... Tunnel ... he ... attack ... placed ... little ... idea ... did ... Dana had no way of knowing what Grant intended, nor what Thomas intended, unless they...
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bobaldrich2001
Aug 2, 2002 3:14 pm
... <snip> ... center. ... JB, I recognize that Grant considered Sherman his tried and true lieutenant, but I wonder whether the lesser role assigned to Thomas...
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bjer50010
Aug 2, 2002 3:45 pm
... snips ... lacked ... 12th ... mobile ... Bob, Thanks for the reply. I didn't intend for my final statement to be quite so strongly worded. Your points...
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wh_keene
Aug 2, 2002 4:18 pm
Bob, I have a couple issues with your comments. "Grant's memoirs present the whole thing as envisioned by Grant the night before, based on his expectation that...
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bobaldrich2001
Aug 2, 2002 5:25 pm
Will, You're right! My thinking was that (1) the "orders" he "began to give" would have been in writing, and (2) even if the orders could be oral, Grant had...
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bobaldrich2001
Aug 2, 2002 5:27 pm
What if Grant had stayed with the Western armies in 1864? Would he have captured Atlanta sooner or later than Sherman did? Bob Aldrich...
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wh_keene
Aug 2, 2002 5:30 pm
Bob, That's exactly the way I see it. ~Will ... be ... given ... move ... also ... plan ... apply ... I ... probable, ... B ... the ... while ... to ... posit ...
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dmsmith001
Aug 2, 2002 5:42 pm
Sooner. But it's a matter of being relative. Dave...
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Robert(Bob) Taubman
stafftca
Aug 2, 2002 5:48 pm
Are you saying sooner because you are related to Grant ;-) I agree though, Grant sooner. Bob "I would have thought Dave was related to Longstreet" Taubman ... ...
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Jfepperson@...
jfe13
Aug 2, 2002 5:53 pm
... Not only would he have captured it sooner (IMO), but the opposing army would have been in much worse shape. JFE...
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aot1952
Aug 2, 2002 6:05 pm
Not sure exactly what I think on this possibility but it certainly raises two interesting questions in my mind. How would Sherman have performed in the line...
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wh_keene
Aug 2, 2002 6:12 pm
I just don't know what my answer would be to this question. But would love to hear the reasoning others have. Does anyone want to say why they picked Grant? ...
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fishx111@...
Aug 2, 2002 6:29 pm
Question??? Does anyone know how you could send chicken?The can of pickled pears, did they pickle these,or were they canned?a lot of soldiers died from disease...
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carlw4514
Aug 2, 2002 7:15 pm
Who knows? Grant was at his best when there was a nut to crack, so in this particular campaign, he wouldn't necessarily have done better than Sherman, IMO. I...
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bobaldrich2001
Aug 2, 2002 7:22 pm
I thought he was related to General Smith. ... Bob Aldrich ... Would he ... http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/...
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WmHiram
Aug 2, 2002 7:26 pm
... pears, did ... disease ... salted ... James, there was a home canning process in which a whole cooked chicken could be put up in a metal can (rather than a...
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wh_keene
Aug 2, 2002 8:06 pm
... It was probably named for Clairborne Fox Jackson...
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dmsmith001
Aug 2, 2002 8:20 pm
... Of course not. Mostly German in my heritage ... ... Sooner? Okie? Related, perhaps, to Brian Hampton? ... No, that would be Brian ... Dave Dave Smith ...
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ACES_DUGOUT
acesdugout
Aug 2, 2002 8:23 pm
Hi Y'all The tinned foods were available from kippers to olives in pickled or regular. and I would agree that food poising probably played a part. The Boys in...
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dmsmith001
Aug 2, 2002 8:24 pm
NO, that was the "other" General Smith. :-) Dave...
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carlw4514
Aug 2, 2002 9:05 pm
Hadn't heard that the canning process went back that far. Canning meat as opposed to vegetables is always trickier. A friend had a funny story about that: he...
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fishx111@...
Aug 2, 2002 9:25 pm
BILLIE: I didnt know back in that time frame they could can such things as meat safely.I thought they preserved through salting and drying such as jerky.I have...
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WmHiram
Aug 2, 2002 9:29 pm
Here are a couple of websites which talk about the history of canned foods. The second has pictures of original cans, albeit not from the American Civil War. ...
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WmHiram
Aug 2, 2002 9:34 pm
James, like I say, I need to check my period cookbooks when I get home. I'm sure I read about the process in there. And I agree, home canning meat is very...
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fishx111@...
Aug 2, 2002 9:39 pm
CARL : From the responses it sounds like it did.I have helped my mom can, in Mason jars.I know of people who on a group effort had their items tinned.We never ...
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carlw4514
Aug 2, 2002 10:05 pm
From what little canning I have done myself, the danger the pressure cooker would explode comes from letting the jars reach the boiling point and then taking...
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hartshje
Aug 2, 2002 10:53 pm
... IMO, Grant would get there sooner, but because I would assume he'd use the same "hit 'em, make 'em bleed, hit 'em again" strategy. Johnston was so averse...
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fishx111@...
Aug 2, 2002 11:40 pm
Billie wrote ,to paraphrase ,'now that Billie is grown ,Billies children are abused because they have to unload the dishwasher'. My children are out on their...
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josepharose
Aug 3, 2002 5:19 am
J.B., Bob, and Will: Thanks for the discussion. You all seem to have reached a conclusion that there were some oral orders which changed everything, even ...
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basecat1@...
basecat1
Aug 3, 2002 5:39 am
In a message dated 8/3/2002 12:20:15 AM Central Daylight Time, ... IIRC, This is the same Joe Hooker who said he had Robert E. Lee right where he wanted him at...
