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#16522 From: Ii Saburou <logan@...>
Date: Fri Oct 1, 2004 10:16 pm
Subject: FW: Kurosawa Film Festival
tatsushu
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My dojo received this--I think it may interest others, if you are in the
area.

-Ii

---------- Forwarded message ----------
>Subject: Kurosawa Film Festival
>Date: Fri, 01 Oct 2004 10:08:00 -0400
>
>Please join us in celebrating the works of Akira Kurosawa at the First
>Annual Old Town Kurosawa Film Festival.  The festival will run Nov. 5-11 at
>the Old Town Theater, 815 1/2 King Street, Alexandria VA.  We'll be showing
>35 mm prints of three of Kurosawa's greatest works in rotation:  "Yojimbo,"
>  "Rashomon," and "The Seven Samurai."
>
>Please help make this a success by alerting your members to the Festival. 
>The theater's website is oldtowntheater.com and the Festival should be
>added to the website by this weekend.
>
>If I can answer any questions, please don't hesitate.
>
>Sincerely,
>
>David Bledsoe

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#16523 From: "Heidi Lyn" <akeakemai@...>
Date: Fri Oct 1, 2004 10:15 pm
Subject: Re: Japanese A&S
medbnalinnli...
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> For Heidi,
>
> FWIW, I've won enough mundane awards for my needlework & knitting, that
I don't care to have my work evaluated by someone who is
> that prejudiced and insecure.  I'd put money down that she probably
practiced intimidation to get her 'laurel', if what I have seen
> here holds true.  Folks like that are very brittle about something out of
their
own small box.   I don't even like looking into a
> box, much less living in one. Shudder.
>


Actually, I have never experienced the wretched Eurocentrism that other
honored list members have described in this thread. Everyone I remember
interacting with has either been very supportive or simply wanted to know
how I keep my trees alive.

It is entirely possible, however, that this is due to my (very strongly
established) tendency to simply ignore people who I believe are simply
narrow-minded. If someone attempted to make me feel badly for choosing a
Japanese art, it is entirely possible that I simply dismissed them as not worth
my attention (Laurel or no).

I share the frustration of those who would like to see the changes within the
society, but I also have to back Makiwara in that I don't believe it is
completely
neccessary. I also believe that there are those in any society who will try to
make you feel bad about your choices no matter what you do. (Just as an
example, my boyfriend has a 15th century Italian persona and get all kinds of
grief for being a fop, etc., also note the tendency for people to giver greif
because something is just "barely" in period - in period is in period - isn't
it?)

I like presenting my work because I can dismiss anything negative and focus
on those who come by and exclaim with delight and those who stop and pry
the equivalent of a one hour lecture out of me in 10 minutes! They make it all
worthwile.

Tsukime

> I like doing well and being happy, despite the lack of approval and all
attempts to intimidate.  Once they've realized that their
> intended prey won't knuckle under, they'll go feed on someone else.
>
> So, do well regardless; satisfy your own sense of accomplishment, live by
your own standards. In doing so, you will rise above the
> mediocre in spirit and in action.
>
> Rizii
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Date Saburou Yukiie
>
>
> This goes to show me that the odds are still stacked against us
> Jappos...and it is all the more reason why we should keep fighting to
> get Non-Euro persona accepted...
> I say bung to the Euro-trash...and hope art minded people will see
> the effort some of us "Asians" put into our work...
> Sigh...
> Still...everyone keep plugging...perhaps one day we will get there...
>
> Date, who is tired of Western Bigotry....
>
>
>
>
> --- In sca-jml@yahoogroups.com, "Douglas Shannon" <professor03@h...>
> wrote:
> > >    From: "Heidi Lyn" <akeakemai@a...>
> > >Subject: Re: Japanese A&S
> > >
> > >
> > >Actually, the "Laurel's prize tourney" that I was referring to is
> a bit of
> > >a spin on
> > >the "artisan's displays" that I have participated in
>
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#16524 From: Ii Saburou <logan@...>
Date: Fri Oct 1, 2004 10:20 pm
Subject: Re: [SCA-JML] Re: Japanese A&S
tatsushu
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On Fri, 1 Oct 2004, Date Saburou Yukiie wrote:

> Ii-dono has done such events, and I whole heartedly support efforts
> along these lines...

I have hardly done anything successfully.  Look to Mokurai-bozu for a true
example (e.g. Sword and Chrysanthemum!).  I keep promising myself I'm
going to do something, one of these days.

