I am searching for the best way to get into breeding wild type betta.
Where would you suggest I start? I want them to be available through
Mark and that is my only requirement. A challenge is nice but would
like to start off with less of a challenge.
thanks
Adam

Are you interested in mouthbrooders or bubblenesters?

--- In anubiasdesign@yahoogroups.com, "a_redneck_in_in" <a.laslie@...>
wrote:
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> I am searching for the best way to get into breeding wild type betta.
> Where would you suggest I start? I want them to be available through
> Mark and that is my only requirement. A challenge is nice but would
> like to start off with less of a challenge.
> thanks
> Adam
>

I am searching for the best way to get into breeding wild type betta.
Where would you suggest I start? I want them to be available through
Mark and that is my only requirement. A challenge is nice but would
like to start off with less of a challenge.
thanks
Adam

--- In anubiasdesign@yahoogroups.com, "a_redneck_in_in"
<a.laslie@...> wrote:
>
> I am searching for the best way to get into breeding wild type
betta.
> Where would you suggest I start? I want them to be available through
> Mark and that is my only requirement. A challenge is nice but would
> like to start off with less of a challenge.
> thanks
> Adam
>

Start with B. Imbellis. I got several pairs from Mark over a year
ago. I put one pair in a 29 gallon tank with driftwood and heavily
planted with crypts and java fern, and lot's of duckweed on the
surface. I now have over 40 bettas in the tank (several generations).
I constantly see 1/2 babies in the mass of plants. I don't even feed
the babies (no BBS); in fact I only feed the tank once a day (flake
or frozen bw, frozen daphnia and occasionally live blackworms). I
need to pull some pairs out of there ...

I also have a pair of B. sp. Mahachai producing fry in a 10 gallon
tank ... tank has a potted crypt, driftwood and some java fern. Must
have over 50 fry in there from several spawns.

I was able to breed some B. Smaragdina in the same manner.

I am setting up a 150g planted tank that is 24" deep.  What type of
lighting should I use?  Where is the best place to get what I need?
What things must I consider?  Andy

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To: anubiasdesign@yahoogroups.com
From: ajw7003@...
Date: Fri, 7 Mar 2008 23:59:43 +0000
Subject: [anubiasdesign] Info on lighting for 150g planted tank

I am setting up a 150g planted tank that is 24" deep. What type of
lighting should I use? Where is the best place to get what I need?
What things must I consider? Andy

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From: troy nutting

To: anubiasdesign@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Friday, March 07, 2008 7:17 PM

Subject: RE: [anubiasdesign] Info on lighting for 150g planted tank

I think you first need to decide what type-of water you have from your faucet and what plants are best suited for that water. Makes it easier doing water changes.....

Do you want high tech, low tech? Usually describes how much light or watts per gallon also depends on plant requirements.
Probably will need co2 injection. If you don't know about plant fertilization research plantedtank.net forum for dosing reegime ( it is a sticky under water parameters.

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To: anubiasdesign@yahoogroups.com
From: ajw7003@yahoo.com
Date: Fri, 7 Mar 2008 23:59:43 +0000
Subject: [anubiasdesign] Info on lighting for 150g planted tank

I am setting up a 150g planted tank that is 24" deep. What type of
lighting should I use? Where is the best place to get what I need?
What things must I consider? Andy

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I want a low tech set up, no CO2.

My water is very soft,slightly acidic.  I have had a 46g bowfront with
   compact florescent bulbs(110w)that has been running about 6 months.
  I have a 2" Florite substrate, plants are doing great.  No CO2
injection.
This will be my 1st big tank set up.  I want to keep costs low, so low
tech is the way I will go.
I appreciate your ideas.


--- In anubiasdesign@yahoogroups.com, troy nutting <tnutt8089@...> wrote:
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> I think you first need to decide what type-of water you have from
your faucet and what plants are best suited for that water. Makes it
easier doing water changes.....
>
> Do you want high tech, low tech? Usually describes how much light or
watts per gallon also depends on plant requirements.
> Probably will need co2 injection. If you don't know about plant
fertilization research plantedtank.net forum for dosing reegime ( it
is a sticky under water parameters.
>
>
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> To: anubiasdesign@yahoogroups.com
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I want a low tech set up, no CO2.

