You're right, Alex, gay politics is at the forefront of American politics. According to the Chicago Tribune, on Monday night the Illinois Republican candidate...
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nyguy_1225
Sep 1, 2004 11:54 am
Keyes said: "The essence of ... family life remains procreation. If we embrace homosexuality as a proper basis for marriage, we are saying that it's possible...
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dixibehr@...
kumquatqt
Sep 1, 2004 12:50 pm
... From the Orthodox Christian viewpoint, the purpose of marriage is for the man and woman to work out their salvation and sanctification TOGETHER--as a ...
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bob wyre
bob11wyre
Sep 2, 2004 8:18 am
I would take this even a step further. We now know that at least 1.7% of the population is "Intersexed." There is no way to tell what sex they are!! They have...
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DALE MALHENZIE
ssgdalbz
Sep 2, 2004 8:19 am
quite simply sex with another man is sin. end of story. dixibehr@... wrote: ... From the Orthodox Christian viewpoint, the purpose of marriage is for the...
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nyguy_1225
Sep 2, 2004 8:37 am
Hi Dale, thanks for posting. I'd be very interested in hearing why you believe sex with another man is categorically "quite simply" sin and the "end of...
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DALE MALHENZIE
ssgdalbz
Sep 3, 2004 5:44 pm
Hey, Before you think I am some kind of a nut let me assure that I have experienced quite abit in my 49 years. I have been HIV pos for 10 years now. I am not...
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nyguy_1225
Sep 3, 2004 6:17 pm
Dale, I never suspected or intimated that you were "some kind of nut." As stated in the group's description on the home page, I am of the belief that most...
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dixibehr@...
kumquatqt
Sep 4, 2004 11:48 am
The following was written by a Christian lady, married, professional, heterosexual, with grown children: _____ Alan Keyes, conservative sometime candidate for...
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dixibehr@...
kumquatqt
Sep 4, 2004 11:58 am
... I've noticed the same thing myself--and it doesn't have to be about sexual matters either. It can be eschatology, the sacraments, the Incarnation, or...
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dixibehr@...
kumquatqt
Sep 4, 2004 12:04 pm
I would suggest that all the members of this list go to www.musingson.com and read the postings of this conservative evangelical pastor's wife. While (at this...
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dixibehr@...
kumquatqt
Sep 4, 2004 12:06 pm
... People always take the story of Sodom in Genesis 19 to prove that all homosexuality is sinful. But they never look at the parallel story in Judges 19,...
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Jan Chandler
janicechandler
Sep 4, 2004 7:11 pm
Hello, Allow me to introduce myself. My name is Jan and I am a recovering AG. I have a PC bible program called eSword. For those of you that may be familiar...
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nyguy_1225
Sep 4, 2004 7:55 pm
Jan, if you're looking to do some study on this subject, three (of many) web sites that have a good deal of scholarly work are: (1) Roy Clements: ...
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nyguy_1225
Sep 6, 2004 1:09 am
Happy 5th Anniversary to the "ex-ex-gay ministry" Yahoo group! This month the "ex-ex-gay ministry" Yahoo group celebrates its 5th anniversary. On Friday,...
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Norm
nojam75
Sep 6, 2004 5:40 pm
Wow, I can't believe it's been five years. They've passed so quickly. You're right, Alex. Things have certainly changed in the last five years....
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DALE MALHENZIE
ssgdalbz
Sep 7, 2004 5:53 pm
Hi Alex, Please give me your thoughts about Romans Chapter one. Where it speaks of men lusting after each other and leaving the natural use of the woman. Dont...
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keyboy1969@...
keyboy1969
Sep 7, 2004 10:04 pm
... www.godmademegay.com, all are explained there. ... [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]...
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nyguy_1225
Sep 7, 2004 10:40 pm
Hi Dale, As you know, there is only text in the NT that actually discusses male-to-male sex in any length and it is this one in the 1st chapter of Paul's...
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Anthony Venn-Brown - ...
anthonyvb2001
Sep 7, 2004 11:38 pm
Thanks Alex for the well thought out, informative and concise description. As usual well done. I’m saving this post for future reference. Anthony Venn-Brown ...
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moi
candyclark2000
Sep 8, 2004 12:28 am
Hi Anthony, Alex, & Dale, I have a short thought that somewhat settles Romans 1 for me. It is written in the NT but that does not make it's subject that of...
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nyguy_1225
Sep 8, 2004 12:44 am
Thanks, Anthony. Fact is there has been tons of scholarly research done on this subject in recent years. I'm just one of many who have had the opportunity to...
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Anthony Venn-Brown - ...
anthonyvb2001
Sep 8, 2004 12:54 am
Heaps of research Alex………..I know……but it takes a very clever manlike you to take all that and condense it in such a way that dummies like me make ...
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nyguy_1225
Sep 8, 2004 1:07 am
It took me a long time, Anthony. I was taught "antigay" theology just like everyone else. And I bought into it, hook, line and sinker, for many years. It...
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DALE MALHENZIE
ssgdalbz
Sep 8, 2004 1:51 pm
Alex and all. There is no doubt a lot more history associated with Romans and what you wrote was not new to me. Neither are experiences that some of you may...
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nyguy_1225
Sep 8, 2004 5:31 pm
<<What I do find missing are the verses that say its okay to go have sex outside of marriage. Can you find one? >> Hi Dale, Good question! I'm tempted to turn...
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nyguy_1225
Sep 8, 2004 6:03 pm
<<Maybe you can't relate but I have been married to the same woman for 28 years. I haven't met very many men that stayed with another man for anywhere that...
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DALE MALHENZIE
ssgdalbz
Sep 8, 2004 6:30 pm
Alex, I am not acquainted with the meaning of the term sex ethic. I do find a verse that says in 1Tim 3:2 A bishop then must be the husband of one wife and...
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Anthony Venn-Brown - ...
anthonyvb2001
Sep 8, 2004 8:06 pm
Hi Alex and Dale I’d like to add my little bit to the discussion. While I spent 16 years with my wife fighting, hiding, and denying my true self I was...
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nyguy_1225
Sep 8, 2004 11:59 pm
<<I do find a verse that says in 1 Tim 3:2 -- a bishop then must be the husband of one wife and later on even a deacon should be the husband of one wife.>> ...