--- In clubhimara@yahoogroups.com, "Kreshnik Bejko" <kbejko@h...>
wrote:
> Yeah..umm is this union about Himariote inbreeding...cuz y'all are
all
> inbred already.
This is not funny. People can organize as they wish and your insult
may effect other Albanian mountaniuos regions.
Sa lehte te pret shpata o Kreshnik.
Androniqi Kristo (Malo) flet pėr ngjarjen e bujshme tė 7-8 gushtit tė vitit 1971 =================================
Arratisja qė sfidoi diktaturėn e Hoxhės ============================================ Si u larguan katėr vėllezėr dhe dy motra familjarisht nė Greqi ==========================================
Ajo qė sot boton kėto kujtime, nuk ndodhet nė Shqipėri. Androniqi Kristo (Malo), ka shkuar tė ēmallet me vėllezėrit e saj nė Amerikėn e largėt. Me ata vėllezėr, me tė cilėt u nda jo fort pėrzemėrsisht nė gushtin e vitit 1971. ===================================================== Me ata vėllezėr qė arritėn tė largohen nė mėnyrė spektakolare me gjithė anijen e peshkimit,
kapiten i sė cilės ishte njėri prej tė katėr vėllezėrve tė saj. Ngjarja e bujshme kujtohet ende nga banorėt e Vlorės. Kushdo tė tregon se kush ishte organizatori i asaj ikje qė pėshtjelloi politikėn e shtetit tė kaluar. Gjashtė familje u detyruan tė largoheshin nga Shqipėria pėr njė jetė mė tė mirė dhe kėtė nuk do t'ua falnin kurrė. Androniqi Kristo (Malo), sė bashku me bashkėshortin dhe fėmijėt, nuk pranoi tė rrinte me ta dhe tė ndahej nė mėnyrė jo vėllazėrore. Ajo tregon se ēfarė qėndrimi mbajtėn tė vėllezėrit ndaj saj. Ku janė dhe ēfarė bėjnė protagonistėt e asaj ngjarjeje. Ē'pasoja politike pati ajo vetė dhe si e analizon vetė protagonistja jonė ngjarjen e atėhershme, sot pas gati tridhjet vjetėsh. Androniqi nuk e ka aspak tė lehtė tė flasė pėr kėtė histori, e ndėrsa vendos tė flasė qan dhe malli pėr vėllezėrit duket pėrmes lotėve. Himarjotja tregon gjithēka qė ndodhi atė gusht tė vitit 1971.
Cilat ishin rrethanat nė tė cilat
vėllezėrit tuaj arritėn deri nė largimin nga Shqipėria? Pėr tė kuptuar atė ikje ėshtė e domosdoshme tė tė jap disa shpjegime tė tjera. Dua tė theksoj se familja jonė e ndihmoi me sa mundi Luftėn Nacionalēlirimtare. Vėllai ynė i madh, Fotaqi, mori edhe vetė pjesė nė luftė. Nė dhjetor tė vitit 1942, ai ishte anėtar i aktivit tė rinisė komuniste tė fshatit Himarė dhe qė nga gushti i vitit 1943 pjesėtar i Ēetės sė Bregut dhe mė vonė partizan nė Brigadėn e 5-tė Sulmuese. Pėr tė gjithė kėtė kontribut ai gėzon disa dekorata si: atė tė Trimėrisė, tė Ēlirimit, si luftėtar nė Koalicionin e Madh Antifashist etj. Ai njohu nga afėr Zaho Kokėn e Shefqet Peēin, madje, ky i fundit i kushtoi edhe tregimin "Fotaqi i Vogėl", pėr trimėrinė e treguar nė luftimet nė Pėrmet. Fotaqi, pas kthimit nga luftimet nė Jugosllavi u fut nė shkollėn e kadetėve qė mė pas quhej shkolla "Skėnderbej", me ėndrrėn e madhe pėr t'u bėrė oficer. Por fati nuk e deshi qė kjo ėndėrr
tė shkonte nė realitet. Por jo vetėm kaq, por kėtu mori tė krisur dashuria pėr pushtetin e ashtuquajtur popullor, pėr tė cilin ai vetė luftoi deri nė Jugosllavi. Dhe ja si ndodhi. Kishte humbur koburja e Qemal Stafės dhe dikush u bė fajtor. Ky dikushi, nėn torturė deklaroi kot sė koti se koburen ia kishte dhėnė Fotaqit tim. Dhe siē bėheshin ato punė atėherė, ngeli faji te Fotaqi. E dėnuan padrejtėsisht me tre vjet burg, gjatė tė cilėve ai tentoi tė arratisej dhe e ridėnuan edhe 15 vjet tė tjera, pasi u kap nė Kapshticė tė Korēės, duke ikur pėr nė Greqi. Por nė vitin 1949, Halim Xhelua i Dukatit, e ndihmoi tė pėrfitonte nga njė amnisti e atij viti. Doli nga burgu, por "buka e thyer nuk ngjitet mė". Atė pushtet nuk e donte mė dhe mendja i punonte vetėm pėr tė ikur diku ku mendonte se i bėhej mė mirė pėr vete dhe fėmijėt. Fotaqi ka qenė duarartė. Ēfarė i shihte syri ia bėnte dora. Nė vitin 1969 tentoi pėr herė tė dytė tė arratisej. Pėr kėtė
bėri vetė edhe njė gomone dhe e thurėn mirė planin edhe me tė shoqen, Aleksandrėn. Erdhėn nė Himarė, pa ja treguar askujt planin, por nė minutėn e fundit, nuk e realizuan dot atė qė kishin menduar dhe pėr tė mos u zbuluar e dogjėn fare gomonen qė kishin pėrgatitur. Por kėtė radhė mendoi tė fuste nė valle edhe tė vėllezėrit, me tė cilėt do ta kishte mė tė lehtė tė realizonte planin. Nė fillim iu hap Pandeliut qė atė vit, e kishte me shkollė nė Tiranė. Nė fillim si larg e larg, kur e pa se edhe i vėllai pėrputhej nė shumė gjėra me tė, direkt e nė temė. Pasi e poqėn bashkė ju desh patjetėr edhe Vasili, sepse tek ai shikonin mundėsinė e realizimit.
Pėrse mendon se mund ta realizonin planin me Vasilin? Tė gjithė vėllezėrit e mi gėzonin goxha reputacion dhe goxha detyra. Edhe Fotaqi nuk ishte se i mungonte buka. Madje, dua tė them se ai punonte aq shumė sa ia kishin lakminė tė gjithė pėr tė mirat qė gėzonte. Jo vetėm kaq, por ai ndihmonte
edhe prindėrit tanė nė Himarė. Vasili ishte kapiten anijeje nė portin e Vlorės, por edhe sekretar partie. Edhe Pandeliu ishte sekretar i pushtetit nė Himarė, kurse Jani, pėrveēse punonte nė uzinėn e atėhershme "Enver" ishte edhe gjyqtar futbolli. Por duke parė se zhvillmet nė Shqipėri ishin ku e ku larg atyre qė ata ėndėrronin, morėn kėtė vendim. Vasili, me gjithė atė reputacion qė kishte, nuk pranoi menjėherė. Madje, i kėrcėnoi edhe vėllezėrit qė tė hiqnin dorė se ndryshe vetė do t'i raportonte tek organet e pushtetit. Por Fotaqi dhe Pandeliu pak nga pak ja mbushėn mendjen, se e mira e tyre dhe e gjithė fisit do tė ishte diku tjetėr. Dhe Vasili, midis shqetėsimeve, asaj qė po jetonte dhe asaj qė mendonte u bashkua me tė vėllezėrit.
Si rrodhėn ngjarjet? Tė tre vėllezėrit biseduan dhe vendosėn se koha mė e pėrshtatshme pėr tė ikur ishte gushti i atij viti, d.m.th i vitit 1971. Mė 1 gusht, atėherė bėhej festė nė Himarė dhe ata mendonin
se nė rrėmujėn e saj do tė pėrfitonin mė lehtė. Ata e porositėn Vasilin qė tė nxirrte njė leje pėr tė marrė me kėtė rast edhe njerėzit e tjerė tė familjes pėr t'i ēuar nė festė nė Himarė. Duke pasur gjithė ato pozita, Vasili nuk a pati tė vėshtirė ta bėnte kėtė gjė. Kėshtu qė nė datėn 31 korrik tė vitit 1971, ne u mblodhėm tė gjithė nė Vlorė dhe hipėm me gjithė kalamajtė nė anijen e Vasilit pėr tė ikur nė Himarė. E pėrsėris, pėr tė ikur nė Himarė, nė festė se planin e arratisjes e dinin veē Fotaqi, Vasili, Pandeliu dhe Aleksandra me fėmijėt e saj. Ne tė tjerėt sė bashku me fėmijėt tanė me tė vėrtetė po gėzonim se do shkonim nė festė.
Nuk ikėm dot, sepse kur anija jonė po bėhej gati tė nisej nga Porti i Vlorės, se kush dha urdhėr qė bashkė me ne tė vinin edhe nja dhjetė ushtarė tė gardės, qė duheshin pėr tė ruajtur udhėheqjen qė do tė vinte nė festėn e Himarės. Ardhja e tyre i prishi tė gjitha planet e thurura, sepse nė anije ishin
edhe 6 - 7 marinarė dhe nuk ishte e lehtė tė manovroje me kaq shumė njerėz kundėr. Atyre nuk mund t'u thuhej hapur pėr planin e arratisjes, sepse ishte e sigurt qė ata nuk do tė pranonin. Dhe po ashtu, vėllezėrit e mi kishin menduar qė asgjė tė mos bėhej pėrmes dhunės apo vrasjes sė askujt. Duke pasur parasysh tė gjitha kėto, ata e anulluan planin, por vetėm pėr atė ditė dhe menduan se si ta realizonin njė ditė tjetėr.
Ē'ndodhi mė pas? Gjatė gjithė javės kemi bėrė plazh nė Himarė, pa e ditur se javėn tjetėr do tė iknim pėr nė Greqi. Tė shtunėn tjetėr, pra mė 7 gusht, Vasili kishte marrė pėrsėri leje pėr tė na sjellė me tė njėjtėn anije nga Himara nė Vlorė. Vėllezėrit ia mbushėn mendjen edhe prindėrve tanė, Thomait dhe Aleksandrės, qė tė vinin e tė rrinin ca ditė nė Tiranė dhe ata pranuan. Kėshtu mė datėn 7 Gusht 1971, rreth orės 4 mbasdite, 34 vetė i hipėn anijes sė peshkimit "De Rada" kapiten i sė cilės ishte vėllai im, Vasil Malo,
dhe u nisėm drejt Vlorės. Nuk e dinin tė gjithė planin e arratisjes, pėrjashtuar 4 - 5 vetė, kėshtu qė tė tjerėt e dinin se po vinim nė Vlorė. Sa dolėm nga Himara u hodhėn edhe rrjetat e peshkimit dhe Vasili na tha: "Jemi qė jemi zėmė edhe ndonjė peshk pėr tė realizuar planin".
Po marinarė kishte nė anije? Ishin 6 marinarė, midis tė
Faqe 15 - Speciale
arratisja e vitit 1971 historia
Jeta pas arratisjes e familjes Malo. Nga Himara nė Greqi e mė pas nė Amerikė
"Kur u ndava, nuk i takova vėllezėrit"
U kthye nė Vlorė pėr tė vuajtur persekutimin e sistemit
cilėve edhe njėri kunat i imi. Por edhe ata si tė tė tjerėt as qė e dinin se ēfarė ishte thurur nė mendjen e Fotaqit, Vasilit dhe Pandeliut. Ata i bindeshin urdhrave tė kapitenit dhe kėtė udhėtim e quanin diēka tė zakonshme. Nė fakt, qė nė nisje pati ca vonesa qė nuk binin nė sy, por qė ishin nė planin e organizatorėve. Ata
kishin llogaritur qė nata t'i zinte rrugės, duke ardhur pėr nė Vlorė se kėshtu do ta kishin mė tė lehtė pėr tė realizuar atė qė mendonin. Duke iu afruar Sazanit, ata akoma nuk kishin vendosur se ku do tė shkonin, nė Itali apo Greqi. Pėr tė humbur gjurmėt, Vasili raportoi me radio se do tė vonoheshin pak ngaqė kishin rėnė nė peshk tė madh dhe pėr tė nesėrmen tė bėheshin gati shumė makina pėr tė marrė gjithė atė peshk. Kjo u bė edhe pėr t'u maskuar nga pikat e kufirit qė ishin atėherė nėpėr bregdetin tonė. Qėlloi qė filloi edhe njė furtunė e vogėl dhe marinarėve ju dha njė tip koktej qė ja prishėn shumė shpejt mendjen dhe vėllezėrit e mi, nuk e patėn tė vėshtirė t'i merrnin dhe t'i fusnin nėpėr gabina. Kėtu i mbyllėn me ēelėsa qė i kishin pėrgatitur mė parė, pėr ēdo tė papritur. Ne tė tjerėt ia kishim futur gjumit.
