Did you work in Baltimore at the LL School?

To: coldwarcomms@yahoogroups.com
From: ozob99@...
Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2012 14:19:53 +0000
Subject: [coldwarcomms] Re: COLDWAR HAMS
































>  First Phone in 1964 as HS sophomore... on first try, after passing

> Second Phone on first try.   Both in FCC office back then, and secret

> exams - no published questions and answers.



Not publically, but actual Q & A's were available surreptitiously(but not
illegally) in a few scenario's;in 1964 I was teaching the LL basic electronics &
radio license preparation courses in DC, and when the guys were sent down the
street to take the 2nd class exam we asked them to try & memorize all the Q &
A's they could and jot them down upon their return; we would then compile all of
them, huddle to agree on the right answer, type them on a stencil, & run them
off on a hand cranked spirit duplicator. These Q & A's, (& several pages of
older ones) were then given to the next class a few days before the exam.



Some of the students had photographic memories & would provide 50 or more Q &
A's.



CREI(Capital Radio Engineering Institute) was doing the same thing, & some our
students would swap feedback Q & A's with guys they knew at that school.I will
admit that the 1st phone & radar license I got was due in part to feedback from
CREI guys.



I suspect Uncle Charlie knew of this due to the higher than normal passing rate(
we had 80% in some classes) from these two schools & changed the Q & A's more
often, but sooner or later the same questions would be there.



There were a few students who got their license without the knowledge

one would need in a radio room, but these guys never got near TD-2,et al.



LL required all tech's in those days to have a 2nd class commercial radio
license, but only a handful would be trained & turned loose on a radio route;
those few had lots of OJT & observation by management,and had to prove their
abilities.


















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On 4/4/12 9:15 PM, charlie Fargis wrote:


> They sent me to basic training in Baltimore. I took the prelim test there.
> They called back to Philly and said he already know what you want us to train
him.
> So they sent me to FCC license school instead.


Reminds me of the time I got sent to a classified course & virtually ended
up teaching it.....

No, at Ambassador Hotel, 14th & K; Old Shoreham Hotel building, 15th St; then
Silver Spring in leased office space.

In 1965 there were a couple of sessions of TD-2 school held in the Geogian Hotel
in Silver Spring, with field trips down the street to the Silver Spring CO;
beats going to the permanent TD-2 school at Fargo ND, especially in winter.





--- In coldwarcomms@yahoogroups.com, charlie Fargis <lackey91@...> wrote:
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> Not publically, but actual Q & A's were available surreptitiously(but not
illegally) in a few scenario's;in 1964 I was teaching the LL basic electronics &
radio license preparation courses in DC, and when the guys were sent down the
street to take the 2nd class exam we asked them to try & memorize all the Q &
A's they could and jot them down upon their return; we would then compile all of
them, huddle to agree on the right answer, type them on a stencil, & run them
off on a hand cranked spirit duplicator. These Q & A's, (& several pages of
older ones) were then given to the next class a few days before the exam.
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students would swap feedback Q & A's with guys they knew at that school.I will
admit that the 1st phone & radar license I got was due in part to feedback from
CREI guys.
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On 4/4/12 9:44 PM, OZOB99 wrote:

> with field trips down the street to the Silver Spring CO; beats going to
> the permanent TD-2 school at Fargo ND, especially in winter.

A monster... I go by it regularly.

What era? What L-L did it have? I know there was TD2 to Clarksville, what
wire/coax facilities do you recall?

Hi! http://pennyroyalraspberry.com/info1/r2.php?gid=12&sid=4 lol

Thursday, 05 April 2012 07:29:34

The first spectrum analyzer I got to play with was at the Mt. Edheri
troposcatter site on the island of Crete - part of 486L MedCom - in 1975.  I
don't remember the model, but I immediately figured out how to set it up to look
at FM carrier dropout at IF while setting the frequency deviation of the
exciters...

The radio Preventive Maintenance (PM) test bay used a mixer, a narrow-band
pick-off filter and a meter to show the level of the carrier...

