mySQL for the win!
I'm a programmer, but the only languages I know are web base languages and
Java... And I don't know if we want to see a java bible program!!

On 11/1/06, Jeffrey Carlton Johnson <johjeff@...> wrote:
>
>   Why not just port it over to MySQL, sqlite, or xbase? There are free
> implementations of all of them that run on Windows as well as other
> platforms. I know it is easy for me to suggest it since I'm not the one
> doing the work, but I think it would put development on a long term, stable,
> and future-proof path.
>
> Peace of Christ be with you all.
>
> Jeff
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: "Houston, Dion A SR 2LT USA FORSCOM"
<dion.houston@...<dion.houston%40us.army.mil>
> >
> To: "eSword@yahoogroups.com <eSword%40yahoogroups.com>" <
> eSword@yahoogroups.com <eSword%40yahoogroups.com>>
> Sent: Tuesday, October 31, 2006 1:57:03 PM
> Subject: RE: [eSword] Re: e-Sword Power
>
> You know, I've just gotten back from Iraq, and I've been lurking here for
> a while and just thought I'd add my .02 USD.
>
> I actually worked on the Jet team when the last version was coded for
> what... Access 2000? Everyone knows the major different between 4.0 and
> 3.5x was a different database format due to UNICODE support. Even back
> then, Microsoft had already decided Jet was going the way of the dinosaur.
> As much as I like Jet personally, Microsoft only does security fixes on it
> now.
>
> Jet doesn't exist on 64-bit windows (it was explicitly stated it would not
> be ported, so it's strongly not likely it ever will). Someone will say that
> 64-bit windows machines run 32-bit apps which is true, but...
>
> Here's my question: will E-Sword remain a Jet app? If so, obviously this
> is going to keep it 32-bit. If not, what's the timeframe for migrating to
> another database engine, and what one will it be?
>
> It seems to me that this is the hook for porting it over to other
> operating systems. If the database code is going to change anyway, then it
> should be possible to make compatible versions at that time. For example, if
> the next "database" format is an XML format, you should be able to use XSLT
> or XQuery on any number of operating systems to query it.
>
> Anyone in the know on this?
>
> Dion
>
> ____________ _________ _________ __
>
> From: eSword@yahoogroups. com On Behalf Of juzme
>
> Sent: Tuesday, October 31, 2006 8:21 AM
>
> To: eSword@yahoogroups. com
>
> Subject: Re: [eSword] Re: e-Sword Power
>
> Computing news items lately from several sources
>
> reporting on trends in Asia, Africa, and South America
>
> indicate to this untrained eye that (mostly for
>
> economic reasons) the majority of people of the world
>
> (hundreds of millions of them) will be introduced to
>
> computers by use of the GNU Linux OS. Therefore, just
>
> as most now in the USA are more familiar with MS
>
> Windows than Linux, the reverse is likely to be true
>
> for most of this earth in future.
>
> Christians are called to spread the Good News and to
>
> turn every tool for use to that end. If wide spread
>
> use of one variety of tool vs. another will more
>
> efficiently bring God's Word to huge numbers of folks
>
> then it seems to me a joyous thing when that efficient
>
> tool is made generally available. All things
>
> considered (especially economic conditions), e-Sword
>
> appears to me to be the best Bible study tool now
>
> available and Linux may well be the predominant OS of
>
> the world in the not too distant future.
>
> I, therefore, pray that, if these things are as they
>
> appear to me, the Lord will soon lead some gifted
>
> person or group to make e-Sword or a clone of it
>
> available with "point and click" ease on the rapidly
>
> improving and easily used desktop distros of Linux.
>
> I, for one, won't be surprised if the gifted one the
>
> Lord leads to accomplish most of this speaks some
>
> Asian, African, etc. dialect instead of my own
>
> language. Nevertheless, some of you who read this
>
> (unlike this old man) are already capable of launching
>
> an effort to bring "e-Sword like" ease and power to
>
> the Linux using Bible student. I also pray God leads
>
> you to weigh your use of talents in this regard.
>
> Just my two cents....
>
> and comments as I've felt led.
>
> God bless you, Juzme
>
> ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ ______
>
> --- Derrick Heathorn <dheathorn@gmail. com<mailto:dheathorn% 40gmail.com>
> > wrote:
>
> Most people have windows.... The average user wouldn't
>
> be able to use Linux....
>
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As far as I'm concerned, using Jet in the first place was a brilliant move.  It
is completely ubiquitous, allows for databases to be accessed simply by opening
a file, and (especially for the time) an extremely fast query processor. 
Especially good is that it requires no elaborate installation procedure.  One
would be hard pressed to find a database system on any platform that is quite so
convenient to use as Jet.

If he were taking suggestions, though, I'd definitely encourage him to switch to
XML.  Querying ability (through XPath/XSLT/XQuery) is fairly ubiquitous.  Files
themselves can go through a simple encryption mechanism similar to the way he
currently protects some modules.  No additional software is required on most
platforms to work with XML Files (MSXML for Windows, .NET Framework for
Windows/PocketPC, Java has XML support natively, etc.) and perf is decent with
modern parsers.

But you know... I wonder why it appears no one ever produced a competitor to JET
for MDB files?  Lots of programs have been able to work with .DOC, .XLS, and
.PPT files for a very long time now...

Dion
________________________________
From: eSword@yahoogroups.com On Behalf Of Ben Krueger
Sent: Tuesday, October 31, 2006 5:29 PM
To: eSword@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [eSword] Re: e-Sword Power


From my dealings with Rick on the Pocket e-Sword tool, I do know that
he is looking at different database backends for his programs. He
wants to find one that works on the Pocket PC environment as well as
the Windows environment. As for which db he's looking into, I'd have
to say that I don't know. I'd assume that he's looking down the road
to other OSs as well.

