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#21153 From: "Laura" <exgaydates@...>
Date: Mon Apr 2, 2007 6:34 pm
Subject: Love Won Out ....."Omaha, Nebraska"........Press Release
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April 14 event in Omaha will feature often-unreported facts about
controversial issue

COLORADO   SPRINGS, Colo., March 28 /PRNewswire-USNewswire/ -- Focus
on the Family welcomed news today that its April 14 Love Won Out
conference at  Trinity Church in Omaha will be protested by gay
activists, saying it looks  forward to adding its voice to a
community-wide dialogue on homosexuality.

Most of the 43 Love Won Out events held since 1995 have seen some
form of protest, said Melissa Fryrear, a Love Won Out speaker and
director of  Focus on the Family's Gender Issues Department. And
that's perfectly fine in America.

     "How great is it that our country guarantees its citizens the
right to speak out about issues they care about -- even when those
issues are  controversial?" Fryrear said. "The protesters have every
right to exercise that freedom with regards to their views on
homosexuality. So do we -- and  that's what we'll be doing on April
14: exercising our right to offer families who are affected by
homosexuality information they may not get elsewhere."

     Those who oppose Love Won Out have used words like "bigotry"
and  "hatred" to describe the event. Fryrear said that's exactly the
opposite of  Love Won Out's mission and message.

     "Our conference is about truth, love and hope," she said. "In
every city we've ever gone to, we've found men and women who are
dissatisfied  living homosexually; what we offer them is the reality
that change is  possible -- that unwanted same-sex attractions can
be overcome. My life and  the lives of thousands of other ex-gays
like me are proof of that."

     In addition to the personal stories of Fryrear and Mike Haley, a
former  homosexual and the conference host, the event will feature
discussions of  the roots of homosexuality and what the Bible says
about the subject.

     "The No. 1 misleading statement made about us is that we
believe  homosexuality is a choice," Fryrear said. "That's not at
all true. We  believe same-sex attractions are caused by many
complex factors, and we  explain that very meticulously in our
sessions."

     The conference will be from 8 a.m. to 5 p.m. at Trinity Church,
15555  West Dodge Road in Omaha. A news conference to address the
charges leveled  by protesters will be held at noon Friday, April
13, at the church.  For more information and to arrange press
credentials, contact Nima  Reza at 719-548-4570 or 719-648-4590.


James C. Dobson, Ph.D. is a psychologist, author, radio broadcaster
and founder of Focus on the Family. Founded in 1977, Focus on the
Family is a nonprofit Christian organization committed to
strengthening the family in  the U.S. and throughout the world.

#21154 From: "JOSE" <laempresadeserhombre@...>
Date: Mon Apr 2, 2007 7:37 pm
Subject: Leviathan (pornography and filth promoted in the EXGDB...)
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Well:

I have received an email from an Jaxon Thomas, with an advertisement
on penis enlargement.  Some four years ago I was looking for the
inverse process.

Actually I do not complaint.  I have not lost something really worthy,
as to cry about.

An interesting vested diffamation campaign has grown in local
journals, their main issue is defending our minister of education
against us (the terrible oggers and vampire teacherssss....wooooo).

Last december I was so worried about this issue, because this
government is another one of the most corrupt and less interested in
public welfare, but the word of God came with the message of Leviathan.

Leviathan is a monster.  It depicts whatever monster there is.

oooooooooooooooooooooooooops, I will change machine this keyboard is
not doing well....

Continue in the next post....

Jose

#21155 From: "JOSE" <laempresadeserhombre@...>
Date: Mon Apr 2, 2007 8:17 pm
Subject: Re: Leviathan (pornography and filth promoted in the EXGDB...)
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Hi then:

Leviathan is a monster, it depicts or embodies the monster of social
hatred, of political corruption and or religious deviation.

The country where I live is now giving form to a monster-like
period.  This place has the most terrible extreme faces:

1.-  It is about 500 times smaller than USA.
2.-  It has nearly 70 volcanoes, the same amount of USA.
3.-  It is a territory made out of the interaction of 3 tectonic
plates:  Northamerica, Cocos and Caribbean.
4.-  It is located in the middle of the region that will be reduced
to a desert due to global warming.
5.-  It ended a period of 30 years of civil war, with a quarter
million casualties.
6.-  It is one of the most violent countries in Latin America.
7.-  It is the second poorest country along with Haiti.
8.-  It is a bridge to drug traffic from Colombia.
9.-  It is the second country with more femicides (woman homicides)
..... and so on

Jose

#21156 From: Thomas Morey <moreytom@...>
Date: Tue Apr 3, 2007 7:01 pm
Subject: Re: [ExGDBd] Re: A Blogger's Affirmation (married exgay comment....)
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Amen, Jose!
--- JOSE <laempresadeserhombre@...> wrote:

> I would not support sex under any circumstance.  I
> live perfectly well
> as a human deprived of sexual activity.  I do not
> know if my wife does.
>
> In hispanic world this has been common, this is what
> you can
> call "messianism" in marriage.
>
> One day, I watched at my severely mentally
> handicapped wife's feet,
> and I decided to have them washed.  I prepared warm
> water and made the
> operation.
>
> The result was so satisfactory.  Seeing her feet
> clean, pure, deprived
> of filth and the torture of her illness, made me be
> aware of the
> interest behind the same act performed by Jesus to
> his disciples.
>
> The message of Jesus is so amazingly complete and
> permeating.
> Sexuality, as seen from the position of Jesus, is
> purity, is
> protective and respectful.  Someone told me once
> that he prayed with
> his wife before having intimacy, just before he fell
> down under
> homosexuality.
>
> If you are christian, do not expect happiness from
> sex, expect
> happiness from mutual respect and understanding.
>
> Jose
>
>
>




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#21157 From: Thomas Morey <moreytom@...>
Date: Tue Apr 3, 2007 7:38 pm
Subject: Hostage drill at NJ school features mock 'Christian terrorists'
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Boy, this literally hits close to home. I played this
high school in basketball 32 years ago, being that it
is in South Jersey, near where I grew up at the Jersey
shore. At that time it was definitely attended by
mostly blue collar conservatives' kids, and had at
least a moderately liberal faculty!

Blessings,

Tom

Hostage drill at NJ school features mock 'Christian
terrorists'

Jim Brown
OneNewsNow.com
April 2, 2007

The head of a national, Texas-based pro-family group
says a recent hostage drill at a New Jersey high
school, which portrayed conservative Christians as
terrorists, is reflective of a dangerous philosophy
that has become prevalent in many parts of America,
where it is having negative effects on education.

A local paper reports that a drill at Burlington
Township High School in New Jersey involved police
portraying mock gunmen, described as "members of a
right-wing fundamentalist group called the 'New
Crusaders' who don't believe in the separation of
church and state." The fake gunmen were said to have
been "seeking justice because the daughter of one
[member] had been expelled for praying before class."

Historian and constitutional expert David Barton is
president of WallBuilders, a national pro-family
organization that distributes historical, legal, and
statistical information and helps citizens become
active in their local schools and communities. He says
the stereotyping used in the high school's drill is an
accurate indicator of what is being taught in public
schools in the Northeast region of the country.

"It's been interesting to see the indoctrination that
goes on," Barton notes, "where we've had in the same
region, even federal courts up in that same area, say
it's okay to start teaching second graders about
homosexuality and homosexual 'marriage.'"

Also, the author and historian observes, the common
thinking prevalent in this region is "that, by the
way, we do not have to notify parents that we're going
to indoctrinate kids because this is such an important
societal value that all citizens need it." But in
fact, he asserts, such liberal indoctrination of
students in religious and moral areas of thought has
been shown to lead to some undesirable outcomes.

"There is now a study that has been done by the
University of Connecticut that shows that kids who
have gone through that type of education actually know
less academically than when they enter [school], and
they're calling that phenomenon 'negative learning,'"
Barton points out. "So that kind of indoctrination or
philosophy is having an adverse effect academically,"
he says.

Nevertheless, the WallBuilders founder observes,
liberal attitudes like the one that informs the
Burlington Township High School drill are "fairly
reflective of the philosophy that has really
inculcated that part of the country. He says many
schools, local officials, and members of Congress from
the Northeast share a strong hostility toward
traditional values.

The "separation of church and state" phrase invoked in
the school hostage drill, Barton asserts, was rarely
used by America's founding fathers and is currently
construed by many liberals to mean almost exactly the
opposite of what it originally meant, protecting
churches from the government.

Correction: Removes inaccurate reference to "New
England" in third paragraph. (4/2/2007)

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#21158 From: Thomas Morey <moreytom@...>
Date: Tue Apr 3, 2007 7:49 pm
Subject: Mass. Governor Stands Against Traditional Marriage
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4-2-2007

Mass. Governor Stands Against Traditional Marriage
by Jennifer Mesko, associate editor

Reversing Romney's decision, he orders out-of-state
unions to be recorded.

As the new sheriff in town, Massachusetts Gov. Deval
Patrick isn't wasting any time in taking a stand
against traditional marriage. On Friday, he ordered
the state to officially record the marriages of 26
out-of-state homosexual couples, reversing a decision
by his predecessor, Mitt Romney.

Patrick also is seeking to reverse stem-cell research
restrictions implemented by Romney, which ban the
creation of embryos for the sole purpose of research.

In March 2006, the Massachusetts Supreme Judicial
Court ruled that Romney could rely on a 1913 state law
to prohibit out-of-state homosexual couples from
marrying.
"Governor Patrick is placing his personal preference
above the law, and that can never be justified,
especially as the state's highest constitutional
officer," Kris Mineau, president of the Massachusetts
Family Institute and spokesman for VoteOnMarriage.org,
said in a statement.

Messages left at the governor's office were not
returned

Lisa Barstow, spokeswoman for the Massachusetts Family
Institute and VoteOnMarriage.org, said Patrick's move
was largely symbolic -- it doesn't affect the legal
status of the marriages.

"He is a strong proponent of same-sex marriage and
basically a strong opponent of the marriage amendment
and citizens' right to vote," Barstow said. "He'll use
any available means of persuasion to advocate for
same-sex marriage."

Jenny Tyree, associate marriage analyst for Focus on
the Family Action, said, "Homosexual activists
continue to grasp at anything and everything to punch
another hole in marriage in Massachusetts.  If
twisting the law will help them in their quest to
redefine marriage, they are willing to do that and
more."

A state amendment to protect traditional marriage
could come up for a vote before a joint session of the
Legislature as early as May. If it passes, it would
hit the ballot in the fall of 2008.

About 8,000 homosexual couples have wed in
Massachusetts since 2004, when it became legal.

Tyree said Patrick's actions could affect the entire
nation.

"This will encourage homosexuals to make the trip to
Massachusetts and attempt to force the issue back in
their home states," she said. "And it is likely that
they will be supported financially by larger groups
who share their goal of redefining marriage for all of
society."

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#21159 From: Thomas Morey <moreytom@...>
Date: Tue Apr 3, 2007 8:00 pm
Subject: On "Outing" Gay Conservatives
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Tuesday, April 3, 2007

On "Outing" Gay Conservatives
By Dennis Prager

The reason given by same-sex marriage activists for
"outing" conservative gays is that these people are
"hypocrites" who therefore deserve to have their
sexual orientation revealed to the world.

Decent people instinctively recoil at the idea of
exposing someone's most personal sexual secrets to the
world. Yet, many activists on behalf of gay rights
engage in such behavior.

Movements are often better than their leaders -- and
the movement to treat gays as fellow human beings
created in God's image is a noble one -- but to the
extent that a social agenda can be measured by its
spokesmen and leaders, gay rights activism would have
to be considered one of the least morally appealing
movements of our time.

It is difficult to identify a more morally repellent
act -- outside of violence -- than "outing" a gay
person for political gain. Yet, those who "out" gay
conservatives defend their actions -- and they do so
by blaming their victims. The victims deserve it, the
outers contend.

And why do gay Republicans and conservatives deserve
to have the most private part of themselves revealed
to the world?

Because, the activists argue, conservative gays are
hypocrites, and hypocrites deserve no mercy.

But this argument is nonsensical. If the activists
believe this argument, they do not think clearly. If
they don't believe it, then they "out" gay
conservatives for another reason: They wish to punish
gays who do not follow the leftist party line on
same-sex marriage and other gay-related issues, and
they wish to intimidate other non-outed gays from
adopting conservative values on such matters.

Why is the hypocrite argument nonsense? Because it is
a non sequitur. Gay opposition to same-sex marriage
has nothing whatsoever to do with hypocrisy.

Why can't a gay person oppose redefining marriage to
include two people of the same sex?

Why can't a gay person believe that it is best for
children to start out life with a mother and father as
opposed to two fathers and no mother or two mothers
and no father?

Why does one have to be a heterosexual in order to
make that argument?

Why is one's value system shaped by one's sexual
orientation?

Why does the fact that one is gay and engages in
homosexual behavior mean that he must advocate
redefining marriage?

Why can heterosexuals think outside their sexual
orientation and advocate same-sex marriage but
homosexuals cannot think outside their sexual
orientation and advocate retaining opposite-sex
marriage?

All of this is characteristic of leftist thinking --
that one's thought processes and values are shaped by
one's race, sex or sexual orientation. Thus, one
routinely hears from liberal spokesmen that a black
person who opposes affirmative action based on race is
a traitor to his race, an Uncle Tom, and probably a
hypocrite since he or she must have benefited from
affirmative action.

We are told by feminists that men should have no say
on the morality or legality of abortion since men lack
a uterus.

And a gay who does not hold liberal views on all
matters pertaining to gays is a hypocrite.

And, therefore, such people can be treated with great
cruelty. Liberals publicly humiliated Supreme Court
Justice Clarence Thomas in ways no public figure of
our generation had ever been humiliated because he was
a conservative black. Recently, Bill Maher and gay
activists decided to "out" a leading Republican, who
may or may not be gay, because he had the audacity to
dissent from the left's views on same-sex marriage and
some other matters regarding gays.

Why do so many on the left believe it is OK to damage
the lives of gay conservatives? Because they are
certain that conservatives in general are bad people,
not merely wrong on the issues. And because they
particularly wish to punish any gay or black person
who dissents from the liberal positions on gay and
race issues.

For the left, it is a virtue for an American to differ
with American leaders, a virtue for a Catholic to
differ with Rome, a virtue for a Jew to differ with
Israel. But it is utterly unacceptable for a
homosexual to differ with gay organizations. Such a
person must be crushed. And the way to achieve that is
by exposing his sexual life to the world. And then
justify it by declaring him a "hypocrite."

Dennis Prager is a radio show host, contributing
columnist for Townhall.com, and author of 4 books
including "Happiness Is a Serious Problem: A Human
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#21160 From: "Laura" <exgaydates@...>
Date: Tue Apr 3, 2007 9:41 pm
Subject: The Cuddle Puddle of Stuyvesant High School
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Researchers find it shocking that 11 percent of American girls
between 15 and 19 claim to have same-sex encounters.
Clearly they've never observed the social rituals of the
pansexual, bi-queer, metroflexible New York teen.

This is an article from the New Yorker magazine on the underground
world of bisexuality on middle and high school children.

By Alex Morris

Alair is wearing a tight white tank top cut off above the hem to show
her midriff. Her black cargo pants graze the top of her combat boots,
and her black leather belt is studded with metal chains that drape
down at intervals across her hips. She has long blonde curls that at
various times have been dyed green, blue, red, purple, and orange.
("A mistake," she says. "Even if you mean to dye your hair orange,
it's still a mistake.") Despite the fact that she's fully clothed,
she seems somehow exposed, her baby fat lingering in all the right
places. Walking down the sterile, white halls of Stuyvesant High
School, she creates a wave of attention. She's not the most popular
girl in school, but she is well known. "People like me," she wrote in
an instant message. "Well, most of them."