The maintenance routine called for setting deviation with the PM bay and then
running noise-load V-curves to make sure the intermod noise was within spec. 
Setting deviation - and getting good intermod was a painful process.  I
suspected the PM bay mixer-filter set-up wasn't giving an accurate indication of
the first-carrier drop-out point with the result that the intermod would be out
of spec...

But when I set the deviation with the spectrum analyzer and then checked the
intermod - all three noise slots came in several dB within spec.  Needless to
say, the spectrum analyzer became my friend from that day forward...

We used an HP-530 cavity-type frequency meter to verify the actual transmit
microwave frequency once the crystal oscillator and multiplier-chain was set-up.
The RF output was run through the freq. meter, a 30-dB coupler, to a dummy load.
A power meter was then connected to the 30-dB port with an additional 30-dB pad
(there would be hell to pay if you smoked the bolometer).  You adjusted the
frequency meter for a dip on the power meter, and read the frequency from the
spiral scale:
<http://www.hpmemory.org/news/ed_phillips/hp532_01.htm>

A similar meter was used to verify TD2 transmit frequencies.  It consisted of an
ED59130-90 WR229 waveguide coupler with attached ED59149-90 micrometer-head
tunable cavity, connected to an ED59096-90 WR229 crystal detector.  You adjusted
the micrometer head for a dip in detector current, and then read the frequency
from the calibration chart that was part of the micrometer thimble.  The
calibration chart gave micrometer settings at 10-Mc intervals across the
3700-4200-Mc band.  I have seen one of these but have not experienced the
pleasure of using it to verify an actual TD2 transmit frequency...

BTW the German word Pegelmesser literally means:  Level Meter...

- waw -

--- In coldwarcomms@yahoogroups.com, "Adfrian" <adfrian_rawlings@...> wrote:
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> Dex,
>
> another question ... when did spectrum analysers first come in to general
service. I first used them when I was a design engineer at Racal back in the
'70s. But were they around in the '50s.
>
> And whilst thinking about test kit, how were microwave frequencies measured in
the early days of microwave links? Lecher lines, cavity resonators ...
>
> > So the polaroids are from the screen of spectrum analyser, with each
> > peak representing the spot frequency of each of the units that had
> > been activated by the RCC Command Receiver?
> >
>
> That's correct.
>

On 4/5/12 1:24 AM, widebandit wrote:


> The first spectrum analyzer I got to play with was at the Mt. Edheri
> troposcatter site on the island of Crete - part of 486L MedCom - in
> 1975.  I don't remember the model, but I immediately figured out how to
> set it up to look at FM carrier dropout at IF while setting the
> frequency deviation of the exciters...

I used a bench HP model, somehow 5456 comes to mind; I recall it ended in
6. This was a big kickass unit with very flexible controls; set the center
freq & span; or set upper & lower F....

But it was fragile and not suited to travel even around the building....

The Tek 492 and later/better 494 went many miles with me....

Not very difficult at all. The modern tests for tech and general are 35
questions, while Extra is 50.

You just need to understand electrical theory (not hard for me at all since
that's what I do for a living) and can study the general band plans and
rules/regulations.

I highly suggest the practice tests at QRZ.com.

Dave, KK4GBC


--- In coldwarcomms@yahoogroups.com, "Boardwalk One" <roger.hendrixson@...>
wrote:
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> Dave/KK4GBC,
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> One a scale of 1-10, how much more difficult was the General verses the
Technician's exam?
>
> Roger~
>
> --- In coldwarcomms@yahoogroups.com, "diamond_egroups" <diamond45@> wrote:
> >
> > Dave, KK4GBC
> >
> > (Been listening for years, just got my Technician license in January 2012,
upgraded to General in February)
> >

--- In coldwarcomms@yahoogroups.com, David <wb8foz@...> wrote:
>
> On 4/4/12 9:44 PM, OZOB99 wrote:
>
> > with field trips down the street to the Silver Spring CO; beats going to
> > the permanent TD-2 school at Fargo ND, especially in winter.
>
> A monster... I go by it regularly.
>
> What era? What L-L did it have? I know there was TD2 to Clarksville, what
> wire/coax facilities do you recall?
>

1965; had PSN & private line testboards; TD-2 to Clarksville, a coax tie cable
and voice pairs to Wash 1(like Garden City had to Wash 1).

