Hi John,

> The second problem was getting the steppers to move in metric. It has an
> imperial thread and I work exclusively in Metric. I clamped a digital
> vernier on the mill table so I could check the accuracy of the imperial
> to metric conversion. I did get a very small error and it was not linear
> so suspect it is an error in the vernier! However for my purposes it was
> fine. Tuning the motors was easy.

Could the error be caused by backlash?

--
Dave Hylands
Vancouver, BC, Canada
http://www.DaveHylands.com/

On Sun, 01 Jan 2006 10:53:34 -0400, you wrote:

>6) IJ Arcs in Turn. I cannot find any errors here, the IJ inc and IJ abs
>seem to work OK here, as always use caution and dry runs all your Lathe code
>to ensure you get what you expect.. Turn will be getting a makeover this
>year when I finally setup a lathe for testing.. The new importer is planned
>to have Lathe profiling added to it as well for making small lathe projects
>graphically. Hopefully it wont be too long..

Hi Art - abs/inc arcs works as should on some files, but not all?

There is another bug I noticed while trying lots of old files, those
files containing old M6 T1 G43 H1 format are not roaring as they should,
but run normally and pause for tool changes, only thing is offsets
aren't applied.

Could cause a nasty tool crash to the unwary.

Thanks

Steve Blackmore
--

Forgot to ask, what kind of modbus encoding Mach3 uses? RTU or ASCII?

Thanks!

At 12:14 01-01-06, you wrote:
>Pablo:
>
> Yes, that should work fine, though I have never tested ModBus over a
>virtual connection..
>
>Thanks,
>Art
>www.artofcnc.ca
>
>Videos And Support Forums http://www.machsupport.com
>Users Map: http://www.frappr.com/machsupport
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Pablo Untroib" <pablo@...>
>To: <mach1mach2cnc@yahoogroups.com>
>Sent: Sunday, January 01, 2006 10:53 AM
>Subject: Re: [listas] Re: [mach1mach2cnc] modbus/rs-485
>
>
>> So If I understand correctly, to communicate with mach3 I should use
>> modbus over rs232? (over a virtual com port via USB)
>>
>> At 11:42 01-01-06, you wrote:
>>>Hi Pablo:
>>>
>>>  RS485 is simply a faster serial protocol and requires using a serial
>>> port
>>>RS485 convertor. Alot of ModBus protocols support this mode, but thats a
>>>serial protocol, where ModBus is the base language of the transmission..
>>>
>>>Thanks,
>>>Art
>>>www.artofcnc.ca
>>>
>>>Videos And Support Forums http://www.machsupport.com
>>>Users Map: http://www.frappr.com/machsupport
>>>----- Original Message -----
>>>From: "Pablo Untroib" <pablo@...>
>>>To: <mach1mach2cnc@yahoogroups.com>
>>>Sent: Sunday, January 01, 2006 10:38 AM
>>>Subject: [mach1mach2cnc] modbus/rs-485
>>>
>>>
>>>> Happy new year!
>>>>
>>>> One question, Im a bit confused and google only managed to add to my
>>>> confusion, could someone explain me the difference between modbus and
>>>> rs-485 ?
>>>>
>>>> Im experimenting with USB enabled PIC microcontrollers to try to
>>>> communicate with mach via this protocol (Pendant in mind)
>>>>
>>>> Are there different flavors of modbus? what should be implemented and
>>>> what
>>>> not?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks in advance
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Pablo E. Untroib
>>>> -------
>>>>  >
>>>
>>>
>>>www.machsupport.com - Web site Access
>>>Yahoo! Groups Links
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> Pablo E. Untroib
>> -------
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>>
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>>
>>
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>
>
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Pablo E. Untroib
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RTU. Most implementations are using RTU, or are compatible with RTU and
ASCII.

RTU is faster.


Ascii should be compatible with 7 bits transmissions chanels !!


How many transmission chanels are 7 bits today ? Telex ? :=)


I don't see where ascii can be usefull today, any idea ?



Olivier.


