Was it just me or did anyone else get confused by what happened at Miguel s on Friday? For those that didn t know, there was an advertised event of 3 bands toMessage 1 of 10 , Sep 3, 2002View SourceWas it just me or did anyone else get confused by what happened at Miguel's on Friday?
For those that didn't know, there was an advertised event of 3 bands to perform at Miguel's on Friday. Tickets were being passed out regularly to get in and an advertised price of $20 was being promoted. The tickets clearly read "General admission" while on the bottom included a statement that read "Ladies Free before 9:00 pm". My interpretation was simply if you have a ticket you get in, if you are a lady you can get in before 9:00 for free. What really happened was that first you had to be a lady, it had to be before 9:00, and you had to have a ticket to get in. Everyone else was $20, well at least it was $20 before 9:00. After that, they managed to raise the price to $30 per person regardless. So what does all this mean, well it meant a half empty club for the most part. Many people were left standing outside debating if it was worth it or not.
The advertising to this event was so misleading, can we ever trust Miguel's to get it right in the future. What is the real problem here? Was it really a misunderstanding or was it a bait and switch scam. A few weeks ago there was a misunderstanding at Iron Cactus. They advertised $5 and were charging $7. Only a 2 dollar difference, but it was the principle. In that case, I applaude Dario for responding and showing integrity by first apologizing for the misunderstanding, and then offering compensation. Dario showed a clear understanding that it is the people who show up that make the difference and should be treated with respect.
Second, what is the deal with such a high price for cover anyways? Do 3 bands really require such an increase. Have we forgotten we live in Austin and not LA or NY where high prices are expected. The length of time played by each band cannot justify such a rise in price. The total length in time was equal if not less than any normal night. In fact, not all 3 bands showed up, but yet no refunds were granted. I know they argue, that the band has to be paid. They point out that it is the cover that pays the band. If this is true, then why is it the people at the door have the descretion to charge whomever they like at whatever price they feel. Is this not taking profit away from the band?
Finally, would this be such a problem if we had choices? It's unfortunate that there is really only one place to go to dance and they can do whatever they want. I still remember when the service industry catered to it's customers. Service was high priority and the staff was always friendly. I can't help but think if there was another place to go dance, that such a misunderstanding would not have happened. It's no surprise that more and more people are looking for other options. As for me, the next time Miguel's has any kind of event, I'll make plans to be in San Antonio, Houston, or Dallas that weekend.
I totally agree!!!! If there was another place that played salsa to go and hang out it would be pretty nice too. Perhaps, we need to start asking other clubsMessage 1 of 10 , Sep 3, 2002View SourceI totally agree!!!! If there was another place that played salsa to go and hang out it would be pretty nice too. Perhaps, we need to start asking other clubs like speakeasy, and others to have a salsa night so Miguel's can lower their general prices and also we can have an option where to go.
I m just re-sending an e-mail we all received from Teletha Smith on August 16th with all the information on the Sunday Salsa Social since some of you haveMessage 1 of 10 , Sep 4, 2002View SourceI'm just re-sending an e-mail we all received from Teletha Smith on August 16th with all the information on the Sunday Salsa Social since some of you have asked for it.
Sounds like it will be a lot of fun!!
Also, isn't there a salsa night at Sullivan's tomorrow, Thursday, the 5th from 9-1:00?
From Moderator, here are the archived messages instead:
Social - http://groups.yahoo.com/group/austinsalsa/message/964
Ringside - http://groups.yahoo.com/group/austinsalsa/message/972
If you are looking for an alternative to the expensive cover charges at the clubs or you prefer to get out of the heat and dance in a nice cool environmentMessage 1 of 10 , Sep 4, 2002View SourceIf you are looking for an alternative to the expensive cover charges at the clubs or you prefer to get out of the heat and dance in a nice cool environment with a fabulous wood floor or you are just ready for a professional dj who caters to the salsa dancer and music lover, then come join the rest of the Austin Salsa Community for the first monthly Sunday Salsa Social.
Professional DJ: Antonio Quinn
When: This Sunday, September 8th from 7-10pm
Where: Go Dance Studio, 9029 Research Blvd., Corner of 183 & Burnet Colonnade Shopping Ctr., Same Ctr. as Black Eyed Pea
More Info below:
All of us in the salsa community have been searching for the perfect place & time to quench our undying thirst for salsa dancing. This Salsa Social is for the salsa music lover, the salsa dancer of every level, the salsa instructor, the salsa performer etc.. etc.. We have all been sharing our opinions about what the salsa dance scene lacks, whether it be good music, a good dance floor, good camaraderie, good attitudes, or good dance etiquette etc.. Now is your chance to make it happen. It is as simple as showing up, with your most comfortable dance shoes, ready to dance till your feet hurt. See below for more details.
Hope to see you here,
Taletha & Mylie
If anyone in the community is interested in doing a short performance for one of the future salsa socials please contact me at 512-339-9391.
SUNDAY SALSA SOCIAL
September 8th 7:00pm-10:00pm
Are you ready for some hardcore salsa dancing?!?!
Break out your most comfortable dance shoes and come participate in this once-a-month SALSA DANCE. It doesn't matter what style of salsa dancing you do, what dance studio you are affiliated with, or how many moves you know.
Just show up to have a good time and DANCE!
Catering to Salsa Dance Fanatics!!
$5.00 per person at the door. Professional DJ on site for your enjoyment.
