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#5554 From: frank lawrence <naturalimages11@...>
Date: Wed Jan 6, 2010 6:56 pm
Subject: January Habitat Herald
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Audubon Chicago Region  
January 2010
Dear Subscriber,

The January 2010 Habitat Herald is ready to read!!
Just click here to view this issue.
And be sure to mark your calendars for a Stewards-Monitors workshop on February 7th and a dinner to celebrate local Conservation Leaders on February 27th.

Wishing you all a wonderful New Year!
The Editors


About the Habitat Project
The greater Chicago area is home to more ecologically engaged citizens than perhaps anywhere else on the planet.  Here, in the midst of everyday life, residents visit nearby nature to observe and record birds, plants and frogs or to help restore degraded habitat.  They are committed to nature and Audubon is committed to them.  In fact, we think that involving local people is the best way to deliver conservation now and into the future.
The Habitat Project was initiated by Audubon Chicago in order to support this culture of citizen conservation.  Audubon-Chicago Region works exclusively on local biodiversity issues, and we raise all the funds for our work ourselves.  Donations from individuals are an important part of our funding, and gifts from our fellow monitors and stewards are always particularly treasured.  If you'd like to join our family of contributors, please click on this link:
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#5553 From: Marielle Anzelone <beachplum@...>
Date: Wed Jan 6, 2010 3:11 am
Subject: Wildflower iPHone app
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Thought this might be of interest...

Marielle
NYC Wildflower Week on Facebook:  http://tiny.cc/eWWRr

Identify Wildflowers in California with new iPhone App

The hills are beginning to green up in Orange County, and wildflower season will soon be upon us. And, as if they planned it that way, Audubon has just released a new iPhone and iPod Touch application that allows users to identify wildflowers anywhere in California.

http://greenoc.freedomblogging.com/2010/01/04/identify-those-wildflowers-via-iphone/18067/


#5552 From: frank lawrence <naturalimages11@...>
Date: Tue Jan 5, 2010 9:22 pm
Subject: Any ideas ?
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I have been leasing land from a local farmer to grow native plants for seed. I have 9 acres at my disposal but have only planted about a quarter acre so far. With the remaining acres I was thinking of building a huge outdoor classroom. My idea is to start a non profit foundation and to get as many schools in the area involved as possible to help secure grants and solicit for corporate donations. There are outdoor environmental learning centers in this area but I want to create a more unique project that will include as much subject matter as possible, be self guided, and provide more interactive displays for children from K-12. I have several ideas but am looking for more suggestions from everyone. Any comments would appreciated.
Frank

We abuse the land because we regard it as a commodity belonging to us. When we see land as a community to which we belong, we may begin to use it with love and respect.
Aldo Leopold, A Sand County Almanac


#5551 From: "Natives.Tim" <natives.tim@...>
Date: Mon Jan 4, 2010 3:56 pm
Subject: RE: [Native Gardening] message for Tim
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Frank,

 

I did answer some emails from you. Did I miss something?

 

BTW, you mentioned that you were planning on starting Culver’s root from seed. I have never had any luck with that species, but I keep trying. I sowed some yesterday to put into cold stratification.

 

Tim

 

 

From: nativegardening@yahoogroups.com [mailto:nativegardening@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of frank lawrence
Sent: Saturday, January 02, 2010 12:44 PM
To: natives
Subject: [Native Gardening] message for Tim

 

 

Hey Tim, did you ever receive the reply i sent you off site ?

Frank

We abuse the land because we regard it as a commodity belonging to us. When we see land as a community to which we belong, we may begin to use it with love and respect.

Aldo Leopold, A Sand County Almanac

 


#5550 From: VanShel400@...
Date: Mon Jan 4, 2010 1:52 pm
Subject: Creation Care on the Niagara Frontier
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Only the tame birds have a longing. The wild ones fly.
- Elmer Diktonius -


Several weeks ago an acquaintance introduced me to the phrase "creation care."  I learned this referred to the growing awareness across the country within religious communities that they should take an active stance regarding the natural world, that its protection and restoration is an important part of living a spiritual life. This concept arose from within the religious communities themselves, perhaps from those who already had an interest in the environment, camping, hiking, bird-watching, and so on.

You may already be involved with creation care. I'm writing to offer you an opportunity to take a small step that would be very important to us here on the Niagara Frontier. Please go to www.niagaraheritage.org to learn about efforts to remove a highway along the unique Niagara gorge rim & to restore natural landscapes there with hiking and bicycling trails. If you are convinced and want to help--please sign the online petition in support. Every vote counts as we try to demonstrate to political leaders and others the value of this small part of the natural word, which is, after all, only on loan to us. Ask family members and friends to sign as well.

The very best to you in the new year and beyond. Please email me any questions you may have about the proposal to remove this road.


Take care,
Bob Baxter

#5549 From: frank lawrence <naturalimages11@...>
Date: Sat Jan 2, 2010 6:43 pm
Subject: message for Tim
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Hey Tim, did you ever receive the reply i sent you off site ?
Frank

We abuse the land because we regard it as a commodity belonging to us. When we see land as a community to which we belong, we may begin to use it with love and respect.
Aldo Leopold, A Sand County Almanac


#5548 From: "Natives.Tim" <natives.tim@...>
Date: Wed Dec 16, 2009 2:27 pm
Subject: RE: [Native Gardening] Native seed propagating.
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I agree with what April said but I was answering Frank’s question from my experience of working at a greenhouse. When seeds are sown in a soil-less mix, the germination rate increases dramatically for most species. Some species have higher germination rates than others and can germinate in almost any soil. Monarda and Rudbeckia hirta come to mind. Also, even the most environmentally sensitive greenhouse is looking for the best compromise to grow more plants.

 

My advice was about starting the seeds. I should have added that after the seeds develop their true leaves and a good root, they need to be transplanted to individual containers, which are filled with whatever growing mix you want to use. I understand and appreciate the concern about using peat. I consider, though, the peat that I use is helping me grow native plants which will benefit the earth and wildlife. At the same time, the peat is being returned to the earth so it is not wasted.

 

Tim, Wild Ones Certified Ecoscaper

"Come forth into the light of things, let nature be your teacher."

--William Wordsworth

 

From: nativegardening@yahoogroups.com [mailto:nativegardening@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of April Hughes
Sent: Tuesday, December 15, 2009 6:32 PM
To: nativegardening@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Native Gardening] Native seed propagating.

 

 

Yeah, but my point is that native plants, out in the wild, don't grow in soil-less mixes. They grow in actual soil.

The potting soil I buy at Jewel is a nice sandy loam. I get excellent germination, and a high rate of transplant success.  I'll continue to use it, as I have the same reservations about soil-less mix as Frank does. 

 

I work in the greenhouse at school.  All we use is soil-less mix.  It's great for seedlings...not so much for anything beyond the first two sets of true leaves, as far as natives are concerned.  It crusts, it's a banquet for thrips and fungus gnats, etc.  It's sterile. 
 

Antiquis temporibus, nati tibi similes in rupibus ventosissimis exponebantur ad necem.

 

 


From: Natives.Tim <natives.tim@...>
To: nativegardening@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tue, December 15, 2009 3:53:59 PM
Subject: RE: [Native Gardening] Native seed propagating.

 

Frank,

 

No, potting soil mixes can contain soil, depending on its intended use and its quality. Just take a look at the wide selection at your garden center or big-box hardware store. For seed starting, seeds do not need soil for its nutrients. That is why most do not contain soil. The soilless mix makes it easier for the tiny roots to get started and grow rapidly. Soil is heavier and sometimes the salts in them can prevent the roots from growing.

 

I understand your concern about peat. The greenhouse owner and I searched for alternatives and the only thing we found was Coir. For the small grower, Coir is a good alternative and you can buy Coir mixes from some greenhouse suppliers. I checked a major one in the Midwest and the mix contains only 10 to 20% coir. The rest is peat, perlite, pine bark, and other stuff. Again, I experienced problems with Coir. Sometimes I use it and sometimes I do not.

 

My presentation will be a combination of PowerPoint and demonstration so I am not sure I will be distributing it. You could come to Rockford to see it on March 6, since you are nearby.

 

Tim, Wild Ones Certified Ecoscaper

"Come forth into the light of things, let nature be your teacher."

--William Wordsworth

 

From: nativegardening@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:nativegarde ning@yahoogroups .com] On Behalf Of frank lawrence
Sent: Tuesday, December 15, 2009 11:04 AM
To: nativegardening@ yahoogroups. com
Subject: RE: [Native Gardening] Native seed propagating.