BTW, on that topic, how many people would be interested in a March or
April Flower Viewing event in the Northern VA/DC area?  Our cherry
blossoms would be right just about then, and depending on the schedule
(and other local events) we may be able to gear it up for just around the
the time of the DC Sakura Matsuri.


Anyone?

-Ii

#16525 From: "Heidi Lyn" <akeakemai@...>
Date: Fri Oct 1, 2004 10:31 pm
Subject: Mulitple persona disorder, was RE: Eurocentrism in the SCA
medbnalinnli...
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I wonder how many members of this list have multiple personas. I, myself,
can't imagine completely giving up my Irish persona, although Tsukime is very
quickly taking up most of my SCA time and energy.

I also want to put out an observation that I and several others made this past
year at Pennsic (to be agreed with or thoroghly debunked as the case may
be). I noticed a large number of Japanese and Celtic crosses (people with
both celtic (or celtic derivative) personas in addition to their Japanese).

I came up with severl theories as to why this may be the case, including the
parallels of a warrior society (including the existence of women warriors), the
long histories, and the romance of legend and nature spirits. However, I kept
coming back to the belief that there was something parallel asthetically - not
garb-wise (obviously), but the tendency for geometric lines and for everything
to be embellished. What do those more knowledgable than I think?

Tsukime

--- In sca-jml@yahoogroups.com, Maria <tace@m...> wrote:
> makiwara_no_yetsuko wrote:
>
> > As an SCA member who plays both as a European and a Japanese, I
don't
> > think we need to.
>
> Makiwara-dono,
>
> I agree wholeheartedly there.  I've learned to enjoy my Japanese persona
> that I'm still developing, but that doesn't mean I still don't love my
> Saxon persona and her interests.  And part of the fun of events is
> encountering people from different eras and cultures and finding out
> about them.  (Okay, and I admit a weakness to garb of any era, if it is
> well-done.  I love seeing people dressed up!)
>
> --Ki no Torahime
>
> Riverwatch, Calontir

#16526 From: "Heidi Lyn" <akeakemai@...>
Date: Fri Oct 1, 2004 10:36 pm
Subject: Re: Japanese A&S
medbnalinnli...
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--- In sca-jml@yahoogroups.com, Ii Saburou <logan@m...> wrote:

> BTW, on that topic, how many people would be interested in a March or
> April Flower Viewing event in the Northern VA/DC area?  Our cherry
> blossoms would be right just about then, and depending on the schedule
> (and other local events) we may be able to gear it up for just around the
> the time of the DC Sakura Matsuri.
>
>
> Anyone?
>
> -Ii

I would LOVE that. Also, if you would be interested, I may have some bonsai
in flower that I could bring for a display.

Tsukime

#16527 From: BamboOni@...
Date: Fri Oct 1, 2004 6:37 pm
Subject: Re: [SCA-JML] Re: Japanese A&S
samuraiofsha...
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In a message dated 10/1/2004 6:18:11 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
logan@... writes:
BTW, on that topic, how many people would be interested in a March or
April Flower Viewing event in the Northern VA/DC area?  Our cherry
blossoms would be right just about then, and depending on the schedule
(and other local events) we may be able to gear it up for just around the
the time of the DC Sakura Matsuri.


Anyone?

-Ii
Li Dono

   That sounds like a marvelous idea. Since I'm in Jersey the Northern, VA/DC
area is not that far. You can count me in.


Takebayashi Genpachi


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#16528 From: "daviem01" <ellen.m.davis@...>
Date: Fri Oct 1, 2004 10:49 pm
Subject: Re: A Variety of Inquiries (garb, names, poetry)
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> Does this mean we have a possible replacement for "Kitsune"? ;->
You
> know SOMEBODY's going to think it's cool. Heck, look what I picked!
>
> Makiwara

"Ochikubo Monogatari" is a really, really cool story-- I highly
recommend it.  The evil relatives definitely get what's coming to
them in a very Heian way.