Some of the databases mentioned are good and multi platform, but if I
remember correctly, there is usually a 'per license' cost to them
which makes it prohibitive for a free tool.

> > Here's my question: will E-Sword remain a Jet app? If so,
> obviously this is going to keep it 32-bit. If not, what's the
> timeframe for migrating to another database engine, and what one will
> it be?
> >
> > It seems to me that this is the hook for porting it over to other
> operating systems....
> >
> > Anyone in the know on this?
> >
> > Dion




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We all appreciate e-Sword, but it is the creation of Rick Meyers, and who has
asked his opionion?  It is just like man to discover the DNA code and then want
to redesign God's creation, thinking to himself, I can do better, with such
pride and arrogance.  Where are our manners?

   Every man of invention stands upon the wisdom of those who went before him. 
If you want to go and make a Bible Program in Linux or port it to some other
system, do it.  But do not mess with Rick's program without his say so.  If I
were him, I would have copyrighted and patented it, I am sure he did.  I do not
believe it is part of Open Archetechiture Program.  I do believe reverse
engineering would be against his rights and illegal.

   So who among you, have asked Rick for his opinion? Might that be the wise
thing to do?  Put the ball in his court, after all, it is his court and ball.

   Dave


Jeffrey Carlton Johnson <johjeff@...> wrote:
           Why not just port it over to MySQL, sqlite, or xbase? There are free
implementations of all of them that run on Windows as well as other platforms. I
know it is easy for me to suggest it since I'm not the one doing the work, but I
think it would put development on a long term, stable, and future-proof path.

Peace of Christ be with you all.

Jeff

----- Original Message ----
From: "Houston, Dion A SR 2LT USA FORSCOM" <dion.houston@...>
To: "eSword@yahoogroups.com" <eSword@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, October 31, 2006 1:57:03 PM
Subject: RE: [eSword] Re: e-Sword Power

You know, I've just gotten back from Iraq, and I've been lurking here for a
while and just thought I'd add my .02 USD.

I actually worked on the Jet team when the last version was coded for what...
Access 2000? Everyone knows the major different between 4.0 and 3.5x was a
different database format due to UNICODE support. Even back then, Microsoft had
already decided Jet was going the way of the dinosaur. As much as I like Jet
personally, Microsoft only does security fixes on it now.

Jet doesn't exist on 64-bit windows (it was explicitly stated it would not be
ported, so it's strongly not likely it ever will). Someone will say that 64-bit
windows machines run 32-bit apps which is true, but...

Here's my question: will E-Sword remain a Jet app? If so, obviously this is
going to keep it 32-bit. If not, what's the timeframe for migrating to another
database engine, and what one will it be?

It seems to me that this is the hook for porting it over to other operating
systems. If the database code is going to change anyway, then it should be
possible to make compatible versions at that time. For example, if the next
"database" format is an XML format, you should be able to use XSLT or XQuery on
any number of operating systems to query it.

Anyone in the know on this?

Dion

____________ _________ _________ __

From: eSword@yahoogroups. com On Behalf Of juzme

Sent: Tuesday, October 31, 2006 8:21 AM

To: eSword@yahoogroups. com

Subject: Re: [eSword] Re: e-Sword Power

Computing news items lately from several sources

reporting on trends in Asia, Africa, and South America

indicate to this untrained eye that (mostly for

economic reasons) the majority of people of the world

(hundreds of millions of them) will be introduced to

computers by use of the GNU Linux OS. Therefore, just

as most now in the USA are more familiar with MS

Windows than Linux, the reverse is likely to be true

for most of this earth in future.

Christians are called to spread the Good News and to

turn every tool for use to that end. If wide spread

use of one variety of tool vs. another will more

efficiently bring God's Word to huge numbers of folks

then it seems to me a joyous thing when that efficient

tool is made generally available. All things

considered (especially economic conditions), e-Sword

appears to me to be the best Bible study tool now

available and Linux may well be the predominant OS of

the world in the not too distant future.

I, therefore, pray that, if these things are as they

appear to me, the Lord will soon lead some gifted

person or group to make e-Sword or a clone of it

available with "point and click" ease on the rapidly

improving and easily used desktop distros of Linux.

I, for one, won't be surprised if the gifted one the

Lord leads to accomplish most of this speaks some

Asian, African, etc. dialect instead of my own

language. Nevertheless, some of you who read this

(unlike this old man) are already capable of launching

an effort to bring "e-Sword like" ease and power to

the Linux using Bible student. I also pray God leads

you to weigh your use of talents in this regard.

Just my two cents....

and comments as I've felt led.

God bless you, Juzme

____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ ______

--- Derrick Heathorn <dheathorn@gmail. com<mailto:dheathorn% 40gmail.com> >
wrote:

Most people have windows.... The average user wouldn't

be able to use Linux....

____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _

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We all appreciate e-Sword, but it is the creation of Rick Meyers, and who has
asked his opionion?  It is just like man to discover the DNA code and then want
to redesign God's creation, thinking to himself, I can do better, with such
pride and arrogance.  Where are our manners?

   Every man of invention stands upon the wisdom of those who went before him. 
If you want to go and make a Bible Program in Linux or port it to some other
system, do it.  But do not mess with Rick's program without his say so.  If I
were him, I would have copyrighted and patented it, I am sure he did.  I do not
believe it is part of Open Archetechiture Program.  I do believe reverse
engineering would be against his rights and illegal.

   So who among you, have asked Rick for his opinion? Might that be the wise
thing to do?

   Dave


Jeffrey Carlton Johnson <johjeff@...> wrote:
           Why not just port it over to MySQL, sqlite, or xbase? There are free
implementations of all of them that run on Windows as well as other platforms. I
know it is easy for me to suggest it since I'm not the one doing the work, but I
think it would put development on a long term, stable, and future-proof path.