I thot I recollected a 4A there, but not on the 4A list, so it was probably a
XBT toll switch.

I don't think it was on the L route to Baltimore, but one map shows the
Wash-Balt "G" cable thru there, another does'nt; so I don't know.

If I waste 30$ worth of Gas driving out to Hiram on the way home from work, what
do you want to know.

Two years ago there were LOTs of markers left.

Hiram is a college town with lots of college and HPD security, pick your
questions carefully.

The entrance into the old station is well guarded by its current users.

Steve

On 4/5/12 11:53 AM, lasertower wrote:

> If I waste 30$ worth of Gas driving out to Hiram on the way home from work,
what do you want to know.
>
> Two years ago there were LOTs of markers left.
>
> Hiram is a college town with lots of college and HPD security, pick your
questions carefully.
>
> The entrance into the old station is well guarded by its current users.


Hmmm... I was hoping my buddy would drive by next week. First question is
what do the line markers say? I assume any tent markers are original ones,
and they would tell us the original line designation{s}.

I was going to call the current owner and ask when he had bought it. That
was a suggestion by the Hiram building inspector.

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> I used a bench HP model, somehow 5456 comes to mind;


A friend corrected me; It was a 8565.....

--- In coldwarcomms@yahoogroups.com, "lasertower" <osr@...> wrote:
>
> If I waste 30$ worth of Gas driving out to Hiram on the way home from work,
what do you want to know.
>
> Two years ago there were LOTs of markers left.
>
> Hiram is a college town with lots of college and HPD security, pick your
questions carefully.
>
> The entrance into the old station is well guarded by its current users.

Not to answer for David, but when it comes to L's, I like to find the first one
or two repeaters/vaults in each direction and capture their location and the
signage.  This is a little more work for L4/L5 driving around in the absence of
huts, but this can help with a couple things.  First, repeater spacing will help
confirm what we think we already know (i.e. L4 vs. L5), and second the tent
markers at the repeaters often can be helpful in understanding which way the
count "runs" (counting up or down, and by what math--on parts of the trancon L-4
they counting in twos, i.e. 02, 04, etc. to the middle, then counted down by
twos 146, 144, etc.  I assume this was done to future proof for possible L-5
upgrade so the they could insert the intermediate 1 mile repeaters--maybe I give
them too much credit).

In some cases it's nice to have the tent numbers closest to the main station
(assuming they are truly L tent numbers and not fiber numbers, which I find in
my area to be just a serial but otherwise meaningless number).  They sometimes
can be used to approximate cable distance to/from other points on the route.

/cpe

<http://www.fiercecable.com/story/google-reaches-halfway-mark-new-fiber-huts-kan\
sas-and-missouri/2012-04-04>

Google is building "Fiber Huts" in KC.

On 4/5/12 1:01 PM, cpe122 wrote:


> Not to answer for David, but when it comes to L's, I like to find the
> first one or two repeaters/vaults in each direction and capture their
> location and the signage.  This is a little more work for L4/L5 driving
> around in the absence of huts, but this can help with a couple things.
> First, repeater spacing will help confirm what we think we already know
> (i.e. L4 vs. L5), and second the tent markers at the repeaters often can
> be helpful in understanding which way the count "runs" (counting up or
> down, and by what math--on parts of the trancon L-4 they counting in
> twos, i.e. 02, 04, etc. to the middle, then counted down by twos 146,
> 144, etc.  I assume this was done to future proof for possible L-5
> upgrade so the they could insert the intermediate 1 mile
> repeaters--maybe I give them too much credit).
>
> In some cases it's nice to have the tent numbers closest to the main
> station (assuming they are truly L tent numbers and not fiber numbers,
> which I find in my area to be just a serial but otherwise meaningless
> number).  They sometimes can be used to approximate cable distance
> to/from other points on the route.


We know there is a tent at Rt 82 & the Main's driveway; just can't read it.
I assume that if you enter Hiram from the east, you will see more.