Kur e mėsuat atė qė po ndodhte? Tė nesėrmen, d.m.th mė datėn 8 gusht, kur kishim hyrė nė ujėrat territoriale tė Greqisė.
Se mesa morėm vesh ne, midis Shqipėrisė dhe Greqisė nuk paska ujėra ndėrkombėtare siē ka me Italinė. Fotaqi na shpjegoi se ē'po ndodhte dhe kush ishte plani.
Si reaguat? Padyshim qė reaguam tė revoltuar. Sidomos, unė dhe im shoq. Sepse na erdhi krejt e papritur kjo qė po ndodhte. Sepse e quanim tė turpshme pėr tė mos thėnė tė pamenduar dhe tepėr tė ulėt tė tradhtonim atdheun. Por edhe sepse mendonim pak mė thellė: mirė tė gjithė Malajt ishin nė anije dhe do tė rrinin bashkė po ē'do tė ndodhte me njerėzit e fisit tė tim shoqi, Taqi Kristo. Sepse duhet kujtuar se nė kėto raste ndėshkimi ishte shumė i madh deri edhe te kushėrinjtė. Vėllėzėrit e tim shoqi kishin detyra tė rėndėsishme nė shtetin e atėhershėm. Njėri prej tyre ishte komandant nėndetėseje, tjetri ishte pėrgjegjės i shėndetėsisė sė gjithė ushtrisė. Ē'do tė bėhej me ta dhe fėmijėt e tyre? Po ishim nė mes tė detit dhe tė pafuqishėm pėr tė kundėrvepruar, kėshtu qė unė sė bashku
me burrin dhe fėmijėt, por edhe kunatat e tjera e fėmijėt e tyre vetėm sa bėrtisnim dhe ulurinim kot sė koti. Pas gati 16 orėsh udhėtim ne pamė se po i afroheshim njė ishulli grek.
Si u ndatė me vėllezėrit tuaj? Nė gjykimin e atėhershėm u ndava si njė patriote e madhe, nuk u dhashė as dorėn dhe jo mė tė takohesha dhe tė pėrqafohesha me ta. U putha dhe u pėrqafova vetėm me nėnėn time, e cila dėshironte tė kthehej sė bashku me ne. Por pėrfundimisht edhe ajo iku me tė tjerėt e fisit tonė. Nuk kam aspak turp tė them, se nuk jam ndarė siē duhej tė ndahesha. Por mos harro se gjykimet bėhen edhe sipas kohės.
Ē'bėnė mė tej vėllezėrit e tu dhe familjet e tyre? Pėr gati njė vit ata qėndruan nė Greqi. Fillimisht qėndruan si tė gjithė refugjatėt e tjerė, nė njė kamp diku pranė Janinės. Ashtu i kishte rregullat shteti grek. Pasi u bindėn se arratisja e atyre katėr familjeve ishte bėrė thjesht pėr njė jetė mė tė mirė ekonomike dhe mė tė lirė
nė kuptimin e plotė tė fjalės, ata u shpėrngulėn tė gjithė nė Athinė. Edhe aty iu nėnshtruan hetimit, sipas rregullave tė shtetit grek dhe kur u bindėn pėrsėri pėr qėllimin e arratisjes sė tyre, u sistemuan tė gjithė nėpėr shtėpi normale. Pastaj u gjetėn edhe punė sipas zanateve qė kishin. Fėmijėt u regjistruan tė gjithė nėpėr shkolla sipas moshave. Mirėpo qėllimi i arratisjes sė tyre, nuk ishte thjesht vajtja nė njė shtet tjetėr dhe tė ushqyerit me bukė, sepse kjo atyre nuk u mungonte as nė Shqipėri. Promotori i tė gjithė kėsaj historie ishte Fotaqi. Edhe nė Greqi ai nuk ndenji rehat, nė kuptimin e mirė tė fjalės. Pasi i siguroi tė gjithė ata qė mori me vete, ai mendonte pėr njė tė mirė mė tė madhe. Sepse ishte mirė Greqia nė krahasim me Shqipėrinė, por kishte edhe shumė mė mirė se Greqia. Pikėrisht pėr kėtė qėllim, katėr muaj pas arritjes nė Greqi, Fotaqi ndėrmori njė udhėtim njohjeje nėpėr shtete tė ndryshme tė Evropės. Shkoi nė Gjermani,
pastaj nė Hollandė, mė tej nė Itali dhe u kthye nė Greqi. Pikėrisht ato qė pa aty, i mbushėn atij mendjen pėr tė ikur mė tej. Dhe ėndėrr kishte Amerikėn. E dinte dhe e kishte kuptuar se hapat nė Amerikė hidhen ngadalė, por tė sigurtė. Kur vuri pak tė ardhura mė vete kėrkoi njė mundėsi tjetėr. Pas njė studimi qė i bėri vendit dhe ligjeve fiskale qė ishin atje, vendosi tė ngulej nė njė ishull tė Majamit, nė Killargo.
Me ēfarė u mor? Mė lekėt qė kishte grumbulluar deri atėherė bleu njė piceri tė vogėl. Me punėn dhe pėrpjekjet e tij dhe tė sė shoqes, Aleksandrės, pėr tė cilėn dua tė them se asnjėherė nuk ia prishi qejfin tim vėllai, sepse e dinte se ēfarė burri kishte, ai atė piceri tė vogėl e bėri tė vetme nė atė ishull. Kur e pa se i eci puna, ai hapi edhe njė piceri tjetėr nė njė ishull pranė dhe ia la sė bijės, Leonorės, e cila nuk i la gjė mangut tė atit nga vullneti dhe kėmbėngulja.
Po sot, kush ėshtė Fotaq Malo? Njė njeri i
nderuar dhe i respektuar jo vetėm nga gruaja, fėmijėt dhe nipėrit e mbesat e shumta, por edhe nga shokė e miq tė shumtė. Me tė ardhurat qė ka siguruar ka blerė njė shtėpi nė Himarė, po ngre nga themelet pėr shtėpinė e prindėrve, ka njė shtėpi nė Tiranė dhe njė vilė nė Athinė. Tė gjitha kėto i ka pėr pushime, sepse atdhe tė tanishėm ka Amerikėn, ku ka investuar tė gjithė kapitalin qė vuri me punė. U qėndron mbi kokė fėmijėve qė kanė secili biznesin e vet dhe ēlodhet me nipėrit dhe mbesat e shumta dhe u tregon edhe historitė e Himarės sonė. Ai ėshtė edhe politikan dhe ka takuar direkt edhe presidentin Ronald Regan nė Shtėpinė e Bardhė. Por nuk e ka harruar edhe Himarėn qė e lindi dhe e rriti. Modestisht, por ka investuar edhe nė infrastrukturėn e saj qė edhe bashkėqytetarėt e tij tė rrojnė mirė e mė mirė. Pėr tė gjitha kėto, ai ka marrė uratėn e shokėve dhe tė tė njohurve tanė, por edhe tė pushtetit lokal tė Himarės.
Po me familjen tuaj
dhe marinarėt ēfarė u bė? Edhe neve na u afrua qėndrimi nga autoritetet nė Greqi, por siē ju thashė askush nga ne nuk pranoi tė qėndronte. Kėshtu qė unė sė bashku me tim shoq, Taqi Kristo, dhe tre fėmijėt dhe tė gjithė marinarėt u kthyem nė Vlorė. Kthimi ynė ishte i vetėdijshėm dhe nė ato momente pa as mė tė voglin pishman. Dua t'ju kujtoj se arratisja kishte bėrė bujė tė madhe. Nėpėr ndėrmarrje dhe institucione kishin filluar analizat e ndryshme pėr tė gjetur shkaqet qė ēuan nė kėtė arratisje. Sepse nuk bėhej fjalė pėr njė arratisje tė zakonshme, por pėr njė arratisje masive dhe me mjetet e vetė flotės shqiptare. Bėhej fjalė pėr arratisjen e njė kapiteni anijeje qė ishte edhe anėtar i Pleniumit tė Partisė sė rrethit dhe qė ishte propozuar edhe pėr "Hero i Punės Socialiste". Bėhej fjalė pėr arratisjen e njė pushtetari tė Himarės dhe jo tė njė fshati apo qyteti dosido. Nuk bėhej fjalė pėr arratisjen e njė njeriu tė vetėm, por e katėr
familjeve, plot 30 vetėve. Bėhej fjalė pėr njė arratisje qė u trumbetua me tė madhe dhe menjėherė nga tė gjitha stacionet televizive tė botės mbarė. Ishte njė arratisje qė bėri t'i thėrriste kokės vetė udhėheqja e Partisė. Por, pėr hir tė sė vėrtetės, dua t'ju them se torturat tona nuk ishin ato qė mund tė mendojė dikush. Po edhe pa u lagur nuk kaluam. Mua mė hoqėn nga puna qė kisha mė parė, nė fabrikėn e konservimit tė peshkut. Nuk ma thanė drejtpėrdrejt, por gjithēka ishte e qartė. Nuk mund tė punonte nė konservim motra e tradhtarve, sepse mund tė hidhte helm nė konserva dhe mund tė helmonte popullin. Mė ēuan nė njė punė 1 orė e gjysmė larg ku duhet tė punoja me tri turne. Fėmijėt e mi i shikonin si nipėr tė tradhtarve nė lagje e kudo. Persekutim ishte fakti qė edhe pse djali im ishte i shkėlqyeri nė mėsime, nuk i dhanė tė drejtėn e shkollimit pėr nė universitet. Po jo vetėm atij, por asnjė prej fėmijėve tė mi, nuk pati mundėsinė tė
vazhdonte shkollėn e lartė.
Androniqi Kristo (Malo) flet pėr ngjarjen e bujshme tė 7-8 gushtit tė vitit 1971 =================================
Arratisja qė sfidoi diktaturėn e Hoxhės ============================================ Si u larguan katėr vėllezėr dhe dy motra familjarisht nė Greqi ==========================================
Ajo qė sot boton kėto kujtime, nuk ndodhet nė Shqipėri. Androniqi Kristo (Malo), ka shkuar tė ēmallet me vėllezėrit e saj nė Amerikėn e largėt. Me ata vėllezėr, me tė cilėt u nda jo fort pėrzemėrsisht nė gushtin e vitit 1971. ===================================================== Me ata vėllezėr qė arritėn tė largohen nė mėnyrė spektakolare me gjithė anijen e peshkimit,
kapiten i sė cilės ishte njėri prej tė katėr vėllezėrve tė saj. Ngjarja e bujshme kujtohet ende nga banorėt e Vlorės. Kushdo tė tregon se kush ishte organizatori i asaj ikje qė pėshtjelloi politikėn e shtetit tė kaluar. Gjashtė familje u detyruan tė largoheshin nga Shqipėria pėr njė jetė mė tė mirė dhe kėtė nuk do t'ua falnin kurrė. Androniqi Kristo (Malo), sė bashku me bashkėshortin dhe fėmijėt, nuk pranoi tė rrinte me ta dhe tė ndahej nė mėnyrė jo vėllazėrore. Ajo tregon se ēfarė qėndrimi mbajtėn tė vėllezėrit ndaj saj. Ku janė dhe ēfarė bėjnė protagonistėt e asaj ngjarjeje. Ē'pasoja politike pati ajo vetė dhe si e analizon vetė protagonistja jonė ngjarjen e atėhershme, sot pas gati tridhjet vjetėsh. Androniqi nuk e ka aspak tė lehtė tė flasė pėr kėtė histori, e ndėrsa vendos tė flasė qan dhe malli pėr vėllezėrit duket pėrmes lotėve. Himarjotja tregon gjithēka qė ndodhi atė gusht tė vitit 1971.