Olivier ADLER
http://perso.wanadoo.fr/olivier.adler

On Sun, 01 Jan 2006 20:17:39 +0000, you wrote:


>There is another bug I noticed while trying lots of old files, those
>files containing old M6 T1 G43 H1 format are not roaring as they should,
  ^^^^^^^^^

Stupid spell chucker, should read "erroring" <G>


>but run normally and pause for tool changes, only thing is offsets
>aren't applied.


Steve Blackmore
--

I have loaded patch V9 and this seems to have cured the problems !
  Thanx to all who helped on this

Aaron

-----Original Message-----
From: mach1mach2cnc@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:mach1mach2cnc@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Aaron
Sent: 01 January 2006 15:01
To: mach1mach2cnc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [mach1mach2cnc] Re: Anyone using visualmill 5???

I have got vm setup for absolute and it codes G90 into the program

...mach3 is also set for absolute

-----Original Message-----
From: mach1mach2cnc@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:mach1mach2cnc@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of art
Sent: 01 January 2006 14:41
To: mach1mach2cnc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [mach1mach2cnc] Re: Anyone using visualmill 5???

Aaron:

  Change the IJ mode, does it help..

Thanks,
Art
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Aaron" <azzi_b@...>
To: <mach1mach2cnc@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, January 01, 2006 10:06 AM
Subject: RE: [mach1mach2cnc] Re: Anyone using visualmill 5???


>I have tried this and now get G03's for the spiral cuts, but mach3 now
> complains about the arc start and end points !
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: mach1mach2cnc@yahoogroups.com
> [mailto:mach1mach2cnc@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Kiran Shah
> Sent: 01 January 2006 04:57
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Hi Dave

No I was very careful to make sure I ran the axis past and returned it
in the direction I was going to measure. I do have some backlash as I
guess all these Taig mills have, a shame they dont have ball screws

John.





In message
<c32efac40601011158w11735aadif9c37e41bfc1c986@...>, Dave
Hylands <dhylands@...> writes
>Hi John,
>
>> The second problem was getting the steppers to move in metric. It has
>an
>> imperial thread and I work exclusively in Metric. I clamped a digital
>> vernier on the mill table so I could check the accuracy of the imperial
>> to metric conversion. I did get a very small error and it was not linear
>> so suspect it is an error in the vernier! However for my purposes it was
>> fine. Tuning the motors was easy.
>
>Could the error be caused by backlash?
>
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>Vancouver, BC, Canada
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The controller only accepts their own motion control language. The
conversion module translates HPGL, dxf or g-code into that format. It
does not do cutter compensation or any other cam functions. If you want
a simple DXF to G-code converter, have a hunt on google for Ace
converter. If you want to do cutter compensation, pocketing etc then
have a look at SheetCam <www.sheetcam.com>.

Les

nattyone960 wrote:

>According to the blurb on their site it has two parts.
>The controller and the Design and Conversion Module, which is able to
>import and manipulate DXF.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>www.machsupport.com - Web site Access
>Yahoo! Groups Links
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>
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>
>
>
>
>
>

In mach 3 my rapid IPM is exceeding the motor tuning max IPM.  I am
getting a fault condition in the Gecko 320's as a result.  Any ideas?
Thank You
Carl

oh..THAT explains it....I was looking for a missing .wav file here
that prevented me from hearing the ROAR!  heh!...

--- In mach1mach2cnc@yahoogroups.com, Steve Blackmore <steve@p...>
wrote:
>
> On Sun, 01 Jan 2006 20:17:39 +0000, you wrote:
>
>
> >There is another bug I noticed while trying lots of old files,
those
> >files containing old M6 T1 G43 H1 format are not roaring as they
should,
>  ^^^^^^^^^
>
> Stupid spell chucker, should read "erroring" <G>
>
>
> >but run normally and pause for tool changes, only thing is offsets
> >aren't applied.
>
>
> Steve Blackmore
> --
>

Art,
You are the best.  That was the trick. Everything is on the mark now.
Do you know of any reason that the picture doesn't seem to line up
with the 0 X axis in Mach2 software.  It is not a big deal for me, but
just wondering.
Thanks,
Tim