Peace of Christ be with you all.

Jeff

----- Original Message ----
From: "Houston, Dion A SR 2LT USA FORSCOM" <dion.houston@...>
To: "eSword@yahoogroups.com" <eSword@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, October 31, 2006 1:57:03 PM
Subject: RE: [eSword] Re: e-Sword Power

You know, I've just gotten back from Iraq, and I've been lurking here for a
while and just thought I'd add my .02 USD.

I actually worked on the Jet team when the last version was coded for what...
Access 2000? Everyone knows the major different between 4.0 and 3.5x was a
different database format due to UNICODE support. Even back then, Microsoft had
already decided Jet was going the way of the dinosaur. As much as I like Jet
personally, Microsoft only does security fixes on it now.

Jet doesn't exist on 64-bit windows (it was explicitly stated it would not be
ported, so it's strongly not likely it ever will). Someone will say that 64-bit
windows machines run 32-bit apps which is true, but...

Here's my question: will E-Sword remain a Jet app? If so, obviously this is
going to keep it 32-bit. If not, what's the timeframe for migrating to another
database engine, and what one will it be?

It seems to me that this is the hook for porting it over to other operating
systems. If the database code is going to change anyway, then it should be
possible to make compatible versions at that time. For example, if the next
"database" format is an XML format, you should be able to use XSLT or XQuery on
any number of operating systems to query it.

Anyone in the know on this?

Dion

____________ _________ _________ __

From: eSword@yahoogroups. com On Behalf Of juzme

Sent: Tuesday, October 31, 2006 8:21 AM

To: eSword@yahoogroups. com

Subject: Re: [eSword] Re: e-Sword Power

Computing news items lately from several sources

reporting on trends in Asia, Africa, and South America

indicate to this untrained eye that (mostly for

economic reasons) the majority of people of the world

(hundreds of millions of them) will be introduced to

computers by use of the GNU Linux OS. Therefore, just

as most now in the USA are more familiar with MS

Windows than Linux, the reverse is likely to be true

for most of this earth in future.

Christians are called to spread the Good News and to

turn every tool for use to that end. If wide spread

use of one variety of tool vs. another will more

efficiently bring God's Word to huge numbers of folks

then it seems to me a joyous thing when that efficient

tool is made generally available. All things

considered (especially economic conditions), e-Sword

appears to me to be the best Bible study tool now

available and Linux may well be the predominant OS of

the world in the not too distant future.

I, therefore, pray that, if these things are as they

appear to me, the Lord will soon lead some gifted

person or group to make e-Sword or a clone of it

available with "point and click" ease on the rapidly

improving and easily used desktop distros of Linux.

I, for one, won't be surprised if the gifted one the

Lord leads to accomplish most of this speaks some

Asian, African, etc. dialect instead of my own

language. Nevertheless, some of you who read this

(unlike this old man) are already capable of launching

an effort to bring "e-Sword like" ease and power to

the Linux using Bible student. I also pray God leads

you to weigh your use of talents in this regard.

Just my two cents....

and comments as I've felt led.

God bless you, Juzme

____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ ______

--- Derrick Heathorn <dheathorn@gmail. com<mailto:dheathorn% 40gmail.com> >
wrote:

Most people have windows.... The average user wouldn't

be able to use Linux....

____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _

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John 3:16, Ephesians 2:8-9, Romans 6:13-14
Sola Scriptura, Sola Gratia, Sola Fide,
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Yes,

Let's use something that obsoletes all the previous code written as well as some
of us old programmers...

©¿©

Mike Sr.

BTW FWIW when you demand infinate upgrades and changes you are doing exactly
what everyone has been complaining about Microsoft's heavy handed forced
upgrades...



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I would like to call us to remember that there are many Evangelists, Pastors and
Preachers who are not very adept at computer programing or even loading
programs.  With that said it is good to have a simple, powerful, and easy to use
Bible program that allows us to get on with the job at hand... Preaching and
teaching the Good News of Jesus.  For this I am in great debt to e-Sword and the
developers of all the hundreds, possible even thousands of great materials that
make my day to day task easier and less complicated.  I enjoy plinking around
with the computer but there comes a time when work, that four letter dirty word
must be completed.  That is when it is comforting to be able to turn to e-Sword
and say "Praise the Lord for e-Sword and Rick."

Blessings

Carl Harris
902 N. 15th St.
Collinsville, OK 74021
carl-harris@...











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I haven't, but on the same time I'm not planning to create anything or do
any reverse engineering :)