Cilat ishin rrethanat nė tė cilat
vėllezėrit tuaj arritėn deri nė largimin nga Shqipėria? Pėr tė kuptuar atė ikje ėshtė e domosdoshme tė tė jap disa shpjegime tė tjera. Dua tė theksoj se familja jonė e ndihmoi me sa mundi Luftėn Nacionalēlirimtare. Vėllai ynė i madh, Fotaqi, mori edhe vetė pjesė nė luftė. Nė dhjetor tė vitit 1942, ai ishte anėtar i aktivit tė rinisė komuniste tė fshatit Himarė dhe qė nga gushti i vitit 1943 pjesėtar i Ēetės sė Bregut dhe mė vonė partizan nė Brigadėn e 5-tė Sulmuese. Pėr tė gjithė kėtė kontribut ai gėzon disa dekorata si: atė tė Trimėrisė, tė Ēlirimit, si luftėtar nė Koalicionin e Madh Antifashist etj. Ai njohu nga afėr Zaho Kokėn e Shefqet Peēin, madje, ky i fundit i kushtoi edhe tregimin "Fotaqi i Vogėl", pėr trimėrinė e treguar nė luftimet nė Pėrmet. Fotaqi, pas kthimit nga luftimet nė Jugosllavi u fut nė shkollėn e kadetėve qė mė pas quhej shkolla "Skėnderbej", me ėndrrėn e madhe pėr t'u bėrė oficer. Por fati nuk e deshi qė kjo ėndėrr
tė shkonte nė realitet. Por jo vetėm kaq, por kėtu mori tė krisur dashuria pėr pushtetin e ashtuquajtur popullor, pėr tė cilin ai vetė luftoi deri nė Jugosllavi. Dhe ja si ndodhi. Kishte humbur koburja e Qemal Stafės dhe dikush u bė fajtor. Ky dikushi, nėn torturė deklaroi kot sė koti se koburen ia kishte dhėnė Fotaqit tim. Dhe siē bėheshin ato punė atėherė, ngeli faji te Fotaqi. E dėnuan padrejtėsisht me tre vjet burg, gjatė tė cilėve ai tentoi tė arratisej dhe e ridėnuan edhe 15 vjet tė tjera, pasi u kap nė Kapshticė tė Korēės, duke ikur pėr nė Greqi. Por nė vitin 1949, Halim Xhelua i Dukatit, e ndihmoi tė pėrfitonte nga njė amnisti e atij viti. Doli nga burgu, por "buka e thyer nuk ngjitet mė". Atė pushtet nuk e donte mė dhe mendja i punonte vetėm pėr tė ikur diku ku mendonte se i bėhej mė mirė pėr vete dhe fėmijėt. Fotaqi ka qenė duarartė. Ēfarė i shihte syri ia bėnte dora. Nė vitin 1969 tentoi pėr herė tė dytė tė arratisej. Pėr kėtė
bėri vetė edhe njė gomone dhe e thurėn mirė planin edhe me tė shoqen, Aleksandrėn. Erdhėn nė Himarė, pa ja treguar askujt planin, por nė minutėn e fundit, nuk e realizuan dot atė qė kishin menduar dhe pėr tė mos u zbuluar e dogjėn fare gomonen qė kishin pėrgatitur. Por kėtė radhė mendoi tė fuste nė valle edhe tė vėllezėrit, me tė cilėt do ta kishte mė tė lehtė tė realizonte planin. Nė fillim iu hap Pandeliut qė atė vit, e kishte me shkollė nė Tiranė. Nė fillim si larg e larg, kur e pa se edhe i vėllai pėrputhej nė shumė gjėra me tė, direkt e nė temė. Pasi e poqėn bashkė ju desh patjetėr edhe Vasili, sepse tek ai shikonin mundėsinė e realizimit.
Pėrse mendon se mund ta realizonin planin me Vasilin? Tė gjithė vėllezėrit e mi gėzonin goxha reputacion dhe goxha detyra. Edhe Fotaqi nuk ishte se i mungonte buka. Madje, dua tė them se ai punonte aq shumė sa ia kishin lakminė tė gjithė pėr tė mirat qė gėzonte. Jo vetėm kaq, por ai ndihmonte
edhe prindėrit tanė nė Himarė. Vasili ishte kapiten anijeje nė portin e Vlorės, por edhe sekretar partie. Edhe Pandeliu ishte sekretar i pushtetit nė Himarė, kurse Jani, pėrveēse punonte nė uzinėn e atėhershme "Enver" ishte edhe gjyqtar futbolli. Por duke parė se zhvillmet nė Shqipėri ishin ku e ku larg atyre qė ata ėndėrronin, morėn kėtė vendim. Vasili, me gjithė atė reputacion qė kishte, nuk pranoi menjėherė. Madje, i kėrcėnoi edhe vėllezėrit qė tė hiqnin dorė se ndryshe vetė do t'i raportonte tek organet e pushtetit. Por Fotaqi dhe Pandeliu pak nga pak ja mbushėn mendjen, se e mira e tyre dhe e gjithė fisit do tė ishte diku tjetėr. Dhe Vasili, midis shqetėsimeve, asaj qė po jetonte dhe asaj qė mendonte u bashkua me tė vėllezėrit.
Si rrodhėn ngjarjet? Tė tre vėllezėrit biseduan dhe vendosėn se koha mė e pėrshtatshme pėr tė ikur ishte gushti i atij viti, d.m.th i vitit 1971. Mė 1 gusht, atėherė bėhej festė nė Himarė dhe ata mendonin
se nė rrėmujėn e saj do tė pėrfitonin mė lehtė. Ata e porositėn Vasilin qė tė nxirrte njė leje pėr tė marrė me kėtė rast edhe njerėzit e tjerė tė familjes pėr t'i ēuar nė festė nė Himarė. Duke pasur gjithė ato pozita, Vasili nuk a pati tė vėshtirė ta bėnte kėtė gjė. Kėshtu qė nė datėn 31 korrik tė vitit 1971, ne u mblodhėm tė gjithė nė Vlorė dhe hipėm me gjithė kalamajtė nė anijen e Vasilit pėr tė ikur nė Himarė. E pėrsėris, pėr tė ikur nė Himarė, nė festė se planin e arratisjes e dinin veē Fotaqi, Vasili, Pandeliu dhe Aleksandra me fėmijėt e saj. Ne tė tjerėt sė bashku me fėmijėt tanė me tė vėrtetė po gėzonim se do shkonim nė festė.
Nuk ikėm dot, sepse kur anija jonė po bėhej gati tė nisej nga Porti i Vlorės, se kush dha urdhėr qė bashkė me ne tė vinin edhe nja dhjetė ushtarė tė gardės, qė duheshin pėr tė ruajtur udhėheqjen qė do tė vinte nė festėn e Himarės. Ardhja e tyre i prishi tė gjitha planet e thurura, sepse nė anije ishin
edhe 6 - 7 marinarė dhe nuk ishte e lehtė tė manovroje me kaq shumė njerėz kundėr. Atyre nuk mund t'u thuhej hapur pėr planin e arratisjes, sepse ishte e sigurt qė ata nuk do tė pranonin. Dhe po ashtu, vėllezėrit e mi kishin menduar qė asgjė tė mos bėhej pėrmes dhunės apo vrasjes sė askujt. Duke pasur parasysh tė gjitha kėto, ata e anulluan planin, por vetėm pėr atė ditė dhe menduan se si ta realizonin njė ditė tjetėr.
Ē'ndodhi mė pas? Gjatė gjithė javės kemi bėrė plazh nė Himarė, pa e ditur se javėn tjetėr do tė iknim pėr nė Greqi. Tė shtunėn tjetėr, pra mė 7 gusht, Vasili kishte marrė pėrsėri leje pėr tė na sjellė me tė njėjtėn anije nga Himara nė Vlorė. Vėllezėrit ia mbushėn mendjen edhe prindėrve tanė, Thomait dhe Aleksandrės, qė tė vinin e tė rrinin ca ditė nė Tiranė dhe ata pranuan. Kėshtu mė datėn 7 Gusht 1971, rreth orės 4 mbasdite, 34 vetė i hipėn anijes sė peshkimit "De Rada" kapiten i sė cilės ishte vėllai im, Vasil Malo,
dhe u nisėm drejt Vlorės. Nuk e dinin tė gjithė planin e arratisjes, pėrjashtuar 4 - 5 vetė, kėshtu qė tė tjerėt e dinin se po vinim nė Vlorė. Sa dolėm nga Himara u hodhėn edhe rrjetat e peshkimit dhe Vasili na tha: "Jemi qė jemi zėmė edhe ndonjė peshk pėr tė realizuar planin".
Po marinarė kishte nė anije? Ishin 6 marinarė, midis tė
Faqe 15 - Speciale
arratisja e vitit 1971 historia
Jeta pas arratisjes e familjes Malo. Nga Himara nė Greqi e mė pas nė Amerikė
"Kur u ndava, nuk i takova vėllezėrit"
U kthye nė Vlorė pėr tė vuajtur persekutimin e sistemit
cilėve edhe njėri kunat i imi. Por edhe ata si tė tė tjerėt as qė e dinin se ēfarė ishte thurur nė mendjen e Fotaqit, Vasilit dhe Pandeliut. Ata i bindeshin urdhrave tė kapitenit dhe kėtė udhėtim e quanin diēka tė zakonshme. Nė fakt, qė nė nisje pati ca vonesa qė nuk binin nė sy, por qė ishin nė planin e organizatorėve. Ata
kishin llogaritur qė nata t'i zinte rrugės, duke ardhur pėr nė Vlorė se kėshtu do ta kishin mė tė lehtė pėr tė realizuar atė qė mendonin. Duke iu afruar Sazanit, ata akoma nuk kishin vendosur se ku do tė shkonin, nė Itali apo Greqi. Pėr tė humbur gjurmėt, Vasili raportoi me radio se do tė vonoheshin pak ngaqė kishin rėnė nė peshk tė madh dhe pėr tė nesėrmen tė bėheshin gati shumė makina pėr tė marrė gjithė atė peshk. Kjo u bė edhe pėr t'u maskuar nga pikat e kufirit qė ishin atėherė nėpėr bregdetin tonė. Qėlloi qė filloi edhe njė furtunė e vogėl dhe marinarėve ju dha njė tip koktej qė ja prishėn shumė shpejt mendjen dhe vėllezėrit e mi, nuk e patėn tė vėshtirė t'i merrnin dhe t'i fusnin nėpėr gabina. Kėtu i mbyllėn me ēelėsa qė i kishin pėrgatitur mė parė, pėr ēdo tė papritur. Ne tė tjerėt ia kishim futur gjumit.
Kur e mėsuat atė qė po ndodhte? Tė nesėrmen, d.m.th mė datėn 8 gusht, kur kishim hyrė nė ujėrat territoriale tė Greqisė.
Se mesa morėm vesh ne, midis Shqipėrisė dhe Greqisė nuk paska ujėra ndėrkombėtare siē ka me Italinė. Fotaqi na shpjegoi se ē'po ndodhte dhe kush ishte plani.
Si reaguat? Padyshim qė reaguam tė revoltuar. Sidomos, unė dhe im shoq. Sepse na erdhi krejt e papritur kjo qė po ndodhte. Sepse e quanim tė turpshme pėr tė mos thėnė tė pamenduar dhe tepėr tė ulėt tė tradhtonim atdheun. Por edhe sepse mendonim pak mė thellė: mirė tė gjithė Malajt ishin nė anije dhe do tė rrinin bashkė po ē'do tė ndodhte me njerėzit e fisit tė tim shoqi, Taqi Kristo. Sepse duhet kujtuar se nė kėto raste ndėshkimi ishte shumė i madh deri edhe te kushėrinjtė. Vėllėzėrit e tim shoqi kishin detyra tė rėndėsishme nė shtetin e atėhershėm. Njėri prej tyre ishte komandant nėndetėseje, tjetri ishte pėrgjegjės i shėndetėsisė sė gjithė ushtrisė. Ē'do tė bėhej me ta dhe fėmijėt e tyre? Po ishim nė mes tė detit dhe tė pafuqishėm pėr tė kundėrvepruar, kėshtu qė unė sė bashku
me burrin dhe fėmijėt, por edhe kunatat e tjera e fėmijėt e tyre vetėm sa bėrtisnim dhe ulurinim kot sė koti. Pas gati 16 orėsh udhėtim ne pamė se po i afroheshim njė ishulli grek.
