Hi everyone, I hope you're enjoying your celebrations. To those who feel that Kwanzaa is somehow divisive or "un-american", you couldn't be further from the...
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hool_igan
Dec 28, 2000 9:28 am
Does this mean you don't celebrate Christmas? For some reason, I bet you do. Christmas is not an American holiday, it's a Christian holiday. But the two are...
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prole_the_space_monkey
prole_the_sp...
Dec 28, 2000 9:45 am
what i see is that rascism and ignorance is two way street. i have met many americans of different races, that are openly racist towarrds other races. It is...
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es_toppel
Dec 28, 2000 3:20 pm
The real issue is not how to be diverse (we all are), but how to come together in peace in America in 2000. At best, Ron Karenga was a black nationalist who ...
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r1chard_99
Dec 28, 2000 3:25 pm
Kwanzaa isn't about dividing America on racial or religeous grounds prole_the_space_monkey - it is about people cooperating and working together as a...
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es_toppel
Dec 28, 2000 5:22 pm
Well, some of the principles of Kwanzaa are really not valid for a non-rural, non-agricultural, non-Marxist socioeconomic structure. <br><br>Bear in mind that...
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r1chard_99
Dec 28, 2000 7:26 pm
I wasn't suggesting that you saw the world as a threat es_toppel - I was replying to another posting if you had read it properly.<br><br>I dont know anything ...
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Shilly82
Dec 28, 2000 9:11 pm
Just to let you know DR. Maulana Karengo is a college professor at CSULB. I had the honor of being in several of his classes and his a very important figure...
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uncleduke9999
Dec 28, 2000 9:25 pm
Am I misinformed? I thought that this holiday WAS for African- Americans. Please help me on that....
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luckygal4you
Dec 28, 2000 10:22 pm
Hi want to learn more about this african american hoiday.a friend send me a card on it,which did not explain much. Hope to hear from you soon. Maxine...
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la_sheittia
Dec 28, 2000 11:22 pm
I too am excited about Kwanzaa.<br>I am planning a small gathering at my home for this Saturday (approx 12 adults). I am looking for ideas on ways to involve...
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bnsf7173
Dec 28, 2000 11:44 pm
Richard, you are so right! I'm afraid we Americans can be down right rude and think they are better than every other country! I hope I don't come across that...
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prole_the_space_monkey
prole_the_sp...
Dec 29, 2000 7:56 am
the holiday of kwanzaa i say is not evil or bad or any thing of the sort it promotes peace and love. <br><br>What it does do to the psychology of some...
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prole_the_space_monkey
prole_the_sp...
Dec 29, 2000 8:10 am
i was seriously disturbed and offended by the idea of the thought of a pro american marxist, when the two ideoligies are quite opposed to each other. marx...
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prole_the_space_monkey
prole_the_sp...
Dec 29, 2000 8:52 am
what it ultimately boils down to is that there has been since the beginings of america a premedetated idea to get rid of american independence.<br><br>the...
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r1chard_99
Dec 29, 2000 10:57 am
Well you are getting into a whole other arguement here, and I dont want to spoil this club to celebrate Kwanzaa by going down that road.<br><br>You have a ...
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spydieweb
Dec 29, 2000 12:22 pm
Hi to those club members interested in learning about Kwanzaa.<br><br>This is just a request but can the founders please remove all those ignorant 'members'...
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uptown_gyrl
Dec 29, 2000 2:27 pm
there has been some discussion that Kwanzaa is a celebration that divides people. Well I am new to celebrating Kwanzaa and have not read everything about it...
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es_toppel
Dec 29, 2000 6:52 pm
You don't see anything rural about the economy of Africa? When I was there, it certainly seemed rural....
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es_toppel
Dec 29, 2000 6:57 pm
Well, Ron Karenga was a black nationalist in the 1960s. He was also a criminal at the time, and he participated in armed robbery, kidnapping, and torture. Then...
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es_toppel
Dec 29, 2000 6:59 pm
Hum, let's see here. Ron Karenga is black and has a doctorate. I'm black and have a doctorate. Yes, by all means, let's kick me out for telling the truth about...
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uptown_gyrl
Dec 29, 2000 7:18 pm
I am not really wanting get into this argument but a couple of times you have mentioned that Kwanzaa is a made up holiday. Aren't all holiday celebrations made...
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the_mutterer
Dec 29, 2000 8:31 pm
Someone more learned than me (perhaps es_toppel, who seems to be more learned than everyone…) will be able to cite a source for this, but I believe that ...
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rangerrick75th
Dec 30, 2000 1:39 am
Among Bill Clinton's numerous despicable distinctions is the fact that <br>he<br>is the first occupant of the Oval Office to extend official ...
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rangerrick75th
Dec 30, 2000 1:40 am
This is the stuff of parody; it is a photographic <br>negative of the rites<br>conducted by bedsheet-bedecked white supremacists who <br>cavort...
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es_toppel
Dec 30, 2000 3:01 pm
Yes, in the final analysis, all culture is simply made up. It is a matter of people choosing to believe what they want to. I was merely pointing out that, if ...
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bnsf7173
Jan 2, 2001 7:04 pm
Sounds like you don't like anything that has been said in here....
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es_toppel
Jan 3, 2001 3:58 pm
Not at all. I love the idea of a holiday festival not based on the profit motive alone. However, the plain fact is that Ron Kerenga was a criminal who made up...
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RasNubian
Jan 11, 2001 3:18 pm
I FIND IT A JOY TO FIND SUCH CLUBS AS THE ONES I HAVE FOUND ON THE NET PERTAINING TO CONSIOUS MINDS AND PEOPLE WHO ACTUALLY CARE ABOUT SOMETHING OF SUBSTANCE ...
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djwilsonandassos
djwilsonanda...
May 13, 2001 2:47 pm
Let's do this!!!!<br>This is something to just think about!!!!!!<br>If this message spreads like those Tavis Smiley and Jesse Jackson messages, we may be able ...
