Bendicion santeros mayores y menores..

alafia to  all

I just have a question in particular about candles. Does it have a
meaning when the candle glass brakes or when it turns black around it.

I'm asking because I been lighting candles (two since I have santo) to
my olokun and this is the third time one of glass brakes and it has
like a shadow of a man and a woman. It is really weird.

waiting for a response if any abures have any feedback i'll appreciated.

Thanks,

Omo Obba

Bendicion santeros mayores y menores..

alafia to  all

I just have a question in particular about candles. Does it have a
meaning when the candle glass brakes or when it turns black around it.

I'm asking because I been lighting candles (two since I have santo) to
my olokun and this is the third time one of glass brakes and it has
like a shadow of a man and a woman. It is really weird.

waiting for a response if any abures have any feedback i'll appreciated.

Thanks,

Omo Obba

Out of curiosity (being Nosy) why are you lighting so many Candles to Olokun? 
When you say you have santo.. means you received Olokun or you did Kari Ocha?

oni okoto.



In a message dated 04/02/08 18:17:13 Eastern Daylight Time, oshun31806@...
writes:
Bendicion santeros mayores y menores..

alafia to all

I just have a question in particular about candles. Does it have a
meaning when the candle glass brakes or when it turns black around it.

I'm asking because I been lighting candles (two since I have santo) to
my olokun and this is the third time one of glass brakes and it has
like a shadow of a man and a woman. It is really weird.

waiting for a response if any abures have any feedback i'll appreciated.

Thanks,

Omo Obba





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Alafia,

   Yes, I do have Kari ocha made.  Olokun is an orisha that talked a lot on my
ita and I wasnt I don't some of what he asked me to do, anyways l dont light
candles all  the time but once in a while I do.

   thanks,

   omo Obba






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check with the your spirit because olokun is not only orisha is also spirit
and it look like she triying to show something that is going on in your house
it  seem that somebody throw you something,  i myself trust olokun like it is
my ganga she let me know when something is wrong.  let me know is somethng
change in your house or life and i will tell you what to  do



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Claudia,

You need to realize that Olokun represents stability and firmness, if this is
something that you currently do not have in your life or your path of Ocha,
Olokun is trying to send you that message.  You really need to figure out which
path to chose and walk that path.  Stay with it and bring stability into your
life.  Once you have chosen your path, you need to make your intentions known
and go full steam ahead.  Also check your health, the shadow in the candle
speaks of bad physical health, blood related.

ANDREAS

----- Original Message ----
From: Claudia Salas <oshun31806@...>
To: santeriaonline@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, April 3, 2008 10:04:19 AM
Subject: [Santeria Online] Re: Candles

                 Alafia,

   Yes, I do have Kari ocha made.  Olokun is an orisha that talked a lot on my
ita and I wasnt I don't some of what he asked me to do, anyways l dont light
candles all  the time but once in a while I do.

   thanks,

   omo Obba





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huh?? Olokun is also a spirit??

Why do people always think right away that something was thrown at them?  Right
away it's brujeria.  How are you gonna tell her what to do against a brujeria
that you don't even know exists?

If she's unsure, she should get Obi and ask olokun what's wrong, just remember..
in Olokun,  Itawa is the firmest letra there is!

Andreas

----- Original Message ----
From: "cinis7@..." <cinis7@...>
To: santeriaonline@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, April 3, 2008 10:25:57 AM
Subject: Re: [Santeria Online] Re: Candles

                 check with the your spirit because olokun is not only orisha is
also spirit
and it look like she triying to show something that is going on in your house
it  seem that somebody throw you something,  i myself trust olokun like it is
my ganga she let me know when something is wrong.  let me know is somethng
change in your house or life and i will tell you what to  do

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Well if you light a candle to Olokun put some thought into why your doing it..
and then determine why the candles are coming out the way they are.

I know people who keep lighting candles until the candle bottle comes out white.
White is a light of progress.