Si u ndatė me vėllezėrit tuaj? Nė gjykimin e atėhershėm u ndava si njė patriote e madhe, nuk u dhashė as dorėn dhe jo mė tė takohesha dhe tė pėrqafohesha me ta. U putha dhe u pėrqafova vetėm me nėnėn time, e cila dėshironte tė kthehej sė bashku me ne. Por pėrfundimisht edhe ajo iku me tė tjerėt e fisit tonė. Nuk kam aspak turp tė them, se nuk jam ndarė siē duhej tė ndahesha. Por mos harro se gjykimet bėhen edhe sipas kohės.
Ē'bėnė mė tej vėllezėrit e tu dhe familjet e tyre? Pėr gati njė vit ata qėndruan nė Greqi. Fillimisht qėndruan si tė gjithė refugjatėt e tjerė, nė njė kamp diku pranė Janinės. Ashtu i kishte rregullat shteti grek. Pasi u bindėn se arratisja e atyre katėr familjeve ishte bėrė thjesht pėr njė jetė mė tė mirė ekonomike dhe mė tė lirė
nė kuptimin e plotė tė fjalės, ata u shpėrngulėn tė gjithė nė Athinė. Edhe aty iu nėnshtruan hetimit, sipas rregullave tė shtetit grek dhe kur u bindėn pėrsėri pėr qėllimin e arratisjes sė tyre, u sistemuan tė gjithė nėpėr shtėpi normale. Pastaj u gjetėn edhe punė sipas zanateve qė kishin. Fėmijėt u regjistruan tė gjithė nėpėr shkolla sipas moshave. Mirėpo qėllimi i arratisjes sė tyre, nuk ishte thjesht vajtja nė njė shtet tjetėr dhe tė ushqyerit me bukė, sepse kjo atyre nuk u mungonte as nė Shqipėri. Promotori i tė gjithė kėsaj historie ishte Fotaqi. Edhe nė Greqi ai nuk ndenji rehat, nė kuptimin e mirė tė fjalės. Pasi i siguroi tė gjithė ata qė mori me vete, ai mendonte pėr njė tė mirė mė tė madhe. Sepse ishte mirė Greqia nė krahasim me Shqipėrinė, por kishte edhe shumė mė mirė se Greqia. Pikėrisht pėr kėtė qėllim, katėr muaj pas arritjes nė Greqi, Fotaqi ndėrmori njė udhėtim njohjeje nėpėr shtete tė ndryshme tė Evropės. Shkoi nė Gjermani,
pastaj nė Hollandė, mė tej nė Itali dhe u kthye nė Greqi. Pikėrisht ato qė pa aty, i mbushėn atij mendjen pėr tė ikur mė tej. Dhe ėndėrr kishte Amerikėn. E dinte dhe e kishte kuptuar se hapat nė Amerikė hidhen ngadalė, por tė sigurtė. Kur vuri pak tė ardhura mė vete kėrkoi njė mundėsi tjetėr. Pas njė studimi qė i bėri vendit dhe ligjeve fiskale qė ishin atje, vendosi tė ngulej nė njė ishull tė Majamit, nė Killargo.
Me ēfarė u mor? Mė lekėt qė kishte grumbulluar deri atėherė bleu njė piceri tė vogėl. Me punėn dhe pėrpjekjet e tij dhe tė sė shoqes, Aleksandrės, pėr tė cilėn dua tė them se asnjėherė nuk ia prishi qejfin tim vėllai, sepse e dinte se ēfarė burri kishte, ai atė piceri tė vogėl e bėri tė vetme nė atė ishull. Kur e pa se i eci puna, ai hapi edhe njė piceri tjetėr nė njė ishull pranė dhe ia la sė bijės, Leonorės, e cila nuk i la gjė mangut tė atit nga vullneti dhe kėmbėngulja.
Po sot, kush ėshtė Fotaq Malo? Njė njeri i
nderuar dhe i respektuar jo vetėm nga gruaja, fėmijėt dhe nipėrit e mbesat e shumta, por edhe nga shokė e miq tė shumtė. Me tė ardhurat qė ka siguruar ka blerė njė shtėpi nė Himarė, po ngre nga themelet pėr shtėpinė e prindėrve, ka njė shtėpi nė Tiranė dhe njė vilė nė Athinė. Tė gjitha kėto i ka pėr pushime, sepse atdhe tė tanishėm ka Amerikėn, ku ka investuar tė gjithė kapitalin qė vuri me punė. U qėndron mbi kokė fėmijėve qė kanė secili biznesin e vet dhe ēlodhet me nipėrit dhe mbesat e shumta dhe u tregon edhe historitė e Himarės sonė. Ai ėshtė edhe politikan dhe ka takuar direkt edhe presidentin Ronald Regan nė Shtėpinė e Bardhė. Por nuk e ka harruar edhe Himarėn qė e lindi dhe e rriti. Modestisht, por ka investuar edhe nė infrastrukturėn e saj qė edhe bashkėqytetarėt e tij tė rrojnė mirė e mė mirė. Pėr tė gjitha kėto, ai ka marrė uratėn e shokėve dhe tė tė njohurve tanė, por edhe tė pushtetit lokal tė Himarės.
Po me familjen tuaj
dhe marinarėt ēfarė u bė? Edhe neve na u afrua qėndrimi nga autoritetet nė Greqi, por siē ju thashė askush nga ne nuk pranoi tė qėndronte. Kėshtu qė unė sė bashku me tim shoq, Taqi Kristo, dhe tre fėmijėt dhe tė gjithė marinarėt u kthyem nė Vlorė. Kthimi ynė ishte i vetėdijshėm dhe nė ato momente pa as mė tė voglin pishman. Dua t'ju kujtoj se arratisja kishte bėrė bujė tė madhe. Nėpėr ndėrmarrje dhe institucione kishin filluar analizat e ndryshme pėr tė gjetur shkaqet qė ēuan nė kėtė arratisje. Sepse nuk bėhej fjalė pėr njė arratisje tė zakonshme, por pėr njė arratisje masive dhe me mjetet e vetė flotės shqiptare. Bėhej fjalė pėr arratisjen e njė kapiteni anijeje qė ishte edhe anėtar i Pleniumit tė Partisė sė rrethit dhe qė ishte propozuar edhe pėr "Hero i Punės Socialiste". Bėhej fjalė pėr arratisjen e njė pushtetari tė Himarės dhe jo tė njė fshati apo qyteti dosido. Nuk bėhej fjalė pėr arratisjen e njė njeriu tė vetėm, por e katėr
familjeve, plot 30 vetėve. Bėhej fjalė pėr njė arratisje qė u trumbetua me tė madhe dhe menjėherė nga tė gjitha stacionet televizive tė botės mbarė. Ishte njė arratisje qė bėri t'i thėrriste kokės vetė udhėheqja e Partisė. Por, pėr hir tė sė vėrtetės, dua t'ju them se torturat tona nuk ishin ato qė mund tė mendojė dikush. Po edhe pa u lagur nuk kaluam. Mua mė hoqėn nga puna qė kisha mė parė, nė fabrikėn e konservimit tė peshkut. Nuk ma thanė drejtpėrdrejt, por gjithēka ishte e qartė. Nuk mund tė punonte nė konservim motra e tradhtarve, sepse mund tė hidhte helm nė konserva dhe mund tė helmonte popullin. Mė ēuan nė njė punė 1 orė e gjysmė larg ku duhet tė punoja me tri turne. Fėmijėt e mi i shikonin si nipėr tė tradhtarve nė lagje e kudo. Persekutim ishte fakti qė edhe pse djali im ishte i shkėlqyeri nė mėsime, nuk i dhanė tė drejtėn e shkollimit pėr nė universitet. Po jo vetėm atij, por asnjė prej fėmijėve tė mi, nuk pati mundėsinė tė
vazhdonte shkollėn e lartė.
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,3-1469503,00.html
February 04, 2005
Church hit by claims of sleaze
From John Carr in Athens
THE Greek Orthodox Church, facing a scandal over alleged bribing of
judges, drug dealing and theft of antiquities, called an emergency
meeting of its Holy Synod yesterday as Archbishop Christodoulos, the
head of the Church, promised to stamp out corruption.
One bishop, Metropolitan Panteleimon of Attica, is to appear before
the synod today to explain claims, aired on Greek radio and
television, that he had boasted of having control over judges who
might be called upon to rule in a dispute over his appointment.
A second bishop, Metropolitan Theoklitos of Thessaly, has been
asked to answer allegations that he was arrested in civilian clothes
in a central Greek nightclub last year during a drugs bust.
At the same time, an arrest warrant has been issued for
Archimandrite Iakovos Yiosakis, a former monk accused of stealing
ancient relics from archaeological sites on the island of Kythera
while serving in a monastery there.
He was not at home in Piraeus yesterday when police went to arrest
him. He has been charged with antiquities smuggling and
embezzlement, some of it in connection with a stint as a priest in
Chicago.
All three claim to have been close aides to Archbishop
Christodoulos, who said yesterday:
"I have only one task at the moment to eradicate corruption from
within the Church."
After yesterday's four-hour meeting, the synod asked the Greek
Government to amend its ecclesiastical laws to allow the Church to
take tougher legal action against its wayward clergymen. So far the
Government has guarded its constitutional right to enforce the laws
in church issues.
The most serious charges are those against Metropolitan Panteleimon.
His accusers say that the alleged taped telephone conversation is
evidence that he wielded strong influence over at least one judge
who has been suspended by Greece's highest court for taking large
bribes to free convicted drug dealers from jail.
Three other judges face similar penalties, while nine more are under
investigation. The bishop did not deny allegations that he was the
manager of a mutual fund worth at least 1 million (£690,000), most
of it in the names of his relatives, but defended it on the ground
that he needed "something to put by for an emergency".
Panteleimon's appointment in 1998 was claimed to be fraudulent by
hundreds of parishioners who rioted in churches in northern Athens
and took unsuccessful legal action to overturn it.
Archbishop Christodoulos himself is under fire from some bishops who
claim that he knew of the scandals for a long time but did not take
action until the media forced him to. Metropolitan Chrysostomos of
Zakynthos, a noted liberal, predicted: "A tsunami is coming and it
will reach the Archbishop himself."
Any senior clergyman found to have committed a crime or severe
breach of ethics faces a six-month suspension and one-third cut in
pay, a synod spokesman said yesterday.
Ne lidhje me provokacionin e paprecedent te qarqeve shoviniste greke dhe ne veēanti, me kerkesen prepotente te priftit JANULLATOS per nenshtetesi shqiptare, ne deklarojme si vijon:
Duke pare zhvillimet ne Shqiperi, ne Kosove dhe ne krejt rajonin ballkanik, kuptohet se qarqet sllave dhe greke, shohin me nje xhelozi te erret dhe sens inferioriteti zgjidhjen e ēeshtjes se trojeve shqiptare. Ata shohin me ligesi dhe xhelozi perparimet ne marrveshjet nderkombetare mbi ēeshtjen e statusit te Kosoves, ekuilibret ne Maqedoni, kthesen e forte qe po kerkon te beje vete Shqiperia ne lidhje me qeverisjen e saj shume te perfolur.
Ketyre zhvillimeve mesa duket qarqet greke dhe ato sllave te cilat imponuan pa te drejte, ne menyre prepotente, agresive, unilaterale, ardhjen e priftit JANULLATOS ne krye te kishes ortodokse shqiptare, po ju pergjigjen me nje kunderlevizje djallezore.
Kjo manover provokuese, destabilizuese, dashakeqase, me justifikimin se ne Shqiperi duhen mbrojtur interesat e grekefolesve te cilet deklarojne mbi te gjitha se jane shqiptare, ka per qellim konsolidimin e "helmit grek" qe ka mundur te depertoje prej vitesh, ne zemer te shqiptareve, ne Tirane.