 

 

Thanks for your input Tim, couple questions tho. Potting soil is not really soil but a type of soiless mix is it not ? I'm also very reluctant to use Peat because its at odds with one of my principles which is to do no harm to ANY ecosystem, is there any other alternatives ?

After you do your lecture, will you have a abstract from which I can read ?

We abuse the land because we regard it as a commodity belonging to us. When we see land as a community to which we belong, we may begin to use it with love and respect.

Aldo Leopold, A Sand County Almanac



--- On Mon, 12/14/09, Natives.Tim <natives.tim@ comcast.net> wrote:


From: Natives.Tim <natives.tim@ comcast.net>
Subject: RE: [Native Gardening] Native seed propagating.
To: nativegardening@ yahoogroups. com
Date: Monday, December 14, 2009, 12:37 PM

 

Frank,

 

I highly recommend you use a soilless seed starting mix and not potting soil. Potting soil is too heavy and can inhibit germination or make it harder for the tiny seedlings to grow. The reason we grow seed in a soilless mix is because we want a higher rate of germination. In nature, seed falls on the ground but only a small percentage of the seed actually germinates and grows to a full-sized plant. Giving seeds a better chance to grow in controlled environments results in more plants.

 

I believe you know where I worked so you know I learned from that greenhouse about starting seed. They bought a mix from Carlin but for most of us, we cannot afford the minimum purchase. For years, I have used Jiffy seed starting mix. It is mostly finely ground peat, pearlite and vermiculite. I have also used Coir which is ground up coconut husks. The problem with Coir is that it is difficult to tell when it is dry or too wet. I have mixed it in with other seed starting mixes though. I have had success with many species and some have never germinated for me, including Culver’s Root.

 

Funny you should ask this now. I am preparing a presentation to give in March on starting native seed indoors. There is not enough time for me to tell you here how to do it yourself. However, there are some good books on the subject.

Growing and Propagating Wildflowers of the United States and Canada by William Cullina is my favorite.

 

Tim, Wild Ones Certified Ecoscaper

"Come forth into the light of things, let nature be your teacher."

--William Wordsworth

 

From: nativegardening@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:nativegarde ning@yahoogroups .com] On Behalf Of frank lawrence
Sent: Sunday, December 13, 2009 6:32 PM
To: nativegardening@ yahoogroups. com
Subject: Re: [Native Gardening] Native seed propagating.

 

 

I cut the seed heads off and placed them in a tub, they haven't dropped yet but will shake them out when they're drier.

We abuse the land because we regard it as a commodity belonging to us. When we see land as a community to which we belong, we may begin to use it with love and respect.

Aldo Leopold, A Sand County Almanac



--- On Sun, 12/13/09, April Hughes <ahughes798@ameritec h.net> wrote:


From: April Hughes <ahughes798@ameritec h.net>
Subject: Re: [Native Gardening] Native seed propagating.
To: nativegardening@ yahoogroups. com
Date: Sunday, December 13, 2009, 6:22 PM

 

I'm impressed that you could find Culver's Root seed at all...i'm either too early or too late, LOL!  Luckily, it doesn't need my help. 

Antiquis temporibus, nati tibi similes in rupibus ventosissimis exponebantur ad necem.

 

 


From: frank lawrence <naturalimages11@ yahoo.com>
To: nativegardening@ yahoogroups. com
Sent: Sun, December 13, 2009 6:06:04 PM
Subject: Re: [Native Gardening] Native seed propagating.

 

Yes April, I plan on buying native seed which should be ready to go by early March. I collect seed every year but I broadcast it in the fall in my clients yards. This year the only seed I kept was Culvers root. Its currently not clean as its still a bit moist but stored outside.

We abuse the land because we regard it as a commodity belonging to us. When we see land as a community to which we belong, we may begin to use it with love and respect.

Aldo Leopold, A Sand County Almanac



--- On Sun, 12/13/09, April Hughes <ahughes798@ameritec h.net> wrote:


From: April Hughes <ahughes798@ameritec h.net>
Subject: Re: [Native Gardening] Native seed propagating.
To: nativegardening@ yahoogroups. com
Date: Sunday, December 13, 2009, 5:54 PM

 

Spring will be too late for most native plant seed, especially in a greenhouse environment, they need cold/moist stratification. 

I plant my seed now or around the solstice, in styrofoam cups(though you could do it through late Jan., early Feb.)with lots of holes in them, enclosed in a large baggie, using cheap potting soil I get from Jewel at around $2.00/10 lbs. Soil should be moist.  Then I chuck the whole mess outside and let nature take it's course.  When it starts warming up, you'll have to open the baggie more and more so the seedlings don't bake.    

Antiquis temporibus, nati tibi similes in rupibus ventosissimis exponebantur ad necem.

 

 


From: naturalimages11 <naturalimages11@ yahoo.com>
To: nativegardening@ yahoogroups. com
Sent: Sun, December 13, 2009 5:27:03 PM
Subject: [Native Gardening] Native seed propagating.

 

I will have acess next Sping to a renovated Greenhouse and plan on trying to start some native seeds in containers. Never gave it a try but did take Propagation in college so I'm aware of most the basics. Would like to hear what has suceeded for any growers here as I'm looking into the best soil mixes, any comments would be appreciated.
Frank
N.Illinois

 

 


#5547 From: frank lawrence <naturalimages11@...>
Date: Wed Dec 16, 2009 12:27 pm
Subject: RE: [Native Gardening] Native seed propagating.
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Yes give me more details on your talk and I will indeed come....time, place, etc....

We abuse the land because we regard it as a commodity belonging to us. When we see land as a community to which we belong, we may begin to use it with love and respect.
Aldo Leopold, A Sand County Almanac


--- On Tue, 12/15/09, Natives.Tim <natives.tim@...> wrote:

From: Natives.Tim <natives.tim@...>
Subject: RE: [Native Gardening] Native seed propagating.
To: nativegardening@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday, December 15, 2009, 3:53 PM

 

Frank,

 

No, potting soil mixes can contain soil, depending on its intended use and its quality. Just take a look at the wide selection at your garden center or big-box hardware store. For seed starting, seeds do not need soil for its nutrients. That is why most do not contain soil. The soilless mix makes it easier for the tiny roots to get started and grow rapidly. Soil is heavier and sometimes the salts in them can prevent the roots from growing.

 

I understand your concern about peat. The greenhouse owner and I searched for alternatives and the only thing we found was Coir. For the small grower, Coir is a good alternative and you can buy Coir mixes from some greenhouse suppliers. I checked a major one in the Midwest and the mix contains only 10 to 20% coir. The rest is peat, perlite, pine bark, and other stuff. Again, I experienced problems with Coir. Sometimes I use it and sometimes I do not.

 

My presentation will be a combination of PowerPoint and demonstration so I am not sure I will be distributing it. You could come to Rockford to see it on March 6, since you are nearby.

 

Tim, Wild Ones Certified Ecoscaper

"Come forth into the light of things, let nature be your teacher."

--William Wordsworth

 

From: nativegardening@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:nativegarde ning@yahoogroups .com] On Behalf Of frank lawrence
Sent: Tuesday, December 15, 2009 11:04 AM
To: nativegardening@ yahoogroups. com
Subject: RE: [Native Gardening] Native seed propagating.

 

 

Thanks for your input Tim, couple questions tho. Potting soil is not really soil but a type of soiless mix is it not ? I'm also very reluctant to use Peat because its at odds with one of my principles which is to do no harm to ANY ecosystem, is there any other alternatives ?

After you do your lecture, will you have a abstract from which I can read ?

We abuse the land because we regard it as a commodity belonging to us. When we see land as a community to which we belong, we may begin to use it with love and respect.

Aldo Leopold, A Sand County Almanac



--- On Mon, 12/14/09, Natives.Tim <natives.tim@ comcast.net> wrote:


From: Natives.Tim <natives.tim@ comcast.net>
Subject: RE: [Native Gardening] Native seed propagating.
To: nativegardening@ yahoogroups. com
Date: Monday, December 14, 2009, 12:37 PM

 

Frank,

 

I highly recommend you use a soilless seed starting mix and not potting soil. Potting soil is too heavy and can inhibit germination or make it harder for the tiny seedlings to grow. The reason we grow seed in a soilless mix is because we want a higher rate of germination. In nature, seed falls on the ground but only a small percentage of the seed actually germinates and grows to a full-sized plant. Giving seeds a better chance to grow in controlled environments results in more plants.

