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----- Forwarded Message ----
From: george jackson <thebinder7@...>
To: George D Jackson <thebinder7@...>
Sent: Fri, December 25, 2009 6:22:41 PM
Subject: Songs of Celebration

I like songs of celebration and I suspect we don't have enough of them. Here is one you might enjoy. It's "Carol of the Bells" by Celtic Woman... I've been having trouble posting this link so I hope it comes through.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6tNbsQ8eDbA&feature=related

George

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#16294

From: wyrd_crossings@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tue Dec 15, 2009 12:09 am
Subject: Birthday Reminder

wyrd_crossings@yahoogroups.com

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Title:		Alastair's 18th Birthday!

Date:		Wednesday December 16, 2009
Time:		All Day
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#16293

From: wyrd_crossings@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wed Dec 9, 2009 12:04 am
Subject: Birthday Reminder

wyrd_crossings@yahoogroups.com

Reminder from:		wyrd_crossings Yahoo! Group

Title:		Alastair's 18th Birthday!

Date:		Wednesday December 16, 2009
Time:		All Day
Repeats:		This event repeats every year.
Next reminder:		The next reminder for this event will be sent in 5 days, 23 hours, 55 minutes.
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#16292

From: "Catseye" <catseye71352@...>
Date: Wed Dec 2, 2009 3:33 pm
Subject: Re: Intuitive group - looking for your opinions

catseye71352

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I'll check it out; anything that helps is good.

Catseye  ( (|) )

--- In wyrd_crossings@yahoogroups.com, "agna.moon" <agna.moon@...> wrote:
>
> Hey all :) Since there seem to be a lot of sensitives around this comm, I'd
like your opinion on something.
>
> The last few months, I and several other intuitives have worked very hard on
setting up an online <a
href="http://www.elfpath.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=27&t=125">school</a> where
people can take (free) courses of a few months to learn about the
meta-intuitive, how they can start using their own intuition more reliably, how
they can work with energy and increase their awareness.
>
> So far, we're on our third group of students, and many of them are reporting
that they are feeling healthier, have less problems in their personal lives and
are taking much more control over their own life. Dealing with stress is easier,
and they're beginning to really deal with all the issues that are holding them
back. They're also doing their fair share of really amazing intuitive work.
>
> What I'm wondering is what people who are interested in learning these things
are looking for specifically. What are the problems with the meta-physical you
run into most often, what areas would you wish there was more info about, what
are you curious about but dont know where to ask?
>
> Also, if you were to receive healing/energy work from an intuitive, what would
you expect, and what results would you want the most?
>
> I'm trying to determine what topics people would most want us to teach them,
and in what order. Are people more interested in learning to sense ghosts and
other entities and dealing with them, or would you prefer to learn how to ground
and shield properly? Do you want to stop people from stealing your energy, or do
you want to know why the world has been changing so much lately? Do you want to
be able to tell if someone's lying, or do you want to find ways to deal with
anger and fear, or clear up your energy blocks and make your chakras work
smoothly?
>
> If anyone's curious, www.elfpath.com
>
> I'd be grateful for any insight any of you can offer! Also, I'd love to get in
touch with others who are working on similar things, as I firmly believe we can
all learn so much from each other, and there's no reason for any of us to
struggle through problems alone
>

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#16291

From: "agna.moon" <agna.moon@...>
Date: Wed Dec 2, 2009 11:08 am
Subject: Intuitive group - looking for your opinions

agna.moon

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Hey all :) Since there seem to be a lot of sensitives around this comm, I'd like
your opinion on something.

The last few months, I and several other intuitives have worked very hard on
setting up an online <a
href="http://www.elfpath.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=27&t=125">school</a> where
people can take (free) courses of a few months to learn about the
meta-intuitive, how they can start using their own intuition more reliably, how
they can work with energy and increase their awareness.

So far, we're on our third group of students, and many of them are reporting
that they are feeling healthier, have less problems in their personal lives and
are taking much more control over their own life. Dealing with stress is easier,
and they're beginning to really deal with all the issues that are holding them
back. They're also doing their fair share of really amazing intuitive work.

What I'm wondering is what people who are interested in learning these things
are looking for specifically. What are the problems with the meta-physical you
run into most often, what areas would you wish there was more info about, what
are you curious about but dont know where to ask?

Also, if you were to receive healing/energy work from an intuitive, what would
you expect, and what results would you want the most?

I'm trying to determine what topics people would most want us to teach them, and
in what order. Are people more interested in learning to sense ghosts and other
entities and dealing with them, or would you prefer to learn how to ground and
shield properly? Do you want to stop people from stealing your energy, or do you
want to know why the world has been changing so much lately? Do you want to be
able to tell if someone's lying, or do you want to find ways to deal with anger
and fear, or clear up your energy blocks and make your chakras work smoothly?

If anyone's curious, www.elfpath.com

I'd be grateful for any insight any of you can offer! Also, I'd love to get in
touch with others who are working on similar things, as I firmly believe we can
all learn so much from each other, and there's no reason for any of us to
struggle through problems alone

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#16290

From: wyrd_crossings@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wed Nov 4, 2009 2:36 pm
Subject: New file uploaded to wyrd_crossings

wyrd_crossings@yahoogroups.com

Hello,

This email message is a notification to let you know that
a file has been uploaded to the Files area of the wyrd_crossings
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#16289

From: george jackson <thebinder7@...>
Date: Fri Oct 23, 2009 8:29 pm
Subject: Re: Just checking...

thebinder7

Online Now

It has been pretty quiet here. When critical theory went out of vogue yahoo took a hit. Now for games and such it is "facebook" and for short and to the point, "twitter". Su has some groups on Myspace she posts to regularly and I try and do a once a week blog there. The times keep right on changing... LOL

George

--- On Fri, 10/23/09, Kat <coolmoo@...> wrote:

From: Kat <coolmoo@...>
Subject: [wyrd_crossings] Just checking...
To: wyrd_crossings@yahoogroups.com
Date: Friday, October 23, 2009, 6:23 AM

I have (sadly) been absent here for some time. Issues arise. I noticed today, that Ansur said something about Su being gone now? Is she ok? Or just busy like the rest of mankind (it seems). Blessings all ~Kat

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#16288

From: Lord Ansur <lordansurpact@...>
Date: Fri Oct 23, 2009 1:32 pm
Subject: Re: Just checking...

lordansurpact

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Su is doing most of her business on MySpace. I was attempting to direct a Newbie to more meaningful discussions. So, without her awesome direction, things have been pretty subdued here...

