Just a reminder of the genealogical software discussion forum on YahooGroups

In is a good place for

* discussing programs you are using, and how to get the best out of them
* discussing programs you would like to see
* discussing improvements you would like to see in existing programs
* collaborating in developing programs that are useful for genealogists
* reviewing genealogy software
* announcing and commenting on new versions and programs
* anything else to do with computer programs used for genealogy

When discussing general software, such as word processors, spreadsheets,
databases etc., it is best to stick to the genealogical uses of those programs
-- but sharing ideas on how they can be used for genealogy is good.

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On 10 Jun 2008 at 21:48, Johann Hanekom wrote:

> NONE of the genealogy programs natively generate web sites that are really
> useful or attractive enough to satisfy me.
>
> That is why I generate a GEDCOM file and upload that into my website which is
> based on PHPGedview (Check www.hanekom.org.uk). There are a number of GEDCOM
> to HTML utilities that will generate useful and attractive sites which you can
> upload to your own website, wherever you choose to host it. There are even
> sites that will host it for free, but they are somewhat limited in the sixe of
> your website or the amount of traffic it will handle.
>
> The downside of PHPGedview is that it requires your website to have at least
> one MySQL database available for its use, which makes publishing the site a
> bit more expensive.
>
> Unless other listers are also interested in this topic, you are welcome to
> contact me off-line for further discussion.

This is the siort of thing that is perhaps better discussed on the genealogy
software forum, and I shall copy this there.

Here is information about the Geenalogy Software forum in case anyone would
like to join in:

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/gensoft/

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Most good genealogy programs do have an option to print HTML code for web
pages, but as you say it is fairly limited, and not easy to update.

Free web hosts out there will generally only let you have static pages, and
if you want to run things like PHPGedView you have to pay, thoguh there are
also sites like My Heritage that do let you update things and allow others to
do so, thoguh that seems to be in a proprietary format. I believe it is
possible to upload and download Gedcoms there.

I'm not all that interested in updating my genealogy on the web. I did,
several years ago, upload some family tree pages to my Geocities pages, but
Geocities was taken over by Yahoo, and it became very unreliable. At one time
it was down for two months, or at least my pages were, so I moved them to
another site, and updated it there, but did not move the family tree, which
by then was already out of date.

I see the main purpose in posting family tree information on the Web as not
being to have a complete family tree on the Web, but rather letting others
know what you have so that they can get in touch and you can share
information. If you put everything on the web, I've found that other people
just take it, and you don't even know who they are, and they often don't give
any of their information in return. My attitude is "I'll give you everything
I have if you give me everything you have".

I have, however, started a family wiki on a free publicly hosted service, but
so far most visitors have not bothered to make themselves known or
contributed anything, even though it is quite easy to contribute to a wiki.

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Just a reminder of the genealogical software discussion forum on YahooGroups

In is a good place for

* discussing programs you are using, and how to get the best out of them
* discussing programs you would like to see
* discussing improvements you would like to see in existing programs
* collaborating in developing programs that are useful for genealogists
* reviewing genealogy software
* announcing and commenting on new versions and programs
* anything else to do with computer programs used for genealogy

When discussing general software, such as word processors, spreadsheets,
databases etc., it is best to stick to the genealogical uses of those programs
-- but sharing ideas on how they can be used for genealogy is good.

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I once used a program, I think it was Brother's Keeper, that could produce a
report showing the links between a single ancestor and a single descendant.

This was produced as a text file that could be imported into an e-mail or or
news message.

Legacy does a similar report, but it has graphics and fancy formatting, and
can only be exported as a graphics file.

Is there any way of producing a text report in Legacy, other than printing it
out and then retyping it all?

Are there any other programs that can produce such reports?

Or will I have to reinstall Brothers Keeper 5 and GEDCOM my data across?

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One solution is to install the Generic-Text only printer driver and
select FILE: as the port.

After you "print" the report to this printer, you will be promted for
the file location/name. When done, you can edit the file, or copy and
paste the text to something else. Adjusting your report parameters will
reduce the amount of editing.

Best Regards
Larry Horsley

--- In gensoft@yahoogroups.com, "Steve Hayes" <hayesstw@...> wrote:

<--SNIP-->

Is there any way of producing a text report in Legacy, other than
printing it out and then retyping it all?