On 11/1/06, David Harvey <davidharvey13th@...> wrote:
>
>   We all appreciate e-Sword, but it is the creation of Rick Meyers, and
> who has asked his opionion? It is just like man to discover the DNA code and
> then want to redesign God's creation, thinking to himself, I can do better,
> with such pride and arrogance. Where are our manners?
>
> Every man of invention stands upon the wisdom of those who went before
> him. If you want to go and make a Bible Program in Linux or port it to some
> other system, do it. But do not mess with Rick's program without his say so.
> If I were him, I would have copyrighted and patented it, I am sure he did. I
> do not believe it is part of Open Archetechiture Program. I do believe
> reverse engineering would be against his rights and illegal.
>
> So who among you, have asked Rick for his opinion? Might that be the wise
> thing to do? Put the ball in his court, after all, it is his court and ball.
>
> Dave
>
>
> Jeffrey Carlton Johnson <johjeff@... <johjeff%40yahoo.com>> wrote:
> Why not just port it over to MySQL, sqlite, or xbase? There are free
> implementations of all of them that run on Windows as well as other
> platforms. I know it is easy for me to suggest it since I'm not the one
> doing the work, but I think it would put development on a long term, stable,
> and future-proof path.
>
> Peace of Christ be with you all.
>
> Jeff
>
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: "Houston, Dion A SR 2LT USA FORSCOM"
<dion.houston@...<dion.houston%40us.army.mil>
> >
> To: "eSword@yahoogroups.com <eSword%40yahoogroups.com>" <
> eSword@yahoogroups.com <eSword%40yahoogroups.com>>
> Sent: Tuesday, October 31, 2006 1:57:03 PM
> Subject: RE: [eSword] Re: e-Sword Power
>
> You know, I've just gotten back from Iraq, and I've been lurking here for
> a while and just thought I'd add my .02 USD.
>
> I actually worked on the Jet team when the last version was coded for
> what... Access 2000? Everyone knows the major different between 4.0 and
> 3.5x was a different database format due to UNICODE support. Even back
> then, Microsoft had already decided Jet was going the way of the dinosaur.
> As much as I like Jet personally, Microsoft only does security fixes on it
> now.
>
> Jet doesn't exist on 64-bit windows (it was explicitly stated it would not
> be ported, so it's strongly not likely it ever will). Someone will say that
> 64-bit windows machines run 32-bit apps which is true, but...
>
> Here's my question: will E-Sword remain a Jet app? If so, obviously this
> is going to keep it 32-bit. If not, what's the timeframe for migrating to
> another database engine, and what one will it be?
>
> It seems to me that this is the hook for porting it over to other
> operating systems. If the database code is going to change anyway, then it
> should be possible to make compatible versions at that time. For example, if
> the next "database" format is an XML format, you should be able to use XSLT
> or XQuery on any number of operating systems to query it.
>
> Anyone in the know on this?
>
> Dion
>
> ____________ _________ _________ __
>
> From: eSword@yahoogroups. com On Behalf Of juzme
>
> Sent: Tuesday, October 31, 2006 8:21 AM
>
> To: eSword@yahoogroups. com
>
> Subject: Re: [eSword] Re: e-Sword Power
>
> Computing news items lately from several sources
>
> reporting on trends in Asia, Africa, and South America
>
> indicate to this untrained eye that (mostly for
>
> economic reasons) the majority of people of the world
>
> (hundreds of millions of them) will be introduced to
>
> computers by use of the GNU Linux OS. Therefore, just
>
> as most now in the USA are more familiar with MS
>
> Windows than Linux, the reverse is likely to be true
>
> for most of this earth in future.
>
> Christians are called to spread the Good News and to
>
> turn every tool for use to that end. If wide spread
>
> use of one variety of tool vs. another will more
>
> efficiently bring God's Word to huge numbers of folks
>
> then it seems to me a joyous thing when that efficient
>
> tool is made generally available. All things
>
> considered (especially economic conditions), e-Sword
>
> appears to me to be the best Bible study tool now
>
> available and Linux may well be the predominant OS of
>
> the world in the not too distant future.
>
> I, therefore, pray that, if these things are as they
>
> appear to me, the Lord will soon lead some gifted
>
> person or group to make e-Sword or a clone of it
>
> available with "point and click" ease on the rapidly
>
> improving and easily used desktop distros of Linux.
>
> I, for one, won't be surprised if the gifted one the
>
> Lord leads to accomplish most of this speaks some
>
> Asian, African, etc. dialect instead of my own
>
> language. Nevertheless, some of you who read this
>
> (unlike this old man) are already capable of launching
>
> an effort to bring "e-Sword like" ease and power to
>
> the Linux using Bible student. I also pray God leads
>
> you to weigh your use of talents in this regard.
>
> Just my two cents....
>
> and comments as I've felt led.
>
> God bless you, Juzme
>
> ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ ______
>
> --- Derrick Heathorn <dheathorn@gmail. com<mailto:dheathorn% 40gmail.com>
> > wrote:
>
> Most people have windows.... The average user wouldn't
>
> be able to use Linux....
>
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With mySQL, don't you then have to have a mySQL server installed to be able
to use it?