The reason why I asked is because it is SAID that olokun is one of the orisha's
that is not to be bothered too much.  She is for your stability, health, wealth
and all the ire that may come your way.



In a message dated 04/03/08 14:06:24 Eastern Daylight Time, oshun31806@...
writes:
Alafia,

Yes, I do have Kari ocha made. Olokun is an orisha that talked a lot on my ita
and I wasnt I don't some of what he asked me to do, anyways l dont light candles
all the time but once in a while I do.

thanks,

omo Obba


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Ache.. and Ita is one letra that I HATE to get... LOL.. I feel like the orishas
are not being straight with me.  TELL ME YES OR NO.. nothing in between.

LOL..

oni okoto.



In a message dated 04/03/08 15:34:00 Eastern Daylight Time, hurthocon@...
writes:
huh?? Olokun is also a spirit??

Why do people always think right away that something was thrown at them? Right
away it's brujeria. How are you gonna tell her what to do against a brujeria
that you don't even know exists?

If she's unsure, she should get Obi and ask olokun what's wrong, just remember..
in Olokun, Itawa is the firmest letra there is!

Andreas


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Alafia:

I believe what our member is stating is that Olokun is associated with
Egun, i.e., spirit.
There are hundreds of thousands of our ancestors at the bottom of the
Ocean.  I was also told this about Olokun.  In fact, my Iya de Olokun,
who has over 60 years at this point, 50 years when I received Olokun,
told me to keep my Olokun near my boveda.  So, yes, there is a strong
connection between Olokun and Egun (spirits).

One...
Oba Anya, Oni-Oni

Hurtado Thompson wrote:
>
> huh?? Olokun is also a spirit??
>
> Why do people always think right away that something was thrown at
> them? Right away it's brujeria. How are you gonna tell her what to do
> against a brujeria that you don't even know exists?
>
> If she's unsure, she should get Obi and ask olokun what's wrong, just
> remember.. in Olokun, Itawa is the firmest letra there is!
>
> Andreas
>
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: "cinis7@... <mailto:cinis7%40aol.com>" <cinis7@...
> <mailto:cinis7%40aol.com>>
> To: santeriaonline@yahoogroups.com
> <mailto:santeriaonline%40yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Thursday, April 3, 2008 10:25:57 AM
> Subject: Re: [Santeria Online] Re: Candles
>
> check with the your spirit because olokun is not only orisha is also
> spirit
> and it look like she triying to show something that is going on in
> your house
> it seem that somebody throw you something, i myself trust olokun like
> it is
> my ganga she let me know when something is wrong. let me know is somethng
> change in your house or life and i will tell you what to do
>
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Lets be honest with one another... What are orishas?  They are spirits.  They
are enlightened (as I have been told) spirits.  They are a source of energy.

oni okoto.



In a message dated 04/03/08 17:22:05 Eastern Daylight Time, awo1@...
writes:
Alafia:

I believe what our member is stating is that Olokun is associated with
Egun, i.e., spirit.
There are hundreds of thousands of our ancestors at the bottom of the
Ocean. I was also told this about Olokun. In fact, my Iya de Olokun,
who has over 60 years at this point, 50 years when I received Olokun,
told me to keep my Olokun near my boveda. So, yes, there is a strong
connection between Olokun and Egun (spirits).