Grekefolesit ne Shqiperi jane me pak se 3% e popullsise dhe sidoqofte nuk mund te konsiderohen te rrezikuar ne klimen liorise dhe barazise se krijuar pas diktatures komuniste qe i persekutoi barbarisht.
Nese, qarqet panhelenike, pansllaviste duan te shkaterrojne ekuilibrat e brishte te vendosur se fundmi nga shqiptaret,
nese ata duan te krijojne tensione ne menyre qe ēeshtja ēame te mos hyje ne axhendat e dipllomacise nderkombetare, qe ēeshtja e statusit te Kosoves dhe trojeve te tjera shqiptare te mos perparoje,
atehere,
duke marre parasysh vlerat e kombit, te drejten per vetvendosje, perparim, zhvillim dhe mbrojtje legjitime nga provokacinet e fqinjeve qe kane per qellim,
sabotimin dhe shkaterrimin e istitucioneve dhe democracine e brishte ne Shqiperi,
Gjykata Supreme e Kombit
denon,
ne cilesine e agjentit sabotator, qe minon demokracine dhe punon per shkaterrimin e shtetit shqiptar dhe te istitucioneve ne trojet shqiptarefolese,
shtetasin e huaj Anastas Janullatos,
qe aktualisht mban funksionin publik te drejtuesit te kishes ortodokse shqiptare,
me Denimin Kapital.
Vendim i marre me 3.02.2005
Organizata
ZERI I TROJEVE SHQIPTARE
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Kesaj deklarate nuk i duhet vene rendesi me teper se sa duhet. Organizata te
tilla jane fantazma te krijuara si kunder-pergjigje ndaj 'politikave' te
Diaspores Greke dhe eksponenteve te saj si Nicholas Gage. Gjithashtu i duhet
vene faj KOASH-it dhe Janullatosin per mbajtjen nen 'erresire' mbi politikat
e menaxhimin e KOASHI-it te Shqiptareve jo-Ortodokse nen prektekstin se keto
gjera jane vetem ceshtje te Ortodoksve. Kjo politike rrezik nje dite do ti
haje koken...pa pasur asnje faj. Shpetimi i Janullatosit gjendet tek
transparenca totale e KOASH-it duke perfshire ketu burimin e financimit dhe
procesin e vendimmarrjes ne pergatitjen e klerit dhe investimeve ne
infrastrukture.
"If money living could buy
The rich would live, and
The poor would die"
African American slave song
>From: Kleanthi Dede <kdede.geo@...>
>Reply-To: clubhimara@yahoogroups.com
>To: clubhimara@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: [Club HIMARA] DEKLARATE E CUDITESHME
>Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2005 08:04:58 -0800 (PST)
>
>qik_kic@..., albeuropa@egroups.com, Memedheu@yahoogroups.com,
>shqiperia@yahoogroups.com, gazetard@...,
>gazeta55@..., shijaktv01@...,
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>BookDate:Sat, 5 Feb 2005 10:28:14 ESTSubject:[lidhjashqiptare] DEKLARATE
>[input] [input] [input] [input] DEKLARATE
>
>Ne lidhje me provokacionin e paprecedent te qarqeve shoviniste greke dhe ne
>veēanti, me kerkesen prepotente te priftit JANULLATOS per nenshtetesi
>shqiptare, ne deklarojme si vijon:
>
>Duke pare zhvillimet ne Shqiperi, ne Kosove dhe ne krejt rajonin ballkanik,
>kuptohet se qarqet sllave dhe greke, shohin me nje xhelozi te erret dhe
>sens inferioriteti zgjidhjen e ēeshtjes se trojeve shqiptare. Ata shohin me
>ligesi dhe xhelozi perparimet ne marrveshjet nderkombetare mbi ēeshtjen e
>statusit te Kosoves, ekuilibret ne Maqedoni, kthesen e forte qe po kerkon
>te beje vete Shqiperia ne lidhje me qeverisjen e saj shume te perfolur.
>
>Ketyre zhvillimeve mesa duket qarqet greke dhe ato sllave te cilat imponuan
>pa te drejte, ne menyre prepotente, agresive, unilaterale, ardhjen e
>priftit JANULLATOS ne krye te kishes ortodokse shqiptare, po ju pergjigjen
>me nje kunderlevizje djallezore.
>
>Kjo manover provokuese, destabilizuese, dashakeqase, me justifikimin se ne
>Shqiperi duhen mbrojtur interesat e grekefolesve te cilet deklarojne mbi te
>gjitha se jane shqiptare, ka per qellim konsolidimin e "helmit grek" qe ka
>mundur te depertoje prej vitesh, ne zemer te shqiptareve, ne Tirane.
>
>Grekefolesit ne Shqiperi jane me pak se 3% e popullsise dhe sidoqofte nuk
>mund te konsiderohen te rrezikuar ne klimen liorise dhe barazise se krijuar
>pas diktatures komuniste qe i persekutoi barbarisht.
>
>Nese, qarqet panhelenike, pansllaviste duan te shkaterrojne ekuilibrat e
>brishte te vendosur se fundmi nga shqiptaret,
>nese ata duan te krijojne tensione ne menyre qe ēeshtja ēame te mos hyje ne
>axhendat e dipllomacise nderkombetare, qe ēeshtja e statusit te Kosoves dhe
>trojeve te tjera shqiptare te mos perparoje,
>
>atehere,
>
>duke marre parasysh vlerat e kombit, te drejten per vetvendosje, perparim,
>zhvillim dhe mbrojtje legjitime nga provokacinet e fqinjeve qe kane per
>qellim,
>sabotimin dhe shkaterrimin e istitucioneve dhe democracine e brishte ne
>Shqiperi,
>
>Gjykata Supreme e Kombit
>
>denon,
>
>ne cilesine e agjentit sabotator, qe minon demokracine dhe punon per
>shkaterrimin e shtetit shqiptar dhe te istitucioneve ne trojet
>shqiptarefolese,
>
>shtetasin e huaj Anastas Janullatos,
>
>qe aktualisht mban funksionin publik te drejtuesit te kishes ortodokse
>shqiptare,
>
>me Denimin Kapital.
>
>Vendim i marre me 3.02.2005
>
>Organizata
>
>ZERI I TROJEVE SHQIPTARE
>
>
>
>__________________________________________________
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Sava dhe Janullatos jan dy shtrugana tė Ballkanit !
Kreshnik Bejko <kbejko@...> wrote:
Kesaj deklarate nuk i duhet vene rendesi me teper se sa duhet. Organizata te tilla jane fantazma te krijuara si kunder-pergjigje ndaj 'politikave' te Diaspores Greke dhe eksponenteve te saj si Nicholas Gage. Gjithashtu i duhet vene faj KOASH-it dhe Janullatosin per mbajtjen nen 'erresire' mbi politikat e menaxhimin e KOASHI-it te Shqiptareve jo-Ortodokse nen prektekstin se keto gjera jane vetem ceshtje te Ortodoksve. Kjo politike rrezik nje dite do ti haje koken...pa pasur asnje faj. Shpetimi i Janullatosit gjendet tek transparenca totale e KOASH-it duke perfshire ketu burimin e financimit dhe procesin e vendimmarrjes ne pergatitjen e klerit dhe investimeve ne infrastrukture.
"If money living could buy The rich would live, and The poor would die" African American slave song
>From: Kleanthi
Dede >Reply-To: clubhimara@yahoogroups.com >To: clubhimara@yahoogroups.com >Subject: [Club HIMARA] DEKLARATE E CUDITESHME >Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2005 08:04:58 -0800 (PST) > >qik_kic@..., albeuropa@egroups.com, Memedheu@yahoogroups.com, >shqiperia@yahoogroups.com, gazetard@..., >gazeta55@..., shijaktv01@..., >alb-info-talk@yahoogroups.com, lidhjashqiptare@yahoogroups.com, >ALBANEWS@...:BeqirS@... Add to Address >BookDate:Sat, 5 Feb 2005 10:28:14 ESTSubject:[lidhjashqiptare] DEKLARATE >[input] [input] [input] [input] DEKLARATE > >Ne lidhje me provokacionin e paprecedent te qarqeve shoviniste greke dhe ne >veēanti, me kerkesen prepotente te priftit JANULLATOS per nenshtetesi >shqiptare, ne deklarojme si vijon: > >Duke pare zhvillimet ne Shqiperi, ne Kosove dhe ne krejt rajonin
ballkanik, >kuptohet se qarqet sllave dhe greke, shohin me nje xhelozi te erret dhe >sens inferioriteti zgjidhjen e ēeshtjes se trojeve shqiptare. Ata shohin me >ligesi dhe xhelozi perparimet ne marrveshjet nderkombetare mbi ēeshtjen e >statusit te Kosoves, ekuilibret ne Maqedoni, kthesen e forte qe po kerkon >te beje vete Shqiperia ne lidhje me qeverisjen e saj shume te perfolur. > >Ketyre zhvillimeve mesa duket qarqet greke dhe ato sllave te cilat imponuan >pa te drejte, ne menyre prepotente, agresive, unilaterale, ardhjen e >priftit JANULLATOS ne krye te kishes ortodokse shqiptare, po ju pergjigjen >me nje kunderlevizje djallezore. > >Kjo manover provokuese, destabilizuese, dashakeqase, me justifikimin se ne >Shqiperi duhen mbrojtur interesat e grekefolesve te cilet deklarojne mbi te >gjitha se jane shqiptare, ka per qellim konsolidimin e "helmit grek" qe ka >mundur te depertoje
prej vitesh, ne zemer te shqiptareve, ne Tirane. > >Grekefolesit ne Shqiperi jane me pak se 3% e popullsise dhe sidoqofte nuk >mund te konsiderohen te rrezikuar ne klimen liorise dhe barazise se krijuar >pas diktatures komuniste qe i persekutoi barbarisht. > >Nese, qarqet panhelenike, pansllaviste duan te shkaterrojne ekuilibrat e >brishte te vendosur se fundmi nga shqiptaret, >nese ata duan te krijojne tensione ne menyre qe ēeshtja ēame te mos hyje ne >axhendat e dipllomacise nderkombetare, qe ēeshtja e statusit te Kosoves dhe >trojeve te tjera shqiptare te mos perparoje, > >atehere, > >duke marre parasysh vlerat e kombit, te drejten per vetvendosje, perparim, >zhvillim dhe mbrojtje legjitime nga provokacinet e fqinjeve qe kane per >qellim, >sabotimin dhe shkaterrimin e istitucioneve dhe democracine e brishte ne >Shqiperi, > >Gjykata Supreme e
Kombit > >denon, > >ne cilesine e agjentit sabotator, qe minon demokracine dhe punon per >shkaterrimin e shtetit shqiptar dhe te istitucioneve ne trojet >shqiptarefolese, > >shtetasin e huaj Anastas Janullatos, > >qe aktualisht mban funksionin publik te drejtuesit te kishes ortodokse >shqiptare, > >me Denimin Kapital. > >Vendim i marre me 3.02.2005 > >Organizata > >ZERI I TROJEVE SHQIPTARE > > > >__________________________________________________ >Do You Yahoo!? >Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around >http://mail.yahoo.com
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Kleanthi, opos blepo dhinis oso pai kai perisotero xoro ston alvaniko
ethnikismo kai fontamentalismo.
Dhen einai oi proti fora poy turkalbanoi exoyn kanei teties
prakseis. Dhen itan aftoi poy skotosan ton Ajo Kosma? Kai tora
apiloyne ton sevasto prosopo toy Janoylatoy.
Ti na kaneis, ta pedia tipoy Bin Laden erhontai tora kai sto side tis
Himaras...As prosefxiomaste o Theos na toys fillasei to mjallo.
>From: llaman2000 <no_reply@yahoogroups.com>
>Reply-To: clubhimara@yahoogroups.com
>To: clubhimara@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: [Club HIMARA] Re: O Bin Laden dhen exei dhoyla sti Himara
>Date: Tue, 08 Feb 2005 09:42:47 -0000
>
> Dhen einai oi proti fora poy turkalbanoi exoyn kanei teties
>prakseis. Dhen itan aftoi poy skotosan ton Ajo Kosma? Kai tora
>apiloyne ton sevasto prosopo toy Janoylatoy.
