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Re: [pugetsoundchristiansingles] Re: Antioch on 700 Club for Cultural Diversity

That's awesome Wayne. :)

Wayne <celebok@...> wrote:
Oh, I just had another funny memory that I just have to mention.

A few years ago, I visited a church in Wenatchee (I just happened to
be there on a Sunday morning in the middle of a road trip), and I
noticed they had a few vertical banners on the walls and brochures
in the bulletins that said something to the effect of being a church
for all people, and they had pictures of black people and Hispanic
people and Asian people, different ages, etc. But then I looked
around the congregation, and everyone was white! I just had to
laugh!

--Wayne

--- In pugetsoundchristiansingles@yahoogroups.com, "Wayne"
<celebok@...> wrote:
>
> Well, the arguments I got about the lack of interest in changing
> came after I posted my original message, so I was basically going
> into it blind when I started this topic. I honestly didn't expect
> to see any resistance to the idea of going multicultural, other
than
> people not knowing how to do it. So it's been interesting to
learn
> about other churches' reasons for not embracing it. I can totally
> see your point that many churches, especially older,
> more "traditional" ones, wouldn't be willing to change their
> styles. It's something they grew up with, and to change it just
> wouldn't feel like... church. My guess is that if you were to ask
> those people, they'd SAY they're open to other cultures joining
> their church, but they'd pretty much expect anyone who comes in to
> embrace their existing worship style. So that would be their most
> obvious problem area.
>
> I'm still not entirely convinced that a static worship style is
the
> only barrier, though. Even if a church starts adopting varying
> worship styles, I think they'd still have the snowball problem to
> get past. When I look at the predominantly Asian-American church
I
> went to in California, as well as this one Asian-American church
in
> Bellevue that I've visited a few times, and I look at their
worship
> style and preaching style and everything else about the service...
I
> can see absolutely NO reason for it to remain 95% Asian... other
> than the fact that it already IS. They welcome anyone who's not
> Asian and treat them just like they're one of them, but it's like,
> why would you go to that church, when there are plenty of other
> churches in the area that are similar to that one in all other
> aspects, but without the screwy ethnic ratio? So that type of
> church would have to take drastic measures in order to become
> multicultural, and I think they're mostly just not convinced that
> such action is warranted or necessary.
>
> It's weird, though, after attending Antioch for five years, it's
> like a shock to me whenever I walk into a predominantly Asian
> church. I'm like, my gosh, they're still stuck in this barbaric
> unicultural state? Then I have to remind myself, the Asian
> Christian community didn't change; I simply left it!
>
> --Wayne



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Mon Feb 11, 2008 2:55 pm

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This morning, Antioch Bible Church and Pastor Hutch were featured on the 700 Club as an example of a multicultural church. (Click here for the article and...
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Feb 5, 2008
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I agree with you and disagree with you Mr. Wayne. Yes there is a snowball effect but inside the church you need to have an atmosphere for each of the different...
Chica Christ
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Feb 5, 2008
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Well, the thing is, none of this was covered in that 700 Club segment. The main message was simply, this is the way church should be. My guess is that most...
Wayne
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Feb 6, 2008
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wow this is a deep topic! i am from Seattle, grew up at First A.M.E. church ( which stands for African Methodist Episcopal, yes Methodist the frozen chosen)...
sherrill vaughan
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Feb 7, 2008
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That's awesome Sherrill, thanks for sharing! I agree, so much of it is about what each of us are doing, what the Pastor is doing, etc. It's not about...
Chica Christ
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Feb 7, 2008
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Thanks so much for sharing this! This is really encouraging to hear. I especially like how your church partnered with several other churches and ministries...
Wayne
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Feb 10, 2008
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I'm tracking ya. That wasn't how I read your original email. :) I agree with you but maybe it'll start raising the question and people can start thinking about...
Chica Christ
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Well, the arguments I got about the lack of interest in changing came after I posted my original message, so I was basically going into it blind when I started...
Wayne
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Feb 10, 2008
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Oh, I just had another funny memory that I just have to mention. A few years ago, I visited a church in Wenatchee (I just happened to be there on a Sunday...
Wayne
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That's awesome Wayne. :) Wayne <celebok@...> wrote: Oh, I just had another funny memory that I just have to mention. A few years ago, I...
Chica Christ
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Feb 11, 2008
2:55 pm

Interesting, yeah. I think about that in a way myself...though it's not necessarily the ethnic cultural aspect...I can't imagine going back to one of my...
Chica Christ
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Feb 11, 2008
2:54 pm

Hehehehe, that's definitely a good point about churches with "Chinese" or "Korean" or "Japanese" in the name! I'd almost forgotten about those! :-) --Wayne ...
Wayne
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My older kids 21 and 23 love to go to Korean church and actually for a year or so we all went to the Korean Full Gospel Church in Colorado Springs. Of course,...
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Oh boy... don't even get me started on my experiences at Korean churches! Hehehe. :-) --Wayne ... a year or so we all went to the Korean Full Gospel Church...
Wayne
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