One...
Oba Anya, Oni-Oni

Hurtado Thompson wrote:
>
> huh?? Olokun is also a spirit??
>
> Why do people always think right away that something was thrown at
> them? Right away it's brujeria. How are you gonna tell her what to do
> against a brujeria that you don't even know exists?
>
> If she's unsure, she should get Obi and ask olokun what's wrong, just
> remember.. in Olokun, Itawa is the firmest letra there is!
>
> Andreas
>
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: "cinis7@... <mailto:cinis7%40aol.com>" <cinis7@...
> <mailto:cinis7%40aol.com>>
> To: santeriaonline@yahoogroups.com
> <mailto:santeriaonline%40yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Thursday, April 3, 2008 10:25:57 AM
> Subject: Re: [Santeria Online] Re: Candles
>
> check with the your spirit because olokun is not only orisha is also
> spirit
> and it look like she triying to show something that is going on in
> your house
> it seem that somebody throw you something, i myself trust olokun like
> it is
> my ganga she let me know when something is wrong. let me know is somethng
> change in your house or life and i will tell you what to do
>
> ************ **Planning your summer road trip? Check out AOL Travel
> Guides.
> (http://travel. aol.com/travel- guide/united- states?ncid=
> aoltrv0003000000 0016)
>
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Thanks for everybody that replied to my post ! I appreciated it and
I understand that probably everyone has their very own opinion on
what the candles might mean.. I really do respect each of your
opinions and suggestions...
I didn't mean to start up something on what olokun is or what is
not..

Thanks again !!!

--- In santeriaonline@yahoogroups.com, "Oni Okoto" <oniokoto@...>
wrote:
>
> Lets be honest with one another... What are orishas?  They are
spirits.  They are enlightened (as I have been told) spirits.  They
are a source of energy.
>
> oni okoto.
>
>
>
> In a message dated 04/03/08 17:22:05 Eastern Daylight Time,
awo1@... writes:
> Alafia:
>
> I believe what our member is stating is that Olokun is associated
with
> Egun, i.e., spirit.
> There are hundreds of thousands of our ancestors at the bottom of
the
> Ocean. I was also told this about Olokun. In fact, my Iya de
Olokun,
> who has over 60 years at this point, 50 years when I received
Olokun,
> told me to keep my Olokun near my boveda. So, yes, there is a
strong
> connection between Olokun and Egun (spirits).
>
> One...
> Oba Anya, Oni-Oni
>
> Hurtado Thompson wrote:
> >
> > huh?? Olokun is also a spirit??
> >
> > Why do people always think right away that something was thrown
at
> > them? Right away it's brujeria. How are you gonna tell her what
to do
> > against a brujeria that you don't even know exists?
> >
> > If she's unsure, she should get Obi and ask olokun what's wrong,
just
> > remember.. in Olokun, Itawa is the firmest letra there is!
> >
> > Andreas
> >
> > ----- Original Message ----
> > From: "cinis7@... <mailto:cinis7%40aol.com>" <cinis7@...
> > <mailto:cinis7%40aol.com>>
> > To: santeriaonline@yahoogroups.com
> > <mailto:santeriaonline%40yahoogroups.com>
> > Sent: Thursday, April 3, 2008 10:25:57 AM
> > Subject: Re: [Santeria Online] Re: Candles
> >
> > check with the your spirit because olokun is not only orisha is
also
> > spirit
> > and it look like she triying to show something that is going on
in
> > your house
> > it seem that somebody throw you something, i myself trust olokun
like
> > it is
> > my ganga she let me know when something is wrong. let me know is
somethng
> > change in your house or life and i will tell you what to do
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first olokun is the stability all the iguoros. and if you know about the
religion you should know also what you do with the olokun water and what you can
do with it.  that is why i said that and if in a candle she seen face it
means one thing