Alair is headed for the section of the second-floor hallway where her
friends gather every day during their free tenth period for
the "cuddle puddle," as she calls it. There are girls petting girls
and girls petting guys and guys petting guys. She dives into the
undulating heap of backpacks and blue jeans and emerges between her
two best friends, Jane and Elle, whose names have been changed at
their request. They are all 16, juniors at Stuyvesant. Alair slips
into Jane's lap, and Elle reclines next to them, watching, cat-eyed.
All three have hooked up with each other. All three have hooked up
with boys—sometimes the same boys. But it's not that they're gay or
bisexual, not exactly. Not always.



Their friend Nathan, a senior with John Lennon hair and glasses, is
there with his guitar, strumming softly under the conversation. "So
many of the girls here are lesbian or have experimented or are
confused," he says.



Ilia, another senior boy, frowns at Nathan's use of labels. "It's not
lesbian or bisexual. It's just, whatever . . . "



Since the school day is winding down, things in the hallway are
starting to get rowdy. Jane disappears for a while and comes back
carrying a pint-size girl over her shoulder. "Now I take her off and
we have gay sex!" she says gleefully, as she parades back and forth
in front of the cuddle puddle. "And it's awesome!" The hijacked girl
hangs limply, a smile creeping to her lips. Ilia has stuffed papers
up the front of his shirt and prances around on tiptoe, batting his
eyes and sticking out his chest. Elle is watching, enthralled, as two
boys lock lips across the hall. "Oh, my," she murmurs. "Homoerotica.
There's nothing more exciting than watching two men make out." And
everyone is talking to another girl in the puddle who just "came
out," meaning she announced that she's now open to sexual overtures
from both boys and girls, which makes her a minor celebrity, for a
little while.



When asked how many of her female friends have had same-sex
experiences, Alair answers, "All of them." Then she stops to think
about it. "All right, maybe 80 percent. At least 80 percent of them
have experimented. And they still are. It's either to please a man,
or to try it out, or just to be fun, or 'cause you're bored, or
just 'cause you like it . . . whatever."



With teenagers there is always a fair amount of posturing when it
comes to sex, a tendency to exaggerate or trivialize, innocence mixed
with swagger. It's also true that the "puddle" is just one clique at
Stuyvesant, and that Stuyvesant can hardly be considered a typical
high school. It attracts the brightest public-school students in New
York, and that may be an environment conducive to fewer sexual
inhibitions. "In our school," Elle says, "people are getting a better
education, so they're more open-minded."



That said, the Stuyvesant cuddle puddle is emblematic of the changing
landscape of high-school sexuality across the country. This past
September, when the National Center for Health Statistics released
its first survey in which teens were questioned about their sexual
behavior, 11 percent of American girls polled in the 15-to-19
demographic claimed to have had same-sex encounters—the same
percentage of all women ages 15 to 44 who reported same-sex
experiences, even though the teenagers have much shorter sexual
histories. It doesn't take a Stuyvesant education to see what this
means: More girls are experimenting with each other, and they're
starting younger. And this is a conservative estimate, according to
Ritch Savin-Williams, a professor of human development at Cornell who
has been conducting research on same-sex-attracted adolescents for
over twenty years. Depending on how you phrase the questions and how
you define sex between women, he believes that "it's possible to get
up to 20 percent of teenage girls."

Of course, what can't be expressed in statistical terms is how
teenagers think about their same-sex interactions. Go to the schools,
talk to the kids, and you'll see that somewhere along the line this
generation has started to conceive of sexuality differently. Ten
years ago in the halls of Stuyvesant you might have found a few goth
girls kissing goth girls, kids on the fringes defiantly bucking the
system. Now you find a group of vaguely progressive but generally
mainstream kids for whom same-sex intimacy is standard operating
procedure. "It's not like, Oh, I'm going to hit on her now. It's just
kind of like, you come up to a friend, you grab their ass," Alair
explains. "It's just, like, our way of saying hello." These teenagers
don't feel as though their sexuality has to define them, or that they
have to define it, which has led some psychologists and child-
development specialists to label them the "post-gay" generation. But
kids like Alair and her friends are in the process of working up
their own language to describe their behavior. Along with gay,
straight, and bisexual, they'll drop in new words, some of which
they've coined themselves: polysexual, ambisexual, pansexual,
pansensual, polyfide, bi-curious, bi-queer, fluid, metroflexible,
heteroflexible, heterosexual with lesbian tendencies—or, as Alair
puts it, "just sexual." The terms are designed less to achieve
specificity than to leave all options open.



To some it may sound like a sexual Utopia, where labels have been
banned and traditional gender roles surpassed, but it's a complicated
place to be. Anyone who has ever been a girl in high school knows the
vicissitudes of female friendships. Add to that a sexual component
and, well, things get interesting. Take Alair and her friend Jane,
for example. "We've been dancing around each other for, like, three
years now," says Alair. "I'd hop into bed with her in a second." Jane
is tall and curvy with green eyes and faint dimples. She thinks Alair
is "amazing," but she's already had a female friendship ruined when
it turned into a romantic relationship, so she's reluctant to let it
happen again. Still, they pet each other in the hall, flirt, kiss,
but that's it, so far. "Alair," Jane explains, "is literally in love
with everyone and in love with no one."



Relationships are a bitch, dude."



Alair is having lunch with Jane, Elle, and their friend Nathan at a
little Indian place near Jane's Upper West Side apartment. Jane has
been telling the story of her first lesbian relationship: She fell
for a girl who got arrested while protesting the Republican National
Convention (very cool), but the girl stopped calling after they spent
the night together (very uncool).



"We should all be single for the rest of our lives," Alair
continues. "And we should all have sugar daddies." As the only child
of divorced parents, Alair learned early that love doesn't always end
in happily ever after and that sex doesn't always end in love.



Nathan looks across the table at her and nods knowingly. He recently
broke up with a girl he still can't get off his mind, even though he
wasn't entirely faithful when they were together. "I agree. I
wholeheartedly agree," he says.



"I disagree," says Elle, alarmed. She's the romantic of the group, a
bit naïve, if you ask the others.



"Well," says Nathan. "You're, like, the only one in a happy
relationship right now, so . . . "



Alair cracks up. "Happy? Her man is gayer than I am!" (Jane, the
sarcastic one, has a joke about this boy: "He's got one finger left
in the closet, and it's in Elle, depending on what time it is.")



"But at least she's happy," argues Nathan.



"When I'm single, I say I'm happy I'm single, and when I'm in a
relationship I seem happy in the relationship. Really, I'm filled
with angst!" says Elle.



Nathan rolls his eyes. "Anyone who says they're filled with angst is
definitely not filled with angst."



He's got a point. In her brand-new sneakers and her sparkly
barrettes, Elle is hardly a poster child for teenage anxiety. She
makes A's at Stuyvesant, babysits her cousins, and is engaging in a
way that will go over well in college interviews.



Then again, none of them are bad kids. Sure, they drink and smoke and
party, but in a couple of years, they'll be drinking and smoking and
partying at Princeton or MIT. They had to be pretty serious students
to even get into Stuyvesant, which accepts only about 3 percent of
its applicants. And when they're not studying, they're going to music
lessons, SAT prep, debate practice, Japanese class, theater
rehearsal, or some other résumé-building extracurricular activity.


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#21162 From: "JOSE" <laempresadeserhombre@...>
Date: Tue Apr 3, 2007 11:19 pm
Subject: Leviathan (3) (some corrections to the last post...APOCALIPTICAL so far...)
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Hi:

This country is:

1.-  1/90 th the size of USA, approximately.
2.-  It has 13 million people approximately.
3.-  It has the same ratio between people infected with HIV and the
total population as India and the United States.
4.-  It has between 60 and 50 percent of total native american
population, who have been around for the last 300 centuries or so.
5.-  It has a long story of child abuse, child mortality and child
labor exploitation.
6.-  It is said that it has the same proportion of divorces as
United States.
7.-  Recent research indicates that a large proportion of young
woman have experienced with sex before 19.
8.-  Half of the population is under 18 years of age, which is the
adult age here.
9.-  It is calculated that 60 percent of the population live under
extreme poverty line, with about one dollar a day to manage
themselves.
10.-  In recent tributary research, no guatemalan declared
himself/herself as millionaire, this is none in Guatemala has more
than one million quetzales ($ 129,000 more or less).
11.-  Five percent of total population owns more than 90 percent of
useful land, according to some old numbers.

With these numbers, and the geographical and weather scenario you
can figure out what the future is for us:
1.-  In a territory fractured by the frontiers of three tectonic
plates (Northamerica, Cocos and Caribbean).
2.-  Between 30 and 70 volcanoes.
3.-  Targeted as a desertic land by climate warming computer
predictions made in Japan.
4.-  Exposed to present day El Niños phenomena, we have an advanced
in time winter (rainy) season this year, which indicates a probable
draught this year.  The last draught was in 1991, which forced to
electrical quotas (the same year of Desert Storm and of a solar
eclipse).

There are some other sides of the entire picture:
1.-  Chronic famine has devastated some eastern regions in the last
years.  You could not imagine that the same scenes seen in Africa
are present some 3 hours by plane from your own house in the States.
2.-  An incredible increase in homicides, lynchings, kidnappings,
bank robberies and drug dealing has been present in the last 8 years.
3.-  An increase in juvenile gang culture.
4.-  Nearly 2 women are murdered each day.
5.-  Children prostitution and pederasty has increased in the last
years.  Some american and european guys visit this country to enjoy
the opportunities.
6.-  Money sent from illegal immigrants in the USA has become one of
the pillars of local economy, nearly as important as any other
traditional agricultural industries such as coffee plantations or so.
7.-  Top salary rates in the country reach a little more than $5.00
daily.  No payment for the hour or the like.  A teacher, like me,
earns $205 a month working for the State.  Private teachers usually
earn a little less, with no social security or retirement coverage.

I can continue:
1.-  The two most prominent candidates for the presidency are mr.
Colom, representing the last government in post leaded by a man
sought for mexican justice due to 2 murders, and troglodite-line
exmilitary general Perez Molina, who offers "hard hand" on
uncontrollable local gang violence.
2.-  Neoevangelicals claim to be the salvation for this country, and
support the present government, which is abusing on laborers in a
series of ways, seeking to align with IMF and World Bank designs.
The spinal chord of such a policy would be reducing public services
and creating a network private enterprises ruling such services
instead.  I will prove this is really bad mathematics in near posts.
3.-  Local political heads of a series of public services (some of
them my teachers at the University) have kept a "low profile"
functioning of these, and now claim for a change and the help of
local entepreneurs.

Ha

Jose

#21163 From: "JOSE" <laempresadeserhombre@...>
Date: Wed Apr 4, 2007 12:11 am
Subject: Leviathan (4) (I started seeking solutions to APOCALYSE....)
laempresades...
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Hi:

Some of you might think I am such a talkative guy.  In spite of
this, I can show that I am stepping on solid ground while speaking
that we should seek for strong spiritual backbones, pastors and
leaders who are not looking for a fancy car, prestige or the like.

I am a worker.  I designed a math teaching system, or the
first "cell" of it, to spread mathematical knowledge to all local
native american children.  This system is based on "animated math",
quite simple.

You can see the starting point of this project at:
http://www.stormpages.com/beto/math/index.html, it is in spanish.
Browse them and comment back.

I worked, some years ago, in a project to prevent local juvenile
gang culture spread, you can see it at:
http://www.stormpages.com/beto/gang/index.html.  Donna DeCesare,
Emmy award winner for reporting on El Salvador war and gang culture,
visited me and took some pics at that time.

My first results on juvenile gang culture spread in local students
can be seen here:
http://www.stormpages.com/beto/gang/resultados1.html.

Later I worked on commercial math and computer usage material, at:
http://www.stormpages.com/beto/staroffice/index.html.

Then, math for senior high school, at:
http://www.stormpages.com/beto/al/index.html.

I have some learning testing material at:
http://www.stormpages.com/beto/evaluation/index.html.

Later I worked with languages learning at:
http://www.stormpages.com/sophya/dictionary/DINDEX.htm.

Finally I work on rescuing people from homosexuality at:
http://www.continuousmiracles.blogspot.com/.

Heres is my research on local educational politics:
http://www.stormpages.com/beto/le/index.html.

Everyone of these without resorting to fund raising, brain-washing
techniques, hysterical neochristian culture or the like.  Just plain
individual hard labor, pains-taking labor, going to bed just early
in the morning and the like.

None has helped me so far.  Local educational politicians are simply
exploiting the bad-mathematics brain of european and american huge-
pockets people.

I will continue alone.  People come and go, I do not hesitate.  I
will continue my crusade for young people here in Guatemala, later
in Peru and Ecuador, and I will probably visit Santo Domingo this
end of the year.

I do not need money.  I need help, spiritual support and human
cooperation.  God does already instructs me, so far.  I am devising
a series of ways to teach early calculus to my people, people who
are traditionally unconfident with science.

If they were confident with science and wisdom, they would like
mathematicas and things like these, and they would be a first world
country.

Passing the public services to entepreneurs and neoevangelical
people here, will increase illegal immigration to USA at last, and
other social maladies.  I will deal with it later.

I will not be present on the net for the rest of the week, I have
plenty to review about my students homework, its holiday!!!

If you have any comment, or feel disturbed about my views, please
feed me back, I need some comments to enhance, improve or correct my
views.

I have difficulty to accept that a person who cannot make a division
by hand, would later become a critic of the things I do around, I
believe God can teach us much more than simple division by hand
making, so far.

Thank you,

Jose

#21164 From: "ctickle777" <ctickle777@...>
Date: Wed Apr 4, 2007 4:58 am
Subject: Re: The Cuddle Puddle of Stuyvesant High School
ctickle777
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Thanks for this eye-opening information, Laura! This was a REAL wake-
up call for parents! Call me naive, but this was very much of a
shock to me. This article details the ages of the girls
involved...is 15 an appropriate age, or is this happening sooner?

Also, how would a parent prevent his/her child from engaging in
these activities? Are their signs and signals that one's child is
acting out?

Personally, homeschooling seems like the best option, possibly
beginning in middle school if not before.