Ansur

--- On Fri, 10/23/09, Kat <coolmoo@...> wrote:

From: Kat <coolmoo@...>
Subject: [wyrd_crossings] Just checking...
To: wyrd_crossings@yahoogroups.com
Date: Friday, October 23, 2009, 6:23 AM

I have (sadly) been absent here for some time. Issues arise. I noticed today, that Ansur said something about Su being gone now? Is she ok? Or just busy like the rest of mankind (it seems). Blessings all ~Kat

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#16287

From: "Kat" <coolmoo@...>
Date: Fri Oct 23, 2009 1:23 pm
Subject: Just checking...

sophiasmom10

Online Now

I have (sadly) been absent here for some time. Issues arise. I noticed today,
that Ansur said something about Su being gone now? Is she ok? Or just busy like
the rest of mankind (it seems). Blessings all ~Kat

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#16286

From: "Ansur" <lordansurpact@...>
Date: Thu Oct 22, 2009 1:47 pm
Subject: Welcome

lordansurpact

Offline

I want to welcome our new members.  Unfortunately, without the constant
leadership of the great and wonderful Su, originator of this site, there isn't
much going on...

In honor of Samhain, the latest subject was on ghosts.  So if you have any
insight or experiences, please post them.  Carol's actual touching a ghost like
it was a real/solid person was very interesting.

Our coven will be celebrating Samhain and then have a Dumb Supper--it will be
our third such 'supper'..  I had hoped that there would be some stronger
"astral-like" reactions but they didn't show up.  But perhaps that is good in a
house that had to be exorcised...  Our 'suppers' have become a way to remember
and honor our friends and relatives that have passed on.  Perhaps that is a
better reason to have them?

For you "older" members: CAZ says to say hello...  She's on Facebook with me.

Ansur

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#16285

From: "Ienpu" <Ienpu@...>
Date: Thu Oct 22, 2009 4:12 am
Subject: My Ghost Story was Re: Messages

ienpu

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Ye Gods..I think this is the list of Ghost....

#16284

From: "Catseye" <catseye71352@...>
Date: Sat Oct 17, 2009 10:10 pm
Subject: My Ghost Story was Re: Messages

catseye71352

Offline

O'Neill being Pagan, he took the ghost in stride, but I do think he gained a new
respect for my abilities and perceptions.

(I swear, if I had a dime for every time he deliberately disregarded warnings I
gave him about people and circumstances and I was later proved right, I could
retire. Which is why I am no longer with him.)

Catseye  ( (|) )

--- In wyrd_crossings@yahoogroups.com, "Melinda" <mbernert@...> wrote:
>
>
>   Wow, Cat, that is some experience! How did your husband take it?
>
>   In answer to Ansur's question: I do believe in non-corporeal beings, for
several reasons:
>   I've seen them and heard them as we live in a "haunted" house.
>   It's been 15 years of fun and frolic. I've come to the conclusion that we
live on or near a portal as we have many, many different spirits (for want of a
better word) who find themselves in our house and on the property.
>
> For the most part  it's been entertaining, if only a tad spooky. Although my
husband was getting very freaked out last year. Summer is dh's busiest time at
work so the kids and I would occasionally head to the beach for a few days. The
first time we left, Mark arrived home and the dogs and the cat were standing at
the bottom of the stairs looking up as the doors on the second floor opened and
slammed shut!
>  My dh ran to the garage and got our ancient rifle, positive that someone was
in our house. He ran upstairs, but no one was there. This occurred two other
times before I finally had a talk with "them."
>
>  Must do some work. More to come!
>
>  Herbygal
>
> --- In wyrd_crossings@yahoogroups.com, "Catseye" <catseye71352@> wrote:
> >
> > OK; it's almost Samhain, time to tell my NoPo Ghost Story.
>

#16283

From: "Catseye" <catseye71352@...>
Date: Sat Oct 17, 2009 10:07 pm
Subject: My Ghost Story was Re: Messages

catseye71352

Offline

In order to be able to physically touch the ghost-lady, I must have been half in
her world and half in my own. Not sure how that happened. It was in early
September, not really close to Samhain for the Veil to be thin.

Catseye  ( (|) )

--- In wyrd_crossings@yahoogroups.com, Lord Ansur <lordansurpact@...> wrote:
>
> Cool!!!
>
> Ansur
>
> --- On Fri, 10/16/09, Catseye <catseye71352@...> wrote:
>
> From: Catseye <catseye71352@...>
> Subject: [wyrd_crossings] My Ghost Story was Re: Messages
> To: wyrd_crossings@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Friday, October 16, 2009, 10:32 AM
>
>
>
>
>
>
> �
>
>
>
>
>
>                   OK; it's almost Samhain, time to tell my NoPo Ghost Story.
>
>
>
> Just after O'Neill and I arrived in Portland, we were at a party at a house in
North Portland. It was toward the end of the evening, and I went to use the
facilities. I was in the middle of things when a lady walked in on me. She was
very apologetic about it, so I told her no big deal. As I finished up and put
myself back together, we got into a conversation that led into my near-death
experience back in 1977. I unlocked the door to the restroom without even
thinking about it and said to her, "We can't talk in here; too noisy." So as we
went through the crowded kitchen, I put my hand on her elbow to help her through
the crowd, and we went out in the backyard. I offered her a beer from the keg,
which she refused. Just as I was telling her that I believed my NDE demonstrated
conclusively that Hell is a bald-faced lie, O'Neill came looking for me to go
home, and he asked me why I was standing there talking to an empty chair. I said
stupidly, "You mean you
>  don't _see_ her?" I turned around, and dang if the chair _wasn't_ empty.
(Later on, I felt her go into the Light.)
>
>
>
> Catseye  ( (|) )
>
>
>
> --- In wyrd_crossings@ yahoogroups. com, "Ansur" <lordansurpact@ ...> wrote:
>
> >
>
> > Except for this one, there have been no messages this month!
>
> >
>
> > Here's something to discuss:  I have been talking to some "Haunted People"
and find that most hear noises prior to an "attack".  These range from the
famous chain rattling to strange drumming to high pitched vibrations.  One
person described it: Like a warning that a rattle snake might give before
striking.
>
> >
>
> > Questions: Do ghosts really exist, or are they something else?  Or is it
just imagination?
>
> >
>
> > What do you think?  And if there are ghosts are they the spirits of the dead
or inhuman things acting like people?
>
> >
>
> > Ansur
>
> >
>