<--SNIP-->

Why can't you save it to pdf and sent the pdf attachment?  Of course, you'd
have to have the Deluxe edition to do that.

Sherry

-----Original Message-----
From: gensoft@yahoogroups.com [mailto:gensoft@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
Steve Hayes
Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2008 12:55 AM
To: gensoft@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [gensoft] Lineage link reports

I once used a program, I think it was Brother's Keeper, that could produce a

report showing the links between a single ancestor and a single descendant.

This was produced as a text file that could be imported into an e-mail or or

news message.

Legacy does a similar report, but it has graphics and fancy formatting, and
can only be exported as a graphics file.

Is there any way of producing a text report in Legacy, other than printing
it
out and then retyping it all?

Are there any other programs that can produce such reports?

Or will I have to reinstall Brothers Keeper 5 and GEDCOM my data across?

--
Keep well,

Steve Hayes

On 3 Jul 2008 at 9:04, Sherry wrote:

> Why can't you save it to pdf and sent the pdf attachment?  Of course, you'd
> have to have the Deluxe edition to do that.

Someone on the newsgroup gave me the answer -- use the relationship
calculator (which doesn't appear in the reports menu, but under Tools, I
think). It has the option of text output, which can then be edited in a word
processor.


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The Master Genealogist will produce a text file you can copy and paste into an
e-mail or send as an attachment- see sample below.
 
 

                            Relationship Chart

                     James Carmody (1853 - 1932)
                        b. 8 May 1853
                        at Paris, Bourbon County, KY,
                        d. 28 Jul 1932
                        at Chicago, Cook County, IL,
                        m. 1888
                        at
                     +Mary Therese Dwyer (17140)
                        b. May 1864
                        at Tipperary, Ireland
                        d. 1939
                        at
 
                      Ellen G. Carmody (17147)
                        b. 16 Nov 1889
                        at Emmetsburg, Palo Alto
                        d. 17 Aug 1966
                        at Chicago, Cook County, IL,
                        m. 24 May 1925
                        at Crown Point, IN, USA
                      +Thomas James Miller (17158)
                        b.
                        at
                        d.
                        at
 
                      James Miller (17159)
                        b. 1925
                        at IL, USA
                        d.
                        at
                        m.
                        at
 
     James Miller (17159) is the grandson of James Carmody (1853 - 1932



--- On Thu, 7/3/08, Steve Hayes <hayesstw@...> wrote:

From: Steve Hayes <hayesstw@...>
Subject: [gensoft] Lineage link reports
To: gensoft@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thursday, July 3, 2008, 2:54 AM






I once used a program, I think it was Brother's Keeper, that could produce a
report showing the links between a single ancestor and a single descendant.

This was produced as a text file that could be imported into an e-mail or or
news message.

Legacy does a similar report, but it has graphics and fancy formatting, and
can only be exported as a graphics file.

Is there any way of producing a text report in Legacy, other than printing it
out and then retyping it all?

Are there any other programs that can produce such reports?

Or will I have to reinstall Brothers Keeper 5 and GEDCOM my data across?

--
Keep well,

Steve Hayes
Web: http://hayesfam. bravehost. com/famhist1. htm
http://hayesgreene. wordpress. com
E-mail: shayes@dunelm. org.uk

Just a reminder of the genealogical software discussion forum on YahooGroups

In is a good place for

* discussing programs you are using, and how to get the best out of them
* discussing programs you would like to see
* discussing improvements you would like to see in existing programs
* collaborating in developing programs that are useful for genealogists
* reviewing genealogy software
* announcing and commenting on new versions and programs
* anything else to do with computer programs used for genealogy

When discussing general software, such as word processors, spreadsheets,
databases etc., it is best to stick to the genealogical uses of those programs
-- but sharing ideas on how they can be used for genealogy is good.

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Just a reminder of the genealogical software discussion forum on YahooGroups

In is a good place for

* discussing programs you are using, and how to get the best out of them
* discussing programs you would like to see
* discussing improvements you would like to see in existing programs
* collaborating in developing programs that are useful for genealogists
* reviewing genealogy software
* announcing and commenting on new versions and programs
* anything else to do with computer programs used for genealogy

When discussing general software, such as word processors, spreadsheets,
databases etc., it is best to stick to the genealogical uses of those programs
-- but sharing ideas on how they can be used for genealogy is good.

