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Re: The fundamental question is

--- In ontheoriginofspecies@y..., tarh7777 <no_reply@y...> wrote:
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> I understand that the evidence is that the universe is expanding but
> the point I was trying to make was that it did have a starting point
> which I understand was about 35 billion years ago. At that time the
> universe started as a single point and of infinite temperature and
> mass in the middle of nothing. It has been expanding ever since.
> What existed prior to BB, who knows, but nothing crossed the line (or
> point) separating the time before and the time after BB. It is thus
> the beginning of everything with our universe and as far as we are
> concerned nothing existed prior to it. I think we are agreeing quite
> abit here.

According to the Big Bang Theory, as well as Relativity, time is a
dimension like the other spatial dimensions, such that the singularity
that expanded into our universe was originally dimensionless with
regard to time. If time has no dimension, it is unmeasurable;
therefore, there can be no "before" the Big Bang, because before is a
relative measure of time and implies dimensionality to something that
is dimensionless.





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... I understand that the evidence is that the universe is expanding but the point I was trying to make was that it did have a starting point which I...
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... According to the Big Bang Theory, as well as Relativity, time is a dimension like the other spatial dimensions, such that the singularity that expanded...
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... that ... came ... existed " ... this ... of ... How do you mean "re-consideration of the 2nd law"? If you are concerned with there continuing to be order...
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... I have pored over my thermodynamics texts and can't find any of the above mentioned equations with regard to Entropy or the 2nd Law. For that matter, I...
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... I think it's important to distinguish the time arrow and entropy from our perceptions about disorder. For Hawking's one broken coffee cup, I could give...
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... So, in other words, the time arrow is along ever increasing complexity in the universe. This, I think, matches with the examples I've given, that while...
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... I'd say you're mostly correct, with the exception that it would be more accurate to say that the input energy is greater than the AVAILABLE output, since...
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... infinity ... randomness ... the ... = ... power ... any ... the ... For ... that ... Of course not! Randomness is not a rigorous concept! But if you ...
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... The point I was trying to make was that Entropy and randomness are NOT the same thing. Entropy is a state function defined by dS = dQ/T, it is not some...
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Sorry, I got my wires crossed. It was that guy chafihar. <br><br>But I disagree:<br><br>"If it is being carried out by beings - alien or otherwise - that exist...
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