My water is very soft,slightly acidic. I have had a 46g bowfront with
compact florescent bulbs(110w)that has been running about 6 months.
I have a 2" Florite substrate, plants are doing great. No CO2
injection.
This will be my 1st big tank set up. I want to keep costs low, so low
tech is the way I will go.
I appreciate your ideas.

--- In anubiasdesign@yahoogroups.com, troy nutting <tnutt8089@...> wrote:
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>
> I think you first need to decide what type-of water you have from
your faucet and what plants are best suited for that water. Makes it
easier doing water changes.....
>
> Do you want high tech, low tech? Usually describes how much light or
watts per gallon also depends on plant requirements.
> Probably will need co2 injection. If you don't know about plant
fertilization research plantedtank.net forum for dosing reegime ( it
is a sticky under water parameters.
>
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> To: anubiasdesign@yahoogroups.com
> From: ajw7003@...
> Date: Fri, 7 Mar 2008 23:59:43 +0000
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To: anubiasdesign@yahoogroups.com
From: anubiasdesign@...
Date: Sat, 8 Mar 2008 08:01:21 -0800
Subject: Re: [anubiasdesign] Re: Info on lighting for 150g planted tank

Andy,

What fish are you planning to keep?

Mark

Andy Wallace <ajw7003@yahoo.com> wrote:

I want a low tech set up, no CO2.

My water is very soft,slightly acidic. I have had a 46g bowfront with
compact florescent bulbs(110w)that has been running about 6 months.
I have a 2" Florite substrate, plants are doing great. No CO2
injection.
This will be my 1st big tank set up. I want to keep costs low, so low
tech is the way I will go.
I appreciate your ideas.

--- In anubiasdesign@yahoogroups.com, troy nutting <tnutt8089@...> wrote:
>
>
> I think you first need to decide what type-of water you have from
your faucet and what plants are best suited for that water. Makes it
easier doing water changes.....
>
> Do you want high tech, low tech? Usually describes how much light or
watts per gallon also depends on plant requirements.
> Probably will need co2 injection. If you don't know about plant
fertilization research plantedtank.net forum for dosing reegime ( it
is a sticky under water parameters.
>
>
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> To: anubiasdesign@yahoogroups.com
> From: ajw7003@...
> Date: Fri, 7 Mar 2008 23:59:43 +0000
> Subject: [anubiasdesign] Info on lighting for 150g planted tank
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two critters Ild love to find are some old friends of mine from when was a kid
they made great pets and Im building a tank to house them now
Im looking for the all elusive fire eel
and the ever friendly black knife fish
Mastacembelus erythrotaenia
and
Apteronotus albifrons

Ive been out of aquariums for a while
and moved so I dont know any quality sources for my fish
I build tanks fairly regularly
but havnt built one  up for myself in ages

wondering if you can help me locate these two

Soft water, low tech, low lights... sounds like a Cryptocoryne and
friends tank! For the lights, I would find an incandescent tank light
and replace the bulbs with compact florescent household bulbs. There
are a variety of spectrums on these bulbs. You can try different ones
until you find keepers, and the trial bulbs are still useful for home
lighting.

If you don't find an incandescent hood you like, you can instead build
a canopy and install a row of closet fixtures, and cord them
independently so that you can start with one bulb, and add more during
the day. By staggering the timers on the bulbs, you can have a 12 hour
photoperiod, but each light will burn for no more than 8 or 9 hours.

Shop lights with electronic ballasts at Home Depot: $8.50.
Daylight T8s at Home Depot: $3.50 ($7 for 2)
Fulham Workhorse ballasts to overdrive them if necessary: $20 per shop
light (for each 2xT8)
Growing plants without expensive lighting: priceless

I'd use shop lights, see what you can grow, then overdrive them with
Fulham Workhorse ballasts if you don't think you're getting enough
output (a distinct possibility since the tank is so deep).