#16282

From: Lord Ansur <lordansurpact@...>
Date: Sat Oct 17, 2009 6:59 pm
Subject: Re: My Ghost Story was Re: Messages

lordansurpact

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So, the important question might be: Was the glass half full or half empty?

Ansur

--- On Sat, 10/17/09, Ienpu <Ienpu@...> wrote:

From: Ienpu <Ienpu@...>
Subject: [wyrd_crossings] My Ghost Story was Re: Messages
To: wyrd_crossings@yahoogroups.com
Date: Saturday, October 17, 2009, 11:53 AM

Questions: Do ghosts really exist, or are they something else? Or is it just imagination?

I believe in Ghost, oh yeah big time.

Once while at a friends, we where all sitting around a coffee table and I saw a glass slide across the table. I didn't say anything cause no one else did. But after a bit I noticed my friend David looks a bit off, so I asked him if he had sen the glass move. He looked so relieved and said yes, then everyone admitted to seeing the glass slide across the table. Our Hostess just laughed and said it happened all the time.

*Blink*

All the time?

Ienpu

#16281

From: "Ienpu" <Ienpu@...>
Date: Sat Oct 17, 2009 6:53 pm
Subject: My Ghost Story was Re: Messages

ienpu

Offline

Questions: Do ghosts really exist, or are they something else? Or is it just
imagination?

I believe in Ghost, oh yeah big time.

Once while at a friends, we where all sitting around a coffee table and I saw a
glass slide across the table. I didn't say anything cause no one else did. But
after a bit I noticed my friend David looks a bit off, so I asked him if he had
sen the glass move. He looked so relieved and said yes, then everyone admitted
to seeing the glass slide across the table. Our Hostess just laughed and said it
happened all the time.

*Blink*

All the time?

Ienpu

#16280

From: Lord Ansur <lordansurpact@...>
Date: Fri Oct 16, 2009 8:04 pm
Subject: Re: My Ghost Story was Re: Messages

lordansurpact

Offline

Cool!!!

Ansur

--- On Fri, 10/16/09, Catseye <catseye71352@...> wrote:

From: Catseye <catseye71352@...>
Subject: [wyrd_crossings] My Ghost Story was Re: Messages
To: wyrd_crossings@yahoogroups.com
Date: Friday, October 16, 2009, 10:32 AM

OK; it's almost Samhain, time to tell my NoPo Ghost Story.

Just after O'Neill and I arrived in Portland, we were at a party at a house in North Portland. It was toward the end of the evening, and I went to use the facilities. I was in the middle of things when a lady walked in on me. She was very apologetic about it, so I told her no big deal. As I finished up and put myself back together, we got into a conversation that led into my near-death experience back in 1977. I unlocked the door to the restroom without even thinking about it and said to her, "We can't talk in here; too noisy." So as we went through the crowded kitchen, I put my hand on her elbow to help her through the crowd, and we went out in the backyard. I offered her a beer from the keg, which she refused. Just as I was telling her that I believed my NDE demonstrated conclusively that Hell is a bald-faced lie, O'Neill came looking for me to go home, and he asked me why I was standing there talking to an empty chair. I said stupidly, "You mean you don't _see_ her?" I turned around, and dang if the chair _wasn't_ empty. (Later on, I felt her go into the Light.)

Catseye ( (|) )

--- In wyrd_crossings@ yahoogroups. com, "Ansur" <lordansurpact@ ...> wrote:
>
> Except for this one, there have been no messages this month!
>
> Here's something to discuss: I have been talking to some "Haunted People" and find that most hear noises prior to an "attack". These range from the famous chain rattling to strange drumming to high pitched vibrations. One person described it: Like a warning that a rattle snake might give before striking.
>
> Questions: Do ghosts really exist, or are they something else? Or is it just imagination?
>
> What do you think? And if there are ghosts are they the spirits of the dead or inhuman things acting like people?
>
> Ansur
>

#16279

From: "Melinda" <mbernert@...>
Date: Fri Oct 16, 2009 6:50 pm
Subject: My Ghost Story was Re: Messages

herbygal

Offline

Wow, Cat, that is some experience! How did your husband take it?

   In answer to Ansur's question: I do believe in non-corporeal beings, for
several reasons:
   I've seen them and heard them as we live in a "haunted" house.
   It's been 15 years of fun and frolic. I've come to the conclusion that we live
on or near a portal as we have many, many different spirits (for want of a
better word) who find themselves in our house and on the property.

For the most part  it's been entertaining, if only a tad spooky. Although my
husband was getting very freaked out last year. Summer is dh's busiest time at
work so the kids and I would occasionally head to the beach for a few days. The
first time we left, Mark arrived home and the dogs and the cat were standing at
the bottom of the stairs looking up as the doors on the second floor opened and
slammed shut!
  My dh ran to the garage and got our ancient rifle, positive that someone was in
our house. He ran upstairs, but no one was there. This occurred two other times
before I finally had a talk with "them."

  Must do some work. More to come!

  Herbygal

--- In wyrd_crossings@yahoogroups.com, "Catseye" <catseye71352@...> wrote:
>
> OK; it's almost Samhain, time to tell my NoPo Ghost Story.

