Dear List,

I wondered if anyone out there has successfully completed their applications
through the MIami consulate.  I saw some old messages from Jill about trying to
make appointments and such, but I never saw the end of that thread.  I will be
moving to that consulate's jurisdiction in the very near future, and since I'm
still waiting on a document from Italy that the Chicago consulate is requiring
(my g-g-father's first wife's death certificate), I haven't actually completed
the application there.  I assume that means I'm going to have to start over with
the new consulate in Miami.

Has anyone successfully completed their applications?
Who is the contact person to whom I should address my application materials?
Are there any weirdly specific requirements anyone has heard of Miami requiring
that other consulates do not?

Thanks,

Lyn Hunter

Hi all,

I finally have all my required documentation + apostilles.  I was all ready to
find a translator.  Then I looked closely at the documents as the Chicago
consulate suggests you do.  There is some piece of information to be corrected
on each of the documents.  Did anyone else come across this?  Did you make the
corrections with the originating agencies, have the documents re-issued and
re-apostilled?  Or did they just take them as is knowing that sometimes mistakes
are made?

As an example, the worst is my grandmother's marriage certificate.  Her age,
birthplace and mother's first name are all incorrect (as it was a shotgun
wedding, presumably she was protecting certain facts from her soon-to-be
spouse).

Thanks in advance for your comments,

Kate

YES, I looked VERY close and caught all but ONE of the incorrect, and had
them fixed before. My father did not have a birth certificate and I had one
MADE. My mother used her first NAME on her Marriage Certificate and later on MY
birth certificate she used her SECOND name. But I had her birth certificate from
DENMARK and it had all 4 of her names. BUT, I changed my BIRTH certificate after
the Consulate accepted my mother BIRTH certificate from DENMARK anyway.
   It took TWO years to get my Grandfather Grandmother marriage from Italy. ONE
year for my Grandfathers birth certificate.
    I became an Daul Citizen in APRIL and still waiting for me and my wife Birth
certificate and Marriage certificate from ITALY.
    Good luck.








--- In italydualcitizen@yahoogroups.com, "kjfredin" <kjfredin@...> wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
> I finally have all my required documentation + apostilles.  I was all ready to
find a translator.  Then I looked closely at the documents as the Chicago
consulate suggests you do.  There is some piece of information to be corrected
on each of the documents.  Did anyone else come across this?  Did you make the
corrections with the originating agencies, have the documents re-issued and
re-apostilled?  Or did they just take them as is knowing that sometimes mistakes
are made?
>
> As an example, the worst is my grandmother's marriage certificate.  Her age,
birthplace and mother's first name are all incorrect (as it was a shotgun
wedding, presumably she was protecting certain facts from her soon-to-be
spouse).
>
> Thanks in advance for your comments,
>
> Kate
>

My original appointment was in May 2009 and I have spent the last year and a
half furnishing corrections and regularly being asked for more.  I believe that
I have now satisfied all of the New York consulate's requests and am in the
"waiting period" - wondering if my application is really complete - or not - and
hoping that I'll get an email any minute telling me I can apply for my Italian
passport.  I know of one person who got her "good news" email within 18 days,
and another who heard after about a month.  The consulate had suggested that I
should be hearing something within 2 months once my application is finalized
(which would be next week).

I am wondering if anyone in this group has gotten their Italian citizenship
through the New York consulate and how long it took to hear from them once your
application was complete.  Anything else you'd like to share regarding the
process through the New York Italian consulate would be welcome.

Thanks!

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How long does it take Ialy to make two birth certificates and one marriage
certificate?

I became a Italian citizen April 2010.

thanks

For whom are these birth and marriage certificates? When were these births and
marriage registered?

--- In italydualcitizen@yahoogroups.com, "Peter" <peter_pullano@...> wrote:
>
> How long does it take Italy to make two birth certificates and one marriage
certificate?
>
> I became a Italian citizen April 2010.
>
> thanks
>

I am planning to apply for dual citizenship in the near future and am still in
the process of obtaining documentation. I have found my great-grandfathers name
spelled a few different ways and my grandfather is named 'Gennaro Saglioccolo'
on his birth certificate but his name appears as 'Jerry Salucco' on my mother's
birth certificate. The problem that I've run into is that in Massachusetts you
can use any name you want as long as it is NOT used for unlawful purposes
(Commonwealth v. Lowell, 1977). How do I satisfy the Italian Consuls
requirements while staying within the laws of my state? Anyone with information?

Your mother will probably have to amend her own birth cert so that her father's
name matches his name on his own birth cert. How is your GF's name spelled on
his marriage and death certs and on your mother's marriage cert?