Christa

--- In exgaydiscussionboard@yahoogroups.com, "Laura"
<exgaydates@...> wrote:
>
> Researchers find it shocking that 11 percent of American girls
> between 15 and 19 claim to have same-sex encounters.
> Clearly they've never observed the social rituals of the
> pansexual, bi-queer, metroflexible New York teen.
>
> This is an article from the New Yorker magazine on the underground
> world of bisexuality on middle and high school children.
>
> By Alex Morris
>
> Alair is wearing a tight white tank top cut off above the hem to
show
> her midriff. Her black cargo pants graze the top of her combat
boots,
> and her black leather belt is studded with metal chains that drape
> down at intervals across her hips. She has long blonde curls that
at
> various times have been dyed green, blue, red, purple, and orange.
> ("A mistake," she says. "Even if you mean to dye your hair orange,
> it's still a mistake.") Despite the fact that she's fully clothed,
> she seems somehow exposed, her baby fat lingering in all the right
> places. Walking down the sterile, white halls of Stuyvesant High
> School, she creates a wave of attention. She's not the most
popular
> girl in school, but she is well known. "People like me," she wrote
in
> an instant message. "Well, most of them."
>
>
> Alair is headed for the section of the second-floor hallway where
her
> friends gather every day during their free tenth period for
> the "cuddle puddle," as she calls it. There are girls petting
girls
> and girls petting guys and guys petting guys. She dives into the
> undulating heap of backpacks and blue jeans and emerges between
her
> two best friends, Jane and Elle, whose names have been changed at
> their request. They are all 16, juniors at Stuyvesant. Alair slips
> into Jane's lap, and Elle reclines next to them, watching, cat-
eyed.
> All three have hooked up with each other. All three have hooked up
> with boys—sometimes the same boys. But it's not that they're gay
or
> bisexual, not exactly. Not always.
>
>
>
> Their friend Nathan, a senior with John Lennon hair and glasses,
is
> there with his guitar, strumming softly under the
conversation. "So
> many of the girls here are lesbian or have experimented or are
> confused," he says.
>
>
>
> Ilia, another senior boy, frowns at Nathan's use of labels. "It's
not
> lesbian or bisexual. It's just, whatever . . . "
>
>
>
> Since the school day is winding down, things in the hallway are
> starting to get rowdy. Jane disappears for a while and comes back
> carrying a pint-size girl over her shoulder. "Now I take her off
and
> we have gay sex!" she says gleefully, as she parades back and
forth
> in front of the cuddle puddle. "And it's awesome!" The hijacked
girl
> hangs limply, a smile creeping to her lips. Ilia has stuffed
papers
> up the front of his shirt and prances around on tiptoe, batting
his
> eyes and sticking out his chest. Elle is watching, enthralled, as
two
> boys lock lips across the hall. "Oh, my," she
murmurs. "Homoerotica.
> There's nothing more exciting than watching two men make out." And
> everyone is talking to another girl in the puddle who just "came
> out," meaning she announced that she's now open to sexual
overtures
> from both boys and girls, which makes her a minor celebrity, for a
> little while.
>
>
>
> When asked how many of her female friends have had same-sex
> experiences, Alair answers, "All of them." Then she stops to think
> about it. "All right, maybe 80 percent. At least 80 percent of
them
> have experimented. And they still are. It's either to please a
man,
> or to try it out, or just to be fun, or 'cause you're bored, or
> just 'cause you like it . . . whatever."
>
>
>
> With teenagers there is always a fair amount of posturing when it
> comes to sex, a tendency to exaggerate or trivialize, innocence
mixed
> with swagger. It's also true that the "puddle" is just one clique
at
> Stuyvesant, and that Stuyvesant can hardly be considered a typical
> high school. It attracts the brightest public-school students in
New
> York, and that may be an environment conducive to fewer sexual
> inhibitions. "In our school," Elle says, "people are getting a
better
> education, so they're more open-minded."
>
>
>
> That said, the Stuyvesant cuddle puddle is emblematic of the
changing
> landscape of high-school sexuality across the country. This past
> September, when the National Center for Health Statistics released
> its first survey in which teens were questioned about their sexual
> behavior, 11 percent of American girls polled in the 15-to-19
> demographic claimed to have had same-sex encounters—the same
> percentage of all women ages 15 to 44 who reported same-sex
> experiences, even though the teenagers have much shorter sexual
> histories. It doesn't take a Stuyvesant education to see what this
> means: More girls are experimenting with each other, and they're
> starting younger. And this is a conservative estimate, according
to
> Ritch Savin-Williams, a professor of human development at Cornell
who
> has been conducting research on same-sex-attracted adolescents for
> over twenty years. Depending on how you phrase the questions and
how
> you define sex between women, he believes that "it's possible to
get
> up to 20 percent of teenage girls."
>
> Of course, what can't be expressed in statistical terms is how
> teenagers think about their same-sex interactions. Go to the
schools,
> talk to the kids, and you'll see that somewhere along the line
this
> generation has started to conceive of sexuality differently. Ten
> years ago in the halls of Stuyvesant you might have found a few
goth
> girls kissing goth girls, kids on the fringes defiantly bucking
the
> system. Now you find a group of vaguely progressive but generally
> mainstream kids for whom same-sex intimacy is standard operating
> procedure. "It's not like, Oh, I'm going to hit on her now. It's
just
> kind of like, you come up to a friend, you grab their ass," Alair
> explains. "It's just, like, our way of saying hello." These
teenagers
> don't feel as though their sexuality has to define them, or that
they
> have to define it, which has led some psychologists and child-
> development specialists to label them the "post-gay" generation.
But
> kids like Alair and her friends are in the process of working up
> their own language to describe their behavior. Along with gay,
> straight, and bisexual, they'll drop in new words, some of which
> they've coined themselves: polysexual, ambisexual, pansexual,
> pansensual, polyfide, bi-curious, bi-queer, fluid, metroflexible,
> heteroflexible, heterosexual with lesbian tendencies—or, as Alair
> puts it, "just sexual." The terms are designed less to achieve
> specificity than to leave all options open.
>
>
>
> To some it may sound like a sexual Utopia, where labels have been
> banned and traditional gender roles surpassed, but it's a
complicated
> place to be. Anyone who has ever been a girl in high school knows
the
> vicissitudes of female friendships. Add to that a sexual component
> and, well, things get interesting. Take Alair and her friend Jane,
> for example. "We've been dancing around each other for, like,
three
> years now," says Alair. "I'd hop into bed with her in a second."
Jane
> is tall and curvy with green eyes and faint dimples. She thinks
Alair
> is "amazing," but she's already had a female friendship ruined
when
> it turned into a romantic relationship, so she's reluctant to let
it
> happen again. Still, they pet each other in the hall, flirt, kiss,
> but that's it, so far. "Alair," Jane explains, "is literally in
love
> with everyone and in love with no one."
>
>
>
> Relationships are a bitch, dude."
>
>
>
> Alair is having lunch with Jane, Elle, and their friend Nathan at
a
> little Indian place near Jane's Upper West Side apartment. Jane
has
> been telling the story of her first lesbian relationship: She fell
> for a girl who got arrested while protesting the Republican
National
> Convention (very cool), but the girl stopped calling after they
spent
> the night together (very uncool).
>
>
>
> "We should all be single for the rest of our lives," Alair
> continues. "And we should all have sugar daddies." As the only
child
> of divorced parents, Alair learned early that love doesn't always
end
> in happily ever after and that sex doesn't always end in love.
>
>
>
> Nathan looks across the table at her and nods knowingly. He
recently
> broke up with a girl he still can't get off his mind, even though
he
> wasn't entirely faithful when they were together. "I agree. I
> wholeheartedly agree," he says.
>
>
>
> "I disagree," says Elle, alarmed. She's the romantic of the group,
a
> bit naïve, if you ask the others.
>
>
>
> "Well," says Nathan. "You're, like, the only one in a happy
> relationship right now, so . . . "
>
>
>
> Alair cracks up. "Happy? Her man is gayer than I am!" (Jane, the
> sarcastic one, has a joke about this boy: "He's got one finger
left
> in the closet, and it's in Elle, depending on what time it is.")
>
>
>
> "But at least she's happy," argues Nathan.
>
>
>
> "When I'm single, I say I'm happy I'm single, and when I'm in a
> relationship I seem happy in the relationship. Really, I'm filled
> with angst!" says Elle.
>
>
>
> Nathan rolls his eyes. "Anyone who says they're filled with angst
is
> definitely not filled with angst."
>
>
>
> He's got a point. In her brand-new sneakers and her sparkly
> barrettes, Elle is hardly a poster child for teenage anxiety. She
> makes A's at Stuyvesant, babysits her cousins, and is engaging in
a
> way that will go over well in college interviews.
>
>
>
> Then again, none of them are bad kids. Sure, they drink and smoke
and
> party, but in a couple of years, they'll be drinking and smoking
and
> partying at Princeton or MIT. They had to be pretty serious
students
> to even get into Stuyvesant, which accepts only about 3 percent of
> its applicants. And when they're not studying, they're going to
music
> lessons, SAT prep, debate practice, Japanese class, theater
> rehearsal, or some other résumé-building extracurricular activity.
>
>
> Previous Page 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 Next
>
>
> http://nymag.com/news/features/15589/
>

#21165 From: "Bridget Night" <BridgetNight123@...>
Date: Wed Apr 4, 2007 7:31 am
Subject: Re: [ExGDBd] Re: The Cuddle Puddle of Stuyvesant High School
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Christa, did you get my private email to you about Richards reply to your post? 
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   ----- Original Message -----
   From: ctickle777<mailto:ctickle777@...>
   To:
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>
   Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2007 11:58 PM
   Subject: [ExGDBd] Re: The Cuddle Puddle of Stuyvesant High School


   Thanks for this eye-opening information, Laura! This was a REAL wake-
   up call for parents! Call me naive, but this was very much of a
   shock to me. This article details the ages of the girls
   involved...is 15 an appropriate age, or is this happening sooner?

   Also, how would a parent prevent his/her child from engaging in
   these activities? Are their signs and signals that one's child is
   acting out?

   Personally, homeschooling seems like the best option, possibly
   beginning in middle school if not before.

   Christa

   --- In
exgaydiscussionboard@yahoogroups.com<mailto:exgaydiscussionboard%40yahoogroups.c\
om>, "Laura"
   <exgaydates@...> wrote:
   >
   > Researchers find it shocking that 11 percent of American girls
   > between 15 and 19 claim to have same-sex encounters.
   > Clearly they've never observed the social rituals of the
   > pansexual, bi-queer, metroflexible New York teen.
   >
   > This is an article from the New Yorker magazine on the underground
   > world of bisexuality on middle and high school children.
   >
   > By Alex Morris
   >
   > Alair is wearing a tight white tank top cut off above the hem to
   show
   > her midriff. Her black cargo pants graze the top of her combat
   boots,
   > and her black leather belt is studded with metal chains that drape
   > down at intervals across her hips. She has long blonde curls that
   at
   > various times have been dyed green, blue, red, purple, and orange.
   > ("A mistake," she says. "Even if you mean to dye your hair orange,
   > it's still a mistake.") Despite the fact that she's fully clothed,
   > she seems somehow exposed, her baby fat lingering in all the right
   > places. Walking down the sterile, white halls of Stuyvesant High
   > School, she creates a wave of attention. She's not the most
   popular
   > girl in school, but she is well known. "People like me," she wrote
   in
   > an instant message. "Well, most of them."
   >
   >
   > Alair is headed for the section of the second-floor hallway where
   her
   > friends gather every day during their free tenth period for
   > the "cuddle puddle," as she calls it. There are girls petting
   girls
   > and girls petting guys and guys petting guys. She dives into the
   > undulating heap of backpacks and blue jeans and emerges between
   her
   > two best friends, Jane and Elle, whose names have been changed at
   > their request. They are all 16, juniors at Stuyvesant. Alair slips
   > into Jane's lap, and Elle reclines next to them, watching, cat-
   eyed.
   > All three have hooked up with each other. All three have hooked up
   > with boys-sometimes the same boys. But it's not that they're gay
   or
   > bisexual, not exactly. Not always.
   >
   >
   >
   > Their friend Nathan, a senior with John Lennon hair and glasses,
   is
   > there with his guitar, strumming softly under the
   conversation. "So
   > many of the girls here are lesbian or have experimented or are
   > confused," he says.
   >
   >
   >
   > Ilia, another senior boy, frowns at Nathan's use of labels. "It's
   not
   > lesbian or bisexual. It's just, whatever . . . "
   >
   >
   >
   > Since the school day is winding down, things in the hallway are
   > starting to get rowdy. Jane disappears for a while and comes back
   > carrying a pint-size girl over her shoulder. "Now I take her off
   and
   > we have gay sex!" she says gleefully, as she parades back and
   forth
   > in front of the cuddle puddle. "And it's awesome!" The hijacked
   girl
   > hangs limply, a smile creeping to her lips. Ilia has stuffed
   papers
   > up the front of his shirt and prances around on tiptoe, batting
   his
   > eyes and sticking out his chest. Elle is watching, enthralled, as
   two
   > boys lock lips across the hall. "Oh, my," she
   murmurs. "Homoerotica.
   > There's nothing more exciting than watching two men make out." And
   > everyone is talking to another girl in the puddle who just "came
   > out," meaning she announced that she's now open to sexual
   overtures
   > from both boys and girls, which makes her a minor celebrity, for a
   > little while.
   >
   >
   >
   > When asked how many of her female friends have had same-sex
   > experiences, Alair answers, "All of them." Then she stops to think
   > about it. "All right, maybe 80 percent. At least 80 percent of
   them
   > have experimented. And they still are. It's either to please a
   man,
   > or to try it out, or just to be fun, or 'cause you're bored, or
   > just 'cause you like it . . . whatever."
   >
   >
   >
   > With teenagers there is always a fair amount of posturing when it
   > comes to sex, a tendency to exaggerate or trivialize, innocence
   mixed
   > with swagger. It's also true that the "puddle" is just one clique
   at
   > Stuyvesant, and that Stuyvesant can hardly be considered a typical
   > high school. It attracts the brightest public-school students in
   New
   > York, and that may be an environment conducive to fewer sexual
   > inhibitions. "In our school," Elle says, "people are getting a
   better
   > education, so they're more open-minded."
   >
   >
   >
   > That said, the Stuyvesant cuddle puddle is emblematic of the
   changing
   > landscape of high-school sexuality across the country. This past
   > September, when the National Center for Health Statistics released
   > its first survey in which teens were questioned about their sexual
   > behavior, 11 percent of American girls polled in the 15-to-19
   > demographic claimed to have had same-sex encounters-the same
   > percentage of all women ages 15 to 44 who reported same-sex
   > experiences, even though the teenagers have much shorter sexual
   > histories. It doesn't take a Stuyvesant education to see what this
   > means: More girls are experimenting with each other, and they're
   > starting younger. And this is a conservative estimate, according
   to
   > Ritch Savin-Williams, a professor of human development at Cornell
   who
   > has been conducting research on same-sex-attracted adolescents for
   > over twenty years. Depending on how you phrase the questions and
   how
   > you define sex between women, he believes that "it's possible to
   get
   > up to 20 percent of teenage girls."
   >
   > Of course, what can't be expressed in statistical terms is how
   > teenagers think about their same-sex interactions. Go to the
   schools,
   > talk to the kids, and you'll see that somewhere along the line
   this
   > generation has started to conceive of sexuality differently. Ten
   > years ago in the halls of Stuyvesant you might have found a few
   goth
   > girls kissing goth girls, kids on the fringes defiantly bucking
   the
   > system. Now you find a group of vaguely progressive but generally
   > mainstream kids for whom same-sex intimacy is standard operating
   > procedure. "It's not like, Oh, I'm going to hit on her now. It's
   just
   > kind of like, you come up to a friend, you grab their ass," Alair
   > explains. "It's just, like, our way of saying hello." These
   teenagers
   > don't feel as though their sexuality has to define them, or that
   they
   > have to define it, which has led some psychologists and child-
   > development specialists to label them the "post-gay" generation.
   But
   > kids like Alair and her friends are in the process of working up
   > their own language to describe their behavior. Along with gay,
   > straight, and bisexual, they'll drop in new words, some of which
   > they've coined themselves: polysexual, ambisexual, pansexual,
   > pansensual, polyfide, bi-curious, bi-queer, fluid, metroflexible,
   > heteroflexible, heterosexual with lesbian tendencies-or, as Alair
   > puts it, "just sexual." The terms are designed less to achieve
   > specificity than to leave all options open.
   >
   >
   >
   > To some it may sound like a sexual Utopia, where labels have been
   > banned and traditional gender roles surpassed, but it's a
   complicated
   > place to be. Anyone who has ever been a girl in high school knows
   the
   > vicissitudes of female friendships. Add to that a sexual component
   > and, well, things get interesting. Take Alair and her friend Jane,
   > for example. "We've been dancing around each other for, like,
   three
   > years now," says Alair. "I'd hop into bed with her in a second."
   Jane
   > is tall and curvy with green eyes and faint dimples. She thinks
   Alair
   > is "amazing," but she's already had a female friendship ruined
   when
   > it turned into a romantic relationship, so she's reluctant to let
   it
   > happen again. Still, they pet each other in the hall, flirt, kiss,
   > but that's it, so far. "Alair," Jane explains, "is literally in
   love
   > with everyone and in love with no one."
   >
   >
   >
   > Relationships are a bitch, dude."
   >
   >
   >
   > Alair is having lunch with Jane, Elle, and their friend Nathan at
   a
   > little Indian place near Jane's Upper West Side apartment. Jane
   has
   > been telling the story of her first lesbian relationship: She fell
   > for a girl who got arrested while protesting the Republican
   National
   > Convention (very cool), but the girl stopped calling after they
   spent
   > the night together (very uncool).
   >
   >
   >
   > "We should all be single for the rest of our lives," Alair
   > continues. "And we should all have sugar daddies." As the only
   child
   > of divorced parents, Alair learned early that love doesn't always
   end
   > in happily ever after and that sex doesn't always end in love.
   >
   >
   >
   > Nathan looks across the table at her and nods knowingly. He
   recently
   > broke up with a girl he still can't get off his mind, even though
   he
   > wasn't entirely faithful when they were together. "I agree. I
   > wholeheartedly agree," he says.
   >
   >
   >
   > "I disagree," says Elle, alarmed. She's the romantic of the group,
   a
   > bit naïve, if you ask the others.
   >
   >
   >
   > "Well," says Nathan. "You're, like, the only one in a happy
   > relationship right now, so . . . "
   >
   >
   >
   > Alair cracks up. "Happy? Her man is gayer than I am!" (Jane, the
   > sarcastic one, has a joke about this boy: "He's got one finger
   left
   > in the closet, and it's in Elle, depending on what time it is.")
   >
   >
   >
   > "But at least she's happy," argues Nathan.
   >
   >
   >
   > "When I'm single, I say I'm happy I'm single, and when I'm in a
   > relationship I seem happy in the relationship. Really, I'm filled
   > with angst!" says Elle.
   >
   >
   >
   > Nathan rolls his eyes. "Anyone who says they're filled with angst
   is
   > definitely not filled with angst."
   >
   >
   >
   > He's got a point. In her brand-new sneakers and her sparkly
   > barrettes, Elle is hardly a poster child for teenage anxiety. She
   > makes A's at Stuyvesant, babysits her cousins, and is engaging in
   a
   > way that will go over well in college interviews.
   >
   >
   >
   > Then again, none of them are bad kids. Sure, they drink and smoke
   and
   > party, but in a couple of years, they'll be drinking and smoking
   and
   > partying at Princeton or MIT. They had to be pretty serious
   students
   > to even get into Stuyvesant, which accepts only about 3 percent of
   > its applicants. And when they're not studying, they're going to
   music
   > lessons, SAT prep, debate practice, Japanese class, theater
   > rehearsal, or some other résumé-building extracurricular activity.
   >
   >
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#21166 From: "Laura" <exgaydates@...>
Date: Wed Apr 4, 2007 5:44 pm
Subject: Ex Gay Mormon Links
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#21167 From: "Laura" <exgaydates@...>
Date: Thu Apr 5, 2007 1:57 am
Subject: Is CNN's Anderson Cooper Gay??
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Anderson Cooper is doing a show on "What is a Christian"
and will feature a group of ex ex gay activist?