On Sun, Mar 9, 2008 at 2:48 PM, Jeffrey Cummings <jlc3835@...> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
> I'm new to this group ... but a "low tech" kind of guy.  I would get some
> low - reflection (anti glare glass (mine came from a picture framer cheap as
> odd sized) and use some high-watage florecent lighting for plants. I am
> experimenting w/ Regents Florecent outdoor security lights (Lowe's or Home
> Depot approx 46.00 ea) and raising and lowering them on 2x4 posts behind
> Aquarium.  They are rated at 200 watts florecent/ equiv. to 500 watts normal
> lighting and Co. says they have a 90 % full sun equiv.
> Gabby
>
>
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>
>
>
>
> I wrestled with reality for 40 years,  and finially Won !
>
>
>  ________________________________
> Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search.
>

----- Original Message -----

From: BRiaN Forsythe

To: anubiasdesign@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Sunday, March 09, 2008 9:43 PM

Subject: Re: [anubiasdesign] Re: Info on lighting for 150g planted tank

Shop lights with electronic ballasts at Home Depot: $8.50.
Daylight T8s at Home Depot: $3.50 ($7 for 2)
Fulham Workhorse ballasts to overdrive them if necessary: $20 per shop
light (for each 2xT8)
Growing plants without expensive lighting: priceless

I'd use shop lights, see what you can grow, then overdrive them with
Fulham Workhorse ballasts if you don't think you're getting enough
output (a distinct possibility since the tank is so deep).

On Sun, Mar 9, 2008 at 2:48 PM, Jeffrey Cummings <jlc3835@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
> I'm new to this group ... but a "low tech" kind of guy. I would get some
> low - reflection (anti glare glass (mine came from a picture framer cheap as
> odd sized) and use some high-watage florecent lighting for plants. I am
> experimenting w/ Regents Florecent outdoor security lights (Lowe's or Home
> Depot approx 46.00 ea) and raising and lowering them on 2x4 posts behind
> Aquarium. They are rated at 200 watts florecent/ equiv. to 500 watts normal
> lighting and Co. says they have a 90 % full sun equiv.
> Gabby
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> I wrestled with reality for 40 years, and finially Won !
>
>
> ________________________________
> Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search.
>

two critters Ild love to find are some old friends of mine from when was a kid
they made great pets and Im building a tank to house them now
Im looking for the all elusive fire eel
and the ever friendly black knife fish
Mastacembelus erythrotaenia
and
Apteronotus albifrons

Ive been out of aquariums for a while
and moved so I dont know any quality sources for my fish
I build tanks fairly regularly
but havnt built one up for myself in ages

wondering if you can help me locate these two

I agree entirely, but it sounded like he was looking for cheap and
easy.  I assumed the 4' shop would be staggerred.  A shoplight painted
black doesn't look bad at all.  If he already intends to use a canopy,
it wouldn't be that much DIY.

That said, we're in violent agreement.  I'd go with linear T5s.
(Which I believe is what your 39Ws are?)

