCC:   http://www.fcc.gov/aboutus.html)
   Please BE POLITE and send short comments to FCC :
   The Contact information for FCC Commissioners:
   Please send your comments to all of the following 5 commissioners:

    a:  http://www.fcc.gov/commissioners/powell/mkp_email.html
    b:  http://www.fcc.gov/commissioners/abernathy/mail.html
    c:  http://www.fcc.gov/commissioners/copps/mail.html
    d:  http://www.fcc.gov/commissioners/martin/mail.html
    e:  http://www.fcc.gov/commissioners/adelstein/mail.html


3:  Please also contact FOX Broadcasting company,
      Please very POLITELY send a message to FOX to

      Please have honest, balanced TV news & reports.
      Please stop all hawkish, hard-line reports & interviews.

   Please copy the following 3 addresses and paste into your
   TO field or BCC field in your email :
   Address to :   Dear FOX ,

   Email:   IveyV@... ,
               joeea@... ,
               scottgro@...,
   =======================================

Campaign # 5 :  WRITE TO U.N. TO DEMAND TO
INVESTIGATE MR. KOFI ANNAN and  REPLACE HIM.

( Note:  Enclose a Sample letter here for your reference.
              you are urged to write your own letter if you wish . )
              Please be Polite and be short .  thanks. )

Enclosed a Sample Letter for your reference .
All of the important CONTACT INFO. follows the sample letter :

SAMPLE LETTER :

Dear United Nation ,

" ....for the first time since 1991, .. the West - are spraying
these uranium aerosols in battlefield explosions in southern Iraq; "
      http://truthout.org/docs_03/032703D.shtml

So far, we have not heard UN Secretary General Kofi Annan
to formally condemn the US, UK barbaric, illegal, relentless
terror  bombings on helpless Iraq .    What  we heard is
Mr. Annan's one sided condemning on Iraq for not 100%
obeying US  hegemony's endless demands.

It appears Mr. Annan's blurring words on March 27, 2003
meant war is Ok  to continue , however, the world must feed
Iraqi people while US and UK continue to use missiles raining
down on helpless Iraq.  Mr. Annan did not demand US and UK
to immediately  "HALT THE  WAR & BOMBING".

  The weak and inconsistent leadership of UN secretary-general
Kofi Annan. The statement he issued following the start of the
war contains no forthright criticism of an action that seen by most
of the world as an unlawful attack, a violation of the UN Charter
and defiance of the Security Council.

" .....By failing to do the same in the case of Iraq, Annan seems,
in effect, to be acquiescing to, if not openly endorsing,  the US
attack on Iraq specifically, and the dangerous new doctrine of
pre-emptive war more generally. "
   (Source:  http://electroniciraq.net/news/404.shtml )

Iraqi UN envoy Mohammed Al-Douri accused the United States
of arranging contracts to rebuild Iraq in 1997.   He said the US is
now using the "humanitarian"  issue to hide its "criminal aggression."
  http://www.themoscowtimes.com/stories/2003/03/28/002.html

Many people have been wondering whether Mr. Annan is
also one of the beneficiaries of the US money bribing targets ??

Therefore, we urge U.N. to investigate Mr. Kofi Annan and
replace him immediately with someone who can really do the
job to halt the horrible, bloody  War  now .

We also urge all peaceful countries to stop buying goods and
services from the U.S.  due to the more economic strength in
U.S.,  the more U.S. bombings and terrors imposed on other
weaker countries.  The US now spends half of the entire
country's budget in military & weapons .

We appreciate your urgent efforts for the World Peace .

Sincerely,

Your Name
City,  COUNTRY.
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CONTACT INFORMATION for U.N. and some leaders :

NOTE : Please Copy the following list and Paste into BCC field
in your Email. Then put your other different  Email address  in the
TO field.   Before you hit Send,  check everything correctly !
  It must have a comma between the addresses.
(**all of the addresses below collected from various websites.)

*****ATTENTION:  Please DIVIDE the following list into smaller
list contains for no more than 50 email addresses each time in your
BCC field due to some ISP may not allow for more than 50 email
addresses each time  in BCC or CC field in your email.

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Thanks for your urgent efforts for the World Peace and Humanity.

J`AI LU VOTRE MESSAGE ET MERCI DE VOTRE ATTENTION

JE M`EXCUSE PARCE QUE JE SUIT TRES ATTACHE PAR LE TRAVAIL

MAIS EN DISCUTERA PLUS TARD

A BIENTO..

 nazaire bonou <bonaz12002@...> wrote:

                                        Bonne réception à ta lettre et je t'en remercie profondement. Sache désormais que nous avons les mêmes points de vu.

Les gens ne savent pas que nous sommes dans un même et unique VILLAGE malgré la race le pays ou même le continent.

             La GUERRE***************la GUERRE*******et la GUERRE ?????????????

 Nous en parlerons plus tard . Je t'aime bien......

                                      BONOU Nazaire

 raoul tele <raoultele2001@...> wrote:

Salut Bamaba,
tres ravi de te lire et constater que tu es interesse
par ce qui se passe dans le monde
en effet mon point de vue quant à l'accusation porte
contre la religion est que à voir ce qu'on fait les
musulmans,ce qu'ils font et ce qu'ils pourraient faire
encore on a de bonne raison de penser que la religion
en est la cause
peut_etre est-tu musulman mais si tu comprenais et
voiyaient un peu la reaction de certains quand ils
entendent "americain" tu verrais que c'est comme ci on
les inculquais cela on les enseignait dans leur lieu
de rassemblem
excuse-moi pour ce point vue s'il est flou c'est que
je compte m'exprimer plus clairem tres prochainem
  porte toi bien
     à bientot
        raoul,  

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je suis tres content de recovoir votres message et meme tu as parle que tuotes les proplemes est la religion .. mais je ne crois pas .. je peux dire que je intresse beaucoup ce qui ce passe dans le monde.. et meme fois mon point de vue je crois il ya un querre entre les politiciannes..