#16278

From: george jackson <thebinder7@...>
Date: Fri Oct 16, 2009 5:50 pm
Subject: Re: Messages

thebinder7

Online Now

Grins... They are playing games or doing quizes on facebook or maybe posting "one liners" on twitter.....

George

--- On Fri, 10/16/09, Ansur <lordansurpact@...> wrote:

From: Ansur <lordansurpact@...>
Subject: [wyrd_crossings] Messages
To: wyrd_crossings@yahoogroups.com
Date: Friday, October 16, 2009, 12:25 AM

Except for this one, there have been no messages this month!

Here's something to discuss: I have been talking to some "Haunted People" and find that most hear noises prior to an "attack". These range from the famous chain rattling to strange drumming to high pitched vibrations. One person described it: Like a warning that a rattle snake might give before striking.

Questions: Do ghosts really exist, or are they something else? Or is it just imagination?

What do you think? And if there are ghosts are they the spirits of the dead or inhuman things acting like people?

Ansur

#16277

From: "Catseye" <catseye71352@...>
Date: Fri Oct 16, 2009 5:32 pm
Subject: My Ghost Story was Re: Messages

catseye71352

Offline

OK; it's almost Samhain, time to tell my NoPo Ghost Story.

Just after O'Neill and I arrived in Portland, we were at a party at a house in
North Portland. It was toward the end of the evening, and I went to use the
facilities. I was in the middle of things when a lady walked in on me. She was
very apologetic about it, so I told her no big deal. As I finished up and put
myself back together, we got into a conversation that led into my near-death
experience back in 1977. I unlocked the door to the restroom without even
thinking about it and said to her, "We can't talk in here; too noisy." So as we
went through the crowded kitchen, I put my hand on her elbow to help her through
the crowd, and we went out in the backyard. I offered her a beer from the keg,
which she refused. Just as I was telling her that I believed my NDE demonstrated
conclusively that Hell is a bald-faced lie, O'Neill came looking for me to go
home, and he asked me why I was standing there talking to an empty chair. I said
stupidly, "You mean you don't _see_ her?" I turned around, and dang if the chair
_wasn't_ empty. (Later on, I felt her go into the Light.)

Catseye  ( (|) )

--- In wyrd_crossings@yahoogroups.com, "Ansur" <lordansurpact@...> wrote:
>
> Except for this one, there have been no messages this month!
>
> Here's something to discuss:  I have been talking to some "Haunted People" and
find that most hear noises prior to an "attack".  These range from the famous
chain rattling to strange drumming to high pitched vibrations.  One person
described it: Like a warning that a rattle snake might give before striking.
>
> Questions: Do ghosts really exist, or are they something else?  Or is it just
imagination?
>
> What do you think?  And if there are ghosts are they the spirits of the dead
or inhuman things acting like people?
>
> Ansur
>

#16276

From: "Ansur" <lordansurpact@...>
Date: Fri Oct 16, 2009 7:25 am
Subject: Messages

lordansurpact

Offline

Except for this one, there have been no messages this month!

Here's something to discuss:  I have been talking to some "Haunted People" and
find that most hear noises prior to an "attack".  These range from the famous
chain rattling to strange drumming to high pitched vibrations.  One person
described it: Like a warning that a rattle snake might give before striking.

Questions: Do ghosts really exist, or are they something else?  Or is it just
imagination?

What do you think?  And if there are ghosts are they the spirits of the dead or
inhuman things acting like people?

Ansur

#16275

From: "retard_vampyre" <retard_vampyre@...>
Date: Thu Sep 17, 2009 4:53 pm
Subject: Re: Reality and Imagination

retard_vampyre

Offline

--- In wyrd_crossings@yahoogroups.com, mehdi ebrahimpour <ebrahimpour@...>
wrote:
>
> G'Day
>
> Thank you for the info. I have already checked it out but I could not find my
answer.
> Let me ask it in another words. Is there any possibility of  physical
realization of our eidetics? for instance, when we created a pen in the eidetic
world, can we  make a physical counterpart for it in the real world? any eidetic
object has at least a physical counterpart? if yes, changing objects in eidetic
world may change their physical counterpart(s)? if yes, will the reverse be
true?
>
> Mehdi
>
> --- On Wed, 9/2/09, retard_vampyre <retard_vampyre@...> wrote:
>
> From: retard_vampyre <retard_vampyre@...>
> Subject: [wyrd_crossings] Re: Reality and Imagination
> To: wyrd_crossings@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Wednesday, September 2, 2009, 8:16 PM
>
>
>
>
>
>
> �
>
>
>
>
>
>                   --- In wyrd_crossings@ yahoogroups. com, mehdi ebrahimpour
<ebrahimpour@ ...> wrote:
>
> >
>
> > G'Day
>
> >
>
> > Essentially, is there any special separating edge between reality and
imagination?
>
> > If yes, how can a magician do some magickal actions in imaginary world and
then make some physical realization of them?
>
> >
>
> > Mehdi
>
> >
>
> you should check out Su's group Re Eidetic Magic on myspace and read thru the
files.
>
>
>
> I'm not sure, but this might be the link... I'm using the library wifi, and
myspace is blocked to me, but this is the bookmark I have.
>
>
>
> http://groups. myspace.com/ index.cfm? fuseaction= groups.groupProf
ile&groupID= 104145581& Mytoken=EF034693 -D751-49DC- ACB181392909B1BE 32220829
>



Define "Reality"
IMO, Reality is subjective.
All we know or realize is based on electro chemical impulses.
To the functional system of neural activity that creates our world,there is no
difference between dreaming a perception and an action and the actual waking
perception and action.
Maintaining boundaries between what one considers the waking (reality) mind and
the other(imagination, or other mind)I seriously doubt anything will manifest
with such a mindset.

#16274

From: mehdi ebrahimpour <ebrahimpour@...>
Date: Sat Sep 5, 2009 4:54 am
Subject: Re: Re: Reality and Imagination

ebrahimpour

Offline

Dear Lord Ansur

As always, your words were insightful. Thank you.

