Al and Chuck, ALL LOGIC AND SCIENCE is based on ILLUSIONS and BELIEFS: an ILLUSION of subject/object (observation), an ILLUSION of time (separate sequential...
From: Chuck Gierhart>You ask, "Isn't the belief in no intelligent higher power also a religion?" I can only say that not believing in something for which there...
From: Chuck Gierhart Evolution is not an act of faith. It is an act of observation. It's story is told in the fossil record and your RNA and DNA.>> The head of...
*** After a Good Night’s Sleep I’ve Revised this Posting in Green Font and Re-sent **** Al and Chuck, ALL LOGIC AND SCIENCE is based on ILLUSIONS and...
"Jody W. Ianuzzi" <jody@...> wrote:> A chair is just a chair. ... JODY is just JODY Have I been smoking the wacky tabacky again? Maybe I had some of the meds...
Bill, Does that include this logic? From: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of BillSmart@... Sent: Sunday, July...
Al, IMNSHO the term is more properly Zen Christianity (as in Zen Buddhism). It would be a practice of zen from a Christian perspective using Christian ...
SORRY! After thinking about this during my shower I want to CORRECT my post as follows: 'Christian Zen' is actually a good term for this. In fact it is the...
Bill, Not exactly. If “ALL LOGIC AND SCIENCE is based on ILLUSIONS and BELIEFS” then your logic is as well. It’s a bit like saying, “This statement is...
Chuck, NOW YOU’RE GETTING IT! Welcome to zen. ... I do indeed use logic, and I use it very, very well. It is illusory, however; I know that. I also use my...
It seems like most messages from Bill and some others have these little Cyrrillic type characters in the words. Half the time I cannot read the message because...
Al, I checked this out on the Forum website and see what you mean. I get all posts via email and my posts look okay to me. These all appear to be punctuation...
Al, These all looked okay to me both in the email and on the website. Did they look okay to you? Chuck, Is there any LOGICAL explanation for this, or is this...
... From: BillSmart@... To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2008 7:42 AM Subject: RE: [Zen] Dear Bill A REPOSTING TEST to get rid of...
Bill and Chuck, "Wash your bowls" is as good as any non-logical statement, I guess. However, `ordinary mind is the Way` seems to allow for logic to be used...
Hello, I just recently joined the group, and wanted to introduce myself to everyone. My name is Jeremy, and I live in a small town in upstate New York, not...
Thanks to 9-11 and the Muslims, has America become more polarized than ever? Have all the people that wanted to study Zen and meditation given up? I used to...
Mike, This post was not sent to me via email as most posts are. I don't know why. That happens sometimes. Since I hadn't received any postings recently I...
Bill, You say: "I also beleive, as you do, that zen and Buddhism are not the same. I beleive Buddhism is a religion and is a sub-set of zen, and so are most...
Chuck, Thanks as always for your post. You are not wrong in the history, genealogy and classification of zen you present in your post attached below. This is...
From: BillSmart@>Do you now understand my perspective? Do you accept it, or do you have a different perspective?> This sounds like ego to me. It is typical of...
Hi Bill, It seems to me that you have redefined Zen. I mean no disrespect, but aren't you calling an apple an orange? I might add that it tastes the same no...
Chuck, Referring to your posting below: Respect/disrespect is not important to me, at least not in this forum. I'm just thankful to see people staying on the...