--- In mach1mach2cnc@yahoogroups.com, art <fenerty@a...> wrote:
>
> Tim:
>
>    Slow down the Z motors velocity in the motor tuning by half and
retest,
> any difference..
>
> Thanks,
> Art
> www.artofcnc.ca
>
> Videos And Support Forums http://www.machsupport.com
> Users Map: http://www.frappr.com/machsupport
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "tjmozart" <tjmozart@y...>
> To: <mach1mach2cnc@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Saturday, December 31, 2005 8:55 PM
> Subject: [mach1mach2cnc] Re: G Code/Setup Problem
>
>
> > Mach2 says 0.
> > g1z1 = 1"
> > g0z0 = .75"
> > When measuring with I lost .25" when returning to 0
> > Thanks,
> > Tim
> >
> >
> >
> > --- In mach1mach2cnc@yahoogroups.com, art <fenerty@a...> wrote:
> >>
> >> Tim:
> >>
> >>   Check your motor tuning, sounds like th eZ motor is set too high.
> > Is it
> >> losing steps or returning to zero when you do
> >>
> >> g1z1
> >> g0z0  ?
> >>
> >> Thanks,
> >> Art
> >> www.artofcnc.ca
> >>
> >> Videos And Support Forums http://www.machsupport.com
> >> Users Map: http://www.frappr.com/machsupport
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: "tjmozart" <tjmozart@y...>
> >> To: <mach1mach2cnc@yahoogroups.com>
> >> Sent: Saturday, December 31, 2005 2:46 PM
> >> Subject: [mach1mach2cnc] G Code/Setup Problem
> >>
> >>
> >> >I am restoring my crashed system and have ran into a strange
problem.
> >> > I have Sherline equipment using Mach 2. After setting my motor
> >> > tunings, when I manually run my lathe with the hot keys 1" =
1".  When
> >> > I run it with G code G1Z1 1" = 1"  G0Z1 1" = about .5" I do not
really
> >> > understand the G1 vs G0 this program was written for me by Bob
CAD cam
> >> > and worked great before the crash.  How can there be a
difference in
> >> > distance when using G Code vs manually with the hot keys.
> >> > Any help would be greatly appreciated
> >> > Thanks,
> >> > Tim Conrad
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>

Carl:

    Is your Rapid OverRide turned on in the settings page?

If you do a G0X10, what speed shows up in the Feedrate display? What is the
max set?

Thanks,
Art
www.artofcnc.ca

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----- Original Message -----
From: "carlnpa" <caseils@...>
To: <mach1mach2cnc@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, January 01, 2006 6:00 PM
Subject: [mach1mach2cnc] Rapid IPM exceeds motor tuningIPM, causes 320 fault


> In mach 3 my rapid IPM is exceeding the motor tuning max IPM.  I am
> getting a fault condition in the Gecko 320's as a result.  Any ideas?
> Thank You
> Carl
>
>
>
>
>
> www.machsupport.com - Web site Access
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>
>

Steve:

   Ahh.. Yes that I can see. It came from me turning on the M6 functionallity
just in case it might need to be used...

   And the T1 wont hook the tool properly I guess , it woudl be seen as a
T0100 I think... I'll look into taking the T01 entry as a T0101 , that
shoudl fix that possibility..

Thanks,
Art
www.artofcnc.ca

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Steve Blackmore" <steve@...>
To: <mach1mach2cnc@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, January 01, 2006 4:57 PM
Subject: Re: [mach1mach2cnc] Version 1.83.042


> On Sun, 01 Jan 2006 20:17:39 +0000, you wrote:
>
>
>>There is another bug I noticed while trying lots of old files, those
>>files containing old M6 T1 G43 H1 format are not roaring as they should,
> ^^^^^^^^^
>
> Stupid spell chucker, should read "erroring" <G>
>
>
>>but run normally and pause for tool changes, only thing is offsets
>>aren't applied.
>
>
> Steve Blackmore
> --
>
>
> www.machsupport.com - Web site Access
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>
>

Last time i got this problem, it was a setup file (.XML) problem. Retuning
the motor solved it (inside Config, motor tuning setup screen).

Olivier.



Olivier ADLER
http://perso.wanadoo.fr/olivier.adler

I've done quite a few Modbus implementations and I haven't seen a Modbus
ASCII implementation in years.