Anderson is know to have been awarded gay jounalist awards
and some blogs have stated he may be gay!

If this is true then I think he may be an gay activist
trying to pretend to be balanced!

I am not sure but does any one know who on CNN or
other news outlets are gay?

I think this is important before people go live
onthere televison shows.

http://www.nlgja.org/

NLGJA is an organization of journalists, media professionals,
educators and students who work within the news industry to foster
fair and accurate coverage of LGBT issues. NLGJA opposes all forms
of workplace bias and provides professional development to its
members.

In other words it tries to silence anything not pro gay
in the media!

#21168 From: "Laura" <exgaydates@...>
Date: Thu Apr 5, 2007 2:02 am
Subject: www.NotOurKids.com ..Are You a Parent? Join the "Not Our Kids" Campaign
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WASHINGTON, March 27 / -- A national pro-family coalition,
www.NotOurKids.com, is calling upon parents to keep their children
home from school on April 18 -- to avoid GLSEN's homosexual "Day of
Silence," in which students and some supportive faculty
intentionally remain silent throughout the school day to protest
alleged oppression of homosexuals.



"Day of Silence" (DOS) is an annual event promoted by GLSEN, the
Gay, Lesbian & Straight Education Network, and is scheduled for
Wednesday, April 18 this year.  (Some schools observe DOS a few days
earlier or later than the official date.) In 2006, over 4,000 junior
highs, high schools, and colleges participated in DOS, according to
GLSEN.



Many school district superintendents, principals, and faculty
members also endorse, promote or allow DOS -- subjecting traditional
students to pro-"gay" activism that violates their religious beliefs
and right to a non-politicized education. To find out what schools
are likely participating in this year's DOS, please visit:
www.NotOurKids.com/schools.html.


According to GLSEN, on last year's Day of Silence, over 500,000
students nationwide were confronted with mute homosexual peers
and "allies" wearing stickers and passing out cards, which stated
(in part):


"... My deliberate silence echoes that silence, which is caused by
harassment, prejudice, and discrimination. I believe that ending the
silence is the first step toward fighting these injustices. Think
about the voices you are not hearing today. What are you going to do
to end the silence?"


www.NotOurKids.com is a coalition of pro-family groups who object to
the disruptive political hijacking of America's classrooms by pro-
homosexual advocates. www.NotOurKids.com educates parents, teachers
and America about the deceptive agenda behind GLSEN's Day of
Silence. The coalition seeks to protect America's youth from being
pressured to approve of homosexual, bisexual, or "transgender"
behavior.


"Teenagers deserve an opportunity to study English, history, math,
and science -- without being subjected to pro-homosexual
proselytizing sanctioned by school authorities. Students shouldn't
be forced to self-censor or adopt beliefs contrary to those of their
parents and places of worship," said Linda Harvey of Mission
America, a coalition member.  "Even the strongest of our junior high
and high school children are not equipped to serve as frontline
soldiers in this culture war."


For a complete list of the coalition's sponsoring groups, please
visit www.NotOurKids.com.


www.NotOurKids.com is a coalition of pro-family groups who object to
the disruptive political hijacking of America's classrooms by pro-
homosexual advocates. www.NotOurKids.com educates parents, teachers
and America about the deceptive agenda behind GLSEN's Day of
Silence. The coalition seeks to protect America's youth from being
pressured to approve of homosexual, bisexual, or "transgender"
behavior.

#21169 From: "Laura" <exgaydates@...>
Date: Thu Apr 5, 2007 2:08 am
Subject: Full List of Pro Gay Public Schools..Is you're childs School on it?
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Parents: Keep your kids home if your school is officially holding,
or benignly allowing, this pro-homosexual event.



Boycott the DAY of SILENCE !

Parents: Keep your kids home if your school is officially holding,
or benignly allowing, this pro-homosexual event.

Scheduled for Wednesday,April 18, some schools are observing it on
other days, so check with your local school. Ask your child also--he
or she probably knows!

HOW DO YOU KEEP YOUR KIDS HOME? You can basically choose from two
options:

1. Inform the school of your intentions and reasons up front--- or

2.Your child could discover he or she is sick that day. The
political climate of many schools is enough to make most people
sick, indeed.

We encourage number 1, but we can't make this decision for you. Let
your conscience be your guide.


If you want to announce your intentions and inform the
administration, we have included a sample letter at the end of the
list below for parents to send to the school administration.


From the information we have based on current homosexual clubs as
well as past Day of Silence participation and school homosexual
activism, the following schools are those participating.

(Note: If we have listed a school in error, we apologize, and will
issue a correction immediately. Please e-mail us with your
correction, at editor@... .)


Alabama

BOOKER T WASHINGTON MAGNET HIGH SCHOOL
NORTHVIEW HIGH SCHOOL

Alaska

CHUGIAK HIGH SCHOOL
SOUTH ANCHORAGE HIGH SCHOOL
STELLER SECONDARY SCHOOL
WEST HIGH SCHOOL
WEST VALLEY HIGH SCHOOL
MONROE CATHOLIC HIGH
POLARIS K-12 SCHOOL
SERVICE HIGH SCHOOL

Arizona

AMPHITHEATER HIGH SCHOOL
ARIZONA SCHOOL FOR THE ARTS
BROPHY COLLEGE PREPARATORY
CAMELBACK HIGH SCHOOL
CANYON DEL ORO HIGH SCHOOL
CATALINA FOOTHILLS HIGH SCHOOL
CATALINA HIGH MAGNET SCHOOL
CHANDLER HIGH SCHOOL
CHAPARRAL HIGH SCHOOL
CHOLLA HIGH MAGNET SCHOOL
CIENEGA HIGH SCHOOL
CORONA DEL SOL HIGH SCHOOL
DESERT MOUNTAIN HIGH SCHOOL
DESERT RIDGE HIGH SCHOOL
DESERT VIEW HIGH SCHOOL
DOBSON HIGH SCHOOL
DOOLEN MIDDLE SCHOOL
FLAGSTAFF HIGH SCHOOL
FLOWING WELLS HIGH SCHOOL
GILBERT HIGH SCHOOL
GREENWAY HIGH SCHOOL
HORIZON HIGH SCHOOL
HOWENSTINE HIGH SCHOOL
IRONWOOD RIDGE HIGH SCHOOL
MOUNTAIN VIEW HIGH SCHOOL
NORTH HIGH SCHOOL
PALO VERDE HIGH MAGNET SCHOOL
PARADISE VALLEY HIGH SCHOOL
PHOENIX COUNTRY DAY SCHOOL
PUEBLO MAGNET HIGH SCHOOL
RED MOUNTAIN HIGH SCHOOL
SABINO HIGH SCHOOL
SAGUARO HIGH SCHOOL
ST.GREGORY COLLEGE PREP
SAHUARO HIGH SCHOOL
SUNNYSIDE HIGH SCHOOL
TEMPE ACCELERATED HIGH SCHOOL
THUNDERBIRD HIGH SCHOOL CLUB
TUCSON HIGH SCIENCE AND TECH
TUCSON HIGH SCHOOL
TUCSON MAGNET HIGH SCHOOL
WESTWOOD HIGH SCHOOL
YUMA HIGH SCHOOL

Arkansas

ARKANSAS CITY HIGH SCHOOL
MOUNTAIN HOME HIGH SCHOOL

California

ABRAHAM LINCOLN HIGH SCHOOL
ACADEMY OF OUR LADY OF PEACE
ACALANES HIGH SCHOOL
AGOURA HIGH SCHOOL
ALBANY HIGH SCHOOL
ALHAMBRA SENIOR HIGH
ALTA LOMA HIGH SCHOOL
AMADOR HIGH SCHOOL
ANALY HIGH SCHOOL
ANDERSON VALLEY JR./SR. HIGH SCHOOL
ANTIOCH HIGH SCHOOL
APTOS HIGH SCHOOL
ARCADIA HIGH SCHOOL
ARCATA HIGH SCHOOL
ARROYO HIGH SCHOOL
AZUSA HIGH SCHOOL
BARSTOW HIGH SCHOOL
BENTLEY HIGH SCHOOL
BERKELEY HIGH SCHOOL
BEVERLY HILLS HIGH SCHOOL
BIRMINGHAM SENIOR HIGH
BONITA VISTA SENIOR HIGH
THE BRANSON SCHOOL
BRENTWOOD SCHOOL
BURLINGAME HIGH SCHOOL
CABRILLO SENIOR HIGH SCHOOL
CALEXICO HIGH SCHOOL
CALIFORNIA ACADEMY OF MATHEMATICS & SCIENCE
CAMPBELL HALL (EPISCOPAL) SCHOOL
CAMPOLINDO HIGH
CARLMONT HIGH SCHOOL
CARMEL HIGH SCHOOL
CARONDELET HIGH SCHOOL
CARSON SENIOR HIGH SCHOOL
CASA GRANDE HIGH SCHOOL
CASTRO VALLEY HIGH SCHOOL
CATHEDRAL CITY HIGH SCHOOL
CERES HIGH SCHOOL
CERRITOS HIGH SCHOOL
CHAPARRAL HIGH SCHOOL
CHULA VISTA SENIOR HIGH
CLAIREMONT SENIOR HIGH
CLAYTON VALLEY HIGH SCHOOL
CLOVIS HIGH SCHOOL
COLLEGE PARK HIGH SCHOOL
COLTON HIGH SCHOOL
CONCORD HIGH SCHOOL
CORDOVA HIGH SCHOOL

FOR FULL LIST GO HERE

http://www.missionamerica.com/agenda.php?articlenum=68

#21170 From: "ctickle777" <ctickle777@...>
Date: Thu Apr 5, 2007 4:47 am
Subject: [ExGDBd] Re: The Cuddle Puddle of Stuyvesant High School
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Hey Bridget,

No, actually, I didn't. I'll do a search and see if it pops up. I've
been so busy lately...I'm a bit behind on email. You guys doing okay?

Christa : )