On 11/1/06, Jeffrey Carlton Johnson <johjeff@...> wrote:
>
>   If Rick doesn't want to use one of the previously mentioned engines,
> postgresql is BSD licensed, so no code has to be returned to the community
> and it can be used in any commercial product without paying a dime in
> royalties or right to use fee's. Also, I think MySQL is dual or tri licensed
> depending on what you want to do with it. Sort of like the QT toolkit.
>
> Peace of Christ be with you.
>
> Jeff
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: "jblake@... <jblake%40eskimo.com>"
<jblake@...<jblake%40eskimo.com>
> >
> To: eSword@yahoogroups.com <eSword%40yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, October 31, 2006 10:22:14 PM
> Subject: [eSword] Porting e-Sword (was: e-Sword Power )
>
> Jeff wrote:
>
> > Why not just port it over to MySQL, sqlite, or xbase?
>
> The simple answer is licence issues.
>
> I don't remember which licences each of them use, but they all are
>
> FLOSS. If incorporated into a future version of e-Sword, then e-Sword
>
> would also have to be a FLOSS program. I'm not sure that Rick is
>
> currently willing to go down that garden path.
>
> FWIW, e-Sword is the only reason I use Win2K. Other than anti-maleware,
>
> e-Sword, e-Sword Utility Programs, and Win2K, I only use FLOSS programs.
>
> > but I think it would put development on a long term, stable, and
> future-proof path.
>
> e-Sword is probably the most "future proof" of the current Bible Study
>
> Programs. The Sword Project might be on a para, because it is FLOSS,
>
> and e-Sword is not.
>
> Dion wrote:
>
> > Even back then, Microsoft had already decided Jet was going the way
>
> of the dinosaur.
>
> I didn't realize that they were trying to kill it that far back. I did
>
> know that historically, every time they publicly state that they will no
>
> longer offer any support for it, a hue and cry arises from their
>
> corporate customers.
>
> > Here's my question: will E-Sword remain a Jet app?
>
> Good question. I don't know the answer to that.
>
> a) The Jet database engine is the only part of e-Sword that Microsoft
>
> still offers support for. With the changes that Windows Vista makes, it
>
> almost makes sense to do a complete rewrite of e-Sword, for that platform.
>
> b i) I've heard that Rick is looking for a more platform independent
>
> data base engine. [So that Pocket e-Sword, and e-Sword can share the
>
> same resources.]
>
> b ii) On the flip side, the "natural" migration path is to SQL Server.
>
> > If not, what's the timeframe for migrating to another database
>
> engine, and what one will it be?
>
> Don't know. But I wouldn't be surprised if the next version of e-Sword
>
> is released after Windows Vista is released.
>
> > It seems to me that this is the hook for porting it over to other
> operating systems.
>
> It is theoretically possible to write a program for Linux, that can open
>
> existing e-Sword modules. Rick would probably be very unhappy if such a
>
> program was released. [Use MDBTools to open e-Sword resources.]
>
> > then it should be possible to make compatible versions at that time.
>
> This also assumes that Rick has the time, and patience to run a bug test
>
> on two or more platforms. [If he ports it to Linux, he would almost have
>
> to also port it to Mac OS X. If he does those two, then BSD is the next
>
> logical operating system.]
>
> > For example, if the next "database" format is an XML format,
>
> If future proofing is an issue, then it should adhere to the ISO File
>
> Format for Documents. I'm not aware of any current implementations that
>
> use a BSD style licence.
>
> > you should be able to use XSLT or XQuery on any number of operating
> systems to query it.
>
> True.
>
> > Anyone in the know on this?
>
> The Sword Project currently offers three Bible study programs for Linux,
>
> that are similar to e-Sword.
>
> Heather wrote:
>
> If somebody has a11y needs, Linux provides a much friendly environment
>
> than windows does. I'll grant that Linux a11y tools are slightly
>
> rougher than the commercial a11y offerings for windows, but not by much.
>
> [Speech input probably has the most significant lag.]
>
> xan
>
> jonathon
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Dave,

	 I know it has been brought up before, and even asked of Rick to port
e-Sword to Linux.  It was explained (as I remember) that it would be too
much work, and a completely different computer language to learn.  (This
is perfectly understandable as I don't even know one computer language!)
We are not trying to il-legally port e-Sword to Linux.  And secondly if
we were able to write a program similar to e-Sword, we wouldn't be
talking about doing these things, we would do them!  The fact of the
matter is, at least for me, is that we are not able to make a program
like e-Sword, or we would not be here using e-Sword.  Also, I'm about
99% sure that e-Sword is copyrighted. There would be nothing il-legal to
someone making a Bible Program for Linux, that would be similar to
e-Sword (at least to my knowledge) - I'm not talking about stealing
source code.  I'm not even saying make a program that could use
e-Sword's resources, just a program that would be similar in look and
feel.  IF someone could work with Rick and produce a Linux version that
could use the resources (with permission) that would be absolutely
great, and Rick would still maintain the ownership, rights etc.  These
are just ideas, thoughts floating around, for those of us that have
started or have been using Linux.  No one is suggesting to steal e-Sword
and re-manufacture it.  If they are and do, May God judge them swiftly!
Stealing is a crime and SIN!  Many of the modules in e-Sword have been
user created/submitted, so they could be re-created, and used elsewhere
by another program.  E-Sword is so large because of the ability of the
community to add to it in a very easy fashion, this whether you know it
or not is the basis of Open Source, and Linux - a large user based
community that is able to enhance and add to the main stream.