-Aine

#16529 From: Ii Saburou <logan@...>
Date: Fri Oct 1, 2004 10:54 pm
Subject: Re: [SCA-JML] Re: Japanese A&S
tatsushu
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On Fri, 1 Oct 2004, Heidi Lyn wrote:

> --- In sca-jml@yahoogroups.com, Ii Saburou <logan@m...> wrote:
>
>> BTW, on that topic, how many people would be interested in a March or
>> April Flower Viewing event in the Northern VA/DC area?  Our cherry
>> blossoms would be right just about then, and depending on the schedule
>> (and other local events) we may be able to gear it up for just around the
>> the time of the DC Sakura Matsuri.
>>
>>
>> Anyone?
>>
>> -Ii
>
> I would LOVE that. Also, if you would be interested, I may have some bonsai
> in flower that I could bring for a display.
>
> Tsukime
>

I'm thinking it would be neat to have an event--maybe SCA or maybe
not--with a specific Japanese theme.

Here's another question: would people here be less inclined to come to a
Japanese event if there wasn't a tournament?  Maybe just an archery shoot?
Or is that going too far outside the bounds of what people expect?

-Ii

#16530 From: Elaine Koogler <ekoogler1@...>
Date: Fri Oct 1, 2004 10:59 pm
Subject: Re: [SCA-JML] Re: Japanese A&S
ekoogler1@...
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Ii Saburou wrote:

> On Fri, 1 Oct 2004, Heidi Lyn wrote:
>
> > --- In sca-jml@yahoogroups.com, Ii Saburou <logan@m...> wrote:
> >
> >> BTW, on that topic, how many people would be interested in a March or
> >> April Flower Viewing event in the Northern VA/DC area?  Our cherry
> >> blossoms would be right just about then, and depending on the schedule
> >> (and other local events) we may be able to gear it up for just
> around the
> >> the time of the DC Sakura Matsuri.
> >>
> >>
> >> Anyone?
> >>
> >> -Ii
> >
> > I would LOVE that. Also, if you would be interested, I may have some
> bonsai
> > in flower that I could bring for a display.
> >
> > Tsukime
> >
>
> I'm thinking it would be neat to have an event--maybe SCA or maybe
> not--with a specific Japanese theme.
>
> Here's another question: would people here be less inclined to come to a
> Japanese event if there wasn't a tournament?  Maybe just an archery
> shoot?
> Or is that going too far outside the bounds of what people expect?
>
> -Ii
>
>
You might have trouble getting the general populace to come...typically
folks come in greater numbers if there is some kind of tournament.  You
could potentially have melees with combat archery...done Japanese-style,
permitting only weapons forms that are compatible with Japanese weapons
(great sword, two-sword, but no sword and board, etc.).  When we did our
events, that was something everyone seemed to enjoy.

Kiri

#16531 From: "daviem01" <ellen.m.davis@...>
Date: Fri Oct 1, 2004 11:06 pm
Subject: Re: A Variety of Inquiries (garb, names, poetry)
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> My nickname isn't Nezumi; I just have this feeling that if I let
fellow Japanese persona
> SCAdians come up with something, my lapses into rat tales and my
screen names
> elsewhere would invite the appelation, even though it's kind of a
negatively viewed
> animal no matter where you go, though with a few, but not
apparently redeemable,
> exceptions.

It seems that rats/mice were not always negatively viewed in Japan,
at least not nearly as much as foxes and the like.  For one thing,
there's a year in the cycle named after them; for another, because
they tended to hang out where the rice (read: food) was, they were
considered lucky and you sometimes see them as symbols of Inari, the
god(dess) of rice.  (Foxes, which preyed on the rats/mice/small
animals in the fields and had a similar association.)  There are some
really great period and post-period paintings, netsuke, etc. of rats
and mice, usually munching on vegetables or sheaves of grain.

In particular, there are at least two picture scrolls featuring
anthropomorphic mice as the main characters: "Nezumi no soshi" (The
Mouse Story) and "Yahyoe nezumi" (Yahyoe the Mouse).  The latter can
be found online at http://dbs.humi.keio.ac.jp/naraehon/ehon/index2-
e.asp?ID=KL033&FRAME=False -- this particular scroll dates from the
Edo Period but is apparently a reproduction/retelling of a Muromachi
period story.  It also expresses what I was saying above about rats
and mice in period: during the course of his adventures, Yahyoe takes
refuge in a shrine of Inari or Daikoku (not sure).  When a lord and
his wife come to pray, they take Yahyoe to be a messenger of the god
and show him great kindness, even helping him to get back to his
family.

(The funniest part of the scroll is after Yahyoe marries the daughter
of a field mouse and they have lots of children and live in splendor
in a temple storehouse.  The scroll shows the mice wearing fine
clothing, playing human games, and eating fine feasts-- and then you
see what's REALLY happening, at least if humans were to come across
them: a bunch of tiny little mice crawling in and around old, beat up
furniture and clothes in the temple storehouse, and nibbling on the
offerings.  Heehee!)