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Last night I had to dreams one was that I was battling three grey figures and
it
was a very intense fight and all of the sudden my seven year old son yells out
for me to
come to him, I ran over and he was sound asleep, I gave him a kiss and went
back to sleep when I got to my bed I said a prayer for him to be protected
and then I realized that my body was aching as if I had a major fight.  then
I had a dream that I lit candles in two groups and I was there with someone
else just admiring the way the candles were burning with a golden Flame the
two groups of candles became two humiod figures glowing a golden color and
they started to mimic everything we did, every time the man that was with me
would tap on the wall the one next to him would tap on the wall this one was
blond but with a golden glow and the other one was albino also had a golden
glow and this one I saw every detail of her skin color and every her
eyelids, she was almost blind but had a great sense of hearing she was
capturing everything that was going on around her, as the man who was with
me was entertained by tapping on the wall and making the other one do what
he did I sat down in front of the albino one and this is when I noticed that
she was blind because as I was talking to her she was looking for the sound
and she apologized and said that she was a little blind, I told her don't
worry sometimes I have a little trouble seeing also, she told me that I was
very polite and that this was a blessing, I replied to her that this is the
way my mother brought me up to respect all especially the spirits. As we
were talking I could see that she was very cold to the point that she was
shivering then all of the sudden she leaned over to me as if to tell me
something in the ear and she penetrated me we became one and I started to
feel very cold also shivering and the man that was with me saw this and sat
down as in a state of shock I told him that I was very cold then all of the
sudden I heard a voice come from with in me that she felt nice and warn next
to my heart and he tried to get the other one to do the same thing but all
he got was a hug, then all of the sudden my seven year old son walks into my
room and
wakes me up and I found that I was cold and sweating at the same time.  I
don't know if this dream has anything to do with anything that is going on
but the last dream saw very beautiful just seeing them convert from candles
glowing gold to humans with a golden glow and seeing them was so very
special.

any input will be appreciated.

Are u in a custody debate about ur son? I am sorry if i'm wrong. I feel the
female spirit is confirming a soft mount. U worry about ur son a lot, Obatala
appears as an albino sometimes; ask for clarity & light for this matter. Hence
all the candles. I hope that helps, i'm sorry if not.
Alafia mis abures
P
Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

I have read on a certain web page that Shangos beads are red and black
with one large white bead that he recieved from Obatala. When i see
his beads in botanicas they are always red and white. Is this because
of different traditions or parts of the world?
D.

In a message dated 4/13/2008 5:56:01 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
lassietemuertes@... writes:

I have  read on a certain web page that Shangos beads are red and black
with one  large white bead that he recieved from Obatala. When i see
his beads in  botanicas they are always red and white. Is this because
of different  traditions or parts of the world?



I've never heard of that being his colors of elekes,  can you please  quote
the source or link the page?  To my knowledge Shango's bead are  always red and
white.



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Hi D, Shango beads are always alternating red and white regardless of
tradition. That is the same all over the New World, including Brazil,
Cuba and Trinidad. I believe what you read on that web page was a
simple typo. The eleke they describe belongs to Elegua or Elegba. One
single white bead that Obatala gave him may be a refference to the
author's own personal tradition. Elegua is always predominantly
alternating black and red. Depending on the tradition some cultures
(and some houses) do include white beads, as well.

On a ritual level, one of the most important songs reffering to Shango
during an initiation does make refference to "red-and-white always
together". It also refers to undying loyalty between Shango and
Obatala. Red is the color of blood and, thus, life -Shango. White is
the color of peace and purity and, thus, Obatala. The white in Shango's
elekes are in honor of that relationship.

Black is a color only associated with "mysterious" and difficult to
understand Orishas. Elegua is most definitely considered "difficult."
Shango on the other hand is pretty easy to understand and so black
would never really be a suitable color.

I hope that helps.
Felix, Omi Saide


--- In santeriaonline@yahoogroups.com, "lassietemuertes"
<lassietemuertes@...> wrote:
>
> I have read on a certain web page that Shangos beads are red and
black
> with one large white bead that he recieved from Obatala. When i see
> his beads in botanicas they are always red and white. Is this because
> of different traditions or parts of the world?
> D.
>

Shango beads are usually red and white....you have to becareful about where you
get your information from....
IN THE SPIRIT OF SHARING INFORMATION....

MAXINE


To: santeriaonline@...: lassietemuertes@...: Sun, 13
Apr 2008 09:55:44 +0000Subject: [Santeria Online] collares




I have read on a certain web page that Shangos beads are red and black with one
large white bead that he recieved from Obatala. When i see his beads in
botanicas they are always red and white. Is this because of different traditions
or parts of the world?D.