Mehdi

--- On Fri, 9/4/09, Lord Ansur <lordansurpact@...> wrote:

From: Lord Ansur <lordansurpact@...>
Subject: Re: [wyrd_crossings] Re: Reality and Imagination
To: wyrd_crossings@yahoogroups.com
Date: Friday, September 4, 2009, 4:58 PM

Dear Mehdi:

It is likely that there is no ultimate truth. And if there were, it is likely that we couldn't understand it. The universe is not only strange, it is stranger than we can even imagine. And even scientifically speaking, we are finding out we know a lot less about the complexities of the universe than we assumed we did.

The lazy and the dumb accept the truths as they are given them by certain people claiming to be enlightened. Those that are actually more enlightened accept the evidence expressed by the 'satisfied' masses but know that ever greater truths are available to be temporarily adopted--when they are realized. This is the path of progress: The attitude that ever better more accurate truths are available to those that seek them.

Another way of looking at it is that if you are satisfied with others' answers--including mine--you will stagnate--like the mundane bulk of humanity. If you wish to advance, you must forever be the seeker and understand that all possibilities exist--nothing is denied to those that follow the road of life but look beyond the horizon.

May you find the way--your way,

Ansur.

--- On Fri, 9/4/09, mehdi ebrahimpour <ebrahimpour@ yahoo.com> wrote:

From: mehdi ebrahimpour <ebrahimpour@ yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [wyrd_crossings] Re: Reality and Imagination
To: wyrd_crossings@ yahoogroups. com
Date: Friday, September 4, 2009, 3:06 AM

G'Day Dear Lord

I am agree with you but would you please describe that truer reality? Why do you say that thinking out of the box can make a greater and truer reality? That would be another reality but why it should not be falser or smaller?!

Mehdi

--- On Fri, 9/4/09, Lord Ansur <lordansurpact@ yahoo.com> wrote:

From: Lord Ansur <lordansurpact@ yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [wyrd_crossings] Re: Reality and Imagination
To: wyrd_crossings@ yahoogroups. com
Date: Friday, September 4, 2009, 3:37 AM

All I know is that it is possible to realise a greater, more encompassing, truer reality by thinking outside the box...

Ansur

--- On Thu, 9/3/09, mehdi ebrahimpour <ebrahimpour@ yahoo.com> wrote:

From: mehdi ebrahimpour <ebrahimpour@ yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [wyrd_crossings] Re: Reality and Imagination
To: wyrd_crossings@ yahoogroups. com
Date: Thursday, September 3, 2009, 1:47 PM

G'Day

Thank you for the info. I have already checked it out but I could not find my answer.
Let me ask it in another words. Is there any possibility of physical realization of our eidetics? for instance, when we created a pen in the eidetic world, can we make a physical counterpart for it in the real world? any eidetic object has at least a physical counterpart? if yes, changing objects in eidetic world may change their physical counterpart( s)? if yes, will the reverse be true?

Mehdi

--- On Wed, 9/2/09, retard_vampyre <retard_vampyre@ yahoo.com> wrote:

From: retard_vampyre <retard_vampyre@ yahoo.com>
Subject: [wyrd_crossings] Re: Reality and Imagination
To: wyrd_crossings@ yahoogroups. com
Date: Wednesday, September 2, 2009, 8:16 PM

--- In wyrd_crossings@ yahoogroups. com, mehdi ebrahimpour <ebrahimpour@ ...> wrote:
>
> G'Day
>
> Essentially, is there any special separating edge between reality and imagination?
> If yes, how can a magician do some magickal actions in imaginary world and then make some physical realization of them?
>
> Mehdi
>
you should check out Su's group Re Eidetic Magic on myspace and read thru the files.

I'm not sure, but this might be the link... I'm using the library wifi, and myspace is blocked to me, but this is the bookmark I have.

http://groups. myspace.com/ index.cfm? fuseaction= groups.groupProf ile&groupID= 104145581& Mytoken=EF034693 -D751-49DC- ACB181392909B1BE 32220829

#16273

From: Lord Ansur <lordansurpact@...>
Date: Fri Sep 4, 2009 12:28 pm
Subject: Re: Re: Reality and Imagination

lordansurpact

Offline

Dear Mehdi:

It is likely that there is no ultimate truth. And if there were, it is likely that we couldn't understand it. The universe is not only strange, it is stranger than we can even imagine. And even scientifically speaking, we are finding out we know a lot less about the complexities of the universe than we assumed we did.

The lazy and the dumb accept the truths as they are given them by certain people claiming to be enlightened. Those that are actually more enlightened accept the evidence expressed by the 'satisfied' masses but know that ever greater truths are available to be temporarily adopted--when they are realized. This is the path of progress: The attitude that ever better more accurate truths are available to those that seek them.

Another way of looking at it is that if you are satisfied with others' answers--including mine--you will stagnate--like the mundane bulk of humanity. If you wish to advance, you must forever be the seeker and understand that all possibilities exist--nothing is denied to those that follow the road of life but look beyond the horizon.

May you find the way--your way,

Ansur.

--- On Fri, 9/4/09, mehdi ebrahimpour <ebrahimpour@...> wrote:

From: mehdi ebrahimpour <ebrahimpour@...>
Subject: Re: [wyrd_crossings] Re: Reality and Imagination
To: wyrd_crossings@yahoogroups.com
Date: Friday, September 4, 2009, 3:06 AM

G'Day Dear Lord

I am agree with you but would you please describe that truer reality? Why do you say that thinking out of the box can make a greater and truer reality? That would be another reality but why it should not be falser or smaller?!

Mehdi

--- On Fri, 9/4/09, Lord Ansur <lordansurpact@ yahoo.com> wrote:

From: Lord Ansur <lordansurpact@ yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [wyrd_crossings] Re: Reality and Imagination
To: wyrd_crossings@ yahoogroups. com
Date: Friday, September 4, 2009, 3:37 AM

All I know is that it is possible to realise a greater, more encompassing, truer reality by thinking outside the box...