I would like to grok line marker numbering better. I'd assumed they were
distance, not sequence. That was how our pipeline markers went.

And based on my photos at Medina;
<http://www.panix.com/~wb8foz/Medina/medina5.jpg>
<http://www.panix.com/~wb8foz/Medina/medina8.jpg>
<http://www.panix.com/~wb8foz/Medina/medina12.jpg>

....could they be reading in tenth's of miles? But the marker on North
Ridge is E228; and that does not fit at all.


Bigger issue is I see no way to tell what station a "E" marker comes
from....They assumed prior knowledge of that fact...

I have a Google Hut less than a mile from me.  I'm anxiously watching
this project.  Just hope it's affordable.

Bill
Kansas City, KS



David wrote:
>
<http://www.fiercecable.com/story/google-reaches-halfway-mark-new-fiber-huts-kan\
sas-and-missouri/2012-04-04>
>
> Google is building "Fiber Huts" in KC.
>
>
>
>
>

What is the difference between these line markers.All three are from AT&T
Netcong Photos,

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/coldwarcomms/photos/album/215054187/pic/list

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/coldwarcomms/photos/album/215054187/pic/375502862/\
view?picmode=&mode=tn&order=ordinal&start=1&count=20&dir=asc

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/coldwarcomms/photos/album/215054187/pic/1633360492\
/view?picmode=&mode=tn&order=ordinal&start=1&count=20&dir=asc

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/coldwarcomms/photos/album/215054187/pic/697413894/\
view?picmode=&mode=tn&order=ordinal&start=1&count=20&dir=asc


--- In coldwarcomms@yahoogroups.com, David <wb8foz@...> wrote:
>
> On 4/5/12 1:01 PM, cpe122 wrote:
>
>
> > Not to answer for David, but when it comes to L's, I like to find the
> > first one or two repeaters/vaults in each direction and capture their
> > location and the signage.  This is a little more work for L4/L5 driving
> > around in the absence of huts, but this can help with a couple things.
> > First, repeater spacing will help confirm what we think we already know
> > (i.e. L4 vs. L5), and second the tent markers at the repeaters often can
> > be helpful in understanding which way the count "runs" (counting up or
> > down, and by what math--on parts of the trancon L-4 they counting in
> > twos, i.e. 02, 04, etc. to the middle, then counted down by twos 146,
> > 144, etc.  I assume this was done to future proof for possible L-5
> > upgrade so the they could insert the intermediate 1 mile
> > repeaters--maybe I give them too much credit).
> >
> > In some cases it's nice to have the tent numbers closest to the main
> > station (assuming they are truly L tent numbers and not fiber numbers,
> > which I find in my area to be just a serial but otherwise meaningless
> > number).  They sometimes can be used to approximate cable distance
> > to/from other points on the route.
>
>
> We know there is a tent at Rt 82 & the Main's driveway; just can't read it.
> I assume that if you enter Hiram from the east, you will see more.
>
> I would like to grok line marker numbering better. I'd assumed they were
> distance, not sequence. That was how our pipeline markers went.
>
> And based on my photos at Medina;
> <http://www.panix.com/~wb8foz/Medina/medina5.jpg>
> <http://www.panix.com/~wb8foz/Medina/medina8.jpg>
> <http://www.panix.com/~wb8foz/Medina/medina12.jpg>
>
> ....could they be reading in tenth's of miles? But the marker on North
> Ridge is E228; and that does not fit at all.
>
>
> Bigger issue is I see no way to tell what station a "E" marker comes
> from....They assumed prior knowledge of that fact...
>

http://www.dodig.mil/audit/reports/fy96/96-033.pdf

See Appx M & O for a little detail on some of the circuits in the audit.

On Thu, Apr 05, 2012 at 12:39:24PM -0400, David wrote:
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>
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> A friend corrected me; It was a 8565.....

	 If it was big and honking and not portable and 80s era
what comes to mine is the 8566A or 8566B (and that ends in 6).

	 These are VERY popular these days with hams as they are no
longer supported by HP and available on Ebay for $1K-3K.   One of
the best lab SAs ever made.