--- In italydualcitizen@yahoogroups.com, Ed DAmato <eddiejoe67@...> wrote:
>
> You'll have to check with the consulate to find out what they want.  You may
> very well have to have your great-grandfather's US records amended to correct
> the spelling to the original Italian.
>
>
> Ed
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: belwandr <mark_pearce@...>
> To: italydualcitizen@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Thu, April 28, 2011 11:12:06 AM
> Subject: [italydualcitizen] Name changes and discrepancies
>
>
> I am planning to apply for dual citizenship in the near future and am still in
> the process of obtaining documentation. I have found my great-grandfathers
name
> spelled a few different ways and my grandfather is named 'Gennaro Saglioccolo'
> on his birth certificate but his name appears as 'Jerry Salucco' on my
mother's
> birth certificate. The problem that I've run into is that in Massachusetts you
> can use any name you want as long as it is NOT used for unlawful purposes
> (Commonwealth v. Lowell, 1977). How do I satisfy the Italian Consuls
> requirements while staying within the laws of my state? Anyone with
information?
>

What I had to do, prove everything. My father had no birth certif, I had one
made but, had to prove he was born in USA. My mother used one name on her
marriage and another on MY birth, ( i could not change the marriage but, changed
on my birth (i have mother birth from denmark) also need proof of mothers name.
But mother birth certif was good enough, because it listed all her names, 1st
name 2nd name 3rd name and last name. Or two middle names.

good luck






--- In italydualcitizen@yahoogroups.com, "belwandr" <mark_pearce@...> wrote:
>
> I am planning to apply for dual citizenship in the near future and am still in
the process of obtaining documentation. I have found my great-grandfathers name
spelled a few different ways and my grandfather is named 'Gennaro Saglioccolo'
on his birth certificate but his name appears as 'Jerry Salucco' on my mother's
birth certificate. The problem that I've run into is that in Massachusetts you
can use any name you want as long as it is NOT used for unlawful purposes
(Commonwealth v. Lowell, 1977). How do I satisfy the Italian Consuls
requirements while staying within the laws of my state? Anyone with information?
>

Massachusetts won't amend a vital record unless it's a misspelling or wrong
date. Common law name changes are the name the person used on a regular basis
and cannot be changed. Apparently you can use the name Mickey Mouse in
Massachusetts and not have it be a problem unless you use it for fraudulent
reasons. Also, the biggest problem with GGF's documentation is his
naturalization papers which absolutely cannot be changed. Thanks Anyway Ed.
Anyone from Mass who may have dealt with this care to jump in?

--- In italydualcitizen@yahoogroups.com, Ed DAmato <eddiejoe67@...> wrote:
>
> You'll have to check with the consulate to find out what they want.  You may
> very well have to have your great-grandfather's US records amended to correct
> the spelling to the original Italian.
>
>
> Ed
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: belwandr <mark_pearce@...>
> To: italydualcitizen@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Thu, April 28, 2011 11:12:06 AM
> Subject: [italydualcitizen] Name changes and discrepancies
>
>
> I am planning to apply for dual citizenship in the near future and am still in
> the process of obtaining documentation. I have found my great-grandfathers
name
> spelled a few different ways and my grandfather is named 'Gennaro Saglioccolo'
> on his birth certificate but his name appears as 'Jerry Salucco' on my
mother's
> birth certificate. The problem that I've run into is that in Massachusetts you
> can use any name you want as long as it is NOT used for unlawful purposes
> (Commonwealth v. Lowell, 1977). How do I satisfy the Italian Consuls
> requirements while staying within the laws of my state? Anyone with
information?
>

Hello:

I would like to introduce myself to all members of this group.

I am the Italian Consular Correspondent in Minnesota for the Italian Consulate
of Chicago:
http://www.conschicago.esteri.it/Consolato_Chicago/Menu/Il_Consolato/La_rete_con\
solare/

In such capacity I act as a liaison with the Consulate and I assist American and
Italian individuals in various capacities including authentication of student
visas related documents, providing information on studying abroad, citizenship,
marriage in italy etc. These services are provided on a pro-bono basis in
accordance with the terms provided by the Italian Foreign Ministry.

Additionaly,by virtue of my profession as a professional translator and cross
cultural consultant: www.pavoloniinternational.com/, I also provide translation
and notarization of personal records: marriage, birth, death, adoption etc. as
well as translation of school documents such as diplomas, degrees and
transcripts from and into Italian and many other languages. Such services are
provided for a fee.

While my services as a Consular correspondent are restricted to individuals
residing in the State of Minnesota, my translation services are not subject to
any jurisdictional limitations.

Looking forward to bring a valid contribution to this group.

