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I hope I can make coherent.
 
I have been trying to observe myself through the process of being awake into the dreams state. It has been 30-40 years ago when I could. I must not have the dedication that I did then. I seem to get started and then dreamland, no process. When I could do it I would noticed hear ing was the first to go. That was esay to notice, I lived above a freeway in Seattle downtown.
 
I found guided imagery most helpful in the beginning. I like to observe, I would observe what went on during a guided imagery period. I soon found myself not following the presentor and go on my own after getting started (I call this The Launching Pad).  Some of the experiences were spectacular. I found people tryied to interpret my experiences and found they didn't fit my experiences. I have later learned that by observing the detail in the experience the meanings of are in the experience. They are complete.
 
Probably, the next important step was working at a place that had three elevators. I set a task of determining which elevator would open first. It did take long until I noticed the feelings being different between when I was incorrect and when I was correct. Instead of dwelling on the idea that I was wrong, I became more involved with the feelings that I had when I was correct. I eventually, was able to prediction with 100% certainity which elevator would open. I stopped doing that when I started hearing the people's voices and thoguhts in the elevator while it was moving. The voices were different than their thoughts in charatertics and content.
 
I learned another exercise by watch my granddaughter and her friend. They were flipping a coin and "guessing" when it would be heads or tails. My granddaughter be came frustrated because she was not correct most of the time her friend was all the time. Her friend trying to reduce the frustration by telling my granddaughter to use her imagination. I have used this exercise on others. I found one that did it every time but one. I asked her what was different. She replied,  that she thought she couldn't be correct everytime.
 
Another point that may be helpful. I was meditating one day and was aware that two subjects was presenting themselves. However, I hadn't noticed that my attention was switching from one to the other. I kept the experience in mind and would re-play it. I kept that up until I observed my switching from one to the other. After that, both subjects became clear. I have found by re-playing my dreams this way and, if I oberved enough detail, the meaning of the dream would explain itself. Sometimes, while re-playhing a the dream more detail would present itself to make the dream clear.
 
I guess, the reason I haven't pursued these experiences so intently is that I now know that I am being "protected" and to just live and except the other persons where they are. After all they have their own experiences to live through.
 
If there is message in this, it is to live and pay attention to that (not those) feeling that works everytime.
 
I had an all night experience when I was about 16 that presented my whole life while on earth through death. Every detail literal or symbolic has occured except the period before death. From this experience, though we leave our body, we do not die but, go on. I also noticed that it didn't mater as to what one had or had not done, we are all equal.
 

Ron
 


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I hope I can make coherent. I have been trying to observe myself through the process of being awake into the dreams state. It has been 30-40 years ago when I...
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Hi Ron, if you want to investigate more in astral projection in relation with self knowledge see the site www.mysticweb.org , there are free courses. All the...
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This will give some aditional reading. Thanks Ron My last posting 4-12-04 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/PredictionStory/ ... From: Ilias To:...
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