... I do not exclude idiots from the (or any) affinity group. All it takes to be "of a religion" is to say so. So, I take "I'm a Wiccan." as truthful as "I'm a...
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scypres
Mar 9, 2003 2:15 am
... Oh- we all have our share of idiots! I'm not denying that! ... This is true of some religions- most prominently Protestant sects of Christianity. But these...
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yotxeskcufdnim
Mar 9, 2003 5:34 am
Scypres, This is the way I like to disagree. Earlier today, I had a disagreement with a Fundamentalist Chaos Mage, who barked me off the board, calling me...
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DocFox
docfoxtam
Mar 9, 2003 3:27 pm
Actually: I do know one can convert to Judaism and have had a friend do so many years ago despite being of Anglo Saxon origins. He had to study with a Rabbi...
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Aaron Leitch
kheph777
Mar 9, 2003 5:10 pm
... Well, yeah... it pretty much boils down to: "...because that's the list of Angels we use." Auriel is a slippery one- appropriately enough. Occult...
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Aaron Leitch
kheph777
Mar 9, 2003 5:10 pm
... And this goes right along with the Wiccan orthodoxy in which you have to be initiated into a coven by an initiated priesthood with proper lineage. (Well......
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Aaron Leitch
kheph777
Mar 9, 2003 5:10 pm
... You have to look over the longer scope of history for this one. Christianity went through every bit of this. First there was the decentralized, every ...
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scypres
Mar 9, 2003 6:31 pm
... Oh, me too. I love debate, but hate conflict. Especially hate when a e-list goes Jerry Springer. That's when I leave. ... Yes, that's true. But believing...
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yotxeskcufdnim
Mar 9, 2003 6:42 pm
... This is a particular evolutionary weakness in the Biblical tradition. The tradition itself expects itself to be fixed - as ordained by the Almighty. I made...
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DocFox
docfoxtam
Mar 9, 2003 6:44 pm
Dear Aaron: A very nice commentary. I really enjoyed the last piece of it. I went searching in the Catholic encyclopedia and found this snippet: Of these...
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yotxeskcufdnim
Mar 9, 2003 7:53 pm
... I agree that it's too late for that. Wicca, to the populace, is just a religion. You can stick it on your dogtag and be given a Wiccan funeral without ever...
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yotxeskcufdnim
Mar 9, 2003 8:33 pm
... Old Argument, but maybe we can relate it to something that has died off. There is the primary Roman religion, which is now dead but dreaming. If people...
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Aaron Leitch
kheph777
Mar 9, 2003 9:35 pm
... Unless one looks at the developing Third Wave culture around us- in which demassification is the rule. In this atmosphere, that elasticity could be its ...
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ClaireNoaell@...
elfsbeth
Mar 10, 2003 6:42 pm
In a message dated 3/5/03 10:59:05 AM Central Standard Time, Aaron@... ... Hi Aaron & everyone ~ First on the subject of initiation I wonder what the...
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yotxeskcufdnim
Mar 10, 2003 6:57 pm
... rule. In this atmosphere, that elasticity could be > its saving grace. (That, actually, is part of my ... I agree with you, but I'm pointing out a...
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Steve K
steve10k
Mar 10, 2003 10:16 pm
... Hey ya buncha Wizards, Oboy oboy, name games and the issue of is-ness! One of my favorites... in that it bears so strongly on an underlying issue, "social...
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yotxeskcufdnim
Mar 11, 2003 12:06 am
... an underlying issue, "social identity" ... something like 'nationalism'. ... "official"; = a nationalistic flag. Though perhaps an E-Prime user would...
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Steve K
steve10k
Mar 11, 2003 9:22 am
... Either way, "Eeeww! Get if offa me! Get it offa me!" I carry a huge American flag at protest rallies, but it is STRICTLY for propaganda impact. ;o) ... ...
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yotxeskcufdnim
Mar 11, 2003 10:31 pm
... Sure... but you have to die first. Till then, there will always be a flag in your soul, somewhere. ... Oh? I'm a Magician who does not obey that rule. It...
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Aaron Leitch
kheph777
Mar 12, 2003 1:20 am
Someone from the Abramelin Working list has been asking me questions in private e-mail. As such, I am not including his(?) name in the below. The discussion...
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Aaron Leitch
kheph777
Mar 12, 2003 1:20 am
... Heh.. funny you should mention that. Agrippa explains the use of the "Alphabet of Desire" in Talismanic magick- somewhere around five centures before...
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Aaron Leitch
kheph777
Mar 12, 2003 1:20 am
... Really?? I've had an eye out for Mather's possible sources for a while. I also have a friend who might be very pleased to hear this. He seems more ...
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yotxeskcufdnim
Mar 12, 2003 2:15 am
... He also mentioned Arabic as being one of the best languages for this purpose. I agree with him, after seeing some of the images made by Sufis. They still ...
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Aaron Leitch
kheph777
Mar 12, 2003 6:53 am
... How could they? Western mystics have been following behind them for generations! :) That's not to say that the Europeans didn't come up with some deep...
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Aaron Leitch
kheph777
Mar 12, 2003 6:53 am
... For mere speculation, you hammer home a great point. Admitedly, I make my point about Agrippa and the "Alphabet of Desire" concept with a snide (or, at...
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yotxeskcufdnim
Mar 14, 2003 9:45 pm
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Aaron Leitch
kheph777
Mar 15, 2003 1:42 pm
Greetings, All! A good bunch of folks have moved in here, so I thought I'd help get the ball rolling a bit today. So far you've mainly seen a few cross-posts...
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Aaron Leitch
kheph777
Mar 15, 2003 1:50 pm
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Aaron Leitch
kheph777
Mar 15, 2003 1:50 pm
<bold><italic><bigger>The Picatrix (Ghâyat al-Hakîm fi'l-sihr)</italic></bold><smaller>: Recent scholarship on this Arabic text indicates that it may in fact...