Per Zotin po te pashe here tjeter ti quash shqiptaret 'turkalbanoi' do te te
gjej shtepine e pastaj do flasim bashke se kush eshte turk! Mbetje gjenetike
mongole!!
--- In clubhimara@yahoogroups.com, "Kreshnik Bejko" <kbejko@h...>
wrote:
> >From: llaman2000 <no_reply@yahoogroups.com>
> >Reply-To: clubhimara@yahoogroups.com
> >To: clubhimara@yahoogroups.com
> >Subject: [Club HIMARA] Re: O Bin Laden dhen exei dhoyla sti Himara
> >Date: Tue, 08 Feb 2005 09:42:47 -0000
>
> >
> > Dhen einai oi proti fora poy turkalbanoi exoyn kanei teties
> >prakseis. Dhen itan aftoi poy skotosan ton Ajo Kosma? Kai tora
> >apiloyne ton sevasto prosopo toy Janoylatoy.
>
KBejko:
> Per Zotin po te pashe here tjeter ti quash shqiptaret 'turkalbanoi'
do te te
> gjej shtepine e pastaj do flasim bashke se kush eshte turk! Mbetje
gjenetike
> mongole!!
Ego onomazo turkalvanoi oxi toys albanoys, mono aytoys poy exoyn tin
notropia na katapatisoyn tin thriskia mas opos kai o k Bejko me
kompani poy tora apilei na mu kapsi to spiti. Fenete ksexase oti
exei dhillosi oti einai xristianos. Eskos!
Ego dhen vrisko kaliteri leksi apo "turkalvano" gia afton poy skotose
ton Ajo Kosma kai opio apili ton Sevasto arxiepiskopo Anastasio. An
kapios mporei na vrei kati pio sosto as to lei.
Pros k Bejko:
Pseftoxristiane, afise mas stin isixia, afoy dhe se ipologizei kanis
o ti les kai ti kaneis
(periergo, tora o Bejkos dheixnei oti katalavenei elenika kalla, eno
palia isxirizotan oti dhen kserei ellenika, mono afrikanika ta pai
kalla)
Gia to kleanthi: Ti perimeneis Kleanthe apo ena tetio anthropo? Mas
brizei opote thelei, mas apilei opote gustarei dhen sevete ta
stixiodhis pramata kai parolo afto esi dhen theleis na valeis mia
ithiki taksi !!!. Toylaxiston kane moy ti xari qe vgale to onoma moy
os Moderator, afu dhen exo prosvasi na dhioxno ena anepithimito
anthropo apo to side !!!.Tha to ektimiso poli ayto.
Discover history
http://www.christusrex.org/www1/pater/JPN-turco-greek.html
_____________quote___________________________________________________
TURCO-GREEK - An old dialect spoken in Epyrus, northern Greece.
_____________________________________________________________________
http://www.zipcon.net/OCW/2004/ocw_1537.html
______________________________quote__________________________________
1. "TURKO-HELLENIC RAPPROCHEMENT"
On June 4th, 2002, the Greek Television channel "High" it was
reported that a Metropolitan performed the sacred mystery of baptism
in the Patriarchal church where the additional sponsor was a Turkish
Muslim woman Ebrou Sanver. After the baptism the Ecumenical
Patriarch Bartholomew "congratulated the parents and the sponsors
and told them, 'this event that a Muslim woman has become the
Godmother of an Orthodox is proof of Turko-Hellenic rapprochement
and must become an example for everyone, so they can all acquire a
Moslem godparent". This unbelievable item was originally published
in an Athens newspaper (Eleftheri Ora, June 7, 2002). It was
republished in periodical from Salonica, Parakatothiki, May-June,
2002 issue. Orthodoxos Typos, in its September 13, 2002, issue made
a brief comment with the headline: "Baptisms with Moslem Godparents.
To this day, the Ecumenical Patriarchate has yet to deny these anti-
Orthodox actions". (Orthodoxos Typos, issue # 1474, October 4, 2002)
_____________________________________________________________________
http://www.ksg.harvard.edu/kokkalis/GSW2/Kechriotis.PDF
_________________quote_____________________________________________
In Athens, the news of the Revolution provoked waves of enthusiasm.
Under the direction of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs, a group of
people involved in Greek-Ottoman relations organised a visit of good
will to the Ottoman capital. Karolides, who had already been
nominated a candidate for the Parliament, was among them and
described, in his memoirs, his genuine excitement and surprise at
the magnificent welcome. An incident of this welcome is
characteristic of the atmosphere. During a dinner given in their
honour by Muhiedin bey, a Unionist figure of this early period, the
host refers to Greeks as the `older brothers' (presvyteroi aderfoi)
of Turks in their struggle towards freedom. Karolides was
unsurprised and wrote down that the Turkish leader was obviously
confusing the nationalist character of the Greek revolution with the
social character of the Turkish. Karolides replied as follows: « The
Greek revolution had been the passage to freedom not only
for the Greek nation, but for the whole East, even for the Turkish
nation».
The reference to `older borthers' should be read together with the
statement by delegate Bousios, declaring his loyalty to the Ottoman
state: «The Ottoman state is our mother. Greece is our sister». The
attribution of family terms to cultural or national bonds is not a
novelty.
The succession of the Ottoman tradition was a more compicated
affair. As a consequence of the Tanzimat reforms and the stagnation
of the Greek state during the last decades, there had been a gradual
transformation concerning the discourse about the Greek-Orthodox
communities. This developement affected the balance of meaning
between the Ottoman and the Greek as national identities. The two
terms seemed to coexist without any concern that this could lead to
confusion. The confusion still continues.
Let's start by suggesting what these terms do not mean. Greek is not
identified any more with Christian. Other Christian nationalisms, in
the Balkans and elsewhere had developed their own irredentist
discourse in the second half of the 19th c.. Bulgarians, Serbs,
Romanians but also Armenians and Christian Arabs had dismantled a
single Christian identity. Nor do Greeks identify with the citizens
of the Greek state. Certainly, after the foundation of the Greek
state and the emergence of the Greek `Great Idea'
(Megali Idea) in the 1840s, a major task of this state has been to
implement any possible measure for the liberation of the enslaved
brothers.
Yet, it is clear that the Ottoman motherland and the Greek
nation can coexist on one ground only: political identification. In
this way, it's not very difficult to perceive how the Turks are
described as the `younger brothers' of the already
politically `mature' Greeks, in Muhiedin's terms, or how Greeks
through their own Revolution are said to have liberated the Turks.
However, the political character Souliotis attributes to
`Hellenism' does not derive from a Western republican but from
ancient Greek tradition of democracy. He declares in agony: «If I
could put that in everybody's consciousness they would turn there
and would find at the end a political system that would unite them,
a political system which would not imitate the well-known European
ones.»
On the other hand, Ottoman is
described as a mixed and pretentious civilisation of the upper
class, which distorts the character of the nation. Moreover, Ottoman
civilisation is not only alien to the Turkish but derives from the
ancient Greek one. Intellectuals (seckinler) should turn to the
people both to become familiar with the national culture and to make
known high culture (medeniyet) to the people. This high culture is
the western one. Turkish nationalism, in Gokalp's terms, combines
popular culture with the West. Turkism and Ottomanism do not
intersect at any point. It seems that at this turning point of
national ideologies in the Empire, in the Greek-Ottoman discourse,
as constructed by Souliotis and Dragoumis, Greek national identity
comes closer to the Ottoman than the Turkish one. Paradoxically,
Turks recognize the Greeks as their older brothers, while Greeks
seem to recognize the Ottoman Empire as their Motherland, which is
proclaimed by Turkish nationalism to be a complete stranger. A
rather bizarre family affair.
At the same time, Greek socialist intellectuals who, like Karolides,
were of Ottoman origin had already attributed to Turkish nationalism
a progressive bourgeois character.
_____________________________________________________________________
http://www.masud.co.uk/ISLAM/bmh/BMM-AHM-pickthall_ottoman_greeks.htm
__________________quote______________________________________________
OTTOMAN GREEKS: Chapter IX
In 1913, Pickthall spent several months in Turkey, where he sought
to counteract the anti-Muslim agitation of the British press by
collecting first-hand information about the massacres of Muslims
which had taken place in Macedonia in the previous year. The result
was a series of lectures to the Anglo-Ottoman Friendship Society,
and a book, With the Turk in Wartime (London: J.M. Dent). The
following is a chapter.
They were Greeks from a village up the Bosphorus fearless, self-
respecting girls who earned a modest living by their work as
dressmakers, journeying from house to house. At one time they had
gone to Christian houses only; but latterly, by Misket Hanum's
recommendation, had worked for Turks as well. As they themselves
informed me they were petted by all the Turkish ladies, and treated
by the men with all respect. Yet they dared not let their parents
know that they had ever been employed in Muslim houses. Had the fact
been but suspected in their village they would have been ostracised,
perhaps stoned; for ignorant Christians are as fanatical as ignorant
Muslims. A native Christian girl who marries a Mohammedan is killed
as a sacred duty by her nearest relatives if they can get at her.
That was true, the girls admitted; the Muslims often did kind
actions, which, however, could not blind a Christian to their utter
and essential wickedness, the product of a false religion. It was
known that they esteemed it holiness to kill a Christian when they
got the chance.
I had many subsequent opportunities of studying the point of view of
ordinary Greeks, for these girls were often in the house and our
cook was also Greek and fond of argument. I never ceased to marvel
at its pure fanaticism. They really liked the Turks of their
acquaintance; that is to say, their own experience would have made
them tolerant, but for the instruction which they had received from
priest and parents, in which they hurriedly took refuge if accused
of such a liking. They were gentle girls, incapable of harming
anyone; yet I have heard them earnestly maintain that the great
persecution of Mohammedans at that time going on in Macedonia was
justified upon religious grounds; though they changed their tune
directly it was known that the Greeks had suffered too. Some Turkish
men, who visited our house habitually, took delight in teasing them
until they showed fanaticism. Then they would turn to me and
say: `Amazing, is it not? In this century! But all Greeks, without
exception, are like that.'
The Greeks of Turkey were not always like that. Of old, when their
women veiled like the Turkish women, when their men wore fez and
turban like the Turkish men, there was no such bitterness between
the two religions. If they are `like that' today it is the outcome
of a century and more of anti-Turkish propaganda, first Russian,
then Hellenic. How many Turkish subjects have thus cunningly and
patiently been trained to be a barrier to Turkish progress, to
prevent the realisation of my Muslim khōja's dream of peace and
goodwill!
The Turks dislike the Greeks chiefly, I believe, on grounds of
roguery but laugh at them; they do not hate them.
`Oh,' said the friend, who, for his quiet judgments, I had chosen
for my mentor, when we broached this subject; `the hatred that they
have for us is imposed on them, a kind of dogma. They hate the
Armenians, Bulgars, Catholics with another, much more lively kind of
hatred, I assure you. If Europe would but say decidedly that Greece
shall never have Constantinople, that no more territory shall be
taken from us, those people might become good subjects.'
Among the cultured, cosmopolitan Greeks of Constantinople one
occasionally finds a cordial liking for the Turks. A Greek of this
sort who was interested in my studies invited us to his island villa
towards the end of my stay in Turkey. One evening, as we smoked
together, looking out upon the sea and the many distant lights which
marked the entrance to the Bosphorus, he let fall this strange
saying: `You cannot say much for the Turks that would appeal to
English people, for they are unbusinesslike a fault for which
commercial Europe will never forgive them. But you can say with
truth that they are generally good and kindly while the Christians
of this country are well, "wicked"; I can find no other word for
it.'
__________________________________________________________________
1. In referance to the link:
As you can all understand contary to Albanian worthless creatures,
the Greeks no matter what they faced, didn't loose their identity.
They respected Christ, even when they were pushed to change, they
didn't become muslims.
2. In referance to the articles:
It's worhtless answering the other articles, since the point from
the author (Mr. Alba00_99) is not obvious.