I think it would only be used in a new installation to maintain
compatibility to an existing system.

Dave

  >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

Olivier wrote:

>RTU. Most implementations are using RTU, or are compatible with RTU and
>ASCII.
>
>RTU is faster.
>
>
>Ascii should be compatible with 7 bits transmissions chanels !!
>
>
>How many transmission chanels are 7 bits today ? Telex ? :=)
>
>
>I don't see where ascii can be usefull today, any idea ?
>
>
>
>Olivier.
>
>
>Olivier ADLER
>http://perso.wanadoo.fr/olivier.adler
>
>
>
>
>
>www.machsupport.com - Web site Access
>Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

I am using Mach3 and when I try to load a DFX file in I got no DFX
window at all. I have installed the program Mach3 on two different
computers and I have the same result in both. Please help.

thanks Art
--- In mach1mach2cnc@yahoogroups.com, art <fenerty@a...> wrote:
>
> Hi Mike:
>
>  Is this in Mill? The offset LED and button in Mill is for Z
offsets, not
> for diameter offsets. Diameter offsets are controlled only by the
G41/G42
> controlls. G43 Length offsets are conmtrolled by that button and
LED..
>
> Thanks,
> Art
> www.artofcnc.ca
>
> Videos And Support Forums http://www.machsupport.com
> Users Map: http://www.frappr.com/machsupport
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "mike lera" <MLera95325@a...>
> To: <mach1mach2cnc@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Saturday, December 31, 2005 7:49 PM
> Subject: [mach1mach2cnc] tool offsets
>
>
> > ok iam learning
> > tool offset page
> > if i enter a tool size in the offset say as tool 1 and a dia.
of .25
> > and save it then another pop up comes up i click on apply then go
to
> > program run .25 showes in the tool offset. I think this is correct
> >
> > now back to
>

Is there any way of setting and maintaining a global var within mach3
for use in macropump macro's

I want to be able to set a var and use this var for comparison within
macropump

Thanx

Aaron


[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Hi, Art and all  Happy New Year !!!!!!

Ver.042 fixed alot of the ZZZZ..... issue's I was haveing.
I think there still some lurking around.

This code below runs fine fwd. and rev. as long as you don't pause in
the line n5 g02....
It's ok if you continue fwd. even if you jog around.
If you pause and Rev. Run it loses the Z value

Another item. If you jog around with the mouse jog button's and the
move pointer off the button before releasing it.
IT will continue to jog until you go back and cilck eather of the axis
(+ or-) buttons you were joging with.

Also  before ver.039 or so, I could use the arrow keys to jog after
pausing.

(chiptest2sn)
n1 g00 x0 y0 z0
n2 g00 x5 y5 z-2.5
n3 g01 x10 y10 f100
n4 g01 z-10 f100
n5 g02 x10 y10 z-5 i11.0 j11.0 f100
n6 g01 z0
n7 g01 x0 y0 f100
n8 m5
n9 m30

Thanks, Chip


--- In mach1mach2cnc@yahoogroups.com, "John Meissner" <jmnotions@c...>
wrote:
>
> oh..THAT explains it....I was looking for a missing .wav file here
> that prevented me from hearing the ROAR!  heh!...
>
> --- In mach1mach2cnc@yahoogroups.com, Steve Blackmore <steve@p...>
> wrote:
> >
> > On Sun, 01 Jan 2006 20:17:39 +0000, you wrote:
> >
> >
> > >There is another bug I noticed while trying lots of old files,
> those
> > >files containing old M6 T1 G43 H1 format are not roaring as they
> should,
> >  ^^^^^^^^^
> >
> > Stupid spell chucker, should read "erroring" <G>
> >
> >
> > >but run normally and pause for tool changes, only thing is offsets
> > >aren't applied.
> >
> >
> > Steve Blackmore
> > --
> >
>

Tim:

  Doesnt line up? Not sure I understand..