Ansur

--- On Thu, 9/3/09, mehdi ebrahimpour <ebrahimpour@ yahoo.com> wrote:

From: mehdi ebrahimpour <ebrahimpour@ yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [wyrd_crossings] Re: Reality and Imagination
To: wyrd_crossings@ yahoogroups. com
Date: Thursday, September 3, 2009, 1:47 PM

G'Day

Thank you for the info. I have already checked it out but I could not find my answer.
Let me ask it in another words. Is there any possibility of physical realization of our eidetics? for instance, when we created a pen in the eidetic world, can we make a physical counterpart for it in the real world? any eidetic object has at least a physical counterpart? if yes, changing objects in eidetic world may change their physical counterpart( s)? if yes, will the reverse be true?

Mehdi

--- On Wed, 9/2/09, retard_vampyre <retard_vampyre@ yahoo.com> wrote:

From: retard_vampyre <retard_vampyre@ yahoo.com>
Subject: [wyrd_crossings] Re: Reality and Imagination
To: wyrd_crossings@ yahoogroups. com
Date: Wednesday, September 2, 2009, 8:16 PM

--- In wyrd_crossings@ yahoogroups. com, mehdi ebrahimpour <ebrahimpour@ ...> wrote:
>
> G'Day
>
> Essentially, is there any special separating edge between reality and imagination?
> If yes, how can a magician do some magickal actions in imaginary world and then make some physical realization of them?
>
> Mehdi
>
you should check out Su's group Re Eidetic Magic on myspace and read thru the files.

I'm not sure, but this might be the link... I'm using the library wifi, and myspace is blocked to me, but this is the bookmark I have.

http://groups. myspace.com/ index.cfm? fuseaction= groups.groupProf ile&groupID= 104145581& Mytoken=EF034693 -D751-49DC- ACB181392909B1BE 32220829

#16272

From: mehdi ebrahimpour <ebrahimpour@...>
Date: Fri Sep 4, 2009 10:12 am
Subject: Re: Re: Reality and Imagination

ebrahimpour

Offline

G'Day Dear George

Yes, but suppose I have made an object, for example a pen, and you can see its eidetic form. If you change it in eidetics world, should I see any form of change in its physical counterpart? It is about modifying physical objects remotely...

Mehdi

--- On Fri, 9/4/09, george jackson <thebinder7@...> wrote:

From: george jackson <thebinder7@...>
Subject: Re: [wyrd_crossings] Re: Reality and Imagination
To: wyrd_crossings@yahoogroups.com
Date: Friday, September 4, 2009, 5:31 AM

The answer is yes... The things we make in the physical world begin as concepts in the eidetic, the mental images of the things we will shape with our hands. Further, viewing what we have shaped with our hands we can sometimes see how they can be improved on so the change I think you are speaking about happens fairly frequently.

--- On Thu, 9/3/09, mehdi ebrahimpour <ebrahimpour@ yahoo.com> wrote:

From: mehdi ebrahimpour <ebrahimpour@ yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [wyrd_crossings] Re: Reality and Imagination
To: wyrd_crossings@ yahoogroups. com
Date: Thursday, September 3, 2009, 1:47 PM

G'Day

Thank you for the info. I have already checked it out but I could not find my answer.
Let me ask it in another words. Is there any possibility of physical realization of our eidetics? for instance, when we created a pen in the eidetic world, can we make a physical counterpart for it in the real world? any eidetic object has at least a physical counterpart? if yes, changing objects in eidetic world may change their physical counterpart( s)? if yes, will the reverse be true?

Mehdi

--- On Wed, 9/2/09, retard_vampyre <retard_vampyre@ yahoo.com> wrote:

From: retard_vampyre <retard_vampyre@ yahoo.com>
Subject: [wyrd_crossings] Re: Reality and Imagination
To: wyrd_crossings@ yahoogroups. com
Date: Wednesday, September 2, 2009, 8:16 PM

--- In wyrd_crossings@ yahoogroups. com, mehdi ebrahimpour <ebrahimpour@ ...> wrote:
>
> G'Day
>
> Essentially, is there any special separating edge between reality and imagination?
> If yes, how can a magician do some magickal actions in imaginary world and then make some physical realization of them?
>
> Mehdi
>
you should check out Su's group Re Eidetic Magic on myspace and read thru the files.

I'm not sure, but this might be the link... I'm using the library wifi, and myspace is blocked to me, but this is the bookmark I have.

http://groups. myspace.com/ index.cfm? fuseaction= groups.groupProf ile&groupID= 104145581& Mytoken=EF034693 -D751-49DC- ACB181392909B1BE 32220829

#16271

From: mehdi ebrahimpour <ebrahimpour@...>
Date: Fri Sep 4, 2009 10:06 am
Subject: Re: Re: Reality and Imagination

ebrahimpour

Offline

G'Day Dear Lord

I am agree with you but would you please describe that truer reality? Why do you say that thinking out of the box can make a greater and truer reality? That would be another reality but why it should not be falser or smaller?!

Mehdi

--- On Fri, 9/4/09, Lord Ansur <lordansurpact@...> wrote:

From: Lord Ansur <lordansurpact@...>
Subject: Re: [wyrd_crossings] Re: Reality and Imagination
To: wyrd_crossings@yahoogroups.com
Date: Friday, September 4, 2009, 3:37 AM

All I know is that it is possible to realise a greater, more encompassing, truer reality by thinking outside the box...

Ansur

--- On Thu, 9/3/09, mehdi ebrahimpour <ebrahimpour@ yahoo.com> wrote:

From: mehdi ebrahimpour <ebrahimpour@ yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [wyrd_crossings] Re: Reality and Imagination
To: wyrd_crossings@ yahoogroups. com
Date: Thursday, September 3, 2009, 1:47 PM

G'Day

Thank you for the info. I have already checked it out but I could not find my answer.
Let me ask it in another words. Is there any possibility of physical realization of our eidetics? for instance, when we created a pen in the eidetic world, can we make a physical counterpart for it in the real world? any eidetic object has at least a physical counterpart? if yes, changing objects in eidetic world may change their physical counterpart( s)? if yes, will the reverse be true?