--- In exgaydiscussionboard@yahoogroups.com, "Bridget Night"
<BridgetNight123@...> wrote:
>
> Christa, did you get my private email to you about Richards reply
to your post?  Bridget
>
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3>
>   ----- Original Message -----
>   From: ctickle777<mailto:ctickle777@...>
>   To:
exgaydiscussionboard@yahoogroups.com<mailto:exgaydiscussionboard@yaho
ogroups.com>
>   Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2007 11:58 PM
>   Subject: [ExGDBd] Re: The Cuddle Puddle of Stuyvesant High School
>
>
>   Thanks for this eye-opening information, Laura! This was a REAL
wake-
>   up call for parents! Call me naive, but this was very much of a
>   shock to me. This article details the ages of the girls
>   involved...is 15 an appropriate age, or is this happening
sooner?
>
>   Also, how would a parent prevent his/her child from engaging in
>   these activities? Are their signs and signals that one's child
is
>   acting out?
>
>   Personally, homeschooling seems like the best option, possibly
>   beginning in middle school if not before.
>
>   Christa
>
>   --- In
exgaydiscussionboard@yahoogroups.com<mailto:exgaydiscussionboard%
40yahoogroups.com>, "Laura"
>   <exgaydates@> wrote:
>   >
>   > Researchers find it shocking that 11 percent of American girls
>   > between 15 and 19 claim to have same-sex encounters.
>   > Clearly they've never observed the social rituals of the
>   > pansexual, bi-queer, metroflexible New York teen.
>   >
>   > This is an article from the New Yorker magazine on the
underground
>   > world of bisexuality on middle and high school children.
>   >
>   > By Alex Morris
>   >
>   > Alair is wearing a tight white tank top cut off above the hem
to
>   show
>   > her midriff. Her black cargo pants graze the top of her combat
>   boots,
>   > and her black leather belt is studded with metal chains that
drape
>   > down at intervals across her hips. She has long blonde curls
that
>   at
>   > various times have been dyed green, blue, red, purple, and
orange.
>   > ("A mistake," she says. "Even if you mean to dye your hair
orange,
>   > it's still a mistake.") Despite the fact that she's fully
clothed,
>   > she seems somehow exposed, her baby fat lingering in all the
right
>   > places. Walking down the sterile, white halls of Stuyvesant
High
>   > School, she creates a wave of attention. She's not the most
>   popular
>   > girl in school, but she is well known. "People like me," she
wrote
>   in
>   > an instant message. "Well, most of them."
>   >
>   >
>   > Alair is headed for the section of the second-floor hallway
where
>   her
>   > friends gather every day during their free tenth period for
>   > the "cuddle puddle," as she calls it. There are girls petting
>   girls
>   > and girls petting guys and guys petting guys. She dives into
the
>   > undulating heap of backpacks and blue jeans and emerges
between
>   her
>   > two best friends, Jane and Elle, whose names have been changed
at
>   > their request. They are all 16, juniors at Stuyvesant. Alair
slips
>   > into Jane's lap, and Elle reclines next to them, watching, cat-
>   eyed.
>   > All three have hooked up with each other. All three have
hooked up
>   > with boys-sometimes the same boys. But it's not that they're
gay
>   or
>   > bisexual, not exactly. Not always.
>   >
>   >
>   >
>   > Their friend Nathan, a senior with John Lennon hair and
glasses,
>   is
>   > there with his guitar, strumming softly under the
>   conversation. "So
>   > many of the girls here are lesbian or have experimented or are
>   > confused," he says.
>   >
>   >
>   >
>   > Ilia, another senior boy, frowns at Nathan's use of
labels. "It's
>   not
>   > lesbian or bisexual. It's just, whatever . . . "
>   >
>   >
>   >
>   > Since the school day is winding down, things in the hallway
are
>   > starting to get rowdy. Jane disappears for a while and comes
back
>   > carrying a pint-size girl over her shoulder. "Now I take her
off
>   and
>   > we have gay sex!" she says gleefully, as she parades back and
>   forth
>   > in front of the cuddle puddle. "And it's awesome!" The
hijacked
>   girl
>   > hangs limply, a smile creeping to her lips. Ilia has stuffed
>   papers
>   > up the front of his shirt and prances around on tiptoe,
batting
>   his
>   > eyes and sticking out his chest. Elle is watching, enthralled,
as
>   two
>   > boys lock lips across the hall. "Oh, my," she
>   murmurs. "Homoerotica.
>   > There's nothing more exciting than watching two men make out."
And
>   > everyone is talking to another girl in the puddle who
just "came
>   > out," meaning she announced that she's now open to sexual
>   overtures
>   > from both boys and girls, which makes her a minor celebrity,
for a
>   > little while.
>   >
>   >
>   >
>   > When asked how many of her female friends have had same-sex
>   > experiences, Alair answers, "All of them." Then she stops to
think
>   > about it. "All right, maybe 80 percent. At least 80 percent of
>   them
>   > have experimented. And they still are. It's either to please a
>   man,
>   > or to try it out, or just to be fun, or 'cause you're bored,
or
>   > just 'cause you like it . . . whatever."
>   >
>   >
>   >
>   > With teenagers there is always a fair amount of posturing when
it
>   > comes to sex, a tendency to exaggerate or trivialize,
innocence
>   mixed
>   > with swagger. It's also true that the "puddle" is just one
clique
>   at
>   > Stuyvesant, and that Stuyvesant can hardly be considered a
typical
>   > high school. It attracts the brightest public-school students
in
>   New
>   > York, and that may be an environment conducive to fewer sexual
>   > inhibitions. "In our school," Elle says, "people are getting a
>   better
>   > education, so they're more open-minded."
>   >
>   >
>   >
>   > That said, the Stuyvesant cuddle puddle is emblematic of the
>   changing
>   > landscape of high-school sexuality across the country. This
past
>   > September, when the National Center for Health Statistics
released
>   > its first survey in which teens were questioned about their
sexual
>   > behavior, 11 percent of American girls polled in the 15-to-19
>   > demographic claimed to have had same-sex encounters-the same
>   > percentage of all women ages 15 to 44 who reported same-sex
>   > experiences, even though the teenagers have much shorter
sexual
>   > histories. It doesn't take a Stuyvesant education to see what
this
>   > means: More girls are experimenting with each other, and
they're
>   > starting younger. And this is a conservative estimate,
according
>   to
>   > Ritch Savin-Williams, a professor of human development at
Cornell
>   who
>   > has been conducting research on same-sex-attracted adolescents
for
>   > over twenty years. Depending on how you phrase the questions
and
>   how
>   > you define sex between women, he believes that "it's possible
to
>   get
>   > up to 20 percent of teenage girls."
>   >
>   > Of course, what can't be expressed in statistical terms is how
>   > teenagers think about their same-sex interactions. Go to the
>   schools,
>   > talk to the kids, and you'll see that somewhere along the line
>   this
>   > generation has started to conceive of sexuality differently.
Ten
>   > years ago in the halls of Stuyvesant you might have found a
few
>   goth
>   > girls kissing goth girls, kids on the fringes defiantly
bucking
>   the
>   > system. Now you find a group of vaguely progressive but
generally
>   > mainstream kids for whom same-sex intimacy is standard
operating
>   > procedure. "It's not like, Oh, I'm going to hit on her now.
It's
>   just
>   > kind of like, you come up to a friend, you grab their ass,"
Alair
>   > explains. "It's just, like, our way of saying hello." These
>   teenagers
>   > don't feel as though their sexuality has to define them, or
that
>   they
>   > have to define it, which has led some psychologists and child-
>   > development specialists to label them the "post-gay"
generation.
>   But
>   > kids like Alair and her friends are in the process of working
up
>   > their own language to describe their behavior. Along with gay,
>   > straight, and bisexual, they'll drop in new words, some of
which
>   > they've coined themselves: polysexual, ambisexual, pansexual,
>   > pansensual, polyfide, bi-curious, bi-queer, fluid,
metroflexible,
>   > heteroflexible, heterosexual with lesbian tendencies-or, as
Alair
>   > puts it, "just sexual." The terms are designed less to achieve
>   > specificity than to leave all options open.
>   >
>   >
>   >
>   > To some it may sound like a sexual Utopia, where labels have
been
>   > banned and traditional gender roles surpassed, but it's a
>   complicated
>   > place to be. Anyone who has ever been a girl in high school
knows
>   the
>   > vicissitudes of female friendships. Add to that a sexual
component
>   > and, well, things get interesting. Take Alair and her friend
Jane,
>   > for example. "We've been dancing around each other for, like,
>   three
>   > years now," says Alair. "I'd hop into bed with her in a
second."
>   Jane
>   > is tall and curvy with green eyes and faint dimples. She
thinks
>   Alair
>   > is "amazing," but she's already had a female friendship ruined
>   when
>   > it turned into a romantic relationship, so she's reluctant to
let
>   it
>   > happen again. Still, they pet each other in the hall, flirt,
kiss,
>   > but that's it, so far. "Alair," Jane explains, "is literally
in
>   love
>   > with everyone and in love with no one."
>   >
>   >
>   >
>   > Relationships are a bitch, dude."
>   >
>   >
>   >
>   > Alair is having lunch with Jane, Elle, and their friend Nathan
at
>   a
>   > little Indian place near Jane's Upper West Side apartment.
Jane
>   has
>   > been telling the story of her first lesbian relationship: She
fell
>   > for a girl who got arrested while protesting the Republican
>   National
>   > Convention (very cool), but the girl stopped calling after
they
>   spent
>   > the night together (very uncool).
>   >
>   >
>   >
>   > "We should all be single for the rest of our lives," Alair
>   > continues. "And we should all have sugar daddies." As the only
>   child
>   > of divorced parents, Alair learned early that love doesn't
always
>   end
>   > in happily ever after and that sex doesn't always end in love.
>   >
>   >
>   >
>   > Nathan looks across the table at her and nods knowingly. He
>   recently
>   > broke up with a girl he still can't get off his mind, even
though
>   he
>   > wasn't entirely faithful when they were together. "I agree. I
>   > wholeheartedly agree," he says.
>   >
>   >
>   >
>   > "I disagree," says Elle, alarmed. She's the romantic of the
group,
>   a
>   > bit naïve, if you ask the others.
>   >
>   >
>   >
>   > "Well," says Nathan. "You're, like, the only one in a happy
>   > relationship right now, so . . . "
>   >
>   >
>   >
>   > Alair cracks up. "Happy? Her man is gayer than I am!" (Jane,
the
>   > sarcastic one, has a joke about this boy: "He's got one finger
>   left
>   > in the closet, and it's in Elle, depending on what time it
is.")
>   >
>   >
>   >
>   > "But at least she's happy," argues Nathan.
>   >
>   >
>   >
>   > "When I'm single, I say I'm happy I'm single, and when I'm in
a
>   > relationship I seem happy in the relationship. Really, I'm
filled
>   > with angst!" says Elle.
>   >
>   >
>   >
>   > Nathan rolls his eyes. "Anyone who says they're filled with
angst
>   is
>   > definitely not filled with angst."
>   >
>   >
>   >
>   > He's got a point. In her brand-new sneakers and her sparkly
>   > barrettes, Elle is hardly a poster child for teenage anxiety.
She
>   > makes A's at Stuyvesant, babysits her cousins, and is engaging
in
>   a
>   > way that will go over well in college interviews.
>   >
>   >
>   >
>   > Then again, none of them are bad kids. Sure, they drink and
smoke
>   and
>   > party, but in a couple of years, they'll be drinking and
smoking
>   and
>   > partying at Princeton or MIT. They had to be pretty serious
>   students
>   > to even get into Stuyvesant, which accepts only about 3
percent of
>   > its applicants. And when they're not studying, they're going
to
>   music
>   > lessons, SAT prep, debate practice, Japanese class, theater
>   > rehearsal, or some other résumé-building extracurricular
activity.
>   >
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#21171 From: Thomas Morey <moreytom@...>
Date: Thu Apr 5, 2007 8:38 pm
Subject: Mass. governor blasted for approving 'same-sex' marriage certificates
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April 5, 2007

Mass. governor blasted for approving 'same-sex'
marriage certificates

Allie Martin
OneNewsNow.com

An official with the Thomas More Law Center says it's
disgraceful that the governor of Massachusetts has
ordered state officials to record the marriages of 26
out-of-state homosexual couples, whose unions were
blocked by former Governor Mitt Romney.

Last year, the Bay State's Supreme Judicial Court
ruled that Romney could use a 1913 law to prohibit
out-of-state couples from getting married in
Massachusetts if their home states prohibited same-sex
"marriage." The former governor used that law to block
the marriages of 26 out-of-state homosexual couples.
Now, Massachusetts Governor Deval Patrick says state
officials can list the marriage certificates in state
records.

Brian Rooney, a spokesman with the Thomas More Law
Center, says homosexual activists realize they must
use the legislature and liberal politicians to push
their agenda. "The homosexual agenda knows they can't
win with the American people," says Rooney, "but
they're trying to do it through the courts -- and they
started it in Massachusetts."

And then in New Jersey last fall, he adds, where civil
unions were "mandated" upon the state's lawmakers by
that state's high court. Rooney says he finds it
"untoward" for one branch of government to treat
another that way. "How can one branch of government
tell another branch of government what they have to
do?" he asks.

According to Rooney, lawmakers in Massachusetts and
other states have the power to remove judges who do
not uphold state constitutions. But, he says most
lawmakers are fearful of the backlash from
pro-homosexual activists -- leaving, he believes, the
majority of people in the political middle "scratching
their heads [and asking] 'When did homosexual marriage
become the norm in my state?'"

The Law Center spokesman says Governor Patrick's
decision could have a negative impact on other states,
as same-sex couples who were "wed" in Massachusetts
demand their so-called marriages be recognized in
their home states as well.

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#21172 From: Thomas Morey <moreytom@...>
Date: Thu Apr 5, 2007 8:52 pm
Subject: LA fertility clinic provides for homosexual parent candidates
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April 5, 2007

LA fertility clinic provides for homosexual parent
candidates

Ed Thomas
OneNewsNow.com

The chairman for a pro-family think tank in Colorado
Springs says a Los Angeles fertility clinic's
dedicated program for homosexual men wanting to be
parents is just a natural extension of the ongoing
attempt to convince society that an environment
containing homosexuality is safe for children.

Saying it is responding to requests from men across
the country whose state laws often will not allow them
to adopt, The Fertility Institutes tests and treats
homosexual men for diseases, quarantines their sperm
for six months, then obtains paid surrogate mothers to
use it for conception -- as well as lawyers for the
legal transactions involved -- at a cost of about
$60,000, according to a report from Reuters News. In
addition, clients can pay an additional fee to pick
the gender of their child.

According to the Institutes website, advancements in
surrogacy technology and methodology -- combined with
"innovative legal and medical parenting arrangements"
handled by the Institutes -- have made "gay parenthood
[an] achievable and affordable option" for homosexual
men. Institutes director Dr. Jeffery Steinberg tells
Reuters that about 70 male homosexual couples from the
U.S., Britain, Germany, and elsewhere have taken part.

Dr. Paul Cameron of the Family Research Institute says
all of this ignores study results, and complaints of
children of homosexual parents, that this social
environment fosters more homosexually-inclined
children.

"Gays are more apt to raise homosexually-inclined
children," says Cameron, "and if the children don't
turn out homosexually inclined, they turn out to be
somewhere between confused [and] not very stable."

According to Dr. Cameron, empirical studies show that
regardless if the result is a child with heterosexual
or homosexual tendencies, children of homosexual
parents are more likely to be sexually active and
unsteady in relationships.

"They're more apt to shack-up, they're more apt to
have a series of promiscuous kinds of relationships,"
he explains. "And if they do get married -- and
they're less apt to get married -- their marriages
tend to be less stable, as near as we can tell."

Cameron says the divorce rate for homosexual couples
in countries allowing same-sex "marriage" is doubled
(among male couples) and quadrupled (among female
couples) -- another aspect he says demonstrates that
such a family environment is not good for children.

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#21173 From: Thomas Morey <moreytom@...>
Date: Thu Apr 5, 2007 8:57 pm
Subject: Virginia UMC pastor accepts practicing homosexual as member
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April 5, 2007

Virginia UMC pastor accepts practicing homosexual as
member

Allie Martin
OneNewsNow.com

An official with the Institute on Religion and
Democracy believes the recent approval of an active
homosexual for membership at a Virginia United
Methodist church will force the denomination to take a
closer look at its guidelines for church membership.

Minister Ed Johnson, who was pastor of South Hill
United Methodist Church, was approached two years ago
by a homosexual man who wanted to join the
congregation. Johnson declined to grant immediate
church membership to the man, who was living with his
partner.

The presiding bishop, Charlene Kammerer, removed
Johnson from his pulpit and eventually moved him to
another congregation. The new pastor at South Hill
United Methodist Church has accepted the homosexual
man for membership, despite the UMC's teaching that
homosexuality is incompatible with Christian teaching.

Mark Tooley, director of United Methodist Action at
the Institute on Religion and Democracy, feels this
case will prove helpful and challenging to the church.
It is a chance "for us to confront what the liberal
side of the church has been advocating," he says,
"which is that church membership is a right to which
everyone is entitled, because they believe in a gospel
of what they call inclusiveness rather than in the
gospel of what, I think, the orthodox would call
divine calling."

According to Tooley, the liberalism in the United
Methodist Church has contributed to the denomination's
rapid membership decline over the past 40 years.
Having been an outspoken critic of the church's
liberal policies, he says he is not surprised the
Virginia pastor now in the pulpit at South Hill UMC
has allowed an active homosexual man to join his
congregation.

But despite current liberal influences in the United
Methodist Church, Tooley believes new leadership in
the UMC will eventually get the denomination back on
track.

"The Bishop of Virginia represents the outgoing
generation of leadership who rose up in the church in
the 1960s," the IRD spokesman notes. "And gradually
those liberal leaders will be replaced by more
orthodox leaders," he says, "especially in the
international church, which is overwhelmingly
conservative theologically."

Tooley says church membership is a privilege, not an
automatic right. As director of UM Action, he is
involved in that group's stated mission of defending
"traditional Christian beliefs and practices in the
spirit of the father of Methodism, John Wesley."

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#21174 From: "Laura" <exgaydates@...>
Date: Thu Apr 5, 2007 9:51 pm
Subject: Out magazine's "OUT'S "....Anderson Cooper!!!!!!!
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Wow, I knew I was on to something!

How ironic!

"50 Most Powerful Gay Men and Women in America"

When New York did a "Gay Life Now" issue in 2001, only seven of the
forty prominent New York gays asked to pose for the cover were
willing. Those big shots may have been gay, and they may have been
out, but it just wouldn't do for them to be gay and out on the cover
of a magazine.