	 Two boxes linked by cables, and large and VERY heavy however.
Not something to EVER drag to a job site.


--
   Dave Emery N1PRE/AE, die@...  DIE Consulting, Weston, Mass 02493
"An empty zombie mind with a forlorn barely readable weatherbeaten
'For Rent' sign still vainly flapping outside on the weed encrusted pole - in
celebration of what could have been, but wasn't and is not to be now either."

On 4/5/12 4:18 PM, David I. Emery wrote:

>  If it was big and honking and not portable and 80s era
> what comes to mine is the 8566A or 8566B (and that ends in 6).

Yes, that is it...

>  These are VERY popular these days with hams as they are no
> longer supported by HP and available on Ebay for $1K-3K.   One of
> the best lab SAs ever made.
>
>  Two boxes linked by cables, and large and VERY heavy however.
> Not something to EVER drag to a job site.


Oh yes; 2 boxes & cable & as I said, too big to move period.

Even when packed correctly, they did not like flying. The 494 could be
carried on.

On Thu, Apr 05, 2012 at 04:32:07PM -0400, David wrote:

> Oh yes; 2 boxes & cable & as I said, too big to move period.
>
> Even when packed correctly, they did not like flying. The 494 could be
> carried on.

	 Yep, the Tek 492/494 family revolutionized field rf maintainence
and troubleshooting ... for the first time one could have more or less
lab grade accuracy and performance and features in a box (albiet a heavy
mother) that could be carried on airplanes and in the trunks of cars and
survive.   And for those who don't know, the 494 could be ordered with a
quite respectable OCXO and is fully synthesized and capable of counting
microwave frequencies (including that of weak carriers only a few db
over the noise) to 1 Hz resolution and near that accuracy if properly
calibrated.  Thus no need for a microwave counter, and maybe not a SLMS
for measuring pilot tone levels and freqs  in analog muxes either.

	 And HP soon built their equivalent portable series (that are
still very popular and pricey) the 856x family... and the lesser
and cheaper 859xs.   Eventually these more or less pushed Tek out
of the SA business.

	 And eventually too the spooks got a small company called
Electrometrics to build a box that attaches to either a 494 or a HP8560
that actually demodulates and demuxes wideband FM signals turning the
SAs into a tunable FMR.


--
   Dave Emery N1PRE/AE, die@...  DIE Consulting, Weston, Mass 02493
"An empty zombie mind with a forlorn barely readable weatherbeaten
'For Rent' sign still vainly flapping outside on the weed encrusted pole - in
celebration of what could have been, but wasn't and is not to be now either."

--- In coldwarcomms@yahoogroups.com, "Boardwalk One" <roger.hendrixson@...>
wrote:
>
> What is the difference between these line markers.All three are from AT&T
Netcong Photos:

>
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/coldwarcomms/photos/album/215054187/pic/375502862/\
view?picmode=&mode=tn&order=ordinal&start=1&count=20&dir=asc

'Bell System underground marker':

Logo suggests it dates between 1964-1969.  Telephone number suggests that Direct
Distance Dailing was not assume to be universal.  Stock yellow color.


>
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/coldwarcomms/photos/album/215054187/pic/1633360492\
/view?picmode=&mode=tn&order=ordinal&start=1&count=20&dir=asc

'Buried cable marker':

Logo is 1984/post divestiture on bottom tag.  Top tag gives distance and
direction (stamped) as has been the case with high value cables for years. 
Orange, though used before divestiture, took the place of the yellow in many
respects after divestiture.  Probably fiber.


>
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/coldwarcomms/photos/album/215054187/pic/697413894/\
view?picmode=&mode=tn&order=ordinal&start=1&count=20&dir=asc

'IMG_6517':

Has most of the same elements as above.  Also show marker number and tent sign
(with same number).  I dare say this is most likely a sequential marker number
that doesn't mean much of anything.  It certainly isn't 1163 miles, or 1163
repeaters!  I see no obvious signs of renumbering.  If other parts of the
country, only those markers at the repeaters have the tent sign--and then the
tent sign number is the repeater number not the marker number.

/cpe

http://www.phonesarchive.com/videos/tag/bell-labs/orderby-relevance/page1.html

Something for everyone in these 237 pages.