 

I believe you know where I worked so you know I learned from that greenhouse about starting seed. They bought a mix from Carlin but for most of us, we cannot afford the minimum purchase. For years, I have used Jiffy seed starting mix. It is mostly finely ground peat, pearlite and vermiculite. I have also used Coir which is ground up coconut husks. The problem with Coir is that it is difficult to tell when it is dry or too wet. I have mixed it in with other seed starting mixes though. I have had success with many species and some have never germinated for me, including Culver’s Root.

 

Funny you should ask this now. I am preparing a presentation to give in March on starting native seed indoors. There is not enough time for me to tell you here how to do it yourself. However, there are some good books on the subject.

Growing and Propagating Wildflowers of the United States and Canada by William Cullina is my favorite.

 

Tim, Wild Ones Certified Ecoscaper

"Come forth into the light of things, let nature be your teacher."

--William Wordsworth

 

From: nativegardening@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:nativegarde ning@yahoogroups .com] On Behalf Of frank lawrence
Sent: Sunday, December 13, 2009 6:32 PM
To: nativegardening@ yahoogroups. com
Subject: Re: [Native Gardening] Native seed propagating.

 

 

I cut the seed heads off and placed them in a tub, they haven't dropped yet but will shake them out when they're drier.

We abuse the land because we regard it as a commodity belonging to us. When we see land as a community to which we belong, we may begin to use it with love and respect.

Aldo Leopold, A Sand County Almanac



--- On Sun, 12/13/09, April Hughes <ahughes798@ameritec h.net> wrote:


From: April Hughes <ahughes798@ameritec h.net>
Subject: Re: [Native Gardening] Native seed propagating.
To: nativegardening@ yahoogroups. com
Date: Sunday, December 13, 2009, 6:22 PM

 

I'm impressed that you could find Culver's Root seed at all...i'm either too early or too late, LOL!  Luckily, it doesn't need my help. 

Antiquis temporibus, nati tibi similes in rupibus ventosissimis exponebantur ad necem.

 

 


From: frank lawrence <naturalimages11@ yahoo.com>
To: nativegardening@ yahoogroups. com
Sent: Sun, December 13, 2009 6:06:04 PM
Subject: Re: [Native Gardening] Native seed propagating.

 

Yes April, I plan on buying native seed which should be ready to go by early March. I collect seed every year but I broadcast it in the fall in my clients yards. This year the only seed I kept was Culvers root. Its currently not clean as its still a bit moist but stored outside.

We abuse the land because we regard it as a commodity belonging to us. When we see land as a community to which we belong, we may begin to use it with love and respect.

Aldo Leopold, A Sand County Almanac



--- On Sun, 12/13/09, April Hughes <ahughes798@ameritec h.net> wrote:


From: April Hughes <ahughes798@ameritec h.net>
Subject: Re: [Native Gardening] Native seed propagating.
To: nativegardening@ yahoogroups. com
Date: Sunday, December 13, 2009, 5:54 PM

 

Spring will be too late for most native plant seed, especially in a greenhouse environment, they need cold/moist stratification. 

I plant my seed now or around the solstice, in styrofoam cups(though you could do it through late Jan., early Feb.)with lots of holes in them, enclosed in a large baggie, using cheap potting soil I get from Jewel at around $2.00/10 lbs. Soil should be moist.  Then I chuck the whole mess outside and let nature take it's course.  When it starts warming up, you'll have to open the baggie more and more so the seedlings don't bake.    

Antiquis temporibus, nati tibi similes in rupibus ventosissimis exponebantur ad necem.

 

 


From: naturalimages11 <naturalimages11@ yahoo.com>
To: nativegardening@ yahoogroups. com
Sent: Sun, December 13, 2009 5:27:03 PM
Subject: [Native Gardening] Native seed propagating.

 

I will have acess next Sping to a renovated Greenhouse and plan on trying to start some native seeds in containers. Never gave it a try but did take Propagation in college so I'm aware of most the basics. Would like to hear what has suceeded for any growers here as I'm looking into the best soil mixes, any comments would be appreciated.
Frank
N.Illinois

 

 


#5546 From: April Hughes <ahughes798@...>
Date: Wed Dec 16, 2009 12:32 am
Subject: Re: [Native Gardening] Native seed propagating.
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Yeah, but my point is that native plants, out in the wild, don't grow in soil-less mixes. They grow in actual soil.
The potting soil I buy at Jewel is a nice sandy loam. I get excellent germination, and a high rate of transplant success.  I'll continue to use it, as I have the same reservations about soil-less mix as Frank does. 
 
I work in the greenhouse at school.  All we use is soil-less mix.  It's great for seedlings...not so much for anything beyond the first two sets of true leaves, as far as natives are concerned.  It crusts, it's a banquet for thrips and fungus gnats, etc.  It's sterile. 
 

Antiquis temporibus, nati tibi similes in rupibus ventosissimis exponebantur ad necem.




From: Natives.Tim <natives.tim@...>
To: nativegardening@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tue, December 15, 2009 3:53:59 PM
Subject: RE: [Native Gardening] Native seed propagating.

 

Frank,

 

No, potting soil mixes can contain soil, depending on its intended use and its quality. Just take a look at the wide selection at your garden center or big-box hardware store. For seed starting, seeds do not need soil for its nutrients. That is why most do not contain soil. The soilless mix makes it easier for the tiny roots to get started and grow rapidly. Soil is heavier and sometimes the salts in them can prevent the roots from growing.

 

I understand your concern about peat. The greenhouse owner and I searched for alternatives and the only thing we found was Coir. For the small grower, Coir is a good alternative and you can buy Coir mixes from some greenhouse suppliers. I checked a major one in the Midwest and the mix contains only 10 to 20% coir. The rest is peat, perlite, pine bark, and other stuff. Again, I experienced problems with Coir. Sometimes I use it and sometimes I do not.

 

My presentation will be a combination of PowerPoint and demonstration so I am not sure I will be distributing it. You could come to Rockford to see it on March 6, since you are nearby.

 

Tim, Wild Ones Certified Ecoscaper

"Come forth into the light of things, let nature be your teacher."

--William Wordsworth

 

From: nativegardening@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:nativegarde ning@yahoogroups .com] On Behalf Of frank lawrence
Sent: Tuesday, December 15, 2009 11:04 AM
To: nativegardening@ yahoogroups. com
Subject: RE: [Native Gardening] Native seed propagating.

 

 

Thanks for your input Tim, couple questions tho. Potting soil is not really soil but a type of soiless mix is it not ? I'm also very reluctant to use Peat because its at odds with one of my principles which is to do no harm to ANY ecosystem, is there any other alternatives ?

After you do your lecture, will you have a abstract from which I can read ?

We abuse the land because we regard it as a commodity belonging to us. When we see land as a community to which we belong, we may begin to use it with love and respect.

Aldo Leopold, A Sand County Almanac



--- On Mon, 12/14/09, Natives.Tim <natives.tim@ comcast.net> wrote:


From: Natives.Tim <natives.tim@ comcast.net>
Subject: RE: [Native Gardening] Native seed propagating.
To: nativegardening@ yahoogroups. com
Date: Monday, December 14, 2009, 12:37 PM

 

Frank,

 

I highly recommend you use a soilless seed starting mix and not potting soil. Potting soil is too heavy and can inhibit germination or make it harder for the tiny seedlings to grow. The reason we grow seed in a soilless mix is because we want a higher rate of germination. In nature, seed falls on the ground but only a small percentage of the seed actually germinates and grows to a full-sized plant. Giving seeds a better chance to grow in controlled environments results in more plants.

 

I believe you know where I worked so you know I learned from that greenhouse about starting seed. They bought a mix from Carlin but for most of us, we cannot afford the minimum purchase. For years, I have used Jiffy seed starting mix. It is mostly finely ground peat, pearlite and vermiculite. I have also used Coir which is ground up coconut husks. The problem with Coir is that it is difficult to tell when it is dry or too wet. I have mixed it in with other seed starting mixes though. I have had success with many species and some have never germinated for me, including Culver’s Root.

 

Funny you should ask this now. I am preparing a presentation to give in March on starting native seed indoors. There is not enough time for me to tell you here how to do it yourself. However, there are some good books on the subject.

Growing and Propagating Wildflowers of the United States and Canada by William Cullina is my favorite.

 

Tim, Wild Ones Certified Ecoscaper

"Come forth into the light of things, let nature be your teacher."

