Dear Nickelodeon, First, I’m terribly sorry for addressing you in this fashion (the alternative would have been Dear Nickelous). You see, your comments toMessage 1 of 2 , Oct 7, 2007View SourceDear Nickelodeon,First, Im terribly sorry for addressing you in this fashion (the alternative would have been Dear Nickelous). You see, your comments to Carlo Fortunas letter was unsigned making it difficult to determine who sent it. The e-mail message indicated it came from a web address that starts with Neekelle yada yada. Also, it was equally difficult, from the web address, to determine whether the writer is a SHE or a HE - or someone in-between.At any rate, thanks for copying me with your comments. I take this opportunity as well to thank all those who shared with me their repartee to Mr. Fortunas letter. A special thanks to those who provided me with a copy of the Petition that started all this very interesting chain of events.This forum has been dormant for quite sometime, and rightly so. With the elections over it was time for the losers to lick their wounds and sulk; and for the winners to come together and sit down to focus on the problem of governance. This forum has remained unobtrusive to give the new administration time to do its business - in tackling Mandaues problems without any unnecessary interruption.Then comes this petition by the CONCERNED CITIZENS OF MANDAUE CITY.I have read with eager interest the petition, Mr. Fortunas reply, and all the comments and counter-comments thereto. And like you, Nicky (short for Nickelodeon), I make the following comments:The Right to PETITIONPhilippine political law provides for the public to petition their government for grievances, etc. etc. etc. So the petitioners were in the absolute correct, and within their right to request their local officials for transparency in the conduct of their duties.A signed Petition for this purpose involving more than one individual - was the right vehicle to use. And regardless whether a grievance/request is real or imagined or already implemented, the Petitioners, certainly were within their right to petition and therefore, deserve to be treated with respect. As a student of Political Law, Mr. Fortuna, knows this or does he?UNDIPLOMATIC AND TACTLESSMr. Fortuna, is a public official, and sworn to serve the people who elected him to office. And as a public servant, he swore to do this (or was this soon forgotten?). He should have demonstrated this in his reply to the petitioners request.A simple thank you for the petitioners show of civic mindedness, and interest in the Councils workings, would have been a show of tact. Also, He could have been more diplomatic by informing the petitioners that the Council in session would be apprised of their request; further assuring them that (although implementation was already in place), he will personally conduct a follow-up to ensure continuance of the practice of transparency in the Council.End of debate and contentiousness had he done the above. Unfortunately, it was not to be. Mr. Fortuna, unfortunately, loves to spin. He chose to write a lengthy, tiresome, superfluous, redundant, rambling and disconnected, defensive, condescending, pompous and sarcastic, reply in response to petitioners three-short-paragraph-letter-request. Mr. Fortunas reply was utterly destitute - devoid of any perception of savoire-faire.But of course there are obvious reasons why Mr. Fortuna, replied in the fashion that he did his being defensive. We will deal with this later. And this is a promise.PUBLIC VS INDIVIDUALMr. Fortunas contention that this could have been handled by phone or letter makes no sense at all. An individual with a complaint/request may call or write a letter, but groups (or the public), need to address their complaints/grievances by Petition. Mr. Fortuna, knows this. Or again, does he really?Signed Petitions are formal and goes into the public domain, whereas individual complaints are more of a one-to-one interaction and may not be known to anyone else except between the complainant and public official. The problem about the latter case is that, kay ikaw ra mang usa ang ming reklamo, dili kini hatagan ug gimbug-aton. Ang mahitabo ma-o nga ang imong guisulting reklamo o gitawag sa telepono mahayuta lang,ug ang imong guisulat, adto madiposito sa basurahan. Nakasabut ka? Ug sa mga Italyano pa, Kapish?So, is it any wonder that Mr. Fortuna, would prefer phone calls and letters, more than the publicity of a Petition?RYANTo be continued. Watch for Nickelodeon II ...
Eli, I believe you spoke for a lot of us out there who are not so outspoken and especially those who do not have e-mail and can not share their thoughts.Message 1 of 2 , Oct 8, 2007View SourceEli, I believe you spoke for a lot of us out there who are not so outspoken and especially those who do not have e-mail and can not share their thoughts. Thanks.-----Original Message-----
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Subject: RE: Mandaue - Dear Nickelodeon
>This forum has been dormant for quite sometime, and rightly so. With the elections over it was time for the losers to lick their wounds and sulk; and for the winners >to come together and sit down to focus on the problem of governance. This forum has remained unobtrusive to give the new administration time to do its business >- in tackling Mandaue's problems - without any unnecessary interruption.
I certainly hope that Mandaue political leaders are not as insular as you picture them to be. Mandaue has far too many problems and so much remaining to be achieved for those who lost in the last elections to be sulking. Can't we have a Mandaue where winners and losers work together after the elections for the good of our fair city and other Mandauehanons? Sulking is only for spoiled brats who fail to get what they want. Call me naïve but I would like to view our political leaders as mature, accomplished and intelligent, with the prime objective of making our city the best that it can be. Someone in this forum once said that Mandaue is rich of people with exceptional intelligence. Can't we utilize these brains to achieve an earthly paradise for Mandauehanons? Together, we can make the Mandaue of our dreams.
I was one of many who promised never again to be silent if Mandaue were to be abused by its political leaders. With the acquiescence of the members, you can rest assured that this forum will be dormant no more if a travesty were to happen again.
Yours for a great Mandaue,