Casual attire! Great Dance Floor! Its all about the dancing!
Salseros, can you say WOW!!! ? I expect all 160+ people in attendance to send their feedback =) That s how a salsa night should be! Great people, greatMessage 1 of 10 , Sep 8, 2002View SourceSalseros, can you say "WOW!!!" ? I expect all 160+ people in attendance to send their feedback =) That's how a salsa night should be! Great people, great music, and great dancing! I think i danced the entire night except 1 song =)
just a salsero!
From: etienne beney Thank you so much Taletha for the organisation of that amazing evening! I never danced so much and really had a blast,Message 1 of 10 , Sep 9, 2002View SourceFrom: etienne beney <beney_99@...>
Thank you so much Taletha for the organisation of that amazing evening! I never danced so much and really had a blast, it was really great to dance with so many awsome dancers. I couldn't believe to see so many people dancing at the same time and still having plenty of room to do all the moves you want! Thanks so much again, this is the very first time I want to dance that much.
From: "Ruth Aguirre" <klarin8@...>
I debated going home to San Antonio early or staying a little longer for the social. I'm really glad I stayed in Austin to dance. I had a great time, and met a lot of really cool and friendly people. I'm really enjoying the Austin salsa scene. Thanks to all who helped put this event together.
Ruth in SA
What an incredible night. Thank you all who coordinated the event. The music,dancing and energy was terrific. Hope we can keep this going and maybe do it every other week instead of just once a month. I take my hat off to Antonio-- his DJing was wonderful and kept everyone moving non-stop. My lungs also thank the smoke-free environment. My only suggestion is that we needed more refreshments. Can't wait for the next one. It was a great change from Miguel's.
From: "Sandra Moro Sleeper" <smoro@...>
Had a great time. I'm glad I was able to make it. Antonio did a great job. I don't think Taletha realized that there would be that many people in attendance... the studio was a little warm... a lot of SWEATY dancers! Next time, please make it a little cooler! Thanks!
Sandra Moro Sleeper
From: Dennis Hicks For me this was the best night of salsa dancing I ve ever had! I really loved how many great dancers there were, theMessage 1 of 10 , Sep 9, 2002View SourceFrom: "Dennis Hicks" <dionysis@...>
For me this was the best night of salsa dancing I've ever had! I really loved how many great dancers there were, the absence of smoke, drunks, potholes & cement, pick up artists and how guarded that makes people... Thanks to all who attended! Thanks Taletha and Antonio! Awesome, awesome, awesome. I do think lots of ice cold bottled water would have been wonderful, and if it would be possible to make it cooler? Maybe some big fans in the corners as well?
I really liked the birthday dances. At the swing dances they just have one big circle and all the birthday celebrants dance in the middle of that circle together. I like it better that way because you can watch all the action at once.
From: theresa domingues <tldr@...>
Two thumbs up for the social on Sun. night. Great turn out and DJ music by Antonio, smoke-free environment, and a beautiful WOOD dance floor (unlike the one we keep getting promised at Miguel's!). I wasn't in the mood to come out, but I decided to come out anyway and it helped me to dance my cares away! Many thanks and kudos. I hope this event continues.
From: email@example.com I agree with everything that was said about Friday Night Labor Day Event at Miguel s except I want to know why there was no refund orMessage 1 of 10 , Sep 27, 2002View SourceFrom: fauxgirl50@...
I agree with everything that was said about Friday Night Labor Day Event at Miguel's except I want to know why there was no refund or apology to anyone for the fact that there was just 2 bands and why people at 1:00 in the morning were being asked to pay $30.00 when clearly they already knew that there was only going to be 2 bands performing or should we say 1 band and the other with there recorded music. It was clearly a nightmare there and too many people who questioned what was going on were treated very rudely. It does seem to be true that no one cared that people were being ripped off.
From: "Thea Bordelon" <thea_rene@...>
Ok, I've got to respond to the Labor Day Crises one last time. I've been in the restaurant business off and on (mostly on) for 18 years since I got my first job in high school. It's how I put myself through school etc and I feel like I know practically everything there is to know. It's really stressful. I felt shafted, definitely, over the $30 thing. But the reality is that I don't know Miguel and therefore I'd hope that I wouldn't talk ANYONE down until I PERSONALLY hear the whole story from the person's mouth. I hate rumors and so I won't participate in that part. On the other hand I truly believe that some bad sh_t's gonna happen if you sow BAD SALSA-KARMA!!! ( Oooooh, doesn't that sound ominous?) So with that it will all come out in the wash. I ended up having a great time that night despite being irritated. It was hard to stay pissed because it wasn't the band or the place that cheered me. It was the dancers. So yeah, it was a bad business decision and it will reflect. What's made it worse is that there hasn't been any attempt at compensating the patrons now a month later. Now it's getting absurd. Some special thank you to the patrons has been in order and has been ignored. At the time, I'll give most screw ups a chance because I know that I don't know the whole story. I want the same consideration toward me. That's all talk and I am not a talker. If I don't like something I change it!! I don't talk until I know the whole story. Besides I'm not abandoning the salsa scene. It's too much fun! But we all know that something better will come along. SALSA-KARMA
Note from Moderator:
I'll let these be the last comments regarding this, unless Miguel cares to followup and continue the dialogue.
Thanx for everyone's participation in trying to make things better in the Austin Salsa scene. I think this type of dialogue is healthy because it allows all parties to express themselves and hopefully gain perspective on the situation.