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#3666

From: Des Bromilow <desbromilow@...>
Date: Tue Jan 11, 2011 11:47 pm
Subject: motor mount suggestions for bench lathe

desbromilow

Gents,

about to start building a new motor mount for my taig lathe.

I want to have a way to unload the belt (to slacken it so it doesn't stretch unnecessarily, and also to to allow me to turn the spindle without the motor generating (I'm using a DC motor for drive in the next iteration of my Taig)

Has anyone got some good designs or plans for a mount?

current plan is two angle irons with some 10mm rod between them (bench set), then two more angles riding on/in the rods (motor set) with a screw adjuster to drive the motor set relative to the bench set. A plate will be bolted to the motor set to secure the motor, and allow adjustment at right angle to the rods/thread. - A cam/ramp mechanism will be introduced into the thrust collar/locating area of the threaded rod to provide a "lever actuated unloading" mechanism.

If someone has a better design, or can spot faults in the above design, please let me know..

the motor is fairly light, so my previous design which used a hinge and the motor weight for tension won't work unless I spring load it - not as easy with the new lathe stand.

Thanks,
Des
Oz

#3667

From: James Early <jwearly1@...>
Date: Tue Jan 11, 2011 11:56 pm
Subject: Re: motor mount suggestions for bench lathe

j.w.early...

As I remember from my Taig years ago the other point I always wanted was the
ability for a lower speed for hard materials as well. Have you ever looked at a
countershaft system like is used on the South Bend and other lathes where they
have a primary and secondary belt with multiple speed choices on both belts.

JWE
Long Beach, CA


Jan 11, 2011 03:47:58 PM, mlathemods@yahoogroups.com wrote:


Gents,

about to start building a new motor mount for my taig lathe.

I want to have a way to unload the belt (to slacken it  so it doesn't stretch
unnecessarily, and also to to allow me to turn the spindle without the motor
generating (I'm using a DC motor for drive in the next iteration of my Taig)

Has anyone got some good designs or plans for a mount?

current plan is two angle irons with some 10mm rod between them (bench set),
then two more angles riding on/in the rods (motor set) with a screw adjuster to
drive the motor set relative to the bench set. A plate will be bolted to the
motor set to secure the motor, and allow adjustment at right angle to the
rods/thread. - A cam/ramp mechanism will be  introduced into the  thrust
collar/locating  area of the threaded rod to provide a "lever actuated
unloading" mechanism.

If someone has a better design, or can spot faults in the above design, please
let  me know..


the motor is fairly light, so my previous design which used a hinge and the
motor weight for tension won't work unless I spring load it - not as easy with
the new lathe stand.

Thanks,
Des
Oz

#3668

From: "MERTON B BAKER" <mertbaker@...>
Date: Wed Jan 12, 2011 12:01 am
Subject: RE: motor mount suggestions for bench lathe

mert.baker

How about a hinged toggle. No spring. just move the lever to unload the belt.

Mert

-----Original Message-----
From: mlathemods@yahoogroups.com [mailto:mlathemods@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of Des Bromilow
Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2011 6:48 PM
To: mlathemods@yahoogroups.com; mlprojects@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [mlathemods] motor mount suggestions for bench lathe

Gents,

about to start building a new motor mount for my taig lathe.

I want to have a way to unload the belt (to slacken it so it doesn't stretch unnecessarily, and also to to allow me to turn the spindle without the motor generating (I'm using a DC motor for drive in the next iteration of my Taig)

Has anyone got some good designs or plans for a mount?

current plan is two angle irons with some 10mm rod between them (bench set), then two more angles riding on/in the rods (motor set) with a screw adjuster to drive the motor set relative to the bench set. A plate will be bolted to the motor set to secure the motor, and allow adjustment at right angle to the rods/thread. - A cam/ramp mechanism will be introduced into the thrust collar/locating area of the threaded rod to provide a "lever actuated unloading" mechanism.

If someone has a better design, or can spot faults in the above design, please let me know..

the motor is fairly light, so my previous design which used a hinge and the motor weight for tension won't work unless I spring load it - not as easy with the new lathe stand.

Thanks,
Des
Oz

#3669

From: Des Bromilow <desbromilow@...>
Date: Wed Jan 12, 2011 12:36 am
Subject: Re: motor mount suggestions for bench lathe

desbromilow

JWE,

my current setup has a jackshaft because of the fixed speed motor - the new setup will have the variable speed DC drive motor (electric scooter motor), and I'm building in a backgear setup as well - the back gears will be the phase 2 modifications, along with gearing to the leadscrew (installed in phase 1 mods)

I'll be finishing the lathe stand and drawers today, then commencing the motor mount tomorrow - once I can re-power the lathe on the new stand I' can commence cutting the gearing and other parts for the phase 2 mods.
All will be documented on the web.

Des

--- On Wed, 12/1/11, James Early <jwearly1@...> wrote:

From: James Early <jwearly1@...>
Subject: Re: [mlathemods] motor mount suggestions for bench lathe
To: mlathemods@yahoogroups.com
Received: Wednesday, 12 January, 2011, 10:56 AM

As I remember from my Taig years ago the other point I always wanted was the ability for a lower speed for hard materials as well. Have you ever looked at a countershaft system like is used on the South Bend and other lathes where they have a primary and secondary belt with multiple speed choices on both belts.

JWE
Long Beach, CA

Jan 11, 2011 03:47:58 PM, mlathemods@yahoogroups.com wrote:

Gents,

about to start building a new motor mount for my taig lathe.

I want to have a way to unload the belt (to slacken it so it doesn't stretch unnecessarily, and also to to allow me to turn the spindle without the motor generating (I'm using a DC motor for drive in the next iteration of my Taig)

Has anyone got some good designs or plans for a mount?

current plan is two angle irons with some 10mm rod between them (bench set), then two more angles riding on/in the rods (motor set) with a screw adjuster to drive the motor set relative to the bench set. A plate will be bolted to the motor set to secure the motor, and allow adjustment at right angle to the rods/thread. - A cam/ramp mechanism will be introduced into the thrust collar/locating area of the threaded rod to provide a "lever actuated unloading" mechanism.

If someone has a better design, or can spot faults in the above design, please let me know..

the motor is fairly light, so my previous design which used a hinge and the motor weight for tension won't work unless I spring load it - not as easy with the new lathe stand.

Thanks,
Des
Oz

#3670

From: "Tony Smith" <ajsmith1968@...>
Date: Wed Jan 12, 2011 10:00 am
Subject: RE:

dropcat2001

I figured all the liberals had died out, or you’d found a prescription that worked.

Probably just the holiday season though.

