Or even an HPR igniter ? You might be surprised what a "hand-dipped e-match" would be capable of . . . Some of them contain more material than many of our BP...
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charles russell
crussell51
Oct 1, 2009 1:00 pm
Note Kaplow's "smiley face" at the end of his comments. He was not serious as he referenced a previous thread about dropping motors which is not allowed. It...
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Greg
gpoehlein
Oct 1, 2009 2:34 pm
Ectually - I was replying to John's post - and mine was also intended as somewhat tongue-in-cheek: hence the winking/tongue sticking out smiley a the end :) I...
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borenjohn@...
modelbridges
Oct 1, 2009 2:45 pm
I'm not up to speed on what a smile face may or may not mean at the end of a statement. I take things as they are written. I didn't have any plans on...
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charles russell
crussell51
Oct 1, 2009 2:57 pm
The only reason I responded was to avoid raising the count total. I do not read all of the posts and I was concerned of we would be off on another goose...
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The Competition Conso...
ojames3
Oct 1, 2009 4:02 pm
John, I'm a technical trainer by profesion. Part of that is training folks in using email in the modern office. The short answer is that a smiley face usually...
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Steve Foster
steve72814
Oct 1, 2009 4:25 pm
Just a follow up on those who may still think that you can drop some of the motor pods; since the models will be tracked to ejection - any ejection of the...
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Bob Kaplow
bobkaplow
Oct 1, 2009 4:34 pm
... Right! Just like Trip's 2 staged B altitude flight at NARAM-51 was tracked to the booster ejection rather then the upper stage ejection. Remind me to...
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Steve Foster
steve72814
Oct 1, 2009 4:53 pm
Trip's booster didn't have an ejection event (which is different from a separation event) - it was tumble recovery. And that event allowed for a...
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Eldred Pickett
EldredP
Oct 1, 2009 4:56 pm
... Doesn't the same thing happen on just about every rule MENTIONED here...? Eldred -- There are two seasons in Michigan: Winter and Construction....
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gcgassaway@...
gcgassaway
Oct 1, 2009 5:42 pm
... Just a follow up on those who may still think that you can drop some of the motor pods; since the models will be tracked to ejection - any ejection of the...
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John Boren
modelbridges
Oct 1, 2009 7:48 pm
I've posted some pictures. It's kind of slow at work today so I took a little time to draw up a few possible A-Cluster Designs. Nothing to radical here! I...
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Bob Kaplow
bobkaplow
Oct 1, 2009 7:53 pm
... Are you implying that he modified the A3-4T used in the lower stage to remove the ejection charge? Or are you stating that it's OK for a Cluster Altitude...
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Nerys
nerys71
Oct 1, 2009 7:56 pm
Nudging the piston up 1/2" to 1" before motor ignition. Somehow I don't think a single person who actually competes would care one little bit :-) Chris...
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Ez2cDave@...
ez2cdave
Oct 1, 2009 8:01 pm
That conflicts with the information posted by O Lee James earlier in the thread. Which is correct ? Is there a definitive rule anywhere or is it all subjective...
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Bob Kaplow
bobkaplow
Oct 1, 2009 8:05 pm
... Tom, is this true? Are you making up secret unpublished Pink Book rules again :-) Cluster Altitude clearly prohibits staging, but there is nothing about...
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charles russell
crussell51
Oct 1, 2009 8:35 pm
Bob stated that there isn't anything in the rules about dropping pods. The first sentance of rule 23.3 is: "All motor cases are to be retained in the model". ...
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John Boren
modelbridges
Oct 1, 2009 9:18 pm
Please take a look at the MODEL 6 picture I have posted in the Photos Section. As you can clearly see there are three motors that are still RETAINED in the...
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microspeed972
Oct 1, 2009 9:51 pm
I would interpret "retained in the model" as being retained in the part that is being tracked (if not so far as to say the model itself must remain in one...
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Ez2cDave@...
ez2cdave
Oct 1, 2009 9:53 pm
Of course, the rules do not say that the model must remain in one piece all the way to apogee either. If the motors were contained within a "section" of the...
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TomL
narcbchair
Oct 1, 2009 9:56 pm
... wtf... you sent this to me privately on aol... now here too??? you want more added to the list? check out rule 1.1 check out rule 2.2 check out rule 9.2...
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microspeed972
Oct 1, 2009 9:59 pm
To clarify, has it been determined that strap-ons are admissible, as long as all are, somehow, recovered? I would put model 6 into exactly the same category...
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Bob Kaplow
bobkaplow
Oct 1, 2009 10:02 pm
... I'm not talking about ejecting casings, which is illegal in all events, or ejecting casings with streamers, which is legal in some events, but not in...
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borenjohn@...
modelbridges
Oct 1, 2009 10:06 pm
I believe the debate is still going on whether it's legal or not. My personal preference would be to only need to find on large rocket part then trying to...
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Bob Kaplow
bobkaplow
Oct 1, 2009 10:17 pm
... None of which prohibit a ClAlt model from dropping parts prior to reaching apogee. I'm surprised you haven't added 11.4 to the list yet :-(...
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Bob Kaplow
bobkaplow
Oct 1, 2009 10:29 pm
... If the intent of the rule was that the model had to remain in one piece until ejection, the rule would say that (as the Stupidroc rule does) instead of...
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gcgassaway@...
gcgassaway
Oct 1, 2009 11:13 pm
Here is one aspect of where/how the Cluster Alt rules have a loophole that is closed in a couple of other event types. In Payload, and in Eggloft Alt, the...
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Bob Kaplow
bobkaplow
Oct 1, 2009 11:35 pm
... Or an RCP that says the current rule is the current rule and that other made up rules that are not in the rule book do not actually exist. ... I don't...
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Greg
gpoehlein
Oct 1, 2009 11:46 pm
Alternately, one could also submit an RCP to reword the Cluster Altitude event such that a model breaking into multiple parts is specifically allowed as long...
