<<Alex, I am not a divinical major and for you to suggest that I am picking and choosing is out of line. I compare scripture with other scriptures.>> I've...
Alex, In respect to the law it was done away with when Christ came. He himself said he was the fulfillment of it. I dont need to follow all the jewish...
Dale, You have mentioned a couple of times, and asked for examples of, positive portrayals of homosexuality in the Bible. The truth is, as you know already I...
Dale, Bob's point in the previous post is an important one. Apparent silence on a particular issue in scripture -- such as long term, loving, same sex...
HI Bob In talking about marriage vows before God and being gay and staying with your wife....I'm not sure you completely understand the situation. The vows I...
Anthony - I do understand. Dale said that divorce is not an option he desires. If he chooses to stay married, then from a Christian viewpoint being faithful ...
Well, it's been a week full of healthy, truth-seeking and respectful exchanges here on the ex-ex-gay-ministry board. I believe Bob was right on the money in...
Hey all. I never introduced myself after joining a few weeks ago. My name is Jay, live in NYC, 27 yo. Been quite fascinated with the string of biblical...
Hi Jay, Welcome and thanks for your insightful post. I too am Jewish. However, unlike you who appear to have been raised in an Orthodox Jewish household, I...
To any one, No, I could not persuade you that God might not approve of the gay lifestyle. That was not my objective. Some may think it was my intention to...
<<By the way I don't know what churches you have been in but I know many Christians from several states that fast regularly. And homosexuality is not the only...
Hey - i just realized i never finished making my point. My point was/is that I dont believe Judaism is all or nothing, so EVEN if i believed being gay was a ...
Makes sense to me. While we're on the subject and just out of curiosity, how do Orthodox Jews handle the custom of the levirate marriage today? According to...
alex, i have heard of cases in israel where a ceremony is performed to avoid having to have a woman marry her brother-in-law in israel and in new york. its...
Film Promoting Gay-Straight Conversion Targets National Coming Out Day by Ed Welch 365Gay.com Newscenter Los Angeles Bureau Posted: September 21, 2004 12:01 am...
Thanks for the info. I’ve only just found about One Nation Under God…….that counteracts the ex gay message….actually from the founders. Any more info...
<<The film features Robert Spitzer, a Columbia University professor who claims homosexuality is a matter of choice.>> I don't think even Spitzer believes this....
Sounds to me like some people will stop at nothing to criticize what some one else does. I dont know about statistics that was my least favorite course in...
Dale: Ironic isn't it Dale that you are doing to Alex what you claim he is doing to Spitzer's work (even though he had direct experience with him). If gays...
<<I would like to believe that God is able to do anything including changing a person's sexual orientation. If he could heal a blind person, then why not?>> ...
Alex, I am a little perplexed. I hear from Bob that I did something to you. If that means that I hurt you in some way please forgive me. I may have been too...
... Not even God Himself can heal something that is not a disease. To expect God to heal someone of homosexuality is like expecting God to heal someone of...
... What Spitzer actually said in and about his study has been distorted, especialy by the ex-gay press. <<"Even when Spitzer clarified that his study had...
I would prefer to say that God heals other things besides diseases. He is a healer of broken spirits also. dixibehr@... wrote: ... Not even God Himself can...
... But that would be a spiritual disease, like a broken leg. But just as He cannotheal a healthy leg--only perhaps give it more strength--so he cannot heal...
Dale, don't even give a thought to your concern of having possibly offended me. Norm (the group's founder) and I have worked hard to make this a place where...
Bob, Thanks for your post. It's always nice to see guys from the Yahoo "ex-gay" group (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/exgaymensministry/) post here. Your ...
Alex: Thanks for the kind words. I do remember that Dave said he would respond after he was recovered from his sickness. I don't know when that will be. I...
i did get a chance to see the throckmorton video "i do exist"... i was happy to see a video of its kind finally come into fruition. while i do identify as gay,...
Although I fully respect your opinion and right to feel this way, I'm not sure I would agree. While it is certainly everyone's free choice and right to...