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Just a reminder of the genealogical software discussion forum on YahooGroups

In is a good place for

* discussing programs you are using, and how to get the best out of them
* discussing programs you would like to see
* discussing improvements you would like to see in existing programs
* collaborating in developing programs that are useful for genealogists
* reviewing genealogy software
* announcing and commenting on new versions and programs
* anything else to do with computer programs used for genealogy

When discussing general software, such as word processors, spreadsheets,
databases etc., it is best to stick to the genealogical uses of those programs
-- but sharing ideas on how they can be used for genealogy is good.

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No, this list hasn't been invaded by spammers!

AskSam is a text database program that I've been using for about 17 years
now, and find it remarkably userful for making genealogy research notes,
transcripts and notes from source documents etc.

Is anyone else using it for their genealogy research?

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Just a reminder of the genealogical software discussion forum on YahooGroups

In is a good place for

* discussing programs you are using, and how to get the best out of them
* discussing programs you would like to see
* discussing improvements you would like to see in existing programs
* collaborating in developing programs that are useful for genealogists
* reviewing genealogy software
* announcing and commenting on new versions and programs
* anything else to do with computer programs used for genealogy

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Just a reminder of the genealogical software discussion forum on YahooGroups

In is a good place for

* discussing programs you are using, and how to get the best out of them
* discussing programs you would like to see
* discussing improvements you would like to see in existing programs
* collaborating in developing programs that are useful for genealogists
* reviewing genealogy software
* announcing and commenting on new versions and programs
* anything else to do with computer programs used for genealogy

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I received this notification recentlu:

=== quote ===

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I've been using askSam for genealogical notetaking for more than 15 years
now, and wonder if anyone else is using it, and would like to discuss its
genealogical uses.


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Just a reminder of the genealogical software discussion forum on YahooGroups

In is a good place for

* discussing programs you are using, and how to get the best out of them
* discussing programs you would like to see
* discussing improvements you would like to see in existing programs
* collaborating in developing programs that are useful for genealogists
* reviewing genealogy software
* announcing and commenting on new versions and programs
* anything else to do with computer programs used for genealogy

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* discussing programs you are using, and how to get the best out of them
* discussing programs you would like to see
* discussing improvements you would like to see in existing programs
* collaborating in developing programs that are useful for genealogists
* reviewing genealogy software
* announcing and commenting on new versions and programs
* anything else to do with computer programs used for genealogy

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Just a reminder of the genealogical software discussion forum on YahooGroups

In is a good place for

* discussing programs you are using, and how to get the best out of them
* discussing programs you would like to see
* discussing improvements you would like to see in existing programs
* collaborating in developing programs that are useful for genealogists
* reviewing genealogy software
* announcing and commenting on new versions and programs
* anything else to do with computer programs used for genealogy

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In is a good place for

* discussing programs you are using, and how to get the best out of them
* discussing programs you would like to see
* discussing improvements you would like to see in existing programs
* collaborating in developing programs that are useful for genealogists
* reviewing genealogy software
* announcing and commenting on new versions and programs
* anything else to do with computer programs used for genealogy

When discussing general software, such as word processors, spreadsheets,
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* discussing programs you are using, and how to get the best out of them
* discussing programs you would like to see
* discussing improvements you would like to see in existing programs
* collaborating in developing programs that are useful for genealogists
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* announcing and commenting on new versions and programs
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Enter your vote today!  A new poll has been created for the
gensoft group:

What general database software to you use for your genealogy-related research or
data, notes etc., or for developing applications.

   o MS Access
   o Open Office Base
   o MySql
   o AskSam
   o Paradox
   o Other


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Thanks!

On Saturday 16. May 2009, gensoft@yahoogroups.com wrote:

>What general database software to you use for your genealogy-related
> research or data, notes etc., or for developing applications.
>
>  o MS Access
>  o Open Office Base
>  o MySql
>  o AskSam
>  o Paradox
>  o Other

Where is PostgreSQL?
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On 16 May 2009 at 9:44, Leif B. Kristensen wrote:

> On Saturday 16. May 2009, gensoft@yahoogroups.com wrote:
>
> >What general database software to you use for your genealogy-related
> > research or data, notes etc., or for developing applications.
> >
> >  o MS Access
> >  o Open Office Base
> >  o MySql
> >  o AskSam
> >  o Paradox
> >  o Other
>
> Where is PostgreSQL?