Shane



On Wed, 2006-11-01 at 04:06 -0800, David Harvey wrote:
> We all appreciate e-Sword, but it is the creation of Rick Meyers, and
> who has asked his opionion? It is just like man to discover the DNA
> code and then want to redesign God's creation, thinking to himself, I
> can do better, with such pride and arrogance. Where are our manners?
>
> Every man of invention stands upon the wisdom of those who went before
> him. If you want to go and make a Bible Program in Linux or port it to
> some other system, do it. But do not mess with Rick's program without
> his say so. If I were him, I would have copyrighted and patented it, I
> am sure he did. I do not believe it is part of Open Archetechiture
> Program. I do believe reverse engineering would be against his rights
> and illegal.
>
> So who among you, have asked Rick for his opinion? Might that be the
> wise thing to do?
>
> Dave
>
>
> Jeffrey Carlton Johnson <johjeff@...> wrote:
> Why not just port it over to MySQL, sqlite, or xbase? There are free
> implementations of all of them that run on Windows as well as other
> platforms. I know it is easy for me to suggest it since I'm not the
> one doing the work, but I think it would put development on a long
> term, stable, and future-proof path.
>
> Peace of Christ be with you all.
>
> Jeff
>
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: "Houston, Dion A SR 2LT USA FORSCOM" <dion.houston@...>
> To: "eSword@yahoogroups.com" <eSword@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, October 31, 2006 1:57:03 PM
> Subject: RE: [eSword] Re: e-Sword Power
>
> You know, I've just gotten back from Iraq, and I've been lurking here
> for a while and just thought I'd add my .02 USD.
>
> I actually worked on the Jet team when the last version was coded for
> what... Access 2000? Everyone knows the major different between 4.0
> and 3.5x was a different database format due to UNICODE support. Even
> back then, Microsoft had already decided Jet was going the way of the
> dinosaur. As much as I like Jet personally, Microsoft only does
> security fixes on it now.
>
> Jet doesn't exist on 64-bit windows (it was explicitly stated it would
> not be ported, so it's strongly not likely it ever will). Someone will
> say that 64-bit windows machines run 32-bit apps which is true, but...
>
> Here's my question: will E-Sword remain a Jet app? If so, obviously
> this is going to keep it 32-bit. If not, what's the timeframe for
> migrating to another database engine, and what one will it be?
>
> It seems to me that this is the hook for porting it over to other
> operating systems. If the database code is going to change anyway,
> then it should be possible to make compatible versions at that time.
> For example, if the next "database" format is an XML format, you
> should be able to use XSLT or XQuery on any number of operating
> systems to query it.
>
> Anyone in the know on this?
>
> Dion
>
> ____________ _________ _________ __
>
> From: eSword@yahoogroups. com On Behalf Of juzme
>
> Sent: Tuesday, October 31, 2006 8:21 AM
>
> To: eSword@yahoogroups. com
>
> Subject: Re: [eSword] Re: e-Sword Power
>
> Computing news items lately from several sources
>
> reporting on trends in Asia, Africa, and South America
>
> indicate to this untrained eye that (mostly for
>
> economic reasons) the majority of people of the world
>
> (hundreds of millions of them) will be introduced to
>
> computers by use of the GNU Linux OS. Therefore, just
>
> as most now in the USA are more familiar with MS
>
> Windows than Linux, the reverse is likely to be true
>
> for most of this earth in future.
>
> Christians are called to spread the Good News and to
>
> turn every tool for use to that end. If wide spread
>
> use of one variety of tool vs. another will more
>
> efficiently bring God's Word to huge numbers of folks
>
> then it seems to me a joyous thing when that efficient
>
> tool is made generally available. All things
>
> considered (especially economic conditions), e-Sword
>
> appears to me to be the best Bible study tool now
>
> available and Linux may well be the predominant OS of
>
> the world in the not too distant future.
>
> I, therefore, pray that, if these things are as they
>
> appear to me, the Lord will soon lead some gifted
>
> person or group to make e-Sword or a clone of it
>
> available with "point and click" ease on the rapidly
>
> improving and easily used desktop distros of Linux.
>
> I, for one, won't be surprised if the gifted one the
>
> Lord leads to accomplish most of this speaks some
>
> Asian, African, etc. dialect instead of my own
>
> language. Nevertheless, some of you who read this
>
> (unlike this old man) are already capable of launching
>
> an effort to bring "e-Sword like" ease and power to
>
> the Linux using Bible student. I also pray God leads
>
> you to weigh your use of talents in this regard.
>
> Just my two cents....
>
> and comments as I've felt led.
>
> God bless you, Juzme
>
> ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ ______
>
> --- Derrick Heathorn <dheathorn@gmail. com<mailto:dheathorn%
> 40gmail.com> > wrote:
>
> Most people have windows.... The average user wouldn't
>
> be able to use Linux....
>
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you can run mySQL from your personal machine without a server.

bob


----- Original Message ----
From: Derrick Heathorn <dheathorn@...>
To: eSword@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, November 1, 2006 4:58:20 AM
Subject: Re: [eSword] Porting e-Sword (was: e-Sword Power )













             With mySQL, don't you then have to have a mySQL server installed to
be able

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The following eSword poll is now closed.  Here are the
final results:


POLL QUESTION: What operating system do you run e-Sword on?
If you run it on two or more operating systems, list your primary system.

CHOICES AND RESULTS
- Windows Vista Beta / Release Candidate, 2 votes, 1.07%
- Windows XP Professional, 74 votes, 39.57%
- Windows XP Home, 83 votes, 44.39%
- Windows 2000 Professional, 12 votes, 6.42%
- Windows ME, 0 votes, 0.00%
- Windows 98 SE, 4 votes, 2.14%
- Windows 98, 0 votes, 0.00%
- windows 95, 0 votes, 0.00%
- Windows NT 4.0, 0 votes, 0.00%
- Windows NT 3.5, 0 votes, 0.00%
- OS/2  Warp 6.0, 0 votes, 0.00%
- OS/2  Warp 5.0, 0 votes, 0.00%
- OS/.2 Warp 4.0, 0 votes, 0.00%
- OS/2 Warp 3.0, 0 votes, 0.00%
- React OS, 0 votes, 0.00%
- Mac System 9.5 (or lower), 0 votes, 0.00%
- MAC OS X 10 ( or higher), 2 votes, 1.07%
- MAC OS X for PC Intel, 3 votes, 1.60%
- BeOS, 0 votes, 0.00%
- BSD, 0 votes, 0.00%
- Linux , 4 votes, 2.14%
- Solaris, 0 votes, 0.00%
- Unix, 0 votes, 0.00%
- Other Operating System.  (Please email me with the one you use), 3 votes,
1.60%



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Evangelists, Pastors and Preachers who are not very adept at
computer programing or even loading programs.  With that said it is
good to have a simple, powerful, and easy to use Bible program that
allows us to get on with the job at hand... Preaching and teaching
the Good News of Jesus.  For this I am in great debt to e-Sword and
the developers of all the hundreds, possible even thousands of great
materials that make my day to day task easier and less complicated.
I enjoy plinking around with the computer but there comes a time
when work, that four letter dirty word must be completed.  That is
when it is comforting to be able to turn to e-Sword and say "Praise
the Lord for e-Sword and Rick."
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> Blessings
>
> Carl Harris
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Dion wrote:

> But you know... I wonder why it appears no one ever produced a competitor to
JET for MDB files?

Jet/MDB has a couple of technical flaws in it.  The most significant
is that it doesn't scale very well. The second one is that it doesn't
do SQL.

One other issue is that it, like most of the other microsoft file
formats, is closed & proprietary.

xan

jonathon
--
Ethical conduct is a vice.
Corrupt conduct is a virtue.

Motto of Nacarima.

> Jet/MDB has a couple of technical flaws in it. [snip] The second one
> is that it doesn't do SQL.

I must be misunderstanding what you are trying to emphasize, Jonathon.

In my experience, once an MS Access DB file is opened with ADO, DAO,
or ODBC, SQL calls can be used for all sorts of specific tasks.