Most back issues from 1984-2009 are online at this site:

http://www.thefreelibrary.com/Communications+News-p2597

in the echo  satcom movie

_http://www.phonesarchive.com/videos/video/sfb8Xekzzz0/Project-Echo-The-Big-
Bounce-1960-Bell-Laboratories-Mylar-Balloon-Satellite.html_
(http://www.phonesarchive.com/videos/video/sfb8Xekzzz0/Project-Echo-The-Big-Boun\
ce-1960-Bell
-Laboratories-Mylar-Balloon-Satellite.html)

note the talk of an iridium  type of  multi low  alt.  sats  with
switching...   gotta love it.

great   footage of  John Pierce too!

In a message dated 4/6/2012 6:10:59 A.M. US Mountain Standard Time,
ozob99@... writes:

_http://www.phonesarchive.com/videos/tag/bell-labs/orderby-relevance/page1.h
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(http://www.phonesarchive.com/videos/tag/bell-labs/orderby-relevance/page1.html)

Something  for everyone in these 237 pages.






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Or:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n0P1JsMTWc0&feature=youtube_gdata_player

Sent from my iPhone

On Apr 6, 2012, at 10:12, COURYHOUSE@... wrote:

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> in the echo  satcom movie
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> _http://www.phonesarchive.com/videos/video/sfb8Xekzzz0/Project-Echo-The-Big-
> Bounce-1960-Bell-Laboratories-Mylar-Balloon-Satellite.html_
>
(http://www.phonesarchive.com/videos/video/sfb8Xekzzz0/Project-Echo-The-Big-Boun\
ce-1960-Bell
> -Laboratories-Mylar-Balloon-Satellite.html)
>
> note the talk of an iridium  type of  multi low  alt.  sats  with
> switching...   gotta love it.
>
> great   footage of  John Pierce too!
>
> In a message dated 4/6/2012 6:10:59 A.M. US Mountain Standard Time,
> ozob99@... writes:
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> _http://www.phonesarchive.com/videos/tag/bell-labs/orderby-relevance/page1.h
> tml_
>
(http://www.phonesarchive.com/videos/tag/bell-labs/orderby-relevance/page1.html)
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> Something  for everyone in these 237 pages.
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> Yahoo! Groups Links
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One of the "Circuits and equipment items terminated during the audit"
(Appendix M, PDF p. 89) was a voice circuit between the LBJ Ranch and
Austin, TX.  I guess by 1995 they were pretty sure Lyndon (and his beloved
Call Director) wouldn't be needing it anymore!  At $829 per month, must have
been one heck of a circuit.



Also, Appendix O (p. 92) cites a voice circuit between Camp David and
Hagerstown, MD.  I wonder if that was the Hagerstown 2 Project Office.



Albert





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Behalf Of OZOB99
Sent: Thursday, April 05, 2012 2:29 PM
To: coldwarcomms@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [coldwarcomms] WHCA Audit Report





http://www.dodig.mil/audit/reports/fy96/96-033.pdf

See Appx M & O for a little detail on some of the circuits in the audit.





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So after fighting a balky GIS, I found that American Tower now owns the
Lillyville TD2, no surprise.

But the L5 Underground across the street is owned by "Loryica
Enterprises..." Looks well kept  up, at least...

Part of a photostream of the National Cryptologic Museum:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/brewbooks/3319809909/in/photostream/

--- In coldwarcomms@yahoogroups.com, "Albert LaFrance" <albert.lafrance@...>
wrote:
>
> One of the "Circuits and equipment items terminated during the audit"
> (Appendix M, PDF p. 89) was a voice circuit between the LBJ Ranch and
> Austin, TX.  I guess by 1995 they were pretty sure Lyndon (and his beloved
> Call Director) wouldn't be needing it anymore!  At $829 per month, must have
> been one heck of a circuit.

I had an uncle who lived in Austin.  He had an early tip-off that
LBJ would not run for re-election.  A friend of his who worked for
the phone company told him about a very large order for communication
support to the LBJ Ranch that had been cancelled.