I never heard of it -- but perhaps you could write soemthing about it and
tell us what you do with it!


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On Saturday 16. May 2009, Steve Hayes wrote:
>On 16 May 2009 at 9:44, Leif B. Kristensen wrote:
>> On Saturday 16. May 2009, gensoft@yahoogroups.com wrote:
>> >What general database software to you use for your
>> > genealogy-related research or data, notes etc., or for developing
>> > applications.
>> >
>> >  o MS Access
>> >  o Open Office Base
>> >  o MySql
>> >  o AskSam
>> >  o Paradox
>> >  o Other
>>
>> Where is PostgreSQL?
>
>I never heard of it -- but perhaps you could write soemthing about it
> and tell us what you do with it!

PostgreSQL (http://www.postgresql.org) is a very advanced open source
RDBMS, in the same league as commercial alternatives like Oracle, DB/2
or MSSQL. It's BSD licensed, which means that you can do absolutely
whatever you want with it, no strings attached. And it's totally rock
solid.

I've written three articles about the migration from The Master
Genealogist to my own home-stitched application:

http://solumslekt.org/forays/tmg.php
http://solumslekt.org/forays/blue.php
http://solumslekt.org/forays/exodus.php

There's also an «executive overview» at this page:

http://solumslekt.org/note_en.php

In my blog http://solumslekt.org/blog/ I try to describe the development
in some detail.
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On 16 May 2009 at 13:01, Leif B. Kristensen wrote:

> On Saturday 16. May 2009, Steve Hayes wrote:
> >On 16 May 2009 at 9:44, Leif B. Kristensen wrote:

> >> Where is PostgreSQL?
> >
> >I never heard of it -- but perhaps you could write soemthing about it
> > and tell us what you do with it!
>
> PostgreSQL (http://www.postgresql.org) is a very advanced open source
> RDBMS, in the same league as commercial alternatives like Oracle, DB/2
> or MSSQL. It's BSD licensed, which means that you can do absolutely
> whatever you want with it, no strings attached. And it's totally rock
> solid.
>
> I've written three articles about the migration from The Master
> Genealogist to my own home-stitched application:
>
> http://solumslekt.org/forays/tmg.php
> http://solumslekt.org/forays/blue.php
> http://solumslekt.org/forays/exodus.php
>
> There's also an «executive overview» at this page:
>
> http://solumslekt.org/note_en.php
>
> In my blog http://solumslekt.org/blog/ I try to describe the development in
> some detail. -- Leif Biberg Kristensen | Registered Linux User #338009 Me And
> My Database: http://solumslekt.org/blog/

Thanks very much -- it sounds very interesting, and your articles are very
good -- thanks for that.

When I've studied them in more detail I might come back to you with a few
questions.


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Just a reminder of the genealogical software discussion forum on YahooGroups

In is a good place for

* discussing programs you are using, and how to get the best out of them
* discussing programs you would like to see
* discussing improvements you would like to see in existing programs
* collaborating in developing programs that are useful for genealogists
* reviewing genealogy software
* announcing and commenting on new versions and programs
* anything else to do with computer programs used for genealogy

When discussing general software, such as word processors, spreadsheets,
databases etc., it is best to stick to the genealogical uses of those programs
-- but sharing ideas on how they can be used for genealogy is good.

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Steve Hayes
Moderator of Genealogy Software Forum

Just a reminder of the genealogical software discussion forum on YahooGroups

In is a good place for

* discussing programs you are using, and how to get the best out of them
* discussing programs you would like to see
* discussing improvements you would like to see in existing programs
* collaborating in developing programs that are useful for genealogists
* reviewing genealogy software
* announcing and commenting on new versions and programs
* anything else to do with computer programs used for genealogy

When discussing general software, such as word processors, spreadsheets,
databases etc., it is best to stick to the genealogical uses of those programs
-- but sharing ideas on how they can be used for genealogy is good.