On Sun, Mar 9, 2008 at 10:06 PM, David Williams <ingg1196@...> wrote:
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> 150 gal is 6', those shop lights are 4'.
>
> By the time you buy the 3' models, may as well have bought aquarium
> fixtures. :) Alternatively, you can spend several hours cutting them down,
> refitting them - but everyone's time is worth money, and it quickly becomes
> not worth it. Plus... well... shop lights are ugly as sin! They just don't
> belong on a display tank - unless you are building a canopy for them, which
> ends up being as much or more than just buying fixtures anyhow.
>
> The other consideration is power useage - shop lights get very little of
> their potential actually into an aquarium. Real fixtures are built - to
> varying degrees of success, granted - to do just that.
>
> I've learned this lesson through trial and error. You can spend untold hours
> and more than you orgininally thought trying to DIY it, or you can spend a
> few more dollars and save yourself all the time and effort, while getting
> less of a power bill and improved output. I've done the shop light thing,
> I've done the pig tails. I've gone through refitting them all with mylar
> reflective material trying to improve them. Then I bought real fixtures, and
> kicked myself repeatedly for all the time and money I wasted trying to
> replicate real fixtures. Not only did I never get there, but I was using way
> more energy than I needed to.
>
> You can set this tank in 4x39 High output T5 fixtures for all of $130, bulbs
> included. That would be a perfect low light setup, and it is 2 3' fixtures.
> 8x39, which would put it into a mid light set (high light with great
> fixtures, but we are talking entry line here) for $260.
>
> I have a 180g running high end T5 fixtures, and it is shaping up into a high
> light tank - using 8x39 T5's. 1.7 wpg. You can't begin to replicate it with
> shop lights or pig tails, even if you use 500 watts vs. the 312 I'm using. I
> made Pogostemon Stellata color up purple 12" from the water surface in that
> 180g. Now, granted, these are extremely expensive fixtures and not for
> everybody, but they do illustrate the point.
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: BRiaN Forsythe
> To: anubiasdesign@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Sunday, March 09, 2008 9:43 PM
> Subject: Re: [anubiasdesign] Re: Info on lighting for 150g planted tank
>
>
>
>
> Shop lights with electronic ballasts at Home Depot: $8.50.
> Daylight T8s at Home Depot: $3.50 ($7 for 2)
> Fulham Workhorse ballasts to overdrive them if necessary: $20 per shop
> light (for each 2xT8)
> Growing plants without expensive lighting: priceless
>
> I'd use shop lights, see what you can grow, then overdrive them with
> Fulham Workhorse ballasts if you don't think you're getting enough
> output (a distinct possibility since the tank is so deep).
>
> On Sun, Mar 9, 2008 at 2:48 PM, Jeffrey Cummings <jlc3835@...> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > I'm new to this group ... but a "low tech" kind of guy. I would get some
> > low - reflection (anti glare glass (mine came from a picture framer cheap
> as
> > odd sized) and use some high-watage florecent lighting for plants. I am
> > experimenting w/ Regents Florecent outdoor security lights (Lowe's or Home
> > Depot approx 46.00 ea) and raising and lowering them on 2x4 posts behind
> > Aquarium. They are rated at 200 watts florecent/ equiv. to 500 watts
> normal
> > lighting and Co. says they have a 90 % full sun equiv.
> > Gabby
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > I wrestled with reality for 40 years, and finially Won !
> >
> >
> > ________________________________
> > Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search.
> >
>

----- Original Message -----

From: BRiaN Forsythe

To: anubiasdesign@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Sunday, March 09, 2008 11:21 PM

Subject: Re: [anubiasdesign] Re: Info on lighting for 150g planted tank

I agree entirely, but it sounded like he was looking for cheap and
easy. I assumed the 4' shop would be staggerred. A shoplight painted
black doesn't look bad at all. If he already intends to use a canopy,
it wouldn't be that much DIY.

That said, we're in violent agreement. I'd go with linear T5s.
(Which I believe is what your 39Ws are?)