--William Wordsworth

 

From: nativegardening@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:nativegarde ning@yahoogroups .com] On Behalf Of frank lawrence
Sent: Sunday, December 13, 2009 6:32 PM
To: nativegardening@ yahoogroups. com
Subject: Re: [Native Gardening] Native seed propagating.

 

 

I cut the seed heads off and placed them in a tub, they haven't dropped yet but will shake them out when they're drier.

We abuse the land because we regard it as a commodity belonging to us. When we see land as a community to which we belong, we may begin to use it with love and respect.

Aldo Leopold, A Sand County Almanac



--- On Sun, 12/13/09, April Hughes <ahughes798@ameritec h.net> wrote:


From: April Hughes <ahughes798@ameritec h.net>
Subject: Re: [Native Gardening] Native seed propagating.
To: nativegardening@ yahoogroups. com
Date: Sunday, December 13, 2009, 6:22 PM

 

I'm impressed that you could find Culver's Root seed at all...i'm either too early or too late, LOL!  Luckily, it doesn't need my help. 

Antiquis temporibus, nati tibi similes in rupibus ventosissimis exponebantur ad necem.

 

 


From: frank lawrence <naturalimages11@ yahoo.com>
To: nativegardening@ yahoogroups. com
Sent: Sun, December 13, 2009 6:06:04 PM
Subject: Re: [Native Gardening] Native seed propagating.

 

Yes April, I plan on buying native seed which should be ready to go by early March. I collect seed every year but I broadcast it in the fall in my clients yards. This year the only seed I kept was Culvers root. Its currently not clean as its still a bit moist but stored outside.

We abuse the land because we regard it as a commodity belonging to us. When we see land as a community to which we belong, we may begin to use it with love and respect.

Aldo Leopold, A Sand County Almanac



--- On Sun, 12/13/09, April Hughes <ahughes798@ameritec h.net> wrote:


From: April Hughes <ahughes798@ameritec h.net>
Subject: Re: [Native Gardening] Native seed propagating.
To: nativegardening@ yahoogroups. com
Date: Sunday, December 13, 2009, 5:54 PM

 

Spring will be too late for most native plant seed, especially in a greenhouse environment, they need cold/moist stratification. 

I plant my seed now or around the solstice, in styrofoam cups(though you could do it through late Jan., early Feb.)with lots of holes in them, enclosed in a large baggie, using cheap potting soil I get from Jewel at around $2.00/10 lbs. Soil should be moist.  Then I chuck the whole mess outside and let nature take it's course.  When it starts warming up, you'll have to open the baggie more and more so the seedlings don't bake.    

Antiquis temporibus, nati tibi similes in rupibus ventosissimis exponebantur ad necem.

 

 


From: naturalimages11 <naturalimages11@ yahoo.com>
To: nativegardening@ yahoogroups. com
Sent: Sun, December 13, 2009 5:27:03 PM
Subject: [Native Gardening] Native seed propagating.

 

I will have acess next Sping to a renovated Greenhouse and plan on trying to start some native seeds in containers. Never gave it a try but did take Propagation in college so I'm aware of most the basics. Would like to hear what has suceeded for any growers here as I'm looking into the best soil mixes, any comments would be appreciated.
Frank
N.Illinois

 

 


#5545 From: "Natives.Tim" <natives.tim@...>
Date: Tue Dec 15, 2009 9:53 pm
Subject: RE: [Native Gardening] Native seed propagating.
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Frank,

 

No, potting soil mixes can contain soil, depending on its intended use and its quality. Just take a look at the wide selection at your garden center or big-box hardware store. For seed starting, seeds do not need soil for its nutrients. That is why most do not contain soil. The soilless mix makes it easier for the tiny roots to get started and grow rapidly. Soil is heavier and sometimes the salts in them can prevent the roots from growing.

 

I understand your concern about peat. The greenhouse owner and I searched for alternatives and the only thing we found was Coir. For the small grower, Coir is a good alternative and you can buy Coir mixes from some greenhouse suppliers. I checked a major one in the Midwest and the mix contains only 10 to 20% coir. The rest is peat, perlite, pine bark, and other stuff. Again, I experienced problems with Coir. Sometimes I use it and sometimes I do not.

 

My presentation will be a combination of PowerPoint and demonstration so I am not sure I will be distributing it. You could come to Rockford to see it on March 6, since you are nearby.

 

Tim, Wild Ones Certified Ecoscaper

"Come forth into the light of things, let nature be your teacher."

--William Wordsworth

 

From: nativegardening@yahoogroups.com [mailto:nativegardening@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of frank lawrence
Sent: Tuesday, December 15, 2009 11:04 AM
To: nativegardening@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Native Gardening] Native seed propagating.

 

 

Thanks for your input Tim, couple questions tho. Potting soil is not really soil but a type of soiless mix is it not ? I'm also very reluctant to use Peat because its at odds with one of my principles which is to do no harm to ANY ecosystem, is there any other alternatives ?

After you do your lecture, will you have a abstract from which I can read ?

We abuse the land because we regard it as a commodity belonging to us. When we see land as a community to which we belong, we may begin to use it with love and respect.

Aldo Leopold, A Sand County Almanac



--- On Mon, 12/14/09, Natives.Tim <natives.tim@...> wrote:


From: Natives.Tim <natives.tim@...>
Subject: RE: [Native Gardening] Native seed propagating.
To: nativegardening@yahoogroups.com
Date: Monday, December 14, 2009, 12:37 PM

 

Frank,

 

I highly recommend you use a soilless seed starting mix and not potting soil. Potting soil is too heavy and can inhibit germination or make it harder for the tiny seedlings to grow. The reason we grow seed in a soilless mix is because we want a higher rate of germination. In nature, seed falls on the ground but only a small percentage of the seed actually germinates and grows to a full-sized plant. Giving seeds a better chance to grow in controlled environments results in more plants.

 

I believe you know where I worked so you know I learned from that greenhouse about starting seed. They bought a mix from Carlin but for most of us, we cannot afford the minimum purchase. For years, I have used Jiffy seed starting mix. It is mostly finely ground peat, pearlite and vermiculite. I have also used Coir which is ground up coconut husks. The problem with Coir is that it is difficult to tell when it is dry or too wet. I have mixed it in with other seed starting mixes though. I have had success with many species and some have never germinated for me, including Culver’s Root.

 

Funny you should ask this now. I am preparing a presentation to give in March on starting native seed indoors. There is not enough time for me to tell you here how to do it yourself. However, there are some good books on the subject.

Growing and Propagating Wildflowers of the United States and Canada by William Cullina is my favorite.

 

Tim, Wild Ones Certified Ecoscaper

"Come forth into the light of things, let nature be your teacher."

--William Wordsworth

 

From: nativegardening@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:nativegarde ning@yahoogroups .com] On Behalf Of frank lawrence
Sent: Sunday, December 13, 2009 6:32 PM
To: nativegardening@ yahoogroups. com
Subject: Re: [Native Gardening] Native seed propagating.

 

 

I cut the seed heads off and placed them in a tub, they haven't dropped yet but will shake them out when they're drier.

We abuse the land because we regard it as a commodity belonging to us. When we see land as a community to which we belong, we may begin to use it with love and respect.

Aldo Leopold, A Sand County Almanac



--- On Sun, 12/13/09, April Hughes <ahughes798@ameritec h.net> wrote:


From: April Hughes <ahughes798@ameritec h.net>
Subject: Re: [Native Gardening] Native seed propagating.
To: nativegardening@ yahoogroups. com
Date: Sunday, December 13, 2009, 6:22 PM

 

I'm impressed that you could find Culver's Root seed at all...i'm either too early or too late, LOL!  Luckily, it doesn't need my help. 

Antiquis temporibus, nati tibi similes in rupibus ventosissimis exponebantur ad necem.

 

 


From: frank lawrence <naturalimages11@ yahoo.com>
To: nativegardening@ yahoogroups. com
Sent: Sun, December 13, 2009 6:06:04 PM
Subject: Re: [Native Gardening] Native seed propagating.

 

Yes April, I plan on buying native seed which should be ready to go by early March. I collect seed every year but I broadcast it in the fall in my clients yards. This year the only seed I kept was Culvers root. Its currently not clean as its still a bit moist but stored outside.

We abuse the land because we regard it as a commodity belonging to us. When we see land as a community to which we belong, we may begin to use it with love and respect.

Aldo Leopold, A Sand County Almanac



--- On Sun, 12/13/09, April Hughes <ahughes798@ameritec h.net> wrote:


From: April Hughes <ahughes798@ameritec h.net>
Subject: Re: [Native Gardening] Native seed propagating.
To: nativegardening@ yahoogroups. com
Date: Sunday, December 13, 2009, 5:54 PM

 

Spring will be too late for most native plant seed, especially in a greenhouse environment, they need cold/moist stratification. 