Thanks,
Art
www.artofcnc.ca

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----- Original Message -----
From: "tjmozart" <tjmozart@...>
To: <mach1mach2cnc@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, January 01, 2006 6:27 PM
Subject: [mach1mach2cnc] Re: G Code/Setup Problem


> Art,
> You are the best.  That was the trick. Everything is on the mark now.
> Do you know of any reason that the picture doesn't seem to line up
> with the 0 X axis in Mach2 software.  It is not a big deal for me, but
> just wondering.
> Thanks,
> Tim
>
>
> --- In  >

Hi:

  Youll need XP or Win2000 to run it , but I do think it will run in Mach..

Thanks,
Art
www.artofcnc.ca

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----- Original Message -----
From: "john odhiambo" <simbamkuu@...>
To: <mach1mach2cnc@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, December 31, 2005 2:22 PM
Subject: [mach1mach2cnc] microproto controller with mach2


> I bought a 4 axis microproto cont which came with
> mpspro soft for my taig mill.The controller will not
> turn the motors. I am using a windows 98 computer via
> the parallel port.I also know that its possible to use
> this controller with mach2. anybody out there with
> this kind of info and any recomendations?
>
>
>
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Hi:

  You mean nothing happens when you select DXF import??

Thanks,
Art
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----- Original Message -----
From: "on7tim7" <on7tim7@...>
To: <mach1mach2cnc@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, January 01, 2006 7:17 PM
Subject: [mach1mach2cnc] Loading DFX files.


>   I am using Mach3 and when I try to load a DFX file in I got no DFX
> window at all. I have installed the program Mach3 on two different
> computers and I have the same result in both. Please help.
>
>
>
>
>
> www.machsupport.com - Web site Access
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>
>

On Sun, 01 Jan 2006 22:13:21 -0000, you wrote:

>oh..THAT explains it....I was looking for a missing .wav file here
>that prevented me from hearing the ROAR!  heh!...

Computers, gotta luv 'em, NOT - I deal with the buggers every day :(

I work (most days) in an old,1790's, haunted ex slaughter house/meat
store building that has two floors, my office and workshop are upstairs.
It also now has a flat roof after a fatal fire in the twenties ( two
people died in the building).

My favourite trick is if a customer brings in a really old computer
that's beyond repair, I tell them I'm going to shock test it.

I walk out of the fire escape, up onto the roof, and drop it onto the
concrete about 30 feet below in front of them ;0

Great for the soul, my ghosts find it amusing too - but that's another
story ;)

Ma - bring me the scatter gun! (If only ;)


Steve Blackmore
--

Hi guys,
         Been trying to set up our gantry machine here all day. Same
problem has plagued us the whole time.
         Motors are 276oz. in. NEMA 23's, 2.8A. Driver board is the new
Xylotex 4axis unit at 2.5A and 30V max. Software is Mach2, downloaded
yesterday. We've tried both a 333 mhz PII and a 2.4ghz Celeron with
equal results. We downloaded the xml file from the utilities folder in
the files section and tried using that (think it's called
mach2-dhylands.xml) and that seems to be pretty close to working, but
not quite. Also did the windows optimization thing on the 333 mhz
machine; no effect on the motors.
         The problem is that, while jogging (haven't got past jogging
yet) the stepper randomly changes direction about every 4 or 5 times we
press the jog key (continuos mode). This occurs whether the motor is
loaded or running free. The motor will lock up after  10 or 20 jogs as
well. Give the shaft a little finger-tweak and off it goes again.
         Vref's have been checked and adjusted up and down with no
effect. Doesn't seem to be any interference, either: If you hold down
the jog button the motor will spin along nicely for as long as you hold
down the key with no hint of interruption (blipping, chirping, etc).

     Any ideas?


Keith







[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

I find a good way to do this is wth a DRO. You don't have to have the
dro on the screen to save to it and you can see the data if you like
real time.

The code will look like this :
Call SetUserDRO(1000,SomevAar) 'set the readout
x = GetoemDRO(1000) ' to get the data
The other one that you can use is the uservar in Mach3
Call setVer(100,someotherdata)
x = getvar(100)

The DRO will save the data after power down and the Var will not!