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Alafia Obaomisaide:

I agree with your statements here, this is how I was trained as well.
However, I have seen elekes de Eleggua as black and white - very
unusual, but I know a Babalorisa who gives this to his uninitiated
godchildren.

One....
Oba Anya, Oni-Oni

obaomisaide wrote:
>
> Hi D, Shango beads are always alternating red and white regardless of
> tradition. That is the same all over the New World, including Brazil,
> Cuba and Trinidad. I believe what you read on that web page was a
> simple typo. The eleke they describe belongs to Elegua or Elegba. One
> single white bead that Obatala gave him may be a refference to the
> author's own personal tradition. Elegua is always predominantly
> alternating black and red. Depending on the tradition some cultures
> (and some houses) do include white beads, as well.
>
> On a ritual level, one of the most important songs reffering to Shango
> during an initiation does make refference to "red-and-white always
> together". It also refers to undying loyalty between Shango and
> Obatala. Red is the color of blood and, thus, life -Shango. White is
> the color of peace and purity and, thus, Obatala. The white in Shango's
> elekes are in honor of that relationship.
>
> Black is a color only associated with "mysterious" and difficult to
> understand Orishas. Elegua is most definitely considered "difficult."
> Shango on the other hand is pretty easy to understand and so black
> would never really be a suitable color.
>
> I hope that helps.
> Felix, Omi Saide
>
> --- In santeriaonline@yahoogroups.com
> <mailto:santeriaonline%40yahoogroups.com>, "lassietemuertes"
> <lassietemuertes@...> wrote:
> >
> > I have read on a certain web page that Shangos beads are red and
> black
> > with one large white bead that he recieved from Obatala. When i see
> > his beads in botanicas they are always red and white. Is this because
> > of different traditions or parts of the world?
> > D.
> >
>
>


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That depends on the road of the Elegguá. For example the cuentas of Elegguá Afrá
are black and white.
   Iyawó Ollaguere

OnyOny <awo1@...> wrote:
           Alafia Obaomisaide:

I agree with your statements here, this is how I was trained as well.
However, I have seen elekes de Eleggua as black and white - very
unusual, but I know a Babalorisa who gives this to his uninitiated
godchildren.

One....
Oba Anya, Oni-Oni

obaomisaide wrote:
>
> Hi D, Shango beads are always alternating red and white regardless of
> tradition. That is the same all over the New World, including Brazil,
> Cuba and Trinidad. I believe what you read on that web page was a
> simple typo. The eleke they describe belongs to Elegua or Elegba. One
> single white bead that Obatala gave him may be a refference to the
> author's own personal tradition. Elegua is always predominantly
> alternating black and red. Depending on the tradition some cultures
> (and some houses) do include white beads, as well.
>
> On a ritual level, one of the most important songs reffering to Shango
> during an initiation does make refference to "red-and-white always
> together". It also refers to undying loyalty between Shango and
> Obatala. Red is the color of blood and, thus, life -Shango. White is
> the color of peace and purity and, thus, Obatala. The white in Shango's
> elekes are in honor of that relationship.
>
> Black is a color only associated with "mysterious" and difficult to
> understand Orishas. Elegua is most definitely considered "difficult."
> Shango on the other hand is pretty easy to understand and so black
> would never really be a suitable color.
>
> I hope that helps.
> Felix, Omi Saide
>
> --- In santeriaonline@yahoogroups.com
> <mailto:santeriaonline%40yahoogroups.com>, "lassietemuertes"
> <lassietemuertes@...> wrote:
> >
> > I have read on a certain web page that Shangos beads are red and
> black
> > with one large white bead that he recieved from Obatala. When i see
> > his beads in botanicas they are always red and white. Is this because
> > of different traditions or parts of the world?
> > D.
> >
>
>

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I have seen Alaguana black and white. Head  Orisha.



