I think it is important. You have asserted that Daniel Quinn is a plagiarist and a fraud. Those are quite serious allegations. Ishmael.org states that Ishmael...
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wclary5424@...
billclary2002
Apr 8, 2010 4:42 am
... From: Janos Biro <janosbirozero@...> To: ishmael_discussion@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wed, Apr 7, 2010 11:58 am Subject: Re: [ishmael_discussion] DQ...
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Janos Biro
janosbiro
Apr 8, 2010 3:03 pm
Sthephen, We must take care not to assume that everyone that doesn't agree with us is somehow being deceived by civilization, like we were above it. I...
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Janos Biro
janosbiro
Apr 8, 2010 3:21 pm
Barbara, I am not accusing Daniel Quinn of anything. I said this is an hypothesis. I was quite sure Daniel Quinn said that Ishmael was out of print, but I...
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Janos Biro
janosbiro
Apr 8, 2010 3:43 pm
BC You are right about technology, I was just clarifying what I mean when I use that word. About Lorenz, sure, again, I did not said Lorenz originated this...
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wclary5424@...
billclary2002
Apr 8, 2010 5:21 pm
Janos, I am a materialist (in the philosophical sense of the term.) I realize that scientific materialism is only a metaphysical assumption, but it is a...
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Stephen Figgins
srfig
Apr 8, 2010 6:08 pm
... Sure, let's not get insulting. Or any more insulting, I guess. I meant to say that because the idea Quinn presents is foreign to us, people read many...
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Janos Biro
janosbiro
Apr 8, 2010 6:11 pm
Hi, I am not a materialist. Even though I think evolution is a very useful theory, I realize it's just a theory. It just INTERPRETS reality. My perception is...
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Janos Biro
janosbiro
Apr 8, 2010 7:08 pm
Stephen, I realize is not easy to become B, I took me many years to understand Quinn. I was never enthusiastic about it, I took it seriously, with some ...
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Stephen Figgins
srfig
Apr 8, 2010 7:13 pm
... So is gravity. We may someday gain a better understanding of gravity than we have today, but the phenomenon is going to be the same. Evolution is a ...
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Janos Biro
janosbiro
Apr 8, 2010 7:30 pm
Stephen, I do not believe in evolution. I know evolution. It's a pretty good theory. It explains a lot the origins of the species. But let me correct you: the ...
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Stephen Figgins
srfig
Apr 8, 2010 8:02 pm
... Because if we didn't want to survive we would not. Evolution suggests not wanting to survive would pretty quickly eliminate us from the gene pool. So ...
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Janos Biro
janosbiro
Apr 8, 2010 8:24 pm
"Because if we didn't want to survive we would not. Evolution suggests not wanting to survive would pretty quickly eliminate us from the gene pool. So nature...
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Stephen Figgins
srfig
Apr 8, 2010 8:43 pm
... I can't explain why we should or should not, not without a moral judgment, I can only explain why we do or do not. Does that make sense? Should implies...
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Stephen Figgins
srfig
Apr 8, 2010 9:02 pm
... No. I'm stating that we survive because we do have a will to survive. If we lose that will, we will not survive. ... Really? I've often wondered if my...
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Janos Biro
janosbiro
Apr 8, 2010 11:24 pm
Great. That's it. If I can be of any help irght now, I would like to recommend some things. First, a documentary: Betrayal by technology, with Jaques Ellul: ...
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Janos Biro
janosbiro
Apr 8, 2010 11:28 pm
Sthephen, Sure, it is a completely different thing from what I understood before, but it is still the same in some way, you see? Faith can be almost the...
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Stephen Figgins
srfig
Apr 9, 2010 12:07 am
On the subject of technology, I have enjoyed some of the writings of Steve Talbott. You might too. You can find his writings here: ...
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wclary5424@...
billclary2002
Apr 9, 2010 2:27 am
Stephen, Ellul is interesting. He was a Christian anarchist, which is a wonderfully peculiar combination. If you can find his *Christianity and Anarchism*,...
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David Swedlow
meme_pool
Apr 12, 2010 1:29 am
Hey Mike, I just finished Freedom (tm), Suarez's sequel to Daemon. I didn't realize that you had posted about Suarez when I responded to your Wakeup post until...
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Mike
d13wei
Apr 28, 2010 7:43 pm
David, Not to worry -- there will be some new members here soon, which is what I believe we need. It was not I who mentioned "Freedom", but I *am* reading it...
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Bill Maxwell
coyotedreams68
Apr 29, 2010 4:48 pm
Morning all! We were challenged to wake up, to think about what we're doing out there. I'm in Los Angeles, in a suburb, in one of the more challenging...
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frostyrush
Sep 26, 2010 9:03 pm
Hey Stephen, Your last 3 paragraphs really spoke to me, for many reasons. But most importantly, too, my focus is on books (and actions) that focus on making...
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frostyrush
Sep 26, 2010 10:55 pm
... in a different sense.....Let's just say I'm checking back in. It's nice to be able to use the terms "Mother Culture", "Taker", "Leaver", "Wage Slave" etc.,...
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friendsofishmael
friendsofish...
May 5, 2011 8:27 am
We've created a performance with dance, live music and poetry to tell the story of a young woman who awakens to the truths of the Law of Life and learns to...
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Richard Reese
reeserick49930
Oct 3, 2011 8:43 pm
I just finished reading Daniel Quinn’s *Ishmael* this morning, for the third or fourth time. Prior to my first reading, in 1994, I had already learned a ...
I just signed on to a letter (sponsored by the Sierra Club) calling on Congress to pass new legislation that would protect families from harmful chemicals....
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Charu
chimchimcharu
May 28, 2012 5:14 pm
The transitionus.org website is exactly what I needed to see this morning. Chim...
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a a
helterseltzer
Mar 18, 2013 5:08 pm
http://mi-casastore.com/uyjhtghft4ge.php?g=132491__entertainment==invasor al despertar reparo en que el aparato estaba describiendo circulos sobre una ciudad...