Tony

From: mlathemods@yahoogroups.com [mailto:mlathemods@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of James Early
Sent: Wednesday, 12 January 2011 5:07 AM
To: mlathemods@yahoogroups.com
Cc: mlprojects@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [mlathemods]

JWE
Long Beach, CA

#3671

From: "orgionalhasbeen" <143redbird@...>
Date: Sun Jan 16, 2011 5:25 pm
Subject: message #3622 adding 2 cents worth

orgionalhasbeen

i think it was in the movie "2001" where one ape picked up a club and
bashed another ape's head in.
to me, what this indicates is that there are the aggressive "things", be it
animals or man, who will always try to dominate the weaker.
that being said i can also build a steel box to secure my weapon, making it so
secure that the weapon will be destroyed by someone stealing it. while in the
steel box the gun will never hurt or kill
anybody.
all this means is, to me anyway, is weapons(guns) do not kill people.
people with guns kill people. people with clubs kill people, apes with clubs
kill apes.
those of us who are not mean spirited or evil but know these "things" are out
there all around us would be smart to be prepared.
the argument that no one needs a gun is made by those who are naive at best.
stupid or media possessed is more likely.
if this is your position i would urge you to do research on your own concerning
the decreased crime where concealed carry is allowed. while researching, check
on "gunfights" started by concealed carry people.
the bottom line is not all of us are chuck norris and can disarm and defeat an
assailant with our bare hands.
i have a concealed carry permit and am always armed when i leave my home. i am
trained to defend myself. i pray to God i will never have to draw my weapon and
us it. but.........

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#3672

From: James Early <jwearly1@...>
Date: Sun Jan 16, 2011 5:53 pm
Subject: Re: message #3622 adding 2 cents worth

j.w.early...

This is generally true. All gun prohibition laws are most strongly supported and
promoted by the more liberal minded criminal types who commit most of the
crimes. Why do they do this, it makes it much less likely that the merchant they
intend to rob or the woman they intend to rape will be able to defend themselves
by shooting the criminal. So it is true all laws making it difficult for honest
citizens to own guns make crime more likely and civilian deaths through crime
more likely!

At the same time I must say I have not owned a gun of any kind for more than 30
years as every case where I might have needed to use one I was able to deal with
the armed individual without a weapon on my part. But then again I had good
unarmed combat training when I was in the Navy which most people never get even
in the service because I was on a landing party combat team similar to light
duty assault teams!


JWE
Long Beach, CA


Jan 16, 2011 09:38:42 AM, mlathemods@yahoogroups.com wrote:


i think it was in the movie "2001" where one ape picked up a club and
bashed another ape's head in.
to me, what this indicates is that there are the aggressive "things", be it
animals or man, who will always try to dominate the weaker.
that being said i can also build a steel box to secure my weapon, making it so
secure that the weapon will be destroyed by someone stealing it. while in the
steel box the gun will never hurt or kill
anybody.
all this means is, to me anyway, is weapons(guns) do not kill people.
people with guns kill people. people with clubs kill people, apes with clubs
kill apes.
those of us who are not mean spirited or evil but know these "things" are out
there all around us would be smart to be prepared.
the argument that no one needs a gun is made by those who are naive at best.
stupid or media possessed is more likely.
if this is your position i would urge you to do research on your own concerning
the decreased crime where concealed carry is allowed. while researching, check
on "gunfights" started by concealed carry people.
the bottom line is not all of us are chuck norris and can disarm and defeat an
assailant with our bare hands.
i have a concealed carry permit and am always armed when i leave my home. i am
trained to defend myself. i pray to God i will never have to draw my weapon and
us it. but.........

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#3673

From: Matthew Tinker <mattinker@...>
Date: Sun Jan 16, 2011 8:24 pm
Subject: Re: message #3622 adding 2 cents worth

mattinker

I hope you don't believe everything you see in the movies!

regards, Matthew

Matthew TINKER
CNC conversion 1944 Colchester Lathe build-up log
http://www.cnczone.com/forums/showthread.php?t=35519

--- On Sun, 16/1/11, orgionalhasbeen <143redbird@...> wrote:

From: orgionalhasbeen <143redbird@...>
Subject: [mlathemods] message #3622 adding 2 cents worth
To: mlathemods@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sunday, 16 January, 2011, 18:25

i think it was in the movie "2001" where one ape picked up a club and
bashed another ape's head in.
to me, what this indicates is that there are the aggressive "things", be it animals or man, who will always try to dominate the weaker.
that being said i can also build a steel box to secure my weapon, making it so secure that the weapon will be destroyed by someone stealing it. while in the steel box the gun will never hurt or kill
anybody.
all this means is, to me anyway, is weapons(guns) do not kill people.
people with guns kill people. people with clubs kill people, apes with clubs kill apes.
those of us who are not mean spirited or evil but know these "things" are out there all around us would be smart to be prepared.
the argument that no one needs a gun is made by those who are naive at best. stupid or media possessed is more likely.
if this is your position i would urge you to do research on your own concerning the decreased crime where concealed carry is allowed. while researching, check on "gunfights" started by concealed carry people.
the bottom line is not all of us are chuck norris and can disarm and defeat an assailant with our bare hands.
i have a concealed carry permit and am always armed when i leave my home. i am trained to defend myself. i pray to God i will never have to draw my weapon and us it. but.........

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#3674

From: OneBike2Ride <steelchipper@...>
Date: Tue Jan 25, 2011 2:14 am
Subject: Revetec Engine

onebike2ride

No crankshaft. See the Revetec Engine: http://www.revetec.com/development.htm

I just thought this was interesting.

Cheers,
John Z.

#3675

From: Bill Williams <BWMSBLDR@...>
Date: Tue Jan 25, 2011 3:29 am
Subject: Re: Revetec Engine

bwmsbldr

OneBike2Ride wrote:
>
> No crankshaft. See the Revetec Engine:
> http://www.revetec.com/development.htm
>
>
>  I just thought this was interesting.
>
>  Cheers,
>  John Z.