I plant my seed now or around the solstice, in styrofoam cups(though you could do it through late Jan., early Feb.)with lots of holes in them, enclosed in a large baggie, using cheap potting soil I get from Jewel at around $2.00/10 lbs. Soil should be moist.  Then I chuck the whole mess outside and let nature take it's course.  When it starts warming up, you'll have to open the baggie more and more so the seedlings don't bake.    

Antiquis temporibus, nati tibi similes in rupibus ventosissimis exponebantur ad necem.

 

 


From: naturalimages11 <naturalimages11@ yahoo.com>
To: nativegardening@ yahoogroups. com
Sent: Sun, December 13, 2009 5:27:03 PM
Subject: [Native Gardening] Native seed propagating.

 

I will have acess next Sping to a renovated Greenhouse and plan on trying to start some native seeds in containers. Never gave it a try but did take Propagation in college so I'm aware of most the basics. Would like to hear what has suceeded for any growers here as I'm looking into the best soil mixes, any comments would be appreciated.
Frank
N.Illinois

 

 


#5544 From: frank lawrence <naturalimages11@...>
Date: Tue Dec 15, 2009 5:04 pm
Subject: RE: [Native Gardening] Native seed propagating.
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Thanks for your input Tim, couple questions tho. Potting soil is not really soil but a type of soiless mix is it not ? I'm also very reluctant to use Peat because its at odds with one of my principles which is to do no harm to ANY ecosystem, is there any other alternatives ?
After you do your lecture, will you have a abstract from which I can read ?

We abuse the land because we regard it as a commodity belonging to us. When we see land as a community to which we belong, we may begin to use it with love and respect.
Aldo Leopold, A Sand County Almanac


--- On Mon, 12/14/09, Natives.Tim <natives.tim@...> wrote:

From: Natives.Tim <natives.tim@...>
Subject: RE: [Native Gardening] Native seed propagating.
To: nativegardening@yahoogroups.com
Date: Monday, December 14, 2009, 12:37 PM

 

Frank,

 

I highly recommend you use a soilless seed starting mix and not potting soil. Potting soil is too heavy and can inhibit germination or make it harder for the tiny seedlings to grow. The reason we grow seed in a soilless mix is because we want a higher rate of germination. In nature, seed falls on the ground but only a small percentage of the seed actually germinates and grows to a full-sized plant. Giving seeds a better chance to grow in controlled environments results in more plants.

 

I believe you know where I worked so you know I learned from that greenhouse about starting seed. They bought a mix from Carlin but for most of us, we cannot afford the minimum purchase. For years, I have used Jiffy seed starting mix. It is mostly finely ground peat, pearlite and vermiculite. I have also used Coir which is ground up coconut husks. The problem with Coir is that it is difficult to tell when it is dry or too wet. I have mixed it in with other seed starting mixes though. I have had success with many species and some have never germinated for me, including Culver’s Root.

 

Funny you should ask this now. I am preparing a presentation to give in March on starting native seed indoors. There is not enough time for me to tell you here how to do it yourself. However, there are some good books on the subject.

Growing and Propagating Wildflowers of the United States and Canada by William Cullina is my favorite.

 

Tim, Wild Ones Certified Ecoscaper

"Come forth into the light of things, let nature be your teacher."

--William Wordsworth

 

From: nativegardening@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:nativegarde ning@yahoogroups .com] On Behalf Of frank lawrence
Sent: Sunday, December 13, 2009 6:32 PM
To: nativegardening@ yahoogroups. com
Subject: Re: [Native Gardening] Native seed propagating.

 

 

I cut the seed heads off and placed them in a tub, they haven't dropped yet but will shake them out when they're drier.

We abuse the land because we regard it as a commodity belonging to us. When we see land as a community to which we belong, we may begin to use it with love and respect.

Aldo Leopold, A Sand County Almanac



--- On Sun, 12/13/09, April Hughes <ahughes798@ameritec h.net> wrote:


From: April Hughes <ahughes798@ameritec h.net>
Subject: Re: [Native Gardening] Native seed propagating.
To: nativegardening@ yahoogroups. com
Date: Sunday, December 13, 2009, 6:22 PM

 

I'm impressed that you could find Culver's Root seed at all...i'm either too early or too late, LOL!  Luckily, it doesn't need my help. 

Antiquis temporibus, nati tibi similes in rupibus ventosissimis exponebantur ad necem.

 

 


From: frank lawrence <naturalimages11@ yahoo.com>
To: nativegardening@ yahoogroups. com
Sent: Sun, December 13, 2009 6:06:04 PM
Subject: Re: [Native Gardening] Native seed propagating.

 

Yes April, I plan on buying native seed which should be ready to go by early March. I collect seed every year but I broadcast it in the fall in my clients yards. This year the only seed I kept was Culvers root. Its currently not clean as its still a bit moist but stored outside.

We abuse the land because we regard it as a commodity belonging to us. When we see land as a community to which we belong, we may begin to use it with love and respect.

Aldo Leopold, A Sand County Almanac



--- On Sun, 12/13/09, April Hughes <ahughes798@ameritec h.net> wrote:


From: April Hughes <ahughes798@ameritec h.net>
Subject: Re: [Native Gardening] Native seed propagating.
To: nativegardening@ yahoogroups. com
Date: Sunday, December 13, 2009, 5:54 PM

 

Spring will be too late for most native plant seed, especially in a greenhouse environment, they need cold/moist stratification. 

I plant my seed now or around the solstice, in styrofoam cups(though you could do it through late Jan., early Feb.)with lots of holes in them, enclosed in a large baggie, using cheap potting soil I get from Jewel at around $2.00/10 lbs. Soil should be moist.  Then I chuck the whole mess outside and let nature take it's course.  When it starts warming up, you'll have to open the baggie more and more so the seedlings don't bake.    

Antiquis temporibus, nati tibi similes in rupibus ventosissimis exponebantur ad necem.

 

 


From: naturalimages11 <naturalimages11@ yahoo.com>
To: nativegardening@ yahoogroups. com
Sent: Sun, December 13, 2009 5:27:03 PM
Subject: [Native Gardening] Native seed propagating.

 

I will have acess next Sping to a renovated Greenhouse and plan on trying to start some native seeds in containers. Never gave it a try but did take Propagation in college so I'm aware of most the basics. Would like to hear what has suceeded for any growers here as I'm looking into the best soil mixes, any comments would be appreciated.
Frank
N.Illinois

 


#5543 From: "garrett4820" <garrett4820@...>
Date: Mon Dec 14, 2009 2:54 pm
Subject: Propagating native seeds
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Can you recommend a book on porpagating Minnesota wildflower? I was looking for
one for a Christmas present and have not found anything.

#5542 From: April Hughes <ahughes798@...>
Date: Mon Dec 14, 2009 11:48 pm
Subject: Re: [Native Gardening] Native seed propagating.
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I know you're supposed to do it with soil-less mix.  I just go for cheap and expedient, and still get about 85-90% germination. It's hard to buy anything less than a bale of peat. And it's generally not available locally when I need it. Hence cheap potting soil, which I amend with perlite and a little sand.


From: Natives.Tim <natives.tim@...>
To: nativegardening@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Mon, December 14, 2009 12:37:20 PM
Subject: RE: [Native Gardening] Native seed propagating.

 

Frank,

 

I highly recommend you use a soilless seed starting mix and not potting soil. Potting soil is too heavy and can inhibit germination or make it harder for the tiny seedlings to grow. The reason we grow seed in a soilless mix is because we want a higher rate of germination. In nature, seed falls on the ground but only a small percentage of the seed actually germinates and grows to a full-sized plant. Giving seeds a better chance to grow in controlled environments results in more plants.

 

I believe you know where I worked so you know I learned from that greenhouse about starting seed. They bought a mix from Carlin but for most of us, we cannot afford the minimum purchase. For years, I have used Jiffy seed starting mix. It is mostly finely ground peat, pearlite and vermiculite. I have also used Coir which is ground up coconut husks. The problem with Coir is that it is difficult to tell when it is dry or too wet. I have mixed it in with other seed starting mixes though. I have had success with many species and some have never germinated for me, including Culver’s Root.

 

Funny you should ask this now. I am preparing a presentation to give in March on starting native seed indoors. There is not enough time for me to tell you here how to do it yourself. However, there are some good books on the subject.