On Sun, Mar 9, 2008 at 10:06 PM, David Williams <ingg1196@adelphia.net> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> 150 gal is 6', those shop lights are 4'.
>
> By the time you buy the 3' models, may as well have bought aquarium
> fixtures. :) Alternatively, you can spend several hours cutting them down,
> refitting them - but everyone's time is worth money, and it quickly becomes
> not worth it. Plus... well... shop lights are ugly as sin! They just don't
> belong on a display tank - unless you are building a canopy for them, which
> ends up being as much or more than just buying fixtures anyhow.
>
> The other consideration is power useage - shop lights get very little of
> their potential actually into an aquarium. Real fixtures are built - to
> varying degrees of success, granted - to do just that.
>
> I've learned this lesson through trial and error. You can spend untold hours
> and more than you orgininally thought trying to DIY it, or you can spend a
> few more dollars and save yourself all the time and effort, while getting
> less of a power bill and improved output. I've done the shop light thing,
> I've done the pig tails. I've gone through refitting them all with mylar
> reflective material trying to improve them. Then I bought real fixtures, and
> kicked myself repeatedly for all the time and money I wasted trying to
> replicate real fixtures. Not only did I never get there, but I was using way
> more energy than I needed to.
>
> You can set this tank in 4x39 High output T5 fixtures for all of $130, bulbs
> included. That would be a perfect low light setup, and it is 2 3' fixtures.
> 8x39, which would put it into a mid light set (high light with great
> fixtures, but we are talking entry line here) for $260.
>
> I have a 180g running high end T5 fixtures, and it is shaping up into a high
> light tank - using 8x39 T5's. 1.7 wpg. You can't begin to replicate it with
> shop lights or pig tails, even if you use 500 watts vs. the 312 I'm using. I
> made Pogostemon Stellata color up purple 12" from the water surface in that
> 180g. Now, granted, these are extremely expensive fixtures and not for
> everybody, but they do illustrate the point.
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: BRiaN Forsythe
> To: anubiasdesign@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Sunday, March 09, 2008 9:43 PM
> Subject: Re: [anubiasdesign] Re: Info on lighting for 150g planted tank
>
>
>
>
> Shop lights with electronic ballasts at Home Depot: $8.50.
> Daylight T8s at Home Depot: $3.50 ($7 for 2)
> Fulham Workhorse ballasts to overdrive them if necessary: $20 per shop
> light (for each 2xT8)
> Growing plants without expensive lighting: priceless
>
> I'd use shop lights, see what you can grow, then overdrive them with
> Fulham Workhorse ballasts if you don't think you're getting enough
> output (a distinct possibility since the tank is so deep).
>
> On Sun, Mar 9, 2008 at 2:48 PM, Jeffrey Cummings <jlc3835@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > I'm new to this group ... but a "low tech" kind of guy. I would get some
> > low - reflection (anti glare glass (mine came from a picture framer cheap
> as
> > odd sized) and use some high-watage florecent lighting for plants. I am
> > experimenting w/ Regents Florecent outdoor security lights (Lowe's or Home
> > Depot approx 46.00 ea) and raising and lowering them on 2x4 posts behind
> > Aquarium. They are rated at 200 watts florecent/ equiv. to 500 watts
> normal
> > lighting and Co. says they have a 90 % full sun equiv.
> > Gabby
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > I wrestled with reality for 40 years, and finially Won !
> >
> >
> > ________________________________
> > Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search.
> >
>

 

 

When I set up my 180g, I bought TEK fixtures. Soooo expensive, but the results are pretty much staggering. Never seen anything remotely like them. I'll post a pic at setup, and 6 weeks later, of that 180g if Mark doesn't mind.

 

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----- Original Message -----

From: Anubias Design

To: anubiasdesign@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Monday, March 10, 2008 1:08 AM

Subject: Re: [anubiasdesign] Re: Info on lighting for 150g planted tank

David,

Go ahead and post it.  I'm going to set up a photo album titled Members Tanks.  Put it in there.  Anyone else who wants to post tank pics there, feel free.

Mark

David Williams <ingg1196@adelphia.net> wrote:

 

 

When I set up my 180g, I bought TEK fixtures. Soooo expensive, but the results are pretty much staggering. Never seen anything remotely like them. I'll post a pic at setup, and 6 weeks later, of that 180g if Mark doesn't mind.

 

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Mark      are  we doin a yahoo pool ?         Kurt   sooooo  ready to
play         and probably  get mybut   wooped

Mark are we doin a yahoo pool ? Kurt sooooo ready to
play and probably get mybut wooped

My local shop said the black ghost knifes he gets now are farmed,
and if you raise them up together they can live together, unlike
wild ones that constantly fight with their own kind.  Can anybody
here confirm this ??

--- In anubiasdesign@yahoogroups.com, Anubias Design
<anubiasdesign@...> wrote:
>
> I get these two occasionally.  I can get the black ghost pretty
much anytime but the fire eels are less consistent.  I had some
really nice tiretrack eels a couple of weeks ago, about 7-8" in
length at $15 each.
>   Mark
>
> bostonpyramidbuilder <maxtanksgalleries@...> wrote:
>           two critters Ild love to find are some old friends of
mine from when was a kid
> they made great pets and Im building a tank to house them now
> Im looking for the all elusive fire eel
> and the ever friendly black knife fish
> Mastacembelus erythrotaenia
> and
> Apteronotus albifrons
>
> Ive been out of aquariums for a while
> and moved so I dont know any quality sources for my fish
> I build tanks fairly regularly
> but havnt built one up for myself in ages
>
> wondering if you can help me locate these two
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ---------------------------------
> Never miss a thing.   Make Yahoo your homepage.
>

My local shop said the black ghost knifes he gets now are farmed,
and if you raise them up together they can live together, unlike
wild ones that constantly fight with their own kind. Can anybody
here confirm this ??

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