	 Interesting variant on that theme. Check out the Hessman "Barrel"
engine from the 30's that had a swashplate on the shaft and slipper
followers. This avoids the issue of transmitting combustion shock loads
through roller bearings!  Bill in Boulder

#3676

From: OneBike2Ride <steelchipper@...>
Date: Tue Feb 1, 2011 7:37 am
Subject: Tools never die. A challenge for you to disprove..?

onebike2ride

I posted this over on the TechLathe group to be sure more people see it. If you belong to both groups, simply choose which post to ignore. :-) If you read the following and believe you DO know of some legitimate tools and/or technology that are absolutely gone forever from anywhere on the face of the earth, by all means click the title link, scroll to the bottom of their page and add your comments with your information. (Conversely, you may want to check their article a few times over the next few days to see later user comments, and look for tools posted by users as "extinct" that you know are still in use somewhere.) Tools Never Die. Waddaya mean, Never? 12:07 am. February 1, 2011 by Robert Krulwich Kevin Kelly should know better, but boldly, brassily, (and totally incorrectly, I'm sure), he said this on NPR: "I say there is no species of technology that have ever gone globally extinct on this planet." What does that mean? I asked him. (Kevin, among other things, is founding editor of Wired Magazine and runs a very popular blog, called Cool Tools , that reviews new gadgets.) That means, he said, "I can't find any [invention, tool, technology] that has disappeared completely from Earth." Nothing? I asked. Brass helmets? Detachable shirt collars? Chariot wheels? Nothing, he said.
Skyhorse Publishing	Can't be, I told him. Tools do hang around, but some must go extinct. If only because of the hubris — the absolute nature of the claim — I told him it would take me a half hour to find a tool, an invention that is no longer being made anywhere by anybody. Go ahead, he said. Try. If you listen to our Morning Edition debate, I tried carbon paper (still being made), steam powered car engine parts (still being made), Paleolithic hammers (still being made), 6 pages of
Agriculture tools from the 1895 Montgomery Ward & Co. catalogue	agricultural tools from an 1895 Montgomery Ward & Co. Catalogue (every one of them still being made), and to my utter astonishment, I couldn't find a provable example of an technology that has disappeared completely. And Kevin continues to insist he is right. In his new book What Technology Wants , he says: A close examination of a supposedly extinct bygone technology almost always shows that somewhere on the planet someone is still producing it. A technique or artifact may be rare in the modern urban world but quite common in the developing rural world. For instance, Burma is full of oxcart technology; basketry is ubiquitous in most of Africa; hand spinning is still thriving in Bolivia. A supposedly dead technology may be enthusiastically embraced by a heritage-based minority in modern society, if only for ritual satisfaction. Consider the traditional ways of the Amish, or modern tribal communities or fanatical vinyl record collectors. Often old technology is obsolete, that is, it is not very ubiquitous or is second rate, but it still may be in small-time use.
I know Kevin's wrong. There have to be prominent exceptions to his Technologies Never Die claim. Problem is, I'm the wrong person to prove him wrong. I'm just not tool-wise. Pens instantly dry up when I touch them, computers — don't even ask. So what I'm wondering is: Can you help me here? Help Me! If you honestly think there is a tool or invention from any century, any culture, any time (no science fiction please, we are trying to be real here) that has gone completely extinct, please send it in. Just mention the tool in the "comment" section. We will publish the most promising ones in the next Krulwich Wonders... blogpost, which we're calling "Am I Extinct?" When you go to that post and see the alphabetical listing of purportedly extinct human inventions, if you see a tool or machine on that list that you know or think is still being made somewhere today, please please, write and tell us. We will post your claims of extinction and your counterclaims together. We will keep this post open a couple of days and if, collectively, we come up with a list of plausibly extinct technologies, it's back to Kevin for Round Two of this colloquy. I know I can count on you people. You always bite me when I say something wrong. Now it's time to bite Kevin. Kevin Kelly's new book is called What Technology Wants, (Viking, 2010); He and I and the writer Steven Johnson debated some of these issues at the New York Public Library in October, 2010. That debate is on video . A different, edited version that focuses on Kevin and Steven's ideas about how technology evolves (and, says Kevin, has a primitive "will") appeared on a Radiolab podcast http://www.npr.org/blogs/krulwich/2011/02/01/133188723/tools-never-die-waddaya-mean-never?ft=1&f=1007

#3677

From: OneBike2Ride <steelchipper@...>
Date: Thu Feb 10, 2011 4:51 pm
Subject: OT: Honesty so rare its almost shocking...

onebike2ride

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/02/08/science/08tier.html

Its been pretty dead around here, so here's something rare for the U.S. media to publish:
- - - -
A few past and present failings of elitist liberal group-think are openly discussed and explored, this time exposed by... liberals?! Since this frank examination is exceedingly unlikely to receive much attention in our likewise heavily biased media, I thought I'd better post this NYT article in it's entirety before it quickly & quietly disappears...!

Social Scientist Sees Bias Within

By JOHN TIERNEY

Published: February 7, 2011

SAN ANTONIO — Some of the world’s pre-eminent experts on bias discovered an unexpected form of it at their annual meeting.

Discrimination is always high on the agenda at the Society for Personality and Social Psychology’s conference, where psychologists discuss their research on racial prejudice, homophobia, sexism, stereotype threat and unconscious bias against minorities. But the most talked-about speech at this year’s meeting, which ended Jan. 30, involved a new “outgroup.”

It was identified by Jonathan Haidt , a social psychologist at the University of Virginia who studies the intuitive foundations of morality and ideology. He polled his audience at the San Antonio Convention Center, starting by asking how many considered themselves politically liberal. A sea of hands appeared, and Dr. Haidt estimated that liberals made up 80 percent of the 1,000 psychologists in the ballroom. When he asked for centrists and libertarians, he spotted fewer than three dozen hands. And then, when he asked for conservatives, he counted a grand total of three.

“This is a statistically impossible lack of diversity,” Dr. Haidt concluded, noting polls showing that 40 percent of Americans are conservative and 20 percent are liberal. In his speech and in an interview, Dr. Haidt argued that social psychologists are a “tribal-moral community” united by “sacred values” that hinder research and damage their credibility — and blind them to the hostile climate they’ve created for non-liberals.

“Anywhere in the world that social psychologists see women or minorities underrepresented by a factor of two or three, our minds jump to discrimination as the explanation,” said Dr. Haidt, who called himself a longtime liberal turned centrist. “But when we find out that conservatives are underrepresented among us by a factor of more than 100, suddenly everyone finds it quite easy to generate alternate explanations.”

Dr. Haidt (pronounced height) told the audience that he had been corresponding with a couple of non-liberal graduate students in social psychology whose experiences reminded him of closeted gay students in the 1980s. He quoted — anonymously — from their e-mails describing how they hid their feelings when colleagues made political small talk and jokes predicated on the assumption that everyone was a liberal.

“I consider myself very middle-of-the-road politically: a social liberal but fiscal conservative. Nonetheless, I avoid the topic of politics around work,” one student wrote. “Given what I’ve read of the literature, I am certain any research I conducted in political psychology would provide contrary findings and, therefore, go unpublished. Although I think I could make a substantial contribution to the knowledge base, and would be excited to do so, I will not.”