Regards, Spiros
P.S. As Sharon would say: "Get a Nation"
--- In clubhimara@yahoogroups.com, albann00_99 <no_reply@y...> wrote:
>
>
> Discover history
>
> http://www.christusrex.org/www1/pater/JPN-turco-greek.html
>
>
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>
> TURCO-GREEK - An old dialect spoken in Epyrus, northern Greece.
>
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>
>
>
>
> http://www.zipcon.net/OCW/2004/ocw_1537.html
>
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>
> 1. "TURKO-HELLENIC RAPPROCHEMENT"
>
> On June 4th, 2002, the Greek Television channel "High" it was
> reported that a Metropolitan performed the sacred mystery of
baptism
> in the Patriarchal church where the additional sponsor was a
Turkish
> Muslim woman Ebrou Sanver. After the baptism the Ecumenical
> Patriarch Bartholomew "congratulated the parents and the sponsors
> and told them, 'this event that a Muslim woman has become the
> Godmother of an Orthodox is proof of Turko-Hellenic rapprochement
> and must become an example for everyone, so they can all acquire a
> Moslem godparent". This unbelievable item was originally published
> in an Athens newspaper (Eleftheri Ora, June 7, 2002). It was
> republished in periodical from Salonica, Parakatothiki, May-June,
> 2002 issue. Orthodoxos Typos, in its September 13, 2002, issue
made
> a brief comment with the headline: "Baptisms with Moslem
Godparents.
> To this day, the Ecumenical Patriarchate has yet to deny these
anti-
> Orthodox actions". (Orthodoxos Typos, issue # 1474, October 4,
2002)
>
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>
>
>
>
> http://www.ksg.harvard.edu/kokkalis/GSW2/Kechriotis.PDF
> _________________quote_____________________________________________
>
> In Athens, the news of the Revolution provoked waves of
enthusiasm.
> Under the direction of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs, a group of
> people involved in Greek-Ottoman relations organised a visit of
good
> will to the Ottoman capital. Karolides, who had already been
> nominated a candidate for the Parliament, was among them and
> described, in his memoirs, his genuine excitement and surprise at
> the magnificent welcome. An incident of this welcome is
> characteristic of the atmosphere. During a dinner given in their
> honour by Muhiedin bey, a Unionist figure of this early period,
the
> host refers to Greeks as the `older brothers' (presvyteroi
aderfoi)
> of Turks in their struggle towards freedom. Karolides was
> unsurprised and wrote down that the Turkish leader was obviously
> confusing the nationalist character of the Greek revolution with
the
> social character of the Turkish. Karolides replied as follows: «
The
> Greek revolution had been the passage to freedom not only
> for the Greek nation, but for the whole East, even for the Turkish
> nation».
>
> The reference to `older borthers' should be read together with the
> statement by delegate Bousios, declaring his loyalty to the
Ottoman
> state: «The Ottoman state is our mother. Greece is our sister».
The
> attribution of family terms to cultural or national bonds is not a
> novelty.
>
> The succession of the Ottoman tradition was a more compicated
> affair. As a consequence of the Tanzimat reforms and the
stagnation
> of the Greek state during the last decades, there had been a
gradual
> transformation concerning the discourse about the Greek-Orthodox
> communities. This developement affected the balance of meaning
> between the Ottoman and the Greek as national identities. The two
> terms seemed to coexist without any concern that this could lead
to
> confusion. The confusion still continues.
> Let's start by suggesting what these terms do not mean. Greek is
not
> identified any more with Christian. Other Christian nationalisms,
in
> the Balkans and elsewhere had developed their own irredentist
> discourse in the second half of the 19th c.. Bulgarians, Serbs,
> Romanians but also Armenians and Christian Arabs had dismantled a
> single Christian identity. Nor do Greeks identify with the
citizens
> of the Greek state. Certainly, after the foundation of the Greek
> state and the emergence of the Greek `Great Idea'
> (Megali Idea) in the 1840s, a major task of this state has been to
> implement any possible measure for the liberation of the enslaved
> brothers.
>
> Yet, it is clear that the Ottoman motherland and the Greek
> nation can coexist on one ground only: political identification.
In
> this way, it's not very difficult to perceive how the Turks are
> described as the `younger brothers' of the already
> politically `mature' Greeks, in Muhiedin's terms, or how Greeks
> through their own Revolution are said to have liberated the Turks.
> However, the political character Souliotis attributes to
> `Hellenism' does not derive from a Western republican but from
> ancient Greek tradition of democracy. He declares in agony: «If I
> could put that in everybody's consciousness they would turn there
> and would find at the end a political system that would unite
them,
> a political system which would not imitate the well-known European
> ones.»
>
> On the other hand, Ottoman is
> described as a mixed and pretentious civilisation of the upper
> class, which distorts the character of the nation. Moreover,
Ottoman
> civilisation is not only alien to the Turkish but derives from the
> ancient Greek one. Intellectuals (seckinler) should turn to the
> people both to become familiar with the national culture and to
make
> known high culture (medeniyet) to the people. This high culture is
> the western one. Turkish nationalism, in Gokalp's terms, combines
> popular culture with the West. Turkism and Ottomanism do not
> intersect at any point. It seems that at this turning point of
> national ideologies in the Empire, in the Greek-Ottoman discourse,
> as constructed by Souliotis and Dragoumis, Greek national identity
> comes closer to the Ottoman than the Turkish one. Paradoxically,
> Turks recognize the Greeks as their older brothers, while Greeks
> seem to recognize the Ottoman Empire as their Motherland, which is
> proclaimed by Turkish nationalism to be a complete stranger. A
> rather bizarre family affair.
> At the same time, Greek socialist intellectuals who, like
Karolides,
> were of Ottoman origin had already attributed to Turkish
nationalism
> a progressive bourgeois character.
>
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>
>
>
>
> http://www.masud.co.uk/ISLAM/bmh/BMM-AHM-
pickthall_ottoman_greeks.htm
>
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>
> OTTOMAN GREEKS: Chapter IX
> In 1913, Pickthall spent several months in Turkey, where he sought
> to counteract the anti-Muslim agitation of the British press by
> collecting first-hand information about the massacres of Muslims
> which had taken place in Macedonia in the previous year. The
result
> was a series of lectures to the Anglo-Ottoman Friendship Society,
> and a book, With the Turk in Wartime (London: J.M. Dent). The
> following is a chapter.
>
> They were Greeks from a village up the Bosphorus fearless, self-
> respecting girls who earned a modest living by their work as
> dressmakers, journeying from house to house. At one time they had
> gone to Christian houses only; but latterly, by Misket Hanum's
> recommendation, had worked for Turks as well. As they themselves
> informed me they were petted by all the Turkish ladies, and
treated
> by the men with all respect. Yet they dared not let their parents
> know that they had ever been employed in Muslim houses. Had the
fact
> been but suspected in their village they would have been
ostracised,
> perhaps stoned; for ignorant Christians are as fanatical as
ignorant
> Muslims. A native Christian girl who marries a Mohammedan is
killed
> as a sacred duty by her nearest relatives if they can get at her.
>
> That was true, the girls admitted; the Muslims often did kind
> actions, which, however, could not blind a Christian to their
utter
> and essential wickedness, the product of a false religion. It was
> known that they esteemed it holiness to kill a Christian when they
> got the chance.
>
> I had many subsequent opportunities of studying the point of view
of
> ordinary Greeks, for these girls were often in the house and our
> cook was also Greek and fond of argument. I never ceased to marvel
> at its pure fanaticism. They really liked the Turks of their
> acquaintance; that is to say, their own experience would have made
> them tolerant, but for the instruction which they had received
from
> priest and parents, in which they hurriedly took refuge if accused
> of such a liking. They were gentle girls, incapable of harming
> anyone; yet I have heard them earnestly maintain that the great
> persecution of Mohammedans at that time going on in Macedonia was
> justified upon religious grounds; though they changed their tune
> directly it was known that the Greeks had suffered too. Some
Turkish
> men, who visited our house habitually, took delight in teasing
them
> until they showed fanaticism. Then they would turn to me and
> say: `Amazing, is it not? In this century! But all Greeks, without
> exception, are like that.'
> The Greeks of Turkey were not always like that. Of old, when their
> women veiled like the Turkish women, when their men wore fez and
> turban like the Turkish men, there was no such bitterness between
> the two religions. If they are `like that' today it is the outcome
> of a century and more of anti-Turkish propaganda, first Russian,
> then Hellenic. How many Turkish subjects have thus cunningly and
> patiently been trained to be a barrier to Turkish progress, to
> prevent the realisation of my Muslim khōja's dream of peace and
> goodwill!
>
> The Turks dislike the Greeks chiefly, I believe, on grounds of
> roguery but laugh at them; they do not hate them.
> `Oh,' said the friend, who, for his quiet judgments, I had chosen
> for my mentor, when we broached this subject; `the hatred that
they
> have for us is imposed on them, a kind of dogma. They hate the
> Armenians, Bulgars, Catholics with another, much more lively kind
of
> hatred, I assure you. If Europe would but say decidedly that
Greece
> shall never have Constantinople, that no more territory shall be
> taken from us, those people might become good subjects.'
> Among the cultured, cosmopolitan Greeks of Constantinople one
> occasionally finds a cordial liking for the Turks. A Greek of this
> sort who was interested in my studies invited us to his island
villa
> towards the end of my stay in Turkey. One evening, as we smoked
> together, looking out upon the sea and the many distant lights
which
> marked the entrance to the Bosphorus, he let fall this strange
> saying: `You cannot say much for the Turks that would appeal to
> English people, for they are unbusinesslike a fault for which
> commercial Europe will never forgive them. But you can say with
> truth that they are generally good and kindly while the Christians
> of this country are well, "wicked"; I can find no other word for
> it.'
> __________________________________________________________________
>From: "Spiros Koutoulas" <kogas_drakos@...>
>Reply-To: clubhimara@yahoogroups.com
>To: clubhimara@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: [Club HIMARA] Re: Turco-Greeks
>Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2005 10:47:02 -0000
>
>
>1. In referance to the link:
>As you can all understand contary to Albanian worthless creatures,
>the Greeks no matter what they faced, didn't loose their identity.
>They respected Christ,
What the hell does Christ have to do with Greeks?
Introduction ą la lexicologie du franēais
Nonda VARFI, Introduction ą la lexicologie du franēais, Lausanne,
Ecole de franēais moderne de l'Université de lausanne, 1999, 190 pp.
Synthčse qui doit permettre ą l'étudiant de se familiariser avec les
notions de base de lexicologie et d'aborder tous les domaines liés au
sens des mots : polysémie, homonymie, synonymie, antonymie, champs
sémantiques .Une partie importante de l'ouvrage est également
consacrée ą la dynamique lexicale : la création de nouveaux mots, la
formation des mots, les changements de sens, l'argot. Sans oublier
les liens avec l'originalité des mots ou avec les éléments culturels.
Note: Nonda Varfi eshte nga Qeparoi, dekan i fakultetit te gjuheve te
huaja ne Tirane, me nje aktivitet mjaft te pasur edhe si perkthyes
nga gjuha frengjishte duke ecur ne traditen e himarjoteve si Janko
Pali, Aleksander Zoto etj. Permendim ketu perkthimin e shkrimtarit
bestseller Paolo Coelho brazilian por nga gjuha frenge. ME SHUME TE
DHENA VIJOJNE NE MESAGIN E ARDHSHEM
Simiosi: Nonda Varfi einai apo to Qeparo, proedrios sth sxoli ksenon
gloson sta Tirana. Exei megali drastiriotita os metafrastis apo
galika sta albanika akoluthontas etsi tin paradhosi poy exoyn oi
Himareoi opos Janko Pali, Aleksander Zoto ktl. Anaferoyme edho tin
metafrasi toy bestseller Paolo Coelho (brazilianos) apo tin galiki
glosa. Perisotera dhedhomena tha feroyme ston epomeno minima.
Kleanthi eisai gia ta panigiria teleios. Den asholoumai allo mazi
sou. I proti gnomi pou shimatisa gia sena einai telika i pio sosti.
