> > > Victor M:
> > > Bilgewater! We see how atoms keep changing relationally
> > > throughout cosmic history.
> > Randy C:
> > NO! "WE" don't see any such thing.
> > Only YOU see these things.
> > Therefore Occam's Razor tells us that these things are
> > nothing but delusions that you suffer from.
> > Get professional help.
> Victor M:
> When you use a different first principle, your system
> of evidence changes.
No. The real first principle of science is that all
hypotheses must be testable and potentially falsifiable.
That's it. It says nothing about matter changing or not.
Any evidence is allowed.
> Michael Polanyi pointed out that the conceptual framework
> and the rules of reasoning are bequeathed to us by our
> culture. These rules restrict the range of our reasoning.
> They also enlarge our reasoning.
> 1. They are restrictive because we only know how to reason
> one way, the way we were trained.
Scientists are devising new ways of thinking, e.g. string
> 2. They enlarge our reasoning by providing logical
> procedures learned through the language and methods
> provided to by our education.
I have no idea what you just said. You seem to imply
that science is logical.
Yes it is. We know that because it is based on
mathematics. Mathematics is itself based on logic.
The system that you propose is NOT based on math.
Therefore your proposed system is ILLOGICAL.
> What idea is so powerful that it controls how western
> people reason? It is the very idea the Bible predicted
> for the mockers of the last days, the notion that all
> things remain the same.
Wrong, wrong, wrong.
There is NO SUCH PRINCIPLE!
If there was, people would HAVE to talk about it.
NO ONE talks about it. In fact NO ONE HAS EVER talked
Therefore it doesn't exist.
Instead it is nothing but a delusion of yours.
Get professional help.