The politics of the professoriate has been studied by the economists Christopher Cardiff and Daniel Klein and the sociologists Neil Gross and Solon Simmons. They’ve independently found that Democrats typically outnumber Republicans at elite universities by at least six to one among the general faculty, and by higher ratios in the humanities and social sciences. In a 2007 study of both elite and non-elite universities, Dr. Gross and Dr. Simmons reported that nearly 80 percent of psychology professors are Democrats, outnumbering Republicans by nearly 12 to 1.

The fields of psychology, sociology and anthropology have long attracted liberals, but they became more exclusive after the 1960s, according to Dr. Haidt. “The fight for civil rights and against racism became the sacred cause unifying the left throughout American society, and within the academy,” he said, arguing that this shared morality both “binds and blinds.”

“If a group circles around sacred values, they will evolve into a tribal-moral community,” he said. “They’ll embrace science whenever it supports their sacred values, but they’ll ditch it or distort it as soon as it threatens a sacred value.” It’s easy for social scientists to observe this process in other communities, like the fundamentalist Christians who embrace “intelligent design” while rejecting Darwinism. But academics can be selective, too, as Daniel Patrick Moynihan found in 1965 when he warned about the rise of unmarried parenthood and welfare dependency among blacks — violating the taboo against criticizing victims of racism.

“Moynihan was shunned by many of his colleagues at Harvard as racist,” Dr. Haidt said. “Open-minded inquiry into the problems of the black family was shut down for decades, precisely the decades in which it was most urgently needed. Only in the last few years have liberal sociologists begun to acknowledge that Moynihan was right all along.”

Similarly, Larry Summers , then president of Harvard, was ostracized in 2005 for wondering publicly whether the preponderance of male professors in some top math and science departments might be due partly to the larger variance in I.Q. scores among men (meaning there are more men at the very high and very low ends). “This was not a permissible hypothesis,” Dr. Haidt said. “It blamed the victims rather than the powerful. The outrage ultimately led to his resignation. We psychologists should have been outraged by the outrage. We should have defended his right to think freely.”

Instead, the taboo against discussing sex differences was reinforced, so universities and the National Science Foundation went on spending tens of millions of dollars on research and programs based on the assumption that female scientists faced discrimination and various forms of unconscious bias. But that assumption has been repeatedly contradicted, most recently in a study published Monday in The Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences by two Cornell psychologists, Stephen J. Ceci and Wendy M. Williams. After reviewing two decades of research, they report that a woman in academic science typically fares as well as, if not better than, a comparable man when it comes to being interviewed, hired, promoted, financed and published.

“Thus,” they conclude, “the ongoing focus on sex discrimination in reviewing, interviewing and hiring represents costly, misplaced effort. Society is engaged in the present in solving problems of the past.” Instead of presuming discrimination in science or expecting the sexes to show equal interest in every discipline, the Cornell researchers say, universities should make it easier for women in any field to combine scholarship with family responsibilities.

Can social scientists open up to outsiders’ ideas? Dr. Haidt was optimistic enough to title his speech “The Bright Future of Post-Partisan Social Psychology,” urging his colleagues to focus on shared science rather than shared moral values. To overcome taboos, he advised them to subscribe to National Review and to read Thomas Sowell’s “A Conflict of Visions.”

For a tribal-moral community, the social psychologists in Dr. Haidt’s audience seemed refreshingly receptive to his argument. Some said he overstated how liberal the field is, but many agreed it should welcome more ideological diversity. A few even endorsed his call for a new affirmative-action goal: a membership that’s 10 percent conservative by 2020. The society’s executive committee didn’t endorse Dr. Haidt’s numerical goal, but it did vote to put a statement on the group’s home page welcoming psychologists with “diverse perspectives.” It also made a change on the “Diversity Initiatives” page — a two-letter correction of what it called a grammatical glitch, although others might see it as more of a Freudian slip.

In the old version, the society announced that special funds to pay for travel to the annual meeting were available to students belonging to “underrepresented groups (i.e., ethnic or racial minorities, first-generation college students, individuals with a physical disability, and/or lesbian, gay, bisexual, or transgendered students).”

As Dr. Haidt noted in his speech, the “i.e.” implied that this was the exclusive, sacred list of “underrepresented groups.” The society took his suggestion to substitute “e.g.” — a change that leaves it open to other groups, too. Maybe, someday, even to conservatives.

This article has been revised to reflect the following correction:

Correction: February 10, 2011

Because of an editing error, the Findings column on Tuesday, about political bias among social scientists, omitted the last four words of a sentence that countered the notion that female scientists face discrimination and various forms of unconscious bias. The sentence should have read: But that assumption has been repeatedly contradicted, most recently in a study published Monday in The Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences by two Cornell psychologists, Stephen J. Ceci and Wendy M. Williams.

A version of this article appeared in print on February 8, 2011, on page D1 of the New York edition.

#3678

From: "Jim E." <jim0000@...>
Date: Wed Mar 2, 2011 2:54 pm
Subject: Current Enco Shipping Codes...

tbn501s

FYI, FSCMAR is now good and gets you free shipping on orders over $25.
Don't know the status of FSCJAN & FSCFEB.

                     Graciously,
                       Jim E.
                   Lakewood, Calif.
                All Hail Rube Goldberg!

#3679

From: Steven Prescott <prescott.steven@...>
Date: Wed Apr 13, 2011 12:02 am
Subject: An Introduction to the Wood Lathe Chuck

prescott.ste...

A wood lathe chuck can be an excellent addition to any wood lathe. A chuck allows one to turn smaller pieces of wood with a high degree of flexibility while avoiding the inconvenience supporting the wood with the tailstock.
Many people use wood lathe chucks for smaller projects. They are an absolutely necessary tool for anyone who would like to turn wooden bowls or similar items.
You can choose your wood lathe chuck from two different options. Three-jaw chucks center the wood in the lathe automatically and are well suited for symmetrical projects. That is because these chucks basically immobilize the wood, which means all rounding will be toward the true center of the wood. These are the lathe chucks with which most woodworkers first experiment. They produce great results, even though they are somewhat limited in what they can do.
A four-jaw wood lathe chuck offers more flexibility. These chucks allow the lathe user to move the wood during the turning process. This allows the operator to create rounded pieces that are not necessarily symmetrical or centered. These chucks are ideal for those who are handling very specialized aspects of custom projects and for artists who do not want to find themselves limited any more than necessary.
Suppliers provide three-jaw and four-jaw chucks in multiple sizes. A jewelry maker may find himself using a tiny, one-inch chuck. Meanwhile, a turner of a large wooden bowl may work with a chuck with a full two-foot diameter! There is a chuck for every project and every preference.
Your choice of a chuck size must be governed by two factors: the size of the lathe upon which the chuck will be used and the size of the wood pieces you plan to turn. Before you purchase a wood lathe chuck, double check your lathe's capacity and determine the chuck's intended use. That will help you to secure the right tool for your specific needs.
Lathe chucks can produce some amazing effects. Any lathe-using woodworker will be able to find a number of uses for these tools.
At the same time, it is important to note that these devices are best managed by experienced lathe users. That is particularly true of the manually manipulate four-jaw chuck. Additionally, numerous accidents occur when chucks become stuck. Anyone using a wood lathe chuck should make safety a top priority and should know the proper procedure for handling a stuck chuck.
source : http://serdal-b.blogspot.com
article : http://serdal-b.blogspot.com/2011/04/introduction-to-wood-lathe-chuck.html