"There was a time when the closet was a necessary safe haven," our
pal Maer Roshan, who edited the issue, wrote in an angry 2,000-word
essay. "But now, it exists as an anachronistic monument to shame.
It's time for our public figures to stop hiding in there — and for
journalists to stop helping them." Six years and a month later,
maybe at least that second part has come true.

Here's a first glimpse at the cover of Out magazine's "50 Most
Powerful Gay Men and Women in America" issue. (Click here for a
larger image.) Those are models holding Jodie Foster and Anderson
Cooper masks on the cover. Neither, of course, would appear
themselves.

1. David Geffen
2. Anderson Cooper
3. Ellen DeGeneres
4. Tim Gill
5. Barney Frank
6. Rosie O'Donnell
7. The New York Times Gay Mafia: Richard Berke, Ben Brantley, Frank
Bruni, Stuart Elliott, Adam Nagourney, Stefano Tonchi, and Eric
Wilson
8. Marc Jacobs
9. Andrew Tobias
10. Brian Graden
11. Jann Wenner
12. Andrew Sullivan
13. Suze Orman
14. Joe Solmonese
15. Fred Hochberg
16. Christine Quinn
17. Perez Hilton
18. Scott Rudin
19. John Aravosis
20. Sheila Kuehl
21. James B. Stewart
22. Nick Denton
23. Tom Ford
24. Nate Berkus
25. Adam Moss
26. Jim Nelson
27. Lorri L. Jean
28. Adam Rose
29. Annie Leibovitz
30. Simon Halls and Stephen Huvane
31. Bryan Lourd
32. Bryan Singer
33. Jonathan Burnham
34. Brian Swardstrom
35. Robert Greenblatt
36. Chi Chi LaRue
37. Dan Mathews
38. Neil Meron and Craig Zadan
39. Ingrid Sischy
40. Marc Cherry
41. Carolyn Strauss
42. Irshad Manji
43. Jodie Foster
44. Christine Vachon
45. André Leon Talley
46. Hilary Rosen
47. Matthew Marks
48. Benny Medina
49. Mitchell Gold
50. David Kuhn

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#21175 From: "Laura" <exgaydates@...>
Date: Thu Apr 5, 2007 10:01 pm
Subject: Struggling Alone
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Struggling Alone

by Ryan T. Anderson

Copyright (c) 2007 First Things (February 2007).

He came out to me in an email. I've known him for years, long enough
that I can't remember when we first met, and we were recently
emailing back and forth about our lives, our futures-the kind of
stuff separated friends discuss. Along the way he mentioned, in an
aside, that he had some - lingering troubles he had to work his way
through. My reply asked for an explanation-and that's when he told
me.

Over the past three years, "Chris" (let's call him) has experienced
a pronounced attraction to other males-for one old friend from high
school in particular. A crush, maybe, or an infatuation. Whatever it
was, he knew it wasn't healthy. And though he had never acted on the
attraction, he explained, it led to fantasies and lusts he didn't
want. So he made a resolution never to embrace them as essential to
his identity or accept them as permanent or untreatable-a resolution
he has kept practically alone, without the support of community,
family, or friends. Over the course of many phone calls and emails,
he shared with me his reflections on what he thought had created his
problem of same-sex attractions. He described an "exceedingly close,
best-friendly relationship" to his mother, often serving the role of
her sole confidant, and a subsequent alienation from his father.
Relationships with his friends, he thought, also contributed, as he
suffered through "deeply hurtful rejection" by male peers, along
with "oscillations between reverence for and fear of typically
masculine" classmates. Once puberty hit, this took on sexual
connotations, as Chris began experiencing "eroticized desire" for
traits he found in other males that he himself lacked.

All this resulted in his dividing males into those he
found "superior and feared (because of their strongly masculine
features)," and those he found "inferior and disdained (because of
their lack thereof)." But it affected his overall personality, too.
He developed, he wrote, a "passive-aggressive, detachedly defensive
and otherwise manipulative behavior toward males" and a "woeful
inability" to assert himself as others do. The overarching weakness,
he thought, was "a deep need to fulfill the emasculating and benign-
to-a-fault role of the good little boy who pleases Mom by following
all rules (the civil law, school rules, conventional morality,
politeness, etc.) [while] remaining unthreatening and unphysical."

What he described seemed an accurate summary of the person I have
known for years. So when he pointed to the likely causes and said he
was seeking help in addressing them, I was supportive. "I would be
untrue to myself if I simply accepted this condition right now," he
wrote. "I would be denying what I've come to believe-what I believe
I know-to be the causes and potential cures of this condition in my
case." Some people say that change isn't possible, but he thinks
that with God all things are, and he at least wants to try to do his
part.

Chris' situation is sad, but it seems to be moving somewhere. He
told me how he had cried daily for the first two years of his same-
sex attractions, knowing that he was becoming someone he didn't want
to be. But during the third year he found a good therapist and began
making progress. He set out to find "healthy male affirmation
through deep, non-erotic same-sex friendships"-along with
a "purification of memory regarding the hurts of the past" and a
more masculine view of himself. Without any reason to exaggerate his
progress, he assured me he is "100 times happier and healthier than
before-though not yet whole." Even friends and relatives who do not
know about his struggles have remarked on his increased serenity and
joy.

Other than his confessor and therapist, I'm the only person who
knows. His parents would be devastated-his mother wondering whether
she had caused it, his father fearing he had failed his son. His
roommates and friends wouldn't know how to take it. Others on campus
would encourage him to embrace his true self: They'd label him a
homosexual and call him gay. But he's not-and neither does he want
to be: Sexual attraction, he thinks, doesn't define a person.
Indeed, he particularly fears coming out about his attractions while
struggling against them, which would get him labeled a repressed
homosexual, the gay-basher who himself is queer, the gay kid who
thinks it's just some disorder. All he wants is to live chastely and
try to make progress in addressing the causes of his same-sex
attractions. But at the modern American university, this is
anathema. For all their celebrations of diversity and pledges of
tolerance, this choice is not to be - celebrated or even tolerated.

Like many schools, Chris' university has an LGBTQA center (an
official office supporting "lesbian, gay, bisexual, transgendered,
queer, and allied" students). Had he been seeking advice on how to
embrace his same-sex attractions, perform sexually as a gay man, or
develop a romantic homosexual relationship, he would have been
welcomed. Wanting instead help to live chastely, he found nothing.
Worse than nothing, he found rejection. Such centers routinely
sponsor public lectures attacking Christian responses to same-sex
attractions, calls to chastity, and attempts to seek therapy.

You might think Chris could find help at the university's religious-
life center. But with pink pride triangles on every interior door,
that office, too, has embraced the gay-pride movement. The college
hosts an annual Pride Sunday Liturgy in lieu of regular chapel
worship-for pride, apparently, is the proper liturgical response to
homosexuality-and sponsors public lectures with titles such
as "Overcoming Christian Fear of Homosexuality."

Fortunately, the Catholic chaplaincy on campus is vibrant and
orthodox. The chaplain gave Chris solid if general spiritual advice-
regular prayer, reception of the sacraments, and a life of charity-
but he wasn't sure how to tailor it to a young Christian
experiencing same-sex attractions. So he suggested Chris work with a
therapist to address the psychological causes of his attractions.
And Chris tried. He went to his school's health center to see a
psychologist, but she was hostile. When he asked for a referral to
see a Catholic therapist, she all but called him crazy for refusing
to give in to his nature as homosexual. In the end, his university
health insurance wouldn't cover all the cost of an outside
therapist, and he obviously couldn't turn to his parents.

Sexual confusion can be found anywhere, but it is particularly
pronounced on college campuses, where to the general human confusion
is added approved promiscuity and an institutional rejection of
anything traditionally Christian or conservative. Is there any
student more alienated or marginalized on campus than one who
experiences same-sex attractions but who doesn't embrace them?
Silence is forced upon him, and his entire life experience is
discounted: He suffers same-sex attractions, he doesn't want to, and
he seeks to be made whole again. This doesn't seem so extreme a
narrative, and yet there are very few, if any, campus groups devoted
to supporting these students.

While listening to Chris, I grew angrier and angrier about our
troubled culture, the sexual chaos our parents' generation
bequeathed us, the lack of support the Church provides, and the
hostile environment the university maintains. Gradually, however, my
anger gave way to sadness. A sadness that Chris struggles almost
alone. A sadness that others like him have no one to turn to. A
sadness that universities deliberately reject chaste students with
same-sex attractions. In the end, though, I found myself feeling
grateful. Grateful for knowing Chris. Grateful for the chance to see
him carry a cross he did not choose. Offering up his daily
struggles, he strives for holiness, refuses surrender, and resists
temptations. He labors to remedy the unwanted causes and side
effects of attractions he never desired, aware all the while that a
cure isn't certain, that in this fallen world some disorders may
always be with us.

I am witnessing my friend's unique path to holiness: a remarkable
instance of grace working through a broken earthly vessel, making
all things new, and leading to fullness of life. I think how blessed
I am that I've been fortunate enough to witness it and find
inspiration for my life in his struggles. How sad, though, that the
rest of the world will never know.

Ryan T. Anderson is a junior fellow at FIRST THINGS.

#21176 From: Chaelcon@...
Date: Thu Apr 5, 2007 9:54 pm
Subject: Re: [ExGDBd] Out magazine's "OUT'S "....Anderson Cooper!!!!!!!
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All those announcers with the creepy "Harvy Firestone" type of voice are
clearly HomoSexxed. The radio announcer Shepherd Smith on Fox radio, for
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#21177 From: Thomas Morey <moreytom@...>
Date: Fri Apr 6, 2007 8:43 pm
Subject: More Challenges to Blankenhorn and Conservatives on Gay Marriage Debate
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Since When is Marriage a Path to Liberation?,
Out/Look, Fall 1989, at 8-12 (emphasis added).

Professor Michael Warner of Rutgers argues in his
book, The Trouble With Normal (1999), that SSM would
augment the normative status of marriage, reinforce
conservative trends toward reinstitutionalizing it,
and thus be “regressive” (all of which for him would
be bad things):

[T]he effect [of gay marriage] would be to reinforce
the material privileges and cultural normativity of
marriage. . . . Buying commodities sustains the
culture of commodities whether the buyers like it or
not. That is the power of a system. Just so, marrying
consolidates and sustains the normativity of marriage.
(P. 109) (emphasis added)

The conservative trend of shoring up this privilege
[in marriage] is mirrored, wittingly or unwittingly,
by the decision of U.S. advocates of gay marriage to
subordinate an entire bundle of entitlements to the
status of marriage. (P. 122) (emphasis added)

In respect to the family, real estate, and employment,
for example, the state has taken many small steps
toward recognizing households and relationships that
it once did not. . . . But the drive for gay marriage
[] threatens to reverse the trend [toward progressive
change], because it restores the constitutive role of
state certification. Gay couples don’t just want
households, benefits, and recognition. They want
marriage licenses. They want the stipulative language
of law rewritten and then enforced. (P. 125) (emphasis
added)

The definition of marriage, from the state’s special
role in it to the culture of romantic love – already
includes so many layers of history, and so many norms,
that gay marriage is not likely to alter it
fundamentally, and any changes that it does bring may
well be regressive. (P. 129) (emphasis added)

As for the hopes of pro-SSM marriage radicals (like
those Blankenhorn quotes) that gay marriage would
somehow radicalize marriage, Warner counters that “It
seems rather much to expect that gay people would
transform the institution of marriage by simply
marrying.”

Many other activists and intellectuals have written a
stream of editorials and position papers over the past
two decades expressing a similar “assimilation
anxiety” (William Eskridge’s phrase) about SSM. Here
are just a few:

“[Same-sex] Marriage is an attempt to limit the
multiplicity of relationships and the complexities of
coupling in the lesbian experience.” Ruthann Robson &
S.E.Valentine, Lov(hers): Lesbians as Intimate
Partners and Lesbian Legal Theory, 63 Temp. L. Q. 511,
540 (1990).

“[I]n seeking to replicate marriage clause for clause
and sacrament for sacrament, reformers may stall the
achievement of real sexual freedom and social equality
for everyone. . . . [M]arriage – forget the gay for a
moment – is intrinsically conservative....
Assimilating another ‘virtually normal’ constituency,
namely monogamous, long-term homosexual couples,
marriage pushes the queerer queers of all sexual
persuasions – drag queens, club crawlers,
polyamorists, even ordinary single mothers or teenage
lovers – further to the margins.” Judith Levine, Stop
the Wedding!, Village Voice, July 23-29, 2003.

“As an old-time gay liberationist, I find the frenzy
around marriage organizing exciting, but depressing. .
. . Securing the right to marry . . . will not change
the world. Heck, it won’t even change marriage.”
Michael Bronski, “Over the Rainbow,” Boston Phoenix,
August 1-7, 2003.

“But the simple fact remains that the fight for
marriage equality is at its essence not a progressive
fight, but rather a deeply conservative one that seeks
to maintain the social norm of the two-partnered
relationship – with or without children – as more
valuable than any other relational configuration.
While this may make a great deal of sense to
conservatives . . . it is clear that this paradigm
simply leaves the basic needs of many people out of
the equation. In the case of same-sex marriage the
fight for equality bears little resemblance to a
progressive fight for the betterment of all people.”
Michael Bronski, “Altar ego,” Boston Phoenix, July
16-22, 2004.

So, David Blankenhorn, I see your three marriage
radicals and raise you three!

Seriously, here's another "cluster" of beliefs to add
to the mix: gay marriage will enhance the primacy of
marriage, take the wind out of the sails of the
"families we choose" movement, cut off support for the
creation of marriage alternatives (like domestic
partnerships and civil unions), de-radicalize gay
culture, gut the movement for sexual liberation, and
reinforce recent conservative trends in family law. So
say what we might roughly call the anti-SSM marriage
radicals.

These anti-assimilationist writers (some of whom have
actually opposed SSM and some of whom, to be fair, are
just very uncomfortable about it) have not gotten as
much attention in the press as other writers because
they greatly complicate an already complex debate. And
indeed it’s fair to say they have kept themselves
fairly quiet for fear that their concerns would be
seen as undermining gay equality and thwarting gay
marriage, a cause that has broad support among gays.
They don’t want to be seen as opposing benefits for
gay people (which in fact they do not oppose).

But these anti-SSM marriage radicals comprise a
significant perspective among what I would call
“queer” activists, those who observe that the gay
movement is pursuing traditionalist causes in
traditionalist ways, who think it is endangering
sexual liberation, and who fear it is making gay
people just like straight people (who are, by
implication, all boring, uncultured philistines who
couple up, vote Republican, and live in the suburbs).
And they think these are bad things.

The point is not to argue that any of these writers
are correct that gay marriage will have the
significant reinstitutionalizing effect they think it
will have. I think both the anti-SSM marriage radicals
and the pro-SSM marriage radicals Blankenhorn cites
are far too taken with the transformative power of
adding an additional increment of 3% or so to existing
marriages in the country. So are anti-gay marriage
activists generally. I think all of them – including
Blankenhorn – are mistaken if they imagine that
straight couples take cues from gay couples in
structuring their lives and relationships, if they
think straight couples may stop having children, or if
they predict straight couples will be more likely to
have babies outside of marriage because gay couples
are now having and raising their children within it.

The point is that both support for and opposition to
SSM well up from a variety of complex ideas, fears,
hopes, emotions, world-views, motives, and underlying
theories. The debate will not be resolved by dueling
quotes from marriage radicals. SSM will have the
effects it has – good or bad – regardless of what
marriage radicals with one or another “cluster” of
beliefs hope it will have.

I should add that I have begun reading Blankenhorn’s
book, "The Future of Marriage." So far, I find it
lively, engaging, subtle, interesting, happily free of
jargon, and deeply wrong. It is probably the best
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#21178 From: Thomas Morey <moreytom@...>
Date: Fri Apr 6, 2007 8:43 pm
Subject: Resurrected Influence: Evangelicals in 2008
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Monday, March 26, 2007

Resurrected Influence: Evangelicals in 2008
By Harry R. Jackson, Jr.