> Actually, I found some documentation, or at least, a slightly
secondary source that
> mentions that in Tokugawa Japan, breeding fancy mice was a hobby
(and has a
> picture too.) There was apparently a manual too about how to breed
mice and a quick
> web search shows there was a Buddhist monk who had two pet fancy
mice. Not
> exactly rats, but rats are really just big mice with better
personalities (;
>

Fascinating!

-Aine

#16532 From: Elaine Koogler <ekoogler1@...>
Date: Fri Oct 1, 2004 11:17 pm
Subject: Re: [SCA-JML] Re: Japanese A&S
ekoogler1@...
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Ii Saburou wrote:

> On Fri, 1 Oct 2004, Date Saburou Yukiie wrote:
>
> > Ii-dono has done such events, and I whole heartedly support efforts
> > along these lines...
>
> I have hardly done anything successfully.  Look to Mokurai-bozu for a
> true
> example (e.g. Sword and Chrysanthemum!).  I keep promising myself I'm
> going to do something, one of these days.
>
> BTW, on that topic, how many people would be interested in a March or
> April Flower Viewing event in the Northern VA/DC area?  Our cherry
> blossoms would be right just about then, and depending on the schedule
> (and other local events) we may be able to gear it up for just around the
> the time of the DC Sakura Matsuri.
>
>
> Anyone?
>
> -Ii
>
>
I suspect that Phillip and I would be interested, depending on when it is...

Kiri

#16533 From: Booknerd9@...
Date: Fri Oct 1, 2004 11:21 pm
Subject: Re: A Variety of Inquiries (garb, names, poetry)
booknerd9
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->
> In particular, there are at least two picture scrolls featuring
> anthropomorphic mice as the main characters: "Nezumi no soshi" (The
> Mouse Story) and "Yahyoe nezumi" (Yahyoe the Mouse).  The latter
can
> be found online at http://dbs.humi.keio.ac.jp/naraehon/ehon/index2-
> e.asp?ID=KL033&FRAME=False -- this particular scroll dates from the
> Edo Period but is apparently a reproduction/retelling of a
Muromachi
> period story.

Ah, yes, I had stumbled along this scroll online a while back. One of
the first pictures,
where they're all in their finery, was the background/desktop for my
computer for a
bit. Cute little story, though I felt sad when poor Yahyoe got lost
and his wife missed
him. Yeah, yeah, the story is only two or three paragraphs but the
poor widdle
mwousie...
Actually, I was thinking about this yesterday, pet rats could
actually ride pretty
comfortably in wide court sleeves, provided they don't scamper down
and tumble
down the robe onto the ground (and you'd probably want to wear a
yellow robe just in
case, lol). Mine loved to hang out in the sleeves of regular clothes,
but she'd probably
get lost in a huge upper robe. (;
------
| <'3 |
\ ___/

s.E

#16534 From: "Elizabeth Chase" <elizabethlchase@...>
Date: Fri Oct 1, 2004 11:35 pm
Subject: RE: [SCA-JML] Re: Japanese A&S
elizabethchase1
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Very well said, indeed. Perhaps you might be inspiration for me to display
my own work, in the interest of furthering our culture, not for the sake of
being judged, which is my present discomfort.

Rizii


>From: "Heidi Lyn" <akeakemai@...>
>Reply-To: sca-jml@yahoogroups.com
>To: sca-jml@yahoogroups.com

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#16535 From: Elaine Koogler <ekoogler1@...>
Date: Fri Oct 1, 2004 10:56 pm
Subject: Re: [SCA-JML] Mulitple persona disorder, was RE: Eurocentrism in the SCA
ekoogler1@...
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Heidi Lyn wrote:

>
> I wonder how many members of this list have multiple personas. I, myself,
> can't imagine completely giving up my Irish persona, although Tsukime
> is very
> quickly taking up most of my SCA time and energy.
>
> I also want to put out an observation that I and several others made
> this past
> year at Pennsic (to be agreed with or thoroghly debunked as the case may
> be). I noticed a large number of Japanese and Celtic crosses (people with
> both celtic (or celtic derivative) personas in addition to their
> Japanese).
>
> I came up with severl theories as to why this may be the case,
> including the
> parallels of a warrior society (including the existence of women
> warriors), the
> long histories, and the romance of legend and nature spirits. However,
> I kept
> coming back to the belief that there was something parallel
> asthetically - not
> garb-wise (obviously), but the tendency for geometric lines and for
> everything
> to be embellished. What do those more knowledgable than I think?
>
> Tsukime
>
> --- In sca-jml@yahoogroups.com, Maria <tace@m...> wrote:
> > makiwara_no_yetsuko wrote:
> >
> > > As an SCA member who plays both as a European and a Japanese, I
> don't
> > > think we need to.
> >
> > Makiwara-dono,
> >
> > I agree wholeheartedly there.  I've learned to enjoy my Japanese
> persona
> > that I'm still developing, but that doesn't mean I still don't love my
> > Saxon persona and her interests.  And part of the fun of events is
> > encountering people from different eras and cultures and finding out
> > about them.  (Okay, and I admit a weakness to garb of any era, if it is
> > well-done.  I love seeing people dressed up!)
> >
> > --Ki no Torahime
> >
> >

I have two personnas...the primary personna is my Japanese persona,
which I adopted when I first joined the Society mumbley-mumbley years
ago (when rocks were soft and dirt was new!)...and the second is an
English late-period persona.  I probably wear the European garb more
frequently (and occasionally even stray into Middle Eastern garb) I
guess because I did the Japanese persona for so long that it's a fun
change.  I'm a real time traveller...I wear garb that ranges from
Anglo-Saxon through Tudor...and just about everything in between.
And...oddly enough, no one ever uses my European persona's name,
Eleanor!  I'm "Kiri" to everyone, no matter what garb I'm wearing.

Here in Atlantia, we have had some prejudice against Japanese personas,
but it is, I believe, waning.  We have done several oriental-themed
events here in my Barony.  I frequently display my work, usually garb,
whenever a "display" is held.  In fact, at Kingdom Crusades
(inter-kingdom with the East), they have asked Laurels to bring an early
example of the work they did which earned them their Laurel...I plan to
take the first uchikake I ever made.  And....our King and Queen have
announced that they are wearing Japanese garb for Twelfth Night.  A
major surprise!  I am sponsoring a Japanese garb competition as part of
the A&S competitions.

So...with patience, and with the sharing of information, this can be
overcome.

Kiri

#16536 From: "John" <j_tygart@...>
Date: Sat Oct 2, 2004 12:09 am
Subject: Eurocentrism in the SCA, was Re: Japanese A&S
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Ansteorra holds a japanese themed event every other year,
the "festival of Japan"

it is comming up this next April.

And Ansteorra has a small, but growing japanese population int he
SCA. For example, I was at Elfsea defender this last weekend, in all
japanese armor for the first time, and even His Majesty Quintus
Dracontius came up to me later and told me he LOVED my kit. Almsot
every one that saw me on thelist field had a kind word for my armor.

Odawara Taro Yoshinobu

#16537 From: "Heidi Lyn" <akeakemai@...>
Date: Sat Oct 2, 2004 12:10 am
Subject: Kingdom Crusades was RE: multiple personality disorder
medbnalinnli...
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In fact, at Kingdom Crusades
> (inter-kingdom with the East), they have asked Laurels to bring an early
> example of the work they did which earned them their Laurel...I plan to
> take the first uchikake I ever made.  And....our King and Queen have
> announced that they are wearing Japanese garb for Twelfth Night.  A
> major surprise!  I am sponsoring a Japanese garb competition as part of
> the A&S competitions.
>
> So...with patience, and with the sharing of information, this can be
> overcome.
>
> Kiri

I hope to see you at the Crusades! Both my cousin and I will be there at the
A&S tables!

Tsukime

#16538 From: John Mooers <jemooers@...>
Date: Sat Oct 2, 2004 1:29 am
Subject: Re: [SCA-JML] Re: Japanese A&S
squireatsea
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Just say when and where and my household will show.

Date Toshinobu

Ii Saburou <logan@...> wrote:
On Fri, 1 Oct 2004, Date Saburou Yukiie wrote:

> Ii-dono has done such events, and I whole heartedly support efforts
> along these lines...

I have hardly done anything successfully.  Look to Mokurai-bozu for a true
example (e.g. Sword and Chrysanthemum!).  I keep promising myself I'm
going to do something, one of these days.

BTW, on that topic, how many people would be interested in a March or
April Flower Viewing event in the Northern VA/DC area?  Our cherry
blossoms would be right just about then, and depending on the schedule
(and other local events) we may be able to gear it up for just around the
the time of the DC Sakura Matsuri.