Fred

jet does sql and since when does microsoft's propritary's file system ever stop
someone from writing a program that will access it? :))

bob


----- Original Message ----
From: Jonathon Blake <jonathon.blake@...>
To: eSword@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, November 1, 2006 11:28:51 AM
Subject: Re: [eSword] Re: e-Sword Power













             Dion wrote:



> But you know... I wonder why it appears no one ever produced a competitor to
JET for MDB files?



Jet/MDB has a couple of technical flaws in it.  The most significant

is that it doesn't scale very well. The second one is that it doesn't

do SQL.



One other issue is that it, like most of the other microsoft file

formats, is closed & proprietary.



xan



jonathon









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That brought a smile to my face :)

JetSQL is a subset and slightly different language than standard ANSI SQL.  Jet
since 4.0 has worked with standard ANSI-97 SQL though (by default through ADO).

That's neither here nor there, though... The question isn't whether Jet should
be used or not.  Rick's already made that call.

It just seems funny to me that even though Jet databases have been in constant
use by the industry for a long time that no one has made a competing engine that
works with the file format.  Yes it's proprietary, but I'm sure someone could
figure it out...

Dion
________________________________
From: eSword@yahoogroups.com On Behalf Of Robert Lawrence
Sent: Wednesday, November 01, 2006 3:11 PM
To: eSword@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [eSword] Re: e-Sword Power


jet does sql and since when does microsoft's propritary's file system ever stop
someone from writing a program that will access it? :))

bob


----- Original Message ----
From: Jonathon Blake
<jonathon.blake@...<mailto:jonathon.blake%40gmail.com>>
To: eSword@yahoogroups.com<mailto:eSword%40yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, November 1, 2006 11:28:51 AM
Subject: Re: [eSword] Re: e-Sword Power

Dion wrote:

> But you know... I wonder why it appears no one ever produced a competitor to
JET for MDB files?

Jet/MDB has a couple of technical flaws in it. The most significant

is that it doesn't scale very well. The second one is that it doesn't

do SQL.

One other issue is that it, like most of the other microsoft file

formats, is closed & proprietary.

xan

jonathon

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Never mind... I'm an idiot :)

http://www.kexi-project.org/wiki/wikiview/index.php?MDBDriver

Dion
________________________________
From: eSword@yahoogroups.com On Behalf Of Robert Lawrence
Sent: Wednesday, November 01, 2006 3:11 PM
To: eSword@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [eSword] Re: e-Sword Power


jet does sql and since when does microsoft's propritary's file system ever stop
someone from writing a program that will access it? :))

bob


----- Original Message ----
From: Jonathon Blake
<jonathon.blake@...<mailto:jonathon.blake%40gmail.com>>
To: eSword@yahoogroups.com<mailto:eSword%40yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, November 1, 2006 11:28:51 AM
Subject: Re: [eSword] Re: e-Sword Power

Dion wrote:

> But you know... I wonder why it appears no one ever produced a competitor to
JET for MDB files?

Jet/MDB has a couple of technical flaws in it. The most significant

is that it doesn't scale very well. The second one is that it doesn't

do SQL.

One other issue is that it, like most of the other microsoft file

formats, is closed & proprietary.

xan

jonathon

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Really? well there you go lol. Mind sharing how?

On 11/2/06, Robert Lawrence <robs_teresas@...> wrote:
>
>   you can run mySQL from your personal machine without a server.
>
> bob
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: Derrick Heathorn <dheathorn@... <dheathorn%40gmail.com>>
> To: eSword@yahoogroups.com <eSword%40yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, November 1, 2006 4:58:20 AM
> Subject: Re: [eSword] Porting e-Sword (was: e-Sword Power )
>
> With mySQL, don't you then have to have a mySQL server installed to be
> able
>
> to use it?
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>


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you set your pc up as a server to itself. the same thing is done in oracle, etc.


----- Original Message ----
From: Derrick Heathorn <dheathorn@...>
To: eSword@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, November 1, 2006 5:48:28 PM
Subject: Re: [eSword] Porting e-Sword (was: e-Sword Power )













             Really? well there you go lol. Mind sharing how?











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Hey Xan, or anyone,
In a previous post, I was directed to the following program, Portable e-
sword. This is what happens when I attempt to open (run) "portable e-
sword," I get the error message, "Could not register RichEdit.OCX!" Can
anyone help with this? Thanks in advance.

"Eagle" (Keith)

Check out www.codebase.com.  I worked for them a long time ago and
they produce a C/C++ library that does xBASE and Access files as well.
  I think that they've also got .NET and ADO, etc.

> It just seems funny to me that even though Jet databases have been
in constant use by the industry for a long time that no one has made a
competing engine that works with the file format.  Yes it's
proprietary, but I'm sure someone could figure it out...
>

Must be nice to be a "Geek"...

I have been playing Computer Nerd for decades and *still* don't know how to run
MYsql on my own PC...

Set up as a server...

Sounds simple...

But, I haven't found a single write-up that *I* understand...

So, please, write us a little step by step...

Thanks!

Mike Sr.


   ----- Original Message -----
   From: Robert Lawrence
   To: eSword@yahoogroups.com
   Sent: Thursday, November 02, 2006 12:35 AM
   Subject: Re: [eSword] Porting e-Sword (was: e-Sword Power )


   you set your pc up as a server to itself. the same thing is done in oracle,
etc.

   ----- Original Message ----
   From: Derrick Heathorn <dheathorn@...>
   To: eSword@yahoogroups.com
   Sent: Wednesday, November 1, 2006 5:48:28 PM
   Subject: Re: [eSword] Porting e-Sword (was: e-Sword Power )

   Really? well there you go lol. Mind sharing how?

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Unfortunately,

     AFAIK, there are some *required* entries in the Registry for e-Sword to work
correctly...