The election of 2008 will be a defining moment in
American politics. In addition to the oval office,
this election will also determine who will control
Washington for the next eight years. The current
political atmosphere feels like an “agenda limbo.”
Republicans seem to be gasping for breath, while
Democrats are clumsily wielding their newfound power.
The average person has an overwhelming sense that all
the bantering in November and December about
bi-partisan cooperation was just well-timed, political
rhetoric. In less than 90 days, the gloves have come
off and the real power struggle has begun. So much for
new beginnings!

Only the 2008 election will remove the current
stalemate. Then both parties will be graded on their
performance. We could debate for months about the
nuances that will develop in both policies and
positions during the next 20 months. The war,
immigration, and the economy are sure to be major
concerns. But what group will rally and decide who
wins the dogfight?

In the 2000 election, evangelical Christians supported
George W. Bush but they lost the popular election. In
2004, gay marriage and pro-life concerns woke up
fearful evangelicals. They showed up and voted their
values. In 2006, faithful evangelicals voted their
values despite the lack of a clear, battle cry and
misgivings about the true morality of the GOP.
Unfortunately, evangelicals have fallen into the rut
of being defined by what they are against, instead of
what they advocate.

Recent statements made by Rev. Albert Mohler Jr.,
president of the Southern Baptist Theological
Seminary, are a good example of this misunderstanding.
Mohler, one of the country's pre-eminent evangelical
leaders, has incurred sharp attacks from the left and
right by suggesting, in a March 2007 column, that a
biological basis for homosexuality may be proven and
that prenatal treatment to reverse same-sex
orientation would be biblically justified.

Much has been written about the waning influence of
evangelicals in the political arena. Many sectors of
our electorate hope that true believers will just “go
back to church.” This is nothing more than wishful
thinking---a theology of social involvement has been
preached for over 30 years. In addition, there are
students who are preparing to enter the public
square---especially politics and law---at schools as
diverse as Liberty University to Harvard For these
reasons, the pulpit’s influence in politics will
continue.

The questions of the hour, however, are: What will
this army of voters do in 2008? Can evangelicals find
their voice in the next election? Or, will the
mid-term defeat of the Republicans give them social
laryngitis? I believe the day of blind allegiance by
evangelicals to any party will soon come to an end.
Leading evangelicals are painfully aware of the
failings of both parties. In 2008, conservative
evangelicals will begin to advocate culturally
transforming policy initiatives. They will also begin
to shun the image of being mean-spirited spoilers.
After all, the word “gospel” does mean “good news.”

The political makeover of the conservative,
evangelical movement is just as painful as a total
body makeover. During this transformation from
caterpillar to butterfly, a host of enemies are
attempting to prevent an evangelical resurrection. A
sophisticated, pincer strategy is being waged against
them by two groups--–liberal Christians and the
liberal press. Both groups fear that the sleeping
giant will awaken with an attitude.

Liberal Christians are trying to crack the unity of
evangelicals by sponsoring anti-war rallies and other
events. Although there is no question about the evil
of war, one has to question the political motives of
people that say on one hand “the church should not be
involved in politics” and on the other hand “march on
Washington.” National media ignored the May Day for
Marriage of 2004 which brought several hundred
thousand participants to D.C., yet they fawn over the
efforts of 3,000 or so dissidents.

Over the next 20 months, many valid positions will be
put forth by the Christian left. Their goal is to
create questions in the minds of the evangelical
faithful, while challenging the historic passion that
the “moral majority” has had for the issues of
protection of life and guarding the traditional
family. After all, these values are no longer “sexy”
to reporters or culturally seductive.

Liberal newspapers and periodicals have also gone so
far as to recently write profusely about a debate
about the environment that is occurring behind the
closed doors of the evangelical movement. The press
has salivated as leaked letters exposed the internal,
housekeeping efforts of a movement that has delivered
over 60 million voters to the polls in past elections.
These stories often do not report that there is a
genuine, though intense, dialogue going on within
evangelicals circles.

What the liberal press and liberal Christians are not
ready for is that evangelicals will embrace the
arguments that make sense without sacrificing their
core principles. A behind-the-scenes transformation
process is going on right before the nation’s eyes.

The evangelical movement will probably sit out the
early stages of the presidential race, allowing the
candidates to show their values, character, and true
positions. During the last 12 months of this process,
a re-engineered evangelical force will push a
deserving candidate into the winner’s circle. This
process may involve true believers holding their nose
while they vote – choosing the lesser of two evils.
Regardless of the process, the nation has not heard
the last of the evangelical church. Like their Savior,
they will rise again!

Harry R. Jackson Jr. is founder and Chairman of the
High Impact Leadership Coalition as well as author of
The Warriors Heart: Rules of Engagement for the
Spiritual War Zone.






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#21179 From: Thomas Morey <moreytom@...>
Date: Fri Apr 6, 2007 8:44 pm
Subject: How Wives Can Kill Their Marriage (Part Two) : + Wise & Excellent Retorts
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Saturday, March 31, 2007

How Wives Can Kill Their Marriage: Part Two
By Doug Giles

From the negative reaction I’ve received from cranky
women and toxic feminists, as well as the tremendous
positive responses/confessions from honest and
repentant ex-men emasculators, I think I’m on to
something with my “How Wives Can Kill Their Marriage”
series.

In regards to screeching female critics of my column,
you and I both know that if I went to town on husbands
(which I have many times . . . check my archives)
everything would be cool. I would be loved and hailed
by all the misandrists far and wide. Yes, the man
haters would be giddy. However, when I turn my guns on
the girls for their garish behavior towards their
husbands, all of a sudden I’m a sexist, or a homo, or
a . . . a . . . a something.

What’s the matter? Can’t take the heat? Listen, little
Miss Can’t Do Wrong, I’m here to tell you that,
believe it or not, you’re capable and oft times
culpable for creating for your mate a living hell that
is only surpassed by an eternal one.

For those women who want to become more efficient at
eroding your husband’s spirit, here are four more
additional acrimonious assets that’ll drive your hubby
to drink massive volumes of alcohol and prefer angry
leopard wrestling, listening to Yoko Ono yodel or
Chinese water torture to your presence.

Having covered 1) Nag Your Husband and 2) Disparage
Him in Public in my last column, I now offer you, the
man-eater, points three through six for your bitter
arsenal.

3. Keep Him On a Short Leash. Third on my list for how
you, the Satan woman, can kill your marriage is to
place your husband on a short leash. Better yet, a
choke chain. Your goal is three-fold: make your man to
feel, fear and heel to your wrath. You’ve got to
verbally shackle him to your commands. Make him
believe like he can’t sit, stand, play, think, speak
or spend money unless you, the queen condor, allow him
to.

By short leashing your husband with an exacting set of
laws, you will, in short order, morph in his head from
being his lover to being his mother. This masochistic
machination of insane restrictions will make your man
feel like a stupid son, controlled by you, his new
petulant mommy.

Forever gone will be the friend, fan, soul mate and
confidant stuff that initially drew the two of you
together. Once again, pure gold here, girls . . . pure
gold. Listen, using this tip might not produce
immediate devastating effects upon your man, but don’t
lose heart. It’ll work, and he’ll turn into a newt or
move into the corner of your attic or joyfully leave
you in the dust. Either way, this ditty will suck the
wind right out of your marriage sails.

4. Become a Drama Queen. Another thing that’ll make
your husband long to be stranded in the Mojave Desert
with no food or sun screen and only a rabid Rottweiler
to keep him company is, become a drama mama. Yes, your
goal, ghoulfriend, is to ratchet up every situation so
that you emotionally drain your man. Make the
atmosphere of your home tense. Make everything,
especially the small things, turn into a five alarm
fire.

The thing drama queens do so effectively is jack up
the stress levels in the relationship. This,
naturally, robs the relationship of the fertile
presence of peace. This redlining, high RPM spirit
will stretch his nerves more out of shape than the
elastic in Grosie O’Donnell’s XXXXL panties.

Go for it, ladies. Sweat the small stuff. Yell, freak,
faint. Sound the alarm, even if it’s only over a
broken dragon nail. If you concentrate you can make
anything WW3. Focus on wearing him out with your daily
theater. Do not under any circumstance become a calm
and well-modulated, peaceful and poised wife who can
field any real or imagined problem that gets shot her
way.

5. Hate his Friends. Separate your husband from his
compadres quickly. You mustn’t allow your husband to
hang out with anyone but you. Sever those relational
ties your companion has with those who have walked to
hell and back with him because now, yes now . . . it’s
all about you.

You especially want to steer him clear of friends who
feel the liberty and responsibility to shed light on
you, the whacked wife. In addition, get your guy away
from those buddies who have amazing and gracious wives
or girlfriends. “Why?” you ask. Well, a loving, caring
and an affirming couple will expose your broom riding
proclivities and put needed pressure on you to dial
freakin’ down. Remember and beware: trusted and wise
friends are able to bring perspective to marital
mayhem.

Therefore, slander his friends, vilify them and have
stuff planned every night of the week ‘til Jesus
returns. If for some odd reason he steals a rare,
uncontrolled moment where he and his friends can get a
beer, try this: Just before he walks out of the door,
start the washing machine, then cut the hose as the
tub is filling and flood house. Or just set the drapes
on fire. That’ll keep him home.

6. Hate his hobby. Keeping the husband from his
friends is not enough because your husband still has
an out in his hobby. Your goal is to joy steal
anywhere pleasure can be had, and it is here that
hobbies figure in greatly. Therefore, set your cross
hairs immediately upon that which flicks his
diversionary switch. You don’t want him to enjoy
anything that you don’t like. Your duty: remove any
recourse he has to find solace in something.

Additionally, hobbies create relationships built
around shared likes, and remember, your goal is to
keep him on a choke chain, with no compadres,
sequestered in the house to listen to you moo. Never,
under any circumstance, take an interest in his
interests, encourage him in his pursuits and just
simply let the boy play, as this understanding spirit
could actually make him take a shinnin’ to you and you
wouldn’t want that to happen.

I see you next week for the final four facts that’ll
help you fry your husband…

* Logon to ClashRadio.com and check out Doug’s
interview with Hugh Hewitt, author of the NYT best
seller, A Mormon in the White House?

"Whew! OK, members, you've made it this far. (By
golly, how did you manage to accomplish that?) Now,
here are some awaited and very refreshing responses
from wise commentators. They are like drinking a cup
of cold water after one's weary travel through the
desert of all this one-sided vituperation:"

Blessings,

Tom

1) Is it OK for Husbands to Do These Things?

Why is the anger directed at only women, instead of a
column that discusses bad behavior in a relationship.
Yes, it is a bad thing to be overly controlling, to
destroy your spouse's relationships, or to hate their
hobbies. I don't see why it is that different for men
to do it than women. And I don't necessarily think
women are that much more likely to do these
things--many men think that it is just fine to
disparage their wive's hobbies (it makes them more
'manly' to talk down about 'women's' activities).

But here's the thing: of all of the things that can
destroy a marriage, the number one things is to act in
a spirit of hostility. None of us are perfect; we all
behave badly out of insecurity. Our job as spouses is
not only to be a good spouse ourselves, but to
lovingly and understandingly try to help our spouse be
the best THEY can be.

I see all of these men coming in and saying 'that's my
ex-wife!' with a certain kind of glee. Giles has done
these men a huge disservice. Instead of helping
couples identify behaviors that hurt their
relationships, he instead fosters acrimony and
oppositional thinking. He helps men who might be in
difficult marriages demonize their spouses instead of
giving them positive ways to move forward.

The kind of angry, vengeful thinking that Giles
encourages with his invective is toxic to marriages.
He is utterly right about these negative behaviors
(which men and women engage in). His way of portraying
them is damaging.

My husband and I have gotten marriage counseling from
our pastor. I am so glad I have a better pastor than
Giles!!

(Commentator's Name Withhheld)

Words of Wisdom

"A worthy wife is her husband's joy and crown; the
other kind corrodes his strength and tears down
everything he does." Proverbs 12:4

"A wise woman builds her house, while a foolish woman
tears hers down by her own efforts." Proverbs 14:1

"It is better to live in the corner of an attic than
with a crabby woman in a lovely home." Proverbs 21:9

"Better to live in the desert than with a quarrelsome,
complaining woman." Proverbs 21:19

(From The Living Bible translation.)

No matter what the modern culture will have us
believe, God created women to help man--to help keep
him strong, confident, on track, etc. Thus, women have
a natural, powerful influence over men. Unfortunately,
our feminist culture has turned women into
men-destroyers instead of men-supporters.

It's gone way too far. For example, my husband is
always complaining about the plethora of commercials
where the man is depicted as being stupid--usually in
comparison to the woman. Now, I'm all for women being
allowed to have careers and enjoy other effects the
feminist movement gave us. But the feminists took
everything way too far. It wasn't enough to be
considered more equal to men--they had to drive them
into the ground. And still are.

Doug, and men suffering under the hands of their
women, we feel your pain. Please know that not every
woman agrees with torturing their man. I proudly say
that I am FOR my man, not against him.

(Commentator's Name Withheld)








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#21180 From: "Laura" <exgaydates@...>
Date: Fri Apr 6, 2007 8:46 pm
Subject: NFL's Simmons Speaks of Former Gay Lifestyle
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CBN.com – Roy Simmons is one of only three NFL players to publicly
discuss being homosexual. All three chose to speak of their sexual
orientation after retirement from the league. But there is another
side to Roy's story that hasn't been told, at least not until now.

In 1992, on The Phil Donahue Show, Roy Simmons had a major
announcement.

"He comes here today" Donahue told the television audience, "to tell
you that he is now and always has been gay."

"I don't think we knew the repercussions that were going to come
after that," Simmons explains. "My friends were in shock – 'Roy, you
must have gone out and just gotten toasted and you got a major
hangover.' "

This was not just any man revealing sexual secrets on national
television. Roy had been the epitome of a macho, 290-pound offensive
lineman in the NFL whose career ended much too early. He had a
bright future from the start, signing a commitment to play with
Georgia Tech. He boasted the ideal physique for football – big and
strong, lots of speed. He was drafted by the New York Giants in
1979. But off the field, he had a secret: he was having sex with
men. It was a well-kept secret, but ultimately the double life
affected his on-field performance. The Giants got rid of Simmons.

"I was in shock," Simmons admits. "It really hurt me that I was
released. It really, really did."

Roy caught a break. The Washington Redskins took a chance on him,
and that same year the Skins made it to the Super Bowl… but lost to
the Raiders by nearly 30 points. That didn't matter much to Roy. He
had other things to worry about. Among the special guests Roy had
brought with him to the Super Bowl were multiple lovers, two females
and one male.

By this point, Roy was drinking heavily and snorting cocaine. But he
didn't last long with the Redskins; they didn't want him either.
Most of Roy's wounds were self-inflicted, except for one. As a
little boy, Roy did odd jobs around town. A woman asked him to clean
her house. While she was out, her husband stayed behind at home and
sought out Roy's company.

"He had some cocktails; he had been drinking," Simmons
recalls. "Eventually, he called me into the room, and he turned me
around and basically he did what he wanted to."

That was the first big secret in Roy's life, and it had a profound
impact. After the Redskins dumped him, Roy's NFL career was over. He
had a quick stint in the second-tier USFL, but he became a broke,
washed-up athlete with a drug addiction and a secret sex life. In
1990, he headed out West.

"I had heard about San Francisco, the gay life. It's the gay
capitol. It was kind of crazy, but it was like, well, since you're
in it, go all the way," Simmons reasoned.

That he did. He drank and did drugs. Some nights he even slept on
the street. Worst of all, Roy actually prostituted himself to fund
his drug habit.