#3680

From: "oldstudentmsgt" <wmrmeyers@...>
Date: Thu Apr 14, 2011 11:29 am
Subject: Re: An Introduction to the Wood Lathe Chuck

oldstudentmsgt

do you intend to post this to every metalworking group on Yahoo? If so, why
bother? I've seen it, I think, 8 or 9 times now. I read it once, and for anyone
who has a wood lathe, and no chuck, it's probably a useful thing to know, but
most folks with metalworking lathes have at least one chuck, already, and
frequently more than that. I've got very little tooling for my lathe, but I do
own the stock 3" 3-jaw, and a 5" 4-jaw independent jaw chuck. And plan on a
collet chuck, too, one of these days.

If you're just trying to get some of the less active groups started talking
again, I guess that makes sense, so for it!

Bill in OKC
--- In mlathemods@yahoogroups.com, Steven Prescott <prescott.steven@...> wrote:
>
> A wood lathe chuck can be an excellent addition to any wood lathe. A   chuck
> allows one to turn smaller pieces of wood with a high degree of   flexibility
> while avoiding the inconvenience supporting the wood with   the tailstock.
> Many people use wood lathe chucks for smaller  projects. They are an 
absolutely
> necessary tool for anyone who would  like to turn wooden  bowls or similar
> items.
> You can choose your  wood lathe chuck from two different options.  Three-jaw
> chucks center the  wood in the lathe automatically and are  well suited for
> symmetrical  projects. That is because these chucks  basically immobilize the
> wood,  which means all rounding will be toward  the true center of the wood.
> These are the lathe chucks with which most  woodworkers first experiment. 
They
> produce great results, even though  they are somewhat limited in  what they
can
> do.
> A four-jaw wood lathe chuck offers more  flexibility. These chucks allow  the
> lathe user to move the wood during  the turning process. This  allows the
> operator to create rounded pieces  that are not necessarily  symmetrical or
> centered. These chucks are ideal  for those who are  handling very specialized
> aspects of custom projects  and for artists  who do not want to find
themselves
> limited any more than  necessary.
> Suppliers provide three-jaw and four-jaw chucks in  multiple sizes. A  jewelry
> maker may find himself using a tiny, one-inch  chuck. Meanwhile,  a turner of
a
> large wooden bowl may work with a chuck  with a full  two-foot diameter! There
> is a chuck for every project and  every  preference.
> Your choice of a chuck size must be governed by  two factors: the size  of the
> lathe upon which the chuck will be used and  the size of the wood  pieces you
> plan to turn. Before you purchase a  wood lathe chuck,  double check your
> lathe's capacity and determine the  chuck's intended  use. That will help you
to
> secure the right tool for  your specific  needs.
> Lathe chucks can produce some amazing  effects. Any lathe-using  woodworker
will
> be able to find a number of  uses for these tools.
> At the same time, it is important to note  that these devices are best 
managed
> by experienced lathe users. That is  particularly true of the  manually
> manipulate four-jaw chuck.  Additionally, numerous accidents  occur when
chucks
> become stuck. Anyone  using a wood lathe chuck should  make safety a top
> priority and should  know the proper procedure for  handling a stuck chuck.
> source : http://serdal-b.blogspot.com
> article :
> http://serdal-b.blogspot.com/2011/04/introduction-to-wood-lathe-chuck.html
>

#3681

From: keith gutshall <drpshops@...>
Date: Thu Apr 14, 2011 1:41 pm
Subject: Re: Re: An Introduction to the Wood Lathe Chuck

drpshops

Hi Bill

I think this guy is talking trash about chucks.

Most wood working chucks are a 4 jaw scroll type chuck.

I am like you, why is he talking about woodworking on a

metalworking group?

Keith

Deep Run Portage
Back Shop
" The Lizard Works"

--- On Thu, 4/14/11, oldstudentmsgt <wmrmeyers@...> wrote:

From: oldstudentmsgt <wmrmeyers@...>
Subject: [mlathemods] Re: An Introduction to the Wood Lathe Chuck
To: mlathemods@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thursday, April 14, 2011, 6:29 AM

do you intend to post this to every metalworking group on Yahoo? If so, why bother? I've seen it, I think, 8 or 9 times now. I read it once, and for anyone who has a wood lathe, and no chuck, it's probably a useful thing to know, but most folks with metalworking lathes have at least one chuck, already, and frequently more than that. I've got very little tooling for my lathe, but I do own the stock 3" 3-jaw, and a 5" 4-jaw independent jaw chuck. And plan on a collet chuck, too, one of these days.

If you're just trying to get some of the less active groups started talking again, I guess that makes sense, so for it!

Bill in OKC
--- In mlathemods@yahoogroups.com, Steven Prescott <prescott.steven@...> wrote:
>
> A wood lathe chuck can be an excellent addition to any wood lathe. A chuck
> allows one to turn smaller pieces of wood with a high degree of flexibility
> while avoiding the inconvenience supporting the wood with the tailstock.
> Many people use wood lathe chucks for smaller projects. They are an absolutely
> necessary tool for anyone who would like to turn wooden bowls or similar
> items.
> You can choose your wood lathe chuck from two different options. Three-jaw
> chucks center the wood in the lathe automatically and are well suited for
> symmetrical projects. That is because these chucks basically immobilize the
> wood, which means all rounding will be toward the true center of the wood.
> These are the lathe chucks with which most woodworkers first experiment. They
> produce great results, even though they are somewhat limited in what they can
> do.
> A four-jaw wood lathe chuck offers more flexibility. These chucks allow the
> lathe user to move the wood during the turning process. This allows the
> operator to create rounded pieces that are not necessarily symmetrical or
> centered. These chucks are ideal for those who are handling very specialized
> aspects of custom projects and for artists who do not want to find themselves
> limited any more than necessary.
> Suppliers provide three-jaw and four-jaw chucks in multiple sizes. A jewelry
> maker may find himself using a tiny, one-inch chuck. Meanwhile, a turner of a
> large wooden bowl may work with a chuck with a full two-foot diameter! There
> is a chuck for every project and every preference.
> Your choice of a chuck size must be governed by two factors: the size of the
> lathe upon which the chuck will be used and the size of the wood pieces you
> plan to turn. Before you purchase a wood lathe chuck, double check your
> lathe's capacity and determine the chuck's intended use. That will help you to
> secure the right tool for your specific needs.
> Lathe chucks can produce some amazing effects. Any lathe-using woodworker will
> be able to find a number of uses for these tools.
> At the same time, it is important to note that these devices are best managed
> by experienced lathe users. That is particularly true of the manually
> manipulate four-jaw chuck. Additionally, numerous accidents occur when chucks
> become stuck. Anyone using a wood lathe chuck should make safety a top
> priority and should know the proper procedure for handling a stuck chuck.
> source : http://serdal-b.blogspot.com
> article :
> http://serdal-b.blogspot.com/2011/04/introduction-to-wood-lathe-chuck.html
>