Mehdi

--- On Wed, 9/2/09, retard_vampyre <retard_vampyre@ yahoo.com> wrote:

From: retard_vampyre <retard_vampyre@ yahoo.com>
Subject: [wyrd_crossings] Re: Reality and Imagination
To: wyrd_crossings@ yahoogroups. com
Date: Wednesday, September 2, 2009, 8:16 PM

--- In wyrd_crossings@ yahoogroups. com, mehdi ebrahimpour <ebrahimpour@ ...> wrote:
>
> G'Day
>
> Essentially, is there any special separating edge between reality and imagination?
> If yes, how can a magician do some magickal actions in imaginary world and then make some physical realization of them?
>
> Mehdi
>
you should check out Su's group Re Eidetic Magic on myspace and read thru the files.

I'm not sure, but this might be the link... I'm using the library wifi, and myspace is blocked to me, but this is the bookmark I have.

http://groups. myspace.com/ index.cfm? fuseaction= groups.groupProf ile&groupID= 104145581& Mytoken=EF034693 -D751-49DC- ACB181392909B1BE 32220829

#16270

From: Lord Ansur <lordansurpact@...>
Date: Fri Sep 4, 2009 2:26 am
Subject: Re: Re: Reality and Imagination

lordansurpact

Offline

As long as you don't hit your head on the cardboard!

Ansur

--- On Thu, 9/3/09, Sam McConnich <rpgstarwizard@...> wrote:

From: Sam McConnich <rpgstarwizard@...>
Subject: Re: [wyrd_crossings] Re: Reality and Imagination
To: wyrd_crossings@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thursday, September 3, 2009, 6:54 PM

can we really think outide the BOX?

From: Lord Ansur <lordansurpact@ yahoo.com>
To: wyrd_crossings@ yahoogroups. com
Sent: Thursday, September 3, 2009 7:07:51 PM
Subject: Re: [wyrd_crossings] Re: Reality and Imagination

All I know is that it is possible to realise a greater, more encompassing, truer reality by thinking outside the box...

Ansur

--- On Thu, 9/3/09, mehdi ebrahimpour <ebrahimpour@ yahoo.com> wrote:

From: mehdi ebrahimpour <ebrahimpour@ yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [wyrd_crossings] Re: Reality and Imagination
To: wyrd_crossings@ yahoogroups. com
Date: Thursday, September 3, 2009, 1:47 PM

G'Day

Thank you for the info. I have already checked it out but I could not find my answer.
Let me ask it in another words. Is there any possibility of physical realization of our eidetics? for instance, when we created a pen in the eidetic world, can we make a physical counterpart for it in the real world? any eidetic object has at least a physical counterpart? if yes, changing objects in eidetic world may change their physical counterpart( s)? if yes, will the reverse be true?

Mehdi

--- On Wed, 9/2/09, retard_vampyre <retard_vampyre@ yahoo.com> wrote:

From: retard_vampyre <retard_vampyre@ yahoo.com>
Subject: [wyrd_crossings] Re: Reality and Imagination
To: wyrd_crossings@ yahoogroups. com
Date: Wednesday, September 2, 2009, 8:16 PM

--- In wyrd_crossings@ yahoogroups. com, mehdi ebrahimpour <ebrahimpour@ ...> wrote:
>
> G'Day
>
> Essentially, is there any special separating edge between reality and imagination?
> If yes, how can a magician do some magickal actions in imaginary world and then make some physical realization of them?
>
> Mehdi
>
you should check out Su's group Re Eidetic Magic on myspace and read thru the files.

I'm not sure, but this might be the link... I'm using the library wifi, and myspace is blocked to me, but this is the bookmark I have.

http://groups. myspace.com/ index.cfm? fuseaction= groups.groupProf ile&groupID= 104145581& Mytoken=EF034693 -D751-49DC- ACB181392909B1BE 32220829

#16269

From: Sam McConnich <rpgstarwizard@...>
Date: Fri Sep 4, 2009 1:54 am
Subject: Re: Re: Reality and Imagination

rpgstarwizard

Offline

can we really think outide the BOX?

From: Lord Ansur <lordansurpact@...>
To: wyrd_crossings@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, September 3, 2009 7:07:51 PM
Subject: Re: [wyrd_crossings] Re: Reality and Imagination

All I know is that it is possible to realise a greater, more encompassing, truer reality by thinking outside the box...

Ansur

--- On Thu, 9/3/09, mehdi ebrahimpour <ebrahimpour@ yahoo.com> wrote:

From: mehdi ebrahimpour <ebrahimpour@ yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [wyrd_crossings] Re: Reality and Imagination
To: wyrd_crossings@ yahoogroups. com
Date: Thursday, September 3, 2009, 1:47 PM

G'Day

Thank you for the info. I have already checked it out but I could not find my answer.
Let me ask it in another words. Is there any possibility of physical realization of our eidetics? for instance, when we created a pen in the eidetic world, can we make a physical counterpart for it in the real world? any eidetic object has at least a physical counterpart? if yes, changing objects in eidetic world may change their physical counterpart( s)? if yes, will the reverse be true?

Mehdi

--- On Wed, 9/2/09, retard_vampyre <retard_vampyre@ yahoo.com> wrote:

From: retard_vampyre <retard_vampyre@ yahoo.com>
Subject: [wyrd_crossings] Re: Reality and Imagination
To: wyrd_crossings@ yahoogroups. com
Date: Wednesday, September 2, 2009, 8:16 PM

--- In wyrd_crossings@ yahoogroups. com, mehdi ebrahimpour <ebrahimpour@ ...> wrote:
>
> G'Day
>
> Essentially, is there any special separating edge between reality and imagination?
> If yes, how can a magician do some magickal actions in imaginary world and then make some physical realization of them?
>
> Mehdi
>
you should check out Su's group Re Eidetic Magic on myspace and read thru the files.