Growing and Propagating Wildflowers of the United States and Canada by William Cullina is my favorite.

 

Tim, Wild Ones Certified Ecoscaper

"Come forth into the light of things, let nature be your teacher."

--William Wordsworth

 

From: nativegardening@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:nativegarde ning@yahoogroups .com] On Behalf Of frank lawrence
Sent: Sunday, December 13, 2009 6:32 PM
To: nativegardening@ yahoogroups. com
Subject: Re: [Native Gardening] Native seed propagating.

 

 

I cut the seed heads off and placed them in a tub, they haven't dropped yet but will shake them out when they're drier.

We abuse the land because we regard it as a commodity belonging to us. When we see land as a community to which we belong, we may begin to use it with love and respect.

Aldo Leopold, A Sand County Almanac



--- On Sun, 12/13/09, April Hughes <ahughes798@ameritec h.net> wrote:


From: April Hughes <ahughes798@ameritec h.net>
Subject: Re: [Native Gardening] Native seed propagating.
To: nativegardening@ yahoogroups. com
Date: Sunday, December 13, 2009, 6:22 PM

 

I'm impressed that you could find Culver's Root seed at all...i'm either too early or too late, LOL!  Luckily, it doesn't need my help. 

Antiquis temporibus, nati tibi similes in rupibus ventosissimis exponebantur ad necem.

 

 


From: frank lawrence <naturalimages11@ yahoo.com>
To: nativegardening@ yahoogroups. com
Sent: Sun, December 13, 2009 6:06:04 PM
Subject: Re: [Native Gardening] Native seed propagating.

 

Yes April, I plan on buying native seed which should be ready to go by early March. I collect seed every year but I broadcast it in the fall in my clients yards. This year the only seed I kept was Culvers root. Its currently not clean as its still a bit moist but stored outside.

We abuse the land because we regard it as a commodity belonging to us. When we see land as a community to which we belong, we may begin to use it with love and respect.

Aldo Leopold, A Sand County Almanac



--- On Sun, 12/13/09, April Hughes <ahughes798@ameritec h.net> wrote:


From: April Hughes <ahughes798@ameritec h.net>
Subject: Re: [Native Gardening] Native seed propagating.
To: nativegardening@ yahoogroups. com
Date: Sunday, December 13, 2009, 5:54 PM

 

Spring will be too late for most native plant seed, especially in a greenhouse environment, they need cold/moist stratification. 

I plant my seed now or around the solstice, in styrofoam cups(though you could do it through late Jan., early Feb.)with lots of holes in them, enclosed in a large baggie, using cheap potting soil I get from Jewel at around $2.00/10 lbs. Soil should be moist.  Then I chuck the whole mess outside and let nature take it's course.  When it starts warming up, you'll have to open the baggie more and more so the seedlings don't bake.    

Antiquis temporibus, nati tibi similes in rupibus ventosissimis exponebantur ad necem.

 

 


From: naturalimages11 <naturalimages11@ yahoo.com>
To: nativegardening@ yahoogroups. com
Sent: Sun, December 13, 2009 5:27:03 PM
Subject: [Native Gardening] Native seed propagating.

 

I will have acess next Sping to a renovated Greenhouse and plan on trying to start some native seeds in containers. Never gave it a try but did take Propagation in college so I'm aware of most the basics. Would like to hear what has suceeded for any growers here as I'm looking into the best soil mixes, any comments would be appreciated.
Frank
N.Illinois

 


#5541 From: "Natives.Tim" <natives.tim@...>
Date: Mon Dec 14, 2009 6:37 pm
Subject: RE: [Native Gardening] Native seed propagating.
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Frank,

 

I highly recommend you use a soilless seed starting mix and not potting soil. Potting soil is too heavy and can inhibit germination or make it harder for the tiny seedlings to grow. The reason we grow seed in a soilless mix is because we want a higher rate of germination. In nature, seed falls on the ground but only a small percentage of the seed actually germinates and grows to a full-sized plant. Giving seeds a better chance to grow in controlled environments results in more plants.

 

I believe you know where I worked so you know I learned from that greenhouse about starting seed. They bought a mix from Carlin but for most of us, we cannot afford the minimum purchase. For years, I have used Jiffy seed starting mix. It is mostly finely ground peat, pearlite and vermiculite. I have also used Coir which is ground up coconut husks. The problem with Coir is that it is difficult to tell when it is dry or too wet. I have mixed it in with other seed starting mixes though. I have had success with many species and some have never germinated for me, including Culver’s Root.

 

Funny you should ask this now. I am preparing a presentation to give in March on starting native seed indoors. There is not enough time for me to tell you here how to do it yourself. However, there are some good books on the subject.

Growing and Propagating Wildflowers of the United States and Canada by William Cullina is my favorite.

 

Tim, Wild Ones Certified Ecoscaper

"Come forth into the light of things, let nature be your teacher."

--William Wordsworth

 

From: nativegardening@yahoogroups.com [mailto:nativegardening@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of frank lawrence
Sent: Sunday, December 13, 2009 6:32 PM
To: nativegardening@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Native Gardening] Native seed propagating.

 

 

I cut the seed heads off and placed them in a tub, they haven't dropped yet but will shake them out when they're drier.

We abuse the land because we regard it as a commodity belonging to us. When we see land as a community to which we belong, we may begin to use it with love and respect.

Aldo Leopold, A Sand County Almanac



--- On Sun, 12/13/09, April Hughes <ahughes798@...> wrote:


From: April Hughes <ahughes798@...>
Subject: Re: [Native Gardening] Native seed propagating.
To: nativegardening@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sunday, December 13, 2009, 6:22 PM

 

I'm impressed that you could find Culver's Root seed at all...i'm either too early or too late, LOL!  Luckily, it doesn't need my help. 

Antiquis temporibus, nati tibi similes in rupibus ventosissimis exponebantur ad necem.

 

 


From: frank lawrence <naturalimages11@ yahoo.com>
To: nativegardening@ yahoogroups. com
Sent: Sun, December 13, 2009 6:06:04 PM
Subject: Re: [Native Gardening] Native seed propagating.

 

Yes April, I plan on buying native seed which should be ready to go by early March. I collect seed every year but I broadcast it in the fall in my clients yards. This year the only seed I kept was Culvers root. Its currently not clean as its still a bit moist but stored outside.

We abuse the land because we regard it as a commodity belonging to us. When we see land as a community to which we belong, we may begin to use it with love and respect.

Aldo Leopold, A Sand County Almanac



--- On Sun, 12/13/09, April Hughes <ahughes798@ameritec h.net> wrote:


From: April Hughes <ahughes798@ameritec h.net>
Subject: Re: [Native Gardening] Native seed propagating.
To: nativegardening@ yahoogroups. com
Date: Sunday, December 13, 2009, 5:54 PM

 

Spring will be too late for most native plant seed, especially in a greenhouse environment, they need cold/moist stratification. 

I plant my seed now or around the solstice, in styrofoam cups(though you could do it through late Jan., early Feb.)with lots of holes in them, enclosed in a large baggie, using cheap potting soil I get from Jewel at around $2.00/10 lbs. Soil should be moist.  Then I chuck the whole mess outside and let nature take it's course.  When it starts warming up, you'll have to open the baggie more and more so the seedlings don't bake.    

Antiquis temporibus, nati tibi similes in rupibus ventosissimis exponebantur ad necem.

 

 


From: naturalimages11 <naturalimages11@ yahoo.com>
To: nativegardening@ yahoogroups. com
Sent: Sun, December 13, 2009 5:27:03 PM
Subject: [Native Gardening] Native seed propagating.

 

I will have acess next Sping to a renovated Greenhouse and plan on trying to start some native seeds in containers. Never gave it a try but did take Propagation in college so I'm aware of most the basics. Would like to hear what has suceeded for any growers here as I'm looking into the best soil mixes, any comments would be appreciated.
Frank
N.Illinois

 


#5540 From: frank lawrence <naturalimages11@...>
Date: Mon Dec 14, 2009 12:32 am
Subject: Re: [Native Gardening] Native seed propagating.
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I cut the seed heads off and placed them in a tub, they haven't dropped yet but will shake them out when they're drier.

We abuse the land because we regard it as a commodity belonging to us. When we see land as a community to which we belong, we may begin to use it with love and respect.
Aldo Leopold, A Sand County Almanac


--- On Sun, 12/13/09, April Hughes <ahughes798@...> wrote:

From: April Hughes <ahughes798@...>
Subject: Re: [Native Gardening] Native seed propagating.
To: nativegardening@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sunday, December 13, 2009, 6:22 PM

 
I'm impressed that you could find Culver's Root seed at all...i'm either too early or too late, LOL!  Luckily, it doesn't need my help. 