#3682

From: "Tony Smith" <ajsmith1968@...>
Date: Sun Apr 17, 2011 4:53 pm
Subject: RE: Re: An Introduction to the Wood Lathe Chuck

dropcat2001

He’s spamming his website / blog.

You’ll find it’ll be chock full of ads, probably for drugs or Rolex watches. He might be genuinely try to stir up interest, but I’m not interested enough to go and see.

Tony

Hi Bill

I think this guy is talking trash about chucks.

Most wood working chucks are a 4 jaw scroll type chuck.

I am like you, why is he talking about woodworking on a

metalworking group?

Keith

Deep Run Portage
Back Shop
" The Lizard Works"

--- On Thu, 4/14/11, oldstudentmsgt <wmrmeyers@...> wrote:

From: oldstudentmsgt <wmrmeyers@...>
Subject: [mlathemods] Re: An Introduction to the Wood Lathe Chuck
To: mlathemods@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thursday, April 14, 2011, 6:29 AM

do you intend to post this to every metalworking group on Yahoo? If so, why bother? I've seen it, I think, 8 or 9 times now. I read it once, and for anyone who has a wood lathe, and no chuck, it's probably a useful thing to know, but most folks with metalworking lathes have at least one chuck, already, and frequently more than that. I've got very little tooling for my lathe, but I do own the stock 3" 3-jaw, and a 5" 4-jaw independent jaw chuck. And plan on a collet chuck, too, one of these days.

If you're just trying to get some of the less active groups started talking again, I guess that makes sense, so for it!

Bill in OKC
--- In mlathemods@yahoogroups.com, Steven Prescott <prescott.steven@...> wrote:
>
> A wood lathe chuck can be an excellent addition to any wood lathe. A chuck

>

,_._,___

#3683

From: "oldstudentmsgt" <wmrmeyers@...>
Date: Mon Apr 18, 2011 10:15 am
Subject: Re: An Introduction to the Wood Lathe Chuck

oldstudentmsgt

I think "pimping" his website is more like it. If his writeup had been very
interesting, I might have given him the web hit. Unfortunately, it's like is
seen in every elementary woodlathe book in the library. "It's good and useful,
you should get one!"


Bill in OKC

--- In mlathemods@yahoogroups.com, "Tony Smith" <ajsmith1968@...> wrote:
>
> He’s spamming his website / blog.
>
>
>
> You’ll find it’ll be chock full of ads, probably for drugs or Rolex
watches.  He might be genuinely try to stir up interest, but I’m not
interested enough to go and see.
>
>
>
> Tony
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Hi Bill
>
>  I think this guy is talking trash about chucks.
>
>  Most wood working chucks are a 4 jaw scroll type chuck.
>
>  I am like you, why is he talking about woodworking on a
>
> metalworking group?
>
>
>
>  Keith
>
> Deep Run Portage
> Back Shop
> " The Lizard Works"
>
> --- On Thu, 4/14/11, oldstudentmsgt <wmrmeyers@...> wrote:
>
>
> From: oldstudentmsgt <wmrmeyers@...>
> Subject: [mlathemods] Re: An Introduction to the Wood Lathe Chuck
> To: mlathemods@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Thursday, April 14, 2011, 6:29 AM
>
>
>
> do you intend to post this to every metalworking group on Yahoo? If so, why
bother? I've seen it, I think, 8 or 9 times now. I read it once, and for anyone
who has a wood lathe, and no chuck, it's probably a useful thing to know, but
most folks with metalworking lathes have at least one chuck, already, and
frequently more than that. I've got very little tooling for my lathe, but I do
own the stock 3" 3-jaw, and a 5" 4-jaw independent jaw chuck. And plan on a
collet chuck, too, one of these days.
>
> If you're just trying to get some of the less active groups started talking
again, I guess that makes sense, so for it!
>
> Bill in OKC
> --- In mlathemods@yahoogroups.com
<http://us.mc328.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=mlathemods%40yahoogroups.com> ,
Steven Prescott <prescott.steven@> wrote:
> >
> > A wood lathe chuck can be an excellent addition to any wood lathe. A chuck
>
> >
>
>
> ,_._,___
>

#3684

From: "Tony Smith" <ajsmith1968@...>
Date: Tue Apr 19, 2011 1:25 am
Subject: RE: Re: An Introduction to the Wood Lathe Chuck

dropcat2001

> I think "pimping" his website is more like it. If his writeup had been
> very interesting, I might have given him the web hit. Unfortunately,
> it's like is seen in every elementary woodlathe book in the library.
> "It's good and useful, you should get one!"


I went and had a look, it's just something he's copied from somewhere else.
His 'blog' has an entire 6 posts, (all added in about 10 minutes), the other
one in the wood category is about wood ticks!  I suppose you could put one
in a 4-jaw chuck, that'd kill it I guess.

I use FireFox with AdBlock & NoScript, so I can't tell you what ads or
malware was there.

Wood lathe 4-jaw chucks are interesting, but not that much use on a metal
lathe.  They're usually scroll (self-centering) but their main attraction is
the jaw attachments, lots of odd shapes for holding bowls etc.

One day the scammers will find real jobs.  (I can dream...)

Tony

#3685

From: OneBike2Ride <steelchipper@...>
Date: Sat Apr 23, 2011 8:50 pm
Subject: OT: Devil's Rope

onebike2ride

Full Profile E-mail Amanda Kooser

April 23, 2011 6:02 AM PDT

Devil's Rope: Barbed wire snags Route 66 travelers

by Amanda Kooser

It's like a huge ball of twine, only much more pointy.