Tha eprepe na ntrepesai gia ton eafto sou pou afineis tetoia atoma
kai minimata edo. Telika den ksero poies ine i dikes sou protheseis
kai apopseis. I mallon ksero alla den thelo na to pistepso. Opos kai
na ehei o kathenas kanei tis epiloges tou kai krinetai ek ton
isteron. Ego epilego na se valo stin blackList (megali sou timi) ton
roufianon, prodoton atimon. Krima se olous tous kakomoirous pou se
empistevontai. An grafei o TourkoAlvanos prosvlitika gia ton
Christo, den to anehomai oute ton katigoro omos oso esena.
NTROPI SOU.
- Italia njoftoi para disa ditesh se per vitin qe jemi do japi vetem 3000 viza per shqiptaret nderkohe qe eshte shtet me rreth 90 milion banoresh, ndersa Greqia zyrtarisht ka pranuar 250 mije, po, po ti shtojme edhe mijera "viza" qe cajne nga ferrat per nje popullsi 10 miljoneshe kejo do te thote qe Greqia ka qene dhe do te jete SUPER GOLD per shqiptaret.
1. Stis 6 Martiou i Enosi Himarioton pragmatopoiei geniki sinele- fsi opou tha parousiastei to ergo toy D.S. kai tha pragmato- poioithoun ekloges gia neo D.S.
2. Stis 13 Martiou, ston Agio Dimitrio tha pragmatopoiithei ekdilosi(giorti) tis Enosis. Epitimos kalesmenos tha einai o kalyteros arsivaristas olon ton epohon - PYRROS DIMAS. O Pyrros tha vravefthei apo tin Enosi.
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Para disa ditesh me porosi te KE-se(Keshillit te Evropes) filloi nga puna nje Komisjon me nje program njevjecar per te pare mundesine e levizjes se lire te njerezve te Ballkanit Perendimor brenda Bashkimit Evropian. Ketu perfshihet Shqiperia, Kosova, Serbi-Mali i Zi, Maqedonia etj. Programi ka si qellim te monitoroje dhe te evidentoje problemet qe do te hasen nga kejo levizje dhe ceshtiet teknike ne pikat e hyrje-daljes me BE-ne. Ne fund te vitit do te jepen konkluzionet qe ka gjasa te vihet ne zbatim sipas eksperteve te lexuara neper medja. Edhe konkluzioni perfundimtar i ceshties se Kosoves eshte lene per nga fundi i vitit. Kejo do te thote qe Evropa qendron ne pozicjoninn e mos dhenies se rezultatit aqe te deshiriuar te Pamvaresise, por gjetjes se nje
zgjidhje tjater qe do ti kenaqe te gjitha palet dhe do te shkarkoje gjithe tensionet ne rajon. Keshtuqe shqiptaret e Kosoves si me te, si pa te, do te jene te lire te levizin ne te gjitha trojet e tyre mbasi kufijte do te jene formale. Ne nje fare menyre endra e krijimit te Shqiperise se Madhe teorikisht realizohet sepse dihet se po u lidhen njerezit njeri me tjatrin pa pengesa, automatikisht jane lidhur edhe trojet. Sekreti i ketij programi qendron ne ate qe kur te filloje zbatimi atehere do te duken me te vertete shqiptaret se sa patriote do te jene, mbasi me hapjen e Evropes ka munsdesi qe ti thone Mirupafshim jo vetem trojeve po gjithe rajonit duke u sistemuar ne vendet e BE-se.
Nje tjater tension qe shkarkon ky program eshte edhe ai Cam. Camet ne kerkesat e tyre themelore kerkojne qe me nje ligj te shtetit grek ata te ribehen shtetas grek qe me pas te kerkojne te drejta ne baze te ligjit. Mirepo nje ligj te tille Greqia as e aprovon dhe as do ta aprovoje pa miratimine e Evropes kejo dihet si buka qe hame, sepse kusuret ne kohen e sotme nuk i paguan Greqia po Evropa, per nje levizje masive te tyre ne baze te nje ligji Helen qe ata shpresojne te arihet, keshtuqe programi i ri u jep mundesine cameve qe te futen ne Greqi ne menyre individuale dhe po ne menyre individuala ata do kene mundesine qe te kerkojne ato, ata cka kerkojne shume kohe, te grupuar dhe te organizuar, e ne kete menyre nuk shkaktojne probleme per Greqine e aqe me teper sekelldisje per Evropen, mbasi prezenca e tyre kudo qe te ndodhen do te jete si qytetar evropian dhe ne kohe te ndryshme, pra
larg nacionalizmave dhe akseseve qe tashme dihen. Edhe ne kete rast do te shohim se sa jane ata qe qahen per pasurite e tyre, sepse ne kontaktet qe kam patur me came me kane thene qe shume prej tyre hyne e dalin ne Greqi si ne shtepine e tyre dhe me mirekuptim me njerezit e tyre apo te njohurit e vjeter i kane mare faktikisht, kejo ka ndodhe edhe ne nje sy qor e nje vesh shurdh qe ka bere Greqia ndoshta edhe per interesat e saja politike duke e pare si zgjidhje te pjeseshme te atij problemi. Eshte pikerishte ajo kategori njerezish qe nuk e ka gjetur llafin me njerezit e atyshem apo te transformuar ose te larguar qe shkaktojne problemet deri edhe ne zenka brenda teritorit grek. Po edhe kete le tia leme kohes dhe le te shohim se cfare do sjelle programi i ri qe po pregatitet, ndoshta levizjet e reja te njerezve pa pengesa do te sjellin me pak probleme per te jetuar ne qetesi dhe harmoni.
Koha prej nje viti qe eshte caktuar nuk eshte e gjate, le te shpresojme per me mire.
Te fala te gjitheve
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- To klub "Himara" kai to site tha mini anixto gia ollus.
- To klub "Himara" kai to ste ine to monadiko foni pu millai anihta gia ta provlimata tis Himaras, pu antidra kai kani tus allus na shqeftune pu i himarei zune kai endiaferune gia ta provlimatatus.
- To klub "Himara" kai to site diforetika apo ales organosis himarioton opu kai vriskunte, ehi "full" programa me full endiaferon gia olus tus katiki tis periohimas.
- To klub "Himara" kai to ste ine sto kentro to politikon kai kapi ali organosis(dhe mas niazi ti programa ehune) apo oles plevres, opu exume kai plirofories.
- To klub "Himara" ine ena akademiko klub kai den ine sollomura klub opos kapi ali klub kai opos lei kai i kiria Leonora member mas, edo ine oli me TITLE, kai dignune kali emfanisi, so, me ti parusiastus kai me oti kanune kai lene se afto to klub dignune afto pu leme oli, oti emis imeste pio psilla apo pollus allus.
- Sto klub "Himara" kai sto site o kathenas mbori na pi kati, gia oti shqeftete kai se oti glosa theli. Mehri simera kanis den itan mbodhizmeno se afto to thema
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- To klub "Himara" kai to site sto mellon mbori na kani eleho se kimena kai alla, me ti shqepsi ti mbori na parusiasti kai ti oxi gia mas...
Simfono me ton Kleanthi anexeretos an merikoi prokaloun ton ena i ton
alo. Ghenikos oloi theloume ta ithio praghmata: na anthisi i Himara
par oles tis piesis pou iposti apo tous ilithious kai na mathoume oso
boroume yia ta simvanta eki.
Simfoniste loipon kai vreite ta metaksi sas, afou o Kleanthis to
ehei parei to thema prosopika kai nomizei oti mporei na ginei igetis
me geia sas me hara sas.
Hairetismous...
--- In clubhimara@yahoogroups.com, "ncocave" <ncocave@y...> wrote:
>
> Simfono me ton Kleanthi anexeretos an merikoi prokaloun ton ena i
ton
> alo. Ghenikos oloi theloume ta ithio praghmata: na anthisi i
Himara
> par oles tis piesis pou iposti apo tous ilithious kai na mathoume
oso
> boroume yia ta simvanta eki.
--- In clubhimara@yahoogroups.com, Kleanthi Dede <himara1@y...>
wrote:
> - Italia njoftoi para disa ditesh se per vitin qe jemi do japi
vetem 3000 viza per shqiptaret nderkohe qe eshte shtet me rreth 90
milion banoresh, ndersa Greqia zyrtarisht ka pranuar 250 mije, po,
po ti shtojme edhe mijera "viza" qe cajne nga ferrat per nje
popullsi 10 miljoneshe kejo do te thote qe Greqia ka qene dhe do te
jete SUPER GOLD per shqiptaret.
>
> Te fala te gjitheve
>
Rregulloji pak shifrat Z. Kleanth.
Itali ka nje popullsi prej 58 milion banoresh, kurse Greqia rreth
10.6 milione.
Por duhet bere dallimi mes Italise e Greqise nga afersia e lehtesia
per tu futur ne keto dy shtete te BE. Sikur te mos kishim det ne mes
Italia do ish permbytur shume me keq nga emigrantet shqiptare.
Greqia nuk eshte vendi i preferuar i shqiptareve por i detyruar.
HALLI TE CON EDHE NE DERE TE HASMIT, thote poppulli.
Qe nga 1997 rreth 200 shqiptare jane mbytur skafeve per te arritur
ne Itali, nderkohe qe nuk dihet se sa jane vrare ne kufirin Shqiperi-
Greqi prej rojeve e policeve greke qe nga 1991.
Para ca kohesh vete Stavri Marko tallej ketu ne klubhimara me
kerkesen e shqiptareve per te paguar nje avokat nderkombetar qe do
nderhynte per abuzimet e dhunimet ndaj shqiptareve ne Greqi. Nuk iu
pergjigja se me vinte ndot, ashtu sic me vjen ndot kur kujtoj se
edhe operacionet per te perzene shqiptaret e paligjshem e te
ligjshem e qe quhen me emrin peshtire FSHESA.
Ne vend qe te merret kaq shume me politiken e madhe a me te renin
nga fiku Tenet, Markua do ndihmonte sikur te na informonte me teper
mbi dhunimet e shpeshta ndaj emigranteve shqiptare qe na kthehen
kufijve nga policia greke e perfundojne spitaleve.
Italia po u jep me teper shprese e respekt shqiptareve permes
programeve te saj, njesoj si Amerika me numrin e madh te shqiptareve
qe pranon permes Llotarise se pervitshme (dv visa llotery)
Zyrtarisht edhe Italia ka mbi 250 000 emigrante shqiptare.
Greqise i duhen argatet shqitare qe po lulezojne fushat e fshatrat
andej, sidomos gjate lojrave Olimpike ku u ofrua pune e madhe
ndertimore, ku parate e Europes e te Greqise u harxhuan pa mase.
Kur ke emigrante ne shtetin tend behesh edhe mendjemadh e nuk i ben
me ato pune qe beje me pare. Mos harrojme gjithashtu se megjithe
namin e keq te shqiptareve ne Greqi, emigrantet (perfshire
shqiptaret) kryejne vetem 1 nga 20 krimet qe ndodhin ne vend.
E KUSH NA QENKERKA SUPERGOLDI I GREQISE, kerkesat e tyre zyrtare per
te cliruar Vorio Epirin?
Shkruani per kete shqeteim Stavro e Kleantha e pastaj ejani e na
tregoni se sa na vlen Greqia.
Kur nje president ben komente te tilla provokuese, ata qe e mbrojne
i shtohen vargut te Kuajve te Trojes.
http://www.mpa.gr/article.html?doc_id=508983
PRESIDENT STEPHANOPOULOS ADDRESSED GREEK EMIGRANTS IN BELGIUM
Athens, 4 February 2005 (16:00 UTC+2)
Hellenic Republic President Kostis Stephanopoulos addressed Greek
emigrants during the last day of his visit to Belgium.
Mr. Stephanopoulos was deeply moved when he referred to his origin
saying that he comes from the Peloponese, Northern Epirus in south
Albania and Cyprus and pointed out that he comes from two still
occupied parts of Greece. He added that Europe is a new united
motherland in which no nationality is lost.
He called on the Greeks to welcome the immigrants arriving in Greece
like the hospitable Belgium did, stressing that there are an
estimated 800,000 foreigners and the Greeks should welcome them with
the same love the Belgians welcomed the Greeks when they emigrated
there.
Upon his arrival at Athens' "Eleftherios Venizelos" International
Airport after completing his visit to Belgium the Olympic Airlines
employees held a special reception ceremony on the occasion of the
fact that this was his last trip abroad as the President of the
Hellenic Republic.
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