     If the machine you are trying to go Portable on doesn't allow you to write
to the VB part of the registry...

     Then you are out of luck...

     If Rick would add a Command Line switch to use a local (.ini) style file
then Portable would be more broad ranged and viable...

     If VB6 runtime and DAO360, etc., are not already installed then you're out
of luck anyway as, AFAIK, they do require registry writes to be installed...

     I'd love to use it at work... But, they have us so locked down....

     That's why when I write code I assume that certain things are already
installed and I do not write to the registry at all in my code...

     Too many IT security geeks think that *any* access to the registry by a user
or their programs is too much of a risk!

     That's why I can't even clean up the desktop on the PC I am *priviledged*(?)
to use at work!

     (Hey at least they *now* allow it to come up with "NumLock" on!)

     regards,

Mike Sr.


   ----- Original Message -----
   From: baldeagleone_99
   To: eSword@yahoogroups.com
   Sent: Wednesday, November 01, 2006 11:43 PM
   Subject: [eSword] Portable e-sword


   Hey Xan, or anyone,
   In a previous post, I was directed to the following program, Portable e-
   sword. This is what happens when I attempt to open (run) "portable e-
   sword," I get the error message, "Could not register RichEdit.OCX!" Can
   anyone help with this? Thanks in advance.

   "Eagle" (Keith)





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I am no longer making my esnips folder available due to the message
I received from esnips.

This is the message:

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Here is one site you might want to check and see about making your
own modules.
http://www.biblecentre.net/


God bless
James

portable e-sword? Do you mean pocket e-sword?

On 11/2/06, baldeagleone_99 <baldeagleone_99@...> wrote:
>
>   Hey Xan, or anyone,
> In a previous post, I was directed to the following program, Portable e-
> sword. This is what happens when I attempt to open (run) "portable e-
> sword," I get the error message, "Could not register RichEdit.OCX!" Can
> anyone help with this? Thanks in advance.
>
> "Eagle" (Keith)
>
>
>


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... but surely you still need to install software..

On 11/2/06, Robert Lawrence <robs_teresas@...> wrote:
>
>   you set your pc up as a server to itself. the same thing is done in
> oracle, etc.
>
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: Derrick Heathorn <dheathorn@... <dheathorn%40gmail.com>>
> To: eSword@yahoogroups.com <eSword%40yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, November 1, 2006 5:48:28 PM
> Subject: Re: [eSword] Porting e-Sword (was: e-Sword Power )
>
> Really? well there you go lol. Mind sharing how?
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>


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Firstly, what OS are you using? Also, do you just want mySQL or do you want
Apache (a web server installed) as well?

On 11/2/06, the_Real_SMM <spiritualmadman@...> wrote:
>
>   Must be nice to be a "Geek"...
>
> I have been playing Computer Nerd for decades and *still* don't know how
> to run MYsql on my own PC...
>
> Set up as a server...
>
> Sounds simple...
>
> But, I haven't found a single write-up that *I* understand...
>
> So, please, write us a little step by step...
>
> Thanks!
>
> Mike Sr.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Robert Lawrence
> To: eSword@yahoogroups.com <eSword%40yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Thursday, November 02, 2006 12:35 AM
> Subject: Re: [eSword] Porting e-Sword (was: e-Sword Power )
>
> you set your pc up as a server to itself. the same thing is done in
> oracle, etc.
>
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: Derrick Heathorn <dheathorn@... <dheathorn%40gmail.com>>
> To: eSword@yahoogroups.com <eSword%40yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, November 1, 2006 5:48:28 PM
> Subject: Re: [eSword] Porting e-Sword (was: e-Sword Power )
>
> Really? well there you go lol. Mind sharing how?
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>


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I've imported a HCSB commentary from Gateway using BeST.

I have to click on each verse for the commentary to show.

How do I change it so that the commentary appears chapter by chapter
in the commentary window (i.e. all the cross references and footnotes
appear for the whole chapter rather than just one verse)?

Adam

Here is a way to execute SQL queries in VB/VBScript with DAO 3.6 (almost the
same way works with ADO)-
The DataBaseFileName and DataBasePassword must be set, and the latter can be an
empty string.

       SQL = "select * from table"
       set DAO = CreateObject ( "DAO.DBEngine.36" )
       set DB = DAO.OpenDatabase ( DataBaseFileName, false, false, ";pwd=" &
DataBasePassword)
       set Table = DB.OpenRecordSet ( SQL )
       if err.number<>0 then
          MsgBox "Not a valid SQL query!"
          err.clear
       end if
       DB.Close


   ----- Original Message -----
   From: Derrick Heathorn
   To: eSword@yahoogroups.com
   Sent: Thursday, November 02, 2006 12:48 AM
   Subject: Re: [eSword] Porting e-Sword (was: e-Sword Power )


   Really? well there you go lol. Mind sharing how?

   On 11/2/06, Robert Lawrence <robs_teresas@...> wrote:
   >
   > you can run mySQL from your personal machine without a server.
   >
   > bob
   >
   >
   > ----- Original Message ----
   > From: Derrick Heathorn <dheathorn@... <dheathorn%40gmail.com>>
   > To: eSword@yahoogroups.com <eSword%40yahoogroups.com>
   > Sent: Wednesday, November 1, 2006 4:58:20 AM
   > Subject: Re: [eSword] Porting e-Sword (was: e-Sword Power )
   >
   > With mySQL, don't you then have to have a mySQL server installed to be
   > able
   >
   > to use it?
   >
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   >
   >
   >

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Hi Guys, long time since my last post, afraid I have taken to lurking
recently :)  Just wondered if anyone has converted Strongs NIV
concordence (editted by Kohlenberger) for e-sword or indeed in any
other format?  It's published by IVP in print form.

Cheers

Kneewax