(Credit: Amanda Kooser/CNET)

MCLEAN, Texas--Most people don't think twice about barbed wire, unless they happen to be cattle ranchers, farmers, or junkyard owners. You don't have to be any of those to step into the Devil's Rope Museum on Route 66 here in McLean, Texas, and immerse yourself in the history and lore of the pointy fencing material.

I'll admit that at first, I thought the idea of a museum dedicated to barbed wire was pretty weird and possibly a little dull. How many types of barbed wire can there really be? As it turns out, thousands. Some of them have some real personality to them, too. One looks like a series of miniature spurs. Another comes in a cheerful shade of red. Some look like wicked ribbons. Festive, but dangerous.

A pointed look at barbed wire (photos)

One surprise is the level of ingenuity surrounding the cult of barbed wire. Do-it-yourselfers have adapted the material into sculptures, crows have woven it into nests, and inventors have dedicated countless hours to one-upping each other on barbed wire design and technology. Barbed wire should make it onto every serious maker's materials list.

The idea for barbed wire first popped up in the mid-1800s. An endless stream of innovations and adaptions have radiated out ever since. It's not all strings of wire at the Devil's Rope. You can ogle post hole diggers, cattle brands, decorative fence toppers, salesman samples, barbed wire art, and fence-making machines that could double as medieval torture devices.

Related links
• Geek's guide to Route 66, part 1
• Cadillac Ranch: Texas-size lawn ornaments
• Route 66: Build your own giant Blue Whale
• Route 66 Muffler Men: Collect them all

I was seriously considering starting up my own barbed wire collection by the time I made it into the gift shop. Like many offbeat and obsessive hobbies, it can add up. Certain pieces of rare barbed wire fetch hundreds of dollars among collectors.

One thing is certain: I will never look at barbed wire the same way again. Drop me a line if you happen to have a spare 18-inch strand of "Spur Rowel" wire laying around. I need a centerpiece for my collection.

Amanda Kooser

Crave freelancer Amanda C. Kooser lives with a 1956 DeSoto and a Prius and has an original Eee PC stashed away in the closet. She is successfully managing an incurable case of gadget fever. Amanda is a member of the CNET Blog Network and is not an employee of CBS Interactive. E-mail Amanda .

#3686

From: "rjd233" <rjd1974@...>
Date: Mon May 16, 2011 6:50 pm
Subject: Cross Slide Modification

rjd233

Has anyone modified their cross slide by increasing the travel like the
following two links?  Any tips on accomplishing the task would be appreciated. 
Thanks.

http://warhammer.mcc.virginia.edu/ty/7x10/xslidemod.html
http://www.gadgetbuilder.com/CrossSlide.html

Ron

#3687

From: "Jim E." <jim0000@...>
Date: Tue May 17, 2011 3:12 pm
Subject: Re: Cross Slide Modification

tbn501s

I used Gordon Scott's method
<http://warhammer.mcc.virginia.edu/ty/7x10/xslidemod.html> with little
hassle.  At the time, a 7x forum member had a ton o' 2" metric screws
that fit the original holes, so I didn't have to re-tap as others did.

btw:  I have the MicroMark imperial conversion on my cross slide, don't
think that made a difference.

                     Graciously,
                       Jim E.
                   Lakewood, Calif.
                All Hail Rube Goldberg!

rjd233 wrote:
> Has anyone modified their cross slide by increasing the travel like the
following two links?  Any tips on accomplishing the task would be appreciated. 
Thanks.
>
> http://warhammer.mcc.virginia.edu/ty/7x10/xslidemod.html
> http://www.gadgetbuilder.com/CrossSlide.html
>
> Ron
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>
>

#3688

From: OneBike2Ride <steelchipper@...>
Date: Fri Jun 3, 2011 5:05 pm
Subject: OT: DIY Stink Bug Traps

onebike2ride

Make your own stink bug traps out of old soda bottles...

Video:
http://www.wjactv.com/video/28028425/index.html

Cheers,
John Z.
--

“Trying to tax a nation into prosperity is like standing in a bucket and trying to lift yourself by the handles.” - Winston Churchill

#3689

From: "oldstudentmsgt" <wmrmeyers@...>
Date: Sat Jun 4, 2011 6:01 pm
Subject: Re: OT: DIY Stink Bug Traps

oldstudentmsgt

Very cool! John, do you mind if I cross post this to a couple of the prepper
lists I belong to?

Bill in OKC?

--- In mlathemods@yahoogroups.com, OneBike2Ride <steelchipper@...> wrote:
>
>   Make your own stink bug traps out of old soda bottles...
>
>   Video:
> http://www.wjactv.com/video/28028425/index.html
>
>   Cheers,
>   John Z.
> --
> "Trying to tax a nation into prosperity is like standing in a bucket and
> trying to lift yourself by the handles." - Winston Churchill
>

#3690

From: keith gutshall <drpshops@...>
Date: Sat Jun 4, 2011 9:11 pm
Subject: Re: Re: OT: DIY Stink Bug Traps

drpshops

Hi Bill

I wonder if that would work for other types of bugs?I have a few I need to get rid of.

The only problem for me is keeping the kids for playingwith them.

Keith

Deep Run Portage
Back Shop
" The Lizard Works"

From: oldstudentmsgt <wmrmeyers@...>
To: mlathemods@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, June 4, 2011 1:01 PM
Subject: [mlathemods] Re: OT: DIY Stink Bug Traps

Very cool! John, do you mind if I cross post this to a couple of the prepper lists I belong to?

Bill in OKC?

--- In mlathemods@yahoogroups.com, OneBike2Ride <steelchipper@...> wrote:
>
> Make your own stink bug traps out of old soda bottles...
>
> Video:
> http://www.wjactv.com/video/28028425/index.html
>
> Cheers,
> John Z.
> --
> "Trying to tax a nation into prosperity is like standing in a bucket and
> trying to lift yourself by the handles." - Winston Churchill
>

#3691

From: "MERTON B BAKER" <mertbaker@...>
Date: Sat Jun 4, 2011 9:33 pm
Subject: RE: Re: OT: DIY Stink Bug Traps

mert.baker

Wasps. With a Stink bug infestation like those pictured, 3 or 4 of the soda bottle traps should work wonders. What would get wasps interested? where I am, at least at the moment I find maybe one or two stick bugs a week. Not enuf to bother with a trap. Wasps, though, are dumb & heavily armed.

Mert

-----Original Message-----
From: mlathemods@yahoogroups.com [mailto:mlathemods@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of keith gutshall
Sent: Saturday, June 04, 2011 5:11 PM
To: mlathemods@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [mlathemods] Re: OT: DIY Stink Bug Traps

Hi Bill

I wonder if that would work for other types of bugs?I have a few I need to get rid of.