My regards to all
Marco Pavoloni

.. I have my citizenship, but can not seem to get the Government of Sellia, CZ
to send my records. Birth and Marriage.
    The Detroit consulate says, they will not write to Sellia, they have already
sent the papers, and Sellia government says they never received the papers and,
they will not write to the Detroit consulate.
    Sellia CZ has my Jus sanguinis, and all paper work acording to Detroit
Consulate.
    Why do these people get voted in office there?
SO what GIVES?

thanks













.

--- In italydualcitizen@yahoogroups.com, "Marco" <italconsmn@...> wrote:
>
> Hello:
>
> I would like to introduce myself to all members of this group.
>
> I am the Italian Consular Correspondent in Minnesota for the Italian Consulate
of Chicago:
http://www.conschicago.esteri.it/Consolato_Chicago/Menu/Il_Consolato/La_rete_con\
solare/
>
> In such capacity I act as a liaison with the Consulate and I assist American
and Italian individuals in various capacities including authentication of
student visas related documents, providing information on studying abroad,
citizenship, marriage in italy etc. These services are provided on a pro-bono
basis in accordance with the terms provided by the Italian Foreign Ministry.
>
> Additionaly,by virtue of my profession as a professional translator and cross
cultural consultant: www.pavoloniinternational.com/, I also provide translation
and notarization of personal records: marriage, birth, death, adoption etc. as
well as translation of school documents such as diplomas, degrees and
transcripts from and into Italian and many other languages. Such services are
provided for a fee.
>
> While my services as a Consular correspondent are restricted to individuals
residing in the State of Minnesota, my translation services are not subject to
any jurisdictional limitations.
>
> Looking forward to bring a valid contribution to this group.
>
> My regards to all
> Marco Pavoloni
>

You need to address this issue with the consulate of Detroit.
My jurisdiction is limited to the State of Minnesota.
Regards


--- In italydualcitizen@yahoogroups.com, "Peter" <peter_pullano@...> wrote:
>
> .. I have my citizenship, but can not seem to get the Government of Sellia, CZ
to send my records. Birth and Marriage.
>    The Detroit consulate says, they will not write to Sellia, they have
already sent the papers, and Sellia government says they never received the
papers and, they will not write to the Detroit consulate.
>    Sellia CZ has my Jus sanguinis, and all paper work acording to Detroit
Consulate.
>    Why do these people get voted in office there?
> SO what GIVES?
>
> thanks
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> .
>
> --- In italydualcitizen@yahoogroups.com, "Marco" <italconsmn@> wrote:
> >
> > Hello:
> >
> > I would like to introduce myself to all members of this group.
> >
> > I am the Italian Consular Correspondent in Minnesota for the Italian
Consulate of Chicago:
http://www.conschicago.esteri.it/Consolato_Chicago/Menu/Il_Consolato/La_rete_con\
solare/
> >
> > In such capacity I act as a liaison with the Consulate and I assist American
and Italian individuals in various capacities including authentication of
student visas related documents, providing information on studying abroad,
citizenship, marriage in italy etc. These services are provided on a pro-bono
basis in accordance with the terms provided by the Italian Foreign Ministry.
> >
> > Additionaly,by virtue of my profession as a professional translator and
cross cultural consultant: www.pavoloniinternational.com/, I also provide
translation and notarization of personal records: marriage, birth, death,
adoption etc. as well as translation of school documents such as diplomas,
degrees and transcripts from and into Italian and many other languages. Such
services are provided for a fee.
> >
> > While my services as a Consular correspondent are restricted to individuals
residing in the State of Minnesota, my translation services are not subject to
any jurisdictional limitations.
> >
> > Looking forward to bring a valid contribution to this group.
> >
> > My regards to all
> > Marco Pavoloni
> >
>

Hi All,

I'm offering ownership of this list, if someone with more time to invest would
like to take it over...

Ed

List of what?

--- In italydualcitizen@yahoogroups.com, "Ed" <eddiejoe67@...> wrote:
>
> Hi All,
>
> I'm offering ownership of this list, if someone with more time to invest would
like to take it over...
>
> Ed
>

After 2 frustrating years of dealing with the NY Italian consulate, my daughter
and I hired an attorney in Italy.  We began the process in Italy in April and,
just this morning, we learned that we are now OFFICIALLY ITALIAN!  If anyone in
this group is getting frustrated with the process in the US, I highly recommend
our attorney, Luigi Paiano:  http://www.luigipaiano.com/eng/  Tell him Antonia
sent you : )