I'm not sure, but this might be the link... I'm using the library wifi, and myspace is blocked to me, but this is the bookmark I have.

http://groups. myspace.com/ index.cfm? fuseaction= groups.groupProf ile&groupID= 104145581& Mytoken=EF034693 -D751-49DC- ACB181392909B1BE 32220829

#16268

From: george jackson <thebinder7@...>
Date: Fri Sep 4, 2009 1:01 am
Subject: Re: Re: Reality and Imagination

thebinder7

Online Now

The answer is yes... The things we make in the physical world begin as concepts in the eidetic, the mental images of the things we will shape with our hands. Further, viewing what we have shaped with our hands we can sometimes see how they can be improved on so the change I think you are speaking about happens fairly frequently.

--- On Thu, 9/3/09, mehdi ebrahimpour <ebrahimpour@...> wrote:

From: mehdi ebrahimpour <ebrahimpour@...>
Subject: Re: [wyrd_crossings] Re: Reality and Imagination
To: wyrd_crossings@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thursday, September 3, 2009, 1:47 PM

G'Day

Thank you for the info. I have already checked it out but I could not find my answer.
Let me ask it in another words. Is there any possibility of physical realization of our eidetics? for instance, when we created a pen in the eidetic world, can we make a physical counterpart for it in the real world? any eidetic object has at least a physical counterpart? if yes, changing objects in eidetic world may change their physical counterpart( s)? if yes, will the reverse be true?

Mehdi

--- On Wed, 9/2/09, retard_vampyre <retard_vampyre@ yahoo.com> wrote:

From: retard_vampyre <retard_vampyre@ yahoo.com>
Subject: [wyrd_crossings] Re: Reality and Imagination
To: wyrd_crossings@ yahoogroups. com
Date: Wednesday, September 2, 2009, 8:16 PM

--- In wyrd_crossings@ yahoogroups. com, mehdi ebrahimpour <ebrahimpour@ ...> wrote:
>
> G'Day
>
> Essentially, is there any special separating edge between reality and imagination?
> If yes, how can a magician do some magickal actions in imaginary world and then make some physical realization of them?
>
> Mehdi
>
you should check out Su's group Re Eidetic Magic on myspace and read thru the files.

I'm not sure, but this might be the link... I'm using the library wifi, and myspace is blocked to me, but this is the bookmark I have.

http://groups. myspace.com/ index.cfm? fuseaction= groups.groupProf ile&groupID= 104145581& Mytoken=EF034693 -D751-49DC- ACB181392909B1BE 32220829

#16267

From: Lord Ansur <lordansurpact@...>
Date: Thu Sep 3, 2009 11:07 pm
Subject: Re: Re: Reality and Imagination

lordansurpact

Offline

All I know is that it is possible to realise a greater, more encompassing, truer reality by thinking outside the box...

Ansur

--- On Thu, 9/3/09, mehdi ebrahimpour <ebrahimpour@...> wrote:

From: mehdi ebrahimpour <ebrahimpour@...>
Subject: Re: [wyrd_crossings] Re: Reality and Imagination
To: wyrd_crossings@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thursday, September 3, 2009, 1:47 PM

G'Day

Thank you for the info. I have already checked it out but I could not find my answer.
Let me ask it in another words. Is there any possibility of physical realization of our eidetics? for instance, when we created a pen in the eidetic world, can we make a physical counterpart for it in the real world? any eidetic object has at least a physical counterpart? if yes, changing objects in eidetic world may change their physical counterpart( s)? if yes, will the reverse be true?

Mehdi

--- On Wed, 9/2/09, retard_vampyre <retard_vampyre@ yahoo.com> wrote:

From: retard_vampyre <retard_vampyre@ yahoo.com>
Subject: [wyrd_crossings] Re: Reality and Imagination
To: wyrd_crossings@ yahoogroups. com
Date: Wednesday, September 2, 2009, 8:16 PM

--- In wyrd_crossings@ yahoogroups. com, mehdi ebrahimpour <ebrahimpour@ ...> wrote:
>
> G'Day
>
> Essentially, is there any special separating edge between reality and imagination?
> If yes, how can a magician do some magickal actions in imaginary world and then make some physical realization of them?
>
> Mehdi
>
you should check out Su's group Re Eidetic Magic on myspace and read thru the files.

I'm not sure, but this might be the link... I'm using the library wifi, and myspace is blocked to me, but this is the bookmark I have.

http://groups. myspace.com/ index.cfm? fuseaction= groups.groupProf ile&groupID= 104145581& Mytoken=EF034693 -D751-49DC- ACB181392909B1BE 32220829

#16266

From: mehdi ebrahimpour <ebrahimpour@...>
Date: Thu Sep 3, 2009 8:47 pm
Subject: Re: Re: Reality and Imagination

ebrahimpour

Offline

G'Day

Thank you for the info. I have already checked it out but I could not find my answer.
Let me ask it in another words. Is there any possibility of physical realization of our eidetics? for instance, when we created a pen in the eidetic world, can we make a physical counterpart for it in the real world? any eidetic object has at least a physical counterpart? if yes, changing objects in eidetic world may change their physical counterpart(s)? if yes, will the reverse be true?

Mehdi

--- On Wed, 9/2/09, retard_vampyre <retard_vampyre@...> wrote:

From: retard_vampyre <retard_vampyre@...>
Subject: [wyrd_crossings] Re: Reality and Imagination
To: wyrd_crossings@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, September 2, 2009, 8:16 PM

--- In wyrd_crossings@ yahoogroups. com, mehdi ebrahimpour <ebrahimpour@ ...> wrote:
>
> G'Day
>
> Essentially, is there any special separating edge between reality and imagination?
> If yes, how can a magician do some magickal actions in imaginary world and then make some physical realization of them?
>
> Mehdi
>
you should check out Su's group Re Eidetic Magic on myspace and read thru the files.

I'm not sure, but this might be the link... I'm using the library wifi, and myspace is blocked to me, but this is the bookmark I have.

http://groups. myspace.com/ index.cfm? fuseaction= groups.groupProf ile&groupID= 104145581& Mytoken=EF034693 -D751-49DC- ACB181392909B1BE 32220829