Interesting article, Drew. I understand that you feel your article from two years ago was too harsh, so I'll try to restrain my reaction. Your article defends...
Norm: Thanks for being understanding. I know what it is like to feel self-loathing and it is a programming that I am unraveling with my therapist. I'm not...
Sorry guys... but I cannot even "come to the table" with the idea that anti-gay Christians are often very well intentioned. They may *believe* that they are,...
Drew: >>>"...I'm not exactly sure how it came into being, but somehow the concept that I was inherently evil worked into my psyche. That somewhere inside there...
Jerry, I can agree with much of what you say. There are people in both the left and the right, conservative/liberal, pro/anti-gay, etc., who cannot abide with...
<<Sorry guys... but I cannot even "come to the table" with the idea that anti-gay Christians are often very well intentioned. They may *believe* that they are,...
Sorry Alex, I cannot agree here. I do believe that many of us held onto anti-gay ideologies out of fear. I know I certainly did. I was scared to death of...
James: Forgive me, but I find the term "anti-gay"; misused, overused and a simplistic label to throw around and incompatible with conversations about such a...
Norm: I love talking to you! You come across as very balanced in your thinking and it appeals to me. Now, where are you located and tell me about this gay...
I agree with you regarding the term "anti-gay";, Drew. I was simply quoting it from the previous post I was responding to. Cheers, James Drew VanDyche...
James: You get a big hug from me! I always get scared that something I say is going to be lambasted. Of course that's living out of fear also. Ah well, I am...
That may have been your experience which is valid and to be respected. But to imply that was or is the experience for everyone would be an error. I was not...
I feel like my point has been totally misunderstood. I never implied (and certainly did not mean to) that people who do not believe that Christianity and...
James' and Alex's discussion about the chracterization and motives of "ex-gay" promoters and participants has been interesting. I try to be fair when...
<<I will also argue that their sincerity and well-intentions are undermined by their interest to defend and promote religious fundamentalism.>> I agree with...
Alex: >>>"However, what I don't hear in your post, or in most of the others that appeared this week, is an acknowledgment that there are also many innocent and...
Bravo Norm! I love the way you think! ... Drew Norm <nojam75@...> wrote: Alex: >>>"However, what I don't hear in your post, or in most of the others that...
As you have probably already heard, a Fairfax county school board member, Stephen M. Hunt, sent a letter requesting that all of the county's high school...
My own point of view regarding Church-Of-The-Open-Door, Exodus Int'l. and specifically it's sister/daughter org. founded by Frank Worthen, L.I.A., in San...
Ken: I would definitely like to chat with you more about your experiences. It's not my attempt to blindly whitewash everything, but I know that at the time,...
This weekend I was flipping past the local TBN affiliate and spotted a discussion with our local ex-gay ministry. It featured the usual 'praise God, He healed...
While many people do go into ministry for a variety of reasons, some of them being the WRONG reasons, i find it sad that you would make a generalization of why...
Sorry, I intended my comment about the true intentions of missionary work to be facetious. My intention was not to attack missionaries -- especially since...
Norm: After reading this, I was laughing out loud and rolling on the floor. What a way to overcome, by surrounding yourself with unnattractive people. Why...
I admit that I LOL too because his comment was so absurd. The sad point is that he dismissed an entire race of people because he was only looking for a body...
Norm: But those people seem to be few and far between, especially when you're not at the top of your game physically. At least that's my experience. Drew Norm...
Norm, Thanks for the post. Apology accepted :) Drew, Which people seem few and far between? gays who want meaningful relationships? ... you're not at the top...
Good point, Drew. I didn't say there were very many gay men who willing to overlook physical attraction. Afterall, we're all somewhat shallow. It could be...
Greetings in the Mighty Name of Jesus! I am new to the group so I thought I would introduce myself. Im a 21 yr old Apostolic/Pentecostal residing in Phx, AZ,...