Anyone?

-Ii


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#16539 From: Lady Meadhbh <ladypyrate@...>
Date: Sat Oct 2, 2004 1:32 am
Subject: Re: [SCA-JML] Re: Japanese A&S
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Ii-dono,
   I'd love to see that!  My husband has never been to DC, and I haven't
seen Cherry Blossoms in bloom for a *long* time! (Grew up in NJ and my
Grandmother lived just past "Cherry Blossom Land" in Essex County
Park.)  As long as the funds are here count me in!

Meadhbh
Obune-Hime


Ii Saburou wrote:

> On Fri, 1 Oct 2004, Date Saburou Yukiie wrote:
>
> > Ii-dono has done such events, and I whole heartedly support efforts
> > along these lines...
>
> I have hardly done anything successfully.  Look to Mokurai-bozu for a
> true
> example (e.g. Sword and Chrysanthemum!).  I keep promising myself I'm
> going to do something, one of these days.
>
> BTW, on that topic, how many people would be interested in a March or
> April Flower Viewing event in the Northern VA/DC area?  Our cherry
> blossoms would be right just about then, and depending on the schedule
> (and other local events) we may be able to gear it up for just around the
> the time of the DC Sakura Matsuri.
>
>
> Anyone?
>
> -Ii
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#16540 From: "Ellen Davis" <ellen.m.davis@...>
Date: Sat Oct 2, 2004 2:25 am
Subject: RE: [SCA-JML] Mulitple persona disorder, was RE: Eurocentrism in the SCA
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> > I also want to put out an observation that I and several others made
> > this past
> > year at Pennsic (to be agreed with or thoroghly debunked as
> the case may
> > be). I noticed a large number of Japanese and Celtic
> crosses (people with
> > both celtic (or celtic derivative) personas in addition to their
> > Japanese).

Ah, the infamous "Celtanese".   I'm one of them, but I can't really explain
it...

-Aine

#16541 From: "Ellen Davis" <ellen.m.davis@...>
Date: Sat Oct 2, 2004 2:27 am
Subject: RE: [SCA-JML] Re: A Variety of Inquiries (garb, names, poetry)
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> Actually, I was thinking about this yesterday, pet rats could
> actually ride pretty
> comfortably in wide court sleeves, provided they don't
> scamper down and tumble
> down the robe onto the ground (and you'd probably want to
> wear a yellow robe just in
> case, lol). Mine loved to hang out in the sleeves of regular
> clothes, but she'd probably
> get lost in a huge upper robe. (;

I don't know if there's any authenticity in this, but in "Fudoki" by Kij
Johnson, the narrator, Princess Harueme, speaks of how she used to raise
mice which would nestle in her sleeves (in her young, wild and crazy days,
anyway).  Fantastic book.

-Aine

#16542 From: Ii Saburou <logan@...>
Date: Sat Oct 2, 2004 2:31 am
Subject: Re: [SCA-JML] Re: Japanese A&S
tatsushu
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On Fri, 1 Oct 2004, Elaine Koogler wrote:

> You might have trouble getting the general populace to come...typically
> folks come in greater numbers if there is some kind of tournament.  You
> could potentially have melees with combat archery...done Japanese-style,
> permitting only weapons forms that are compatible with Japanese weapons
> (great sword, two-sword, but no sword and board, etc.).  When we did our
> events, that was something everyone seemed to enjoy.

But do I want general populace?

I find that there seems to be a pressure around to get people to turn out.
What's wrong with small events?  Heck, I remember when 15 people was our
average event size in Oertha.

A small, Japanese themed A&S event could be more appropriately focused on
a single theme.  It wouldn't need to be big.  We do not have to have
everything revolve around a tournament.

We do have events in the area where there is no fighting, too.  I remember
'Eine Kleine Fest Mit Eine Grosse Essen' (sp?), a complete cooking event.
Then there was the Performers' Symposium.

So, if we did an early Kamakura event?  We could put it between 1185 and
1190, in the attempt to rebuild from Civil War (Genpei Wars).  A
transition for both the kuge and buke.

Hmmm..... ideas are spinning.