"[That was] something I thought I'd never do," Simmons says. "I
always said there were things I'd never do, and I kind of caught
myself with that. I shoplifted and I prostituted, basically. I think
that through the years there was a lot of confusion brought about in
my life due to the rape. It led me in areas where I cared not to go,
but I went there."

Roy believed God wouldn't accept him as he was.

"When you're out in sin," Simmons explains, "you really feel like
you cut yourself off. You're ashamed that 'oh, look what I'm doing.
I can't go to Him like this. I can't go to God in prayer.' "

He surfaced briefly, making his appearance on Donahue. A few years
later, a doctor gave Roy a grim diagnosis.

"He called me in, and he gave me the results," he remembers. "My
knees buckled. He told me that my tests came back positive. I guess
the initial thought was I'm going to die. I've known people, some of
them a month, and then they're gone."

Upon learning that he was HIV positive, Roy felt hopeless, like he
was just waiting around to die. That's when he made a desperate call
to best friend Jimmy Hester and decided to move to Martha's
Vineyard. There a remarkable physical and spiritual cleansing took
place.

Jimmy Hester is also HIV positive. He went to the Martha's Vineyard
Holistic Retreat because of his HIV. He has made great strides with
his physical health, but he also found something he never expected –
a relationship with Jesus Christ. That relationship started soon
after a Bible study invitation by his doctor, Roni Deluz.

Now Roy is also meeting with Dr. Deluz, and he's feeling great. He
was recently baptized.

Roy's pastor, Marcia Buckley, who quickly notes Roy's hunger for
God, says, "One thing that he appreciates is the fact that he's
alive in the Lord and that God has given him a chance to live."

Roy has learned much from his pastor about his former lifestyle.

"We spoke on and learned about homosexuality and the connotations
and everything that go along with it. It's really against God's
will," Roy states.

Roy devotes himself to the Lord and to purity. He has not been
sexually active in more than three years.

"All that lying and cheating and all that backbiting and all that
deceitfulness – I don't practice that," he says bluntly.

Roy is eager to study the Word of God and to grow closer to the Lord.

"Thank God for Jesus, for Him dying for my sins. On a daily basis, I
can go to Him in prayer and just put it out there and be honest
about it," says Simmons. "Coming into the fold, coming into the
knowledge of God, just how wonderful and great He is and powerful,
and feeling the love of Jesus – it's a beautiful feeling."

http://www.cbn.com/700club/features/sports_roy_simmons.aspx

#21181 From: "ichthus731" <ichthus@...>
Date: Fri Apr 6, 2007 8:50 pm
Subject: Re: Struggling Alone
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Great article!


--- In exgaydiscussionboard@yahoogroups.com, "Laura" <exgaydates@...>
wrote:
>
> Struggling Alone
>
> by Ryan T. Anderson
>
> Copyright (c) 2007 First Things (February 2007).
>
> He came out to me in an email. I've known him for years, long
enough
> that I can't remember when we first met, and we were recently
> emailing back and forth about our lives, our futures-the kind of
> stuff separated friends discuss. Along the way he mentioned, in an
> aside, that he had some - lingering troubles he had to work his way
> through. My reply asked for an explanation-and that's when he told
> me.
>
> Over the past three years, "Chris" (let's call him) has experienced
> a pronounced attraction to other males-for one old friend from high
> school in particular. A crush, maybe, or an infatuation. Whatever
it
> was, he knew it wasn't healthy. And though he had never acted on
the
> attraction, he explained, it led to fantasies and lusts he didn't
> want. So he made a resolution never to embrace them as essential to
> his identity or accept them as permanent or untreatable-a
resolution
> he has kept practically alone, without the support of community,
> family, or friends. Over the course of many phone calls and emails,
> he shared with me his reflections on what he thought had created
his
> problem of same-sex attractions. He described an "exceedingly
close,
> best-friendly relationship" to his mother, often serving the role
of
> her sole confidant, and a subsequent alienation from his father.
> Relationships with his friends, he thought, also contributed, as he
> suffered through "deeply hurtful rejection" by male peers, along
> with "oscillations between reverence for and fear of typically
> masculine" classmates. Once puberty hit, this took on sexual
> connotations, as Chris began experiencing "eroticized desire" for
> traits he found in other males that he himself lacked.
>
> All this resulted in his dividing males into those he
> found "superior and feared (because of their strongly masculine
> features)," and those he found "inferior and disdained (because of
> their lack thereof)." But it affected his overall personality, too.
> He developed, he wrote, a "passive-aggressive, detachedly defensive
> and otherwise manipulative behavior toward males" and a "woeful
> inability" to assert himself as others do. The overarching
weakness,
> he thought, was "a deep need to fulfill the emasculating and benign-
> to-a-fault role of the good little boy who pleases Mom by following
> all rules (the civil law, school rules, conventional morality,
> politeness, etc.) [while] remaining unthreatening and unphysical."
>
> What he described seemed an accurate summary of the person I have
> known for years. So when he pointed to the likely causes and said
he
> was seeking help in addressing them, I was supportive. "I would be
> untrue to myself if I simply accepted this condition right now," he
> wrote. "I would be denying what I've come to believe-what I believe
> I know-to be the causes and potential cures of this condition in my
> case." Some people say that change isn't possible, but he thinks
> that with God all things are, and he at least wants to try to do
his
> part.
>
> Chris' situation is sad, but it seems to be moving somewhere. He
> told me how he had cried daily for the first two years of his same-
> sex attractions, knowing that he was becoming someone he didn't
want
> to be. But during the third year he found a good therapist and
began
> making progress. He set out to find "healthy male affirmation
> through deep, non-erotic same-sex friendships"-along with
> a "purification of memory regarding the hurts of the past" and a
> more masculine view of himself. Without any reason to exaggerate
his
> progress, he assured me he is "100 times happier and healthier than
> before-though not yet whole." Even friends and relatives who do not
> know about his struggles have remarked on his increased serenity
and
> joy.
>
> Other than his confessor and therapist, I'm the only person who
> knows. His parents would be devastated-his mother wondering whether
> she had caused it, his father fearing he had failed his son. His
> roommates and friends wouldn't know how to take it. Others on
campus
> would encourage him to embrace his true self: They'd label him a
> homosexual and call him gay. But he's not-and neither does he want
> to be: Sexual attraction, he thinks, doesn't define a person.
> Indeed, he particularly fears coming out about his attractions
while
> struggling against them, which would get him labeled a repressed
> homosexual, the gay-basher who himself is queer, the gay kid who
> thinks it's just some disorder. All he wants is to live chastely
and
> try to make progress in addressing the causes of his same-sex
> attractions. But at the modern American university, this is
> anathema. For all their celebrations of diversity and pledges of
> tolerance, this choice is not to be - celebrated or even tolerated.
>
> Like many schools, Chris' university has an LGBTQA center (an
> official office supporting "lesbian, gay, bisexual, transgendered,
> queer, and allied" students). Had he been seeking advice on how to
> embrace his same-sex attractions, perform sexually as a gay man, or
> develop a romantic homosexual relationship, he would have been
> welcomed. Wanting instead help to live chastely, he found nothing.
> Worse than nothing, he found rejection. Such centers routinely
> sponsor public lectures attacking Christian responses to same-sex
> attractions, calls to chastity, and attempts to seek therapy.
>
> You might think Chris could find help at the university's religious-
> life center. But with pink pride triangles on every interior door,
> that office, too, has embraced the gay-pride movement. The college
> hosts an annual Pride Sunday Liturgy in lieu of regular chapel
> worship-for pride, apparently, is the proper liturgical response to
> homosexuality-and sponsors public lectures with titles such
> as "Overcoming Christian Fear of Homosexuality."
>
> Fortunately, the Catholic chaplaincy on campus is vibrant and
> orthodox. The chaplain gave Chris solid if general spiritual advice-
> regular prayer, reception of the sacraments, and a life of charity-
> but he wasn't sure how to tailor it to a young Christian
> experiencing same-sex attractions. So he suggested Chris work with
a
> therapist to address the psychological causes of his attractions.
> And Chris tried. He went to his school's health center to see a
> psychologist, but she was hostile. When he asked for a referral to
> see a Catholic therapist, she all but called him crazy for refusing
> to give in to his nature as homosexual. In the end, his university
> health insurance wouldn't cover all the cost of an outside
> therapist, and he obviously couldn't turn to his parents.
>
> Sexual confusion can be found anywhere, but it is particularly
> pronounced on college campuses, where to the general human
confusion
> is added approved promiscuity and an institutional rejection of
> anything traditionally Christian or conservative. Is there any
> student more alienated or marginalized on campus than one who
> experiences same-sex attractions but who doesn't embrace them?
> Silence is forced upon him, and his entire life experience is
> discounted: He suffers same-sex attractions, he doesn't want to,
and
> he seeks to be made whole again. This doesn't seem so extreme a
> narrative, and yet there are very few, if any, campus groups
devoted
> to supporting these students.
>
> While listening to Chris, I grew angrier and angrier about our
> troubled culture, the sexual chaos our parents' generation
> bequeathed us, the lack of support the Church provides, and the
> hostile environment the university maintains. Gradually, however,
my
> anger gave way to sadness. A sadness that Chris struggles almost
> alone. A sadness that others like him have no one to turn to. A
> sadness that universities deliberately reject chaste students with
> same-sex attractions. In the end, though, I found myself feeling
> grateful. Grateful for knowing Chris. Grateful for the chance to
see
> him carry a cross he did not choose. Offering up his daily
> struggles, he strives for holiness, refuses surrender, and resists
> temptations. He labors to remedy the unwanted causes and side
> effects of attractions he never desired, aware all the while that a
> cure isn't certain, that in this fallen world some disorders may
> always be with us.
>
> I am witnessing my friend's unique path to holiness: a remarkable
> instance of grace working through a broken earthly vessel, making
> all things new, and leading to fullness of life. I think how
blessed
> I am that I've been fortunate enough to witness it and find
> inspiration for my life in his struggles. How sad, though, that the
> rest of the world will never know.
>
> Ryan T. Anderson is a junior fellow at FIRST THINGS.
>

#21182 From: nfttm <nfttm@...>
Date: Fri Apr 6, 2007 10:04 pm
Subject: Re: [ExGDBd] NFL's Simmons Speaks of Former Gay Lifestyle
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WOW - awesome story - thank you!

--- Laura <exgaydates@...> wrote:

> CBN.com – Roy Simmons is one of only three NFL
> players to publicly
> discuss being homosexual. All three chose to speak
> of their sexual
> orientation after retirement from the league. But
> there is another
> side to Roy's story that hasn't been told, at least
> not until now.
>
> In 1992, on The Phil Donahue Show, Roy Simmons had a
> major
> announcement.
>
> "He comes here today" Donahue told the television
> audience, "to tell
> you that he is now and always has been gay."
>
> "I don't think we knew the repercussions that were
> going to come
> after that," Simmons explains. "My friends were in
> shock – 'Roy, you
> must have gone out and just gotten toasted and you
> got a major
> hangover.' "
>
> This was not just any man revealing sexual secrets
> on national
> television. Roy had been the epitome of a macho,
> 290-pound offensive
> lineman in the NFL whose career ended much too
> early. He had a
> bright future from the start, signing a commitment
> to play with
> Georgia Tech. He boasted the ideal physique for
> football – big and
> strong, lots of speed. He was drafted by the New
> York Giants in
> 1979. But off the field, he had a secret: he was
> having sex with
> men. It was a well-kept secret, but ultimately the
> double life
> affected his on-field performance. The Giants got
> rid of Simmons.
>
> "I was in shock," Simmons admits. "It really hurt me
> that I was
> released. It really, really did."
>
> Roy caught a break. The Washington Redskins took a
> chance on him,
> and that same year the Skins made it to the Super
> Bowl… but lost to
> the Raiders by nearly 30 points. That didn't matter
> much to Roy. He
> had other things to worry about. Among the special
> guests Roy had
> brought with him to the Super Bowl were multiple
> lovers, two females
> and one male.
>
> By this point, Roy was drinking heavily and snorting
> cocaine. But he
> didn't last long with the Redskins; they didn't want
> him either.
> Most of Roy's wounds were self-inflicted, except for
> one. As a
> little boy, Roy did odd jobs around town. A woman
> asked him to clean
> her house. While she was out, her husband stayed
> behind at home and
> sought out Roy's company.
>
> "He had some cocktails; he had been drinking,"
> Simmons
> recalls. "Eventually, he called me into the room,
> and he turned me
> around and basically he did what he wanted to."
>
> That was the first big secret in Roy's life, and it
> had a profound
> impact. After the Redskins dumped him, Roy's NFL
> career was over. He
> had a quick stint in the second-tier USFL, but he
> became a broke,
> washed-up athlete with a drug addiction and a secret
> sex life. In
> 1990, he headed out West.
>
> "I had heard about San Francisco, the gay life. It's
> the gay
> capitol. It was kind of crazy, but it was like,
> well, since you're
> in it, go all the way," Simmons reasoned.
>
> That he did. He drank and did drugs. Some nights he
> even slept on
> the street. Worst of all, Roy actually prostituted
> himself to fund
> his drug habit.
>
> "[That was] something I thought I'd never do,"
> Simmons says. "I
> always said there were things I'd never do, and I
> kind of caught
> myself with that. I shoplifted and I prostituted,
> basically. I think
> that through the years there was a lot of confusion
> brought about in
> my life due to the rape. It led me in areas where I
> cared not to go,
> but I went there."
>
> Roy believed God wouldn't accept him as he was.
>
> "When you're out in sin," Simmons explains, "you
> really feel like
> you cut yourself off. You're ashamed that 'oh, look
> what I'm doing.
> I can't go to Him like this. I can't go to God in
> prayer.' "
>
> He surfaced briefly, making his appearance on
> Donahue. A few years
> later, a doctor gave Roy a grim diagnosis.
>
> "He called me in, and he gave me the results," he
> remembers. "My
> knees buckled. He told me that my tests came back
> positive. I guess
> the initial thought was I'm going to die. I've known
> people, some of
> them a month, and then they're gone."
>
> Upon learning that he was HIV positive, Roy felt
> hopeless, like he
> was just waiting around to die. That's when he made
> a desperate call
> to best friend Jimmy Hester and decided to move to
> Martha's
> Vineyard. There a remarkable physical and spiritual
> cleansing took
> place.
>
> Jimmy Hester is also HIV positive. He went to the
> Martha's Vineyard
> Holistic Retreat because of his HIV. He has made
> great strides with
> his physical health, but he also found something he
> never expected –
> a relationship with Jesus Christ. That relationship
> started soon
> after a Bible study invitation by his doctor, Roni
> Deluz.
>
> Now Roy is also meeting with Dr. Deluz, and he's
> feeling great. He
> was recently baptized.
>
> Roy's pastor, Marcia Buckley, who quickly notes
> Roy's hunger for
> God, says, "One thing that he appreciates is the
> fact that he's
> alive in the Lord and that God has given him a
> chance to live."
>
> Roy has learned much from his pastor about his
> former lifestyle.
>
> "We spoke on and learned about homosexuality and the
> connotations
> and everything that go along with it. It's really
> against God's
> will," Roy states.
>
> Roy devotes himself to the Lord and to purity. He
> has not been
> sexually active in more than three years.
>
> "All that lying and cheating and all that backbiting
> and all that
> deceitfulness – I don't practice that," he says
> bluntly.
>
> Roy is eager to study the Word of God and to grow
> closer to the Lord.
>
> "Thank God for Jesus, for Him dying for my sins. On
> a daily basis, I
> can go to Him in prayer and just put it out there
> and be honest
> about it," says Simmons. "Coming into the fold,
> coming into the
> knowledge of God, just how wonderful and great He is
> and powerful,
> and feeling the love of Jesus – it's a beautiful
> feeling."
>
>
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