Hello Martha, I agree, we may find a SNP that better identifies Ely Carroll. Right now, I would say we just wait to see what FTDNA is going to offer to people...
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PETER BIGGINS
peterabiggins
Jul 27, 2012 7:39 pm
Hello Martha, I take back what I said about FTDNA offering a product directly. The comments from Bennett include: "Q: Can I purchase the Geno 2.0 kit...
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PETER BIGGINS
peterabiggins
Jul 27, 2012 9:03 pm
Hello Martha, It appears that FTDNA is no longer going to do deep clade testing. If you want that, go to Geno 2.0. But, it also appears that FTDNA is going to...
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bowessurnames
Jul 27, 2012 9:45 pm
Thanks for the details. Should be interesting to watch all this unfold! And the third reason someone might want to do Gene 2.0 is to get a good look at their...
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bowessurnames
Jul 27, 2012 9:49 pm
From Roberta's blog (I think it was :-&), FTDNA was still maybe going to be able to offer an upgrade to their customers even if ordered through the Genographic...
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elycarroll@yahoogroup...
Jul 29, 2012 11:41 pm
Hello, This email message is a notification to let you know that a file has been uploaded to the Files area of the elycarroll group. File : /O'Carroll...
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bowessurnames
Aug 6, 2012 12:18 pm
Just passing this along ... Kathleen (Sullivan?, Kerwin?) would like as many Ely Carroll as possible to join either her Eoghanacht...
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andmur.t21@...
andmur.t21...
Aug 28, 2012 10:04 pm
Folks I have just returned from a short visit to Ely O'Carroll country where I was able to visit some sites associated with the clan including Kinnitty Castle,...
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bowessurnames
Aug 31, 2012 5:19 pm
How great for you to go Andrew! I look forward to seeing the photos when time allows. Martha...
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bowessurnames
Aug 31, 2012 5:24 pm
Is there anything to be made of the appearance that the Carroll group, even correcting (eyeballing) for its slightly larger size, appears to have a lot more...
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andmur.t21@...
andmur.t21...
Sep 2, 2012 6:10 pm
Folks I have posted photos as promised. The High Cross unfortunately was taken in portrait mode and appears sideways. I don't seem to be able to adjust it....
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bowessurnames
Sep 3, 2012 1:07 pm
Some thoughts: I'm thinking it may reflect that the Carroll group has earlier common ancestors, while the Bowe/s are a more "recent" (not offering a date for...
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bowessurnames
Sep 3, 2012 1:15 pm
Wow, that's great to have those photos uploaded here. I'm out here in the US and for now I can only dream of going back to Ireland some day. Photos bring back...
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PETER BIGGINS
peterabiggins
Sep 3, 2012 3:40 pm
Hello Martha, There are 12 Carrolls and 6 Bowes. The genetic distances among the Carrolls range from 0 to 12, with an average of 7.4 The genetic distances...
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bowessurnames
Sep 3, 2012 6:48 pm
Yes, sadly those pesky sample sizes are always a factor. I don't see an NPE from looking at the data in this EC project, so much as I see its possibility when...
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bowessurnames
Sep 3, 2012 6:59 pm
At least I know my eyeballs are scanning fairly well. I'm sure you already had these numbers in all the good mathematical work you've done. Martha...
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andmur.t21@...
andmur.t21...
Sep 4, 2012 11:01 pm
Peter Your message mentions GD matrices being attached for each group but I do not seem able to see them. Can you advise. Regards Andrew...
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elycarroll@yahoogroup...
Sep 5, 2012 9:53 pm
Hello, This email message is a notification to let you know that a file has been uploaded to the Files area of the elycarroll group. File :...
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elycarroll@yahoogroup...
Sep 5, 2012 9:54 pm
Hello, This email message is a notification to let you know that a file has been uploaded to the Files area of the elycarroll group. File :...
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andmur.t21@...
andmur.t21...
Sep 13, 2012 10:24 pm
Hi I am interested in seeing the contents of the document attached. The link takes me to a single page. Should I be able to see more? Regards Andrew...
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bowessurnames
Sep 14, 2012 7:16 pm
Ooops, sorry, didn't know the whole file didn't come with it, or that it needs rotating. Will find that and try again ... Martha...
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bowessurnames
Mar 23, 2013 5:17 pm
Yikes Andrew! I just discovered I didn't follow through on this! I've just dug the document out of my piles and will get it scanned again. Martha...
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bowessurnames
Mar 23, 2013 6:03 pm
Pg 102 of Betham's "Irish antiquarian researches, Band 1" (from which it looks like other information has been extracted in message 244 that contains the...
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Adrian Martyn
martynadrian
Mar 24, 2013 12:30 am
Éile was originally a larger territory. The term Ely O'Carroll (sic) was only applied to the territory ruled by the Ui Chearbhaill after they adopted the...
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bowessurnames
Mar 24, 2013 2:16 am
Thanks Adrian, for some reason I just never got that before, and that the O Carrolls had held sway over much or all of it, or is Betham mistaken on that part? ...
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Adrian Martyn
martynadrian
Mar 24, 2013 3:56 am
Hi Martha, The Ui Chearbhaill only took that surname in the 11th/12th centuries. During the 10th-12th centuries, a number of different dynasties within Eile...
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bowessurnames
Mar 24, 2013 5:10 pm
Okay, got it scanned. The file was too big to upload here, so it's in the Links section under Ely Carroll Pedigree - "The Genealogy and Rulers of Eile O...
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bowessurnames
Mar 24, 2013 5:11 pm
Thanks, I took a look at Wikipedia for Eile too....
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bowessurnames
Mar 26, 2013 11:18 pm
"The Early History of the Town of Birr, or Parsonstown" http://www.archive.org/stream/earlyhistoryofto00cookuoft#page/n5/mode/1up...
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andmur.t21@...
andmur.t21...
Jun 8, 2013 4:00 pm
Hi Martha Thanks for getting the link in. There doesn't appear to be a page 4 or 5. Am I missing anything or is it as it should be. It is of particular...