-Ii

#16543 From: Elaine Koogler <ekoogler1@...>
Date: Sat Oct 2, 2004 2:37 am
Subject: Re: [SCA-JML] Re: Japanese A&S
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Ii Saburou wrote:

> On Fri, 1 Oct 2004, Elaine Koogler wrote:
>
> > You might have trouble getting the general populace to come...typically
> > folks come in greater numbers if there is some kind of tournament.  You
> > could potentially have melees with combat archery...done Japanese-style,
> > permitting only weapons forms that are compatible with Japanese weapons
> > (great sword, two-sword, but no sword and board, etc.).  When we did our
> > events, that was something everyone seemed to enjoy.
>
> But do I want general populace?
>
> I find that there seems to be a pressure around to get people to turn
> out.
> What's wrong with small events?  Heck, I remember when 15 people was our
> average event size in Oertha.
>
> A small, Japanese themed A&S event could be more appropriately focused on
> a single theme.  It wouldn't need to be big.  We do not have to have
> everything revolve around a tournament.
>
> We do have events in the area where there is no fighting, too.  I
> remember
> 'Eine Kleine Fest Mit Eine Grosse Essen' (sp?), a complete cooking event.
> Then there was the Performers' Symposium.
>
> So, if we did an early Kamakura event?  We could put it between 1185 and
> 1190, in the attempt to rebuild from Civil War (Genpei Wars).  A
> transition for both the kuge and buke.
>
> Hmmm..... ideas are spinning.
>
> -Ii
>
Sounds cool...however, remember that the smaller the event, the higher
the price has to be...especially if you want a feast.  And the cost of
the site will run the per person cost up as well.  Understand...I'm not
trying to burst your bubble...just want to make sure you're considering
all angles.  ;-)

Kiir

#16544 From: "makiwara_no_yetsuko" <makiwara_no_yetsuko@...>
Date: Sat Oct 2, 2004 3:40 am
Subject: Re: Japanese A&S
makiwara_no_...
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--- In sca-jml@yahoogroups.com, Ii Saburou <logan@m...> wrote:

> BTW, on that topic, how many people would be interested in a March
or
> April Flower Viewing event in the Northern VA/DC area?  Our cherry
> blossoms would be right just about then, and depending on the
schedule
> (and other local events) we may be able to gear it up for just
around the
> the time of the DC Sakura Matsuri.

Y'know, I have family in Annapolis. If I have my job situation
squared away and can take enough time off to fit in a visit at the
right time.....

Makiwara

#16545 From: "makiwara_no_yetsuko" <makiwara_no_yetsuko@...>
Date: Sat Oct 2, 2004 3:58 am
Subject: Re: Japanese A&S
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--- In sca-jml@yahoogroups.com, Elaine Koogler <ekoogler1@c...>
wrote:

> Sounds cool...however, remember that the smaller the event, the
higher
> the price has to be...especially if you want a feast.  And the
cost of
> the site will run the per person cost up as well.

What about an intimate little potluck picnic in a park - with
flowering trees, of course? Have a space for martial activities, an
area for games and conversation, perhaps in or near a covered picnic
pavilion just in case the weather is iffy.... Park permits are way
cheaper than hall rentals.

Just a thought,
Makiwara

#16546 From: Donald Luby <djl@...>
Date: Sat Oct 2, 2004 5:54 am
Subject: Re: [SCA-JML] Re: Japanese A&S
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On Oct 1, 2004, at 6:20 PM, Ii Saburou wrote:

>
> On Fri, 1 Oct 2004, Date Saburou Yukiie wrote:
>
>> Ii-dono has done such events, and I whole heartedly support efforts
>> along these lines...
>
> I have hardly done anything successfully.  Look to Mokurai-bozu for a
> true
> example (e.g. Sword and Chrysanthemum!).  I keep promising myself I'm
> going to do something, one of these days.

It's true - Sword and Chrysanthemum was a most excellent event; the
only downer was the weather, which forced the cancellation of some of
the outdoor activities, and required fighting indoors.

> BTW, on that topic, how many people would be interested in a March or
> April Flower Viewing event in the Northern VA/DC area?  Our cherry
> blossoms would be right just about then, and depending on the schedule
> (and other local events) we may be able to gear it up for just around
> the
> the time of the DC Sakura Matsuri.
>
> Anyone?

Sure!  I'd come down for it (barring schedule conflicts, like having
having to attend our Coronation as Earl Marshal or some such ...) -
D.C. is actually a little closer than Philly (by about 60 miles), and I
drove there for S & C.