Antiquis temporibus, nati tibi similes in rupibus ventosissimis exponebantur ad necem.




From: frank lawrence <naturalimages11@ yahoo.com>
To: nativegardening@ yahoogroups. com
Sent: Sun, December 13, 2009 6:06:04 PM
Subject: Re: [Native Gardening] Native seed propagating.

 
Yes April, I plan on buying native seed which should be ready to go by early March. I collect seed every year but I broadcast it in the fall in my clients yards. This year the only seed I kept was Culvers root. Its currently not clean as its still a bit moist but stored outside.

We abuse the land because we regard it as a commodity belonging to us. When we see land as a community to which we belong, we may begin to use it with love and respect.
Aldo Leopold, A Sand County Almanac


--- On Sun, 12/13/09, April Hughes <ahughes798@ameritec h.net> wrote:

From: April Hughes <ahughes798@ameritec h.net>
Subject: Re: [Native Gardening] Native seed propagating.
To: nativegardening@ yahoogroups. com
Date: Sunday, December 13, 2009, 5:54 PM

 
Spring will be too late for most native plant seed, especially in a greenhouse environment, they need cold/moist stratification. 
I plant my seed now or around the solstice, in styrofoam cups(though you could do it through late Jan., early Feb.)with lots of holes in them, enclosed in a large baggie, using cheap potting soil I get from Jewel at around $2.00/10 lbs. Soil should be moist.  Then I chuck the whole mess outside and let nature take it's course.  When it starts warming up, you'll have to open the baggie more and more so the seedlings don't bake.    

Antiquis temporibus, nati tibi similes in rupibus ventosissimis exponebantur ad necem.




From: naturalimages11 <naturalimages11@ yahoo.com>
To: nativegardening@ yahoogroups. com
Sent: Sun, December 13, 2009 5:27:03 PM
Subject: [Native Gardening] Native seed propagating.

 
I will have acess next Sping to a renovated Greenhouse and plan on trying to start some native seeds in containers. Never gave it a try but did take Propagation in college so I'm aware of most the basics. Would like to hear what has suceeded for any growers here as I'm looking into the best soil mixes, any comments would be appreciated.
Frank
N.Illinois




#5539 From: April Hughes <ahughes798@...>
Date: Mon Dec 14, 2009 12:22 am
Subject: Re: [Native Gardening] Native seed propagating.
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I'm impressed that you could find Culver's Root seed at all...i'm either too early or too late, LOL!  Luckily, it doesn't need my help. 

Antiquis temporibus, nati tibi similes in rupibus ventosissimis exponebantur ad necem.




From: frank lawrence <naturalimages11@...>
To: nativegardening@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sun, December 13, 2009 6:06:04 PM
Subject: Re: [Native Gardening] Native seed propagating.

 

Yes April, I plan on buying native seed which should be ready to go by early March. I collect seed every year but I broadcast it in the fall in my clients yards. This year the only seed I kept was Culvers root. Its currently not clean as its still a bit moist but stored outside.

We abuse the land because we regard it as a commodity belonging to us. When we see land as a community to which we belong, we may begin to use it with love and respect.
Aldo Leopold, A Sand County Almanac


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From: April Hughes <ahughes798@ameritec h.net>
Subject: Re: [Native Gardening] Native seed propagating.
To: nativegardening@ yahoogroups. com
Date: Sunday, December 13, 2009, 5:54 PM

 
Spring will be too late for most native plant seed, especially in a greenhouse environment, they need cold/moist stratification. 
I plant my seed now or around the solstice, in styrofoam cups(though you could do it through late Jan., early Feb.)with lots of holes in them, enclosed in a large baggie, using cheap potting soil I get from Jewel at around $2.00/10 lbs. Soil should be moist.  Then I chuck the whole mess outside and let nature take it's course.  When it starts warming up, you'll have to open the baggie more and more so the seedlings don't bake.    

Antiquis temporibus, nati tibi similes in rupibus ventosissimis exponebantur ad necem.




From: naturalimages11 <naturalimages11@ yahoo.com>
To: nativegardening@ yahoogroups. com
Sent: Sun, December 13, 2009 5:27:03 PM
Subject: [Native Gardening] Native seed propagating.

 
I will have acess next Sping to a renovated Greenhouse and plan on trying to start some native seeds in containers. Never gave it a try but did take Propagation in college so I'm aware of most the basics. Would like to hear what has suceeded for any growers here as I'm looking into the best soil mixes, any comments would be appreciated.
Frank
N.Illinois



#5538 From: frank lawrence <naturalimages11@...>
Date: Mon Dec 14, 2009 12:06 am
Subject: Re: [Native Gardening] Native seed propagating.
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Yes April, I plan on buying native seed which should be ready to go by early March. I collect seed every year but I broadcast it in the fall in my clients yards. This year the only seed I kept was Culvers root. Its currently not clean as its still a bit moist but stored outside.

We abuse the land because we regard it as a commodity belonging to us. When we see land as a community to which we belong, we may begin to use it with love and respect.
Aldo Leopold, A Sand County Almanac


--- On Sun, 12/13/09, April Hughes <ahughes798@...> wrote:

From: April Hughes <ahughes798@...>
Subject: Re: [Native Gardening] Native seed propagating.
To: nativegardening@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sunday, December 13, 2009, 5:54 PM

 
Spring will be too late for most native plant seed, especially in a greenhouse environment, they need cold/moist stratification. 
I plant my seed now or around the solstice, in styrofoam cups(though you could do it through late Jan., early Feb.)with lots of holes in them, enclosed in a large baggie, using cheap potting soil I get from Jewel at around $2.00/10 lbs. Soil should be moist.  Then I chuck the whole mess outside and let nature take it's course.  When it starts warming up, you'll have to open the baggie more and more so the seedlings don't bake.    

Antiquis temporibus, nati tibi similes in rupibus ventosissimis exponebantur ad necem.




From: naturalimages11 <naturalimages11@ yahoo.com>
To: nativegardening@ yahoogroups. com
Sent: Sun, December 13, 2009 5:27:03 PM
Subject: [Native Gardening] Native seed propagating.

 
I will have acess next Sping to a renovated Greenhouse and plan on trying to start some native seeds in containers. Never gave it a try but did take Propagation in college so I'm aware of most the basics. Would like to hear what has suceeded for any growers here as I'm looking into the best soil mixes, any comments would be appreciated.
Frank
N.Illinois



#5537 From: April Hughes <ahughes798@...>
Date: Sun Dec 13, 2009 11:54 pm
Subject: Re: [Native Gardening] Native seed propagating.
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Spring will be too late for most native plant seed, especially in a greenhouse environment, they need cold/moist stratification. 
I plant my seed now or around the solstice, in styrofoam cups(though you could do it through late Jan., early Feb.)with lots of holes in them, enclosed in a large baggie, using cheap potting soil I get from Jewel at around $2.00/10 lbs. Soil should be moist.  Then I chuck the whole mess outside and let nature take it's course.  When it starts warming up, you'll have to open the baggie more and more so the seedlings don't bake.    

Antiquis temporibus, nati tibi similes in rupibus ventosissimis exponebantur ad necem.




From: naturalimages11 <naturalimages11@...>
To: nativegardening@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sun, December 13, 2009 5:27:03 PM
Subject: [Native Gardening] Native seed propagating.

 

I will have acess next Sping to a renovated Greenhouse and plan on trying to start some native seeds in containers. Never gave it a try but did take Propagation in college so I'm aware of most the basics. Would like to hear what has suceeded for any growers here as I'm looking into the best soil mixes, any comments would be appreciated.
Frank
N.Illinois


#5536 From: "naturalimages11" <naturalimages11@...>
Date: Sun Dec 13, 2009 11:27 pm
Subject: Native seed propagating.
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I will have acess next Sping to a renovated Greenhouse and plan on trying to
start some native seeds in containers. Never gave it a try but did take
Propagation in college so I'm aware of most the basics. Would like to hear what
has suceeded for any growers here as I'm looking into the best soil mixes, any
comments would be appreciated.
Frank
N.Illinois

#5535 From: Bill Hilton Jr. (EDUCATION) <education@...>
Date: Fri Dec 11, 2009 10:56 pm
Subject: Hilton Pond 12/01/09 (Rufous Hummingbird)
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We were delighted today to travel to Moore SC, where we captured a very colorful
Rufous Hummingbird--only our second adult male in 18 years of banding vagrant
hummers. We've devoted the 1-11 December 2009 installment of "This Week at
Hilton Pond" to this little bird who's far from where we might expect him to be
as winter approaches. To view the photo essay, please visit
http://www.hiltonpond.org/ThisWeek091201.html . While there, scroll down for a
list of birds banded or recaptured locally, as well as some miscellaneous nature
notes.