Group Email Addresses
Post message:  gensoft@yahoogroups.com
Subscribe:  gensoft-subscribe@yahoogroups.com
Unsubscribe:  gensoft-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com
List owner:  gensoft-owner@yahoogroups.com

Group web site
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/gensoft

Steve Hayes
Moderator of Genealogy Software Forum

On Wed, 22 Jul 2009 00:27:43 -0400, in soc.history.moderated Steve Hayes
<hayesmstw@...> wrote:

On Tue, 21 Jul 2009 16:14:07 -0400, phuile <phuile@...> wrote:

>I am looking for a chronology software that allows me to input dates
>and notes on historical events and can store these data and display it
>in a timeline or similar ways. The graphical display is not as
>important as the fact that I can insert dates and events randomly and
>the software/database would store them and display them in a
>chronological sequence. Search function is important too. I would also
>need to be able to say, search for a period and see what events are
>around that period.
>Does anyone know of anything like this? I know of several "timeline"
>programs but they are too graphically and not as much a notes-link-to-
>database type of tool I need.

I have long felt the need for such software, which I think would be useful for
historians, biographers, family historians, local historians and others.

I tried to develop such a database in MS Access, and hoped that people who
were more into softwere development would help me refine and test it, but i
couldn't find anyone else who was interested.

I've discussed it in the past in soc.genealogy.computing.

The database has three main tables -- Events, People and Places.

Events are entered so that they can be sorted chronologically, with a brief
description.

The Places database could show what events took place in a particular place.

The People database would show people involved in the event, and in what
capacity they were involved -- participant, witness, host, guest etc.

I still feel the need for such a program, and I'm sure many others would find
it useful too, but I'm not a software developer, so I can just describe the
kind of thing I want.

In the absence of that, however, I've found askSam to be a useful program for
research notes.

http://www.asksam.com/





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--- In gensoft@yahoogroups.com, Steve Hayes <hayesstw@...> wrote:
>
> On Wed, 22 Jul 2009 00:27:43 -0400, in soc.history.moderated Steve Hayes
> <hayesmstw@...> wrote:
>
> On Tue, 21 Jul 2009 16:14:07 -0400, phuile <phuile@...> wrote:
>
> >I am looking for a chronology software that allows me to input dates
> >and notes on historical events and can store these data and display it
> >in a timeline or similar ways. The graphical display is not as
> >important as the fact that I can insert dates and events randomly and
> >the software/database would store them and display them in a
> >chronological sequence. Search function is important too. I would also
> >need to be able to say, search for a period and see what events are
> >around that period.
> >Does anyone know of anything like this? I know of several "timeline"
> >programs but they are too graphically and not as much a notes-link-to-
> >database type of tool I need.
>
> I have long felt the need for such software, which I think would be useful for
> historians, biographers, family historians, local historians and others.
>
> I tried to develop such a database in MS Access, and hoped that people who
> were more into softwere development would help me refine and test it, but i
> couldn't find anyone else who was interested.
>
> I've discussed it in the past in soc.genealogy.computing.
>
> The database has three main tables -- Events, People and Places.
>
> Events are entered so that they can be sorted chronologically, with a brief
> description.
>
> The Places database could show what events took place in a particular place.
>
> The People database would show people involved in the event, and in what
> capacity they were involved -- participant, witness, host, guest etc.
>
> I still feel the need for such a program, and I'm sure many others would find
> it useful too, but I'm not a software developer, so I can just describe the
> kind of thing I want.
>
> In the absence of that, however, I've found askSam to be a useful program for
> research notes.
>
> http://www.asksam.com/

It wouldn't be hard to write a Visual Basic stand-alone program to do this. I'm
no expert with VB but I'll help to get the ball rolling.

What about a few of us trying to design something on this group?

On 22 Jul 2009 at 9:24, Ray Murphy wrote:

> --- In gensoft@yahoogroups.com, Steve Hayes <hayesstw@...> wrote:
> > I've discussed it in the past in soc.genealogy.computing.
> >
> > The database has three main tables -- Events, People and Places.
> >
> > Events are entered so that they can be sorted chronologically, with a brief
> > description.
> >
> > The Places database could show what events took place in a particular place.
> >
> >
> > The People database would show people involved in the event, and in what
> > capacity they were involved -- participant, witness, host, guest etc.
> >
> > I still feel the need for such a program, and I'm sure many others would
> > find it useful too, but I'm not a software developer, so I can just describe
> > the kind of thing I want.

> It wouldn't be hard to write a Visual Basic stand-alone program to do this.
> I'm no expert with VB but I'll help to get the ball rolling.
>
> What about a few of us trying to design something on this group?

I think that that would be an excellent idea!

If you look at

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/gensoft/files/DevSoft/

you will find Access tables and a description of them for such a program,
which could be a starting point for discussion and development.


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