The only problem for me is keeping the kids for playingwith them.

Keith

Deep Run Portage
Back Shop
" The Lizard Works"

From: oldstudentmsgt <wmrmeyers@...>
To: mlathemods@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, June 4, 2011 1:01 PM
Subject: [mlathemods] Re: OT: DIY Stink Bug Traps

Very cool! John, do you mind if I cross post this to a couple of the prepper lists I belong to?

Bill in OKC?

--- In mlathemods@yahoogroups.com, OneBike2Ride <steelchipper@...> wrote:
>
> Make your own stink bug traps out of old soda bottles...
>
> Video:
> http://www.wjactv.com/video/28028425/index.html
>
> Cheers,
> John Z.
> --
> "Trying to tax a nation into prosperity is like standing in a bucket and
> trying to lift yourself by the handles." - Winston Churchill
>

#3692

From: Malcolm Parker-Lisberg <mparkerlisberg@...>
Date: Sat Jun 4, 2011 10:22 pm
Subject: RE: Re: OT: DIY Stink Bug Traps

mparkerlisberg

Mert

For wasps, jam, strawberry, plumb or blackcurrant. For slugs.. stale beer.

Malcolm

I don't suffer from insanity I enjoy it!

--- On Sat, 6/4/11, MERTON B BAKER <mertbaker@...> wrote:

From: MERTON B BAKER <mertbaker@...>
Subject: RE: [mlathemods] Re: OT: DIY Stink Bug Traps
To: mlathemods@yahoogroups.com
Date: Saturday, June 4, 2011, 10:33 PM

Wasps. With a Stink bug infestation like those pictured, 3 or 4 of the soda bottle traps should work wonders. What would get wasps interested? where I am, at least at the moment I find maybe one or two stick bugs a week. Not enuf to bother with a trap. Wasps, though, are dumb & heavily armed.

Mert

-----Original Message-----
From: mlathemods@yahoogroups.com [mailto:mlathemods@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of keith gutshall
Sent: Saturday, June 04, 2011 5:11 PM
To: mlathemods@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [mlathemods] Re: OT: DIY Stink Bug Traps

Hi Bill

I wonder if that would work for other types of bugs?I have a few I need to get rid of.

The only problem for me is keeping the kids for playingwith them.

Keith

Deep Run Portage
Back Shop
" The Lizard Works"

From: oldstudentmsgt <wmrmeyers@...>
To: mlathemods@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, June 4, 2011 1:01 PM
Subject: [mlathemods] Re: OT: DIY Stink Bug Traps

Very cool! John, do you mind if I cross post this to a couple of the prepper lists I belong to?

Bill in OKC?

--- In mlathemods@yahoogroups.com, OneBike2Ride <steelchipper@...> wrote:
>
> Make your own stink bug traps out of old soda bottles...
>
> Video:
> http://www.wjactv.com/video/28028425/index.html
>
> Cheers,
> John Z.
> --
> "Trying to tax a nation into prosperity is like standing in a bucket and
> trying to lift yourself by the handles." - Winston Churchill
>

#3693

From: "Jim" <jhancock1@...>
Date: Sat Jun 4, 2011 11:25 pm
Subject: Re: OT: DIY Stink Bug Traps

kb3icm

Cider vinegar is also a good bait for yellow jackets. Neighbor hangs 1/2 gallon
milk cartons with a cup of vinegar in it in his apple trees. Wasps enter and
can't get out. Usually drown.

--- In mlathemods@yahoogroups.com, Malcolm Parker-Lisberg <mparkerlisberg@...>
wrote:
>
> Mert
>
> For wasps, jam, strawberry, plumb or blackcurrant. For slugs.. stale beer.
>
>
> Malcolm
>
> I don't suffer from insanity I enjoy it!
>
> --- On Sat, 6/4/11, MERTON B BAKER <mertbaker@...> wrote:
>
> From: MERTON B BAKER <mertbaker@...>
> Subject: RE: [mlathemods] Re: OT: DIY Stink Bug Traps
> To: mlathemods@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Saturday, June 4, 2011, 10:33 PM
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>  
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>       
>
>
> Wasps.  With a Stink bug infestation like
> those pictured, 3 or 4 of the soda bottle traps should work wonders.  What
> would get wasps interested?  where I am, at least at the moment I find
> maybe one or two stick bugs a week.  Not enuf to bother with a trap. 
> Wasps, though, are dumb & heavily armed.
>  
> Mert
>  
>
>
>   -----Original Message-----
> From:
>   mlathemods@yahoogroups.com [mailto:mlathemods@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of
>   keith gutshall
> Sent: Saturday, June 04, 2011 5:11
>   PM
> To: mlathemods@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re:
>   [mlathemods] Re: OT: DIY Stink Bug Traps
>
>  
>
>
>
>   Hi Bill
>    I wonder if that would work for other types of bugs?I have a
>   few I need to get rid of.
>    The only problem for me is keeping the kids for playingwith
>   them.
>    
>    Keith
>
>    
>   Deep Run Portage
> Back Shop
> " The Lizard Works"
>
>
>
>   From: oldstudentmsgt
>   <wmrmeyers@...>
> To:
>   mlathemods@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Saturday, June 4, 2011 1:01
>   PM
> Subject: [mlathemods] Re:
>   OT: DIY Stink Bug Traps
>
>
>    
>
>   Very cool! John, do you mind if I cross post this to a couple of the
>   prepper lists I belong to?
>
> Bill in OKC?
>
> --- In mlathemods@yahoogroups.com,
>   OneBike2Ride <steelchipper@> wrote:
> >
> > Make your own
>   stink bug traps out of old soda bottles...
> >
> > Video:
> >
>   http://www.wjactv.com/video/28028425/index.html
> >
> >
>   Cheers,
> > John Z.
> > --
> > "Trying to tax a nation into
>   prosperity is like standing in a bucket and
> > trying to lift yourself
>   by the handles." - Winston
>   Churchill
> >
>

#3694

From: Bill Williams <BWMSBLDR@...>
Date: Sun Jun 5, 2011 12:47 am
Subject: Re: Re: OT: DIY Stink Bug Traps

bwmsbldr

MERTON B BAKER wrote:
> 
>
> Wasps.  With a Stink bug infestation like those pictured, 3 or 4 of the
> soda bottle traps should work wonders.  What would get wasps
> interested?  where I am, at least at the moment I find maybe one or two
> stick bugs a week.  Not enuf to bother with a trap.  Wasps, though, are
> dumb & heavily armed.
>
> Mert

	 Mert, wasps and especially young queens starting out, are attracted
to meat! Bill