Happy Nature Watching!

BILL

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BILL HILTON JR. Executive Director
Hilton Pond Center for Piedmont Natural History
1432 DeVinney Road, York, South Carolina 29745 USA
(803) 684-5852

The mission of Hilton Pond Center for Piedmont Natural History is "to conserve
plants, animals, habitats, and other natural components of the Piedmont Region
of the eastern United States through observation, scientific study, and
education for students of all ages.od (details on Web site).

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#5534 From: Bill Hilton Jr. (EDUCATION) <education@...>
Date: Tue Dec 8, 2009 2:16 am
Subject: Hilton Pond 11/22/09 (Wetlands & Watersheds)
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No matter where we live, wetlands are and watersheds are important to understand
and protect. That's one reason we've been working with a "sister center" in West
Virginia as it tries an innovative way for people, business, and nature to live
in harmony. To view our photo essay about flora, fauna, and habitats of the New
River Birding & Nature Center, please visit our 22-30 November 2009 installment
of "This Week at Hilton Pond" at http://www.hiltonpond.org/ThisWeek091122.html

While on the page, don't forget to scroll down for our usual list of birds
banded or recaptured during the period, including a rather old White-throated
Sparrow from up north somewhere.

Happy Nature Watching!

BILL

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EDUCATION PROGRAM
BILL HILTON JR. Executive Director
Hilton Pond Center for Piedmont Natural History
1432 DeVinney Road, York, South Carolina 29745 USA
(803) 684-5852

The mission of Hilton Pond Center for Piedmont Natural History is "to conserve
plants, animals, habitats, and other natural components of the Piedmont Region
of the eastern United States through observation, scientific study, and
education for students of all ages.od (details on Web site).

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#5533 From: David Cook <ravenlive1963@...>
Date: Mon Nov 30, 2009 7:44 pm
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#5532 From: Bill Hilton Jr. (EDUCATION) <education@...>
Date: Sun Nov 29, 2009 7:27 pm
Subject: Hilton Pond 11/18/09 (Hummingbird Results)
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Did your Ruby-throated Hummingbirds arrive slowly in 2009? Did you think you
might have your worst year ever for hosting these little balls of fluff at
backyard feeders? Did ruby-throats finally arrive with a vengeance in late
summer? If so, you had something in common with our banding efforts in the
Carolina Piedmont, where things started extremely slow and finished
exceptionally fast. To read about the downs and ups of our unusual 2009
hummingbird season, please visit the 18-21 November 2009 edition of "This Week
at Hilton Pond" at http://www.hiltonpond.org/ThisWeek091118.html . We include
some hummer photos you may find of interest.

Happy (Thanksgiving) Nature Watching!

BILL

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EDUCATION PROGRAM
BILL HILTON JR. Executive Director
Hilton Pond Center for Piedmont Natural History
1432 DeVinney Road, York, South Carolina 29745 USA
(803) 684-5852

The mission of Hilton Pond Center for Piedmont Natural History is "to conserve
plants, animals, habitats, and other natural components of the Piedmont Region
of the eastern United States through observation, scientific study, and
education for students of all ages.od (details on Web site).

=======

#5531 From: Marielle Anzelone <beachplum@...>
Date: Wed Nov 18, 2009 6:36 pm
Subject: VOTE for NYC Wildflower Week's new video website
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NYC Wildflower Week is in a competition to get a fancy new video/community component to our website.

You can help!   If you’d like to participate:

Register here:      http://youtopia.uservoice.com/signup
Vote here (you can give us all 3 of your votes):    http://tiny.cc/NQVDO

Feel free to forward via facebook/email, etc.  Our facebook page:   http://tiny.cc/eWWRr

Thank you!

Marielle
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#5530 From: frank lawrence <naturalimages11@...>
Date: Tue Nov 17, 2009 2:30 am
Subject: Re: [Native Gardening] Pawpaw search
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It grows wild at the nature preserve I take care of and many times i have tried to get the fruit before the critters do but they always beat me to it.

We abuse the land because we regard it as a commodity belonging to us. When we see land as a community to which we belong, we may begin to use it with love and respect.
Aldo Leopold, A Sand County Almanac


--- On Mon, 11/16/09, Ben Praeger <benpraeger@...> wrote:

From: Ben Praeger <benpraeger@...>
Subject: [Native Gardening] Pawpaw search
To: nativegardening@yahoogroups.com
Date: Monday, November 16, 2009, 8:27 PM

 
Hi, I am looking for some pawpaw fruit, so call me at 7063382487 or email me at benpraeger@yahoo. com.

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#5529 From: "Ben Praeger" <benpraeger@...>
Date: Tue Nov 17, 2009 2:27 am
Subject: Pawpaw search
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Hi, I am looking for some pawpaw fruit, so call me at 7063382487 or email me at
benpraeger@....

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#5528 From: frank lawrence <naturalimages11@...>
Date: Tue Nov 17, 2009 2:12 am
Subject: Re: [Native Gardening] Saving Native Plant Seeds
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Good article !!!

We abuse the land because we regard it as a commodity belonging to us. When we see land as a community to which we belong, we may begin to use it with love and respect.
Aldo Leopold, A Sand County Almanac


--- On Mon, 11/16/09, Marielle Anzelone <beachplum@...> wrote:

From: Marielle Anzelone <beachplum@...>
Subject: [Native Gardening] Saving Native Plant Seeds
To: nativegardening@yahoogroups.com
Date: Monday, November 16, 2009, 1:06 PM

 

A Hunt for Seeds to Save Species, Perhaps by Helping Them Move

Botanists debate benefits of assisted migration

http://www.nytimes. com/2009/ 11/10/science/ earth/10plant. html

--
Marielle


#5527 From: Marielle Anzelone <beachplum@...>
Date: Mon Nov 16, 2009 7:06 pm
Subject: Saving Native Plant Seeds
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A Hunt for Seeds to Save Species, Perhaps by Helping Them Move

Botanists debate benefits of assisted migration

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/11/10/science/earth/10plant.html

--
Marielle

#5526 From: "Bill Hilton Jr. (EDUCATION)" <education@...>
Date: Wed Nov 11, 2009 1:19 am
Subject: Hilton Pond 11/01/09 (Autumn Potpourri)
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By late October and early November, nature is getting downright serious about
preparing for winter. For a sampling of phenological happenings that occur in
late autumn, please see our "This Week at Hilton Pond" photo essay for 1-10
November at http://www.hiltonpond.org/ThisWeek091101.html . There's something
for almost everyone--Songbirds, hawks, pollinators, wildflowers, and info about
this year's abundant mast crop.

There's also a bonus photo and story about a Great Egret that's a long way from
where it was originally captured--plus our usual list of birds banded and
recaptured during the period--so please don't forget to scroll down the entire
page.

And as a reminder, the final deadline for our 2010 midwinter Neotropical
Hummingbird Expeditions is 24 November 2009, so you still have time to join us
for an unforgettable experience in countries that in January and February are
warm, sunny, and filled with exotic flora and fauna.

Happy Nature Watching!

BILL

=====

EDUCATION PROGRAM
BILL HILTON JR. Executive Director
Hilton Pond Center for Piedmont Natural History
1432 DeVinney Road, York, South Carolina 29745 USA
(803) 684-5852

The mission of Hilton Pond Center for Piedmont Natural History is "to conserve
plants, animals, habitats, and other natural components of the Piedmont Region
of the eastern United States through observation, scientific study, and
education for students of all ages.od (details on Web site).

=======

#5525 From: April Hughes <ahughes798@...>
Date: Tue Nov 10, 2009 1:04 am
Subject: Thirst For Water [1 Attachment]
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From: April Hughes <ahughes798@...>
Subject: [EquineAmity] Fw: Thirst For Water [1 Attachment]
To: "Daniel Kurtz" <dkurtz@...>, equineamity@yahoogroups.com, dakotagirly@..., "Phillip Hughes" <philthy1@...>, caryndak@...
Date: Monday, November 9, 2009, 7:00 PM

 
water is the new oil.

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