> -Ii


Koredono

#16547 From: Ii Saburou <logan@...>
Date: Sat Oct 2, 2004 1:20 pm
Subject: Re: [SCA-JML] Re: Japanese A&S
tatsushu
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On Sat, 2 Oct 2004, makiwara_no_yetsuko wrote:

> What about an intimate little potluck picnic in a park - with
> flowering trees, of course? Have a space for martial activities, an
> area for games and conversation, perhaps in or near a covered picnic
> pavilion just in case the weather is iffy.... Park permits are way
> cheaper than hall rentals.

Definitely one thought we've had.  Our neighborhood association actually
has a fishing pavillion ;)

There are several areas that might be good for something like this.  If we
provided something like bento, it might work well.  Definitely should try
to find somewhere with water, though.

Hmmmm....

-Ii

#16548 From: "John Hidalgo" <oniyama@...>
Date: Sat Oct 2, 2004 2:17 pm
Subject: Query: Using files, photos, articles and links from this list on TexasShinto.org
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Hello Everyone,

I was wondering if there would be any objections to my using files, photos,
articles and links from this list on TexasShinto.org.   There is a lot of good
content out there that would really help.  If there are any objections, please
let me know.

Thanks.

Take care,
John Hidalgo
www.texasshinto.org
www.roundrockbujinkan.com
"Seek freedom and become a slave to your desires. Seek discipline and discover
your liberty."




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#16549 From: "makiwara_no_yetsuko" <makiwara_no_yetsuko@...>
Date: Sat Oct 2, 2004 4:52 pm
Subject: Re: Japanese A&S
makiwara_no_...
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--- In sca-jml@yahoogroups.com, Ii Saburou <logan@m...> wrote:
> On Sat, 2 Oct 2004, makiwara_no_yetsuko wrote:

> There are several areas that might be good for something like
this.  If we
> provided something like bento, it might work well.  Definitely
should try
> to find somewhere with water, though.

Yes! Thought of bento boxes after I signed off last night.

Makiwara

#16550 From: "Elizabeth Chase" <elizabethlchase@...>
Date: Sat Oct 2, 2004 5:06 pm
Subject: Flower Viewing Event --- Re: [SCA-JML] Re: Japanese A&S
elizabethchase1
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If our paths lead us there, we will make the journey.

Rizii

----- Original Message -----
From: John Mooers


Just say when and where and my household will show.

Date Toshinobu

Ii Saburou <logan@...> wrote:
On Fri, 1 Oct 2004, Date Saburou Yukiie wrote:

> Ii-dono has done such events, and I whole heartedly support efforts
> along these lines...

I have hardly done anything successfully.  Look to Mokurai-bozu for a true
example (e.g. Sword and Chrysanthemum!).  I keep promising myself I'm
going to do something, one of these days.

BTW, on that topic, how many people would be interested in a March or
April Flower Viewing event in the Northern VA/DC area?  Our cherry
blossoms would be right just about then, and depending on the schedule
(and other local events) we may be able to gear it up for just around the
the time of the DC Sakura Matsuri.


Anyone?

-Ii






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#16551 From: Ii Saburou <logan@...>
Date: Sat Oct 2, 2004 10:16 pm
Subject: Re: [SCA-JML] Query: Using files, photos, articles and links from this list on TexasShinto.org
tatsushu
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As a moderator, I cannot allow the use of files and photos without the
original owner's consent.  If you have a question about something, feel
free to ask.

Personally, I have no problem with you using any of my stuff, as long as
you let me know and it is properly attributed.

Links, on the other hand, are yours to use, as they are simply an address
to somewhere else--if a person does not wish for their information on a
web page to be public, they should make sure to take care of that by
securing their site.

-Ii Katsumori

On Sat, 2 Oct 2004, John Hidalgo wrote:

> Date: Sat, 2 Oct 2004 09:17:12 -0500
> From: John Hidalgo <oniyama@...>
> Reply-To: sca-jml@yahoogroups.com
> To: sca-jml@yahoogroups.com, shintothenaturalreligion@yahoogroups.com,
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>     Kami-No-Michi@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [SCA-JML] Query: Using files, photos,
>     articles and links from this list on TexasShinto.org
>
>
> Hello Everyone,
>
> I was wondering if there would be any objections to my using files, photos,
articles and links from this list on TexasShinto.org.   There is a lot of good
content out there that would really help.  If there are any objections, please
let me know.
>
> Thanks.
>
> Take care,
> John Hidalgo
> www.texasshinto.org
> www.roundrockbujinkan.com
> "Seek freedom and become a slave to your desires. Seek discipline and discover
your liberty."
>
>
>
>
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