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I have seen Alaguana crowned with white and black elekes




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In a message dated 4/13/2008 6:58:09 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
iyawocita@... writes:

That  depends on the road of the Elegguá. For example the cuentas of Elegguá
Afrá  are black and white.
Iyawó Ollaguere


Iyawo, I have seen Eshu Alagwana crowned with black and white  elekes



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Alafia,
this path may be the priest own .Aniki is red ,black and white but
then sometimes because of the taboo with red they leave it out.

-- In santeriaonline@yahoogroups.com, OnyOny <awo1@...> wrote:
>
> Alafia Obaomisaide:
>
> I agree with your statements here, this is how I was trained as well.
> However, I have seen elekes de Eleggua as black and white - very
> unusual, but I know a Babalorisa who gives this to his uninitiated
> godchildren.
>
> One....
> Oba Anya, Oni-Oni
>
> obaomisaide wrote:
> >
> > Hi D, Shango beads are always alternating red and white regardless of
> > tradition. That is the same all over the New World, including Brazil,
> > Cuba and Trinidad. I believe what you read on that web page was a
> > simple typo. The eleke they describe belongs to Elegua or Elegba. One
> > single white bead that Obatala gave him may be a refference to the
> > author's own personal tradition. Elegua is always predominantly
> > alternating black and red. Depending on the tradition some cultures
> > (and some houses) do include white beads, as well.
> >
> > On a ritual level, one of the most important songs reffering to Shango
> > during an initiation does make refference to "red-and-white always
> > together". It also refers to undying loyalty between Shango and
> > Obatala. Red is the color of blood and, thus, life -Shango. White is
> > the color of peace and purity and, thus, Obatala. The white in
Shango's
> > elekes are in honor of that relationship.
> >
> > Black is a color only associated with "mysterious" and difficult to
> > understand Orishas. Elegua is most definitely considered "difficult."
> > Shango on the other hand is pretty easy to understand and so black
> > would never really be a suitable color.
> >
> > I hope that helps.
> > Felix, Omi Saide
> >
> > --- In santeriaonline@yahoogroups.com
> > <mailto:santeriaonline%40yahoogroups.com>, "lassietemuertes"
> > <lassietemuertes@> wrote:
> > >
> > > I have read on a certain web page that Shangos beads are red and
> > black
> > > with one large white bead that he recieved from Obatala. When i see
> > > his beads in botanicas they are always red and white. Is this
because
> > > of different traditions or parts of the world?
> > > D.
> > >
> >
> >
>
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I have been looking for a while and cant find that webpage, sorry.




--- In santeriaonline@yahoogroups.com, Albee7447@... wrote:
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>
> In a message dated 4/13/2008 5:56:01 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
> lassietemuertes@... writes:
>
> I have  read on a certain web page that Shangos beads are red and
black
> with one  large white bead that he recieved from Obatala. When i
see
> his beads in  botanicas they are always red and white. Is this
because
> of different  traditions or parts of the world?
>
>
>
> I've never heard of that being his colors of elekes,  can you
please  quote
> the source or link the page?  To my knowledge Shango's bead are
always red and
> white.
>
>
>
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One should not use a website to measure the standard by which a religous
practice is followed.

lassietemuertes <lassietemuertes@...> wrote:          I have been looking
for a while and cant find that webpage, sorry.

--- In santeriaonline@yahoogroups.com, Albee7447@... wrote:
>
>
> In a message dated 4/13/2008 5:56:01 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
> lassietemuertes@... writes:
>
> I have read on a certain web page that Shangos beads are red and
black
> with one large white bead that he recieved from Obatala. When i
see
> his beads in botanicas they are always red and white. Is this
because
> of different traditions or parts of the world?
>
>
>
> I've never heard of that being his colors of elekes, can you
please quote
> the source or link the page? To my knowledge Shango's bead are
always red and
> white.
>
>
>
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