Hope that helps
Brian
--- In mach1mach2cnc@yahoogroups.com, "Aaron" <azzi_b@y...> wrote:
>
> Is there any way of setting and maintaining a global var within mach3
> for use in macropump macro's
>
> I want to be able to set a var and use this var for comparison within
> macropump
>
> Thanx
>
> Aaron
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

>I bought a 4 axis microproto cont which came with
>mpspro soft for my taig mill.The controller will not
>turn the motors. I am using a windows 98 computer via
>the parallel port.I also know that its possible to use
>this controller with mach2. anybody out there with
>this kind of info and any recomendations?

Have you tried moving the motors using MPSpro?
Is the computer a laptop?  (i.e. does it have 3v parallel port outputs?)
In Win98, go to the shut down menu, then select "Restart in Dos mode"
then run MPSpro.
(typing "exit" on the command line will re-start Win98 again.)

Make sure the motors are running with the MPS software first, so you
know that they *do* run...
Then try it with Mach.

   = Rich =

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Art, I have a situation with a customer of mine where he is losing
steps using a Rutex servo system.  Have you heard of a servo system
losing steps.  This was my personal machine and I have run it for
hours and hours with no known issuses, but we just ran a four hour
mold and lost about .010 or so over the duration.  This is the third
time in a row for this.  The interesting thing is that the steps are
lost in the exact same place in the code. The worst case was about
0.075 or so.  I ran it on my computer tonight and the first run had
the errors in the same place but not as bad.  Any thoughts?  Thanks.

Hi:

   If you lower the acceleration, does it still do it? Can you localise the
code that creates the trouble??

  I have heard of Servo's losing position, if they pick up noise n the Step
or Dir lines, they will lose. Its just about the only way they can though,
other than noise on the encoder lines..

Thanks,
Art
www.artofcnc.ca

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----- Original Message -----
From: "jsbuggy1" <jsbuggy1@...>
To: <mach1mach2cnc@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, January 01, 2006 11:25 PM
Subject: [mach1mach2cnc] lost step using servo system.


> Art, I have a situation with a customer of mine where he is losing
> steps using a Rutex servo system.  Have you heard of a servo system
> losing steps.  This was my personal machine and I have run it for
> hours and hours with no known issuses, but we just ran a four hour
> mold and lost about .010 or so over the duration.  This is the third
> time in a row for this.  The interesting thing is that the steps are
> lost in the exact same place in the code. The worst case was about
> 0.075 or so.  I ran it on my computer tonight and the first run had
> the errors in the same place but not as bad.  Any thoughts?  Thanks.
>
>
>
>
>
> www.machsupport.com - Web site Access
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>
>

In the graphical window there is a line that divides the windows from
left to right.  I was assuming this is the X axis and the 0 point.  My
part appears to be about 1/2 an inch below this line.  I was thinking
the part should be right agaist the bottom of the line.  Is this correct?
Thanks,
Tim


--- In mach1mach2cnc@yahoogroups.com, art <fenerty@a...> wrote:
>
> Tim:
>
>  Doesnt line up? Not sure I understand..
>
> Thanks,
> Art
> www.artofcnc.ca
>
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> Users Map: http://www.frappr.com/machsupport
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "tjmozart" <tjmozart@y...>
> To: <mach1mach2cnc@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Sunday, January 01, 2006 6:27 PM
> Subject: [mach1mach2cnc] Re: G Code/Setup Problem
>
>
> > Art,
> > You are the best.  That was the trick. Everything is on the mark now.
> > Do you know of any reason that the picture doesn't seem to line up
> > with the 0 X axis in Mach2 software.  It is not a big deal for me, but
> > just wondering.
> > Thanks,
> > Tim
> >
> >
> > --- In  >
>

Steve

You gotta set up a hidden video recorder so you can capture your customer
reactions and post them, so the rest of the world can enjoy the fun

Dave
----- Original Message -----
From: "Steve Blackmore" <steve@...>
To: <mach1mach2cnc@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, January 01, 2006 6:08 PM
Subject: Re: [mach1mach2cnc] Re: Version 1.83.042


> On Sun, 01 Jan 2006 22:13:21 -0000, you wrote:
>
> >oh..THAT explains it....I was looking for a missing .wav file here
> >that prevented me from hearing the ROAR!  heh!...
>
> Computers, gotta luv 'em, NOT - I deal with the buggers every day :(