I' ll give it a try

-----------------------





--- In italydualcitizen@yahoogroups.com, Ed DAmato <eddiejoe67@...> wrote:
>
> This Italy Dual Citizen Yahoo list.
> Ed
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: gmalcolms <gmalcolms@...>
> To: italydualcitizen@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Fri, May 27, 2011 10:59:11 PM
> Subject: [italydualcitizen] Re: Anyone want to take over this list?
>
>
> List of what?
>
> --- In italydualcitizen@yahoogroups.com, "Ed" <eddiejoe67@> wrote:
> >
> > Hi All,
> >
> > I'm offering ownership of this list, if someone with more time to invest
would
> >like to take it over...
> >
> > Ed
> >
>

YES I wrote email to http://www.luigipaiano.com/eng/ I wait for reply, what the
cost is?
----------------------------------------------------------

--- In italydualcitizen@yahoogroups.com, "voilaboheme" <voilaboheme@...> wrote:
>
> After 2 frustrating years of dealing with the NY Italian consulate, my
daughter and I hired an attorney in Italy.  We began the process in Italy in
April and, just this morning, we learned that we are now OFFICIALLY ITALIAN!  If
anyone in this group is getting frustrated with the process in the US, I highly
recommend our attorney, Luigi Paiano:  http://www.luigipaiano.com/eng/  Tell him
Antonia sent you : )
>

I have already spent lots of money for my italian citizenship, why not a little
more?

So if any other ATTORNEYS wish to get my papers, email a price. As it stands, I
need 6 copies each, one for each child of mine. MUST come from the Sellia CZ
government.

Also, if you don't think I will pay, you can ask, Gabriella Bozza Einaga
http://www.translatorscafe.com/cafe/member3350.htm
www.PayPal.com


I got my jure sanguinis 2010 April 14th, they have the papers from Detroit
consulate to Sellia CZ, but Davide Zicchinella  refuse to do his job.

So if paying an attorney to get my stuff, then maybe Davide Zicchinella  will
not be re-elected when they can not do there job.

----------------------------------------------------------
----------------------------------------------------------

--- In italydualcitizen@yahoogroups.com, stfive s <stfive@...> wrote:
>
>
>
>
> Wow!  "Satisfied customers" of this guy are turning up everywhere.  He must be
the busiest attorney in Italy.  Buyer beware!
>
>
> > To: italydualcitizen@yahoogroups.com
> > From: voilaboheme@...
> > Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2011 14:49:18 +0000
> > Subject: [italydualcitizen] OFFICIALLY ITALIAN!
> >
> > After 2 frustrating years of dealing with the NY Italian consulate, my
daughter and I hired an attorney in Italy. We began the process in Italy in
April and, just this morning, we learned that we are now OFFICIALLY ITALIAN! If
anyone in this group is getting frustrated with the process in the US, I highly
recommend our attorney, Luigi Paiano: http://www.luigipaiano.com/eng/ Tell him
Antonia sent you : )
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------------
> >
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
>

A group of us are hoping to initiate a dual-language Italian immersion program
within a public school (ideally here in Brooklyn). With close to 100
dual-language programs citywide, there's not a single one in Italian. In order
to initiate a new program, however, we have to prove the DOE and school
principals that there is sufficient demand and that we are able to fill seats. I
have created a FB page and a survey in order to gauge what the interest actually
is and to be able to provide concrete figures to the decision-makers. If you're
interested in sending your kids to a program like this, please join the group
and complete the survey. Needless to say, native Italian-speaking children are
critical to the program (as well as teachers!), but we are also interested in
hearing from people who would be interested in enrolling their children in the
program as Anglophones, so please pass this info along to anyone who might find
it interesting. Here are the links:

http://www.facebook.com/ItalianFamiliesNYC

http://www.surveymonkey.com/s/MWJJJMR

Thanks!

Christina

I don't know how I forgot about this... Peter: I made you a list owner.

Ed

--- In italydualcitizen@yahoogroups.com, "Peter" <peter_pullano@...> wrote:
>
> I' ll give it a try
>
> -----------------------
>
>
>
>
>
> --- In italydualcitizen@yahoogroups.com, Ed DAmato <eddiejoe67@> wrote:
> >
> > This Italy Dual Citizen Yahoo list.
> > Ed
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ________________________________
> > From: gmalcolms <gmalcolms@>
> > To: italydualcitizen@yahoogroups.com
> > Sent: Fri, May 27, 2011 10:59:11 PM
> > Subject: [italydualcitizen] Re: Anyone want to take over this list?
> >
> >
> > List of what?
> >
> > --- In italydualcitizen@yahoogroups.com, "Ed" <eddiejoe67@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi All,
> > >
> > > I'm offering ownership of this list, if someone with more time to invest
would
> > >like to take it over...
> > >
> > > Ed
> > >
> >
>